#h1-discussion
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shrug
probably still too early to tell since the game (and as consequence, the art) is still being made
hell, the next update's still introducing portraits for new NPCs
im just so in love with the style every time I see them ._.
since last year its still my personal fav purchase made in a looong while
also I just realized that Charon's look is visible so I kinda spoiled if for myself
yeah, the artstyle's great
i only wish I could get the pet from sisyphus, I think only one more conversations is needed with Thanatos for it but he just keeps avoidin me
theres some stuff you can see in noclip's documentaries about hades if you havent watched them yet! @hoary quiver
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-THgg8QnvU4JEVov1tMlFThNYS92F8uC
heres a playlist link
though i think theyre out of order here? but they have the numbers in the titles
you can see meg, asterius and theseus in part 3 and theres a zagreus reference on jen's twitter
i cant recall anything else off the top of my head, id have to skim the other noclip docs again to see if there was anything else
yeah part 3 is focused on the art but i do recommend all of them in general! theyre super interesting ^0^
oh yeah for sure
def hoping for a collection of concept arts and stuff post launch though because those are always fun to see
i think artbooks have been the most popular request
and i definitely would love one as well
i love concept art... love seeing it
wish they had shown off more in part 3, alas
at least we got this https://gyazo.com/050b95a9bb802edfa7a916d78e53bf7f
https://gyazo.com/2fd2de2445b40981bdecf773d86d6c5d tiny theseus holding a rose
or having it thrown at him i guess, squints
Asterius is so tall
Hi guys. Sorry if this is the wrong chat for this, but I would like to report a bug. Where can I do it?
if youre still ingame, f10
alright, thank you
Man, theseus’ arms are long
asterius' arms are out like that bc hes ready to hug you
Probaby to death
now i have the rail and
i LOVE IT
instead of bear hugs you get bull hugs
pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew
if it doesn't crash your ribs is it even an hug
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-THgg8QnvU4JEVov1tMlFThNYS92F8uC
heres a playlist link
@void vigil thank you!
1 day closer to the June update
rattles the bars of my cage, soon
inb4 delayed
@sharp parcel I can't wait!!
wake me up until september the wait ends
btw i started playing after the nighty night update, they said the wait for this update was longer than the previous, is that true? Do updates take this long to come out?
the June update took twice as much time as updates usually take
Probably the whole porting and fiddling with the code bit
They did say they were working towards multi-platform support
And from what I've seen, this always takes some time
updates have historically been on a 2 month schedule
this one was an exception due to some code refactoring and working on multi-platform support (I believe what they're working on is actually detailed in the game's main menu if you click the button in the bottom right corner)
yes, aside from technical stuff they're adding tons of new content
oh seems new chambers are actually confirmed for this update, interesting
please don't be new Asphodel rooms with tons of lava
PLEASE don't be new Asphodel rooms with tons of lava
lol oh no
idk greg just said new chambers, nothing specific
In that update we will be adding new foes, new Boons (godlike powers) and Daedalus Hammer enchantments (weapon upgrades), new chambers, new weapon Aspects (i.e. alternate versions of our weapons), new items, new cosmetics for the House of Hades (your hub), a bunch of new story events, and other content, fleshing out some of our game systems and adding more variety.
from there
New foes 👀
oh no
the floor is literally lava
lmao
huh, wait yeah i don't think i paid attention to the new foes part before
that's exciting
moving platforms on lava when
new foes was mentioned in the nighty night trailer
chambers wasnt though so thats why that part interested me
i don't they've ever explicitly hyped up new chambers lol
they've just been always part of the updates
yeah i dont expect them to but im just wondering what these chambers are going to entail. is it just adding more rooms to the biomes, are they going to be chambers with specific purposes, ect
I doubt they'd be anything super noteworthy, probably just more general use biome encounter chambers
U N D E R W A T E R L E V E L
with a new pact of punishment option that reduces your breath timer by 30 seconds
does anyone technically need to breathe in the underworld 
da rats
akshually that's not part of the underworld
Ten Thousand Leagues Under the Styx
that's the update name
new biome. kraken boss. poseidon plotline. abominable clunky ass 3d controls
charon goes scuba diving in his spare time
more poseidon lines
gonna have fun with my liquid justice
HOY NEPHEW i see you've met my little pet the kraken whathodontmindhimhistempestuoustemperis
technically, Styx wouldn't be new
supergiant doesn't want you to know the truth. when they said no new biomes, that was a red herring, the next update will add a open world on the surface to explore and search for Persephone
Open world Hades
I'd love to play as persephone escaping the underworld
or even be forced to escape from the bottom of Tartarus
Maybe the sequel could be called Zeus, with Heracles trying to escape Olympus or something like that lol
Then you would get boons from Nyx, Hades, Thanatos, etc.
you play as Persephone who must escape Hades while evading his goons. Nyx is your companion.
^^^^^ this would be great
stealth, distracting shades, help from hermes to "deliver" you from the underworld
i think a high octane game like hades culminating in a stealth minigame would be a big bummer
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/456936596227358720/716117467658977380/stygius.png Even if it might be an early art concept, I wonder if we will see Hestia within the next updates. What do you think? Any theories?
i dont think so
the intent was never to add/represent all of the olympian pantheon
Yeah, in this case the runes indicate less the gods that were going to be there and more the olympians that were present during the titanomachy
well, stealth DLC can be a completely new story in another save, unlockable only after a flashback in the main story, it doesn't have to be a culmination
Right but it's an odd decision to include the other five gods but not Hestia
Yeah, I also thought that if they would add an other God, it would maybe be Apollo. But this art made me think about Hestia instead
lets get to 1.0 first before we theorize about dlc lmao, they may not do dlc after all
not like it will ever be done anyway
Or I guess Hera isn't there either 
I got it
The stealth DLC will also be the one introducing Hera
You gotta move around without her noticing because she thinks Zeus is into Zag now given all the attention he’s giving him and decided a smiting was in order
huuuu good point about Hera!
