and they seem highlighted
#h1-discussion
brisk trail
narrow hemlock
There is no turning on or off boons outside of selling them in the well of charon
high island
That's just for screenshots, pretty much.
acoustic sand
i only played a few hours, im also confused about how boons stack up cause sometimes one boon replaces another but i can't tell really how it works
brisk trail
oh rly ok sweet
grand knoll
if you want a list of all the boons at once i guess
acoustic sand
oh its just for screenshots, i was also wondering
narrow hemlock
boons replace one another when you're offered one in a position you already have active for another god. like if you have dionysus cast and pick up, say, zeus boons, and you pick zeus cast, it will replace dio cast
brisk trail
id say pretty much mastered arpg combat here
acoustic sand
thats pretty much what i thought but unless I'm crazy i did one or 2 runs where I think I had 2 boons on the attack
or 2 boons changing the special, or dash
narrow hemlock
there's boons that affect those differently
acoustic sand
like, i had one boon drinking health, and one boon boosting attack
grand knoll
i think those are more passive than directly affecting the skill
like ares has a boon that increases your attack, special and cast damage by a %,
acoustic sand
ok cause they said both that they were about "attack"
grand knoll
that doesn't replace an attack boon though
acoustic sand
i wish i could spot it a little better cause most of the times i have no clue if i should pick the boon, if it will replace something better, etc
grand knoll
it will always tell you if it's replacing another boon
acoustic sand
or for instance, if i have a zeus boon already and i go into a zeus chamber, will it give me the possibility to upgrade my boon automatically, or will it offer something to replace it ?
ok, nice
strong furnace
I dont think the same god gives a chance to upgrade a boon. Least I dont think I've seen it
acoustic sand
ok, thanks, i was wondering
worthy egret
they dont
acoustic sand
technically you can have many boons of the same god ?
grand knoll
yeah but they wont offer you a boon that you already have
worthy egret
only way you can upgrade them is throug eurydice or demeter's cultivating
acoustic sand
oh ok
worthy egret
which is a boon whichs name i cant remember
acoustic sand
nectar something ?
grand knoll
so if you take a common boon, you won't get offered that boon again in a higher rarity, but you can upgrade it through other methods like Arti mentioned
or sell it, i guess
acoustic sand
nice
narrow hemlock
gods offering boon exchange will offer a higher rarity for the slot generally
@worthy egret wiki says rare crop
worthy egret
ayyy that one
worthy egret
wikihow, how do you telepathically communicate your intentions to a merciless deity of winter that also happens to be a granny and a mma boxer
acoustic sand
wikihow doesn't know
worthy egret
wikihow how do i telepathically communicate my intentions to deities above the surface
i want to tell athena to have a nice day
sour dust
thank u for supporting athena
acoustic sand
i think Zagreus is the prince of f*** boys
worthy egret
How dare you speak of best boy in that manner
alpine stratus
friendship boys! yes i agree
narrow hemlock
👁️__👁️ hm.
acoustic sand
i said that affectionately
worthy egret
Zag gets telepathy like Hades has (or whatever underworld intercom he is using to talk to us during the run) but he just uses it to wish his friends a good day
acoustic sand
or did i
narrow hemlock
hm
acoustic sand
I mean, like his father and his uncles
boys just want one thing and it's disgusting
alpine stratus
zag grabbing the underworld mic: attention wretches of the underworld. have a nice day :))
narrow hemlock
everyone knows zag is a himbo
alpine stratus
is he tho...... is he DUMB
sour dust
HE"S NOT
narrow hemlock
he's oblivious
sour dust
WHY ARE YOU CALLING ZAG DUMB
acoustic sand
he's adorable
worthy egret
ZAGREUS IS NOT HIMBO LEVEL DUMBASS
alpine stratus
hes not dumb
sour dust
this is blashamy
acoustic sand
he's the hottest piece there is in the underworld, and i'm counting Achilless-Brad Pitt
narrow hemlock
I wanted to go back to sleep and now I'm laughing at how suddenly I caused discourse, love y'all
alpine stratus
i think achilles is a little more himbo bc he doesnt know u can cook onions
worthy egret
He's smart but also... Dumb sometimes
sour dust
ok but his brand of dumb is not himbo dumb
acoustic sand
dumb where it's needed
sour dust
achillies is himbo
worthy egret
[achilles voice] an.. Ti.. Oxi.. Dants?
sour dust
no questions ask
alpine stratus
ant ioxide pants
worthy egret
I AM A WARRIOR NOT A NUTRITIONIST
narrow hemlock
being himbo isn't just being dumb though, it's also having a good heart while sometimes making questionably dumb decisions.
sour dust
only fight, no think
acoustic sand
Don't you love how little Zag calls Achilles "sir" and praises him when Achilles has zero f to give
sour dust
he's just being a nice lad m8
alpine stratus
hes POLITE ok
worthy egret
We sleeping on the bigest HIMBO of all though
sour dust
dude he's so polite to everyone
worthy egret
We sleepin on theseus
sour dust
im
acoustic sand
he's the nicest lad
alpine stratus
THESEUS ISNT KIND
worthy egret
HE IS TO ASTERIUS
sour dust
but he's like
acoustic sand
Theseus is a fratboy
narrow hemlock
theseus is pompous
alpine stratus
u need KIND, BEEFY, DUMB
alpine stratus
HM........
worthy egret
Asterius isnt dumb
alpine stratus
how dumb is he not rly- yeah
acoustic sand
i bet when Zagreus escapes he will forget all the previous reasons and just go around seducing every living
alpine stratus
if he n theseus, like, steven universe fused
worthy egret
Cant imagine Zagreus going around seducing people just for the heck of it
alpine stratus
i dont think so either....
worthy egret
I mean im sure he can do it but he wont because he is a good boy who respects bound aries
BOUNDARIES
alpine stratus
i think that like.....zag falls for ppl easily but hes not like haha be in love with me ;))
AAAAAAAAAAAAA
alpine stratus
hdjfjfjfj
acoustic sand
he's mine, hands off
solid cosmos
why are all the males in the game super hot
alpine stratus
and all the females and the nbs
worthy egret
Oh hell yea skelly
alpine stratus
and the answer is JEN ZEE
acoustic sand
Meg is pretty hot, but then again, i'm gay
solid cosmos
not all females are super hot, demeter for example is super cold
alpine stratus
lolll
solid cosmos
brave thicket
well, who would consider demeter hot tbh
acoustic sand
I like pretty much everyone except maybe Nyx' design
worthy egret
I feel like Zagreus could be p good at flirting
brave thicket
well, i prefer the non descript nyx
narrow hemlock
zag good at flirting lol
acoustic sand
Nyx is a little too common femme fatale for me
narrow hemlock
looks at his than and meg high affection dialogue, doubt
brave thicket
where is his 100?
