#h1-discussion

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fading gazelle
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I would just say neither and upgrade Zag aspect dusa

tulip acorn
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Okay!

ebon sleet
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Does giving olympians nectar give you better rarities..? Or is there no point to nectars besides getting companions/favor.

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Does giving Charon nectar get you discounts..?

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I feel like I wasted all my nectars on Charon and his prices stayed the same

fading gazelle
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Giving nectar to most characters more than once is completely optional and only there for story purposes

serene breach
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I really don't like the gun. Feels like it does no damage and throws my tempo off

ebon sleet
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Ahhh

fading gazelle
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Chaos even says something of the sort

ebon sleet
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I don’t like reloading constantly it feels like I’m hitting speed bumps in my play. Like there’s an interruption to the flow

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I prefer the spear

sharp fossil
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I really don't like the gun. Feels like it does no damage and throws my tempo off
try zeus

fading gazelle
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Something along the lines of "You are aware that you will not recieve anything in return for these gifts."

ebon sleet
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Knock back + rupture on the gun got me to the final boss pretty easily

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But I’ll get to final boss every time with the spear

fading gazelle
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Lightning Strike on the rail is really solid

serene breach
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I got the frost attack, explode on stack, and hammer speed upgrade, and it does like no damage.

fading gazelle
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Just drop some Artemis or Athena on the dash and you're pretty much good to go

ebon sleet
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Special doom build with spear with the thing that hits 7 enemies and doom combo damage

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Just literally melts everything

tulip acorn
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Ya I got it, but is there anything I should look for for special? I can get aphro special or reduced melee dmg

serene breach
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The Y is like the mortar from bastion but not OP

ebon sleet
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It scales really high though

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Rocket launcher from the hammer makes it pretty good too

serene breach
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Having to stand stationary on some fights to shoot is killer

ebon sleet
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You stand still to mortar?

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I just tap Q

serene breach
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No, regular attack

ebon sleet
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Oh dash strike

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I’m literally spamming space bar and shooting and reloading and tapping Q all at once. Casting too. Getting carpal tunnel

fading gazelle
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just dash strike while shooting

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Try switching cast to "shift"

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and special to "right click"

sharp fossil
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you mean special to shift?

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oh yeah that works too

ebon sleet
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If I find any upgrade that lets me hold left mouse button I feel relief in my wrist muscles

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Regardless of weapon

sharp fossil
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Q is a baffling default for special, zero clue why they chose it

fading gazelle
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@sharp fossil I use mouse 5 as my cast but not everyone has a mouse with m5 or m4 squirtyay

novel trout
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agreed

serene breach
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Don't like the fists either but they force me to pay attention

ebon sleet
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Triple dash strike spear == I have to take a break and stretch out my forearms by the end of the escape attempt

sharp fossil
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yeah i use m4 as special

ebon sleet
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I don’t mind the Q

shrewd turtle
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I think we need Zagreus skins.

fading gazelle
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I agree

sharp fossil
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you can’t move properly while hitting Q

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i undervalued special builds so much until i remapped it

fading gazelle
ebon sleet
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I’m good with my ring finger

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Pinky even for Q

serene breach
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but it's fine, I like how the game incentivizes you to play a specific weapon per run

ebon sleet
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Doom builds are dope

sharp fossil
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well, if it works for you fair enough i guess

analog elbow
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p.s.
ty for the dislikes.
want to clarify: my concerns are related to game experience after 50+ runs. and also to people who have exp in other games like this one. for casuals ofc it looks perfect forever
@rotund canopy I have 600 escape attempts in the game so I would say I have experience in the game, and the game is really fun. Sorry you don't feel the same tho and find the game boring after 50. Not sure what could be done since this is more of a subjective issue.

serene breach
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One thing that I don't understand though is how easy it is to purge a boon by mistake

ebon sleet
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600 escape attempts? I’m at like 30

serene breach
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done it a handful of times when I meant to touch the well instead

ebon sleet
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Oh man that sucks hahaha

raven horizon
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I’d like to see an evolving Zagreus tbh

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But that’d be a LOT of work

brisk trail
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Damn. I totally feel you about the boon thingy

ebon sleet
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That’s never happened to me

raven horizon
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I.e, more Ares gear you pick up, more “ares looking” you become

serene breach
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I tend to go fast and I play on controller, so sometimes I'll pick the wrong thing.

ebon sleet
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Biggest troll for me is using the anvil accidentally and losing the 1 key upgrade that made your build good right before the final boss. And you get 2 useless upgrades instead 💩💩

serene breach
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not a fan of visual clutter. Probably one of my bigger problems with the gun honestly.

tulip acorn
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Any advice?
Zagreus rail:
Cluster bomb
Targeting system
Hazard bomb (I have heroic artemis special)

serene breach
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I guess Zagreus is so tiny compared to the rest of the screen because you need to pay attention to everything else

fresh wasp
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i find the game a bit too hard and i am a bit surprised because generally i am above average in terms of mechanical skills. like eg i can play cuphead. but it took me 29 goes to clear one time. and i cant do it comfortably again still. i had to have the hp regen boon and more athena deflect boons to fight the final boss. is there something I’m missing here 😦

brisk trail
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I really don't use the Rail Gun so I don't have any recommended builds

tulip acorn
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You just have to be in the right mindset I think. Constantly be looking around the screen and paying attention to everything. That's how I've ended up clearing it (and I still can't beat Cuphead XD)

ebon sleet
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The biggest thing to get clears it make sure your builds center around something. Don’t try to get a good cast and good special and good attack, get boons that make 1 thing super good

serene breach
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Took me about 8 runs? I play too aggressive and I need to stop and pay attention. After that clearing has been difficult.

analog elbow
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That sounds about right in regards to the number of attempts to escape for the first time @fresh wasp

tulip acorn
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I took about 15 runs I think? Then cleared twice more in next 10

analog elbow
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I'd say it's average

tulip acorn
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If you can get good builds, it makes it much easier

serene breach
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Some bosses feel they have too much HP, or HP scales, or my damage/technique sucks.

fair dove
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Took me 19

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Last boss is way too hard for me

ebon sleet
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If by the temple of Styx your main attack doesn’t just melt every rat and enemy on the screen and you’re going through the chambers easily, I think you messed your build up

fair dove
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Sooooo much resources and I BARELY got by

fading gazelle
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@serene breach Which ones?

raven horizon
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I was so close to beating the last boss today, and I got double whammied at the last second NGNLaqua_cry

serene breach
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3rd floor boss is always a stickler for me. On some runs it feels like it has no HP, on other runs, it feels like it has too much HP. Stuff goes south fast if you lose your tempo.

fair dove
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That’s the way it’s meant to be played I guess

fading gazelle
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Elysium is always a vibe check for most runs

fresh wasp
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i cant even possibly imagine how other people manage it without more meta-upgrades or using god mode

serene breach
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4th floor boss feels easier to me even if my build is bad.

fair dove
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Elysium is always a vibe check for most runs
@fading gazelle Elysium is such an increase in difficulty it’s insane

sharp fossil
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yeah runs don’t actually start until you’re out of asphodel imho

fair dove
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I can melt the hydra but get ass kicked in Elysium

sharp fossil
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that’s where you actually have to put your build to work

fading gazelle
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Wait hold up

ebon sleet
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Biggest life hack for the bull and champion is to dash through the red pillar when the bull leaps or runs for you

fading gazelle
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Does the bot not recognize that word?

ebon sleet
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He runs into the pillar

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Also you can deflect the dude’s spear attacks

fading gazelle
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Cause the heroes can be killed within 5 seconds

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It is very much possible

sharp fossil
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Cause the heroes can be killed within 5 seconds
@fading gazelle lol with a very specific build featuring a million dash strike chaos boons

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not happening most runs

fading gazelle
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Sub 15s is very possible

sharp fossil
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yeah

ebon sleet
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With deflect I can kill fury sisters in like 15 seconds

