#h1-discussion
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Uhhhh know when you can attack and dodge
Pay attention to attack patterns basically
This game comes down to muscle memory and enemy moveset memory. Both will develop with each escape attempt. What seems impossible to you now, will seem so trivial as you get the hang of the game. Also you'll get some buffs to help you along the way.
Oh and actually getting stronger happens over time because roguelite elements. Just as important!
Anything I should know
deal damage dont die
4Head
also
Stay on your toes, don't linger too much
Uhhhh it’s got that classic final boss trope
And don’t stay near during the “trope”
Utilize all your knowledge so far, you can do this
and i like taking the chaos egg on the first floor
IMO this game did an amazing job making my first several attempts feel like I was in over my head, but as I began unlocking stuff it just all started coming together and I started kicking ass
but boy the beginning time is hard
Repetition and unlocks are key to winning
to get those boons without messing up my health
it's definitely in the first chamber sometimes
the first few attempts make you feel great untill you hit meg
i got that lucky just on my last run
Pft, I feel like I could never bring myself to steal.
Then again I hadn’t been given the opportunity to in a while
and get rekt
I died to Meg like 6 times in a row, barely beat her the 7th time, and now I can beat her every time. She never stands a chance lol
Where can I find patch notes of these updates every few days we receiving? https://jaex.getsharex.com/2020/09/steam_EaNbPHS9bK.png
I was waiting achievement bug to get fixed before start the game and I can't be sure is it fixed.
Meg be smokin crack
i played a lot of gungeon
her and her lame sisters
I don't think SGG really posts minor hotfixes, they might post a big one later
IMO Gungeon is infinitely harder than this game. I still have trouble with the Bullet King ffs
y’all played Monolith
well gungeon is all about learning bosses attack patterns
Gungeon is great I never beat the sixth dungeon tho
gungeon is a lot more of a bullet-hell type game than hades
yes
i beat gungeon
also i'd say its quite a bit more rng heavy considering how many guns there are
Also it’s harder to get broken stuff early-game in Gungeon compared to Hades
like we talking double lich level beat gungeon
Ever wanted to infinite-stun any boss?
Gungeon's also a much slower pace, while Hades is very, very fast, so dying deep into a Gungeon run makes me wanna cry
whereas in hades if you're good enough you can probably consistantly win regardless of which boons you get
Check back with us when you’ve got 12000
man i knoew i shoulda gon fo rthe 7-0% more gold instead of the 70 more max hp
I lost
Hey Developers, after been playing Hades for long time, I'm really excited to see all the amazing positive reviews you're receiving. Well earned!!! Congrats SuperGiant
Soooo~ How do you feel, Sauce?
The concurrent player numbers are insane for a roguelite. It's getting like Isaac at its peak levels
I was doing good until he summoned those elites
(please don't evade the swear filter!)
That marks my 15th run
wait what is decay?
oh yea
15th run and got to redacted for the first time
didnt see that
That's solid
well i have it on my attack so im golden
Took me 30? to get to redacted
i got him on my like 8th run
Decay requires all enemies to be frosted, no?
bruh
No. The decay debuff works on any enemy you have chill effect on.
The rest I just skim thru the texts lol
I forgot when I got to redacted first the first time
I just know I flipped the heck out before I died
yea it requires i apply it to everyone
What does ambrosia do
but like
Trade 1 ambrosia for 1 blood?
why not take it for boss killing
Question mark?
dont
tbh I liked the ambience better before it had that music sting before the boss theme
oh yea i got jolted
I really like jolted
and my lightning os on my special
oh my god
i jsut go tcold fusion
i just got cold fusion
jolted no lasts for 10 seconds
now
and doesnt expire on attack
Cold fusion is amazing
It can help
I’d level that up
I personally never used it though >_>
Very useful if you’re new to Redacted
that or Skelly Tooth if you want
Give it a try and see
persobnally i prefer using uh cerberuses collar for redacted
cuz i ususally have all my dds
Acorn provides more effective HP than both collar and tooth I think
hey genuine question, ||demeter|| <- spoiler of something that happens after you beat the game, is the only character I haven't given nectar too for a keepsake, but they have not spawned in the last 15 runs, am i just really unlucky or not understanding a spawn condition for her?
RNG
😦
||Demeter|| also shows up once you reach Redacted, doesn't require beat If I recall
i've been using ||alter fate|| on rooms to try and get her specifically on other ||boons||
yea i mean i've ||beat the game|| a number of times now so
i guess im mega unlucky
I got her as a firstboon after losing to Redactef for the first time
wait whats the acorn do?
yea shes guranteed after that, just hasn't been spawning since which is pretty unlucky
Negate X instances of damage during boss
In case you want a more exact answer:|| Eurydice, in Asphodel||
oh i probly have it then
o hman
i just got lightning on my dash as well
my joltes is going ham now
Hehe lightning go brrrrrr
What is the most effective Eurydice thing I wonder
I always pick next 3 are rarity up
Depends on what you have, I guess
I always pick next 3 are rarity up
@gusty slate same
Man I’m still sad I didn’t beat the game
It's habit now, sorta bad I guess
I just roll the dice
Don't feel sad, you got pretty far
It was also your first time
But somehow I didn’t have any
“Years of academy training, wasted”
Is there a way to see how many DD u have
I'm mega bad, it took me like 15 attempts to beat meg
Bottom left corner, right next to your health
But yeah
Dang ok I didn’t know u can see that
Just keep at it and enjoy Hades
yo i just killed the 3rd level boss in like 30 seconds
You probably still have a few upgrades to go too
There's differing symbols for the source of the DD, like from a specific god/item, but they all do the same thing
I’m happy I got a PB tho
You probably still have a few upgrades to go too
@gusty slate yea I do I only unlocked the first set of talents in the mirror
I'm on like 6 heat now
Boiling blood and Stygian soul
i legit killed em so fst i didnt even bother focusing one or the other
I still need some keys
Its hard
I hope so
You'll reach a point, trust me
No hope, it's fo shure
Sometimes I get a good run and then the next 2 or 3 I do really bad
RNG does that
does the acorn work on redacted?