solid cosmos
with those looks and that voice zag would have 0 problems flirting
pretty much the best of everything
alpine stratus
i think zag is always like.... very Sincere and Open but idk if he does flirting exactly
acoustic sand
Than is not too bad, ive yet to see him in game but ive seen lets plays..Also, got a friend nickamed Than so it's very confusing cause he's adorable too
worthy egret
As much as I love Zag's voice to death, i also love his cryptid accent that just comes and goes
acoustic sand
Thannabelle
alpine stratus
zag makes these like long practiced speeches abt his feelings and i love it
ahhh, i see
acoustic sand
"cheers mate" Zag is British
worthy egret
Thought: scottish Zag
brave thicket
nou
alpine stratus
zag is like. generic fantasy accent
acoustic sand
he's refined
narrow hemlock
oh no flashbacks to scottish pokemon memes
worthy egret
IS THE POPE CATH'LICK YOU CHEEKY TART
alpine stratus
"oh u have an accent where are ur parents from" "uhhhhhhhhh fantasy movies"
acoustic sand
he would be even more refined if he didn't say "hi mate", I mean he's on the verge of saying oi lad when he's drunk
worthy egret
OI LAD
acoustic sand
OI
solid cosmos
OI LERNIE LAD
worthy egret
Cause of death: yelled OI LAD at a fury sister
acoustic sand
lack of proper etiquette
brave thicket
why art thou so crass, friend
worthy egret
I aint a wouldiwas shookspeared
brave thicket
what dost thou mean, frater?
sour dust
look i had whiplash when zag first started speaking like that
worthy egret
im not yoir frater mate
sour dust
he speaks like an aussie and ijust
acoustic sand
you know in France young ppl have this habit of saying "guys" to everyone even girls, like in the US so I thought maybe french Zag could say "bro" to Meg
adding mass confusion
brave thicket
hermaphroditus
worthy egret
Athena: I will have to teach you a lesson though it pains me
Zag: bruh
Athena:
Zag:
Athena:
Zag: just kill me
acoustic sand
i wonder if Zag could have an Aussie accent and what would it sound like
solid cosmos
Athena is the only god that doesn't directly attack zag in the trials
Athena >>>> everyone else
acoustic sand
Athena has good boons
sharp parcel
Zag: "Hey, what up, Meg bro?"
Meg: breaks every other bone in Zag's body
brave thicket
well, i prefer some good ole pain over supposrting the enemy
acoustic sand
lmao
alpine stratus
meg bro(ke every bone in my body)
sharp parcel
existence is pain
acoustic sand
Zag with a strong Scottish / indian accent
worthy egret
Kam firdt thibg my brain did was picturing that sentence in place of the 'there is no escape' in the game over screen
brave thicket
zag with a japanese accent
whats life without a little pain...
acoustic sand
pain is good
alpine stratus
zag and skelly voice swap
worthy egret
BOYO
narrow hemlock
no!!!!
alpine stratus
skellys like "hey hit me mate" and zags like HEY BOYO
narrow hemlock
where's the screaming emoji, kam help
narrow hemlock
Thank
worthy egret
Theseus: GODS STRIKE HIM DOWN
Zag: WAAAA IM AN IMPORTANT TARGET
acoustic sand
lmao
alpine stratus
GHFVHFHJ
sharp parcel
Zag: "But Theseus, I am a god"
alpine stratus
goodnight
worthy egret
HEY HIT ME MATE
brave thicket
wait, is it wrong taht i want zag to live with me so i can punch him to death again and again?
alpine stratus
how could you send him back..... its so hard to get out of there jhgvhjfhj
brave thicket
i want a resident punching bag god
acoustic sand
it must be good to have an unkillable boyfriend
i understand better how mortal women fell for gods
brave thicket
well, remember hyacynthus?
worthy egret
i still wince every time Zag dies or gets slashed by Chaos
acoustic sand
was hyacinthus in love with someone before discovering his reflection ? I don't remember
worthy egret
Bold of you to assume Zag wouldnt fight back Shrew
brave thicket
thats narcissus not hyacynthus
brave thicket
and relax, i will give zag some morphine
worthy egret
You might wake up in hades' house instead of Zag
high island
What is this chat. 
acoustic sand
hyacinthus was Apollo's lover, wasn't he ?
brave thicket
yea
alpine stratus
zag going into chaos doors 🤝 skelly
"hit me"
alpine stratus
chaos: ok [TAKES OUT A THOUSAND OF ZAGS HP]
worthy egret
I wonder if Zag has a scar on that spot since its been so many chaos visits
I mean that does make me wonder, when the styx water fixes his body and purges him of other influences, does it remove the scars
acoustic sand
I mean if there's a divine place for BDSM its gotta be Hades house
brave thicket
well, megaera's hideout is better
alpine stratus
i also think if zag ever wants a tattoo itd be gone
aaaaaaand this where i remind u all to keep it clean folks
brave thicket
kay
alpine stratus
worthy egret
I like the thought of the chaos scar being the only one that makes it
Barely noticeable, but glints with starlight when light hits it
alpine stratus
ohoooo...
brave thicket
where would the scar be
acoustic sand
an unholy location
worthy egret
Its like, on his side, no?
alpine stratus
chaos: aw im the only one you keep around...strangely touching
high island
Wait no, wrong lore.
alpine stratus
ZAGGY POTTER...
worthy egret
YOURE A WIZAR D ZAGREUS
acoustic sand
am i the only one wondering why Zag has a great bed when he never sleeps
worthy egret
IM A WHAT
alpine stratus
the cupboard underworld the stairs
brave thicket
well, he lives in a cupboard technically
worthy egret
I feel like Zag either doesnt sleep or sleeps 20 hours at a time
brave thicket
a big one
high island
@acoustic sand because he's bored.