It’s less about hades not noticing and more hera not noticing
Booya, DLC done now where’s my royalties supergiant
How many empty boxes do we have left for the gifts :')?
Uhhh 6 I think?
supergiants probably the only devs who could actually convince me to buy a dlc
do i hear 9? 9 boxes?
Shhhhhh
its okay no one here can count, if they say they can theyre lying 
I'm old and tired
We don't know what's after the current final boss... if there is a lot to discover after that, it would be ok to have even more gods I guess
What about
10 boxes
I'm not sure they're adding any playable content after the final boss
I'm so sorry Master Chaos
we have to remember the story is focused on zag's quest specifically though
I mean, the way the Narrator at the end says things, it is strongly implied there's going to be content past the current final boss
the wording is sort of ambiguous right? just says they're making an ending. but who knows, things change.
You mean this wasn’t Dusaquest all along?
unless its a separate chamber i dont see how. theres stuff in qa about no further biomes
🤔
Hades DLC: Dusaquest: Dusa's Revenge: Live Free or Dusa Hard
Hey, we did get Erebus as a tecnically separate biome
its not a biome though its just a single chamber...
The narrator's got a few voicelines talking about Zag continuing on... except his tale will have to continue at another time
what if the surface is not counted as a new biome, since it's in the game aready?
You know what would be cool
A Chaos Realm exploration expansion
time to fight greek shoggoths in Chaos’ turf
i want to fix this narrative right now he is not "the narrator" it is clearly and abundantly Dante
Uh? Okay? Source?
source for what
Dante being the narrator/old man
the statue is of a great poet. the statue responds in the narrator's voice when you poke it. dante is a poet who wrote much of the source material for the game's universe.
oh i missed that completely lol
ipso bingo bango syllogismo it's dante
That’s him joking probably
I'm bad at picking up sarcasm/jokes
i'm like 80% serious
Dante was fascinated with the Greeks
He doesn’t speak too rhytmically so probably not a rhapsode
So there's some merit there
dante or virgil @ me
asdkljaskjdasd
dev confirmation 2021 or bust
Yes but if this were dante Hades would read as christian fanfiction
And not the current greek fanfiction
True
I think I meant to open that can of worms with virgil i'm just a little rusty on my lit
Huuuuu, I can't wait for the next patch and see what's after the boss if no region 😢
as we do not have plans to add more regions akin to Tartarus or Asphodel.
The akin in there makes me side-eye this response a bit hahaha
That may have been a reference to Erebus since it tecnically counts as a separate biome
Or at least it does for on the Codex
True
or Chaos' realm
its in the codex as a separate area but yeah i dont count it as a biome since you only find it as a single chamber per each biome
thats why i dont really think theres too much past the current ending either. we know they wont add a whole new area, so at most if theres further content its probably a few extra chambers or whatever 
At some point I'm sure we'll get to Olympus. Maybe that's what they meant.
maybe some cutscenes?
zag's goal isnt olympus?
the olympians are helping him escape but his goal was never to get to olympus. the olympians think it is
it is better they dont know the true i think
if they knew all about it, they might do crazy things
Yeah
Don’t think we’ll get to Olympus in the story proper or just get to olympus flat
Exactly. And I don't see what or why we would be fighting at the Olympus
The only areas of the Greek Underworld we haven't seen is the Mourning Fields and the Isles of the Blessed, but the Isles are a part of Elysium, and the Mourning Fields... I don't even know where those would go
its implied multiple times that if the olympians knew what was really going on there would be dire consequences, yeah
Isn’t asphodel the fields?
they are already forcing you to choose between two if them, get mad about it, and inmediatly forgive you
Asphodel Meadows and Mourning Fields are listed as different
Oh yeah
Then again Erebus is commonly considered interchangeable with Tartarus, and is the name of Nyx's brother
So who knows
Nyx's brother in actual mythology, I should clarify
If we always go up... do we have to get to the mortal world before Olympus?
Unlikely that we’ll see the fields since that’s more Aeneid territory and not greek stuff proper
Like Athens or something
Yes, mortal world is between the underworld and Olympus
Hu, I wonder how exploring the mortal world would be in Hades
You tecnically get to get to the surface
Also if we go by Hades lore the mortal world is ||pretty frosty atm||
True true
The Elysium is called as "the surface"... But what's after the Styx looks more like the mortal world actually
Yeah, closest it gets is Zag wondering if the surface- yeah
Hmmm right
I also wonder what's up with the seasons. Demeter is not only winter but all of them and Persephone brings Spring back if I ain't wrong. But winter seems to be at its gold time, makes me wondering if we will actually see Persephone soon (Like, is she actually that close?)
well i have the feeling that demeter is holding a gruge
That's treading into spoiler territory I think
You’ll see what’s going on as you progress with Demeter, yeah
A god? hold a grudge? unpossible
well considering how fast the get angry at you for making a choice between them then forget about it?
Yeah, I'm being careful on this topic :'), but this doesn't reveal much I think?
Yeah best to move this to #h1-story-discussion please ^_^
Yes the gods are fickle and quick to anger and quick to forget
Ty 
Hey, when's full release?
