Gems are almost only for cosmetic upgrades, but yea I'd focus on getting darkness/keys over gems
#h1-discussion
karmic ibex
maiden spear
Is it worth playing now? Or should I wait till 1.0
stiff trellis
It's as good as a finished game right now imo
karmic ibex
I believe the finale is going to come out next patch which is the release patch
karmic ibex
But in terms of gameplay, I'd assume almost the entire gameplay experience is out so far.
stiff trellis
It's been a long journey but it's been well worth the time spent
delicate willow
wish there was an easier way to farm lots of gems besides hoping for gem farming boons
karmic ibex
There is ways to earn more gems later on
I first played like 2 years ago around the end of November when the Hydra was the last boss
delicate willow
what how
maiden spear
I bought the game on the epic store ages ago, but for a game like this I would like achievements, something the EGS doesn't have yet. I'm considering to buy it again on steam.
delicate willow
i have 93 hours on it and besides from boons i dont know how else to boost my gem gains
unless im missing something
karmic ibex
|| Fishing rod, some fishes give gems when you give them to chef. Gem chests give gems (obviously) ||
delicate willow
yeah and those
karmic ibex
Apart from those, I believe those are the only ways
delicate willow
at least you can buy gems now in charon shops too
karmic ibex
Yeah that too
Anyway, I'm gonna do some more legendary bow runs then try out the fists
Any goods builds I should aim for on fists?
tiny fiber
zeus on attack and everything that comes with that provides you with lots of dps on fists
karmic ibex
I guess I'll give that a go. I'm pretty sceptical because you have to be so close to the enemies
stiff trellis
Athena on attack makes you absurdly tanky
Especially if you run hermes keepsake and get greater evasion with zag aspect
karmic ibex
I'd also assume Ares Athena would work well with it?
stiff trellis
I've ended runs with 60% dodge before thanks to fists
I neglect ares a lot tbh
What does ares athena give?
hollow heron
Ares starts with A therefore he's top tier
dawn tiger
Athena/Ares makes deflect trigger doom early
hollow heron
(Ares attack is legitimately the best solo dps option on zag fists)
karmic ibex
Yea, Ares/Athena has always been great
stiff trellis
It is?
hollow heron
Yep
stiff trellis
I should give that a try then
karmic ibex
Zeus legendary would probably be the only one that can come close to achieving same damage output right?
hollow heron
Go chat to nya if you want to play fists seriously
karmic ibex
or similar
hollow heron
There's a couple other gods that are better with some T2s iirc
stiff trellis
Also this should probably be taken to #h1-builds-and-combat
hollow heron
But T1 only, Ares is best
karmic ibex
Is there any fist builds that'd be similar or better in damage output than Ares/Athena?
hollow heron
I wasn't referring to Ares/Athena, that's a really hard build to math useful numbers for
hollow heron
Ares is the best for single target dps
You can do the maths
Also decent for multitarget
karmic ibex
With legendary bow, Ares Athena special becomes actually good for aoe
tiny bobcat
Update didn't help with performance issues to be honest :/
Two update before, it was just running fine
Before hell got that all effects
karmic ibex
works fine for me, probably your end
granite ether
are your graphic drivers up to date?
tiny bobcat
drivers are ok, but I'm on the minimum side. maybe that's it
balmy goblet
can we just apperciate how well the music changes when you defeat the furies?
i've done this fight like a 100+ times and i'm still in awe of that riff
granite ether
the riff is glorious :3
stiff trellis
The riff is honestly amazing
granite ether
need to remember to ask what genre Darren would label the Hades ost next he's on a Q+A
balmy goblet
it's darren genre tbh
granite ether
because the ones he did for Bastion and Transistor, maybe Pyre (I don't remember) are awesome
stiff trellis
Pyre has fantastic music
balmy goblet
all supergiant games do
stiff trellis
Yep!
balmy goblet
if i'm not mistaken they built the games around the music since day one
there was a talk from Darren I believe
that they would often build the aesthetic and gameplay rhytm based on the music
and it god damn shows
stiff trellis
Yup!
balmy goblet
honestly they mastered it, maybe there's no single track that would be so memorable (like with Build That Wall) but instead they did each stage music perfectly
granite ether
Bastion: acoustic frontier trip-hop
Transistor: Old-world Electronic Post-rock
stiff trellis
For bastion, they made the theme for the home area before they finished the art
Pyre: Yes
versed dagger
What's your opinion of Support fire?
floral shore
Somewhere between worthless and fantastic? The faster you attack the better it becomes.
On Chaos Shield it's pretty much garbage, on Rail 4 it's absolutely amazing.
karmic ibex
Support Fire is really good for rail attack, probably good for fists as well
apart from that it's mediocre or useless
versed dagger
What do people think about god mode?
karmic ibex
haven't tried it
floral shore
Never used it myself but for people that are really interested in the story or just appreciate the help - why not.
karmic ibex
Anyone know how Zeus special works with leg aspect bow? When I use it, it looks like the lightning effects are activating multiple times with each arrow, but the lightning damage that shows seems to only show the damage as if only one lightning bolt when off. Like with a single hit special attack for one of the weapons, the lightning effect would hit once then deal 60. But with the leg aspect for bow, all the arrows hit and it says that it dealt 60 damage.
Is the 60 damage split between all the arrows, or is it actually doing the 60 damage multiple times and just not showing it?
Also I've noticed that legendary Zeus boon also only shoots out one bolt when multiple arrows from the bow special hit.
Yea, the lightning bolt only seems to activated once per flurry of arrows :/
winged bear
Finally got a chaos fishing spawn
Just happened to be running tight deadline and left the chamber before I even realised it was there
karmic ibex
oof
swift osprey
Is the appearance of ||the Charon fight|| completely random? Or is there some way to trigger it?
karmic ibex
new boss is a spoiler so try to spoiler tag it, but yes there is a random chance for it to appear each run
I believe someone said earlier that it was a 22% chance or something
swift osprey
It was mentioned plainly in the update video, so I figured no spoiler needed, but changed it.
22% per shop?
karmic ibex
per run
karmic ibex
i need 5 more
stiff trellis
Leg aspect made me think of a bow that has a leg design and the mental image of zagreus holding that is killing me
vale kite
(charon appearance) ||it's a 22% chance of finding his bag in mid-biome shops once you beat hades at least once, it can still appear later in a run if you ignore it but otherwise it only appears once||
stiff trellis
||Discovering it was great. I love Zag's half-hearted attempt to play innocent||
compact heath
yo are we going to have an ending soon?
vale kite
1.0 will be the next update so yes
pulsar tundra
i was in Styx and my game crashed and when I logged back, it threw me back into the house 
torpid walrus
did the guan yu special get a damage nerf or something?
glass pond
@pulsar tundra if you go into your save folder there is likely a backup save file that is most of the way through your run
winged bear
Is it me or is the fishing timing really tight?
Maybe it’s having it on the shoulder button
torpid walrus
It's either tight or you have to fish at some particular time that's not super obvious because I never got a tier 3 fish of any kind yet
winged bear
The wiki says it’s something like 0.3 seconds for a chance at a legendary
hearty mulch
Can I get another attack buff if I sell my attack buff?
does anyone know?
nvm you can
winged bear
You mean will it go back in the pool? Yes
dreamy roost
wrt fishing, for mouse users I have a tip of putting your mouse cursor over the bobber. Don't look at it, as it's a bait both in pressing too early and too late. What you want to do is look for the white line that flashes vertically up from the bobber and press when you see that. Don't use sound queues either.