acoustic sand
fair enough
sharp parcel
Achilles: "Yer a god, lad"
Zag: "Oim a hwat?"
acoustic sand
@sharp parcel lmao
alpine stratus
we see him sleep twice and both, arent great!
worthy egret
Also, the scar looking ugly when he's cursed, and hurting when Zag takes curse damage
Zag please go and have a talk w hypnos
acoustic sand
not that I want to watch him sleep (ok maybe)
worthy egret
I feel like if i touched stygius id die on the spot
sharp parcel
you're not a titan, you'd be fine
worthy egret
I also feel like if someone touched stygius zag would be like >:(
alpine stratus
goes up to the infernal arms like pspspsps with my hand out like im confronting a scared cat
worthy egret
Unless the sord wanted ti be with them
acoustic sand
oohhh Zag with a katana
alpine stratus
lets the face on aegis smell my hand before gently patting it
brave thicket
zag have a katana
acoustic sand
the strongest weapon is Love anyway
high island
The God of ||Feast and Wine|| never sleeps.
solid cosmos
god of ice wine
worthy egret
Remember, do not approach an infernal arm, do not look it in the eye. It is a sign of agression. Kneel to its height. Let it sniff your hand. Wait for it to come to you
This is also why they most often come up to those who dont like infernal arms or are allergic to them (i.e. Titans)
brave thicket
hermes and aphrodite have a child, do they mention it?
acoustic sand
Hermaphrodite
alpine stratus
zag: maybe the real weapon is the friends i made along the way
infernal arms: :(((
zag: no thats you! youre my friends!
infernal arms: :))
acoustic sand
i think he was a boy originally
brave thicket
hermaphroditus to be exact
alpine stratus
i havent seen any mntion of their child in game, didnt even know they had one :0
acoustic sand
well, i don't want to bring trouble, but immortals tend to have strange families
for example Zag
I mean Zeus ||is both his uncle and his grand dad right||
solid cosmos
what do you mean? zag's family is totally healthy, a model family 
worthy egret
ohh never thought of hermaphrodite as hermes and aphrodite. Well there you have it! Earthworms and snails are the children of hermes and aphro
acoustic sand
lmao
worthy egret
Shrew thats,,,, enough
brave thicket
is it inappropriate?
alpine stratus
hey. hey it sounds like we are about to gt into some transphobia and can we not
acoustic sand
technically, Zeus is the father of Persephone, right ?
alpine stratus
not in this game
alpine stratus
a lot of the sketchier aspects of greek myth have been tried their hardest to be written away
in this game
acoustic sand
oh
worthy egret
☝️
acoustic sand
so Persephone has another dad ingame ?
worthy egret
Yep
acoustic sand
oh, interesting
solid cosmos
it's a ||farmer|| iirc
alpine stratus
thats for spoilers pls
strong furnace
Ah, like all the gods not being mean, which I was super surprised by
alpine stratus
i gotta go for a bit sooooo keep it chill folks 
strong furnace
They're so supportive, in most media they aren't lol
worthy egret
Bye kammm
acoustic sand
cyaa
sour dust
zag is legit too nice to everyone he comes across i am sobbing
worthy egret
He's a sweetheart
narrow ruin
ah okay thanks @rugged glacier. Granted I fought his second form for a total of 20 seconds at most so I wasn't able to see the rest of his abilities.
bold kayak
So I realized I made a big mistake xD
Spent 3 Titan Blood on the multi shield throw, which is basically useless compared to other specials xD
clever halo
Why does this game just call her Dusa, anyhow? I mean, nicknames abound in the game, but their formal name usually adorns the text box. Dusa is just Dusa for some reason. (Also, where are her sisters? Just not included or somewhere I haven't gotten yet?)
brave thicket
megagorgons i think
clever halo
I was just curious why they changed the name. Obviously not copyright reasons or anything.
solid cosmos
So I realized I made a big mistake xD
Spent 3 Titan Blood on the multi shield throw, which is basically useless compared to other specials xD
@bold kayak do you mean chaos shield? If so, oh boy are you wrong
solar trail
Only good when maxxed innit
brave thicket
its decent pre maxed
solid cosmos
still i'd hardly call investing in chaos shield a "big mistake"
clever halo
How many levels are there to max the blood upgrades?
brave thicket
V
clever halo
Hey, hey, enough with the Roman numerals. This is a Greek setting! /s
bold kayak
I'm hoping you're right 😅
narrow ruin
@bold kayak What's wrong with it? I was planning to buy it
high island
Hey, hey, enough with the Roman numerals. This is a Greek setting! /s
E.
worthy egret
É
bold kayak
It barely does any damage in it's base Form, even if you manage to hit a foe with multiple thrown shields at the same time
And it takes too much time
narrow ruin
so is Blitz disc a better option?
solid cosmos
most people vastly prefer chaos shield to zeus
chaos shield is considered the overall best aspect in the game
but some prefer zeus to chaos, you should play both and see which fits your playstyle best
high island
Just use the special to apply DOT to practically everything in the room at once.
cunning cape
Yes, chaos shield + special zeus is deadly, and this is only one boon.
worthy egret
I actually prefer zagreus
high island
- This channel is not for discussion. Please discuss feedback in #h1-builds-and-combat.
@worthy egret
@rugged glacier same to you.
Errr . . . #hades-feedback is not meant for conversations.
rugged glacier
sry
i'll continue on subject here then, I guess? (next time, I mean)
subjects* from feedback, I mean
high island
Can save the mods some work and delete the posts.
patent topaz
Why does this game just call her Dusa, anyhow? I mean, nicknames abound in the game, but their formal name usually adorns the text box. Dusa is just Dusa for some reason. (Also, where are her sisters? Just not included or somewhere I haven't gotten yet?)
@clever halo It's because she's Maid-Dusa
Got it? Maid-Dusa? Medusa?
Eh? : D
clever halo
Aaaaaaaaaand that's the story of how my soul died.
rugged glacier
I didn't even realise that until now, lol
clever halo
Yeah, I was thinking of her as a custodian. Custodian-dusa really doesn't work.
brisk trail
I always thought bc of Dust....Medusa....Dusa
strong furnace
So all the Home Decor and Repair things are just extra non-gameplay-influencing things, right?