When it's released
Any estimated time period, e.g. 2020 Q3
We dunno
Uhhhh not as far as I know
They're being very careful not to give end dates so they can be sure to not inadvertently make promises they can't keep
Gotcha. Thanks.
Especially with the pandemic and everything right now
Yeah, I totally get that.
they havent indicated pandemic has affected anything, when the march update came out they were already saying the next update would be some time in june with no specific date
its largely the scope of the update itself thats taking a while
All we know is "later this year"
We'll get more once the devs can announce more
Besides the next update hasn't dropped yet
christmas release 
31/12/2020 23:59 release
So they're focusing on getting that out atm
Fingers crossed for june I'm excited for the update
Hi guys how to complete this quest for Poseidon with fishs ?
Have you seen the fishing spots? (Small sparkling ripples in the water)
Sometimes zag will say something ehen you get close to them
The ding sfx helps a lot imo
Simping for zag hours 😔
Hey quick question: What do the different colors for discord names each mean?
#bot-commands
Join the Hades rank
colours are based on games/moderators/ect, just check the bot channel.
Personally, I'm typically more a fan of red, but I can see that I'll have to make an exception in this case
i want uncoloured hades roles for olympians so we can parade our loyalty to our fav olympian 
uncoloured bc you dont wanna clutter roles and confuse people with a ton of different colours lol
Sounds good
Jokes aside, a little god symbol next to our names would be neat
You could put emojis in your name and that's the closest you could get because I don't think roles can change anything but the color of your name
not all of the roles even change colour, like the pronoun ones and stuff, theyre just informational
Got it, thanks for the help everyone
Reddit Flair but for Discord when?
how is @deep pivot the only mod on rn
Because I’m fruity?
we're sorry in advance for goofin
Gimme 15 minutes. Im in a moba rn :S
Absolutely nothing going on in gameplay ever
cant believe yall made the room references
Okay, I'm here! Is there something that requires my attention? 😮
Hm... who wants to talk about the least popular character in Asphodel?
The Purple Mega Gorgon Head!
the purple mega gorgon head is a big booli 
And her BFF the Giant Skullcrusher!
We have Dusa we don't need Purple mega gorgon head
Wait how is that purple
just accept it
That looks... Yellow to me
My memory fails me then 
I'm very sure Slugger Speeder Inferno-Bombers are the least popular in Asphodel.
Middle Management Gorgon Head is full on power tripping
my fight or flight instinct is kicking in
Middle Management Forced Overtime Mega Gorgon head is 🇫
It's like whack a mole, but worse 
Omg yes
Instant triple bombs that do like 50+ damage each.
paws?
It's whack a mole alright
cjsjd
Ajsjdhsh
Whack-a-gorgon-skull
Might be a good place to use ||dusa||
We use the Gorgon to destroy the Gorgon
Meanwhile the Giant Skullcrusher plays Whac-A-Zag.
I wonder though, if mentioning that detail is considered spoilers? 
That Dusa is a gorgon?
I didn't think it'd be spoilers unless you knew what using dusa is even related to
oh heck just got reminded of that thing I've been wanting to report that I've forgotten entirely about.. maybe... tomorrow.......
No, silly doggo, that part about ||Dusa helping out in battle|| 😛
could be just remembering her heartfelt words for encouragement
Yes, please ban @manic bobcat for that. 
I can't ban someone because they were being cute 
Please ban her for inciting violence
Editted just in case though
@manic bobcat slander.
And snitching
gonna give y'all foam malphons and let you slap fight it out
New Aspect of Malphon: Aspect of Pool Noodles

Well, it takes time to get a Companion and not everyone here might have gotten that far so I think it's nice to put it in spoilers just in case 
pool noodles........
But it's winter here 🥶
No worries Peach, clean and done
Seasonally themed Hades please
it's winter here too
also, are we on to something with this brilliant discussion?
winter is the best season though 😛
Aggy 
Peach 
You lurking 😄
I love Christmas.
zag would go out with beach gear in the winter he's not a coward
Can we add a Christmas hat for Zag?
Aggy Aggy Aggy, we are the only 2 mods online right now! Isn't that thrilling?!
We get the hammer all for ourselves!
huh, I didn't notice till now 
.

There was no mod earlier
Malphon, yes. But I'm not gonna use a "foam" Malphon. The dog needs to suffer. 
Ban please
What for?
we're only allowed foam weapons 🤧
Hm... Do Ancient Greeks know what foam is? 
- Be kind. This is an international, diverse community whose common ground is an interest in our games. As a member of this community, we expect you to contribute to an environment where everyone feels welcome and included. Be accepting and respectful. Avoid being inflammatory.
they do now!
Well, they got a disco ball so maybe?
maybe they invented foam before foam existed for mortals 
I wish more people were accepting of Poseidon 
Odysseus sure didn't
He's the "fun" uncle 🌈 YAY 🌈
How was I not being kind?
Broseidon is awesome
@deep pivot he called all the dead mortals ||filth||.
That's flower girl's way of saying "the dog needs hugs" 
Wait, really?!
When, how, where?!
Why?!
Love you, too. 
Poseidon did. I liked him until he did that.
I need Shoukai's log for that because I can't believe he'd say something like that 😮
(OMG Aggy why you have such cute emojis you are killing me)
noo no banne 
crawls out of bed 😭
It's k. We still love you.
Nuuu it's ok! Stay in bed!
We will just need to trust Nyaa words I guess
it's fine, it's a foam hammer
Hypnos wants you in bed 
@deep pivot and no, I meant the dog needs to suffer. 