If you're not using a mouse, I suggest the same thing with looking for the white line
Note: the line can be harder to see in Elysium, but it's still there
novel wasp
Also hey thanks SSG for changing the new Artemis arrow, now the effect looks less like paper planes in the new one, and retains the trail but not as MS Paint looking as the old one, I love the new Artemis cast arrows very much!
sharp parcel
I liked paper planes...
novel wasp
its ugly
i actually loved when they have trails
especially in the call ones because they look powerless imo
it works if its the cast but call feels so weird
narrow hemlock
@jaunty marsh do you have vibration on your controller? helps tremendously with fishing
narrow hemlock
there's two vibrations for fishing, a really light one, and a more distinct vibrate when a fish it on the line
you dont even have to watch the screen, just pay attention to the vibration and hit the button once the actual vibration triggers
jaunty marsh
oh, btw
will play Hades right now the first time since January 26
hyped for The Blood Price
gonna check it out
thanks @narrow hemlock !!!
narrow hemlock
enjoy, a lot has changed since january
jaunty marsh
and thanks once again :))
rapid bear
silent harbor
can someone give me a clear breakdown of what Fated Authority rerolls? I know you can't reroll some things into others but idk the details.
vast junco
it's pretty much tied to the type of chamber reward (gold laurel for run-exclusive resources and boons, etc., and blue laurel for meta resources like darkness and gems) https://discordapp.com/channels/456889434672201729/520688402958516254/660997126800539658
that link shows a general graph for those laurel distinctions
so you cannot reroll a blue into a gold chamber
or vice versa
two of the gray sections in the image have a roll (x) to indicate that these chambers cannot be rerolled
though, i think i have rerolled hidden reward chaos-affected chambers before. not that it makes much of a difference, since you won't know what it is either way
silent harbor
Oof I had never really noticed the chambers were gold or blue, thank you so much
vast junco
of course, glad to help!
lavish comet
Can I say something about Eurydice?
She sings very beautifully... Who's the singer behind the character? I'd like to appreciate and thank to her/him/them
floral shore
Ashley Barrett if I'm not mistaken.
narrow hemlock
Twitter
vast junco
she's voiced dialogue-wise by francesca hogan, as well
lavish comet
Thank you!
https://twitter.com/ashbarrett
@narrow hemlock Thank you! 😊
Twitter
narrow hemlock
orpheus and eurydice both have different speaking and singing actors, you can find the credits in the title menu https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/698728164532420770/701123658923507785/20200313165108_1.jpg
lavish comet
Ooooh neat-o! 😵
thorny arrow
Man this game is beautiful. Idk but the color saturation looks really nice on my monitor on par with Ori or hollow knight
Props to whoever on the team is responsible for the recent VFX changes
strange junco
Are there any good content creators for hades that do guides and tips
floral shore
Jawless Paul has a couple guides for various topics in various states of outdatedness due to the evolving nature of the game, Haelian or DaddyDeGrand are great if you want to watch people who are just really good at the game.
jaunty marsh
@floral shore I got the way Curse of Longing works
So it doesn't matter if you apply Weak before Doom or apply Weak when Doom marked a target but didn't deal damage yet
It will still tick Doom till the certain damage reduction
sharp parcel
the funniest thing is that Darren Korb voices both Skelly and Zag
and he did all the music
jaunty marsh
and he did all the music
@sharp parcel Darren is wholesome, c'mon
floral shore
Copy that, @jaunty marsh . I wasn't entirely sure if you had to have the weak on at the moment you apply or the moment it ticks.
sharp parcel
I mean, he's done all of SGG's music
floral shore
Also at 50% that sounds kinda juicy now.
jaunty marsh
Also at 50% that sounds kinda juicy now.
@floral shore indeed it is
heavy pendant
I've died to the new hydra twice
(For context, I swapped from controller to mouse and keyboard, I haven't played since march, and I was on heat 19)
past mirage
No shame in that, Lernie has really stepped up its (her?) game.
worthy egret
I almost got heckled by its waves today so
jaunty marsh
I've died to the new hydra twice
@heavy pendant no surprise, fam
they changed hydra so much
the waves were kinda pain in the a*se before, but now they are way worse comparing to back then if I recall correctly
yooo i censored it
whyy
rough token
I haven't quite died to Hydra, but it's definitely been very close a couple times
past mirage
Those Rakers got me good when I first met the new hydra.
rough token
They've actually been less of an issue for me recently, surprisingly
jaunty marsh
and the long break issues are understandable
like i ventured up to Theseus and Minotaur on the forth try after starting playing again (which was today)
well they beat the heck out of me, yes, but I am glad that I went so far that fast
skills are still with me
lavish comet
Oooh that damned Hydra! The best gods combo was Artemins, Poseidon, Hermes and that wine-bro god. It was crazy with these combined LOL
Especially Hermes' speed dash. It was godly
jaunty marsh
by the time I got to hydra I already got double dash from the mirror upgrade
i defeated hydra like it was nothing
My build was Doom on attack, Weak on special and dash, plus Ares/Aphrodite duo boon and vampiric Stygian Blade
thorny arrow
Whats the "ding" sound that I hear after I clear a room
it only happens sometimes I think
thorny arrow
oh my god
ive missed like... 20 of them
then
please tell me you're trolling me
I thought it was a trove or a perfect clear or something xP
quaint bramble
Troves have their own sound effect I think
jaunty marsh
It’s a ||fishing spot||
@quaint bramble are you sure?
Like I hear that sound too, but I am not able to fish yet cause I started a New walkthrough
thorny arrow
Well I found it in the room that dinged for me
quaint bramble
Do you have a keepsake equipped that activates on a particular room clear? Feather or butterfly?
Those makes sounds too I think Ryogo
jaunty marsh
no, I got nyx's shawl
quaint bramble
||Chaos Gates|| make sounds as well. This is why the game needs a waypoint system to tell you what’s of note in the room. If you check and don’t see anything then prob 
it as a bug.
jaunty marsh
nah, they are not yet available for me as well
(is there anyone who doesnt know about those yet?)
uhh
xd
well my guess was that it is a sound when clearing a boon-reward room
heavy pendant
@jaunty marsh @rough token I've got extreme measures on, that didnt help
what really screwed me over was the swap from controller to keyboard and mouse
jaunty marsh
yeah, I guess so
heavy pendant
I lost all three DD's before Hydra, then did a run with Controller and made it all the way to Theseus without losing one
jaunty marsh
bask in the glory that is KB&M
@sharp parcel HERESY!!!
narrow hemlock
eh controlling the game feels better for me with controller, though i have to utilize kbm for rail or else i hate it. depends on the game, some stuff i prefer controller, some stuff i prefer kbm. i actually prefer assassins creed kbm than controller, for instance lol. but i dont like hades on kbm that much
vast junco
yeah, for me controller works wonderfully except for the specific cases of rail special and trippy shot aiming, which is more awkward
but it's not usually a big deal
rough token
I've got extreme measures on, that didnt help
@heavy pendant
It still makes the fight harder, but I've worried a little bit less about the rakers than before
twilit void
Say you start the escape and you get a Dionysus boon or something you don’t want, can you restart and get a different one?
rough token
If you Give Up it will keep the seed, and you could use a God's Keepsake to change who you start with
twilit void
How do I get gods keepsake, by giving them nectar?