Like the Work Order ones get you buffs in-game but the rest don't?
Or do they add to the story in some way?
solar trail
Meduster
patent topaz
It's written in her wiki page lol
Also yeah, those things are just cosmetic i think, customization is always cool and having all of the things adds another side goal to the game
spring lava
And you get to listen to your dad whine very loudly about 90% of the things you can dress up the home with
which is a pretty great goal alone
I think theres maybe 2 or 3 things he actually agrees with
hexed grove
I finally walk past cerberus and get to fighting the old man, due to having no mobile boons i death defy until i manage to take him to his knees at 15 hp
Hands are shaking and my brain flooding with endorphins
Then he gets up, FU-
neon escarp
Happened the same to me Wuuj
solar trail
I still see no removal >:(
Time to spam
The chat
So that no people
Will see the spoilers
solar trail
Ye
Rise up
Stand up
Join us
Modern crusaders alive
We have the power
To face the future
Cause we are the fighters
Just fighting for our rights
sour dust
thanks ya'll uvu
terse geyser
lulz
solar trail
Should be enough
sour dust
ppl deserve to be unspoiled
terse geyser
yeah we're good
solar trail
Supergiantgames games are narrative masterpieces
All of their games are so good without spoilers
sour dust
only facts in these chat 😔
the fact that they can stand alone in every aspect and it'd still be good is
👌
solar trail
✊
terse geyser
The first time I beat bastion I cried.
I think hades is the first one that hasn't at any point brought tears to my eyes
it's too happy a game
sour dust
everyone is so nice!!!
solar trail
Yay
sour dust
the main characther is too nice
every game since bastion made me teary eyed
but hades made me feel accomplished
solar trail
Me being a percy jackson hoe and seeing all these gods being nice
sour dust
:))
broken vault
it’s such a breath of fresh air that it brings in the tears
solar trail
The downtimes makes the uplifting moments that much sweeter
I love the camraderie
Reminds me of chilling in the wagon in Pyre
terse geyser
especially when you get a !!! with sound effects next to the character portraits
leaden moon
Between rusk kick, breaching cross and rolling knuckle what would you pick? (twin fists)
echo sapphire
man, breaching cross feels so good
leaden moon
Yeah that seems pretty strong but against bosses it doenst help right?
leaden moon
Thanks for the tip 😄
echo sapphire
yeah, i think i would take breaching cross in general, as I personally have tougher times against med-large groups of shielded enemies with the fists over bosses
terse geyser
basically, armor sucks and you don't want enemies to have it
echo sapphire
haha yes sir
icy cove
Where can I report conflicting info about/on the wiki?
flat vapor
wiki is fan-run, if you want you can edit it yourself
long ermine
i thought that after I'm defeating Meg i wont meet her again
wheat sonnet
I missed the sale. Sad face.
manic bobcat
Yeah I got it on sale. Already had 13 hours in.
Just play Bastion, it's the same thing. /s
narrow ruin
is there a way to reset your Titan blood investments? If not I'll head to feedback
high island
There is not.
terse geyser
but you can always go get more!
high island
Except quit the game before leaving the room. It will reset to when you entered the room.
broken vault
i think someone mentioned titan blood reversing in feedback once!
flat vapor
multiple times
high island
Yeah lol.
narrow ruin
really? lol
broken vault
yeah, no doubt. I haven’t read back far enough
narrow ruin
I don't wanna sound like the 30th guy to say it
solar trail
Smh wouldnt that just make you able to refund and pick another weapon like forever
narrow ruin
I was thinking of like it being a high price
high island
Yep.
narrow ruin
like 1000 darkness
high island
You'll get plenty of Titan Blood from clears later on.
narrow ruin
since after you max out your mirror you don't spend darkness anyway
flat vapor
i mean, if you could clear runs before titan blood, you can do it after spending it
solar trail
man i suffer already on one lmao
broken vault
it’s a hella investment, i think most people’s concerns lie with misinterpreting the abilities of blood unlocks?
flat vapor
there's 240 chances to gain titan blood later + trades and styx shop
solar trail
im not a chad like Nyaa who ||Killed theseus before asterius||
narrow ruin
it's just cause I was stupid and thought you had to max out the first aspects first before you could unlock the others
it was sorta unclear
high island
||They both had a bad hangover.||
worthy egret
doesnt seem too unclear to me
but i get that it can happen since the aspects arent talked too much about until after you get them i guess?
broken vault
would make for a big whoopsies though
wooden fulcrum
Is the blur on character models intended? When I first started playing this game I thought that my resolution was wrong, but it was just that some moving models looked less sharp than others. It feels really noticeable in the training area
And the backgrounds look so nice and sharp it feels like a weird contrast
broken vault
nah you’re not the only one
wooden fulcrum
Yeah I'm getting really close to my screen and it looks like Zag is at a different resolution than the game haha
broken vault
i reckoned it was just an early access thing though. It’s noticeable but didn’t detract much from the immersion for me personally
or maybe Zag just needs glasses
wooden fulcrum
It hasn't really detracted per se it just looks a little off, the game is fine haha
It's weird because some animated parts look fine like the ||pact of punishment || you unlock
manic bobcat
Yeah my Zag model is blurry too if I take a closer look.
broken vault
hades fan theory, Zag's just nearsighted
terse geyser
Everything is crystal clear except Zag's hair
terse geyser
one is green and one is red
never a good sign
manic bobcat
He's wearing contacts, but is too cool for non colored ones.