"to suffer" obviously translates to hugs
Kill them with kindness or so they say 
Fun fact: that's one of my favorite lines from Athena in SMITE LOL
I'll try that if it works.
You can start by stop snitching.
well I looked
Sorry :D
OMG I didn't mean to make you get up Shoukai 
But now that you looked, why does Poseidon say that? 
||"Little Hades, have I ever told you I detest the dead? Well, I admit it, I just cannot stand a mortal past his due. So how about we get you far away from all such filth, agreed?"||
Oh....
I think that's more of Pos hating Hades' domain
||wow.... deadphobic....||
poseidon cancelled
Oh boy Uncle sounds a little Drunkle
|| I think that's called necrophobia or something like that? ||
||you are correct it's called necrophobia||
So Poseidon is that kind of uncle huh
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That's the best spoiler tag I've seen this week 
That feels like a very dusa spoiler to give
Because it's friendly? 
Cause it's sweet as heck
A very heartful spoiler. 
OK so.... question time! If you could adopt one of the gods to be one of your relatives, who would you pick?
i do think poseidon's comment feels more like a hate against hades and what he represents rather than like... actually hating the dead... ||he refers to hades as "crusty" a few times and claims hades has tried to "poison" zag against the olympians, so i kinda feel thats related to the filthy dead remark||
I'd adopt artemis, but I'd also be happy with it being the other way round too
I'd pick Artemis as my cousin because she's chill and adorable :3
We would get lost in the forest and I'd make fun of her in many ways lol
and that was the last we heard of peach, tragic
I'd probably pick Artemis myself, cause she seems like a chill introvert I could high five and then not talk to for a week without any loss of friendship
Idk how to characterize Aphrodite
artemis' affinity meter never goes down
I would not recommend that as family fox
@vast junco except when you don't pick her in a Trial 
Aphrodite is friendly...most the time
Dionysus or Aphrodite?
Arte trial is he easiest one
Aphrodite
I'd have Dionysus as my cousin 🍷
Yeah Arte barely even tries to kill you
everyones saying arty so yknow what i want hermes. gonna bro it up with hermes
That's why I spurn her so often, despite my aching heart.
I meant her remarks. She sounds soo sad and betrayed 
Dionysus sounds like the guy who parties way harder than you, and is always drinking, but very rarely seems wasted or unhappy
Does wife count as relative? 
Uuhh....
Hermes is a good point
I don't know 😄
uhhh, that one is up to you ^_^
Lol
please dont joke about that
if you expected me to pick ares you were... almost right... he loved his kids, dad ares agenda go. but yes hermes... gonna go cause some trouble 
My bad alma
is he even coherent on weekends
Or rather the whole week
Dionysus is fun times all the time 🎊
or any day that ends in y
I get the feeling Hermes is that relative who's never around your house.
"Hey, got places to be. See ya around!"
Oh the always busy relative
That's Ares
i wanna believe theyre actually fairly close but thats just my preference pulling off the 'if hermes hadnt saved ares from the bronze jar he would have definitely perished there' myth
Speaking of relatives, why is the Aphrodite's wiki page stated as "?" in the relationships section? 
Shouldn't Zeus at least be listed as her dad?
Probably Nyaa's doing
Hermes saved Ares? 😮
i think @narrow hemlock knows about this? i saw this being discussed a little while ago
Didn't Aphrodite in myth just like come out of the ocean?
On that note, I'm gonna head off for the night. Sleep well everyone that's relevant to!
Oh okay
Goodnight!
gnight!
Night!
Hug Hypnos for us!
So Aphrodite doesn't say anything of the sort in her Duo conversations?
Nothing about "My sister Athena" or anything at all?
Hm... that's weird 
ares was imprisoned for 13 months in a bronze jar by the aloadae giants. he had tried to stop them from storming olympus iirc? but they overtook him. like everything greek myth there are variants to this story as well but one of the more known ones is that hermes was told by the giants' stepmother ares's whereabouts and he saved him.
Isn't that nice of Hermes? Getting out of his courier services' way to help a relative in need 
ares' greatest weakness: jar
i think he was bound or something as well lmao. either way he was considerably weakened by the time hermes found him and it would have been a death sentence if no one had come for him
Hey, Fox, if you could adopt one of the Greek gods from the game as a relative, who would you adopt and why?
me fox or other fox?
hmm, i know several others said artemis already but
I already answered :D
Doggo said Dionysus can be their brother 
I think Athena because she's responsible
glancing around i dont see any of the olympians refer to aphrodite as anything beyond aphrodite, lady aphrodite or goddess aphrodite. id have to do a more thorough look later but i cant recall off the top of my head any instance where she was referred to as a sibling, half sibling or cousin like many of the others
But Aphrodite does refer to other Olympians as her family
We have homework! To notice if anyone refers to her as something, blood-wise 😋
I'm assuming that means relatives.
yeah like I said I'd have to do a more thorough look later, it's like 3 in the morning as it is lol I was just checking through how the other olympians refer to her
Because that "?" is a bit unnerving 
omg, sleep
Go hug Hypnos 💤
it takes me a long while to fall asleep so hence why I'm still around 
How does Hypnos put everyone to sleep around the house, I wonder...
Hypnos yawns >>>everyone is asleep
in some descriptions in classical texts he used his wings but he doesn't have wings here
maybe he just snaps and everyone is down for the count lol
slaps you with a wing and knocks you out cold
he had tiny lil head wings!