rough token
o7
celest pilot
was enjoying the game before the latest patch, but the difficulty level feels like it's spiked so high now - ||if I hadn't got Hades down before the patch I doubt I would carry on||
twilit void
And I have three Titan blood when do I get to use them?
celest pilot
haven't got ||Hades|| once since the patch
rough token
Once you've unlocked every weapon
celest pilot
just me - or other finding the same ?
twilit void
I get god keepsakes by giving them nectar?
rough token
Yup
twilit void
Ok
dense torrent
Oh I find this update to be way tougher than before the patch SpoonUnit
twilit void
I keep giving Charon nectar idk why does it do anything?
celest pilot
ok - not just me - well that's something
rough token
He probably likes you more :P
dense torrent
Did he give you the bone hourglass Corgi?
celest pilot
maybe it'll change back for the final release
dense torrent
Yeah I got whacked for 80 damage and chased by an impervious chariot so it ate my HP so I'm hoping it gets a little easier
celest pilot
||when you feel there's no hope - the game looses its sheen||
can get to end boss pretty much every time ||- but feel powerless against him||
rough token
Final boss is considering a spoiler in this channel
rough token
Can use spoiler tags (|| boss ||) or say Redacted
gusty slate
Final boss is zag's stubborness
celest pilot
I kinda want help - but I don't because that'll spoil it
rough token
celest pilot
back to the grdinstone I guess 🙂
rough token
:P
rough token
There's a whole channel for discussing combat
Ah, fair enough
Could you edit your message though?
celest pilot
sure
celest pilot
I'm just crying the tears he wants me to cry - haha
celest pilot
there's a river or two full of em
gusty slate
I just need Asterius to stop bullying me 😦
rough token
bullying?
gusty slate
If the game had a most DD's lost stat, it'll be Asterius for me LOL
celest pilot
DD ?
dense torrent
Do you guys deal with asterius first or theseus
rough token
Probably best moved to #h1-builds-and-combat
gusty slate
Death Defiance
celest pilot
ah yeh
known in other games as 'lives' 🙂
would make a good stat
is there a stats page somewhere ?
gusty slate
Erm, there are 2 stat things, unlocked through contractor
gusty slate
eeyup
rough token
Best of luck! Have fun storming the underworld!
gusty slate
All fun and games until the flamewheel army attacks
celest pilot
i bought this almost the moment it came out, played for a week, then forgot about - just started again about a week ago - and totally into it now
so well polished
gusty slate
I was pleasantly surprised for an EA, very polished. v1.0 sometime later this year is also exciting
celest pilot
it's a really interesting take on the rogueish thing
gusty slate
godlike
celest pilot
hmm - the settings do have that GodMode ... too
that's looked more and more tempting ...
must resist
gusty slate
Gotta farm more titan blood....
silent harbor
I know GodMode is great to help people who are struggling, but let yourself struggle a bit first, see if you can overcome that
gusty slate
GodMode isn't bad to learn attack patterns too however if one wants to practice a boss for instance
celest pilot
there's only so much Titan Blood you can get before you got over that first hurdle
so if the hurdle is too high - getting more is challenging
I guess the shop's there too
but yeh
silent harbor
I can't remember needing a whole bunch of titan blood myself! I guess I'd stockpiled some resources earlier on
I mean you need it but, I've got my unlocks covered
celest pilot
maybe you're just great at this sort of game 🙂
gusty slate
Eh, when one wants to maxgrade all aspects, well... you slowly turn into despair
celest pilot
dexterity certainly needs to be pretty high
silent harbor
oh not at all, I struggled through, I'm at about 90 escapes
gusty slate
Took me 30-40 for that sweet first clear, did with fist because my playstyle is super aggressive
silent harbor
oh yeah also a thing that made the struggle easier on me was my first 'clears' were only vs boss #2, now theres more bosses.
plush flax
Is the "A Friendly Wager" prophecy bugged? I've won the fight the last 3 times I get it, and nothing
rough token
I'd f10 that
deep geode
Just got my first clear on 26th attempt by cheesing him with rail bombs
silent harbor
mine was iffy too, I'd won 1, heard about the prophecy from that certain person, then won another without getting it. won another after that and got the prophecy
silent harbor
great job, I find rail bombs are kinda hard vs end boss!
deep geode
My whole build was tempest flourish + hazard bomb
rough token
Hahaha, nice
gusty slate
I use swiss because I have tons of holes by the time I clear
rough token
That's a bit sharp
celest pilot
boo-boom
gusty slate
Haven't tried a dash build yet though
rough token
Oof, I remember beating the second boss with just blade dash
celest pilot
think my first was with the shield
or possibly the sword
no - the shield and the gloves
lofty dragon
First clear was with rail gun hangover shots, pretty strong
gusty slate
Rail with Aphrodite legendary is hilarious
rough token
I think my first was either some jank build with the spear, or a cheese build with the shield
deep geode
One time I almost killed him with a boon that charged 1% god meter per second and Hermes' boon that gave like 50% dodge chance after using call
rough token
13th attempt iirc
gusty slate
Zag fist + ruthless dash + epic Hermes dodge + plume near maxed fun times
celest pilot
grab you with chains
opal frigate
twilit void
How do you unlock calls?
lyric umbra
I see that there's always a good reason to have multiple Olympians helping you out, especially now with no many DUO boons available.
I was wondering, for discussion: would make sense for the game to provide benefits for single-Olympian builds? In form of some ultra-legendary boon that can be only active when you have just one God helping you out, for instance. Or something else.
primal whale
calls are unlocked after quite a bit of game time, at least from what I remember, which is what leads to actually remembering to use them a little bit difficult
rough token
I don't know that they need built-in synergy for that, since getting so many boons from a single God is already very powerful
primal whale
im sure there are actual gameplay triggers for it, but i remember it taking a while till they were unlocked
primal whale
I think Legendary boons are already the mechanic for that
lyric umbra
I was thinking about something that you lose if you ever get the help of a second god. That would give an interesting twist when rerolling chambers
rough token
That's something you could mention in #hades-feedback as well as here, to make sure the devs see it
Anyway, I'm off! Best of luck y'all!
quasi sleet
IMO legendary boons and self-synergy boons do that well enough, maybe there could be more boons that are based around buffing other boons from the same god, like how artemis has stuff that buffs crits, athena buffs deflect, etc
torpid walrus
does anyone know the requirements for ares/dio duo?
twilit void
How do I unlock and get calls?
torpid walrus
there's nothing special you have to do, just play the game
upbeat rivet
Hey, just managed to give artémis some ambrosia, what does having an impenetrable bond means ? Doesn't seem to have affected the trinket
violet oasis
just means youve maxed out rep with her @upbeat rivet
upbeat rivet
okay thanks
violet oasis
you'll see that when you have completed a character's rep that they will each have some kind of phrase of that kind
granite ether
@queen fog in regards to your most recent post in #hades-feedback; please report in game bugs/glitches/typos using the in game bug reporter (F10), The feedback channel is not for reporting such things
lament hawk
Hey guys, I have a fishing pro-tip for anyone that sometimes psyches themselves into hitting the button early and missing a fish:
Instead of just holding your finger on the button, lovingly caress the button from left to right after you cast and it gives your mind just that extra split second worth of thinking time to never reel in early. (Disclaimer: maybe this is a placebo but I have gone from 80% to 100% fishing success)
craggy raptor
What's the channel for submitting issues (found a tiny spelling error)
granite ether
use the in game bug reporter (F10) for things like that
queen fog
ahh sorry
solar coral
So rolling knuckle makes all attacks dash attack?