I think he might indeed be nearsighted lol
manic bobcat
slow claps
manic bobcat
Don't peak so early!
terse geyser
I feel like I recognize the smaller house contractor from somewhere...
high island
terse geyser
"glad to see you made it here, little guy"
just think,
could have ended up in asphodel instead
manic bobcat
House contractor looks like wind bags (?) from Bastion
In fact a lot of enemies in Hades are very similar to Bastion
Looking at you Wretched Thugs
terse geyser
and the louts' charge seems oddly familiar as well.
it totally makes sense that there are so many of them; the Kid was pretty thorough.
chilly schooner
How do I post in feedback? Thanatos seems to get stuck on the geometry of rooms when you're competing sometimes .with him it seems
manic bobcat
Get Early Access role in #bot-commands then post it to #hades-feedback
rugged glacier
@narrow ruin I didn't spend all my titan blood only on zagreus's aspect(s), but in retrospect, I might have done that mistake myself... though I don't remember exactly what was mentioned about aspects once you were able to unlock them (I feel like there might have been a hint in what some characters said, about being able to choose other aspects). Then again, since titan blood in particular takes a while to procure, it wouldn't hurt to add some extra bit of clarity (not really sure how it could be done though)
@chilly schooner wouldn't that also be viable to report as a bug?
a minor one maybe, but still
tropic panther
whats the best rod to catch leghendary fish?
high island
The Zag Aspects are cheap to max out, and they're all pretty good. You can use them to clear and get more Titan Blood pretty quickly.
brisk trail
terse geyser
has anyone even done the previous max?
brisk trail
I think some did max Heat before the rework.
long ermine
Hey guys, I'm seeing this weapon tier menu in videos on youtube (the one you upgrading using blood) but i cant get to it in the game
is it something that unlocks later on?
terse geyser
yes
long ermine
aight
brisk trail
No, but his Call buff boon is super powerful.
Big speed up and Dodge chance for something like 15 seconds after a Call.
orchid zealot
that thge one that boosts movespeed and dodge?
yeah
don't think I've ever picked that, will have to next I see
brisk trail
It's no Billowing Strength, but it's good.
orchid zealot
which one is billowing?
brisk trail
Zeus boon, universal damage up for 15 seconds after Call.
I was wrong on Second Wind (Hermes), it's only 6 seconds.
orchid zealot
ah, well still pretty good
flat vapor
tbf 6 seconds is still quite a while
chilly schooner
@rugged glacier I have a screenshot still, I'm just not sure where to submit it
rugged glacier
in the game you can press F10 to report a bug, but I'm not sure if you can use whatever picture you want
flat vapor
you can paste links to screenshots in the reporter
rugged glacier
you mean like actual directory paths on your system?
flat vapor
not sure, but you could definitely paste imgur links
rugged glacier
oh, right... yeah, I guess that could work
@chilly schooner I checked the game again. when you press F10, the game will take a screenshot of your current screen automatically, so it might not be what you want to submit. And there's no way to alter your screenshot from the F10 menu. So, I guess you could try Onyx's solution
rugged glacier
you're welcome
tropic panther
anyone unlocked the voidskate lore?
rugged glacier
don't know what that is, so... I'll go with No
is that actually a thing in the game?
flat vapor
it’s a fish
flat vapor
it’s one of the chaos fish, so it’s really rare
tropic panther
u guys think the 5% is true? i get legendary fishes 50% of the time
rugged glacier
hmm
worthy egret
and now im starting to think im just slow
rugged glacier
do you need to get something from contractor, or just progress in the game normally, and you get there?
worthy egret
i just want to feel like im not... slow
rugged glacier
me too, lol
tropic panther
i got stonewhal like 5 times in a row
rugged glacier
if thats another fish, its another that I didn't catch yet, lol...
terse geyser
the coolest thing I ever caught was a scyllascion 😢
rugged glacier
in 120 runs
@worthy egret around 50 for me, so far
the coolest thing I ever caught was a scyllascion 😢
@terse geyser same
and I did get poseidon's praise on that one, so one less propechy
orchid zealot
I have the poisoden boon that gives +20% chance to find a fishing point, and I have yet to see one on my fourth chaos boon
worthy egret
i dont even know if chaos fesh count
cause the cooler thing i ever caught was a Mati and i doubt thats cool
i just want cool fish 😦
terse geyser
the fact that poseidon is proud of the scyllascion made that prophecy feel really lame. I mean, you can get it in the first point in ttartarus
high island
Your monitor/TV can add a lot of input lag. That would make fishing more difficult. Or maybe your mouse/pad adds a lot of input lag.
worthy egret
it doesnt even feel slow to me
its like i getit as soon as but i just get the normal fish
high island
Could also be unlucky with RNG when you make perfect catches.
terse geyser
gotta love those perfect catch knuckleheads
rugged glacier
"It's a knucklehead, alright" - Zag, 2020
high island
I've yet to see common fish in Elysium, I think.
crude trail
I almost never notice the fishing in Elysium
but god damn the amount of times I auto hit e without thinking so no fishies
high island
The legendary common ||chlam||.
tropic panther
i love exposed boon
worthy egret
invisible fishing spot, also known as damn it fallen warrior
rugged glacier
invisible fishing spot, also known as damn it fallen warrior
@worthy egret lol. did that actually happen?
worthy egret
twice
rugged glacier
hmm
clever halo
Thunder Flourish with the bow is nice.
worthy egret
ive seen two fishing spots in that room. one has its view blocked by a pillar, and one is invisible due to lighting
game: ding
me, going feral by the second: WHERE
crude trail
weird chaos sound
Me: GIMME THE DEBUFF
rugged glacier
weird chaos sound
Me: GIMME THE DEBUFF
@crude trail shut up and curse me!
terse geyser
fun fact:the "caustic" debuff is good practice for playing malphon normally
worthy egret
I wish the infernal trove audio cue was just a little louder, you need witcher senses to hear it rn
crude trail
theres an sound for it?
worthy egret
yeah
rugged glacier
I wish the infernal trove audio cue was just a little louder, you need witcher senses to hear it rn
@worthy egret i don't have an issue with that, but that's mainly cuz I take a second look usually, lol
terse geyser
don't mess with the profanity bot
worthy egret
i mean it usually isnt aproblem for me but sometimes it is
terse geyser
he'll get you
crude trail
ngl I have never seen a server with a profanity bot
alpine stratus
now you have!
crude trail
they just need to take the old runescape approach of just converting words to cabbages
it was the ultimate censor
high island
how do you only get the rare ones
I do 250~280 msec reactions regularly in fighting games that have probably more input lag than Hades, so the 340 msec for perfect catches are pretty relaxing.
worthy egret
though i do like the fact that the chaos audio cue is a bit louder. almost feels like chaos gently trying to get your attention
alpine stratus
chaos, like theyre trying to call over a cat: psssspspspsps
crude trail
wow its 340ms? thats huge
terse geyser
though i do like the fact that the chaos audio cue is a bit louder. almost feels like chaos gently trying to get your attention
@worthy egret and sometimes he literally says to enter his domain
terse geyser
I knew all my hours of Smash would come in handy for something
that's how I get the good 'ol perfect catch knuckleheads
crude trail
my problem is I have really fast physical reaction speed but brain is potato so I just look at something and don;t react
sour dust
i react so fast that it's too early smh the game can't catch up with me
high island
Technically, it's 340 msec for response time + input lag. Reaction time is just the psychological part. Response time is reaction time + motion time.
crude trail
mine are awake and asleep
worthy egret
my nervous system: i do not see it. i am looking away
upper meteor
Hey where do you go to say "hey weird thing happening"
upper meteor
Gotcha
high island
It's easier if you don't try to tell "fake" pulls from real bites and only look for the flash. Beyond that just practice.