Also nice Gecko
does the acorn work on redacted?
@smoky halo don’t see why not
Works on any major boss I believe
it says underworld region
It does
the power creep is real. 6 hours ago I felt like I was a piece of paper running around hitting things with a twig, now I'm consistently reaching Elysium and getting boon synergies that clear rooms
It’s helpful
Once u beat it the first time, the itll be loads eadier
the power creep is real. 6 hours ago I felt like I was a piece of paper running around hitting things with a twig, now I'm consistently reaching Elysium and getting boon synergies that clear rooms
@brisk trail yo nice bro
well mine isnt upgraded yet so i guess ill stick with my spiky coller
Once u beat it the first time, the itll be loads eadier
@brisk trail don’t u get 1000 darkness after u beat it
Something like that
Im saving keys for 3 DD
I’m half way there
Or maybe I should just upgrade other talents
i won fo rth eifrst time last night
Your call, the other talents are pretty nice though
think im doing it again rn
Darkness is a lot less of a factor than you think
I wouldn't say that. The upgrades that gave me +2 uses of my magic and revives upon death were literally game-changing
The magic uses in particular have been insanely strong
Cast builds are hard for me
I went for cast regen because I like cast builds
the new frost lady has an amazing cast tho
I like sticking targets with the crystal to get that +50% damage buff per stack. It shreds tough enemies and bosses
I like constant pressure or huge hits, no in between
I like sticking targets with the crystal to get that +50% damage buff per stack. It shreds tough enemies and bosses
@brisk trail yes
Works well with Artemis - You can have more than 3 Casts lodged into opponents at a time
How many encounters does it take to fully level a keepsake from 0?
like, 30-40 i think? maybe more?
Hadeeznutz HAH gottee
So like what, half a run?
A bit more than half?
That’s less than what I thought it would be
Much less
Maybe around the half. Above maybe.
I'm running a maxed collar just for a bit of extra survivability while i learn the game lol
about 2-3 runs if you want to fully level it (assuming no swap out between biomes)
Its like 70 encounters I thought??????
The extra coins keepsake is really good too, though...money can easily turn a mediocre run into a god run
this game makes me want to play kid icarus uprising
can i cloud save to another computer?
my best run so far was me focusing entirely on money, to the point I could buy out every one of Charon's shops
I hate relying on charon
Like idk whats in his shops when I go in
I rarely go into midbiome shops, but the last shop is nice
Same
"Oh look I'm hurt.. maybe Charon can help..." Charon: Here's a key, boon, and pom
Me: 
I always save up for last shops I think. That or Charon wells, for Styx Kisses
speaking of styx
I've used Wells like twice ever
do you guys normally clear out all the paths?
My reasoning has been "I have 500 money, so should I pick the door with a single boon or buy everything Charon has?"
to me the choice is easy
It depends on the single boon tho 4 me
Oh yeah, I'm just speaking from my perspective as a relatively new player
I don't have any meta down yet
My meta is dash attacks
lmao same
If its melee, dash
some did a speedrun
why are there updates and no notes? like the game is 1.36 something and now new notes. It's hard to tell what issues have been noticed since launch, for example, hovering over keepsakes works half the time now.
Were any of yall around when there was only like 4 weapons
I joined Nighty Night update
Nah, I stubbornly waited until 1.0 lol
i joined at the winter update iirc and only played sporadically
Stubborn Roots this one
I've owned the game for nearly a year now, but resisted the urge
I had about 150 hours by the time 1.0 dropped
Also can we talk about the animated stickers in the point shop
37 minutes
The stickers are adorable
I find it funny that I got to Hand in Dead Cells faster than I can reach the end of this, and yet I'd say Dead Cells is overall the harder game
Heat is exponential I feel
Like 1 heat isn't much harder
True
yeah I could only feel the HEAT once I reach 30ish
Not gonna go blue hearts on bow
it was pretty smooth for me straight until 20 heat
is it just me or did ||minotaur and theseus|| get buffed for the final version?
I haven't gone past 19 heat tbh lol don't need anymore boss resouces so just messing around now
granted, i'm a super casual player with nerve damage in one hand
Asterius' dime drifting doesn't seem as good
are you talking with ||extreme measure|| or without?
But still feel about the same
Prolly w\o
Yeah, they get that move after a few attempts and new lines of dialogue.
Swear filter?
I never got the dialogues for that new move though
Oh really?
