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yeah gift that person ^
Please excuse my ignorance. How do I access my record screen outside of killing ||hades|| again?
What is that in the control window?
In terms of number of times beating the game? I dunno
As in, what option
What are the thoughts on doom on attack?
I can open my codex without issue, but records screen isn't in the codex
Doom on attack without also being able to also reapply it? lol no
Just got a terrible boon then
hello, i just had a thought and i was wondering if anyone else thinks so. zagreus' confused/curious portrait looks like he's the second panel in a "hey girls, did you know" meme
thanks for listening
it also shows you the room number in the upper right corner
@sharp parcel thank you, i'm clicking around now, i'll report back
@sharp parcel I don't see a results screen. I'll leave it in the feedback channel.
http://prntscr.com/qymqwn you mean this? then yeah you need to win to see it
You can individually check each weapon's number of clears, fastest clear, number of enemies slain, and highest Heat in the weapon courtyard, and if you buy the scrying pool from the Contractor you can check total Escape Attempts.
@wraith cipher that's my point
Let us see it other than doing another run
our 'current progress' if you wil
will
I’m so confused
I took a chaos boom
But it’s not showing up in my character sheet
And I’m certain it’s been way more than the 3 encounters
can you take a screen of your boons?
It doesn’t let us post screens in here right?
Athenas aid or sure footing?
I feel like most of my damage comes from traps in elysium
Aid like most of the time, then get poms to level it up
Kk
Sure Footing is better than Athena's Aid.
Especially with Heightened Security.
If you've got absolutely mindscrew bonkers damage, Athena's Aid a B-tier boon.
Otherwise it's C.
@random sandal some advice i can give you, shield is best weapon, it pairs well with attack boons. like Athene's defect one or Zeus's Lightning attack. and dash back and forth to attack, standing still is generaly a bad idea.
The buff makes it insane
Like you can get 0.7 seconds per level
That adds up very quickly
For athena aid
Oh, and Dionisius has a great cast and combo Boons.
Dio with shield is great in general honestly
You thought it was the god of wine, but it was me DIO!!!!
^
"Shine! KakyouinTheseus!"
But in all seriousness hangover on attack is great because shield tends to attack surprisingly fast
Ooo I’m having a good one bois
@random sandal one other thing, dont take the curses where you lose health on attack. it is never worth it. on specials and casts, sure, but never for attacks
lost two runs in a row that way
becasue i just HAD to work on the fates lists
I've ground out no Attack before in Tartarus.
so have i. only to realise, the gate i picked it up on, was right before the boss fight.
Depends on what you have, really. Usually tho, your attack will be your main source of damage, so it likely will backfire
this happened, twice in a row. i won the fight. but used all 3 death defiance's on it.
Exactly
the only exception i can think of is, some very specials casts, or when using Chirons bow.
Railgun that isn't hestia can get away with spamming specials for a little while
oh god. i just thought of something horrible, that curse, with the rail
oh god no
Uh yeah don't left-click ever LOL
but it's not that bad because railgun special is like probably the best special
Also, is it just me, or is the rail just, bad? it can get some reat specials through hammers and stuff, but its normal attack just seems, awful.
Normal attack with zeus
Just sayin'
le 5/7 7/7 build
https://i.imgur.com/vo8aZBq.png
Pair it with demeter and it can do wonders
Fair enough
Holy cast build jesus
@brisk trail https://i.imgur.com/4heK5DJ.png
^ like that
Splitting Bolt pushes this kinda build out of the water, but even without it the damage is good
fair enough. but just speaking in gerneral terms, the rail seems like the worst of the weapons
I needed Splitting Bolt to deal enough damage to beat Elysium in time.
Rail has some of the better hammer upgrades
and like, half of the upgrades are great
i suppose
It's got a high skill floor, but it's tied-ish for the best weapon in the game.
that's a good thing for consistency
Also not the easiest to use
Looking at you, shield
i say the shield is the best weapon, but i just have more experence with it.
Shield is like the "better" weapon overall due to it's safety
it can lack in damage at times, but it's manageable
it attacks very quickly, and can get an upgrade to hit twice every attack
Like Ares/Dio fixes it's weakness instantly
and I do say at times
It's got defense, which is more than any other weapon has outside of outranging.
^
Bull rush is just amazing, period
Mobility AND defense
i dont really use that. i just dash back and forth like a madman
You can do both
i do block things sometimes. but only rarely
Like, incorporate bull rush in your playstyle to then transition into bashing the enemy
Like approach with it, you can still block hits while moving forward
Shield does fine without it.
takes just a bit too long to get the shield up for blocking to be usefull often
^ fair
@brisk trail Funny to say that, uh ?
A great tool isn't needed to make the shield good, really does say how powerful the weapon is
i say shield best weapon, without using half of its features.
Possidans sword is also very good. just a bit slower.
so much cast damage
For sure
it's the DeFacto weapon for speedruns
because Artemis cast can reach dumb levels of damage
huh, i never considerd that one very good
sure, homing, but its not exactly, spectacular.
Decent damage + can crit
- you get it back with the Poseidon sword special
And poseidon boosts it too
Poseidon cast. lots of damage, and splash radious
It's a decent one too
Poseidon cast is genuinely under-explored IMO
its powerfull, not very flashy. but it works
Like Poseidon attack and special can suck it, Cast, Dash, and Aid are good
Poseidon’s boons are like playing pinball with enemies
I had a funny run with them with Shield of Chaos
yeah, knockback on your normal attacks is, a mixed bag.
great for wall slamming
bad if you dont want to have to chase them across an open room
The thing with Poseidon
is bosses
His room clears are unparalleled, it's just the moment you hustle it up with the big baddies, his low damage kinda shows itself
fair enough
onto a less controversial topic. Dusa best girl. 
Meg fans are disappointed
i will fight you IRL
Damn
Look, all I'm saying is that Meg wanted to hold my hand, ||but Dusa didn't||.