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As soon as they do that thing where she stands still just do a deflect and she crumbles

fading gazelle
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I get sub 15 on heroes pretty consistently on high heat

fresh wasp
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@analog elbow does the game offer more character upgrades after first clear? if beating the game once is this hard and not quite repeatable, how are there so many people beating high heat runs?

sharp fossil
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it is certainly possible to absolutely wreck those guys if stuff lines up, you’re right

fading gazelle
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I mean define "line up"

ebon sleet
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Magma snake is easy with aoe range too. If I have a melee build I struggle on the snake

fair dove
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@analog elbow does the game offer more character upgrades after first clear? if once is this hard and not repeatable how are there so many people beating high heat runs?
@fresh wasp meta progression, upgrading aspects

fading gazelle
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That's what you'd be building for anyways

fair dove
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And also ur skills get better of course @fresh wasp

fading gazelle
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You should have your build ready by Elysium

sharp fossil
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I get sub 15 on heroes pretty consistently on high heat
@fading gazelle okay teach me your ways

analog elbow
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@fresh wasp the more you play the more unlocks you get and the more experience you have, so you know what works well. Good runs heavily rely on experience and good synergies.

fair dove
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^

sharp fossil
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i’m pretty sure i’ve done sub 15 like once?

thick ledge
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@fresh wasp i'd also argue that once you beat your first run it starts getting much easier to replicate

ebon sleet
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Talents very important too

serene breach
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I feel like the game is similar to isaac in the sense that the more you learn the rules of the game, the more consistent you get.

fair dove
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After first run u get 3rd DD

thick ledge
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^^

fair dove
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which is huge

fresh wasp
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@fair dove apart from mirror and the weapon upgrades next to skelly are there new upgrades?

fair dove
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@fair dove apart from mirror and the weapon upgrades next to skelly are there new upgrades?
@fresh wasp I don’t think so

analog elbow
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The unlocks from the contractor also help a lot, like the healing fountains

fair dove
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The game can’t have too much upgrades or else would be too easy and complicated

ebon sleet
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Starting game with 100 hp instead of 50, getting 3 health per chamber, +50% damage on enemies that have been casted on, etc

serene breach
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the contractor is fairly significant

thick ledge
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contractor benifits

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are really nice

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i have them all finally

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and yea they help the run a bunch

fading gazelle
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@sharp fossil It's called practicing dusa

ebon sleet
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I put off contractor stuff until recently I didn’t realize they were important so I ignored gems

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Haha

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I thought it was all cosmetic

serene breach
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Just slow down and pay attention to what enemies do. If you just spam dash and attack like a friend of mine does, you're gonna have a bad time

ebon sleet
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If you’re good spamming dash and attack actually works well though lol

fading gazelle
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I think I started getting better when I realized that dash-attacking doesn't give you i-frames

thick ledge
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if you want me honest answer though, you can beat the game with 0 heat with 1DD and a bit more hp

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its not easy obviously

fading gazelle
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You can beat the game on the first try

sharp fossil
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@sharp fossil It's called practicing dusa
@fading gazelle oh no 😱

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having to put effort into things is my one weakness

fresh wasp
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thats okay then im just baffled by how many people managed to “eventually” beat it and got high heat runs mostly be getting good. like i feel like that level from what it looks like should be top 1% players @fair dove @analog elbow ill play some more later on

thick ledge
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but once you have strategies to deal with the areas you can do it

ebon sleet
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Dash sturdy + move speed + double dash + damage for dash attacks + crit + crit boons

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Spam away

thick ledge
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and yea you absolutely can beat the game on the first try, only thing making it hard is some of the boons are impossible to get

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i dont think dadelus hammer buffs can show up on the first run

serene breach
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I play games for fun. I've played too many mmos where people obsess about being "top 1%" to an unhealthy degree

ebon sleet
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Also that thing where when you dash it leaves spinning blades behind is OP AF from dash spamming in melee range

fresh wasp
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unless many people actually use god mode then that would explain why

fading gazelle
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A lot of peeps use god mode

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And that's okay dusa

ebon sleet
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Just find out which combinations of boons works for you and aim for those ones on the next run

thick ledge
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thats true

analog elbow
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@fresh wasp don't worry about high heat clears. That comes later down the road when you've gained more game knowledge and have all the unlocks. even the heat is only there to have you play at a difficulty you're comfortable with, there's nothing wrong with finding the base game difficult. It's a damn hard game right from the start.

thick ledge
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but I haven't used it

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also fwiw

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heat runs dont make the game substantially harder right away

serene breach
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I can do heroes fairly consistently now, it's just the gun in particular throws me off so hard in that fight and I can't quite explain why

terse geyser
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You can beat the game on the first try
@fading gazelle I've done that 🤔

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it's pretty hard

potent carbon
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I just had a gun run with triple rockets, two special chaos boons and aphrodite special with swift surrender

fading gazelle
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it's fun

thick ledge
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i wanna try doing that

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after i get the epilogue

supple field
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my first escape with coronacht i had a bunch of poseidon boons where i ended up just spamming spacebar after elysium and only clicked mouse 1 a couple of times in styx, then only pulled out the bow for the final boss

potent carbon
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one barrage was like 1k damage, I feel bad for minotaur

ebon sleet
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A surprisingly important upgrade for gun is the one that increases speed/accuracy and gives you some extra ammo. Can’t remember what it’s called

serene breach
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I had that

potent carbon
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yea my first with exagryph

raven horizon
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Meanwhile I’m over here hitting like.. 200 damage derp

serene breach
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The damage is still pretty bad

ebon sleet
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Also I aim for Poseidon with the fun

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Gun*

potent carbon
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I was gonna go with an attack build and my first hammer was triple special and I'm like you know what, let's go with that

deft spear
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when I realized that dash-attacking doesn't give you i-frames
Wait, does normal dash?

tulip acorn
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Is it worth upgrading pressure points or lightning strike on railgun?

fading gazelle
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Normal dash give you i-frames

ebon sleet
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Knock back from attack and rupture damage on knockback and knockback bonus against bosses

potent carbon
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I was basically praying for rocket all the way to elysium

fading gazelle
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@tulip acorn What level is each of them at?

serene breach
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But then again it was my first time playing the gun, and I don't think I played/built it correctly.

tulip acorn
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2->3

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Or clean kill 1-2

fading gazelle
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Pressure points then

tulip acorn
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Okay

raven horizon
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I thought I was gonna become doom guy with the gun and got quickly shut down

ebon sleet
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Only weapon I havent tried yet is the shield

raven horizon
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They should’ve given me a shovel instead

ebon sleet
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I unlocked it but didn’t try it

tulip acorn
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U should it's fun af XD

fading gazelle
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Lightning strike just needs 3 levels

deft spear
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Okay, so if you dash-attack you don't get the usual dodge that regular dashing gives you.

fading gazelle
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Yes

ebon sleet
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Wow I didn’t know that

serene breach
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pressure points is good? That's like the one thing I would put at the very bottom of my list

deft spear
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Thanks, I didn't catch that at all.

fading gazelle
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Pressure points is amazing because it allows anything to crit

serene breach
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but it's like 2% on the normal boon

crystal cargo
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Am I correct that some Cast abilities won't lodge the Diamond cast into enemies thus making you not deal bonus damage?

fading gazelle
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This includes hangover, jolted, chill, etc

rotund canopy
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@rotund canopy I have 600 escape attempts in the game so I would say I have experience in the game. Sorry you don't feel the same tho and find the game boring after 50.
@analog elbow nice one, really. When I had around 20 attempts and pact of punishment was introduced, I remember that I escaped with 50+ heat level (trying maximum i could) and it was kinda easy if you follow some patterns. But it was not so interesting, because you have to evade everything you could by clicking space button. I tried more combinations of boons/weapons and etc and the game was completely over for me at that time.
I understand you and a lot of people who think differently, I play WoW and there are mythic+ dungeons and people find them really interesting after almost one and half a year playing though they are the same. But gameplay there is more interesting and every dungeon has some strategies to complete them in time, also they have cool affixes which change every week, so you have to adjust your strategy. Also a big point they have 10+ dungeons not 4 (ONLY 4) levels with dummy bosses (really, i tell you chambers in Hades are harder to pass).
Also I get that Supergiant team makes money and around 2-5% players want new challenges and new exp. others are casuals mostly.
Still the game is SUPER and i like it so much as I play it sometimes but still dont find it interesting to escape with every weapon at highest heat level. It is because gameplay is very the same.

