#h1-discussion

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strong heron
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if you're having a hard time beating, you might try focusing athena, aphro, or dio. defensive options

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it's ||hypnos||

split mauve
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yeah gift that person ^

tropic glade
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Please excuse my ignorance. How do I access my record screen outside of killing ||hades|| again?

opaque heron
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It defaults to B

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For Boons

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And C for Codex

tropic glade
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What is that in the control window?

opaque heron
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In terms of number of times beating the game? I dunno

tropic glade
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As in, what option

random sandal
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What are the thoughts on doom on attack?

tropic glade
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I can open my codex without issue, but records screen isn't in the codex

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Doom on attack without also being able to also reapply it? lol no

random sandal
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Just got a terrible boon then

sharp parcel
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@tropic glade look for boons menu in controls

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or something along those lines

thick ivy
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hello, i just had a thought and i was wondering if anyone else thinks so. zagreus' confused/curious portrait looks like he's the second panel in a "hey girls, did you know" meme

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thanks for listening

sharp parcel
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it also shows you the room number in the upper right corner

tropic glade
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@sharp parcel thank you, i'm clicking around now, i'll report back

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@sharp parcel I don't see a results screen. I'll leave it in the feedback channel.

wraith cipher
brisk trail
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You can individually check each weapon's number of clears, fastest clear, number of enemies slain, and highest Heat in the weapon courtyard, and if you buy the scrying pool from the Contractor you can check total Escape Attempts.

tropic glade
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@wraith cipher that's my point

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Let us see it other than doing another run

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our 'current progress' if you wil

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will

random sandal
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I’m so confused

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I took a chaos boom

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But it’s not showing up in my character sheet

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And I’m certain it’s been way more than the 3 encounters

wraith cipher
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can you take a screen of your boons?

random sandal
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It doesn’t let us post screens in here right?

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Athenas aid or sure footing?

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I feel like most of my damage comes from traps in elysium

brisk trail
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Aid like most of the time, then get poms to level it up

random sandal
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Kk

brisk trail
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Sure Footing is better than Athena's Aid.

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Especially with Heightened Security.

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If you've got absolutely mindscrew bonkers damage, Athena's Aid a B-tier boon.

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Otherwise it's C.

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@random sandal some advice i can give you, shield is best weapon, it pairs well with attack boons. like Athene's defect one or Zeus's Lightning attack. and dash back and forth to attack, standing still is generaly a bad idea.

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The buff makes it insane

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Like you can get 0.7 seconds per level

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That adds up very quickly

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For athena aid

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Oh, and Dionisius has a great cast and combo Boons.

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Dio with shield is great in general honestly

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You thought it was the god of wine, but it was me DIO!!!!

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^

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"Shine! KakyouinTheseus!"

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But in all seriousness hangover on attack is great because shield tends to attack surprisingly fast

random sandal
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Ooo I’m having a good one bois

brisk trail
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@random sandal one other thing, dont take the curses where you lose health on attack. it is never worth it. on specials and casts, sure, but never for attacks

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lost two runs in a row that way

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becasue i just HAD to work on the fates lists

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I've ground out no Attack before in Tartarus.

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so have i. only to realise, the gate i picked it up on, was right before the boss fight.

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Depends on what you have, really. Usually tho, your attack will be your main source of damage, so it likely will backfire

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this happened, twice in a row. i won the fight. but used all 3 death defiance's on it.

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Exactly

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the only exception i can think of is, some very specials casts, or when using Chirons bow.

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Railgun that isn't hestia can get away with spamming specials for a little while

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oh god. i just thought of something horrible, that curse, with the rail

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oh god no

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Uh yeah don't left-click ever LOL

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but it's not that bad because railgun special is like probably the best special

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Also, is it just me, or is the rail just, bad? it can get some reat specials through hammers and stuff, but its normal attack just seems, awful.

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Normal attack with zeus

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Just sayin'

foggy coral
brisk trail
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Pair it with demeter and it can do wonders

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Fair enough

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Holy cast build jesus

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^ like that

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Splitting Bolt pushes this kinda build out of the water, but even without it the damage is good

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fair enough. but just speaking in gerneral terms, the rail seems like the worst of the weapons

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I needed Splitting Bolt to deal enough damage to beat Elysium in time.