Picking this Pom is real tough
dash
Or increase support fire damage
I have like 3 other boobs adding dash strike damage
My call is Athena’s aid
(i have like three other boobs)
And I have a boon that makes me start with 25% call meter
id say dash damage
if you play like i do, you will get a lot more out of it than the others
wait
wat dash
Shield
Hunter dash
artemis dash strike, probably
oh
This is a tough one
I use the aid quite a bit
If its dash ATTACK. then that, if its damage from dashing. probably the aid
Artemis' Hunter Dash boosts the damage of your dash attack
It's ok on shield, decent with the right hammers
Athena call being boosted by poms tho, oh boi that is universally great
well, glad we sorted that out.
have a geko.
ooooh! gekko!!
nice
That build was rigged
Deflect is so good
If I knew I was about to fight hades I could have won
@random sandal please spoiler tag or remove the identity of the final boss from your post!
That’s still spoiler territory so something to be kept to #h1-story-discussion
wtf I just one shot ||Hades|| from 90%hp in second phase
what happened
is it cause of charm?
did you have Athena's boons?
yes, here's the rest https://i.imgur.com/0a5Qv64.png
there's a bug with deflected damage being higher than intended sometimes
interesting, first time happening to me, I use deflect a lot usually
this was the first time I used charm tho
wonder if it has anything to do with it
there was a similar bug related to charm as well, but it was fixed
When a mod gets ignored #feelsbadman
literally right after her message too lol
I'm surprised the
didn't come down.
Looks like the over an hour of time difference between the two messages probably has something to do with it. 😄
Hey @foggy coral when you have a chance please spoiler tag or remove the name of the last boss from your message above! We try to keep this discussion as spoiler free as possible.
Where would I report a minor bug I stumbled on?
yup
Awesome, thanks.
@chilly stump done, sorry
No worries, thank you!
Am i the only one who dislikes how the shield's spikes clip on the model?
can anyone help me?
I gave sisypus 6 nectars
then talked to him a few times
I still cant see the option to buy his thing on the renovation merchant
did you talk to meg and hades at the house?
many times
Hey people! Is there something special you have to do to get Demeter to start showing up?
i think it was just once each
I dont know for certain but i think she spawns after getting to the final boss or beating the final boss once, as zag references the final boss room when he first grabs the boon
Ohhh
I actually made it to the final boss for the first time yesterday
I can almost beat it
when do you guys buy the "the next boon you get will be upgraded" option from the purple water shop? is it worth it? I am running increased shop cost penalty so I am wondering if I should skip that all the time
Never, mostly because it's never there for me >_> Also there is some additional dialogue with Heroes, if you manage bring it to them.
Rarety is such a gamble tbh
maybe only take it if you know the next boon via trinklet or its in the next room?
its quite expensive though, around 125g
Any tips with the difficult version of the heroes(act3) fight? I lose more hp to them than hades -.-
there are so many projectiles on screen
So i just had a weird bug
That basically ruined the entire audio
Some voice lines do not trigger, Alecto can only be heard from the left speaker, plenty of sound effects and background music straight up does not play, the max charge sound effect for shield loops permanently even after dead, stopping only when hitting enemies, and returning shortly after you stop damaging them
Update: Hades is barely whispering from the left speaker when talking to him
I have run into this problem before too. The final boss didn't have some voice lines, though Zag sounded fine. At first I thought the lines may have just not been recorded but after returning to the house the issue persisted with Achilles and Hades, which is when I realised they sounded far away, and also in my left speaker.
I think it cleared up after I paused and unpaused the game
That also happened to me once. I reported it with F10 just in case
Still, I had the problem again yesterday I think
You guys should as well so they take note of that
Will do
one of hades' lines just made me cackle
"mortals are kept in check by the fear of death. you'd better learn to fear something."
h m m m m m m
"since you can't die, you'd just BETTER learn to fear...something."
trying to make someone who literally has nothing to fear AND nothing to lose spontaneously obtain some vulnerability to exploit. "fear me OR ELSE".
hades: can you PLEASE be afraid of SOMETHING for me to exploit
zag: im afraid youll never be a good father
all the shades: OOOO BURRRN
NXJCJV MAYBE SO...
I thiiiink Zagreus would fear losing someone really important to him 
Zagreus: annoys hades
Hades: is not a good father figure and creates a deep trauma on him
Zagreus: has the big sad
Hades: 😎
soooo any tips on doing "The Gift Of Song" prophecy?
Spam that lyre while you multitask
And do it before every run until Zag plays it well
Spam it for about a minute or two before each run and, eventually , you will get it done
ya it took me about 5 or so runs
then it started sounding like someone was playing a norm guitar
a country one
I don't like how long the gaps between plays are once you start progressing.
There are already people actively modding what they can.
SGG has gone on the record as saying it's not a priority, but ask again once 1.0 is out.
I'm not sure what engine SG uses but if i can manage to grasp it i'd like to add some stuff
Yeah it's common for people to accept modding support is not given in early access
But RoR2 has an already strong modding community
Mostly thanks to the malleability of the Unity engine
Most Duos require two core boons (Attack, Special, Cast, Dash, or Call) from two different Gods.
A very basic example is Hunting Blades, which requires Ares's Cast boon, Slicing Shot, and any other core boon from Artemis.
so i am trying to get Scintillating Feast and have trippy shot and Zeus's Aid why am i not getting the duo boon?
just unlucky
went through two runs both to last boss and didn't get it once
now i am going to bed
ni ni
Man that Harsh Conditions prophecy is a satisfying mark off the list
🙂
is there a way to track how many
hours youve put into Hades on the epic games client?