ebon sleet
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Also does anyone upgrade dash strikes? I usually just get a level 1 dash boon and never upgrade it

fading gazelle
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things that usually dont crit

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HOLY HELL

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JESUS

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WHERE DID THAT COME FROM

fallen violet
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Trash run again boys

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can I do this

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Probably not

tulip acorn
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Just went to Eurydice and she upgraded pressure points to Heroic XD

brisk trail
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Hades is probably making bank now from this video lol

serene breach
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it's my moist boi

ebon sleet
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Does upgrading dash strike do anything besides just giving you a couple extra dps

fading gazelle
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@rotund canopy Hold on

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Did you just say 50+ was easy?

serene breach
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I joined this discord when it was first sent out in a newsletter, and I left when Hades became bigger because I didn't want to get spoiled.

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Waiting was the right decision

analog elbow
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@rotund canopy it's just the nature of rogulikes/lites, not sure what they can do about it besides adding alternate bosses/biomes, but that's out of the question at this point afaik

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Have you tried extreme measures and benefits package from the pact?

serene breach
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I hate extreme measures. One character taunted me to not use extreme measures so I did it anyway and I groaned.

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It was good advice

rotund canopy
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@rotund canopy Hold on
@fading gazelle sure i died a few times, but it is just a matter of time (a 8+ hours maybe) and you get it

raven horizon
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Is hades connected to any of supergiants other games?

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If not, a prequel story could be a good thing for add-on content Eyes

sharp fossil
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i refuse to believe you beat 50 heat in 20 attempts
if that’s true i’m way worse at this game than i thought, and i think i’m pretty bad

serene breach
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Other than having a lot of memes from other games, not really?

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As in

terse geyser
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i refuse to believe you beat 50 heat in 20 attempts
if that’s true i’m way worse at this game than i thought, and i think i’m pretty bad
that doesn't even make sense

serene breach
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A lot of the weapons feel like stuff from bastion/transistor

rotund canopy
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Have you tried extreme measures and benefits package from the pact?
@analog elbow It will be hard. I will spend a lot of time because of one shots from foes but I doubt it will be interesting to surpass

tulip acorn
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Is hunters mark good?

fading gazelle
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To do that in about a few hours in though seems absurd. It took me a lot of routing to get my first 50+ heat and I still had to use routing for a while until I started getting it consistently

terse geyser
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that would mean they're good, not that you're bad

fading gazelle
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Is hunters mark good?
@tulip acorn decent

tulip acorn
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I can go hide breaker or hunters mark rare

analog elbow
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Those two options don't enable one shots, they add variety to bosses and regular encounters

sharp fossil
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that would mean they're good, not that you're bad
@terse geyser i mean yeah but i’d be worse by comparison

fading gazelle
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hide breaker

tulip acorn
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Prob go with hide breaker tho

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Ya

sharp fossil
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made sense in my head

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also why are you in disguise as haelian

terse geyser
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It's not a disguise per se
this particular picture honestly looks almost exactly like me

rotund canopy
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i refuse to believe you beat 50 heat in 20 attempts
if that’s true i’m way worse at this game than i thought, and i think i’m pretty bad
@sharp fossil that is why a lot of people disagree with me, but imagine they are people who escaped after 8 hours playing the game. if you had a BIG experience in gaming = lots of games relied on reaction (like this one) become easier for you

sharp fossil
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i mean, you said you did it when heat was introduced

rotund canopy
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yes

sharp fossil
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50+ heat didn’t even exist then

analog elbow
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The heat system came a long way since then

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50 heat was nothing back then

rotund canopy
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maybe

analog elbow
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50 heat is close to max now

sharp fossil
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It's not a disguise per se
this particular picture honestly looks almost exactly like me
@terse geyser lol fair enough

serene breach
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Yea I beat my first attempt pretty fast, but I've played a lot of other roguelikes like isaac and enter the gungeon.

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I play a lot of bullet hell games like touhou

rotund canopy
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what is the point to escape when any damage would one shot you?

sharp fossil
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surprise twist: haelian was in disguise as you the whole time

rotund canopy
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just for instance

analog elbow
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Nothing one shots you man if you don't enable that feature

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The whole point of the pact is to tune the difficulty to your liking

serene breach
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in what situations are fists good?

fading gazelle
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Every
dusa

rotund canopy
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yes, but do you find interesting to escape if any damae would oneshot you?

serene breach
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I can kind of figure the gun even if I don't like it, but fists are the one weapon that makes me ???

terse geyser
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that would be an interesting challenge for sure

rotund canopy
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I find pact mechanics not so great

terse geyser
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1hp run...

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I'd do that

sharp fossil
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there’s no heat option for a no hit run

analog elbow
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That's a very subjective issue to have, I'm sorry you dislike that system

sharp fossil
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if there was i’d try it for sure

terse geyser
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nope

serene breach
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I really like the heat system

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It's like the idols from Bastion and limiters from Transistor, except with an actual reward system and far more customization.

analog elbow
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I can't help with personal tastes unfortunately lol

rotund canopy
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That's a very subjective issue to have, I'm sorry you dislike that system
@analog elbow agree.

raven horizon
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So is heat more than just a difficulty modifier?

analog elbow
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Yes

raven horizon
rotund canopy
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But it became better for sure since was introduced

tulip acorn
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I have cluster and zeus attack, what hammer should I get?
Targeting system (also have artemis special)
Spread fire
Seeking fire

serene breach
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I like how you can customize it, how many options there are, how you can have varying levels of one setting

rotund canopy
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could be great to have more chambers/unique foes/boss mechanics , also I would be happy to see 5th level and the game could be much better

tulip acorn
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It makes it more versatile than any roguelite I've ever played. Its incredible

rotund canopy
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I remember hydra before it spawned foes during the fight

potent carbon
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am I the only one addicted to cosmic egg

supple field
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you're asking for a major update which the devs have said they have no plans for that

terse geyser
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EgG

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the egg is nice

analog elbow
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There are 24 aspects and I don’t know how many hammers which change play style, if that’s not variety I don’t know what is

potent carbon
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also, how do I make malphon work

tulip acorn
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Zeus attack and static discharge

potent carbon
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cus the damage doesn't seem worth the risk of hugging minotaur/final boss

terse geyser
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also boons can 100% change your playstyle

tulip acorn
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And mix with long knucle if u can

sharp fossil
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not using boons can also change your playstyle

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so basically we got playstyles changing left and right

potent carbon
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I think the big game changer is if you get a good cast and hermes' fast dislodge early

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you basically become a cast build

terse geyser
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you know what will not just change, but objectively improve your playstyle?

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using gued control setups

rotund canopy
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lots of things can change the escape experience but the foes and bosses will be the same.

potent carbon
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whats that

raven horizon
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giving all your love and affection to Dusa?