Because either it isn’t working as intended or the description doesn’t explain it very well
gusty slate
Isn't rolling knuckle where an extra attack is added to the combo
where that extra attack is considered a dash attack
solar coral
“Your dash strike deals +x% damage and occurs when you Attack”
Makes it sound like attack -> dash strike
granite ether
so what happens is, your dash strike deals +60% damage and adds a dash strike at the end of the combo
so the description isn't accurate as it is right now
novel wasp
Tbh guys
Where is aim assist i cant find it in option 
I wanna turn it off because my rail bombs keep getting into the way
hollow halo
controls
near the top
took anvil on excalibur run and got cursed slash 
still won but it was closer than id like it to be
deep pivot
novel wasp
Huh. I already turned it off
But how come the bombs still softlocks perfectly at enemies
Because sometimes i wanna throw it between enemies but it automatically locked on one of the two enemies
rough token
controller or M&K?
hollow heron
Kbm
static wing
going to leave this here but artemis is best girl
lament hawk
Just finished asphodel, wanted to switch from myrmidon bracer to feather duster, but the duster shows as locked. Never seen that before, what's up edit: Expired?
dawn tiger
If you used it in a prior zone and swap out you can’t use it anymore
lament hawk
Ohhh okay, I had accidentally started with it and then moved to bracer
Had never seen that before
dawn tiger
I guess it’s in part due to how godly keepsakes work
But yeah, it’s a quirk or the game
lament hawk
Thanks!
sick folio
to get better with the lyre, all you have to do is use it over and over, right?
glad lichen
Yes.
lament hawk
All at once or like once per run or does every strum count no matter when
narrow hemlock
takes ||about 210 iirc||
main dawn
yo i finally beat the game after 9 hours with aegis, what weapon you guys use for first time victory?
dreamy roost
Oh jeez, I don't remember. That's a great question. Maybe the sword? Congrats on your first win!
It only gets more fun from here
calm stirrup
Shield was my first two escapes
granite ether
sword was mine I think
congrats on your first win, the first of many ^_^
main dawn
i find it more easier on shield because it's simply can block
other weapon feels more hard, because you need to evade tho
main dawn
oh nice, maybe i'll try sword next
hearty torrent
Zag Sword for me too.
vital dragon
My favorite weapon has to be Nemesis Sword
Since it's just so nice to see big numbers pop up
But my FIRST completion recently (restarted a save) was with Twin Fists
ionic zephyr
using athena boons can give other weapons pseudo blocks
I'm a huge fan of athena dash and cast personally
dashing into danger to reflect it back is just too cool
vital dragon
Yeah that's fair
My answer to hades is always just damage
I don't need defense if I literally just kill everything
BUT I will admit that Athena dash makes the game way easier
hollow heron
Heck hmm
Uhh
Damage is good
Depends a lot on situation
Athena dash is just generally crazy good
nimble ocean
my first was the rail.. aspect of Zag
actually i tried not to beat FB for a long time, was afraid of the local ending
hollow halo
i believe i first beat the game on a sword run but ill have to double check
nimble ocean
good old times, when triple special with Arty's crits were devastating
also, fists are pretty easy to get through the game, but not on FB
well, as any melee weapon
fading gazelle
I mean I finished my first clear before I unlocked any weapons
novel wasp
same
fading gazelle
I mean I think I unlocked the bow but I still used the sword
novel wasp
I started a second save with better knowledge and beat the game first try
with zag sword
hollow halo
i made it to elysium and died on my second run
the moment i unlocked the 40% damage buff i beat the game
fading gazelle
Nice
dreamy roost
I actually went and checked (it was a lot of clicking). My first 70 runs are completely redacted, I'm guessing because it was the first days of early access of Epic and they just weren't recording the info. The first win I can actually check though was with the bow.
hollow halo
i just wasnt doing enough damage
fading gazelle
It's redacted on steam as well
dreamy roost
Oh, I'm checking on Steam. I was saying that when it was Epic exclusive in those first days it probably just wasn't recording data, which is why it's all redacted. The saves straight don't know
hollow halo
the final boss of the game, the scp foundation
dreamy roost
That's my guess at least. otherwise, no idea why it's all redacted
narrow hemlock
all zag aspects show up as redacted in the records
dreamy roost
Oh, but I mean everything redacted, like so: https://i.imgur.com/rexneSC.png
I can't even tell what weapon, if I won, etc.
narrow hemlock
it is a mystery.png
dreamy roost
Yeah, so I'll never know what I first won on. But escape #70 I won with a bow, at least
vital dragon
The evil is defeated
regal junco
If they dont at some point patch in Zag saying "So, no head?" after beating lernie imm abe angry
buoyant merlin
Does maxing your relationship with someone upgrade their keepsake? I noticed quotes start to appear in the keepsake cabinet, wasn't sure if there was anything after that.
flat vapor
nah, the quotes are just flavor
novel wasp
very flavory
buoyant merlin
you get the bonus from shattered shackle as long as the boons don't fill up those top 3 slots on the middle left right?
vital dragon
@buoyant merlin Specifically, you get the bonus for the SPECIFIC thing that doesn't have it
So for example, if your attack is empty but your special and cast have a boon
your attack still gets the shackle damage
but the special and cast do not
(the check for the boon and getting the bonus damage is separate for each one)
buoyant merlin
cool.
So getting that Ares skill that slightly increases your damage for everything would not forfeit the bonus?
vital dragon
Nope
flat vapor
nope
novel wasp
Ok so basically
vital dragon
It only checks if the slot for the Attack/Special/Cast boon are taken
novel wasp
as long as your don't have the modifier for your attack special cast
vital dragon
Boons that affect your Attack/Special/Cast but don't take those slots do not forfeit the bonus
novel wasp
you get bonus damage from shackle
vital dragon
SO yes, you can stack all sorts of bonus damage to your stuff via chaos gates, god boons, or even hammer upgrades
narrow hemlock
would be simpler to just point out that as long as your primary slots on the side of the screen are empty that's added to bonus
novel wasp
yes however god boons is less likely since a lot of the god boon (the passive ones that isnt modifier) requires the modifier to be unlocked to begin with
narrow hemlock
like yes that's your atk/special/cast but visually if those slots have nothing there, boom, bonus.
vital dragon
Boom bonus
narrow hemlock
yeah
novel wasp
boomboom bonus
narrow hemlock
I'm hella tired and words are hard
buoyant merlin
^
Supergiant developers after writing 40 thousand lines of dialogue for talking to a single character
First impressions are everything, the first 8 hours of Hades were something else with how everyone kept talking about what weapon you were using or how much health you have
I'm really not sure where it's gonna go from here. Is the game gonna have a brand new hub for levels that take place after hades? Is it just a new area?