They just do that lol
Swear filter isn't too surprising, tbh, since Supergiant's games are pretty PG
||It's about Theseus losing confidence in their bond, because Asterius thinks that Zag is not that bad of a guy||
hi i just wanted to say the underworld mix of lament of orpheus is one of my favorite things ever :)
||And then once they make up, they have that new move.||
It was that way for me at least.
but ya, the new move could be what's messing with my memory
Yo there is a bug with the final boss that made me lose 3 runs so far
what is it?
Report it with
in game or go to the #h1-tech-support channel.
got it
still curious though cuz i never got any bug with the final boss 🤔
This games is pretty fun
It keeps me from turning off the game after one failed run unlike other roguelikes I’ve played
I really appreciate that aspect
When I was getting stomped by the Hydra, Zag: " I really hate that Hydra " 😮 me too!
but yeah keep at it, you can only get better from here
Also you're not even fully powered lol... missing some talents 
Indeed
Hey quick question, I havent seen Sisyphus around, do I need to do something to unlock him?
This game is literally designed for you to fail at it. It's even part of the game's lore and story lol
no, it's just RNG
I started a new save file
But I think I am not behind in terms of my supposed power level this far into the game
its been 14 runs and I havent seen him which seems wierd
Wait, can Theseus and Asterius only use that combo move I hear about when they aren’t on EM?
I think so
I’ve been robbed
Man the bull is so freaking easy to dodge
Like it’s not hard at all
But somehow I still manage to get hit from it
I wish, the bull is my DD sink
It’s not hard in theory
gotta dash into him
That's my life
I beat the bull and got Theseus to a sliver of HP before he killed me. I was one bow shot away from winning the fight
Either is redacted tbh
Dude I got mad when he hits me with the backswing
Redacted is not hard it’s the ||ones he summon||
Too much health pool
||Barely got hit by redacted, all my health was drained by the monsters||
Yeah, they're pretty annoying
||i hate the one where he applies impervious shield to redacted||
||u gotta kill him first while dodging everything else||
||holy that's the worse/second worse summon imo. ||They're all really annoying though
Armor break is fairly useful there
Yea I wish I had one
It's funny to me that you're using the word "redacted" even in the spoiler text.
Health is WAY too much for my dps there
It's funny to me that you're using the word "redacted" even in the spoiler text.
@mellow finch ha true just got used to it
Not that there's a problem with that.
Anybody else think Hydra is the easiest boss? I'll occasionally struggle a bit on Meg, but every time I reach Hydra, my build is strong enough to melt it
Redacted is what a Redacted is
Anybody else think Hydra is the easiest boss? I'll occasionally struggle a bit on Meg, but every time I reach Hydra, my build is strong enough to melt it
@brisk trail I find meg easier
I consider all the bosses somewhat hard tbh
Easiest is Tisiphone imo
^same
Easiest is Tisiphone imo
@manic bobcat I met her for the first time today I thought it was gonna be hard but it was fairly easy
Hardest boss is
, the true final boss
Alecto is very very hard, I find
Dusa is the thirstiest one
hydra just depends on which attacks you get bombarded with
why do you say so?
Alecto is pretty aggressive
it's not bad as a year ago or more but, it's still quite rng based
Hydra is easy if u get high dps and melt down the snakes quickly
^
Well I guess that goes for every boss lol
I kill Meg the fastest. Alecto is the hardest
The hardest enemy type for me so far are the bow dudes in Elysium, good lord they are awful in groups
well, hydra's dps race numbers are quite low atleast
Alecto rage part is where I reeeeeally struggle
compared to other bosses
and he's quite slow too, just depends if he just spams the whole area with attacks or not
Alecto rage part is where I reeeeeally struggle
you are going to have so much fun after your first run
The hardest enemy type for me so far are the bow dudes in Elysium, good lord they are awful in groups
@brisk trail the small chariots is also bad
When playing fist
I also hate the butterfly balls
you don't kill the chariots as fists. you let them suicide into terrain
I don’t know how to beat butterfly ball without getting hit
@craggy imp thats why you try to invest on a decent cast with fists or just let em suicide into terrain
I fight the chariots with fist
I got shotgunned by a Gorgon using fists lol. I didn't even know it had projectiles, it just obliterated my health and I was confused
you don't kill the chariots as fists. you let them suicide into terrain
@manic bobcat that’s what I did I tried to lure them into detonating before dashing away
you can i frame the explosion btw. I feel like a pro when I do that
That's why I pick Talos aspect. To snatch and dispatch those little bastards.
@craggy imp thats why you try to invest on a decent cast with fists or just let em suicide into terrain
@radiant grove yea I prob should do that, I had aphro cast that run LOL
I never pick aphro cast, should probably start doing that more
yeah gl killing mini chariots with that lol
Aphro cast was what I expected
tho i like aphro cast
Fists with the charge attack was my favorite run in terms of sheer fun value. Just going around Shoryuken'ing everything
once you get a decent duo or just some boons that supports it
even in high heat it's quite durable
I’m an exclusive fist player now pretty much
Love to see the festive fog def boost
Just don’t find other weapons that fun
Doesn’t go as smooth as fist
Fist has plenty of extreme down sides tho which I hate
only weapons i hate/cant play is the sword and rail lol
My fist cheese build is Athena attack
rail's damage is just too low even with 1-2-3rd aspects
I also don’t like rail
I've gotten used to all the weapons. My spear runs are still super clunky
yall haven't seen the beauty that is Rocket Bomb + Cluster Bomb + Deadly Flourish at point blank range
I do the best with bow so far. I've had some devastatingly strong synergies with it. I got some boons for the special that allowed me to burn through a hydra head's HP in almost a single burst at close range
@manic bobcat OH GOD LOL
Fist just plays so smoooooothly
@manic bobcat That, but with Hades Aspect + Massive Spin + Deflect on Attack.