@slate thicket You should be able to just press the three dots next to 'launch' - then it's at the bottom of the window. Unless it was changed recently
!!thanks
No problem!
also, 264+ hours :0
i havent gone this hard on a game in a while
aside from maybe league :p
Nice. It feels like I am counting down the hours for the next update as well 😛
WHich is unusual for me
I'm usually very much 'meh it'll come out whenever'. But I need that new weapon!
so the heat reset kinda set me back
and im
doing every weapon +1 heat to keep them even
so some of the weapons im bad at are slowing me down 0.o
That is what I was doing on hell mode also, then after 16 I just said screw it let me try 32 and 'accidentally' won. Super shaky/sweaty hands on that finish
No worries, as long as you are having fun 
"Hell mode is a harder difficulty option that may be selected when creating a new save file. This option cannot be changed later and disables God Mode from use. Selecting Hell Mode has Zagreus start the game with the Pact of Punishment immediately in use. The Pact of Punishment has five mandatory conditions with Hell Mode exclusive condition, Personal Liability, which removes the impervious shield that Zagreus briefly gains upon taking massive damage. Upon completion of a successful run, Zagreus must add additional heat according to the weapon's current bounty level to the Pact to continue to use the weapon he had used to complete it."
That was longer than I thought it would be
Just a slightly harder/more punishing type of save file
oh
so im doing that
anyhow
kinda
i just dont wanna reset and lose all my bonds ;-;
Yeah, I did that. Started on a normal file and unlocked everything and then restarted on Hell mode. The no invincible frames after hit is brutal sometimes, but otherwise it isn't much different (that pact doesn't exist on normal and is mandatory on hell mode)
Yes but some things can still melt you when spearpoint is on cooldown or such for sure. But they are definitely valuable
I had Hades beam nuke me for 150+ damage on one run because I dashed the wrong way 😦
Heat reset? Is progress going to be lost with updates?
not any more prob
I guess more accurately I tried to dash on top of him and overshot and got nuked before my brain realized what I did wrong 
Right. Fair enough.
it used to be a currency remember lol
oh man
i also miss the days of 10 death defiance stacks haha
I only just started this update. Got it in the sale 2 weeks ago. Best purchase in a long time. I thought nothing would live up to Dead Cells in this genre but Hades is doing it
oh my goodness
Hades has absolutely killed it with this game
i tried to go back to transistor and replay that
but the mechanics of Hades are just so much more fluid and smooth that i cant
imho Hades goes down as a genere defining roguelike for this decade
This game has one huge problem. I will always want more of it 😛 Let's fight through Olympus and then go off to other mythos and kill stuff there too! Sadly I know they can only add so much
I've been a huge Supergiant fan since day one
but Hades just knocks it out of the park even more
Makes me curious. I haven't checked my hours recently
Got the game on Jan 13th and have 139 hours so far
I've played an unreasonable amount of hours in these last 2 weeks. I've been off work sick so it's basically all I've been doing in between sleeping
i have too many other irons in the fire to play that frequently haha
also something about being around since day one
has kinda kept me slow and steady
i found my happy pace to not burn out
I'm fortunate to be able to do it as a job, so the 140 hours in 3.5 weeks doesn't seem so bad 😛
are you a full time content creator: :0
Yep
cool
It's your job? But what do you do wheb you off work sick then?!
@stoic quail I just play without having to talk then 
Find yourself talking anyway out of habit I'd bet
lol, hasn't happened yet ... but there is still time
i hear that full time streaming makes time off really tough to have
bc even a 48 hour streaming gap can cause massive sub loss
That is true to an extent. I've not had a vacation or more than 1-2 days off at a time in almost three years
Yeah, that is a big part of it. If I don't stream for a night when I am supposed to I get $0. Doesn't matter how sick etc. Definitely miss pto
Introvert in the streets extrovert on the streams! Definitely gets exhausting sometimes
Yeah, I know a few girls who stream and from day one they get creepy people. Luckily, as a male streamer, I've only ran into a few over the last 2-3 years
just not worth it at this point really running any streams
Gotcha. I know a streamer who is trans and she has done pretty well. I am sure she gets tons of crap though, unfortunately
its part of existing : ^)
anyhow weve drifted wildly off topic and im sleepy, so goodnight XD
ty for the help earlier
Woops. Guess I will loop it back around. Hades is awesome, and I've been super lucky to play it 40 hours a week the last three weeks 
No problem!
https://open.spotify.com/track/3aXx8ZUz8UT7XAhwSPG3xJ?si=SrP5YzYpQrqyuNWfcqJNXQ just in case you all were looking for it
Hello guys can anyone who is aware of the fastest time in the latest update inform me on that ?
|| https://youtu.be/OZVWb-PYGqQ || this seems to be the current world record. 7:22 in game time
oh uh, obviously spoilerss in that
<> the link
sorry, huh? 😅
if you wrap a link <> it doesn't load the video
wow
thank you !
@wraith cipher
so i take it cast build is the strongest at this point ? since he doesnt even bother touching the weapon he uses
its the fastest. cast builds are really strong but you also see chaos shield other weapons at high heat
i heard for a while nemesis sword was the go to speedrun weapon
Oooh, I wonder if there will be seeds
So those who speedrun all have the same run. I hope this makes sense
|| https://youtu.be/OZVWb-PYGqQ || this seems to be the current world record. 7:22 in game time
@wraith cipher So lucky on those first two boons 😮
Guys is it normal that in 27 mins i've reached the final Boss
about average?
I'd be really curious to know the amount in minutes of voice acting there is in this game
I was kind of stunned by just how much dialogue they recorded for it.
Pretty sure that at this point they just have mics on all the time in the office and address each other by their character names
Well who knows for sure but at least it was well done
Whooo I know no one cares but I finally beat it and I'm buzzed
congratulations!
Thanks!
Nice going, friendo, decent time too for first clear
Thank ye, didn't use any death defiances either idk what happened
grats hun 🙂
Congratulations 🍾🎉🎊
i need to finish it with the bow and rail....trying to determine how to work that
since for me both weapons kind of bite
I'd say Rail is easier with all the explosions
well the way i play they bite lol
Pick Erin's Aspect, Go for big damage boost boons, bomb everything, clear the low HP ones with bullets. Pretty much that.