buoyant merlin
ooo gotcha
narrow hemlock
check greg's posts in this thread in regards to content post final boss (spoilers obviously @ anyone who hasn't gotten that far) ||https://steamcommunity.com/app/1145360/discussions/0/2568689796938951223/||
narrow hemlock
I lurk the steam forum fairly frequently
buoyant merlin
narrow hemlock
ahead of you
void vigil
thank you 
buoyant merlin
I do hope that we get envornmental shake ups. I put one in feedback but it got downvoted to oblivion. (I wanted a poison variant for area 2)
narrow hemlock
but yeah if greg says anything interesting on steam I will usually see it and throw it here bc I know most people don't check the forums much
everyone hates poison, is why
I find poison to be a nuisance
buoyant merlin
I doubt you'll find anyone who thinks its a blessing
narrow hemlock
it's not even incorporated in what I would consider an interesting or challenging way. it's so easy to lose track of what's going on so you're not always going to avoid all the poison puddles from rats (which sucks in tiny rooms when there's like 3 rats) or the projectiles from satyrs, which are too fast to keep track of when you're doing other stuff. it's just annoying and not fun
poison has long been a point of controversy around here lol
west chasm
Poison sucks because Hades of all games doesn't really have a philosophy of "don't get hit" beyond the fact you take damage
It's what makes, say, Dead Cells feel boring once you hit higher difficulties and Malaise is literally everywhere
narrow hemlock
lava is also often a point of controversy but on the flip side I still generally have a better shot at avoiding lava in em hydra than I do poison in a tiny styx room full of big rats
valid citrus
Is it even possible to get poisoned by rat puddles... I always stay right on top of them while they spread the disease to the area around them and nothing happens to me shrug
granite ether
Yes, it sucks
west chasm
My issue with lava is that fricking boats don't have any safety limits
Like, if you have too much speed you kinda just run past them
granite ether
Poison wouldn't be as bad if it didn't stack or had more time between procs
valid citrus
It stacks? I know old poison ticked up overtime but since then I've never seen anything bigger than 1 dmg per tick
granite ether
Yes, poison stacks its the worst and I heavily dislike it
valid citrus
Guess I should drown myself in some acid next time to see how bad it is
(we do however not encourage nor condone self-harm in this underworld)
I find lava a lot more annoying than poison tbh
At least with what I'm playing on (KB+M)
hollow halo
poison ticks up over time yes
itsvery satisfying to hit the deflect and poison the satyr though
valid citrus
You mean tickling them to death
hollow halo
actually no it does pretty sizable damage
especially if youre focusing on a bother on the other side of the room while a satyr is attacking you
buoyant merlin
I'm excited to see what the final weapon for the fists are. Though I usually don't like the movesets for those as much. Sometimes I'm in the mood to wield arthur thou
The Bow is the only weapon that just doesn't feel right no matter how much I try to use it
hollow halo
aspect of man who punch really hard
mark my words
god can you imagine how out of left field it would be if it was
aspect of mario
buoyant merlin
A one punch man weapon?
buoyant merlin
But you also die in one hit and have reduced movement speed
vital dragon
We had a talk in #h1-story-discussion about the Gloves aspect being the Aspect of Thor
brisk trail
if you run a weapon at say heat 8 (for one of the quest rewards) do you forfeit the bounty rewards for running that weapon at lower heats?
vital dragon
since every 4th aspect seems to be form a different mythos
buoyant merlin
thats a really good question JT and hopefully someone here knows the answer cause ive been wondering too
vital dragon
So it "forfets" the highest non cleared heat
hollow halo
can confidently say bounties only reset after you win
vital dragon
say you cleared heat 3.
And then ran heat 10
if you finish on heat ten
the game "treats" it as if you ran heat 4 for the purposes of rewards
Rinse repeat until the game says you need heat 11 to get rewards
brisk trail
oh I see
hollow halo
titans blood is hard enough to get as it is
buoyant merlin
awesome thanks. thats how I was hoping it worked
brisk trail
so basically just don't lose lol
hollow halo
i mean you can lose
brisk trail
i know me too lol
brisk trail
man divine dash is such a crutch for me
sweet flax
Zagreus is like kind-hearted Dante and I love it. Good job on making distinctive characters.
sonic bridge
How do you trigger the charon fight?
sweet flax
Does it change throughout the game? I ve recently smashed Hydra and got wrecked by Minotaur-forgot-his-name in Elysium. Soundtrack is very invigorative. My metalhead is satisfied.
quick vector
what are good builds for arthur?
buoyant merlin
Not sure about an entire build but when I use arthur I try and get some Helios buffs that give me increased attack and special speed.
worthy egret
Hermes but yeah thats good
@quick vector for the aspect of truck, try getting artemis attack and hermes attack speed
regal flower
Hello guys, just bought the game this weekend, loved it, so I figured I should come here :)
I have a tiny little "bug" feedback to give, it's not gameplay but a font issue, so I've got a screenshot but I wondered where and if it was okay to share it ?
void vigil
you can report bugs with F10 in game!
warm schooner
Can I delete the tech beta on Epic safely?
hollow hazel
I absolutely hate how the controller no longer seems to aim correctly, multiple times it has caused me to take unnecessary damage, and now letting enemies reform on Elysium because instead of aiming to the northeast Zagreas can only seem to aim to the left of them and just continually attack there. Especially with the spear. It's slowly killing me.
Nope, quitting this run, this is ridiculous, I can't even line up enemies and get them at an odd angle anymore because ANY input from the analog stick aims Zag in a completely wrong direction, and if I don't input at all, he aims directly at the enemy. I guess I just can't use the spear anymore for the time being, or the bow, or the railgun. Like, unless this is on my side, which I assume it isn't since it hadn't been a problem at all in the past, and I've heard mentions of controller aiming being fairly broke with the new patch. I just need to take a break and cool off. I can't enjoy the game right now.
buoyant merlin
I haven't noticed anything different. It's never been perfect though, hopefully it gets improved some more. Though I know and appreciate all of the time they have put into it already.
fading gazelle
Do you usually play with the gamepad or is this run just special?
hollow hazel
I love the game normally, but it's just a constant losing fight in Elysium as it currently is. I mean, sure, I could try to use mouse and keyboard, but I'm so used to gamepad and tend to prefer that over keyboard when there's not a clear advantage over one or the other in a game I play, I could use mouse and keyboard, but my set up is janky and uncomfortable since I have to lean forward to use mouse, so I tend to avoid it if I can. But the gamepad is impossible to play with currently. Even in the fight against the furies I ended up using a Death Defy, which almost never happens against them. And I had like, 200 something max hp in that fight.
I don't think Elysium is particularly too easy, I almost think the game as a whole is almost too easy, so it's nice to not be guaranteed an easy floor in Elysium, when Styx is sort of hit or miss on its own, and I almost find that floor too easy at times as well. But currently it feels like I don't have the control I normally do, and it's frustrating losing too unfriendly controls unless it's intended and it's a mechanic of the game, which it really isn't in Hades.
karmic ibex
@hollow hazel I haven't really noticed any issues with auto aiming and ranged weapons. I've been playing ranged weapons pretty much since I first started playing the game and I don't think I've noticed any differences between how the aiming is this patch compared to last patch.
hollow hazel
I prefer ranged weapons, the bow is my favorite weapon, my first ever weapon that I really enjoyed was spear, railgun was initially fun, but never really warmed up to me, and with all that time, never have I had such an issue with aiming as I did today. I would be holding the analog stick towards enemies and it would refuse to aim where I was holding it, like, it wasn't even close. I don't know what it could be
karmic ibex
thats weird
hollow hazel
Yeah, I mean, I assumed it was the game, since I had heard about analog, auto-aiming being less accurate now, but admittedly that was a couple days ago, but I hadn't heard about anything new since so I figured it was still broken, but admittedly I have no idea. I was also just irritated at the game so my immediate thought was to blame the game lol.
karmic ibex
maybe it was auto aiming at an enemy that was in the same direction?