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Rail has some of the better hammer upgrades

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and like, half of the upgrades are great

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i suppose

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It's got a high skill floor, but it's tied-ish for the best weapon in the game.

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that's a good thing for consistency

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Also not the easiest to use

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Looking at you, shield

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i say the shield is the best weapon, but i just have more experence with it.

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Shield is like the "better" weapon overall due to it's safety

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it can lack in damage at times, but it's manageable

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it attacks very quickly, and can get an upgrade to hit twice every attack

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Like Ares/Dio fixes it's weakness instantly

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and I do say at times

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It's got defense, which is more than any other weapon has outside of outranging.

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^

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Bull rush is just amazing, period

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Mobility AND defense

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i dont really use that. i just dash back and forth like a madman

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You can do both

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i do block things sometimes. but only rarely

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Like, incorporate bull rush in your playstyle to then transition into bashing the enemy

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Like approach with it, you can still block hits while moving forward

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Shield does fine without it.

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takes just a bit too long to get the shield up for blocking to be usefull often

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^ fair

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@brisk trail Funny to say that, uh ?

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A great tool isn't needed to make the shield good, really does say how powerful the weapon is

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i say shield best weapon, without using half of its features.

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Possidans sword is also very good. just a bit slower.

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so much cast damage

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For sure

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it's the DeFacto weapon for speedruns

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because Artemis cast can reach dumb levels of damage

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huh, i never considerd that one very good

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sure, homing, but its not exactly, spectacular.

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Decent damage + can crit

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  • you get it back with the Poseidon sword special
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And poseidon boosts it too

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Poseidon cast. lots of damage, and splash radious

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It's a decent one too

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Poseidon cast is genuinely under-explored IMO

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its powerfull, not very flashy. but it works

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Like Poseidon attack and special can suck it, Cast, Dash, and Aid are good

deep pivot
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Poseidon’s boons are like playing pinball with enemies

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I had a funny run with them with Shield of Chaos

brisk trail
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yeah, knockback on your normal attacks is, a mixed bag.

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great for wall slamming

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bad if you dont want to have to chase them across an open room

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The thing with Poseidon

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is bosses

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His room clears are unparalleled, it's just the moment you hustle it up with the big baddies, his low damage kinda shows itself

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fair enough

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onto a less controversial topic. Dusa best girl. dusa

deep pivot
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Meg fans are disappointed

brisk trail
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i will fight you IRL

viscid flicker
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no reason you can't have more than one best girl

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also, artemis best girl

random sandal
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Damn

brisk trail
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Look, all I'm saying is that Meg wanted to hold my hand, ||but Dusa didn't||.

random sandal
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Picking this Pom is real tough

brisk trail
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@brisk trail das racist

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Oi.

random sandal
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Add .8 seconds to my call?

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Or increase dash strike damage

brisk trail
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dash

random sandal
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Or increase support fire damage

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I have like 3 other boobs adding dash strike damage

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My call is Athena’s aid

brisk trail
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(i have like three other boobs)

random sandal
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And I have a boon that makes me start with 25% call meter

brisk trail
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id say dash damage

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if you play like i do, you will get a lot more out of it than the others

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wait

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wat dash

random sandal
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Shield

brisk trail
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... Athena's ?

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Normal Dash attack

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I mean the dash boon

random sandal
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Hunter dash

viscid flicker
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artemis dash strike, probably

brisk trail
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oh

random sandal
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This is a tough one

brisk trail
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Either that or Athena's, hm.

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I'd say Athena's

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That extra time on the aid is huge

random sandal
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I use the aid quite a bit

brisk trail
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If its dash ATTACK. then that, if its damage from dashing. probably the aid

random sandal
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Ahh too late

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Went aid

brisk trail
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Artemis' Hunter Dash boosts the damage of your dash attack

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It's ok on shield, decent with the right hammers

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Athena call being boosted by poms tho, oh boi that is universally great

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well, glad we sorted that out.