I meant your witches circle meme.
^ i actually had that run yesterday
was quite fun to deflect projectiles from half screen away
I hate witches man
That combo is disgusting tbh.
I had a room full of them
And I was playing fist
That room alone prob took nearly 100 health
I think I undervalue deflection, since there's a lot more bullets in later stages and having some form of deflect makes you a lot better in those situations
That's why you pick Divine Dash @fair dove
Also makes the big butterfly ball easy, since you can hit both it and the exalted souls with the same spin attack, even if they are almost a full screen apart.
You don't need deflect, you just gotta feel the inner bullet hell
That's why you pick Divine Dash @fair dove
@manic bobcat I would’ve if she offered me 😭
I think I undervalue deflection, since there's a lot more bullets in later stages and having some form of deflect makes you a lot better in those situations
@brisk trail athena attack/dash is one of best boons you could get
makes your life easier too
I had a room full of glowy witches and they all killed themselves because I had deflect on my attacks
in 3rd/4th biomes
You don't need deflect, you just gotta feel the inner bullet hell
@gusty slate the thing is u gotta go far to avoid bullets, and go in to do damage. But then by the time u are in there the next wave starts
I think I might take Athena keepsake at the start now just for divine dash
I need that so bad
Looks about right
Deflect as wave begins
Sheeesh
coronacht athena special
Also why my fist athena attack is cheese build... it can deflect melee?
My favorite was when I got the fist charge special with deflect. An enemy with projectiles would helplessly get pummeled by both my uppercut and their own projectile
witches circle becomes the easiest room in the game
Explanation, probably: ||It spawns a lot of bullets at the same time in different directions. All of them got deflected at once.||
Hey i have a question about the ending screen when you beat hades.|| It shows a selection screen, where you can pick 5 boons. Does this do anything to the game? ||
also final boss name should be part of that spoiler
Oh whoops
nono real final boss is 
How to know if there is a fishing spot nearby?? The "chime" sound cue is just to low to realize
Does no one understand...
is to be feared
I love cerberus with all of my heart
There's a light in the water and a chime at the end
Dusa is lowkey the MVP, she keeps everything in order and works her hardest
@gusty slate 
Her voice is adorable though
that is a hot take
Hot take confirmed. Dusa is best girl.
shes supposed to be awkward
Bro I stg all the characters in this game speak so damn slow
Any tips on builds? My best build so far is Dionysus cast + aspect of hera on coronacht
it fits well
HURRY UP MAN I’m tryna play the game
But the true villain behind the scenes is 
hi all
I read through it quick
Cause the voice acting is so slow
Nyx has my favorite voice overall. That pitch black ominous tone/echo to it is so awesome
don't you dare accuse
of any malevolence, ill intent or naughtiness
v1.0 save is when I'll actually appreciate the dialogue
Megs voice tho 👀
Nyx has my favorite voice overall. That pitch black ominous tone/echo to it is so awesome
@brisk trail meg for me. She sounds like she’s moaning when she speaks
or he and I will smite thee
LMAO
meg such a bad girl
I usually just let the voices play out, because I'm not in a hurry and like the acting.
I usually just let the voices play out, because I'm not in a hurry and like the acting.
@mellow finch that real nice
is it normal to keep dying in God mode?
I prob am missing out on plenty of lore stuff
Since I skip dialogue
is it normal to keep dying in God mode?
@brisk trail yes
I mean, play how you want.
Meg talks like she's currently in bed with you, it's weird
Please go be creepy somewhere else
It’s normal to die a lot it’s normal to beat the game quick
but thats why i like it
Meg talks like she's currently in bed with you, it's weird
@brisk trail
Meg talks like she's currently in bed with you, it's weird
No one tells him
You’ll find urself comparing ur progress to others’ progress
And it messes with u a lot
I do that a lot and it’s not good lol
Oh right...this is greek mythology after all
it literally does not matter lol
Oh god no
single p[layer game
I do that a lot and it’s not good lol
@fair dove okay that's true
just have fun
I'm trying to think of a scenario in which I think of the underworld as anything but a bed
This game is not easy, and god mode still takes a while to ramp up. The biggest upgrade in the game is not achieved by spending resources, but by improving yourself.
hey so uh random thing
i love the lore very much
how do i get the bottem uh trinkets
thanks for the advice though
@brisk trail aye man don’t stress. Play at your own pace and enjoy. That’s all that matters
I thought I'd be completely hopeless in the beginning but I got to the second level today and was proud of myself. Just a few upgrades.
The pain of death is but another obstacle, and fear is for the weak
@smoky halo what are you specifically talking about?
Something like that
I thought I'd be completely hopeless in the beginning but I got to the second level today and was proud of myself. Just a few upgrades.