And good hardware can help keep input lag to a minimum.
crude trail
I am so gonna regret using my ambrosia for titans blood one day
terse geyser
It's pretty impressive
rugged glacier
I am so gonna regret using my ambrosia for titans blood one day
@crude trail i don't even know what ambroisa is used for! (if I will actually find that out later in the game, no need to tell me now)
worthy egret
I mean I do think his eyesight isnt human but I always thougt it'd just be like, darkvision. maybe he has fish vision too
crude trail
I also haven't found out either but I don't wanna know either ahha
terse geyser
Poseidon bragging about how nothing is stronger than the sea:
SUNKEN TREASURE
worthy egret
sunken treasure is baller shush
fallen violet
This game is pretty cool. Nuff said
high island
If you get anxious when fishing, that would slow down your reactions, too.
rugged glacier
I still haven't found any fish in the realm of chaos
@upper meteor me neither, but I understand you need a boon from poseidon to increase your chances
brisk trail
I've found 1, in the very first run of the new patch before I had to reset to before the patch.
upper meteor
Yeah that legendary +10%
high island
How is the game cool? There's like magma everywhere, the protagonist's feet are literally on fire, . . .
crude trail
i find 1-2 virtually ever visit tbh
brisk trail
I did not find that Chaos spot again.
worthy egret
demeter is cool
upper meteor
Demeter is not a ice person
worthy egret
ive found two chaos fesh
sour dust
chaos keeps hogging all the fish to themselves MOM
rugged glacier
How is the game cool? There's like magma everywhere, the protagonist's feet are literally on fire, . . .
@high island come on dude, no need to chill his spirit, we got lady demeter in the game for that 😄 (I'm still pissed about what happened when I chose another god besides her, god dang that old lady)
upper meteor
master chaos like "why can't I hold all these fish"
worthy egret
NYX SAID ITS MY TURN ON THE FISH
upper meteor
maybe it's just me but I wish the chaos boons were a little more weird
crude trail
wait I was thinking of styx not chaos, god brain is smol
sour dust
ok when you mean weird, what do you mean exactly
high island
dudess*
brisk trail
They're just flat value ups.
upper meteor
Off the top of my head-yes, exactly
rugged glacier
maybe it's just me but I wish the chaos boons were a little more weird
@upper meteor "Surprise me, Supergiant" - me, 2020
upper meteor
The legendary boon is the only exception, the rest of them just increase certain stats
worthy egret
just ask for more eyes
brisk trail
Which, hey, easy to balance.
upper meteor
I don't fear the old blood
but, yeah, while it is easy to balance, I think what I'd like to see
worthy egret
im sure theyll be happy to give you more eyes
upper meteor
Chaos Duos
sour dust
omg,,, chaos duos,,,,
worthy egret
"Chaos who?" - olympians
sour dust
you now play the game entirely spilt screen
upper meteor
Like, only Chaos can give them
sour dust
one of the boons
rugged glacier
chaos duos might not be a thing tho, since supposedly the olympians should have forgotten about him, feelsbadman 😦
upper meteor
But they affect specifically that olympian'sb oons in some way
sour dust
they don't get enough love 😔
high island
Chaos Duo Boons make no sense within the lore.
sour dust
Chaos just vibing with their flat % boosts
worthy egret
i want to hug them every time in there but theyre so huge
sour dust
yeah
upper meteor
Maybe master chaos makes it so Weak doesn't make enemies weak
worthy egret
pictured: Zag hugging Chaos' finger
flat vapor
maybe not 'duos' but chaos-afflicted
sour dust
i may draw that now
brisk trail
Nyx doesn't have boons, though.
sour dust
ok but like,,, imagine
brisk trail
What Onyx said, some more Chaotic flavoring to the run.
sour dust
like really hard
upper meteor
Yeah duo is the wrong word, but the idea is that chaos warps the core mechanic of the boon
terse geyser
The entire mirror is nyx boons
sour dust
Maybe i just want more of nyx's blessing ;-;
upper meteor
Maybe he turns Ares' doom into a heal for example
flat vapor
one day chaos is out and nyx gives you a chaos boon in their stead
upper meteor
Like it heals you isntead of damaging them
brisk trail
"You're not... You're not wrong."
crude trail
it would be funny if chaos could just randomly change a boon to a chaos one
flat vapor
chaos currently buying food for their space fish rn sorry
upper meteor
Nyx: "I don't know why I'm here. Send help Zagreus. Please."
crude trail
just screw with you
rugged glacier
maybe not 'duos' but chaos-afflicted
@flat vapor yeah, that might work... and even specific voicelines for the occasions too
sour dust
it's like gambling? but with ur boons
worthy egret
chaos curse: you turn of Zag's cthonic darkvision. you cant see anything in tartarus
sour dust
mAYBe it might turn out to be useful... or just... there
worthy egret
shhh
brisk trail
"Some enemies are invisible."
upper meteor
OR, maybe
sour dust
fight in the dark
upper meteor
Chaos gets a few boons that are really strange
crude trail
how about zag is just literally blind
flat vapor
chaos curse: when you get his boon, hermes is forced to shut up
upper meteor
and are really references to other similar titles
worthy egret
@sour dust i can already see the Lout body slamming me
brisk trail
@flat vapor Too cursed.
sour dust
me, even with the lights on 😔
upper meteor
idk I'm just spitballing
flat vapor
every enemy now has a death defiance have fun
worthy egret
@sour dust 🔥 🎡
worthy egret
🔥 🎡
upper meteor
The exalted get four revives
tropic panther
bouldy rewards sucks, 3% of this... 2% of that... really?