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Oh

ebon sleet
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Dusa is a thot

sharp fossil
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yes indeed

ebon sleet
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Meg is the one true hoe

sharp fossil
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controller and keyboard ftw

ebon sleet
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Bro what are you doing

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Lmao

potent carbon
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pog

queen frigate
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For the hidden aspects, what am I looking for? Will it be a random gold dot on the floor while I’m wielding the weapon?

fading gazelle
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Oh yeah I've been doing that for a while now

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Its actually pretty great

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Like no jokes

fair dove
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For the hidden aspects, what am I looking for? Will it be a random gold dot on the floor while I’m wielding the weapon?
@queen frigate #h1-story-discussion

fading gazelle
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It works

gilded basalt
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???

ebon sleet
#

It doesn’t look fun at all

raven horizon
#

Meanwhile I’m over here basically using aimhax on switch

fading gazelle
#

It works

raven horizon
#

Their auto targeting is super generous derp

queen frigate
#

Well I don’t want spoilers. I want to know if I’m looking for a dot or if I have to talk to someone.

potent carbon
#

@queen frigate check out the pin in that channel

ebon sleet
#

For what flyinx

potent carbon
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it's not big spoilers

sharp fossil
#

oh wait! a better control scheme: controller and mouse, but you control movement with the mouse and aim with the controller

jade kindle
#

Hael and other mk + controller are superhuman beings

potent carbon
#

just tells you who to talk to and what to do

sharp fossil
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it’s optimal cursed

queen frigate
#

Alright. Thank you @potent carbon

terse geyser
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haelian doesn't use controller + mouse thanthink

sharp fossil
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they were confused by your disguise i think

terse geyser
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he's a lame boi and uses straight-up controller

raven horizon
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Jokes on you, I play using HTC Vive and full body tracking dusa

teal agate
#

dance pad or bust

sharp fossil
#

omg hades crypt of the necrodancer crossover when

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look, i mean, Cadence of Hyrule happened...

raven horizon
#

“Zagreus goes to the Ball” DLC when? I want my Night at the Roxbury spin-off

rotund canopy
#

There are 24 aspects and I don’t know how many hammers which change play style, if that’s not variety I don’t know what is
@analog elbow just dont feel interesting to try so many variations when everything would be the same. though i tried a lot of them and they ARE really funny and enjoyable to try. It is like to use different weapons and beat the dummy with them. you have tools but for the same lock. tools are needed for different situations.

real narwhal
#

got a random question thanthink

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is hades environment 2d, and the models 3d?

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my mind is confused

terse geyser
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models are 2d

real narwhal
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really?

terse geyser
#

everything is sprite animation

raven horizon
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2D Has come a long way, easiest way to figure it out is look at the dimensions

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Zag only ever faces up down / left right, so he is 2D derp

real narwhal
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i swear i remember seeing some behind the scenes stuff and i thought it was 2d

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damn

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i just thought because of the lighting and shadows that they would go in 3d 🤔

terse geyser
#

everything in the game is 2d
which is why they can't give Zag different skins

raven horizon
#

3D would add in the extra axis of front / back and up and down

brisk trail
#

wuz good

junior galleon
#

Isn't this game 2.5D?

brisk trail
#

game is HELLA fun btw

junior galleon
#

Made like 2D but it looks like 3D

maiden mulch
#

Zag's sprite has some ridiculously huge number of frames, I don't remember exactly how many

real narwhal
#

hmmm i googled

brisk trail
#

Every time someone brings up 2.5D

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I think of the GBA

real narwhal
#

there was an old answer from greg

brisk trail
#

I swear I saw a ton of those on that system

real narwhal
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" During development, we 3D render and animate many of our characters, such as the player character Zagreus. We then generate thousands upon thousands of frames of rendered animation from many different angles, which is what you end up seeing in the game"

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so its like 3d.... but not really

junior galleon
#

Ay so 3D became 2D then

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Makes sense

raven horizon
#

That’s how 2D has evolved, it’s really cool lol

junior galleon
#

Kinda like videogames hire real actors to play out scenes and the use that to make the ingame characters

sharp fossil
#

that’s something like what they did with dead cells iirc

brisk trail
real narwhal
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also reminds me of dragon ball fightrez, i mean completely different use, but still using 3D in a really cool way to give a 2d feel

jade crescent
#

If I used a [first boon is from zeus] then swap to the [first boon from Poseidon] keepsakes, would the Poseidon one work, or is that confirmed boon type used up

raven horizon
#

It would have a little warning at the bottom of the tile if it would replace it

unique parrot
#

is there no way to get a guaranteed hermes boon like with other gods?

raven horizon
#

Generally “attack effect” will replace another “attack effect” unless certain circumstances are met

jade crescent
#

nah he's got a dodge thing instead

sharp fossil
#

you mean switching between zones? yeah, if you run zeus in tartarus then switch to poseidon in asphodel your first boon in the new biome will be from poseidon

jade crescent
#

awesome thanks

brisk trail
#

@unique parrot Rerolling like 10 times probably

raven horizon
#

Oh, I totally misunderstood that question. Sorry! dusa

sharp fossil
#

i swear i get both hermes boons on the majority of my runs

#

so not sure a guarantee would be needed

jade crescent
#

you guys prefer anything specific from eurydice?

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I'm not too sure how to value the boon upgrades/rarities

kind moss
#

usually I like the first if I have a good build going

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the third if I haven't really picked up all my parts yet

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I only really pick the second if I have a really large amount of boons and don't want to risk rng picking bad upgrades

hybrid citrus
#

I was wondering if there were any standalone image files of the cute charms that go on your keepsakes when you reach max bond with the characters. Anyone know? ^^

brisk trail
#

Is Bad Call achievement broken?

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I got a trial and I used Demeter call on Demeter challenge

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and I didn't get the achievement

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or does it have to be fully charged with 4 charges?

tulip acorn
#

Okay, I'm at 8 hp with 2 revives, but I have 2 more tunnels to go through. Should I stop and just spend money at the shop?

jade crescent
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just exit the room CEO

kind moss
#

fully charged

brisk trail
#

I did, but nothing

kind moss
#

greater call

jade crescent
#

ah yeah, fully charged as well

brisk trail
#

How do I stack a fully charged call in a trial lol

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Unless it's Elysium and I let them respawn for 10 minutes

jade crescent
#

I did it in elysium, just keep farming respawns

kind moss
#

easier in like, elysium trials

jade crescent
#

otherwise you would need some strong call charging boons

kind moss
#

you don't even really need to let them respawn always

brisk trail
#

So I have to fully build call charge build with like Hermes or something or just hope for getting a call boon and that same boon trial in Elysium

tulip acorn
#

Does storm lightning work on bosses?

fading gazelle
#

Yes

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Dusa is a thot
@ebon sleet Also

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How dare

ebon sleet
#

Meg is better

tulip acorn
#

Hmm okay, so I can go for storm lightning lvl 3 (10 bolts) or 22 dmg lightning attack, using rail gun with spreadshot

terse geyser
#

@ebon sleet heresy

brisk trail
#

Game just got a glowing review on Charlie's Moist Meter lol

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I forgot he's into roguelites now

fading gazelle
#

Artemis is best girl but how dare you speak such heresy about Dusa

hybrid citrus
#

Hades is best girl.

fading gazelle
#

...

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Fair...

hybrid citrus
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Oh btw I was looking for images of those cute charm heads like your pic. Where'd you find it? 😮

jade crescent
#

aphrodite though 😳

slender monolith
#

amazing

fading gazelle
#

@narrow hemlock has gotten most of them so you can ask them (sorry for the ping tatz)

narrow hemlock
#

I linked that earlier in spoilers and a little while later kam dm'd me that video and said it was me 😭

hybrid citrus
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I'll look for it! ^^ Thanks.

narrow hemlock
#

oh I was talking about that vid link lmao

slender monolith
#

the tweet right

narrow hemlock
#

I actually had to scroll up and see what I was pinged for

fading gazelle
#

To be fair Tatz that'd totally be you

potent carbon
#

From Eurydice if I have few boons I’d want an epic boon upgraded to heroic

#

Can really make your run if it hits right

narrow hemlock
#

I am holding hands with 4 different ares as we speak

brisk trail
#

Shockingly little Nyx love going around, she's one of my favorite characters

terse geyser
#

there is nyx love

fading gazelle
#

Nyx is loved very much in this community squirtnya

supple field
#

achilles is my babe

terse geyser
#

it's just really quiet atm

fading gazelle
#

ikr

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It's so calm

tulip acorn
#

Any, another completion

fading gazelle
#

Nice

tulip acorn
#

More fun when you dont use weapon for their intended purpose

#

Railgun is so fun as a melee weapon

brisk trail
#

I also really love the design of Chaos. Coolest character design in the entire game

sharp fossil
#

there’s loads of nyx love
you just can’t see it
it’s too dark

fading gazelle
#

@novel wasp can you whip out cursed Chaos again?

