I went into the minotaur and spear guy battle with an aoe damage setup
#h1-discussion
potent silo
and ended up getting the spear guy below half hp
before killing the minotaur
big mistake
modern garnet
Did you still end up winning?
delicate arrow
Just got hunting blades and vicious cycle in tartarus
This run is going to be fun
warm dove
Smoothie Hades incuming
delicate arrow
Killed Tisiphone in 10 seconds
brisk trail
...How?
delicate arrow
Hunting blades , vicious cycle, hunters mark, deadly strike , black metal
brisk trail
Man, I haven't had a start like that maybe ever. If it has happened it was a long time ago.
delicate arrow
Yeah.
And now I have drift dash, 2 extra dashes , engulfing vortex and pressure pointd
warm dove
drift dash is a waste
u just need to for find double cast
return cast
rapid cast
and drift effect
delicate arrow
Didn't find them
and drift effect
@warm dove you mean the double movespeed on dash?
Or dodge?
delicate arrow
Yes
brisk trail
Drift Dash and extra dashes is redundant, but I'd take Common Drift Dash over common Greatest Reflex.
warm dove
its gonna be a massacre
double cast more cast
like 6 cast with double is 12 blade rift each of them have vicious cycle
delicate arrow
@warm dove will try
warm dove
omggggggggggggg
warm dove
A MASSCACRE
delicate arrow
I've had that once actually > like 6 cast with double is 12 blade rift each of them have vicious cycle
@warm dove
delicate arrow
And snow burst
Got hide breaker now
just found 3 artemis boons and a demeter boon at styx
if i dont get decent boons imma flip
first boon : clean kill
second: support fire
3rd: ares' aid
4th: common dual shot
yikes.
warm dove
lul
delicate arrow
5th : wave of despair
and arctic blast
h well
have 4 dd though so im good vs hades
what a surprise that he died quickly
potent silo
@modern garnet nope, dealing with minotaur + dude's god mode was too much
those circle things force you to stay in place
allowing the minotaur to constantly bash you
merry harbor
If you want some advice on that, focusing down Asterius is the common tactic for that version.
merry harbor
Since Theseus doesn't really do much beyond make a nuisance of himself there.
potent silo
Wait, Asterius being the minotaur or the spear guy?
merry harbor
Minotaur, sorry.
potent silo
Yeah I get you, I think I took on some AOE casts and abilities that run that kept me hitting Theseus, eventually Theseus was lower than the minotaur so I ended up focusing him instead
and yeah that didn't go well
I'll focus on the minotaur solely next time, thanks
merry harbor
Good luck!
shadow siren
Who could it be?
fiery pebble
Wings feel a bit odd for Nyx
But were not getting a new character from what we know
wet reef
those are broken wings though
calm hawk
I'm more curious on what waepon could it be
fiery pebble
And there are only 2 left without art
modern garnet
lookin like a chandelier
vivid prairie
please stop i can only get so erect
fiery pebble
Its Demeters weapon
calm harness
looks like a flower
marble sphinx
the thing that's throwing me off is that that's clearly a hand in the lower right
wet reef
Also I think those are two characters
fiery pebble
Personal bet remains scythe
vagrant flint
АААААААААААААААААААААААААААААААААААААААААААААААААААААААААААААААА
soft vault
HYPE
little inlet
woaj
deep spade
crab legs????
marble sphinx
it could be two portraits superimposed i guess
vagrant flint
WHAT'S IT GONNA BE?
little inlet
who that?
wet reef
The one with the weird hair is in the background
the one with the hand risen is in the foreground
cerulean rover
I wonder are they adding apolo for the next update?
deep pivot
1 week hype 
marble sphinx
i think they're done with olympians? at least boon granting ones i believe
wet reef
"A powerful new Titan-slaying weapon awaits, plus plenty of new artwork, story, and surprises. Until then!"
coral axle
fiery pebble
I think its just one character
brisk trail
yall ready for new nyx art??
lime schooner
hype
wet reef
looks weird to be one ngl
fervent island
maybe its new nyx
cerulean rover
dayum
fervent island
hoping that its a new god
cerulean rover
oooooh
cold wraith
anyone else get issues looking at that announcement on mobile
cerulean rover
true
fiery pebble
Cant be a new god
cerulean rover
has to be
fiery pebble
Were done with em
merry harbor
The stars on the hat seem like that could be Nyx?
fervent island
are we?
brisk trail
didnt they say they were adding only 1 more Olympian
wet reef
For now
calm harness
yeah i'd bet it's nyx
fervent island
dang
cerulean rover
look at the pic they posted on #announcements
fiery pebble
Its probably Nyx
merry harbor
They have plans for one more but Demeter is too new.
wet reef
Demeter was the last Olympian for now
brisk trail
true true
marble sphinx
the wings could be like, on a hat or crown maybe
vivid prairie
i really hope nyx won't look like Charon with a half face
fervent island
yeah i was thinking like
knotty epoch
why would they put two silhouettes together? that's like that episode of pokemon where they clearly show a voltorb for who's that pokemon but it's jigglypuff from above
fervent island
hera or something witht the crown and stuff
fiery pebble
Nyx was often depicted with a Veil
fervent island
that makes sense
wet reef
thats how they did it with Sisyphus and Bouldy
putting their artworks behind each other
stray jay
They definitely would put two silhouettes together. They did it for the update that added Orpheus and Eurydice portraits.
wet reef
and the shilouette looked really weird
marble sphinx
@knotty epoch i believe they had asterius and theseus' silhouettes on their update?
oh yeah and that one too
fiery pebble
Plus that looks like Grandma hair
stray jay
It absolutely looks like Charon in front, and Nyx in the back.