worthy egret
AND theyre poppers
upper meteor
And they throw infernal bombs on death
flat vapor
flame wheels with dds... and they explode for each one
worthy egret
TWO bombs
sour dust
chaos curse that makes styx posion not wear off
worthy egret
ive seen this idea before but: chaos mode. your boons are randomized every time you enter a chamber
sour dust
that'd be fun
worthy egret
VAL STOP
flat vapor
for every dash zag has, each enemy also has a dash 😌
flat vapor
all ruthless
sour dust
isn't that just elysium but only the spears
upper meteor
Every enemy now constantly spits out soul butterflies
worthy egret
Chaos mode: everything is randomized. boons, their levels and rarities, your weapon, its aspect, your resources, Zag's accent,
upper meteor
Even the soul butterflies spit out soul butterflies
sour dust
wait zag's accent?
flat vapor
fractal butterflies
patent topaz
I have yet to start playing the game and even i am scared what is this guys 
flat vapor
it's butterflies all the way down
upper meteor
The butterfly moves
sour dust
i disguise
terse geyser
butterflies
flat vapor
SGG HORROR GAME WHEn
worthy egret
soul catchers but every butterfly is a soul catcher but every butterfly is a soul catcher but every
terse geyser
butterflies
sour dust
i wonder if we ever get a garden
patent topaz
NOOOOO
flat vapor
soul catchers but every time you destroy a butterfly the bee movie plays
patent topaz
NOT THE LOUTS NO
sour dust
that'd be a long game, at least
flat vapor
aren't butterflies like... actual souls?
worthy egret
an elysium arrow trap but instead of arrows it shoots flamewheels
narrow hemlock
y'all need a babysitter
worthy egret
wel of charon but the water is lava
flat vapor
@worthy egret that but with heightened security
sour dust
for each sec u have well of charon open u take damage
hot yoke
Can anyone explain what to do to unlock ||bouldy||? I have talked with the requested NPCs leveled my relationship with the guy but the contract doesn't show in the shop.
flat vapor
+400% damage flamewheels 😌
worthy egret
fountains, purge pools and cure fountains are all randomized
patent topaz
y'all need a babysitter
@narrow hemlock you're our babysitter * ^ *
worthy egret
you enter a fountain room but its a purge pool instead
sour dust
they're all the same skin
upper meteor
a room filled with eylsium arrow traps but each time one hits you a tiny vermin is spawned
sour dust
you never know which is it
narrow hemlock
@hot yoke it's rng, if you've got all the prereqs you may still have dialogue to cycle through
worthy egret
every time the tiny vermin is spawned its battle music starts playing over the first one
narrow hemlock
hey guys if someone asks a question can you please not ignore them
rugged glacier
what about a boon from chaos that makes the floor dissapear in certain spots (like holograms or something), and zag falls back a level below? (that would definetely not piss anyone)... or maybe just hide traps, that might be more mild
or, coming back to the blind idea: something like a fog of war ("It's Starcraft time!")
worthy egret
i genuinely dont know the answer
patent topaz
@rugged glacier that and zagreus falls into Erebus and if he fails the challenge he goes back to the previous biome (if he's in tartarus he just dies)
narrow hemlock
generally speaking, I've seen multiple instances where someone asked a gameplay related question and everyone was so wrapped up in whatever random convo going on that no one bothered to answer.
patent topaz
(side note: aw look at Joanne and Greg they're playing the game)
worthy egret
:/
upper meteor
I think it's just random chance that you get the bouldy conversation
narrow hemlock
greg is almost always shown ingame if he's online
upper meteor
There doesn't seem to be a specific unlock for it other than just getting lucky
rugged glacier
wait, you can talk to sisyphus's boulder?...
worthy egret
yes
high island
99% of the time people ask those questions, the answer is keep talking to everyone with a ! on their head or gift more nectar to people.
worthy egret
took me a while to realize this, too
high island
And do more runs.
worthy egret
still doesnt mean we should ignore the qué
rugged glacier
took me a while to realize this, too
@worthy egret my whole life was a lie...
flat vapor
when the convo moves this fast, it's hard to see questions sometimes
patent topaz
wait you didn't know? I thought you could since the beginning o-o
rugged glacier
lol
narrow hemlock
yeah a lot of people legitimately don't realize sometimes the solution is as simple as 'just do more runs til it pops up' either
flat vapor
the answer to many questions asked here is simply "keep playing the game"
rugged glacier
yeah, but not everyone has the patience to go do 100 runs before coming and posting here
not even me, lol
manic bobcat
I want to be spoon-fed solutions instead of my own efforts thank you very much
patent topaz
i know i didn't want to start the game without an ounce of knowledg so i eviscerated every page of the wiki and that's why i probably know but-
narrow hemlock
not having patience is fair, I feel that, but while many events rely on other events happening, the simplest solution truly tends to be 'keep playing'
fallen violet
I ran into 2 armored dudes that shoot purple thingies
sour dust
and then u stop being bad!
manic bobcat
Wavemaker
manic bobcat
That's how my first death happened too
fallen violet
I technically died
My first death was to a thingy that turns you to stone
and the crusher
both armored
ouch
narrow hemlock
Oh the power couple
manic bobcat
I hate that mini boss lol
sour dust
i
fallen violet
Almost beat it, but the fire did 2 damage and killed me
sour dust
hate them
fallen violet
I had 1 HP
sour dust
with middle management on it is even worse
quaint bramble
I do not like the Gorgon/skullcrusher miniboss Lmao
manic bobcat
They are not tough, just take so long to kill
worthy egret
god the middle management power couple HURTS
quaint bramble
Give me the alternative barge fight any day over them
narrow hemlock
sometimes my load out is bad and I suffer, and sometimes my load out is sexy and I kill them in seconds. never an inbetween
sour dust
barge is so much fun
worthy egret
barge is my favourite fight in the game ngl
narrow hemlock
barge of death is always there for you
patent topaz
I also hate the pests wtf HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO AVOID THE EXPLOSION IF IT TAKES HALF ROOM
quaint bramble
Alexa play “The Bloodless”
sour dust
you dont
patent topaz
fallen violet
That fight was cool and all
but I had a bow so I ran the whole time
Camping simulator
patent topaz
She has a... peculiar voice. There's some filters so it makes her sound more mystical(?) than i would expect (not to mention it's so... spiky- i suck at adjectives)
flat vapor
barge of death middle management is fun and reminds me of old hades days
high island
Avoid explosions by killing pests before they can throw explody things.