Bullets can work well with Zeus / Dio
Zeus i tried but they fall off
the bullets that is
at the end
didn't kill fast enough
Aphrodite is kinda big damage. Also Artemis / Ares
i could never see her dmg
Yeah. You really need to invest heavily into Zeus' boons to make it work
I heard Aphrodite's attack / special boons gives the highest +% damage compared to others'
okie for one run i will have to try a full run of nothing but her
Well I wouldn't play like that.
lol k
Game may troll you with very few boons from the very god you want
are you kidding me i get boned by the RNG every game
3 candidates for each slot is safe enough, I guess
Better than my games today: boons are not rare, but not the useful ones.
yuck
ive got 105 hours so far
ive been really trying to do well.
but RNG bites me hard
Well there isn't much you can do to mitigate the RNG problem
So um, just keep going I guess.
...hence you see my problems
the triple special hammer upgrade got me my first rail win i'm pretty sure
for bombs or missles?
either is good, but to have triple missiles you need the missile upgrade and the triple upgrade
that sounds pretty awesome
omg yes thats true
grats hun
Just noticed that Chaos has darkness earrings. I approve
Is there a way I can re read dialogue I skipped a convo accidently
If a convo is worth reading, it's probably one-time only.
I'd start a new save when the game is out of early access just to read all the dialogues again
Ah damn thank you though
🙂
uh, anyone got tips for fishing? I'm awful at it 
oh thats simple
wait till the bobber goes ALL the way into the water and yank it back up
ok, I'll try later
there's a flash of light that only appears on the real dip--i find that easier to go off of than looking at the actual sphere thing
Finally started playing last night and this game bangs, I can consistently make it to Elysium too with most of the weapons so that's just a testament to good design

There was a graphical glitch I noticed tho so I was wondering if I would put it in #hades-feedback or somewhere else

how muhc darkness to max the last part of mirror?
like the changing the room thingy
a lot
1k/2k/3k/4k/5k etc
up to ten rerolls
i think after 5k it shoots up to 10k and goes from there, actually
1k/2k/3k/4k/5k/10k/20k/30k/40k/50k
165k darkness, then
you can upgrade the mirror?
It was designed as a darkness sink
Nah i wouldnt sweat trying to max it
Cause now you can refill your rerolls with keys
what
so basically if u have one reroll and u got enough keys just keep rerolling
or theres a limit
no they mean that since keys give you charges of fated authority anyway it's less important to max
when you pick em up
if you have the contractor upgrade anyway
there's no real reason to grind out that much darkness for fated authority
i honestly think by the time you've grinded enough darkness for the full mirror to be maxed you're probably skilled enough to be playing with budget cuts on anyway lol
But now since darkness can give max hp its somewhat valuable again
Honestly if you're not interested in playing with budget cuts, I think having 1 use of Fated Authority is a good time to stop caring about Darkness if you've got an otherwise maxed mirror.
Anything extra is great but that first initial reroll is good.
is it me of dianysos start is really good with chaos shield
posion on special carries you so easily even though you get terrible boons afterwards
what is correct channel to talk about bugs/crashing
@brisk vale dio attack and ares special is the best on shield
bonus with atermis support fire
you kill everything so quickly
I feel like dio scales better than ares, and he has better synergies
I like ares start too
yeah
any mobs who got hit by a random shield just instantly die
yeah my last run had both doom and poison
I almost lost due to bad play though
I still lose so much hp to difficult version of act3 boss
lost 2 deaths
just play it safe
shield up, bull crash, special, dash
rinse and repeat till he die
so just beated the game, whats the point of heat levels
sometimes screen gets filled with whirlwind and bombs
or bombs and charge
its tricky to dodge those
its newgame plus
yea
no im talking about hades
@west chasm Hey, there is a modding community for Hades. If you are interested, just scroll up a bit in #self-promotion
@brisk trail heat makes game more difficult and you get to earn more rewards
A modding community? Neat, i'd love to check it out...
But wait, what language does Hades use for the code @burnt breach
I wanna know if i should get excited
lua
if you have modding related questions you can ask me, tho preferably on the modding discord (or in DM)
Yeah that's obviously understandable
what channel do I go to to post a Hades meme?
I think here is ok
#fan-works if it's a visual meme?
@brisk trail rewards are based on heat. You only get titans blood/diamonds/ambrosia for the first time you beat each boss with each weapon on each heat level. So whatever weapon you beat the game with, if you play again without raising heat, you won't get any of those rewards, just darkness in its place.
Well, technically you can trade up to those with Nectar, but it's incredibly slow and not worth it as your main source.
heyo! does anyone know if you can give ambrosia to more than one character?
oooh sweet!!
why cant I post on feedback topic?
I think difficult version of act 3 boss is really unfair
@brisk vale please read the pin : 6. To be able to post, first visit #bot-commands and type ?rank Early Access
Please read the pinned messages in #hades-feedback before posting! Thank you for playing.
charge lasts too long and sometimes it bugs and goes into columns but still hit you
sometimes there are way too many projectiles
and its hard to see which way the shield guy is facing
act 3 boss shouldnt be 10 times harder than final boss imo
I die like 2 3 times on act 3 boss and dont die at act 4 boss at all, I dont think thats logical
I won again after wasting my 4 deaths on act 3 boss and only got hit 3 times in act 4 boss 😄
@rotund finch Yes please. I was just talking about that yesterday: "Zagreus throws a party and everyone except dad's invited"
Yeah, I've seen a few people talking about something like that, I just love the visual that the entertainment table is like a D&D Table and they all play to humor Zag at max bond XD
"What: House Party
When: ASAP
Who: Absolutely Everyone Except Hades, go away dad
-Zagreus"
I remember a while ago I was talking to someone about a family dinner/ Party in the lounge with Nyx, Meg, Than, and Hypnos, and hopefully Chaos too XD
OH and the two other fury sisters as the ONE time they can come in the house
Hades~~,hiding manly tears~~: Hmph! I have... absolutely... no interest in your childish amusements! None whatsoever!