rugged fractal
Hm, I suppose last Olympian would be Persephone, available only after completing the game
fervent island
then yeah its probably new artwork
lime schooner
dont know chief looks like one massive silhouette to me
wet reef
I hope the update allows me to win again
merry harbor
The announcement mentioned new artwork
wet reef
;w;
fervent island
im hyped for the new weapon though
lime schooner
ouh yeah
wet reef
SAME
scarlet star
hey who dat
fiery pebble
It also looks like one silhouette to me
fervent island
it is one silhouette
cloud jewel
yeah same
winged spade
What if it is Persephone? 👀
lime schooner
WAIT
cloud jewel
OOH
lime schooner
it's not one nor two
inner arrow
I see a single silhouette too
knotty epoch
the thing about those two examples is both the characters go together and aren't overlayed on top of each other
fiery pebble
But yeah its the wings that confuse me
lime schooner
it's THREE silhouettes ohohohaohaooahoahhao
knotty epoch
it'd just be stupid for them to stack them exactly
fervent island
it doest make sense i dont think
fiery pebble
Neither charon
wet reef
I mean thats their goal
fiery pebble
Nor Nyx
wet reef
to make us guess
fiery pebble
Were associated with wings
marble sphinx
the more i look at it the more it looks like one person with a winged helmet
knotty epoch
nyx in orphic myth was a bird at creation
cloud jewel
who is, besides apollo and hermes?
inner arrow
The wings part feels like a hat thing to me
fiery pebble
Icarus I suppose
rugged fractal
heres to hoping for zagreus car aspect
@fervent island no, it should be Nunchaku!
🙂
fiery pebble
Thanatos also in some depictions
raw swan
Is the shilouette news?
cloud jewel
ICARUSS
fervent island
i just want zag to just
lime schooner
i see new bow aspect, nyx redesign, n another figure which is unclear
raw swan
As In has been seen before?
fervent island
mow down enemies with a semi
wet reef
Thanatos didn't really have a scythe either but the whole grim reaper thing gave him one
inner arrow
That would be interesting
cloud jewel
titan-slaying weapon, pretty sure
fiery pebble
Titan-slaying weapon
fervent island
ok
fiery pebble
All of the weapons are that
fervent island
maybe its a new character though? 😮
fiery pebble
Theyre the weapons the 6 Elder Gods used when fighting the titans
remote moat
wtf is that new design
winged spade
I wish for Hecate, but she is almost always with torches
fiery pebble
The only one were missing
inner arrow
Legit I want a double bladed axe or a scythe
remote moat
probabyl liek charon ?
fiery pebble
Is Demeter
fervent island
uranus?
raw swan
or a chariot e.e.
inner arrow
Something with wide, slow movements
remote moat
or nyx
fervent island
mmmm
fiery pebble
Its Demeters weapon
raw swan
They said a LOT of artwork
fiery pebble
So its got decent odds of being a Scythe
cloud jewel
a scythe would be super cool too
raw swan
So maybe we are getting all placeholdered characters
lime schooner
uranus was pre-titan @fervent island
winged spade
Scythe is also Kronos' weapon
wet reef
I MIGHT be really shiny hat
hidden void
I thought she had the admantium sickle in myth
gilded depot
i was thinkjing axe cuz of out favorite bull helicopter boi
wet reef
like a crown
uncut gazelle
That silhouette looks like someone with a glorious mustache
finite jacinth
Helios
marble sphinx
https://imgur.com/a/IUQiUnS definitely looks like one person to me
fiery pebble
Its probably Nyx, yeah
warm elbow
Hello, a Scythe could be sick, it could create new interactions with Thanatos
fiery pebble
But the design is strange
winged spade
Is it a hand in top right as well?
lime schooner
yes there's a hand
fiery pebble
Nyx is often shown with a veil, but the veil is quite large
fervent island
god the things id do for apollo boons
marble sphinx
the wings look off center from the helmet
raw swan
It's obviously ||Hades with a wig||
marble sphinx
so maybe it's something else....the weapon or something
fiery pebble
No association with wings
rugged fractal
What about stars around the head?
winged spade
Inb4 those are actually the Fates stacked on top of each other
fervent island
maybe ribbons?
knotty epoch
Nyx in Orphic creation myth is a BIRD
fervent island
something akin to that
rugged fractal
Seems a little bit too flirty for Nyx
marble sphinx
yeah i assumed ribbons
cloud jewel
idk, could be a real flirty nyx?
lime schooner
LOL
fiery pebble
Could be another veil
cold wraith
or maybe they’re birds
fiery pebble
But the veil seems too thin for Nyx
uncut gazelle
a really flirty hades in a wig
fiery pebble
But its probably Nyx
warm elbow
What about Astraea
fervent island
hades as a lady
gilded depot
yea its probably just artmork for nyx
fervent island
😉
stray jay
The front looks like a robed character, who has urn handles on the sides beginning at the shoulders. Looks like Charon to me. Back one would be Nyx then.
marble sphinx
new olympians are pretty unlikely at this point
cloud jewel
a real flirty charon???
last cloud
I love this "Guess this Pokemon" stuff haha
gilded depot
lmao
gilded depot
flirty bou charon
stray jay
His hand is up cuz he wants your money
gilded depot
will just murmur
last cloud
I'm assuming Hera? Zeus wife.
little thistle
I’m gonna say Nyx or Charon, based purely on the fact that with the announcement before Demeter, they announced a new Olympian, but they didn’t say anything about it.
iron fog
its theseus's newest arena outfit
winged spade
Wait, we still miss Hestia from Olympian gods
cloud jewel
and hephaestus
fiery pebble
Were missing a bunch of Olympian gods
rugged fractal
Emm... could it actually be a man?
winged spade
And Apollo
fiery pebble
We arent getting all of them
cloud jewel
i want fire boons
gilded depot
yo
winged spade
But fire boons, exactly
gilded depot
hephestus would actually be so cool
fiery pebble
Hephaestus and Hera are the ones that are deconfirmed I think?
cloud jewel
unless we get hades boons, which would not make any sense
fervent island
g string charon
winged spade
Hephaestus and Hera are the ones that are deconfirmed I think?