@signal heron proud of you. Big improvements
You do start extremely weak, though. Once the boon synergies and darkness upgrades start rolling in, you naturally start beating stuff easier even without a whole lot of effort on your part. I think it's a perfect mix of player skill and itemization
i see
Bribe some people, they'll be more willing to tell
@smoky halo like the things with the lock on them?
yea
Meta progression plays too much of a role in this game
||you need to form a bond with certain NPCs||
the dodge/shoot really hurt my hands lol
That’s maaaaaaybe the only thing I don’t like about hades
Meta progression is wayyyy too much
U rely on it way too much
Meta progression plays too much of a role in this game
Because post game is a huge part of it, so it needs meta progression
It's not like Isaac where your runs are entirely item focused, but also not quite like Dead Cells where it's 90% up to how good you are. It's right smack in the middle
To the point where u don’t know if YOU are improving, or if THE GAME is improving you for you
I'll take my crutch
Because post game is a huge part of it, so it needs meta progression
@manic bobcat that’s true
I'm a baddie and I've done ~200 hours
any of you purchased the soundtrack?
@fair dove You'd prefer the traditional Rogue-like then, where you have real perma-death, and no upgrades that persist through that.
no, I pay Spotify for that though
Soundtrack is on Spotify???
what to search if you don't mind to tell me
yee
I have it on the Epic store, because you got it for free if you bought the game early enough.
spotify does pay the artists right?
on Darren's page
Nuclear Throne is a good game if you always want a clean slate and item drops don't determine too much. The only unlocks are characters, you get NO help otherwise
But not a lot
Hades: Original Soundtrack is the name of the album
Nuclear Throne is a good game if you always want a clean slate and item drops don't determine too much. The only unlocks are characters, you get NO help otherwise
@brisk trail played that game and it is WAY too harsh on you
spotify pays them more or less as much as the other guys
There is 0 meta progression to hold ur hand thru early game
Roguelites need to hit that sweet spot of meta progression
I love Throne. It IS a brutal game, but runs are insanely fast
Track #1 is the way to go
some songs are spoilers
nice thank you very much\
I love Throne. It IS a brutal game, but runs are insanely fast
@brisk trail that I do appreciate
so proceed at your own discretion.
It's also on youtube, on the supergiant channel.
track 29 is a freaking banger
slightly off topic but does Nuc Throne support 1080p 16:9?
slightly off topic but does Nuc Throne support 1080p 16:9?
@manic bobcat a steam mod does
@dusty spade cant wait until I can hear it in game
last I tried it looks 4:3 which I hate
throne is 4:3 IIRC
last I tried it looks 4:3 which I hate
@manic bobcat it’s targeting that arcade look but I see why people don’t enjoy that
It is hard locked to 4:3 yes
I really enjoy track 28.
track 29 is a freaking banger
@dusty spade wow
How's everyone enjoying the game so far?
Can't wait for you as well
ok. anyhow, back to Hades, thanks folks
28 is ||the credits theme|| I assume?
There's actually a very detailed reason by the devs as to why Throne is 4:3, if you wanted to look into it. An interview or something
@cyan python Yes.
The poison in temple messed me up
I couldn’t find the cure fast enough
Temple enemies aren’t too hard I think. Or maybe that’s because I tried to avoid taking mini boss tunnels
Me too
https://gyazo.com/3836e858a18dfe645236c9e1f068ed5d 21k people in game right now 
its not even hard to deal with
I religiously take spearpoint at Styx
just so annoying
https://gyazo.com/3836e858a18dfe645236c9e1f068ed5d 21k people in game right now :thinkingeyes:
@tatzel.#1484 sheeeeesh that’s a lot of people
1 mil copies sold btw
That’s a lot of revenue
For a studio with four games
Logged into steam and was greeted with this wonderful sight
I religiously take spearpoint at Styx
@gusty slate what’s that?
theres 26k reviews on steam, and prior to 1.0 i thiiink it was like 23-24k? i forget. to have 20k+ people in game at once is quite good lmao
I just got 1.8 MB update
was just about to ask if there was a update or something since theres no news on steam
sometimes they drop silent bug fixes
Hades isn't just one of the best roguelites, it's one of the best games I've ever played, period. Contender for my 2020 GOTY. I'm glad it's so successful
bugs sent back to the procession line
@gusty slate killed by devs
if you keep getting small updates like that just assume its like bug/performance fixes
1 little bug fixed, 99 new bugs found
Hades isn't just one of the best roguelites, it's one of the best games I've ever played, period. Contender for my 2020 GOTY. I'm glad it's so successful
@brisk trail it’s the only roguelike that has kept me going and not want to quit
Might be my personal issue but still lol
But I agree it’s a 2020 GOTY contender
2029 future!
yea just mine was stuck at the updating part so i just reopened steam
SGG are timetravelers, that's why game is so good
9 years of contents confirm
I hate it when I praise the game because it's so circle jerky, but it's so true.
🤪
Well Redacted 2 is a God
1.0 is for adding story and polish things, not things that would need another full patch cycle of playtesting
I think previous SGG games were a tad overrated (still good though), but Hades is the first game they've made that's basically revolutionary. In my eyes, it's like the Half-Life of roguelites
And I don't say that lightly
i wasn't talking about 1.0

i was talking about in general
I think previous SGG games were a tad overrated (still good though), but Hades is the first game they've made that's basically revolutionary. In my eyes, it's like the Half-Life of roguelites
@brisk trail I enjoyed bastion and transistor but yea they’re not quite on the level of hades
Roguelikes really is a big market now huh
So many of them in the past few years
And so many successes too
I disagree but thats just my opinion
Hades is what I'll be subconsciously comparing all future games in the genre to, whether I want to or not
isn't roguelite a bit of a niche?