Hades pretends he doesn't want to join. Secretly keeps sneaking glances at everyone having fun.
I know reconciliation with Hades is probably never going to happen. I still kind of want it to? Just because it would be nice to see in fiction something that so rarely happens irl. It's...hopeful. But then again, Hades is...himself.
@brisk vale you learn to time your dodges and value the obstacles. its an easy fight if you slow yourself down, like all the bosses
take down mino first
finally made it to hades for the first time
died to that sudden beam I hadn't seen before during second phase 😩
I actually wonder if Persephone's introduction will lead to that...
Maybe!
Do people dislike Hermes annoying or something? Why did he ask me if I wanted to mute him?
i actually like him
Some people have, I'm sure.
Is it permanent?
I think every so often he asks if you want to unmute him.
Hermes is one of my fav Olympians
He's pretty great.
its not permanent
i've muted him for laughs and after some runs he'll ask if you want to keep him quiet or resume chatter
he really doesnt care which option you choose
so dont ever feel bad for muting him, he takes it in stride lmao
Hera could always join Demeter in the "women salty at Zeus" club. I'm sure her and Zeus' god challenge rooms would be just great.
Why did I just realise that dusa is just medusa without the me
I feel like I should have seen that earlier
Ehm, I understand that you mean that "Hera could join Demeter in the salty club" in the game... But I really cant get over the fact that Hera is the Leader of that club.
So chose Adamant arrowhead (artemis keepsake) for the second biome. Get a centaur heart for the first room which is fine, but the second room is exclamation mark and hermes.
If I chose hermes room, would the boon turn into artemis?
Or does this refer to when you find a boon, as in a shop or something
It changes one of the first boon room in that biome @primal whale you will have to find a proper one.
So the first boon room possibility I encountered was hermes
How many gods we still getting?
would it change the boon I receive into artemis?
Or is hermes outside of the normal choices
Like hammer
Hermes does whatever he wants apparently
He is different than the other boons
no duo
So maybe they consider him in the way they consider daedalus hammer
I think if explained somehow among the lines of "This is his secret gig and he doesn't want Olympus to know about that"
Or maybe if you are given the exclamation mark room, they don't force you to choose the boon from your keepsake
Haha well i dig it
Hera is almost literally the goddess of salt
C'mon
I mean, Nemesis is OFFICIALLY the goddess of revenge, but the unofficial one is actually just Hera
Sadly, no more Olympians for now
question: Does it seem like temple of styx is harder now? and I don't mean by enemy toughness I mean it seems like you are forced to do all the rooms now? I've done 20 runs and it keeps makin me go through all of them
nope, just RNG like usual
^ Yup, just RNG
is there any way to "remove" a god from a run? I already took a demeter boon but now I'd rather get someone else in there, can I sell her boon to give the other god a chance to show up? What about trinkets, can i force them to show up that way even if i already have the max (which i think is 4?)
Pretty sure runs are random they just try to give you more of the same God so that you're not spread too thin and if you're trying to go for legendaries.
There's no way to force anything in the game if that's what you're asking Like you can't make a God show up or make a certain thing to show up It's all RNG
well i mean you can force it with keepsakes, right? but i think there's a cap to the number of olympians you can see in a run, i didn't know if getting rid of a boon you already accepted from one would get rid of that or not
I mean sure but why waste a keepsake slot on a god keepsake?
because it's sometimes more interesting than just continuing to use plume or feather every run
I run chaos egg for tartarus and sometimes Asphodel. Then I move on to bracer if I'm using a melee weapon or memory on a ranged
Using keepsake slots on gods is a very good option to round up your build
There is almost always an optimal boon for the direction you are going in
i mean for one thing artemis legendary for cast builds
I almost always use a god keepsake on asphodel
wait
no
🤔
I almost always mix up asphodel and tartarus
The 2nd zone
I wonder why
After I did a 32 heat on rail, it says I have bounties available at 0 heat on the rail
And i've done the rail heats 0-20
Blessed the be thyne rail gun
Well i was wondering if that was a bug
only thing i know if is you can't "skip" the 0 heat runs but if you already beat it all the way on 0 heat then i'm not sure
Wow the final boss on zero heat with my broken build also managed to just hit me for like 200 damage in one it
hit
I must have been standing exactly on top of him or something when he did some move
was it the laser one or something?
only other thing I can think of is you got hit while you had one of his bloodstones on you
Who knows. I wanna divine dash one of those rigt back ijnto his fface
He had just transformed into the second stage and I dodged his initial ring of damage and then he just smacked me for big damage. It was honestly just an attack but maybe skull summon or something. Seemed like a gltich
if you get hit by the spear thrust that also puts the skull out that could do it, but that wouldn't be 1 instance of 200 damage
Maybe enableable combat logs would help folk track down how replicate these beloved moments
Due to the timing of it, it seemed like it wasn't supposed to happen
But maybe that's my thinking because it was the run to get the only bounty I didn't have on any given rail heat.... the final boss on 0 heat
Also, Eff 40 heat
I for the life of me cant beat he final boss with shield. Ive beaten the game on up to 5 heat on all the other infernal arms. But that darn shield.
Leveling up the aspects helps a lot
And abusing the fact you're invincible during bull rush
yeah you'd be surprised just how much you're allowed to block with the shield
Shield is the easiest, though, if you have an Aspect.