@fiery pebble really?
uncut gazelle
Hephestus would just be weird at this point, since we already have deadalus as the big inventorman
rugged fractal
Hera was a b***h
fiery pebble
Hera for sure
stray jay
If there was going to be a new Olympian they would have said that. It seems like there's only one "major" addition each update (Olympian, Weapon, Area, etc.). Since we're getting a weapon, there's definitely not an Olypmian
gilded depot
but i feel like daedalus is here so idk why hephaestus would be added
fiery pebble
I think Demeter has a line about it
rugged fractal
So yeah, we don't need her 🙂
stray jay
They said no Hephaestus in their Q&A
fiery pebble
Hephaestus I think because they originally planned the hammer to be Hephaestus'
But decided against it
cloud jewel
aw beans
winged spade
Idk who could have stars around head
stray jay
Nyx, Incarnate of Night
marble sphinx
hasn't every preview had stars like that
fiery pebble
Yup
cloud jewel
alright, i'm betting either apollo or nyx
fervent island
itd be cool for the daedalus hammer to have some sort of interaction though
winged spade
So we're getting sleep status? Could be interesting
warm elbow
Well the silhouette shows moons and stars so its probably the night itself
stray jay
And Charon in front
marble sphinx
oh wait no, i see what you mean
right, i thought you meant the little halo that every character gets
stray jay
I'm still convinced
finite jacinth
@fervent island yeet daedalus hammer at Hades to trigger phase 2 at the cost of 1 less upgrade
knotty epoch
Just a reminder that skirting the swear filter like that still isn't allowed @rugged fractal
rugged fractal
Just a reminder that skirting the swear filter like that still isn't allowed @rugged fractal
@knotty epoch got it. Sorry.
winged spade
I feel like the top is a crown with wings and stars
marsh jackal
Just call hera a real bad girl
cloud jewel
a real rowdy one
marsh jackal
Same potency
rugged fractal
That's kinda ambiguous 🙂
marble sphinx
the wings are off center, which makes me think they're from something else
raw swan
Gets Hera
Zag: But I asked for Herakles :/
fiery pebble
Alright so
rugged fractal
Hm... I would like to see Phobos and Deimos as side characters at some point.
inner arrow
They could be off center because the Sprite has the head tilted in a direction
fiery pebble
Apparently there are more modern interpretation of Nyx that associate her with crows?
Which could explain the wings
inner arrow
Like just looking to the left
winged spade
I'm down with the Nyx proposition, seems most probable
serene yarrow
So when does the update actually happen? In game it says 8 days from now, which is March 11th, but they said Mar10.
cloud jewel
updates usually happen on tuesdays
rugged fractal
Or maybe even like twins who gives Boons related to fear (debuff)
fiery pebble
Maybe its just a bird that is alongside Nyx in her artwork
cloud jewel
and they announced march 10th, the in-game counter just hasn't updated yet
marsh jackal
The new update will add a new weapon but do you guys know what else?
civic prism
Nyx as Olympian in the house raising a kid with someone who hates not only the two of them but all Olympians..k then
cloud jewel
plot twist: it's a whip and meg is like ?????
fiery pebble
Kinda like Artemis has owls in her artwork
civic prism
Lol Meg is best girl
uncut gazelle
The entire set of olympians is as dysfunctional as it can get
marsh jackal
I think it’s odd artemis has owls in her artwork then athenas keepsake is owls pendant
gilded depot
its cuz athena is holding one no?
worthy dagger
It’s to represent wisdom right?
civic prism
Owls are associated with wisdom, not exactly hunting
gilded depot
like the same owl that looks like teh pendant
cloud jewel
wisdom and also the eyes of the forest
warm dove
NEW WEAP NEW ASPECT NEW BOON 
civic prism
That's more of a falcon territory
merry harbor
Owls have traditionally been associated with Athena since she was worshiped.
gilded depot
i want an axe
fiery pebble
True but it also makes sense for Artemis to have some association with them
Since they are hunters
gilded depot
i want to become bull boi
fiery pebble
Some of the most effective ones
rugged fractal
Those are not owls on Arthemis' bow
uncut gazelle
I think if it's an axe/scythe and it does have like, an Aspect of Asterius, there'd need to be some explaining on how the minotaur got ahold of a titan slaying weapon while zagreus was also using it
rugged fractal
what about nike
@fervent island you mean goddes of victory?
fervent island
yeah
rugged fractal
Isn't she from Roman pantheon?
fervent island
victoria is the roman part
nike is greek
idk im just going based off silhouette
rugged fractal
We still have Apollo from High Pantheon.