I believe so
Bastion was their first right?
roguelikes/lites are a bit at a point ive seen more people as of late express feeling tired with the genre but i do feel like hades did enough of its own take on it to stand out in the crowd, definitely
yeah
yah
i'd say it was pretty good for their first game
Bastion Transistor Pyre Hades
got me watching over them since then
Hades is what I'll be subconsciously comparing all future games in the genre to, whether I want to or not
@brisk trail the sheer amount of content, lore, mechanics, combat, dialogue and voice acting is hard to compare to
ngl Transistor combat was a let down for me
Hence my Half-Life comparison. Hades introduced a compelling narrative and fully realized world to a genre that hasn't really done that kind of thing before
the rest was good though, I did finish it twice
although all their other games is definitely smaller compared to Hades i think
the combat in transistor was my favorite part lmao
ngl Transistor combat was a let down for me
@manic bobcat it was interesting at first but slowly grew tired of it
Final boss was a bit of a letdown
Not even gonna lie
I thought the combat in Transistor was fantastic, personally. And the way the music dynamically changed with the fights was 10/10
I just wasn't a big fan of the plot
i enjoy all the small things they add in their games
Maybe it's because I followed this game through early access before the final boss or even the boss before that was there. But final boss felt really well done on the first try to me.
like in Bastion if u fall off home the old man will say something along the lines of him falling to his demise and then JK
There are a lot of small touches here and there for 1.0
I will miss the old Corridor between biomes though
always nice to discover the little details they add
I never played Bastion, but I did listen to its soundtrack, which is really really good
@brisk trail man the first time I barely beat the final boss ||only for him to start his 2nd phase|| I freaked out
I sorta get why. It shows the underworld changing
it was cool though
I actually really like the new corridor, mainly because of the gears. Really land credence to the chambers rearranging themselves.
never tried ||lucifer|| before any tips on which gods should i get?
I get why the corridor is mechanical, but the Styx doesn't really fit the mechanical theme
but if you are going to Styx, the old one resembles an actual entrance to a temple.
nitpick, of course
I dont really get why the room before the temple exists tbh
The thing is though, it shouldn't be an entrance to a temple. The entrance is the other sight, that you wanna go out of.
Anyone have any performance issues with Hades on a 2013 Macbook pro?
For the pots
I guess
And for a small breath after the champs
To change the angle by 90°?
Anyone have any performance issues with Hades on a 2013 Macbook pro?
@red shoal it is a 2013 macbook pro
Oh that makes sense
not sure how other gods would work in terms of mechanics anyway, Apollo would be too similar to Artemis, no idea how Hestia could work, Hephaestus would have too much overlap with Daedalus hammers, so that just leaves Hera
I mean Hades runs fine on my 2013 laptop
that said, Hera could be pretty interesting
Very optimized game
it was a pleasant surprise to find out that this game runs 60 fps on a switch
I have a fantasy that one day SGG will randomly release a ROM game.
like $5 random GBA game as ROM
It's such a pretty game that runs perfectly well on a toaster
It also manages to look great with its mixture of 2D backgrounds and 3D models. I thought it looked really strange in Bastion, but it seems they've perfected it
How do I get malphon on switch?? I don’t see it like the other arms
Gotta unlock the other weapons first it seems
Gotcha thank you
just wanted to pop in and say that Hades is an incredible game. Everything just feels so good and I love how all of the systems work together. Great job Supergiant! This is definitely my favorite game of yours and probably my favorite roguelike game as well.
But is it more funky than Crypt of the Necrodancer?
@brisk trail Technically it does have a shopkeeper that sings lol
Basically just stopping in just like Castor Troy for the same reason. I've been a longtime fan of you all's work, and I've poured so much time into this game in particular. The Supergiant team really outdid themselves with Hades - it was so much fun to see this game in several different stages of the development cycle, and you absolutely saved the best for last. I've been pushing your game on all my friends now, too.
Seriously, thank you so much for this game. Every single part of it feels lovingly crafted.
And you might not even have seen all of it 
alright community time to write a card to sgg
I'm sure I haven't yet, but I'm getting pretty close. Just faced EM final boss for the first time, and that was a TRIP.
I just started playing it heavily today. Played it maybe a year ago and decided to just wait until the final version. It was definitely worth the wait. I love greek mythology so I'm really in to these characters. I really enjoy the god boons. It's a really fun system and it doesn't feel boring playing over and over again. And they sprinkle in some story too so it feels fresh like you are moving forward. Also the boss music RIPS. Love it.
Oh yeah, that one is also kind of my current focus.
I've only made it to the 2nd boss so far.
It's rare for a game to both explode in popularity and be universally praised like this one, so SGG deserve to bask in praises. This game will be a classic known for many years
Lots of aspiring, and even current, game developers dream about making a hit like this
Absolutely. I have no idea what they are working on but would love for them to make a Diablo style game or an RTS game like Command and Conquer. I think they could pull it off.
also wish for an RTS
Never played this game till it came out on switch been playing for hours non stop haha
I'd love to see a Metroidvania
and I think a lot of their success has to do with the fact that they self-publish and took full advantage of the Early Access program. They control their own development pace, make their own decisions and take all the feedback they can
one thing that surprised me about Hades also is how each weapon is fun. That usually isn't the case in most games. You find your favorite and that's it, but in this game each one works a little differently, so it feels good to experiment and to play with the different weapons.