I was just doing furies and near the end and it was aiming slightly off of where the fury was. Although I assume it was aiming at a minion that Meg has spawned.
hollow hazel
It would actively aim away from the monsters closest to me, so I don't see how that could be the case, but I think I'm going to head to bed, possibly try it again tomorrow on my day off, see if the problem persists. Admittedly I use DS4, because not all games have PS4 controller support, or it's unreliable, which has been the case a couple times, with Hades as well, so it's entirely possible something went wrong there, but I have no way to tell without more information. I guess I'll see if it persists tomorrow... Well, later today, considering it's almost 4 in the morning here. lol
karmic ibex
Ok cya mate
grim sinew
Did Hades got much more difficult since the time I bought it on release on Steam? Because it feels much more difficult, boons are worse, I feel like I do less dmg and take more...
karmic ibex
If he is, then I'd assume the changes would be in the patch notes.
karmic ibex
Ah, possibly.
grim sinew
I played it around Christmass, and got through the game multiple times after few tries
karmic ibex
I haven't noticed myself, but I think I saw someone say that it seemed harder.
grim sinew
now I am at 15 attempts, and still havent gotten through elysium
grim sinew
well, this might be the run, got 130 doom on attack and splintering arrows
nimble ocean
idk what's happening. when i was trying to make a run with 8 heat, it was challenging, but i've done it in first try. then with TD i've picked Feather, fists and ran through everything screaming and facetanking. first try as well. now i try to do 2 heat with approval process, different weapons, keepsakes and bulds, and i always fail. 5 times in a row already at least. other unfinished ones - same thing. maybe, it's all in the mindset? or it's bc the update made everything slightly harder.. dunno
grim sinew
i just pick whatever boons i get
plucky charm
Hey so like
If someone like, took many, many screenshots of all and any conversations they've experienced in game
How could I upload it to the wiki or something?
grim sinew
he got new attacks
void vigil
final boss is a spoiler in this channel!
brisk trail
so how far along is the game?
is it worth it to play right now?
It's almost done.
Was worth playing in EA from pretty much the start, though.
nice nice nice
i liked bastion
hammers :>
...are there hammers in this?
There is not a hammer weapon.
ah man
heavy weapons in general?
like a big axe or somethin
There's a bunch of options to get slow heavy weapons, but Hades generally leans towards speed and mobility.
hm okidoki
karmic ibex
|| There isn't specifically a heavy weapon, although there are upgrades to get heavier weapons ||
brisk trail
ahhh ok
twilit void
What is a “revenge” boon?
karmic ibex
an effect happens when you get hit
twilit void
So the boons are vertical on the left side, and it’s attack, special, cast, revenge, something?
karmic ibex
|| wrath , basically a special ability once it's been unlocked||
twilit void
Ahhh how do you unlock that
karmic ibex
you'll eventually get it
twilit void
Kk
So someone said something about having to reach hades with the spear to unlock aspects
Is that true or what’s the deal with that? I have three Titan blood and just unlocked the sixth weapon
karmic ibex
No, I can't remember the way it unlocks, but definitely not by reaching final boss with spear
twilit void
And that just unlocks the zagreus aspects for weapons or more than that
I knowww I’m having so much fun playing too. I’ve made it to the third area a few times now.
I got the double shot bow boon with lightning and then the jolted effect that was melting stuff
granite ether
the first 3 aspects are unlocked, just need to invest titan blood into them to use em
twilit void
First three aspects for each weapon?
granite ether
4th aspect unlocks are pinned in #h1-story-discussion
twilit void
Nice man, thanks
granite ether
no worries ^_^
twilit void
Just want to play alllll day now
Also I stopped getting Titan blood when I kill the furies is that normal
karmic ibex
yes
twilit void
Boo
brisk trail
Beat the final boss and you can get more meta resources by climbing Heat.
karmic ibex
there are opportunities to get more in the future\
twilit void
Nice
karmic ibex
just finished all up to heat 20 on bow finally
tepid gorge
I don't feel that way myself, but friends on stream think that twitch integration like in Dead Cells could give Hades additional boost.
What do you think?
brisk trail
how do you mean?
strange junco
do you guys dash on mouse?
brisk trail
Not in this game.
azure jasper
tfw when ||plume|| procs when you down ||hades|| lol
quaint wind
i couldn't use dash well when i was on kbm
strange junco
is controller considered better?
quaint wind
i liked it better personally
strange junco
if I grab a boon that affects my attack, does that mean i won't find any more attack boons
brisk trail
They'll be less frequent, but occasionally you'll be offered an exchange. Exchanging a boon increases rarity by one level and is one of the very few ways of getting Heroic boons.
strange junco
i see thank you
patent topaz
this also counts for special, cast and dash. Not sure about call but maybe also that.
strange junco
is doom any good?
azure jasper
i feel like they tend to avoid giving you trade in boons til you get all of your attack, special, and cast at least
strange junco
i notice it's a some what long proc time
azure jasper
but idk for sure
there's some later boons that help with that
ares + athena duo =|| deflect abilities instantly proc doom. doom on attack + deflect on dash works really well.||
azure jasper
if you get the duo boon for those 2 gods it'll instantly proc your doom damage when you dash through them
strange junco
how do you get a duo boon
azure jasper
it requires certain prerequisite boons from 2 different gods and then there's a small % chance it drops when you get aboon from either god
i think those 2 are just an ability with doom and an ability with deflect though
some effect specific skills so you have to have that skill for them to drop. for example artemis + demeter makes your laser track faster so it won't drop if you don't have the laser
strange junco
so if i didn't get the duo boon when i picked it up then i won't get it
azure jasper
every time you pick up a boon from either of those gods now that you have the prerequisites will now have a chance to have the duo in the options to pick from
strange junco
oh ok
strange junco
got it @azure jasper
patent topaz
am i the only one seeing the brimstones' model glitchy? They're like a stuttering light
patent topaz
already did that
worthy egret
Yeah i saw the stutter too
fathom saffron
is there a place i should report a bug?
sharp parcel
press F10 in-game
uneven copper
literally just realized that the new update is the blood price, not the blood prince
azure jasper
who do i talk to for the fists 4th form?
sharp parcel
doesn't exist yet
floral shore
No one just yet. It's not in the game.
azure jasper
oh, i thought that was what they added in the last update
floral shore
The only 4th aspect that didn't get added.
azure jasper
oof
floral shore
Before last update spear and sword were in the game, last update gave shield, bow and rail. Fists is coming with 1.0
azure jasper
in that case, who do i talk to for the shield and rail xD guess i'll go for those instead
floral shore
Shield is from ||Chaos||, Rail is from ||Zeus||. Standard requirements (Guan Yu unlocked, at least 5 blood total somewhere in the respective weapon) apply.
azure jasper
yea, i just wasted 5 blood on fists :*(
floral shore
It's not wasted, the fists are superb even without the 4th aspect.