If only the shield blocked consistently. I swear regular attacks hit me through the shield when I'm charging up sometimes
I still haven't figured out the shield entirely, I'm more of a rail man
mostly it comes down to spacing correctly, you can even block some of the AoEs
They can hit you while charging the ability, if thats what you mean. I'm not positive you're 100% invulnerable while bull rushing but its def close
but only if positioned and angled right
For earlier heats, I'd recommend buffing up as much as you can. Dodge chance, damage reduction, hp and a invincible call
Get some attack and dash-attack damage and try and get extra dashes
and you can just dance through the final boss
especially if you get athenas dash
that thing is nuts
I honestly didn't know bull rush made you invincible for the longest time and that's the way I got through a lot of the shields heat
300% damage power shot bull rush with Aphrodite attack (highest dmg modifier) is pretty stupid
hit for like 500 and never take damage
But to be fair, i did a lot of my heat pre-winter patch
just did my first tight deadline, didn't realize the extra time didn't carry over. had tons of time first 2 biomes, ran out of time as i got to theseus fight. any tips for faster elysium?
avoid getting greedy and going for everything
the rest is just a slightly unfair dps check not in your favor
if you're struggling and your damage output isn't wiping the floor, avoid skull rooms, because the fewer bosses you have to screw with, the better
Do we know what's going to be in the next update in like a month? Any hints given anywhere?
check the roadmap in-game! 
Oh yeah I forgot about that! Thank you!
Ive made it to 9 heat with sword so its not the melee thats screwing me up. And it bothers me that i cant even do it once with shield. Ill just have to force a crit build on shield and hope i get the double strike hammer buff
this has probably been asked a bunch of timesb efore but, do we know if there are any plans for a coop mode later on?
@mighty spear her scariest phase is near the end when she starts to bullet hell. block if you're using shield, deflect them if you have a deflect boon, otherwise get away and just dance until she's done doing that phase and then go back in to finish her off
@amber ember it's in #hades-faq and has been for a looong while: Hades is a single-player game. We have no plans to add multiplayer, as we have been building the design and narrative of Hades with a solo experience in mind.
screw this silly-poo dumb-butt challenge
took me way more attempts than it should have
still 
Nice win
Is there a way to force Thanatos? I have made 38 runs and not ever seen him except once, but my computer crashed during the encounter so it never went in the book or anything.
@teal patrol your feedback has been addressed before. They'll add achievements and cards by the time early access is complete
Never mind, he finally spawned.
So I just now noticed that Achilles really doesn't like onions, lol.
Anyone know if Supergiant has plans to release sheet music for Hades? I'm trying to transcribe Good Riddance to sheet music but while I am sort of okay at playing guitar, transcription isn't a skill I'm practiced at and I'd rather throw money at SG for it 😹
Heya, i just happened to notice, that if u throw your shield with the Dread Flight Upgrade (Your Special can strike up to 3 additional foes before returning), your Shield gets shorter throw range
wonder if its intended
@soft sluice it might be best to contact them directly about something so specific.
they've released some for Bastion, if you wanna check em out
https://store.supergiantgames.com/products/bastion-original-sheet-music
Does Guan Yu sing when using Lunar spin?
It plays a note, I don't think I hear any specific singing.
Yes, it's interesting.
ok
anybody have a good recommendation for a hades-like game other than the other supergiant games (played them all) and dead cells (waiting for the new DLC on tuesday)?
You looking for a roguelite or one that specifically is leveraging art and storytelling?
Children of Morta
Because for raw gameplay Nuclear Throne is my next favorite roguelite after Hades, but it is a very different beast.
Very similar. More... methodical pacing though.
Can feel a bit sluggish after Hades
i'm interested both gameplay and the storytelling part too
But it's a nice, very fun and beautiful action roguelite with solid progression and an endearing, if simple, story.
There is almost no story in NT, just a warning.
Almost nothing comes up to the standard of this for sheer quality of writing, but Morta is just... feel-good
Progression and mechanics are similar to Hades but distinct, more directly RPGish elements
alright. i saw good reviews of morta and it's on sale so i was really close. i think i'll pull the trigger, thanks
i'll check out NT too though, thank you
Just don't expect this kind of high speed constant action, heh
it's cool. i'm a fan of more methodical stuff too. slay the spire another of my favs
Then you might enjoy it. I certainly do, but I haven't gone back in a while.
Morta is alright. I can't make up my mind whether I like the artstyle or not. Dagger boy is fun.
Sunless sea has some roguelite elements if you play on Ironman and it is very story heavy.
i'll add it to my wishlist, thanks
huh there's a swearbot here. sunless sea looks awesome. thank you.
sunless sea... love/hate sorta game
Same
some people fall madly for it, others find it the most boring thing in existence
skies is kinda the same
i'm okay with that. it's worth it to me if i find a game i obsess over if i have to go through a couple i don't care about
I love failbetter stories, I wish they wrote books
What’s this NT and Morta games you are talking about?
I just wish the train handled better, tbh.
So I can check them out too 🙂
Children of morta. Isometric beatemup
Nuclear Throne, Children of Morta
Nuclear Throne, twinstick shooter roguelite.
Also Binding of Isaac is still generally very good
Gungeon if you're feeling like a hardass
Are they going to add more gods?
Ooh, I check them out if they are being recommended. Thanks! 😊
I don't think I care for Gungeon.
gungeon was... fine, IMO. spent a lot of time with isaac
Yeah Gungeon is also... kinda divisive
I personally am not up for bullet hell levels of hard.
Binding of Issac is too grotesque for my liking 😅
technical issues have gone away so now i can actually play hoorah
I personally like Risk of Rain a lot though.
I've put a lot of hours into Isaac but haven't played it in two or three years.
Gungeon is brutal but it's hard done right
Done right for me is moderate, because I have poor reaction times and some muscle issues
I've been loving Dead Cells. I'm kicking myself I didn't get it or Hollow Knight earlier.
I only say "that was BS" of I get a framedrop on gungeon
Hollow Knight!
Oh, try sundered.