wind rivet
I think shes someone we already know/have hears of
uncut gazelle
Nike was greek, and had that moment after the battle of marathon where the messenger supposedly showed up in...Athens, I think? Shouted NIKKE and dropped dead
fiery pebble
Were not getting a new god from what weve been told
fervent island
not as a god but just a character
tiny sorrel
I think I would prefer if it was a heavier weapon like an axe/hammer/mace/greatclub
wind rivet
I want apollo too but thats probably not happening
fiery pebble
Wouldnt make much sense for minor gods to be entirely honest
fervent island
idk how theyrd include minor gods from the pantheon
wind rivet
Yeah there are some characters in the underworld they havent touched
tiny sorrel
either that or something more unusual like a ball and chain where you don't control the weapon so much as you control your position as the weapon does it's thing
wind rivet
Particularly heroes
knotty epoch
(just fyi those aren't owls with Artemis; those are quails)
fervent island
hmmm
rugged fractal
@fiery pebble IDK. Those would be great as having not variable boons, but like single boon, quite specific
wind rivet
My favorite underworld character they havent used yet is Adonis but that shadow is almost certainly not him
tiny sorrel
IDK what Greek mythical figures might have used a flail or something similar though
uncut gazelle
Heracles prolly did at some point
iron fog
maybe a club? heracles used one
proven briar
WHIP
wind rivet
Greek heroes used spears and shields
proven briar
oh wait
fervent island
whip weapon
proven briar
brass knuckles would also be cool
wind rivet
Because they were greek
fiery pebble
It has to be a weapon that you would expect Demeter to use
tiny sorrel
I was kinda surpirsed the golden fleece hasn't shown up yet
proven briar
demeter...
fiery pebble
And dont get me wrong, Demeter is ice-cold
uncut gazelle
....were flails really a thing back then? A lot of weapons that we take for granted as being "old" are a lot more recent than we give them credit for
fiery pebble
But I cant see her using Gauntlets
tiny sorrel
@proven briar oh yeah a brawling weapon would be dope
cloud jewel
honestly, a scythe Could work
proven briar
scythe....? like for cutting wheat and all
rugged fractal
oh maybe sling?
fiery pebble
Scythe is probably the most likely one
proven briar
hmm but i wonder how they'd fit that in with scythe cuz
cloud jewel
the axe is actually an electric guitar
rugged fractal
But, actually, guys, do we even need to consider if weapon was ever used in Greece when we have Adamant Rail? 🙂
cloud jewel
YOU RIGHT
tiny sorrel
New Weapon Unlock: Become skilled with the Lyre, begin Bard run
cloud jewel
WE HAVE GUN
wind rivet
Hoplite warfare used shield and spears with like a dagger/sword if the shield line fell and you were about to die
fervent island
YES
fiery pebble
Flails are 15th century
proven briar
BARD RUN
wind rivet
BARD ZAG WOULD BE SICK
rugged fractal
Oh! I like the idea of @tiny sorrel
fervent island
laid out already
proven briar
oh wait
fiery pebble
And eh, consider that the gun was Hestias weapon
proven briar
hmmm dagger..?
uncut gazelle
Okay I thought so, 12th-15th had a huge boom in weapons getting developed
tiny sorrel
@rugged fractal thanks!
fervent island
god
fiery pebble
And technically there were forms of fire-arms back then
cloud jewel
dual daggers would also be really cool
fervent island
demeter and the railgun
cloud jewel
assassin zag
fervent island
is so nice
proven briar
DUAL WIELDING
wind rivet
Yeah I wouldnt worry about warefare history we have a gun
fiery pebble
I mean hell there were crossbows
proven briar
wait the daggers would actually be really cool
fervent island
but we already have a bow wepaon
proven briar
rewards single target dmg
cloud jewel
hades may cry
fiery pebble
Gun is just a crossbow using fire
fervent island
wouldnt make much sese for a crossbow
proven briar
assassin time!
fiery pebble
Nah I mean
wind rivet
Bows were a persian thing and they were on horseback
fiery pebble
The gun still makes (relative) sense
dull lark
What about the Caduceus?
proven briar
trample on em
tiny sorrel
@proven briar that would be real tough to handle the hordes without some kinda area dmg
cloud jewel
zag: these are my hooves
rugged fractal
Hm....
uncut gazelle
I know the bets are off concerning weapons in the game, but talking 'bout historical stuff's always fun
rugged fractal
Guys, weapon is expected to have third aspect related to one of the Olympians
hidden void
I do like the idea of a staff get some hecate representation in
proven briar
zag throws knives..... maybe in some hammer upgrade it could be that there are explosions when they land on the ground
rugged fractal
So whip does not seem like relatable.
proven briar
or when you pick them up
fervent island
i can see the possibility of a scythe though
cloud jewel
we don't have an aphrodite aspect right?
fervent island
ngl
fervent island
in the titanomachy
tiny sorrel
I feel like a scythe would be a spear unlock rather than it's own weapon
fiery pebble
The eye of UWU actually brought up a good point in #h1-story-discussion , Chaos themselves have wings on the side of their head
wind rivet
Greeks would wear heavy armor with this huge shields and poke their spears through. If the shield line fell, you were dead, put you could also stab someone with a sword as a last resort
fiery pebble
So it wouldnt be strange for Nyx to also have wings
rugged fractal
we don't have an aphrodite aspect right?
@cloud jewel but we have Hera aspect, and she's not in the game
fervent island
repeat the cycle
uncut gazelle
I think scythe has the biggest chance of being in there, with a possible cronus aspect and demeter aspect
wind rivet
Honestly swords are way overrated
proven briar
at this point im just like
rugged fractal
The eye of UWU actually brought up a good point in #h1-story-discussion , Chaos themselves have wings on the side of their head
@fiery pebble damn, mate 🙂 You spoiled all the fun 🙂
signal spoke
Let's keep it safe for work in here folks 
proven briar
throwing stuff out there
fiery pebble
Cant be a Demeter Aspect
tiny sorrel
is the new weapon confirmed to be something related to Demeter?