ebon sleet
#

chaos is actually awesome

narrow hemlock
jade crescent
#

nyx GWcmeisterPeepoLove

sharp fossil
#

I also really love the design of Chaos. Coolest character design in the entire game
@brisk trail coolest character design in any game change my mind

ebon sleet
#

chaos reminds me of that creepy claymation cartoon of the mark twain unfinished work. mysterious stranger i think it was called

brisk trail
#

Chaos looks like the final boss of a JRPG, yet you just casually talk to him and take his boons

hybrid parcel
#

is that... is that bing

ebon sleet
brisk trail
#

Oh yeah, that weird thing

#

Very similar, actually. Chaos is just sexier

ebon sleet
#

the voice and all

brisk trail
#

Yeah the voice is like...identical lol

digital tree
#

Is there anywhere that I can find the conditions for the different victory screen "taglines" or whatever you call them? I just got "Perfect Clear," but I'm not sure what it means, since I definitely took damage. In fact I took a lot of damage intentionally in one encounter to get my call to charge up since I'm trying to get the "Bad Call" achievement. I'm wondering if it just means that I no-hit the final boss, because I know I did do that.

fading gazelle
#

It's on wiki squirtnya

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I think

brisk trail
#

Also I really love the way Chaos's boons work. Usually I shy away from double edged sword-type upgrades in these kinda games, but in Hades, they're a temporary handicap that lead to a good permabuff

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Which is just 10/10 in design

digital tree
#

I just searched there. Nothing about them, as far as I can tell.

ebon sleet
#

i maxed out chaos's item boon as soon as i got it

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still though even with 40% rarity i only sometimes get a rare boon

digital tree
#

Nevermind, I found them. They're listed under "run clear messages." I was searching for "victory."

tulip acorn
#

What us ambrosia for?

jade crescent
#

give it to your frineds

fading gazelle
#

To make bffs

serene breach
#

I always take the risk

tulip acorn
#

Ah ok. Any ppl I should bff first? Is there a benefit?

fading gazelle
#

Also you can use them to upgrade your ||legendary keepsakes||

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Yes

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The spoiler is the benefit

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Don't open it

junior galleon
#

Is the chaos keepsake good?

fading gazelle
#

Yes

junior galleon
#

Like I tried a run with the egg and got not a single chaos door

jade crescent
#

||skelly than meg dusa achilles and sysiphis|| are who you want i believe

ebon sleet
#

what ive been doing is chaos keepsake until i get 1 chaos gate, then i switch to the +150 coin purse thing, then i switch to a 3rd one at elysium

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you can switch to the +150 coin purse and get 150 coins after 1st boss

#

then switch again after 2nd

fading gazelle
#

@tulip acorn If I suggest people to start off with, Meg, Than and Dusa are nice people squirtnya

ebon sleet
#

or after 2nd and again at 3rd

junior galleon
#

I tried going for the egg porphecie

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|| spoiler test||

hybrid parcel
#

do gods' keepsakes work if I retain them between chambers? Like if I start my run with the owl pendant, and then keep it for asphodel, does it affect the first boon I find there too?

fading gazelle
#

No

#

It only has one charge

opaque bough
#

As far as I can tell they don't linger

hybrid parcel
#

I was afraid of that

opaque bough
#

same for stuff like Hermes boon, you don't keep the dodge (iirc)

fading gazelle
#

They don't refresh in the transistion rooms

ebon sleet
#

yeah those keepsakes i switch to for a 3rd time

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i do chaos -> coin purse -> then the 3rd one is whatever i need next

junior galleon
#

In the new update you also get something for|| maxing out your friends:|| || a small icon on the keepsake you gained+message ||

ebon sleet
#

if i need an artemis boon for example in elysium i get a free one

hybrid parcel
#

I still don't have Athena's legendary boon and I am going to go bonkers trying to find it just the once

jade crescent
#

hermes and than boons stay the entire run

opaque bough
#

ty for correcting

ebon sleet
#

what do you mean @jade crescent ?

fading gazelle
#

Than boons?

#

Chotto matte

#

Huh?

jade crescent
#

every time you complete the objective, you get a small bonus percent that remains the entire run

opaque bough
#

if it's true at least, lots of unsure answers being thrown around

hybrid parcel
#

oh yeah it's true that the butterfly and the plume are retained

jade crescent
#

or sorry, keepsakes*

fading gazelle
#

Ah

hybrid parcel
#

I was able to observe that

junior galleon
#

Ohh that's sweet

fading gazelle
#

I see shadeembarassed

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My bad

ebon sleet
#

hermes keepsake stays even after you change keepsakes...?

#

huh

hybrid parcel
#

oh no!

#

no you have to keep it on

jade crescent
#

hermes does not have a boon type keepsake

junior galleon
hybrid parcel
#

but it doesn't reset between chambers

jade crescent
#

nah

#

there are achievements to stack hermes and than keepsakes to 20 and 30 respectively

ebon sleet
#

you know what i havent done yet

jade crescent
#

they can be pretty potent on the final boss

ebon sleet
#

i havent gotten the last tier of talents

#

for 30 keys

#

i bet they're good

hybrid parcel
#

oh they're good

opaque bough
#

btw I just got Ambrosia for the first time do I just trade it in or hold on to it

#

heckin tough fight that was

hybrid parcel
#

they make it so when you lose to hades he pats you on the head and says it was a good try

junior galleon
#

Give it to your friends^^

hybrid parcel
#

(that's a joke)

jade crescent
#

the patroclaus keepsake is so good

opaque bough
#

I got no friends friend-y enough to give ambrosia to yet :<

supple field
#

the broken spearpoint is the only keepsake i use lmao

jade crescent
#

you need a large amount of ambrosia to max out, might as well keep it

hybrid parcel
#

man said patroclaus

jade crescent
#

I think you need around 60?

fading gazelle
#

Hmm thanthink

#

Lemme calculate

hybrid parcel
#

patroclaus: comes down your chimney and mopes under your tree

opaque bough
#

"let's just tell them I ate the cookies..."

jade crescent
#

damn i want cookies now

#

haven't had home made food in so long GWsetmyxPeepoCry

hybrid parcel
#

don't worry he'll eventually leave jerky under your tree

raven horizon
#

I wish Hades got a fiery head when he got mad

ebon sleet
#

you know what i havent figured out

jade crescent
#

cyclopse jerky or hydra jerky?

serene breach
#

Wow my boy charlie gave hades 90.

raven horizon
#

So they could make Hercules references

serene breach
#

Riot

ebon sleet
#

can you deflect the final bosses skull throw things

#

boiling blood

fading gazelle
#

yes

queen hearth
#

Yes

jade crescent
#

yeah but it will still be on the ground

queen hearth
#

But it'll still turn into a bomb afterwards

ebon sleet
#

ah okay yeah

ancient frost
#

Guys I have serious trouble understanding steam trade cards haha

I have some cards that have, for example, 6/10 of the progress but have a (1) marked

Does that mean I have a complete card and another one ongoing? If so can I trade individually each ongoing unit?

ebon sleet
#

also Divine Dash, i grab it for the deflect on dash, but upgrading it takes damage from 12 to 14. is there ever a point to upgrading it?