We're also sorta forced to do so for bounties lol, but even then we can do cast builds
supergiant bethesda style rpg when
That's the only reason I switched. I was using the spear constantly then I saw the bonus for trying the other weapons so I tried the shield and loved that. Then it wanted me to try the sword so I used that. They're all great.
weird question: has anyone on windows also gotten a bug where none of the achievements are triggering?
I know it's a pending issue in catalina
I remember when a bunch of Youtubers started playing Hades and I had no idea what it was. I assumed it was some kinda Diablo clone lol
but i cannot for the life of me figure out what i did wrong.
Well, like SSG said themselves, it's a reverse-Diablo. You battle out of hell instead of into it.
bought on steam, it launched and pulled data from my EGS local save file and have been stuck ever since...
Pffft, it takes Zag dozens of hours to accomplish what Kratos did in 1 minute
but his plot armour is stronger
The only "bug" I had is that I had controlled folder access turned on in windows and because of that I lost maybe an hours worth of progress because the game couldn't save properly.
But I think that was my fault.
Do we know what any of these small updates for Hades are doing? I just got another one today.
The only strange achievement behavior I've gotten was being given Friends Forever for doing nothing
Somebody on the steam forums made a funny post saying "what, does it count 0/0 maxed as 'having all maxed'?"
which...knowing how code works, that sounds possible
@gusty swift probably just small bug fixes that popped up after 1.0 launched
It's just the game declaring you're its friend forever
It just drives me nuts seeing updates that don't say what they do
I'm just crossing my fingers that zeus shows up again. He popped up in the beginning and I gave him the nectar then I lost my progress and haven't seen him since.
he will
zeus and poseidon seem rarer than the other gods
I don't think they are but they seem that way lol
idk if gods have rarity
dont think they do
all rng
(this is me speaking from the perspective of >100 runs btw)
like I know it's an even distribution
but it doesn't feel like it
I think part of it is because you only remember the boons you choose to take. Perhaps Zeus and Poseidon were available more than you remember, you just didn't pick them
I think I have a slight selection bias for Artemis cause several of my best runs were with her boons
My latest best run was a combination of Ares and Artemis
it def feels for e aphriodite and dyonisus show up alot for me but i do choose them over others
Guys does anyone have that weird glitch that whenever you kill one of those large enemies (bouts I think?) their texture glitches after they die and you see 4 of them for a while?
huh
No visual bugs for me so far
cant say i have
is it with a specific weapon?
report it though
Nope lol
Maybe i should try reinstalling or something then 😂
Could be a driver problem
Oh yeahh that definitely could be it
I'm not on Nvidia's latest drivers. Still using the last set they had
Yeh, my dad uses AMD cards and I notice they have a MUCH smoother driver installation process
definitely!
also, curious, how do you get user roles? i have seen people with roles, but i dont see a self-role section anywhere
You ever look at the art of some of the gods and go “I see why mortals were so down to have sex with them all the damn time”
Literally
Nyx's voice is my fav
And then you see Zeus' portray and realize why that pervert had to usually trick women into doing it with him.
Anyway, Dusa best girl, Meg doesn't do it for me.
Oh, I'm mostly arguing based on personality.
If being a floating head somewhat factors in, I'm out too.
Same also Ares be good
well as a straight guy i can confirm dionysus is kinda sexy
Also is it me or does Aphrodite look rather trans in this game? I dig it, though
I think it's you.
i wish i could tell you but she looks like a regular goddess to me
Agreed.
The face is masculine in structure
I think the hand that's covering part of it is playing a role there.
if you mean the high cheekbones, that's typically found in plenty of races
But Athena looks more masculine to me than Aphrodite.
I have a question
Why arent all the 12 olympians in the game?
I was really hoping for apollo and maybe he would have a different duo boon mechanic with artemis
Because the game is only about Zagreus's adventure. Not all the Olympians have to get involved
cool
been playing casually since day 1 of early access, finally got out. Using the bow of all things, not my favorite. But it is now.
alright i started to overdo bald aphrodite, then i got impatient so i did rough a job around her face
are we allowed to put links in here or no
How does this game sold 1 mil copies but this discord only have 34k members
if it's Hades fan art it goes in #fan-works @ruby jay
I've almost got him... I'm so close
@final lagoon redacted?
redacted
i guess you can call it fan art
redacted
@final lagoon how many runs are u into the game
lemme check
Was that ur first time meeting redacted
Sheeeeesh
I'm curious how much of difference that post-dmg invulnerability would've made
I kinda figured it would get too easy near the end like a lot of roguelikes
so hell mode was rough early on but its not so bad anymore
It would not get too easy near the end
The difficulty cap is so much higher in this game
Than any other roguelikes I’ve played
talking about heat right?
im really happy to hear that actually bc its not a game I wanna drop anytime soon
im having so much fun with it
the combat in this game is superb
People are like 600 hours in and not completing the highest heat
Highest heat is like what
50?