fervent island
sorry sorry
fiery pebble
No wait
fervent island
HAHAHAA
fiery pebble
Has to be a Demeter Aspect
fervent island
i got excited 😳
deep spade
the new weapon is a ranged weapon
proven briar
wait what
fiery pebble
I confused myself
wind rivet
Most of human history war was with spears- the superior weapon
fiery pebble
Carry on
cloud jewel
it may follow the theme of range, yeah
fiery pebble
Anyway, yeah, Scythe or Sickle makes sense
proven briar
me, throwing stuff on the dartboard: please stick pleast stick please stick
fiery pebble
Id say Scythe
wind rivet
Like thanatos
fiery pebble
Because that would allow for a Thanatos Aspect
uncut gazelle
Also I'm pretty sure the fourth locked aspect is goign to be for something outside of Greek culture, hence Guan Yu getting repped
proven briar
OH
fiery pebble
And make great thematic sense
tiny sorrel
Maybe we get a Sarissa, 20ft long spear, attack with melee at Coronacht range
rugged fractal
Chains of Olympus maybe? 🙂
fervent island
but what would the daedalus for the sickle be?
fiery pebble
And allow for the weapons to have more design space
fervent island
i dont have any clue
cloud jewel
depends on how it would play
fiery pebble
Because a tiny sickle is gonna look weird alongside the other massive weapons
deep spade
we have 3 melee weapons and 2 ranged weapons
three melee on the left side of the armory, 2 ranged and one empty slot on the right
rugged fractal
Ranged, but attached
uncut gazelle
so if it is a scythe we could see like, an Anubis aspect, or excalibur as the sword's fourth
fervent island
ooo
cloud jewel
would you do something similar to theseus where you have a big spin attack?
fervent island
getting some egypt in the game
proven briar
excalibur would be classic
fervent island
would be so sick
fiery pebble
Excalibur makes the most sense for Sword
fervent island
yeah for sword it makes sense
wind rivet
The best idea Ive heard yet is the Lyre weapon
twin agate
i smell new update for hades
cloud jewel
EXCALIBUR ASPECT SOUNDS SO COOL
fiery pebble
Or perhaps Caliburn
twin agate
oh boi
tiny sorrel
I really like both those ideas, Anubis and Excalibur
fervent island
how abotu bow?
proven briar
oh
fervent island
what would be the fourth aspect
proven briar
hmm.... staff?
uncut gazelle
Vishnu used a bow, I think
wind rivet
There are lots of famous bows
fervent island
mmm
fiery pebble
Yeah bow is just an abundance of choices
covert current
on my bday
fiery pebble
From Hindu mythology alone
covert current
what a surprise uwu
rugged fractal
Bow is more relatable to Egypt, actually. Osiris aspect
tiny sorrel
if we got a staff weapon then the scythe would be an aspect of that, imo
wind rivet
The real wuestion is shield
fiery pebble
Rama, Vishnu
fervent island
ooo
wind rivet
All the famous shields are greek
fervent island
reinhardt
wind rivet
Because they were obsessed with shields
wind rivet
Ive didnt know it had a name
proven briar
if there wasn't already guan yu i might've guessed spear of horus or something
fervent island
but how about the uh
proven briar
owhoa
fervent island
his spear?
proven briar
that sounds sick
fervent island
wouldnt that be more iconic
wind rivet
What about gun though
fiery pebble
Thing is there is a lack of choice for shields
terse axle
do we really have 3 melee and 2 ranged? i'd say the only melee weapon is sword, shield and spear are hybrids, and bow and rail are ranged
fiery pebble
While spears are abundant
tiny sorrel
would love to get some celtic representation
cloud jewel
shield and spear do have ranged capabilities
fiery pebble
There is technically Wynebgwrthucher
rugged fractal
For shield it could be Perun (from Slavyan mythology)
fiery pebble
Which is the shield of Arthur
cloud jewel
sword is the only true melee weapon
fiery pebble
Id call Shield a melee weapon
cloud jewel
i would too
uncut gazelle
fiery pebble
It has ranged capability technically
tiny sorrel
sheild has the toss though
cloud jewel
yeah i barely use shield special lmao
tiny sorrel
the aspect of zeus almost makes it a ranged weapon
fervent island
but ive never used zeus aspect
cloud jewel
almost
tiny sorrel
Zeus aspect is dope imo, my fav aspect for the shield
fervent island
at least not yet its rather weak when you unlock it
cloud jewel
it's good for chip damage, but otherwise i'm not a fan
tiny sorrel
really changes the playstyle
fiery pebble
Spear you could have Gungnir
rugged fractal
@tiny sorrel so does the Spear. And with sword you can get wave upgrade 🙂
wind rivet
Give zag a glock
proven briar
speaking of norse mythology
fiery pebble
Atgeir
proven briar
if we were going whip/lasso idea
fervent island
ooo
cloud jewel
cowboy aspect
proven briar
gelgja could be an aspect
fervent island
i love the idea of norse
wind rivet
Kratos chains
tiny sorrel
@rugged fractal right, my point was I agree with the person saying the sword is the only true melee weapon
fervent island
oh wait
fiery pebble
The most there is is the myth of the Freischütz from germany
wind rivet
Cowboy zagreus
proven briar
yeeyee
fiery pebble
But that has no specific user and the guns arent important
rugged fractal
Hmmmm.... how about sack of bombs?
sage finch
We need a New World god aspect in here too!
fervent island
GETTER DUNN
fiery pebble
Its probably a firearm that isnt exactly a gun
rugged fractal
With delayed explosion
fervent island
ziggs in hades
fervent island
HHAHAA
uncut gazelle
Billy The Kid Aspect
rugged fractal
Ranged, can be modified to mines, yes
proven briar
CANNONNNNN
wind rivet
Pirate zag
deep spade
Warthog Aspect
BBBBRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRTTTTTT
fiery pebble
Something like the Agneyastra
uncut gazelle
Napoleon Aspect Cannon
proven briar
KJGHRSGJH
fervent island
oh wait
proven briar
hilarious and cool!
fervent island
hm
fiery pebble
Or a Vajra
Which is the issue because most legendary bows are from hindu myth, but pretty much all legendary weapons that fit gun are also from Hindu myth
tiny sorrel
Next ranged weapon: Flamethrower
uncut gazelle
China had a lot of rockets, but we already have Guan Yu's spear
wind rivet
The bow has gotta be from India
tiny sorrel
maybe grenades?
cloud jewel
@tiny sorrel we had it in bastion, we can do it again
fiery pebble
Or hell a Xiuhcoatl
tiny sorrel
nah, maybe not seems too modern
sage finch
@wind rivet There's gotta be some Welsh thing that would fit.
tiny sorrel
I still would like a rotating weapon, would make positioning it's own minigame.