#

like, i dont want it for the damage

#

does it increase the range or give more iframes

hybrid parcel
#

Arthur

#

there are 10 cards in a set

jade crescent
#

you need all 10 cards for the badge, if you have 2 of the same, you could trade 1 for one you don't have

hybrid parcel
#

6/10 means it's the 6th card in that set

#

(1) means you have 1 of it

queen hearth
#

@ebon sleet it only increases damage afaik

#

So it's not really worth it no

jade crescent
#

nah raignne

queen hearth
#

Unless you dash through enemies a lot?

jade crescent
#

good perk to have, but no need to upgrade

opaque bough
#

isn't Poseidon's dash also like really good

junior galleon
#

You can not gain all 10 cards for free

queen hearth
#

But even then there are better dash boons

junior galleon
#

You need to spend money to get the steam badge

supple field
#

poseidon's dash is my favorite

jade crescent
#

you can spark, but it's super rare to get a card pack

junior galleon
#

Extremely rare

jade crescent
#

and you can trade for the others

queen hearth
#

Divine dash gang

ancient frost
#

Oh thanks Sean, very helpful :D

junior galleon
#

I play on steam for years and got 1

jade crescent
#

for example, if I had a terraria card, I could trade it for a hades card from a friend

junior galleon
#

Like I just buy the cards

jade crescent
#

completely free

ebon sleet
#

i get deflect dash if i dont have a deflect, or the Weakness dash if i dont have a Weak

junior galleon
#

It's like 20 cents for a whole set

ebon sleet
#

the lightning dash is dumb IMO

junior galleon
#

Normally

hybrid parcel
#

I've gotten a few, but rarely for the games I want. I mostly just trade or sell the cards I don't want to buy cards I do

junior galleon
#

But yeah trading is also a good deal lol

queen hearth
#

I can't use zeus' dash for the life of me

jade crescent
#

I don't spec too much for weak, better to just not get hit in the first place

queen hearth
#

Everything else is good imo

ebon sleet
#

i stay away from Zeus builds in general because chain lightning is useless on the final boss

junior galleon
#

Also I bought 1 badge EVER (For Crosscode)

ebon sleet
#

well, useless in that it doesnt do extra damage to a single enemy

jade crescent
#

best damage boons are mostly artemis

queen hearth
#

Same but i also find them very fun in normal chambers

jade crescent
#

I think Dionysus ult is really good DPS as well

ebon sleet
#

i used to grab the +400% armor but again same reason its useless on final boss so i ignore it now

#

dionysus is low-key awesome

junior galleon
#

Which god has the worst boons?

jade crescent
#

zeus ult is amazing too

queen hearth
#

Wait is it? It takes be an unbelievable amount of time to kill the last boss' summons without an armor bonus

#

me*

#

Especially if he summons chariots

opaque bough
#

worst is Ares maybe? though hes still good

jade crescent
#

I avoid ares, dionysis, zeus, and poseidon mostly for boss stuff

narrow hemlock
#

I don't think there's really any "worst" bc it really depends on your build. some gods are inherently better with specific aspects than others

jade crescent
#

poseidon can be good in the dungeons though

opaque bough
#

zeus also kinda weaksauce but lightning goes zipzap

jade crescent
#

artemis is always good, and athena is very strong

queen hearth
#

Ares is kinda good on railgun and fists though isn't he

junior galleon
#

Poseidon ha that nice boon that buffs damage against bosses

ebon sleet
#

dude

#

ares Doom builds are OP im telling you now

jade crescent
#

but it's delayed damage :/

opaque bough
#

yeah I like picking doom but Dionysus/artemis just feel stronger

fringe garnet
#

I just saw a screenshot where POST CREDITS SPOILERS ||a pop up message in forms you you are not Security Specialist for the House of Hades. persephone is back in the House for me but I never saw that message. Will it come up later, or did a bug make it not proc for me?||

jade crescent
#

can you stack the doom though, I thought a character could only have 1 at a time

queen hearth
#

There's a boon that allows you to stack it

opaque bough
#

the perk that gives you bonus doom damage per stack + aspect of chiron bow zagluv

jade crescent
#

ah, so you've gotta have at least two from him then

ebon sleet
#

doom delayed damage thats a red herring

queen hearth
#

Yeah

ebon sleet
#

the DPS is just huge

#

like, youll do 140 damage and then doom ticks 180

#

140, 180, 140, 180

opaque bough
#

isnt doom dmg delayed anyway, what's half a second more

queen hearth
#

And there's also another boon that makes the doom damage higher and it takes 0.5 seconds longer to go off

#

So you can stack it even further

jade crescent
#

you stil got to wait a full second though

floral tartan
#

hi guys, my game freezes every once in a while, is this normal?

fading gazelle
#

@fringe garnet Yeah that message is a one time thing

opaque bough
#

one second of furiously dashing to a corner

jade crescent
#

so I'm hearing you need complementary boons to make it worthwhile

fading gazelle
#

hi guys, my game freezes every once in a while, is this normal?
@floral tartan It shouldn't?

ebon sleet
#

then you get something like the spear 7-hit and you put doom on every enemy

jade crescent
#

happens if I leave it up overnight jr

fringe garnet
#

it's one-time but when does it proc @fading gazelle ? should it have proced for me already?

ebon sleet
#

doom build really only good if you get some AOE

#

that can apply doom en masse

fading gazelle
#

It happens immediately after you ||hand the painting||

floral tartan
#

game freezes but it still has sound and i can hear things moving. but then it goes back again

opaque bough
#

also looking at general gameplay, starting with a daedalus hammer is just the best start right?

fading gazelle
tulip acorn
#

Anyone know what I should aim for when going for a posidon blade cast build?

fading gazelle
ebon sleet
#

walk into chamber, apply doom to every mob, just run around and keep re-apply doom

fringe garnet
#

@fading gazelle maybe this is ahead of where i am - ||hand the painting? the family is back together and there is a painting on the wall in Hades' chambers that i can return to and admire whenever i want.|| Is that being there what you're talking about? Or is there more I haven't done yet? If the latter, just say "there's more," don't tell me what I'm missing please 🙂

fading gazelle
#

Avoid any cast that bounces or doesn't lodge into people @tulip acorn

tulip acorn
#

Okay

jade crescent
#

but there you go, having to wait for enemies to die, rather than continually hitting and stunning

#

bad for faster runs

fading gazelle
#

The message appears exactly after you ||hang the painting|| so you've already passed it

fringe garnet
#

ahhhhh. so how do i bug report this? it's too late to go press F10....

opaque bough
#

Avoid any cast that bounces or doesn't lodge into people
yeah about this, don't those perks also ruin the damage upgrade from the mirror?

brisk trail
#

Can you get hades affinity past one heart?

fading gazelle
#

Yes

brisk trail
#

Oh cool

#

The wiki said you couldn’t

opaque bough
#

I assume so but probably plot progression is my guess

fading gazelle
#

Yes

#

The wiki is currently outdated

jade crescent
#

is that new with v1.0?

junior galleon
#

The wiki is a bit outdated

fading gazelle
#

We are trying our best to add the new info from 1.0

jade crescent
#

the full release was less than a week ago

brisk trail
#

What happens if you max affinity with a god?

fringe garnet
#

wait volty the screenshot i'm looking at mentions a ||"resource director, to whom you just spoke."|| i've never met this NPC. where are they? who are they???

fading gazelle
#

You become BFF's with them

terse geyser
#

The wiki said you couldn’t
@brisk trail the wiki hasn't been updated, there aren't enough people working on it to get stuff done quickly

jade crescent
#

you get a cool icon next to their keepsake

brisk trail
#

Does it do anything else?

fading gazelle
#

wait volty the screenshot i'm looking at mentions a ||"resource director, to whom you just spoke."|| i've never met this NPC. where are they? who are they???
@fringe garnet Oh that is different

jade crescent
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not that I'm aware GWmythiFeelsBadMan

brisk trail
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Rip

lean plaza
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I found 2 duos from 1 boon selection. How rare is that? It was between Dionysus and Aphrodite

fringe garnet
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so maybe i haven't missed something yet?

fading gazelle
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There's more to do to get the ||resource director||

fringe garnet
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got it, ok

opaque bough
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I found 2 duos from 1 boon selection. How rare is that? It was between Dionysus and Aphrodite
got this once too so probably not that uncommon

fading gazelle
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So you haven't missed anything relikan squirtnya

opaque bough
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then again duos are rare af in general

kind moss
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no

fading gazelle
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Not really

fringe garnet
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WHEW. Thanks!!