Hollow Knight is incredible, even if I can barely get through unmodded
i got dead cels in early access but i didn’t get into hollow knight much
I did. Couldn't get past the art.
i played dead cells sso much in beta but haven'tt ouched it since official release so i'm waiting for the new DLC drop on tues, very excited
hollow knight is amazing
Blasphemous is supposed to be a good time
Okay, we're starting to move #off-topic-discussion
True
Oh. Oh. Last one. This is really out there, niche rec, but Dungeon Munchies
Short currently but really leverages charming aesthetic, fun story, customizability. Not really roguelite though.
have they said when achievements will be coming
Post Early Access afaik
Omg that name is adorable
"A simple steamed fish is complete." She's holding a ham with a Flinstones bone that goes through it, and it's got the "You think people would just go on the internet and tell lies?" face.
Alright, this banana screenshot has awakened something in me. Gonna have to unpack if it's good or bad.
Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well.
Meow
Grats
ok so I just noticed (as I had felt but couldn't prove) that my in game sensitivity is MUCH lower than out of game. Meaning tabbed out I have my normal sensitivity and then when i tab in, instantly my sens is down by like half. Anyone have advice on how to fix this or should this be a bug report/feature request?
Scratch what I said. After testing again and looking closer it seems less like my sensitivity went down and more like the game isn't registering mouse movements for fractions of a second. It is not my mouse as when i tab out movement is smooth as can be.
it makes it feel like sens is slower because it isn't picking up all the movements
@alpine mural There's a setting that affects it negatively afaik
Mouse lock
As far as I know. I had to look it up again
But mouse lock is a bit busted
@wintry bridge i asked about your suggestion earlier too and was met with "not really" but i get her legendary every run it seems
yeah, i think saying 3/4ths is already a pretty conservative guess on my part
that's just because she's new and she doesn't have that many boons
i usually get a chill boon just cause they're pretty useful and almost every run i get her legendary at some point
and also building it is pretty basic
hm so out of curiosity where would be the most appropriate channel for reporting a grammatical dialogue error
f10 it ingame, like you would for a bug!
OOF i forgot to do that when it happened but i can do it on another file
it was something i encountered last night but i went to bed shortly afterward haha
Hol up, runs don't carry across to other computers? I'm a little confused about how save files transfer, anyone know about this?
Epic cloud doesn't work yet, Steam's does.
it’s pretty easy to manually transfer, they’re in Documents\Saved Games\Hades
If you've got Hades on Epic (like I do) you'll have manually transfer files.
@brisk trail why tho
Because for all of Epic's cash the EGS is still fairly young.
This is like changing the files to have your FOV at 110 kind of thing
we still have to do that sort of thing in 2020 games tho
Cloud saves are being rolled out.
the egs is not exactly young, it's just they take their sweet time on development :p
also, what exactly does God Mode give?
You become invincible normally, so you take no damage
GM gives you passive damage resistance, which goes up each time you die
DR caps at 80% naturally
ah, alrighty
also i know it normally is invulnerability in games, jushuu, i just meant in Hades :p
Yeah well I was also speaking about Hades
WTF I just saw a room I never saw before, it was a food symbol after I rerolled it from gems
Placeholder if nothing else is available. Did you have three branches, with gems, Darkness, and Keys?
he probably means nectar
Oh, right, forgot about Nectar.
you can see all of the possible options in this message
https://discordapp.com/channels/456889434672201729/520688402958516254/660997126800539658
I'm weak. It's 11 30 pm and I feel like going to sleep.
would be kind of surprising if they've never seen nectar and they can reroll the room rewards
the game doesn't really explain which rewards can be re-rolled into which
I've seen food rarely as a reward from erebus exits
you only get "food" from Erebus if you lose
not the onion, the rooms exiting erebus, burrito reward
there's no food room
It does exist
Like I said, it's a placeholder.
It doesn't just show up in a run, but under certain circumstances you can force a food spawn.
is that specific to a version or something? I've literally never seen that in over 150 hours and have been playing since early January
It is extremely rare.
there's nothing about this in either the wiki or the stickied message in gameplay
i've seen food as an exit option twice and i've been playing since the initial release - it's not in my room reward resource because i have no idea where, exactly, it can show up
is it a no encounter room, like the fountain?
it acts like a regular room
which would you say is a very fun duo boon to use?
I wonder why it doesn't show up in the normal pool then
this is very old though
it sure is!
is this 2018?
i did say i've only seen it come up twice.
hmmm
looking at the version number, that was the patch before high speed
Is it better to focus on getting one boon really via door rerolls and the like, or is it better to use those to get a diverse set of boons , in general?
really strong*
yeah sorry, to continue from before, it was definitely a FOOD room and not a nectar room, rerolled from gems after being offered 3 paths: gems, darkness, key
I brun rerolls on getting ambrosia for random poms
I didn't know food was even in the reward pool
poms will get less effective as the boon gets higher level
personally, i use rerolls on darkness doors because i'd rather have literally any other option
Thanks for the insights.
will unhealthy fixation still one-shot me if I'm in the way? 
food probably got knocked out of the room pool with the addition of new resources, and probably some updating to the resource system behind the scenes
i usually saw food after i did erebus, before the heat rework
@loud spire no, that's been fixed
good news is, you can now one shot enemies with deflect!
me gusta
don't worry though, it'll be getting fixed soon, too
Nice!
just realized the food icon is a gyro and not a taco
it is worth it if you max it out
at level 1 its horrible, you die in 1-2 hits and hearts only give you like 5 hp
Okay. Good to know!
I like the spear more than the other weapons personally so I was curious is all
its really powerful, some same its the best weapon, i'd say that's still chaos shield but GY is really good
its probably the strongest spear aspect atm. I still like the playstyle of Achilles spear more personally
I love the shield but Chaos Shield is something I struggle wioth a bit
what do you have a hard time with?
Can't figure out if I should try to get the Bull Rush charge up reduction to just spam multiple shields. I struggle to seem to get it off
If I don't get that, but I usually end up spending all my rerolls tring to get a hammer
bull rush reduction hammer definitely helps but its not needed
Do you have to charge it up all the way to get the multi-shield proc?