It's also probably the weapon where the Zag aspect is the best, relatively speaking.
narrow hemlock
fists are like the only wep I use zag aspect consistently lmao I hate it on a couple other weps
floral shore
Rail is a weapon where I use the Zag aspect a lot too. Occasionally on the Spear. I can see the point on doing it on the bow, I'm just incredibly bad with it so that's a nope. Sword and Shield are just complete waste imo.
karmic ibex
You guys had a look at the feedback that @near umbra did? They basically said || TL:DR, the Rama Bow doesn't provide a good cost to benefit that the other legendary aspects provide. They say that when using the Rama bow, you lose mobility for higher DPS, but the increase in DPS isn't nearly sufficient to justify the cost and is therefore not ideal to take. One of the suggestions that made was to allow all damage to proc shared suffering, so Doom, Lightning, Hangover, etc, can all proc it. I really like this idea, what do you guys think? ||
azure jasper
just unlocked that weapon and maxed it, but i think that might make it too strong
maybe if they reduce the %
but i don't have a ton of exp, but that seems like a lot
karmic ibex
yea that'd be the best if this was to happen
near umbra
I'm the OP and act I agree w @azure jasper, if they make it all damage sources it'd probably need to be reduced % to balance out but it makes it far more flexible and worthwhile compared to now imo
karmic ibex
Yea currently maxed out, it's 60%, but to balance out for all damage, I'd say 30-40%?
uneven copper
I agree with all damage proc...after all, it kinda makes more sense
azure jasper
might be hard to balance with cast builds though
near umbra
The main issue now is that the attack is so slow to charge and you have no form of defense
uneven copper
right now its pretty sub par across the board. How you all feel about the new shield? kinda a hera bow slapped on but to a move rarely used...are they trying to make that move more useful?
karmic ibex
Yea, I've been using new bow lots recently. Even got up to 20 heat with it, but I've only been doing special builds with it because the ||modified special|| is really good
near umbra
I'm OK w the new shield because it's got a heavier moveset besides the dragon rush (plus dragon rush is imo still q distinct from hera bow)
karmic ibex
I've never really liked shield so I can't really say, but nuke builds would be great with it no?
near umbra
Is the Rama special better than Chrion? I feel like there's just not enough there to justify, but idk if I'm just biased against that oppresively slow attack charge
uneven copper
you defend while charging, which is nice, but still feels too slow imo. not enough DPS compared to hera + exit wounds + greater recall
the special is good for shooting into crowds but I think in tough enemy situations it suffers
near umbra
I think the impt thing to rmb is that ultimately some aspects/builds are gonna be better than others, the real Qn is if they're still interesting/varied/balanced enough to ensure players can enjoy the variety from playing them
uneven copper
just found out you can dash and maintain attack on new exogriff
that makes it waaaaaaay more viable
even keeps target lock
near umbra
Rama's problem to me because its so bad that it's actually just not fun to play even
uneven copper
yeah i agree, esp. compared to arty + hera bulids
karmic ibex
I really like the ||Rama|| special because ||the arrows bounce and the spread of the arrows is much smaller. Compared to the Chiron bow, although there are more arrows, you first have to attack an enemy, then shoot the special. Even then, the special attack speed is very slow compared to Rama.||
New bow special is ||much faster and easier to build around||
uneven copper
but the rest of the bow is much slower and harder to build around lmao
azure jasper
just make volley trigger the shared suffering and call it a day with everybody building around that skill lol
sharp parcel
that's the real attack
raw cape
Could make shared suffering spread debuffs. So all enemies get weakened, froze, doom etc.
Would help dps by making privilege easier to apply and maintain
balmy goblet
did the chaos gate frequency change?
i swear to god i've had at least one in Tartarus when running cosmic egg
per run
now the first one showed in late Elysium...
i have maybe seen 2 in the past 2 hours
balmy goblet
asking because i always run this keepsake
and i could swear i never left tartarus without a gate before
manic bobcat
It can certainly happen.
Plenty of people got out of Tartarus without a gate
I don't want to invalidate your experience, but atm I honestly can't see that as a bug or nerf per se.
narrow hemlock
you're not guaranteed to get a gate in tart, is the thing. i rarely see them in aspho so not getting one until elysium doesnt really strike me as that odd. bad luck, for sure
balmy goblet
welp guess i had extremely good luck before
it's not explicitly stated the keepsake improves your chances of a gate
but it's implied in the dialogue
narrow hemlock
it happens sometimes, just like how many of my recent runs end up 2sack in styx. its not guaranteed but its certainly possible
no keepsakes, dont increase your odds though, theyre not coded for that
balmy goblet
i didnt even know you can have 2 sacks?
narrow hemlock
2sack as in, sack in 2nd tunnel
balmy goblet
oh okay
narrow hemlock
its not possible to get it in the first tunnel so the earliest you can find it is the second
narrow hemlock
the minimum amount of rooms you have to pass through in styx for the sack is about like.. 7 iirc, and a single tunnel is not that long, which is why you cant get it in the first tunnel
patent topaz
i was able to clobber Thes and Ast on my first GY run, now let's hope
balmy goblet
you can do this mate
patent topaz
aand lost two dd already i want to die
topaz crystal
Two more times and you can. Assuming you had three.
manic bobcat
aand lost two dd already i want to die
Don't do that. :3
patent topaz
nevermind got them back with last stand and deathless stand
gotta have dinner then oh boy
strange junco
accidently spent my titan blood on the wrong thing, is there a way to refund it
narrow hemlock
if you havent saved since using blood, quit to title screen and go back
otherwise no
manic bobcat
If you only recently bought it and never went back to the mirror room
Quit now
If you did, welp
tall turtle
devs please theres a song which plays in tartarus bosses and minibosses and i dont think its released on the official ost yet and i need it because it slaps so hard
even just a name so i know what to look out for
topaz crystal
I'm mostly sure the bossfight music is the Scourge of the Furies.
manic bobcat
I looked for it for a while, too
lofty dragon
that one is my fav soundtrack
narrow hemlock
wretched shades is pretty great
quaint bramble
May I also recommend The Bloodless, Last Words, ||The King and the Bull||
patent topaz
Me: accepts trove challenge
Game: https://media.tenor.com/images/bad11b0680177813f5e96f5aea32ac08/tenor.gif
past mirage
Speaking of the soundtrack, the new version of Final Expense hasn't been added to the Soundtrack DLC yet. Has anyone heard about plans to complete it yet?
brisk trail
Second half of ||God of the Dead.||
patent topaz
my favourites are good riddance, last words and from olympus
manic bobcat
You know
narrow hemlock
the king and the bull is my other fave
manic bobcat
I wish I can forget what I learned about the game and start anew
narrow hemlock
@past mirage prob for 1.0
manic bobcat
Hades is one the few games that makes me excited to play
narrow hemlock
1.0 new file gang rise up
manic bobcat
The first time I got to the Furies, the music, the hype made me shake from adrenaline rush
We should have a 1.0 new save party
And pretend we know nothing about the game
lofty dragon
the furies soundtrack has been stuck in me since yesterday
brisk trail
It is my intention to stream the entirety of the new file.
patent topaz
what about the out of tartarus miniboss section?
past mirage
And pretend we know nothing about the game
@manic bobcat Guess I need to make a trip to Lethe river to make it authentic.
void vigil
i just reached 100 hours on hades on steam 
patent topaz
and when you fight megaera and the painful way goes 🥁 🥁 🥁 🥁 🥁 🥁 🥁 🥁 TANANANA TANANANA
manic bobcat
I can hear that
lofty dragon
those hair be swinging
fallen rover
Hello guys ! any admin here ?
narrow hemlock
a dev? depends on what you need
narrow hemlock
i would personally advise getting in touch with them directly https://www.supergiantgames.com/contact/
manic bobcat
What's a press kit?
fallen rover
is to get backround footage of the game.
manic bobcat
I'm just curious but can't you use your own footage for videos?
fallen rover
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void vigil
check out this page - https://www.supergiantgames.com/games/hades
manic bobcat
Ah I see
void vigil
theres a downloadable zip file here with what youre looking for
lofty dragon
how worth is buying the yarn of ariadne? to me it does not seem like a very good deal.
acoustic trout
how does the Aspect of Hera for the bow work?