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have a geko.

ocean kayak
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ooooh! gekko!!

random sandal
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Wow

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Got hades down to like 15% of his 2nd phase

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On first try

brisk trail
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nice

random sandal
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That build was rigged

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Deflect is so good

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If I knew I was about to fight hades I could have won

brisk trail
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dang bots

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anyways. congrats.

red coral
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@random sandal please spoiler tag or remove the identity of the final boss from your post!

foggy coral
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wtf I just one shot ||Hades|| from 90%hp in second phase

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what happened

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is it cause of charm?

sharp parcel
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did you have Athena's boons?

foggy coral
sharp parcel
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there's a bug with deflected damage being higher than intended sometimes

foggy coral
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interesting, first time happening to me, I use deflect a lot usually

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this was the first time I used charm tho

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wonder if it has anything to do with it

sharp parcel
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there was a similar bug related to charm as well, but it was fixed

deep pivot
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When a mod gets ignored #feelsbadman

proud orbit
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literally right after her message too lol

brisk trail
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I'm surprised the banne didn't come down.

chilly stump
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Looks like the over an hour of time difference between the two messages probably has something to do with it. 😄

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Hey @foggy coral when you have a chance please spoiler tag or remove the name of the last boss from your message above! We try to keep this discussion as spoiler free as possible.

umbral sigil
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Where would I report a minor bug I stumbled on?

flat vapor
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f10 in-game!

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it brings up a bug reporter

alpine stratus
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yup

umbral sigil
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Awesome, thanks.

foggy coral
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@chilly stump done, sorry

chilly stump
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No worries, thank you!

west chasm
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Am i the only one who dislikes how the shield's spikes clip on the model?

brisk vale
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can anyone help me?

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I gave sisypus 6 nectars

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then talked to him a few times

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I still cant see the option to buy his thing on the renovation merchant

wraith cipher
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did you talk to meg and hades at the house?

brisk vale
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many times

sharp wing
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Hey people! Is there something special you have to do to get Demeter to start showing up?

wraith cipher
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i think it was just once each

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I dont know for certain but i think she spawns after getting to the final boss or beating the final boss once, as zag references the final boss room when he first grabs the boon

sharp wing
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Ohhh

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I actually made it to the final boss for the first time yesterday

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I can almost beat it

brisk vale
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when do you guys buy the "the next boon you get will be upgraded" option from the purple water shop? is it worth it? I am running increased shop cost penalty so I am wondering if I should skip that all the time

night turret
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Never, mostly because it's never there for me >_> Also there is some additional dialogue with Heroes, if you manage bring it to them.

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Rarety is such a gamble tbh

brisk vale
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maybe only take it if you know the next boon via trinklet or its in the next room?

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its quite expensive though, around 125g

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Any tips with the difficult version of the heroes(act3) fight? I lose more hp to them than hades -.-

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there are so many projectiles on screen

west chasm
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So i just had a weird bug

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That basically ruined the entire audio

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Some voice lines do not trigger, Alecto can only be heard from the left speaker, plenty of sound effects and background music straight up does not play, the max charge sound effect for shield loops permanently even after dead, stopping only when hitting enemies, and returning shortly after you stop damaging them

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Update: Hades is barely whispering from the left speaker when talking to him

brittle citrus
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I have run into this problem before too. The final boss didn't have some voice lines, though Zag sounded fine. At first I thought the lines may have just not been recorded but after returning to the house the issue persisted with Achilles and Hades, which is when I realised they sounded far away, and also in my left speaker.