63
they didn't like bald aphrodite :(
definitely rivals Binding of Isaac in terms being able to build your loadout
gonna go cry myself to sleep
63
aw man
wait who did 63
somethings is stopping the game from updating
yeah LOL
i thought max heat
fox still cant read
silly file privlages
People here talking about doing Heat, I can't even do Heat level 1. UnU
babloization @narrow hemlock
or extra oppontnes
we also have a 57 completion but routed
oh i dont think ive seen that one then 
by forgottenkane, aka forge10 here
something like that. the speedrun discord made a "mod" to route runs
but progress isnt happening
the dedication lol
I feel I take too much stupid damage from traps. 😔 I've tried Extreme Measures and more enemies but I end up failing last second on the last boss with like 4 Death Defiances. ._ .
which is weird cuz like i just downloaded the 1.0 like yesterday or the day before
imma try restarting my computer
first thing to try is perhaps completely closing out of steam and relaunchin-- or that too
if that doesnt work id suggest asking in #h1-tech-support
hey all minor spoiler: ||after the credits, I always see that the contractor has new workorders, but nothing is actually new. Does anyone have this issue?||
I have the same problem. I was even debating whether I should post it to the feedback channel to be changed, if it is not a bug.
well that is a bug @mellow finch so we should F10 it
#hades-feedback is for wishlist features 🙂
Before the 1.0 update I had beaten the Final Boss with all my weapons on 0 heat and 1-2 heat... After 1.0 my heat progress was preserved, but some boss bounties are showing up as available with 0 heat, even though I've already beaten them. Is this just a visual bug or something? Has anyone else gotten this?
Did you try completing that run to see if you got the bounties?
awww I have a fan in the ||colosseum|| 
He is our good shade 
All the best! 👍
so how does fishing work
I actually wasted 2 of em just before the fight
but we still got it done baybeeeeee
also @smoky halo random fishing spots show up in chambers sometimes. ya hit E, wait for the bobber to go down, and then hit E again
you can give whatever you catch to the chef for some stuff
like gems or keys
well how do i know where to fish
alright
you'll hear a ding after the encounter when theres a spot
Can fish be stacked between runs?
Took me a while to realize why the weapon wielding souls sometimes wander around for a while before ||respawning: they need to find a weapon before they can respawn||
yea
Didn’t realize until I let one do it on purpose that they can ||respawn with a different weapon than they originally held||
So, after completing Dusa's bond, ||she's supposed to eventually give you back 5 of the ambrosia you gave her. I happened to complete her and Meg's bonds at the same time. Then, Meg slept with me. Then, Meg told Dusa about it and Dusa was happy about it. It's now been... 15? 20? Escape attempts, and Dusa still hasn't given me the ambrosia back. Is this a bug? or might it take a really, really long time to trigger? I've encountered several single-line R1 encounters with Dusa at this point, so it feels like it's bugged....||
Does anyone know how to complete the prophecy ||where you have to beat Charon two times in a row? I've beaten him the last 3 times I tried.|| Please @ me if you have an answer, thank you! ;3
@fringe garnet That does sound like it's bugged since her bond should have top priorities and it shouldn't give one-liners until all priority lines are given. Do give it a few more runs just to be safe
Is it possible to get over 60 fps on PC?
Oh boy.. This game seems got a lot of spoilers, any good tips for beginner to advance faster?
hey when do you get the chance to use titans blood?
Huh, didn't get the Butterfly achievement
@brisk trail talk to all the people with ! on thier head and spend ur titans blood thats what i been doing and workin p good so far
@brisk trail I don't know about ways to advance faster without more context like where you're getting stuck and stuff but I think in general it pays to practice dashing, it's often your best defensive/positioning ability, make sure you know your boons so that you can use them to your advantage (I think back button or tab shows you your current boons and bonuses) and don't get greedy when fighting bosses, if you take the time to learn how the bosses behave and play defensively you'll save time and effort in the long run. There's more info in #h1-for-new-players probably
@boreal pawn ||After you unlock all the weapons if I remember correctly||
@boreal pawn Their use shall be revealed after you unlocked all weapons 
i just joined the discord and i have a question: when i start collecting keepsakes from the gods that give boons, when i got down to one god left, i never see any of that god's boons again to get his keepsake. is that just really bad rng, or designed that was for some reason?
Really bad Rng
Try to keep god neutral keepsakes so you don't accidentally shut them out of your run
And purge boons from other gods to make room for them
mmk. this has happened on two save files. i stopped playing the first cause i felt i spent all my starting blood on a bad aspect.
the first time, i think athena or ares stopped showing for me. this time its zeus
yea just wait it out, he'll come eventually
are rerolls per chamber or per run?
Yo gamers, where do ya think this game ranks with the other rogue likes? Or is it too early to say?
In terms of what?
name
o yikes
@sterile frigate There is no such thing as a "bad" aspect. All aspects are extremely viable at high heats (though some work better than others). All it takes is a good amount of practice and time in the weapons and a good idea on what boons work with the weapon
i haven't unlocked heat
i think comparing roguelikes is a futile effort
hades is nothing like spelunky is nothing like into the breach is nothing like sunless skies
I do think that there are some aspects that suit different playstyles better than others
I mean you can but ya just gotta narrow it down
like I'm naturally better at being a dashy boi so I'm not great with shield b/c I'm not comfortable blocking
like as far as difficulty scaling, Hades seems to be one of the best
most roguelikes feel too easy to me once I've played long enough
I dont see that happening with this
Yeah I get what ya mean