Aspects could be: chain whip, ball and chain, rope dart
wind rivet
I guess you could. But why would you use a welsh bow when the most famous bows in history are from India
sage finch
I still am holding out for Thanatos' Scythe.
tiny sorrel
kusarigama if you want to get real fancy
uncut gazelle
king arthur was originally a welsh legend, FYI
rugged fractal
@tiny sorrel I already suggested similar 🙂 not grenades, but sack of bombs. Kinda fits into greek period
cloud jewel
the one that slayed orochi?
remote moat
Excalibur = D
remote moat
would be pretty famous
tiny sorrel
@rugged fractal that's what I was thinking of initially!
proven briar
hrmm
sage finch
@uncut gazelle Sure and after the fourth spear aspect, that'd be admissible, but he is not known for his use of the bow.
sage finch
Maybe Caliburn?
merry harbor
Ame-no-Habakiri?
wind rivet
Excalibur is so obvious I dont think itll happen
merry harbor
Or one of the others?
wind rivet
I think they go for something spicy
remote moat
balmung ?
sage finch
I think it'd be funny if they riffed on the confusion between excalibur and caliburn
But I personally would dig Glamdring 🙂
remote moat
like yeha balmung/gram would also be pretty godly weapon
rugged fractal
Ahh, to hell with this guessing 🙂 I mean, to Hades 🙂 I'll go for another run or two. Developers already implemented it, so it's like guessing what's in your birthday present box 🙂
sage finch
Do we need another melee weapon?
rugged fractal
Why not?
sage finch
What about a whip? Are there named whips?
proven briar
meg's whip
rugged fractal
If it brings different mechanics
remote moat
xD
proven briar
verbal jungle
Im still down for a flamethrower of sorts!
uncut gazelle
yo when are we getting the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch
remote moat
flamethrower could be the special fo the rail
wind rivet
A horse and all of its aspects are famous horses
sharp parcel
it's a ranged weapon, we know that for a fact
sage finch
@wind rivet I love it!
sharp parcel
melee weapons on the left, ranged weapons on the right, and the only weapon missing is the one on the right
wind rivet
Really what hades needs is more animals
sage finch
I dunno, the spear isn't really all that melee in the helenistic tradition.
wind rivet
???
sharp parcel
I wish fish had their Codex entries
dude, it's a spear
you literally poke dudes with it, that's the main attack
proven briar
stabby stab
sage finch
@sharp parcel You throw it.
wind rivet
Sometimes
sharp parcel
no, throw is a special
sage finch
Tell that to achilles!
verbal jungle
In that case there is only one melee and its the sword with its no ranged moves
sharp parcel
you also throw the shield, but it's a melee weapon because its attack is just a shield slam
wind rivet
Yeah Id consider sword the inly melee
sage finch
Yeah... but I was talking thematics. No one throws their shield in legends.
wind rivet
But there are a lot of mixed weapons
tiny sorrel
@sage finch you aren't reading the right legends then!
sharp parcel
which legends are we talking about?
terse holly
big ax anyone?
sage finch
@tiny sorrel I guess not!
But the depiction of the shield in modern fiction is sort of a pet peeve of mine.
knotty epoch
I can't believe you don't remember Captain America, famed Greek Mythological Hero, and how he throws his shield
tiny sorrel
would love a heavy weap, or a brawling weap with rapid light attacks and a heavier knockback as the special maybe? still gonna sing the praises of a free-form weapon, something with a chain
proven briar
LOL
karmic oasis
holy crap I go offline for 2 hours and its like post explosion!
sage finch
A flail, yes..
brisk trail
Steve's gonna be the shield's 4th Aspect
karmic oasis
Also, i called it from the teaser-teaser, it was a shoulder pad!
sage finch
Boomerang...
karmic oasis
hope now people can see it lmao
sharp parcel
@sage finch I just thought about that as well
tiny sorrel
@sage finch what you mean where they are suddenly boomerangs and have no weight and are magnetic
sharp parcel
though I guess it would be kinda similar to the shield
karmic oasis
Also, I have marked who favor a bellows/flamethrower, and you will be rewarded with my favor
wind rivet
The problem with heavy weapons is they are slow
And Im not sure if it would feel good to play
tiny sorrel
yeah, and the game is so fast
sage finch
Zag isn't a heavy weapon type anyhow.
karmic oasis
hence a move and fire... um... fire weapon
sage finch
Unless you count the rail.
sharp parcel
it would be fine if you were allowed to interrupt the animation whenever
wind rivet
Maybe if they did a ton of damage
sharp parcel
so you could roll away if there's not enough time for a swing
sage finch
We're back to the hammer.
wind rivet
The hammer isnt happening but its an idea
tiny sorrel
that's why I think a weapon with a orbit would be a better choice for heavy, if it was a hammer, say a HUGE one, you had to stand back and wind up for a sec and then have a big swath of damage, maybe buys you enough room to swing again
sage finch
Bolas!