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I think it cleared up after I paused and unpaused the game

deep pivot
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That also happened to me once. I reported it with F10 just in case

brittle citrus
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Still, I had the problem again yesterday I think

deep pivot
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You guys should as well so they take note of that

brittle citrus
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Will do

ocean kayak
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one of hades' lines just made me cackle

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"mortals are kept in check by the fear of death. you'd better learn to fear something."

mental sleet
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h m m m m m m

ocean kayak
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"since you can't die, you'd just BETTER learn to fear...something."
trying to make someone who literally has nothing to fear AND nothing to lose spontaneously obtain some vulnerability to exploit. "fear me OR ELSE".

alpine stratus
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hades: can you PLEASE be afraid of SOMETHING for me to exploit
zag: im afraid youll never be a good father
all the shades: OOOO BURRRN

proud orbit
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hades: i'll miss you son
zagreus:

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that'll scare him

alpine stratus
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NXJCJV MAYBE SO...

deep pivot
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I thiiiink Zagreus would fear losing someone really important to him shadeohboy

west chasm
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Zagreus: annoys hades
Hades: is not a good father figure and creates a deep trauma on him
Zagreus: has the big sad
Hades: 😎

alpine mural
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soooo any tips on doing "The Gift Of Song" prophecy?

deep pivot
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Spam that lyre while you multitask

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And do it before every run until Zag plays it well

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Spam it for about a minute or two before each run and, eventually , you will get it done

unborn spoke
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ya it took me about 5 or so runs

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then it started sounding like someone was playing a norm guitar

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a country one

brisk trail
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I don't like how long the gaps between plays are once you start progressing.

west chasm
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Y'know, i have been wondering

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Could Hades ever get a mod community?

brisk trail
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There are already people actively modding what they can.

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SGG has gone on the record as saying it's not a priority, but ask again once 1.0 is out.

west chasm
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I'm not sure what engine SG uses but if i can manage to grasp it i'd like to add some stuff

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Yeah it's common for people to accept modding support is not given in early access

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But RoR2 has an already strong modding community

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Mostly thanks to the malleability of the Unity engine

alpine mural
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any tips on getting some of the duo boons?

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specific ones for the prophecy

brisk trail
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Most Duos require two core boons (Attack, Special, Cast, Dash, or Call) from two different Gods.

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A very basic example is Hunting Blades, which requires Ares's Cast boon, Slicing Shot, and any other core boon from Artemis.

alpine mural
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so i am trying to get Scintillating Feast and have trippy shot and Zeus's Aid why am i not getting the duo boon?

proud orbit
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just unlucky

unborn spoke
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its jsut RNG

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*just

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sometimes the game just hates us

alpine mural
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went through two runs both to last boss and didn't get it once

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now i am going to bed

unborn spoke
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ni ni

weak spoke
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Man that Harsh Conditions prophecy is a satisfying mark off the list

unborn spoke
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🙂

slate thicket
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is there a way to track how many

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hours youve put into Hades on the epic games client?

untold basin
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@slate thicket You should be able to just press the three dots next to 'launch' - then it's at the bottom of the window. Unless it was changed recently

slate thicket
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!!thanks

untold basin
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No problem!

slate thicket
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also, 264+ hours :0

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i havent gone this hard on a game in a while

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aside from maybe league :p

untold basin
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Nice. It feels like I am counting down the hours for the next update as well 😛

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WHich is unusual for me

slate thicket
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i still dont have a ton of heat lol

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ive been playing since release day

untold basin
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I'm usually very much 'meh it'll come out whenever'. But I need that new weapon!

slate thicket
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so the heat reset kinda set me back

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and im

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doing every weapon +1 heat to keep them even

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so some of the weapons im bad at are slowing me down 0.o

untold basin
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That is what I was doing on hell mode also, then after 16 I just said screw it let me try 32 and 'accidentally' won. Super shaky/sweaty hands on that finish

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No worries, as long as you are having fun adamvsYES

slate thicket
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is hell mode a newgame plus kind of deal lol

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i havent messed w it yet

untold basin
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"Hell mode is a harder difficulty option that may be selected when creating a new save file. This option cannot be changed later and disables God Mode from use. Selecting Hell Mode has Zagreus start the game with the Pact of Punishment immediately in use. The Pact of Punishment has five mandatory conditions with Hell Mode exclusive condition, Personal Liability, which removes the impervious shield that Zagreus briefly gains upon taking massive damage. Upon completion of a successful run, Zagreus must add additional heat according to the weapon's current bounty level to the Pact to continue to use the weapon he had used to complete it."