kind moss
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duos/legendaries have a 35% chance base iirc

hollow bane
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nah

jade crescent
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double duo from a single boon? 👀

fading gazelle
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yes

kind moss
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as long as you meet all the prerequisites

fading gazelle
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pretty common

jade crescent
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pretty rare unless you have that green mirror upgrade

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whot

fading gazelle
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You just have to build properly

hollow bane
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you need specific boons to get a duo

kind moss
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they're "rare" because you need to get all their prerequisites

junior galleon
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Same with legendary boons

kind moss
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but once you get all the prerequisites its 35%

jade crescent
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my legendary/duo upgrade is really low, I've got the rare/purple variant of that upgrade maxed

serene breach
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I've seen a handful of legendaries and one duo total

kind moss
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I've never been a fan of the legendary/duo one

junior galleon
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You can reset your mirror for 1 key

fading gazelle
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I don't have the mirror aspect to increase the chances of duos or legendries but i still get plenty

opaque bough
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I had a legendary once? but it was like my second run and I forgot what it was

jade crescent
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I know, but I like my current setup mostly

kind moss
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Like 1% on top of 35% isn't doing much

fading gazelle
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The epic rarity is way better and much useful

junior galleon
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Well it ads 10% at mex

kind moss
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^

jade crescent
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I've hardly seen legendaries, but duos on their own aren't too rare

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the legendary/duo one is decent for achievement hunting at least

kind moss
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legendaries usually need 2-3 other boons

fading gazelle
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But in the end you'll probably put RI 2 or 1 and it doesn't matter at that point

kind moss
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while duos usually only need two

potent carbon
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I got poseidon legendary twice in one run and sold it once

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Would sell it again

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Since I was already in styx

fading gazelle
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Which one?

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Big catch?

potent carbon
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Push +1

fading gazelle
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Oh

terse geyser
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knockback

junior galleon
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But like if you go for a legendary.
And you have the prerequisits

terse geyser
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a man does not simply sell big catch

fading gazelle
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Poseidon has two legendries so I just gotta make sure squirtyay

junior galleon
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Itsa big difference between 35 and 45%

serene breach
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Poseidon has standards

terse geyser
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a man does not simply sell big catch

jade crescent
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I sold big catch because I was on that run where I needed to purge a boon GWjiangoOmegaLUL

tidal lotus
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guys, I've got problem with prophecy for aegis. Is charged flight still in the game or my prohecy is broken? xd

fading gazelle
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It still is in the game

potent carbon
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I mean if gave me enough money to buy a diamond

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So worth

fringe garnet
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poseidon's second legendary is worthless IMO

fading gazelle
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You can't get charged flight if you are running chaos or zeus aspect @tidal lotus

potent carbon
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Plus double knockback is useless after styx anyways

fringe garnet
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you basically never find it until the run is over and it's too late

potent carbon
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I mean

jade crescent
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I'm missing a single keepsake, is that from ||hades or persephone?|| or is the someone inside the ||infernal gates|| which I havne't opened yet

potent carbon
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You can fish on the ||surface||

fringe garnet
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true! but that's so few chambers....

junior galleon
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I wish they buffed egg

jade sparrow
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Does giving nectar before picking up a boon improve boons?

junior galleon
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Full chaos run

potent carbon
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What fish do you get on the ||surface|| anyways?

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I got to fish there once but messed up the catch

fading gazelle
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@jade crescent ||They both give you one, so you are missing two. Hades' doesn't show up in the keepsake cupboard||

fringe garnet
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@potent carbon major spoilers ||trout, bass, and sturgeon||

potent carbon
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And never got another chance

fading gazelle
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You'll still get chances

junior galleon
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|| barsch ||

potent carbon
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I did get the legendary fish in styx first try tho

humble quarry
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how do i unlock demeter hearts

tidal lotus
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How come I've done like 200 runs (many with zagreus apspect of aegis) and did not get it... @fading gazelle well, thanks anyways. It looks like I've got a few more runs to do then

fringe garnet
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@humble quarry progress the story

fading gazelle
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Hammer's are still rng so you have to deal with it 😅

jade crescent
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ah, I've gifted ||hades|| before, I've never had the option to gift ||persephone|| then again, she is still in the ||garden||, and the story is making me expect she may come to the house

junior galleon
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How do you get rare fish? Is it just RNG?

jade crescent
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what did ||hades|| give again?

potent carbon
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If you catch fast enough you get rare fish, or 5% chance to be legendary

tidal lotus
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@junior galleon It's all about the timing

potent carbon
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If you catch slow you get common fish with 5% rare

junior galleon
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Oh rip

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I suck at timing

fading gazelle
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||His sigil, which makes you go invisible as a call|| @jade crescent

junior galleon
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Guess I will never complete that prophecy then

jade crescent
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huh, and it doesnt show in the cupboard?

fading gazelle
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yeah

jade crescent
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where do you find it then?

fading gazelle
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He'll give it to you

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And then it'll appear

potent carbon
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Basically mash e as soon as you see the flash

jade crescent
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but how do you equip it if it's not there?

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or you're saying I don't have it from either, and his just doesn't show as un-collected yet

fading gazelle
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No it's there, just not the silhouette

jade crescent
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ah

fading gazelle
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So people misunderstand the number of keepsakes

ebon sleet
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im trying to put an image but it wont let me

tidal lotus
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there are several cofigurations tho, if you go fisihing enough, then you'll see some patterns ;3 @junior galleon

ebon sleet
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here we go

fading gazelle
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@ebon sleet You have to use a third part software like gyazo or imgur

potent carbon
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I’m slowly amassing 500 gems for superior trove

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This better be worth it

jade crescent
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you get to a point where you just stack tons of gems anyways, not too useful after a point

spice oar
#

Hey guys sorry to be this guy but ive had hades for a long time on steam and i will buy it again on switch but i was curious if they have some kind of discount for second time buyers? any help or suggestion would be great. Thanks

fading gazelle
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No discount sadly

potent carbon
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It’s a steal for the price anyways

junior galleon
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@Borek#0409 ohhh I thought it was just beeing very fast. Ok will look for that now

fading gazelle
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@ebon sleet
Dark regeneration is way superior to cthonic vitality any day

potent carbon
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Isn’t it just you catch as soon as you see the flash?

jade crescent
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is that the one where you get 3 health for each room? what is the alternate?

potent carbon
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and if you’re fast enough you get the rare

ebon sleet
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😮

trail onyx
#

i am starting to think playing this with a controller is a horrible idea, the auto aim is horrendous at times

fading gazelle
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regenerate 80% of darkness collected as health

potent carbon
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Some people are using controller to move and mouse to aim

ebon sleet
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whoa it goes up to 80%

fading gazelle
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yeah

potent carbon
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It’s 60% no?

fading gazelle
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Maybe?

woeful finch
#

I died from a hangover, too real for me 😆

potent carbon
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Either way it’s really nice on troves, wells and bosses you already beat

fading gazelle
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Exactly

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Darkness troves heal you much better than healing troves

ebon sleet
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oh crap i just remembered i think i discovered an easter egg and i took a screenshot

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you guys have to tell me if im right

fading gazelle
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Okay?

junior galleon
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Like I catched a total of 40+ fish and never got something better then rare

potent carbon
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If you haven’t beat final boss on that heat elysium boss basically gives you 90 heal

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Plus the fountain in the room after

junior galleon
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That's pretty good

potent carbon
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It is kinda sucky that you only get 10 darkness and 5 gems per room tho

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1 key is fine tho

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But those two are basically literal scraps, I’d rather pick a room that improves my run over them any day

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Or money to save for the styx shop

ebon sleet
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ahh i cant find the screenshot. basically in elysium i found a big blue shiny door with 2 candles, but only 1 candle was lit with a blue goblet

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and i saw 1 blue goblet on the table

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does anyone know what im talking about?

fading gazelle
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Ummm

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What is it referencing?

ebon sleet
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1sec

junior galleon
ebon sleet
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this big blue door has 2 spots for goblets on the top

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only 1 goblet is in there

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and on this table there is a single goblet

fading gazelle
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I mean it's just there for aesthetic purposes?