Knocking people out cold lol
hypnos: incredibly chill except for when he puts you to sleep
Hypnos decks me to put me to sleep
I simply think thanatos and hypnos should both get their wings back bc that would be sexy and cool, wings are nice
true
Thanatos gives me the impression he'd have dark wings while Hypnos would have white wings 
i do at least appreciate the wings around that effect surrounding than when he enters a chamber
What influenced the one winged look of the Furies?
But would thanatos have like bat wings or bird wings
FFVII.
Sephiroth
Bird 🐦
bird wings, that's what he had in classical art
Hm...
also you get the added dramatic aesthetic of him leaving behind feathers when he poofs
Oh drama I like it
than is a drama queen after all

Funny how the tables turn around for Flower Girl vs The One Winged Furies 
I'm singing one winged angel in my head now 
Hypnos would make a pillow out of scattered feathers lol
Yes, Thanatos is definitely the drama queen in the family.
He definately seems like the type to have that moody teen phase
never escaped his brooding preteen phase
Hypnos would eventually have enough pillows to start a buisness
now he simply owns it
oh peach you gave me a cute thought and then it immediately went to angst, I made myself sad.
now I will inflict it on everyone. hypnos collecting his brother's loose feathers since than won't talk to him
Aw
ѕнσυкαι, this discussion is good but do you want to sign a Hypnos pact? We are on the same timezone...

OMG Shoukai 
I thrive on angst, it comes naturally
also instead of copy pasting my funky lettering that I'm 100% too lazy to change you can also just call me tatz.....
It's 3:03am for me here 
same hat
I should be asleep.
hey me too
Jesus
3 am is when I get up
3am gang rise up
Poor sleep schedules
I got summoned and I answered because yes.
in my defense I was up for a very important cause involving checking through dialogue
Sleep who's that?
(I'm still sorry about that)
Is sleepRNG being a booli again Peach? 
lmao
Jesus is off-topic. Only Ancient Greek mythology here. @deep pivot please ban @manic bobcat.

Nope
Hm... but we have ||Arthur and Guan Yu|| 
FoxPope
I'll rotate my name
Then ban him for not spoiler-tagging it. 
The puns, I love them 
Aight I'm going to bed. May Hypnos visit all you night owls too. Good day to you Nyaa, stay salty.
I'm never salty. I'm entertained.
Night!
time to wriggle under the soft comfy blanket hypnos keeps 💤
🛏️ 💤
May you sleep tight and never come back. 
Sorry but there is no escape
@deep pivot good night! 
(Who will keep flower girl company now?)
it's morning here and i have classes but who cares amirite? 
So me if someone's here
||only for plot important flashback sequences||
if he sleep would he prefer the floor or the bed tho....
oh wait were in discussion channel 
obviously the bed, but i think he said its not as comfortable as it looks, right?
he did yeah
still beats the floor for sure
that one looks really plush
i think he just doesn't sleep tbh
the broker carpet looks really fluffy
and dirty
and dirty, yeah i was gonna say that
Not gonna lie Chaos is still my favourite of the gods.
Also, Anyone else checking steam everyday for the update? ^^
nope, SGG will announce more about the update when they can ^_^

Chaos is a pretty great being ngl 

I fished 3 times in chaos with a total of 100 runs, very rare indeed
I wish we could fish in Their realm
@topaz nimbus why plural? Chaos is a single entity.
singular they
its a gender-neutral pronoun
as chaos is neither (both?) male or female
I wonder what gender will Supergiant give to Chaos in languages without gender neutral pronouns
i hope they use neopronouns if they find fitting ones
in german theyll probably us "es" which is pronoun commonly used for objects
as the other 2 are gendered
or just refer to them by name
there's some good neopronouns for german, tho idk about other languages
now to think of it, i can't remember in my game version Chaos to be reffered by pronoun
tho the name thing would probably be easiest
there is a neutral one in this language, but most probably it's still "he", bc almost all nouns in my first language are gendered, even inanimated things and abstract concepts
like.. space is he, universe is she
nothing to do with actual gender identity
yeah it's similar here, tho we have neutral objects as well
personally it would bother me if they used "it" in any language for them, but i doubt they will tbh
I don’t think it would be so bad so long as they used it to draw the point of how alien chaos is
I still think their more humanoid form his him getting presentable so others won’t freak out when they see them
that was an issue back when they tried to translate Detroit Become human.. in english many people referred to androids as "it", like it's an inanimate object, in my language that detail got lost..
I don’t think it would be so bad so long as they used it to draw the point of how alien chaos is
I still think his more humanoid form his him getting presentable so others won’t freak out when they see him
they xD
it's just something that would personally bother me bc i'm nb so like, representation is rare
if someone would call a nonbinary person in my language, using neutral pronoun, it would sound like a straightforward insult
unfortunately
yeah same in mine that's why neopronouns
Oh boy that's a lot of neopronouns
Oohh what's everyone's native language? And how many noun classes do you have?
French.