So you just alternate between BR and Special until clear?
Does it work well against Hades?
I struggle against him with everything but the spear
yes, very well. you can hold BR down and block all his attack besides beam and the green urns that blow up
Noice
so, block his attack, BR through him, send shields, repeat
SO wortyh to max Chaos Shield to get the max additioonal procs?
absolutely
you can also block beam
Thanks for the tips! Going to give that a whirl while I wait to get enough titans blood for maxing YG
How do you earn heat for skelly's rewards?
use the pact of punishment modifiers
You must complete a run with the heat at the level shown
Do you get more heat as a reward if you add more than is required?
heat is not earned or rewarded, you decide how much heat you want to use before a run using the pact of punishment
you need to beat hades once to unlock it
I have unlocked the pact of punishment and use it, so how do I earn the heat needed to unlock skelly's rewards? I have two of it but dont know how I got it
when you open the pact of punishment, you can pick which pact challenges you want to use on your run on the right side of the interface. each when you enable is worth a certain amount of heat (the number to the right of the description). for instance, the first rank of Hard Labor is worth 1 Heat. You need to enable enough Heat modifiers on your run to unlock skellys statues. i believe the first one is at Heat 8
got it, thanks
np
any tips for finding thanatos?
like finding him during a run, or back at the house?
anyone knows if this master piece will be on switch?
probably like 2 years after release lol
yeah once its out of early access. Don't think nintendo allows early access titles.
Unreal Engine can definitely port to switch though shouldn't be a problem
is there an easy way to get to sisyphus? i want the companion
or get to him frequently
How are companions even unlocked?
So it's a relationship thing?
believe so
Ah, some of em seem to not be willing to accept stuff after a certain point tho
Games a roguelike guys you need to play more and grind for everything basically. Dont think theres an easy way to get him frequently
To unlock companions, you need to gift Meg/ Than/ Skelly/ Sisyphus/ Dusa Nectars every time you see them. After like 5-6 Nectars you will get a special dialogue with them, and some of them will give you a quest or special requirement. after you have completed the quest/ special dialogue they will start accepting Ambrosia and will not longer accept Nectar. The first Ambrosia will give you the companion
there is no way to get to Sisyphus other than running into him in Tartarus during a run
Meg and Than have no special requirements outside of dialogue. Skelly requires you to kill him with a fully upgraded Zag Aspect sword. Sisyphus requires you to speak to Meg/ Hades about his sentence and then buy out his contract from the House Contractor for 10 diamonds. Dusa requires you to improve the Lounge area at the House Contractor to a certain point
10 diamonds???
how do you even get another one after the first hydra kill
@quartz estuary
you can get diamonds from completing some of the Prophesies at the Fated List of Minor Prophecies which you unlock at the House Contractor. it costs 20 Gems to unlock it and you may have to play a bit before it becomes an option. You also get Diamonds from every Hydra kill you do on a new Heat level. You can increase you Heat level using the Pact of Punishment which unlocks after you have defeated Hades once
@river sky
Companions are really more of a late-game feature. I didn't get my Companions until I had cleared the game a number of times already
np, good luck!
that depends on how many Companions you want to max out. it takes like 15 Ambrosia per companion to get it to level 5
i probably traded like 5 total ambrosia for titans blood. its okay to do once in awhile
o
ill keep it for now then
and i need 2 titan blood up upgrade the shield, so i couldnt upgrade it yet anyway
which shield aspect are you trying to upgrade?
zeus
cool. i prefer Chaos aspect myself, but as long as youre not just upgrading the default one go with what you like
I haven't unlocked Zeus yet, but from the description it sounds more interesting
zeus aspect is real fun as a way to mix up ur style
The cool thing about the Zeus shield is that you don't have to wait for your throws to return before blocking/attacking. The one good build I played with it I was just spamming attack+special on same press in enemies faces.
zeus shield is cool if you can land it in the right spot it can be a constant damage spot
I love this game!! I almost got all of the upgrades for sword and finished spear. I went for a full ares and artemis build and ended up melting the hydra and one of the fury's in under a few seconds
and one of the weapon upgrades i used was that when i held my Attack+ spam special on spear i melted anything in my range.
its a great game
yeah
i was worried i wouldnt like it as much compared to binding of isaac and dead cells
but i think it hangs very well with them
no joke i'm just waiting for a fight with scylla and her husband
dont recognize that name
scylla is a girl who was cursed by aphrodite, and her husband was left her under a huge rock
she has several snake like heads
ah medusa?
no
many depictions of scylla is that she is deep in the rock, and her snake like heads bear resemblance to dog faces
and she'd kill anyone who go near her rock near today's greece
i stopped following up on mythology, and i just laugh it off when other games fail to portray things not so accurate.
like how zeus is literally the worst god to be worlds worst dad
do you guys think the EotM portraits are foreshadowing love interests?
@weak canyon What do you mean about Zeus?
Zeus made most of the greek pantheon
and the fact that we got the good dionysis is amazing! Thank god we didn't get Pan, or the god of total madness dionysis. And in some folklore dionysis was told to be ruler of a part of the underworld
Well, I mean, Zeus was still a lecher who slept with basically everyone...
agreed
the most accurate line about a god ^^
Hera though... the only reason she isn't goddess of vengeance is that Nemesis got there first.
yeah actually
God of total madness Dionysus... well, when you get all his boons and the festive fog duo stack, technically...
Just saying. That stuff with all the extras... isn't exactly wine.
yeah it's poison to anyone who can't stand it
When it's freezing cold and shoots lightning, it's a mad scientist's nightmare. Great stuff.
SGG really did pretty good research overall though. But I mean, they dug up Zagreus from somewhere...
imagine dionysis and hermes just getting stupidly drunk, and hermes is asking dionysis to rob a bank while hammered
You sure Hermes wouldn't be the one to go "hold my beer" and crash in?
Has anyone actually taken the option to mute Hermes?