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There isn't any secret behind the that door or the goblet

jade crescent
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that would be a sick secret

ebon sleet
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it looks like if you somehow make that 1 goblet go to the open spot above the door it will open

fading gazelle
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That would be cool

ebon sleet
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if thats not a secret it seems like 1 mighty troll

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or maybe something unfinished

fading gazelle
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It's just an art choice 😅

ebon sleet
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aw

fading gazelle
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Sorry to ruin your hopes

ebon sleet
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okay last question before i have to go back to work

fading gazelle
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Shoot

ebon sleet
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what do you get for coloring the rugs and walls and stuff with the contractor?

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the stuff that requires gems but not work orders

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'House Decor'

fading gazelle
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Those are purely cosmetic

ebon sleet
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ahhhhh

fading gazelle
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They make your house look nice

jade crescent
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except for ||dusa's|| companion progression

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the lounge parts

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huh, if you gift thanatos and he runs off, you can still chat with him if you go into the records room and come back out

brisk trail
jade crescent
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and you can't run more rooms? rip

brisk trail
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Nope, I even sold a boon hoping it was enough

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No idea how I'll survive with like 150 HP

atomic hearth
#

I've just came here to say that I encountered Eurydice for the first time, and her voice and scenery almost made me cry. This game is a masterpiece.

fair dove
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Supergiant is very good with visuals and audio

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Glad u enjoy them

mellow finch
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At least they lowered the price of the other possible spawn this patch.

brisk trail
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So there wil be more updates/dlc down the line right

mellow finch
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nothing confirmed as of yet

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and in the past supergiant have never added content to a game post launch, so there's a decent chance that there won't be

supple field
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got a question, ||how much do i have to renovate to complete dusa's prophecy||

brisk trail
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I also got a question, does Supergiant Games intend to make DLCs for this game to continue the storyline or is it basically done after 1.0 update and they focus on something else from now on?

mellow finch
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look literally two posts above

unreal vine
#

i thought rail gun was op

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i was wrong

fair dove
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I believe they are taking a break

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@brisk trail

unreal vine
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fists plus athena dash deflect

fair dove
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And I don’t think they are adding any content

unreal vine
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holy poop

manic bobcat
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i thought rail gun was op
it can be if you build it right

fair dove
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Not in the near future anyway

brisk trail
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@mellow finch Oh rip

unreal vine
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FISTS + DEFLECT

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just beat the 3rd boss for me

fair dove
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Congrats

unreal vine
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dash deflect dash deflect

fair dove
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Ur close

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Fox are u proud of me

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Tell me ur proud of me

manic bobcat
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did you make it?

unreal vine
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nah i’m probably gonna die i got low hp

fair dove
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Twice in a row actually

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Fist and shield

manic bobcat
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shed tears of happiness

fair dove
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Not an official streak cause I suicided with bow

supple field
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no answer to my question 😔

fair dove
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Me too, me too

manic bobcat
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idk the answer myself, i just kinda buy eveything

fair dove
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I bought aspect of chaos

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My chaos is now one level higher than Demeter lol

mellow finch
#

there was an answer in the gamepedia, last time I looked

fair dove
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Only used one single DD too which was surprising

mellow finch
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||you definitely have to clean up the fur and damage done by cerberus, don't remember what else||

fair dove
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I never bought any cosmetic stuff maybe I should do that

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Just don’t find them actually useful

unreal vine
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and i died

proud cedar
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||speaking of renovations, what's the function of administrative office? i thought it would unlock cool nice feature, but then i found out it only got record of your attempts||

fair dove
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You are one step closer homie

unreal vine
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poison rats

fair dove
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Keep at it

unreal vine
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what’s Twitch doing in the underworld anyways

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mf needs to be on the rift

fair dove
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@unreal vine ||not sure if u know but u can cure the poison from drinking from a fountain||

unreal vine
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while a battle is going on

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?

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what fountain

proud cedar
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yeah

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||the mandrake jacuzzi thingie||

fair dove
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||if u are poisoned go to a small fountain with green liquid and press interact||

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Instantly cures

unreal vine
#

is there always a fountain when fighting them

fair dove
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Yes if there are poison enemies

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Always

unreal vine
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wow i am dumb

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and now i’m defeated

fair dove
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They don’t tell u that lol

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And it’s not obvious

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Don’t stress

vale dagger
#

Anybody stream this game? I know there are tons of streamers out there, but I'm looking for somebody calm and chill of you have suggestions

void vigil
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@supple field from the wiki: ||you need a minimum of 12 Lounge-focused renovations, which must include at least one rug for the area as well as cleaning up Cerberus's fur and the scratches he left in the floor||

indigo plover
#

theseus actuallly just killed me w 1 pixel of health left and its further ive got

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smh

unreal vine
#

feels worse than a bad dead cells/isaac run lol

fair dove
#

Anybody stream this game? I know there are tons of streamers out there, but I'm looking for somebody calm and chill of you have suggestions
@vale dagger have u tried YouTube play throughs? YouTube series are often time more calm than streams

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Lirik is streaming Hades rn he’s pretty chill

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So is DansGaming

supple field
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thanks @void vigil

fair dove
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If u look in hades category you’ll prob find someone u like watching

void vigil
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you can check out #self-promotion as well occasionally and you might find a streamer you like!

brittle zealot
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I just got the ending today and currently working on postgame. A ||happy|| ending eh, rather unorthodox for Supergiant

terse geyser
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@fair dove look at my profile rq

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you'll notice the controller and kbm roles

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which already exist and therefore needn't be added

tulip acorn
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3 for 3, lez go

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Why did I not discover cast builds before, so much fun

brittle zealot
#

while I don't actively go for cast builds, there was one time I used a really nasty cast build to escape hell

narrow hemlock
#

cast builds can be really fun

brittle zealot
#

Zagreus naming the ||bone hydra "Lernie"|| has some serious pokemon nicknaming energy

supple field
#

ok so i just ||talked to bouldy for the first time and why is a darn rock so freaking cute||

kind moss
#

why no controller/mouse role

supple field
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KBM = keyboard and mouse

kind moss
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no keyboard

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controller in one hand mouse in other

steel flicker
#

then we need roles which one is in which hand

kind moss
#

I'm pretty sure that's just lefty/righty

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so kinda unnecessary

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you can use kbm in either hand too

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it's the input tools that mattwr

wanton goblet
#

anyone else have some buggy achievements?

mellow finch
severe talon
#

so if i want to completely restart a run, does "Give Up" not do that anymore?

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it used to drop me back at the House of Hades but now Give Up just restarts the room

frozen roost
#

Didnt think achilles aspect would be that good

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Didnt lose a single life

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Face rolled everything with artemis zeus athena lol

fair dove
#

Didnt think achilles aspect would be that good
@frozen roost what level on Achilles are u

supple field
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achilles aspect is my favorite weapon to run tbh

frozen roost
#

1

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@fair dove

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Wait no its 2

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Im gonna test hera tomorrow

fair dove
#

Achilles really that good?

frozen roost
#

Yea

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His special makes boss fights really easy

fair dove
#

That spear catch could be kind of annoying I think

frozen roost
#

Especially 3rd

fair dove
#

How so

frozen roost
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Because you teleport to spear

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Use that with athena special deflect

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And you basically never take dmg

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Though i think zeus hard carried that

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I got really good boons on zeus

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Zeus calling is just straight up busted for anything really especially last fight

lavish tree
#

I'm addicted to EM4

hallow spoke
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erm, what does the lock on the hearts mean?

lavish tree
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I think it's the most intense fight I've had in single player games