There are no gender neutral pronouns xd
i'm german and we have three kinds of pronouns, basically he/she/it, but given recent law changes a neutral one should be considered soon
well and we also have a plural pronoun
Portuguese. No neutral pronouns either
same here.. he/she/it/they (for many), and considering how poorly minorities are represented, there will be no neopronouns anytime soon.. i've never even heard unofficial ones
tho i think this may need to move to off-topic
yes
yes
Oh true lol
moving back to recent topic though.. my friend said, she'd like to be Dio's niece, or Artemis' little sister
Ah yes, a drunk uncle
like.. Artemis could be that kind of sister, who can protect from bullies, maybe even with force.. brother-like sister
they have something in common.. distant, like bows and wildlife..
i wanna go vibe with artemis, she seems like the god you're most likely to have a nice time with (sry dio but i dont take wine well)
so, atm Artemis is most likely candidate to be someone's relative.. Dio gets silver..
guess, that makes sense, 'cause both are somehow differ from the rest of olympians.. they're somehow less fickle
Hermes is like a hyperactive younger brother though we can't forget him
Might be fun to have a run where you only get hermes boons
Gotta go fast
One of my favourite things to do right now is ramp up the speed on the twin fists to see how fast Zag can punch. Add Athena deflect for an (almost) Impenetrable Wall of Pain
I wonder how fast the sword can get with flurry slash and Hermes boons
Using aspect of nemesis and deadly strike
I have try that, it blends things that don't move much like hydra
||Companions|| are spoilers. Better to post that in gameplay or spoilers. 
oops
hey anyone knows when is the next update?
Just that it’s supposed to be in June. Check #announcements for more official details
thank you
Hi guys. I've had like 15 attempts to escape but still couldn't beat the second boss. Is this normal or am I playing not good enough ?
fifteen attempts and you already faced the second boss? i personally thing that's pretty good
the first few runs are mostly to get a feel for it and gather some basic resources
It's normal. Play at your own pace.
plus, if you ever feel like it's too hard or that you're not making any progress, god mode gives damage resistence and can help you out
I don't excatly know what to say but thank you all. I'll keep playing to enjoy :)
plus, if you ever feel like it's too hard or that you're not making any progress, god mode gives damage resistence and can help you out
@daring hull I'll keep that in mind
you do you buddy! the only thing you should have with games is fun ^w^
It took me couples of dozen of tries to escape. Some people take fewer, some people take more. But your experience so far is typical if not on the fast side. Good luck!
friends and i actually competed to see who could break out in the fewest attempts. i think the lowest was 19 and the highest was 24
It took me couples of dozen of tries to escape. Some people take fewer, some people take more. But your experience so far is typical if not on the fast side. Good luck!
@manic bobcat thanks buddy
friends and i actually competed to see who could break out in the fewest attempts. i think the lowest was 19 and the highest was 24
@drifting meteor I think it may take 20 30 attempts for me to escape. Meh, we'll see. You and your friends seems like good players. Cheers
took me over 20 to get out the first time, too
good luck
||Hey is it just me, or does Hades become slightly... Nicer every time you beat him?||
Final boss identity is spoiler jere
Whoops
There
I think Zag did prove something by escaping
Guess so
If anything that he's got the power to do so
Still though, maybe he's begrudgingly proud?
He def is
Hey! Is there any info regarding when the june update will come out? I was hoping they'd add an exact countdown by now but they haven't, and I couldn't find any information on the web
Nope
Ah, that's too bad, it's too hard to be patient 😅
Everything we know is in #announcements, I believe
Might wanna check that out
Also chill, it's just the 4th day
We got a month ahead of us
Woohoo! Warmed up with some Brawlhala to loosen my fingers, now let's see what I can do in Hades! :D
Hope you can make it to 53 heat bud
Why 53? Make it to 57 or burst
Expect the June update to come out on June 30; be positively surprised if it comes out sooner. 
50 Obols it comes out June 16th
100 Obols it comes out on 22nd
@brisk trail as you play you will gather more resources that will make you stronger still and help you on for fights and while doing that you also get some practice at learning the patterns that the bosses attack so you will be able to get to the end in no time just take your time and have fun!
@thin ibex so it's basicly git gut and die xD Thanks btw I'm sure as Hades that I'll have some fun!
haha yeah i mean death is kinda what makes you go back and upgrade your basic stuff, progress the story and unlock new gameplay elements!
i see your obols and i bet as much in that it comes in the 32nd
wonder what the divide of people who play with keyboard/mouse vs. controller are
the divide is between objectively right people and people who use controllers
I don't even have a controller, so KB/M it is.
yeah i play kb/m and feel like i'm doing something wrong LOL
lol
do different sources of hangover stack?
I just generally default to m&k since I'm more accustomed to it
no, they overlap TTD
feel like i'm beating the hell out of the mouse too
I use kb/m, it just feels better than controller for me
each stack can be from a different source, but the max remains the same
kbm does allow much better aiming, and you can have aiming strategies rather than pray to the auto-snap
so is just the 5 best hangover stacks?
if a new stack is applied from any source, it replaces the oldest - which can be from any other source
oh ok
So yeah, having 2 sources of hangover kinda sucks
I play most steam games via controller unless it's like board games or smth but I do have exceptions like assassins creed where I actually prefer kbm. I play hades via controller though. it's more noticeable who prefers one or the other when it comes to weps like rail
thanks for answering
I prefer controller because I like the feel of it
i started mnk and switched to controller because heightened security
it's weird to say, but even if the feeling with controller is better, I'm better with kb/m, idk why
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Also, on an unrelated note, I caught a bug with a screenshot, but didn't realize f10 saved the current screen. Is there a way to attach a different screenshot to a bug report or am I SOL?