karmic oasis
so have any of these update pictures had existing characters (other than zag) featured on them?
proven briar
ar....temis? maybe
merry harbor
Yeah, but usually for ones that had no unique art previously.
proven briar
^
merry harbor
Sisyphus and Bouldy, for example.
proven briar
yeah when they were still hooded
proven briar
hera would also make sense
karmic oasis
ok I was just curious, ive only been around since steam
then my vote still goes that its nyx
makes sense
tiny sorrel
@merry harbor just gave me an idea for a ball and chain weap, with sisyphus and bouldy as an aspect
last cloud
Hera makes the most sense imo.
proven briar
i wonder what type of boons hera would give though...
merry harbor
Hera isn't around to offer help. Demeter mentions as much.
wind rivet
Except they said its not an olympian
proven briar
oh wait
karmic oasis
why? hasnt SG more or less said the game is in a complete state except for ending?
sage finch
For a new god? I think Hera would just hate Zag.
proven briar
not an olympian
merry harbor
And we arent' getting a new god for a while.
sage finch
She didn't get along so good.
proven briar
hrm then my vote goes to nyx
wind rivet
But why would he be in the underworld
tiny sorrel
#Darkmom for next reveal
sage finch
@wind rivet I mean the only olympian in hades is Hades...
tiny sorrel
Apollo seems like a shoe-in
wind rivet
We know its not an olympian
marble sphinx
i hope by the ending they do mean the entire ending segment and not just a final cutscene though
uncut gazelle
Surprise twist: New character is Icarus after falling straight down to Hades
jade grove
Man, I'm honestly just waiting for Hecate to be in this game.
wind rivet
Could be a titan
blazing geode
Nyx
trail void
I am noticing like a kind of star and moon design on the silhouette.
proven briar
nyx time!
sage finch
@wind rivet Hence my pick for Helios.
wind rivet
Definately nyx
proven briar
hecate would be interesting
karmic oasis
so, has anyone else noticed the action lines look like Hades' halo effects?
merry harbor
Apollo was softly deconfirmed in the Ask Supergiant segment.
blazing geode
I was going to say Selene, but it has to be Nyx
jade grove
@trail void ah yes, the ancient Greek god Lord Nerevar :p
tiny sorrel
@jade grove Hecate would be a really cool addition, imagine encountering THAT npc randomly
jade grove
Kidding. I'm sure it's Nyx
merry harbor
if you wanna go back and read that for some answers. He's not relevant to the story they're trying to tell.
jade grove
Tbh I just need Aspect of Hecate somewhere
trail void
I'm thinking it's Nyx as well.
merry harbor
also throwing my continued and 100% vote that it's Nyx
wind rivet
Its either a new NPC or a hooded figure
tiny sorrel
@merry harbor didn't know that
sage finch
I kinda don't want it to by Nyx, tho I do want more nyx writing
wraith cipher
nyx for an update to darkness/mirror of night would be fitting
wind rivet
The two hooded figures are Nyx and Charon
merry harbor
Yup! A lot of people don't check it and I think it's super neat to look through the answers.
sharp parcel
I'm content with Nyx looking the way she does now
wind rivet
Unless Im forgetting someone
sharp parcel
but that pompous look doesn't seem fitting for Charon
wraith cipher
yeah juust nyx charon
karmic oasis
yeah thats why I think its Nyx. Plus the blast teaser was this image non-silhouetted, and it was purple and gold
proven briar
^
karmic oasis
you know, nyx's colors
wind rivet
Oh no its not fitting for charon at all
tiny sorrel
if Nyx stays the way she looks, they have to change Charon, the two are far too similar in visual style
proven briar
i mean i thought the hood was just the default for character art they haven't put in yet
yeah
uncut gazelle
big reveal: Charon gets a huge update and is now voiced by Gilbert Gottfried
sage finch
Yeah. Charon could use a little distinction. he needs like a big purse or something.
wraith cipher
SG confirmed the robes are placeholders
karmic oasis
Charon actually makes sense tho
wraith cipher
both will be channged
tiny sorrel
@uncut gazelle uninstalled
karmic oasis
a mysterious being that everyone knows no origins about but just does the ferry thing, forever
sage finch
Why would Charon help Zag tho?
proven briar
he wants zag's money
tiny sorrel
^
sage finch
would you have to buy his boons?
remote moat
because i gave charon all my nectar
wind rivet
I cant wait to see Charons final design
wind rivet
Where is the skelly romance
tiny sorrel
I think Eurydice is the only one I've maxed
uncut gazelle
no romancing charon until we can romance Skelly
sage finch
@wind rivet Every time you hit him.
tiny sorrel
Skelly is such a good addition
proven briar
plot twist! if you romance skelly it makes zag refuse to kill him with max aspect of his sword
maybe it gives you sumthin else instead
wind rivet
I feel like we've had the potentional romance options many times and it always comes down to Hypnos or new character
uncut gazelle
Maybe it tells you who hired skelly
jade grove
Inb4 Charon is an ugly half naked man, like the myths
proven briar
oH GUFF
jade grove
Romance Bouldy when?
uncut gazelle
...unless that was revealed and I'm missing something
sage finch
Actaully, I want helios fora Rail aspect. Lazors!
tiny sorrel
look if there is gonna be any romance option it's gotta be Tisiphone
cloud belfry
Romance Hypnos when?
jade grove
@sage finch Aspect of Amaterasu, let's get that Divine Mirror shield that shoots a solar beam
wind rivet
Mmmmmmuuuurreder? Murdddeer? Mmmurder...
tiny sorrel
@jade grove THAT
proven briar
^
cloud belfry
I'm begging for more Hypnos content
uncut gazelle
oh man that's a 10/10
cloud belfry
SAME
jade grove
Yata no Kagami has already been used as a shield in another game...