quaint bramble
Do Pests seem to retain the ability to throw multiple bombs even though their armor is broken sometimes? Feels finicky to me
patent topaz
h-how they bounce and bounce and bounce everywhere
fallen violet
Well I have to fight her with the sword, time to die
manic bobcat
How do you dodge the Satyr attack?
brisk trail
Pray.
quaint bramble
Once again, you don’t
flat vapor
i believe any enemy with armor is considered elite and will retain their elite moveset after the armor breaks
high island
Dash-strike spam is how.
brisk trail
it's about as effective as prayer is at stopping bullets
rugged glacier
h-how
@patent topaz you get used to it. after a while it will become more bearable... you can still get unlucky, but that's the nature of a fight with pests
flat vapor
pray you don't see the big satyr
brisk trail
Also correct, Onyx.
manic bobcat
Wait can you really not dodge satyr?
brisk trail
You can, it's just extremely hard.
manic bobcat
I'm new so be gentle.
brisk trail
I swear, I mash the space bar with Divine Dash and still get poisoned most of the time.
high island
Just punch the poison darts back at them.
karmic laurel
Can someone explain to me how the Eris Aspect works?
I use my Q and then I gain a power boost?
brisk trail
Stand in the reticle when the bomb lands to get the boost.
flat vapor
there's a small visual + audio cue where the satyr pulls their head back and sounds like it's coughing
rugged glacier
usually I rely on athena's divine dash when fighting satyr... if I don't have it, then I panic most of those fights, lol... well, I am starting to manage better though... until I found out there';s satyrs that shoot in 3 directions, god dammit 😦
karmic laurel
Can someone help me with the Eris Aspect?
How does it work?
I use my Q and I gain a power boost?
brisk trail
Stand in the reticle when the bomb lands to get the boost.
brisk trail
The targeting reticle.
brisk trail
You should play a bunch and use what you like most.
high island
I can hold attack down with epic attack speed from Hermes, Rolling Knuckle, and Divine Strike, and poison darts will still somehow make it through.
flat vapor
eris buffs all damage, so really you can build anything
patent topaz
the gun reminded me of jinx from lol which in turn reminds me of harley quinn and now suicide squad has a whole new meaning oof
quaint bramble
Hit yourself with whatever explosion your special produces might be a more visually accurate way of phrasing it. Gun special is super versatile. You could build it any number of ways
flat vapor
eris is great for cast builds, special or attack builds, etc
fallen violet
nvm beat her on like 10 hp
sour dust
gun and the hammer uprades makes the entire wepeon so versitile
rugged glacier
my advice for the gun is get zeus lightning or dyonisus hangover for normal attack, and daedalus upgrade for special (5 bombs, baby)
brisk trail
"Stand in the target when the bomb lands" isn't visually accurate?
sour dust
where u can just spam the bomb in the area
crude trail
i like the 3 bombs with rocket upgrade
upper meteor
and for everything else
crude trail
just clap anything
karmic laurel
@rugged glacier On my first run I got epic zeus lighting
upper meteor
I got rocket with the 3 bomb upgrade
upper meteor
It felt like I was cheating
Titan Rail is kind of... I think it needs a bit of a change
The special is the best thing about it
high island
It's kinda hard to make a bad build with Exagryph. Just shoot at things and things will die.
upper meteor
I've been using the base because that's the one I upgraded first before really getting that the special was so busted
brisk trail
It's still most people's go-to for high Heat.
upper meteor
There weren't any plans to introduce new weapons right?
Just finishing off the weapon aspects on the ones there are?
deep pivot
I've used Hestia to claim almost all my Exagryph's bounties, but I used Eris for the 32 heat clear
brisk trail
No and yes.
upper meteor
Gotcha
brisk trail
I didn't start using Hestia until after I had finished my Rail bounties.
deep pivot
I figured Eris is much better to handle big buffed mobs than Hestia
brisk trail
Most people I've spoken to liked Hestia for 32.
upper meteor
If we're going for historic hero weapons on the final aspects, I'd really wish that the bow is the bow of genghis khan
brisk trail
If you spawn into Piercing or Explosive Fire you absolutely skyrocket its CC potential.
deep pivot
I know I'm the minority, Schpoon. Don't twist that knife, no more 
brisk trail
Hey, I'm with you, I used Eris, too.
quaint bramble
Aspect of Eros/Cupid as another option?
deep pivot
Cupid is from the Roman pantheon so it would be Eros
upper meteor
But these seem to be humans they're referencing
quaint bramble
Yes but they’d probably want to differentiate it from Eris by more than one letter
upper meteor
Though Arthur is dubiously real, Guan Yu probably is
tropic panther
shield is ridiculous, hold one button and dont die, then press another button and deal a lot of area and single target damage
brisk trail
Guan Yu was 100% real.
upper meteor
There you go then
brisk trail
Not everything written about his life was, but he is a historically real person.
upper meteor
So it's historically real and mythical humans for these final aspects
At least that's the trend so far
brisk trail
Legendary weapons, I'm seeing.
rugged glacier
shield is ridiculous, hold one button and dont die, then press another button and deal a lot of area and single target damage
@tropic panther it is, and it's also fun 😄 but yeah, I get that it looks kind of ridiculous and op, but it also has some weaknesses (enemies from behind, for the most part)
brisk trail
Exalibur, the Frost Fair Blade.
patent topaz
what about the fists' 4th aspect?
brisk trail
I want the Aspect of Steve on Aegis so much
upper meteor
I can't think of any famous fists off the top of my head
If it's famous weapons and not - well I mean
jolly lodge
I want an Aspect of Skelly on all weapons
upper meteor
the spear of guan yu isn't a mythical weapon is it
rugged glacier
I want the Aspect of Steve on Aegis so much
@brisk trail who?
upper meteor
It's more about the man than the weapon
brisk trail
Steve Rogers.
patent topaz
maybe it will be about someone who just used brute force and not actual weapon fists
rugged glacier
oh
deep pivot
Uhm, I never pick Delta Chamber tbh