But controller on Hades to too good to pass
360 degrees of movement freedom + aim assist over mouse aim
@cobalt kettle you should be able to change it in menu
KBM feels so weird
which part of the menu?
this is just my own personal observation based on commentary here and on steam boards but I mention it's more noticeable with rail bc more people who play controller find rail to be lacking, while more who play kbm find it their experience quite different. but again that's my own observation
Oh, do I have to literally save an image to my pc and link the file?
honestly rail is my weakest weapon
I tried a single run with KBM and instantly switched to controller
Rail might just be my strongest
Since I don't have upgraded aspects yet
personally, I'm just so accustomed to m&k that I can be a lot more precise in dodging with it
a lot of the high heat runs I see uploaded to yt are rail kbm too
that's interesting since most of the high rail ones i've seen are controller
whenever I try to play say Isaac with controller, I die way more often cause the stick just feels weird to me
Bow 46 and 47 heat are done on Pad
yeah like I said it's just my own observation from what I've seen. obvs it's subjective
only shield 46 is mnk
Mnk = many naked Krashercorr?
Lol true
Yeah the ranged weapons are the hardest to get used to
I actually enjoy bow, it's just rail that I can never find a comfortable setup with
i guess the controller people are mostly those who have used controllers their whole life
Not me
don't think i could ever get used to a controller, too much mouse
I suck at controller. RTS player since the dawn of time
i've used mnk all of my adult life
I'm a kb/m guy
fps player
drat, the screenshot hades took cleared the one I took of the bug >.<
Also we are using anecdotes
it's all preference
The sample size is 5
Never had the money to buy a good pc
I don't think there is a competitive edge between MKB or Gamepad
Bow feels great on kb/m
wouldn't think there would be either, but interesting to see what people prefer
glad to see i'm not doing it wrong playing kb/m
You're never wrong playing with a certain input, it falls down to if that's the best setup for you
For me?
hell, if the best way for you to play is mapping attack and special to a set of bongos, and dodge to a gas pedal, you do you
I like playing Hades with a drive wheel and shift stick, tyvm
i use a rockband drunk drum set
If it is though, I'm both impressed and concerned
I use bananas with electrodes
Hey now
the best is definitely playing hades with a dedicated microwave oven
There was this dude who beat Dark souls 3 using bananas
I'm sure if Hades gets popular enough
B a n a n a s
Reminds me of the various people that played Overwatch on crazy random things. Widowmaker with a baguette and all that stuff.
People will beat the game with weird controller
Like how they do it as a meme in Dark Soul
Maybe the game is too fast paced for it
Nobody will ever beat the dude who beat DS3 with bananas
never underestimate the dedication of people on the internet
I dunno, there's the guy who plays in fighting game tournaments with a steering wheel.
And does pretty darn well, apparently.
Imagine being beat by a dude using a driving wheel at a tournament
That's insult to injury.
there's a well known ex-fgc player who played entirely with his mouth due to birth defects
Fgc?
fighting game community
Ah ty
Odds of the blood price update getting delayed
Hopefully it was already planned for mid to late june to avoid it getting pushed even further 😭
do wish discord would provide a preview of the message being linked but as of last week the update is still proceeding as planned
well i think it best we not spread assumptions about delays unless theres been official word of one, so we dont confuse people....
Thanks for the link
This is a fun game
this is indeed a fun game
Hello everyone! 
I recently met with one ... bug?
When I took the bow with the aspect of Hera, I collected in Cast. I took Cast Dionysus and later paired improvement with Zeus, and then, when I charged Cast in the bow and shot, for some reason one shell exploded beneath me. Is this a bug or what? The fact is that this happened very rarely, but I watched it with myself and my friend.
Or maybe I'm missing something? Or dont know 🙂
bugs can be reported with F10 in-game 
Honestly all I want for the 4th bow aspect is a mix of the blocking of Charged Shot shield and the damage radius of ||Guan Yu|| spear special
A shieldbow would be cool. I think that instead, though, the main attack will fire homing arrows at targets, acquiring more targets the longer it's held down
Source: wild guessing
Charged Shot is always fun, it's just very very slow
ook, i made it to redacted, now let's see how many attempts it will take me to beat them down
Also Temple of Styx is disgusting and i love it, what i don't love is the satyrs and the motherflopping poison
Yeah, Patroclus and Euridyce keepsakes are both good for the last area depending on what you struggle with
ok 👍 i want the spear to reach two stars so i was gonna use it anyway
Also i just used the blood for Hestia's aspect, i find it cool
Patrocles is reaaally good, I just ran it to help me while trying guan yu for the first time and it was a major help
although, side note, I hate that there's a couple of frames after using a call where you can't act but enemies can hit you
cause it got me killed against redacted ;-;
yeah, the boomer doomer is our lord and savior
the redeemer of doomed runs
Is there a fishing bug ? I find only the same spots in the first and last level
are the guan yu aspects all released? I just have the spear for now
Is there a fishing bug ? I find only the same spots in the first and last level
@desert lark No, there just isn't very much variance either
@limpid crown there are two secret aspects currently in the game
Yeah, I was using the spear
mr. final boss charged up an attack right as I hit call, and there was a delay before I could actually dash out of the way, and it killed me
not the first time I've taken damage right as the call animation finished, and it irks me every time
i wonder if they would/could add another weapon
maybe a hammer with tremor attacks and heavy knock away effects
i think 6 is all that was planned for 1.0 but you never know beyond that
wouldn't be surprised if they added either a weapon or something else entirely, there's a conspicuously empty spot next to Exagryph
I'd be very happy with a new weapon yes indeed
kinda sad how sketch-y cerberus' ball looks ngl
I have no idea what you're talking about
haven't you bought that from the contractor?
i apparently have no clear screenshot of it lmao but https://gyazo.com/4ee058006f0d6acb2b9286ed45410385
yeah
Ball.png
that could be the final update
The Ball Major Update
Turns out we’re chasing ||persephone|| because she took the only good ball the House had when she left
Turns out everything was for Cerberus this whole time
What a twist
If the last update just let you play fetch with Cerberus I would not be complaining
There doesn't even need to be anything else in the game
True shot, does it provide a 10% increase for it's damage for any damage done while the enemy has the mark?