coarse junco
Okay... who the heck is that in the silhouette
jade grove
:^)
blazing geode
I'd be interested in seeing the personification of Tartarus and Erebus as siblings to Nyx (going by mythology)
jade grove
Also, I keep thinking of Nyx as the Lotus from Warframe
wind rivet
There are lots of fun new characters they could add
jade grove
At least, her slightly spoilery backstory version
merry harbor
Oh gosh same
visual briar
maybe the silhouette could be Hemera?
karmic oasis
so does anyone thing we will get a ||proper ending?||
jade grove
Waiting for the time Nyx goes "My child, so beautiful to behold"
visual briar
Nyx's counterpart, embodiment of Day
karmic oasis
think*
jade grove
:^)
merry harbor
no
visual briar
gonna keep tripping on banana peels until release
merry harbor
Also I don't think it's ending time yet.
wind rivet
I take it back, Charon is in fact another romance option but he doesnt speak
karmic oasis
How about ||more bad endings?||
wind rivet
So its unlucky
karmic oasis
Ah, the perfect relationship
blazing geode
Hemera could be cool- tied with the journey beyond the UW (where there is presumably daylight)
verbal jungle
We do need the Strong Silent type in our Greek Gods Dating Sim
visual briar
Charon companion costs all your obols but deals proportionate damage
jade grove
Okay, but
proven briar
hell yeah szyael
jade grove
Consider this.
wind rivet
I say option as in we dont know what their full hearts are so it could be romance
visual briar
point it at Final Boss so they just explode into cash
devout plinth
Hey did they put a new hades banner on Twitter recently or has it always been that
jade grove
Theseus under charm: THROW IT AT HIM, NOT ME
visual briar
oh, theseus is sportacus, huh
wind rivet
Just like date all of Nyx's kids
visual briar
or sportacus-adjacent
wind rivet
At once
jade grove
True
visual briar
which, doesn't that make zag robbie rotten
tiny sorrel
Yeah but when do we get the Transistor added to the game, 4th aspect of the sword maybe??
I want my Turn() and Mask() build back
karmic oasis
So are we not trying to speculate the wings?
jade grove
Just like my goddamn Aspect of Amaterasu that's really just an Okami joke
karmic oasis
out of her gorram head?
tiny sorrel
@jade grove I feel you
verbal jungle
Theseus is more like Thotacus amirite???
jade grove
She might have a bird
merry harbor
Probably a hat, Soul.
wind rivet
A hat of wings
karmic oasis
weird hat for sure lol
wind rivet
Very Nyx fashion
tiny sorrel
Theseus: Greatest Tool of Athens
tiny sorrel
get out
wind rivet
She did? I had no idea
coarse junco
The stars around her head makes it plausible for Nyx.
merry harbor
According to some myth interpretations, yes, jokes aside.
coarse junco
Maybe we can get the likes of Ophion and Eurynome
karmic oasis
yeah, I was expecting from the blast teaser that she would have a bird mounted on her other shoulder or something, but this is... tough to imagine seeing the bird in the art haha
visual briar
pre-boss battle conversation in elysium: a theseus statement
coarse junco
Who I think were part of the creation mythos
wind rivet
Dont all of them have those stars/crosses
coarse junco
Do they?
tiny sorrel
I want a shapeshifting weapon: Aspect of Zeus, turn into the handsomest swan you've ever seen
karmic oasis
only other question is the light beams
wind rivet
No I guess not
karmic oasis
they look very much like hades's light beams
wind rivet
I just looked
brisk trail
Every major god has those beams.
blazing geode
She has the star and moon motifs in the silhouette
visual briar
I realize we're anticipating the rest of the update-based special aspects coming from non-greek sources, but I'd really love Aspect of Athena on the shield
tiny sorrel
I wonder if they will ever introduce Gaia? Wasn't she the mother of the Olympians?
brisk trail
What if the new god/goddess was finally Persephone ?
visual briar
with a gorgon head on it
brisk trail
Gaia at this point was deposed and cast into Tartarus.
tiny sorrel
@visual briar I know what you mean! I was surprised we got an aspect of chaos before an aspect of athena
karmic oasis
really, all the olmpians + hades have the light beams?
jade grove
I'd prefer non-Greek all round on the aspects, but if we had five each...
tiny sorrel
@brisk trail works for me! Maybe she is a random encounter down there like Sis and Bouldy, I mean, we have Chaos in the game, why not?
jolly void
I think the new god might be Hecate, looks a bit like a bird
jade grove
I wish
karmic oasis
i feel like demeter is the perfect "final god" though
jade grove
Any Hecate is good
blazing geode
Time to team up with the titans 😈
jade grove
Literally any excuse to have her in this videogame in any way
wind rivet
Whats the name of the shield on the aspect of zag?
jade grove
I'm holding out for a magic weapon.
karmic oasis
being the ||mother of persephone and all||
jade grove
Like... seriously. Magic floating zagreus
karmic oasis
Felis, only if its also a flamthrower
jade grove
Imagine Zag with a straight up magical girl transformation though
karmic oasis
i think we came to that truce yes?
jade grove
Yes. A flaming staff.
tiny sorrel
you had me right up until the transformation @jade grove
karmic oasis
yes. and theres been peace here ever since. It would be... tragic... if someone broke that truce
karmic oasis
a worthy goal
jade grove
But any magic staff is fine by me
delicate arrow
Imagine Zag with a straight up magical girl transformation though
@jade grove NO.
karmic oasis
here I am though, trying to figure out what weird ass headdressing Nyx is wearing in that silouhette.
jade grove
But yes
karmic oasis
(which makes me wonder..... flying guillotine weapon!!!)