it's not really explained in the game
lofty dragon
your cast button loads them so they get fired along your next shot
acoustic trout
right but then what? does it do extra damage? does it proc the cast skill when you hit them?
or are cast skills basically useless with Hera?
gusty slate
I know it procs the cast skill at least
lofty dragon
well you can launch multiple casts at once resulting in some pretty big bursts
plus some other stuff like being able to launch blade rift casts from range
gusty slate
Artemis cast + Hera is what I usually roll
lofty dragon
did that today with beowulf instead, same result, the burst was hilarious
gusty slate
ooo I haven't tried beowulf yet, does it need to be maxed to be useful?
acoustic trout
ah okay, that does sound good
lofty dragon
i didn't upgrade it at all, it is basically hera's bow but on the shield
i think the special does more damage as well so you can make some high dmg special builds too
gusty slate
Shield is fairly bias towards special anyways
astral folio
Hermes is strictly utility, right?
outer comet
Not really. He has some lovely touches too. From speeding up your attacks and specials and casts, really boosting certain builds and, of course, general utility, he's great.
lofty dragon
i'm addicted to side hustle
outer comet
God yes
lofty dragon
faster attacks/specials are a rare find for me
haughty sigil
I wouldn't say he is "strictly utility" mainly because his utility often translates directly into survivability and/or a more efficient damage engine.
With certain builds Hermes is the tipping point from "difficult" to "total cheese"
calm delta
Oh, like the gatling shot
haughty sigil
A cast focused build becomes devastating if you get the legendary that brings casts back to you, even more so if you get the one that makes them drop the casts faster.
A plume run gets ridiculous the more of his boons you have.
- Bonus dodge chance and move speed every time you Call
- Huge bonus to move speed for a second after dash
- Bonus move speed
- bonus dodge chance
- Rush Delivery : convert bonus move speed to bonus damage.
You can get like 200% bonus move speed and end up with a 100% conversion to bonus damage.
@gusty slate Beowulf Shield gets pretty good with upgrades. You're doing area damage with your cast and every time you are loading it up you execute it with the dragon rush, so the huge improvements to dragon rush help. It ends up being a ridiculously wide attack at double damage. Whether your attack is mainly for applying a status curse or for adding a bit of raw damage, the upgrade makes a difference.
if you get the hammer upgrade that increases Attack damage after special, it's even more fun.
tall turtle
Out of Tartarus
@manic bobcat nope isnt this
tall turtle
i just saw your message now btw sorryt for late reply
tall turtle
the song im looking for i heard it both in the minibosses and in the furies boss
ive been through the soundtrack posted on yt it isnt there
its so hype i would legit loop that thing when doing high heat runs
vast junco
huh, it should be out of tartarus, i think. the track changes depending on context
manic bobcat
Did you listen through the entirety of Out of Tartarus?
manic bobcat
The guitar riff really kicks in 1/3 into the song.
tall turtle
nope its not out of tartarus
its been in the game for a couple patches now
noticed it first in the demeter patch
I THINK
manic bobcat
Then I'm sorry but I don't know what you are referring to.
I hope you find it though
tall turtle
no worries, i am mostly confused as to why its not on the yt yet like its been a couple patches
also its not there during every fight
sometimes its the normal song and sometimes its the banger
manic bobcat
Nice time stamp too xD
vast junco
sorry about the confusion earlier, i'm glad you were adamant enough about it to tell me i was mistaken lol
yeah lol
tall turtle
hearing it again i should have recognised the chord prog on the intro bit
but it hits diff idk what it is
the saddest part is that unless ur running high heat u dont get to listen to the most intense bit
vast junco
even on high heat you sometimes don't because you'll be gunning for a build that can dps them down real fast regardless 
i know the pain
tall turtle
yeh
im trying out the rama bow for the first time after putting down the game for months
it seems really good
vast junco
yeah, it can get very powerful, especially with hammers like twin shot
tall turtle
im trying to all in for special with this run
i think that has potential
but its range is obscene
vast junco
it does if you run zeus or maybe an involved doom setup, yeah
tall turtle
im going demeter for this run
did a dionysus run last time and it went ok
but lacked oompf
tall turtle
i went poseidon basic to keep them at bay as they died to dots
but literally lacked the damage to punch through charon
think i prefer chiron aspect right now
astral flume
anyone know the number of titan blood currently needed to get every single aspect to lvl 5?
wind nest
Getting to a point in hades where upping the heat is a little beyond me
I’m playing at 10 heat now. Kinda wonder what could be next for me
astral flume
seems a little low? that feels like it might be without the 4th aspect
outer comet
@astral flume Let me check for you.
astral flume
so 15*5 titan blood extra to that?
wind nest
Yeah it’s probably a little low
sharp parcel
you need 306 blood to max out all aspects
outer comet
51 blood for each weapon bar Fists, which caps at 36
sharp parcel
(5+15+16+15)*6
sharp parcel
yet
astral folio
Dad Hades Is kinda BS
astral flume
holy crap... so without purchasing titan blood at charons final shop or exchanging it in the House shop, you'd need to beat 25 heat with each weapon, on average
to fully upgrade each weapon in 1.0
past mirage
The rest comes from prophecies (26 for now), broker exchanges, Styx shops, and a certain Chaos fish.
sharp parcel
yep
wind nest
Yeah it’s the main progression in the game
outer comet
You're only getting 200 max from normal mode contracts, 250 from hell mode.
wind nest
They stop rewarding blood after heat 20 too. So I wonder what they’re gonna do afterwords
outer comet
The rest you'll have to find your way around getting.
sharp parcel
where are you guys getting extra 50 blood on Hell?
wind nest
It’s more than 200 right 2 per run for 20 heats on 6 weapons = 240 Titan blood
astral flume
why only on hell? did i do the math wrong? 306/2 (two titan blood per full run), 153/6 (each weapon), 25.5-1 (cause it starts on 0 heat), rounding up, 25 heat per weapon
and then various bonuses and shops of course
wind nest
Yeah on normal mode I’m pretty sure
sharp parcel
it's 2 bloods x 21 Heat levels (including 0 heat) x 6 weapons = 252
wind nest
I Haven’t gotten there just what I read
wind nest
Even still that’s only 5/6th the way to completion the rest you have to do through trading which isn’t fun!
astral flume
aahh... it didn't say the 20 heat level on the titan blood page of the wiki, but does on the pact of punishment page
worldly sierra
Has anyone had the game crash mid boss fight, and then not restart even after rebooting your PC?
outer comet
Aye a few times
If you alt tab quite often that could be why.
Going borderless and switching off full screen worked for me
sand marsh
Sorry for asking but do yall know how to get the 3 new legendary aspects?
worldly sierra
Nope I never do that
I can't get the game to open again.
I'm betting my save file is now corrupted
@sand marsh || you need 5 blood invested into each weapon type first, then talk to Artemis, Zeus and Chaos ||
It won't necessarily || happen the first time you talk to them. May have to cycle through several attempts ||
mystic nexus
Hey, are boon rarity boosters additive or multiplicative?
worldly sierra
Good.. I fixed it
mystic nexus
Like, if I have a 40% chance to find a rare or better boon from the mirror and a bonus 10% from my relic, do I have a 50% chance total?
worldly sierra
I believe so
past mirage
I don't fully understand what happens when the sum of epic% and rare% exceeds 100%. Does anyone know?
worldly sierra
At that point you should never see a common boon
past mirage
I should formulate my question better.