The 10% crit damage on true shot only applies to true shot
If you're referring to boiling blood, it applies to attack and special damage done to an enemy with bloodstones in them
thanks @past rune
Np
is there a particular thing you would like to know?
since you are asking a Hades Discord, of course we are going to recommend it.
but I can go into some specific details if you are interested.
@amber moss I had my doubts, but it's amazing.
is it a very grindy game?
I love roguelike games that each run you're a little bit stronger
ahhh
ish
there are so many combinations of weapons, upgrade, that makes each run feel different
you gain resources naturally, you generally don't need to go out of your way to grind
is it a very grindy game?
yes and no. For pure gameplay purposes, it's not grindy
for completionist purposes, yeah it's super grindy
you can, if you want to, but you don't absolutely need to
ahh
basically you have bunch of comestic stuff locked behind a rather large grind wall
but for combat and "tech trees", weapons, etc.
it's not that grindy, at least not as bad as many other games I have played
is there like a penalty or something
nope
don't place as much importance on dying as you would any other game
actually dying is how you progress the story
^
like literally?
yes
oh haha
as a roguelike, dying is expected and part of the experience
yes :d
ahh
like binding of issac
I'm a bit new to roguelike games
SPOILERS: ||even finishing it is dying||
the whole point of BoI is to die and play again
I think Hades is a good entry to roguelike games
And I do play a decent amount of that myself
Of course, there is also a 2 hour period on Steam
if you absolutely hate it, you can get a refund.
as for the gameplay itself, very smooth and fluid
i don't think I'd refund it, it looks great
I was thinking of getting on the epic launcher since it was on sale there
I see
a lot of complexity that gets more complex as it goes on, and supports a lot of different playstyles
fwiw, I sunk 48 hours into the game in the first week
you play as one character, Zagreus
uh... kinda both
you can use different weapons, each weapons can have "sub-class"
the weapons in this game are more akin to classes in other games
so in some sense there are classes, or even sub classes, just different names
ahh
you'd get what we mean in its entirety if you buy it 
this review came out dec 2018 so a lot of visual things like ui and stuff are outdated (also only 3 weps existed lol) and have since changed but much of this review still holds up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbiEbGyQVVU
Hades is an early access roguelite developed by Supergiant Games. This is probably one of the greatest early access builds I've ever played. Tight combat, interesting dialogue and story progression, and stunning visuals. Just about everything you could want, really.
MUSIC: Ha...
ohhh and the voice acting!!!! Mageara 😍
OOF two years ago?
np! if you really like it, you can come back and hang out on this server, too.
2 years past quickly woah
a year and a half!
also if you like stories and great characters, this game has loads and loads and loads
do you know when the updates will end?
theres an update scheduled for this month
and theyre aiming for 1.0 this year some time
v1.0 is sometime later this year
based on how far along the game is so far i would think we're like 2-3 updates out from 1.0 maybe? 🤔 but thats 100% speculation and not factual in the least
Whoa it's been that long since first release
i was looking at my screenshots from a while ago the other day and the game has really evolved a lot... love to see it
looks so much better now, and it looked amazing to begin with
Oh yes! The game keeps looking better and better. Supergiant Games is amazing delivering quality among other stuff 👌
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Oh yes! The game keeps looking better and better. Supergiant Games is amazing delivering quality among other stuff 👌
I agree. Just played the game for the first time and could not stop playing. The gameplay and story are amazing, great characters just invites to exploring

Athena's daily words of wisdom: "Breathe".
owl are you friends?
Athena's daily word of wisdom: people die if they are killed
Athena's daily word of wisdom: every 60 seconds passed in America a minute passed in Africa
proof that athena's dumb: 4 daily words of wisdom in a single day
Poseidon's marine science corner!!! Did you know there was a coca cola can found in the marianas trench? Astounding! If I find the HAHA JOKESTER WHO DROPPED IT THERE THERES GONNA BE ONE LESS SPECIES OF LAND MAMMAL
All of this makes me think what if every Olympian was a teacher 
Or had their "informative corner" lol
Artemis' hunting tips!!: Don't.
Ares & his "how to sharpen your maces" class.
maces, reall?
Ares and his how to hide a body
Yesh.
maces never existedd in the greek world
It was a joke 
of course they did did you never see art of a spartan holding a mace
no? where?
AND YOU SAY YOURE GOOD WITH ANCIENT GREECE!
not really
HASNT EVEN SEEN THE FAMOUS SPARTAN WITH A MACE PAINTING
only the wars, not the specifics
You gotta broaden your horizons buddy cus they definitely used maces. Especially to bonl the persians on the head

Okay om done
the hecc
Where were we
spartans were phalangites
And this turned to a history lesson, but hey, it's good to know Spartans used maces 
shrew
expert ones, but still, no maces
damn it goddamned it im a hell deservin idiot
IM SORRY
i literally googled it
Aphrodite's lesson of how to destroy someone with your thighs
Uhm, guys? Take it easy, will you? 😅
lul
I will just change it to lances 
deleted wrong person peach
I deleted myself
I shall be the judge jury and executioner for my own bull
When it comes to mod actions, I never make mistakes 
the only mistake will be me
are you suuuuuureeee?