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That was longer than I thought it would be

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Just a slightly harder/more punishing type of save file

slate thicket
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oh

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so im doing that

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anyhow

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kinda

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i just dont wanna reset and lose all my bonds ;-;

untold basin
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Yeah, I did that. Started on a normal file and unlocked everything and then restarted on Hell mode. The no invincible frames after hit is brutal sometimes, but otherwise it isn't much different (that pact doesn't exist on normal and is mandatory on hell mode)

slate thicket
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i mean

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you can just use spearpoint or athena venge to get it anyhow

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right?

untold basin
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Yes but some things can still melt you when spearpoint is on cooldown or such for sure. But they are definitely valuable

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I had Hades beam nuke me for 150+ damage on one run because I dashed the wrong way 😦

stoic quail
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Heat reset? Is progress going to be lost with updates?

slate thicket
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not any more prob

untold basin
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I guess more accurately I tried to dash on top of him and overshot and got nuked before my brain realized what I did wrong adamvsLUL

slate thicket
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but a while back there was a pact rework

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that reset heat

stoic quail
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Right. Fair enough.

slate thicket
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it used to be a currency remember lol

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oh man

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i also miss the days of 10 death defiance stacks haha

stoic quail
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I only just started this update. Got it in the sale 2 weeks ago. Best purchase in a long time. I thought nothing would live up to Dead Cells in this genre but Hades is doing it

slate thicket
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oh my goodness

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Hades has absolutely killed it with this game

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i tried to go back to transistor and replay that

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but the mechanics of Hades are just so much more fluid and smooth that i cant

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imho Hades goes down as a genere defining roguelike for this decade

untold basin
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This game has one huge problem. I will always want more of it 😛 Let's fight through Olympus and then go off to other mythos and kill stuff there too! Sadly I know they can only add so much

slate thicket
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I've been a huge Supergiant fan since day one

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but Hades just knocks it out of the park even more

lime token
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yeah this game is insane

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bought it january 22nd and already 80 hours

untold basin
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Makes me curious. I haven't checked my hours recently

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Got the game on Jan 13th and have 139 hours so far

stoic quail
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I've played an unreasonable amount of hours in these last 2 weeks. I've been off work sick so it's basically all I've been doing in between sleeping

slate thicket
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i have too many other irons in the fire to play that frequently haha

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also something about being around since day one

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has kinda kept me slow and steady

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i found my happy pace to not burn out

untold basin
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I'm fortunate to be able to do it as a job, so the 140 hours in 3.5 weeks doesn't seem so bad 😛

slate thicket
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are you a full time content creator: :0

untold basin
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Yep

lime token
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cool

stoic quail
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It's your job? But what do you do wheb you off work sick then?!

slate thicket
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i tried that for a while

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with Destiny 2

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but im not a very good e-girl :p

untold basin
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@stoic quail I just play without having to talk then adamvsLUL

stoic quail
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Find yourself talking anyway out of habit I'd bet

untold basin
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lol, hasn't happened yet ... but there is still time

slate thicket
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i hear that full time streaming makes time off really tough to have

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bc even a 48 hour streaming gap can cause massive sub loss

untold basin
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That is true to an extent. I've not had a vacation or more than 1-2 days off at a time in almost three years

slate thicket
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i like

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having PTO

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XD

untold basin
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Yeah, that is a big part of it. If I don't stream for a night when I am supposed to I get $0. Doesn't matter how sick etc. Definitely miss pto

slate thicket
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also being a public figure is exhauuusting for me lol

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im a bit of an introvert so

untold basin
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Introvert in the streets extrovert on the streams! Definitely gets exhausting sometimes

slate thicket
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people are scary 0.o

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i dont think i could handle the harassment either

untold basin
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Yeah, I know a few girls who stream and from day one they get creepy people. Luckily, as a male streamer, I've only ran into a few over the last 2-3 years

slate thicket
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just not worth it at this point really running any streams

untold basin
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Gotcha. I know a streamer who is trans and she has done pretty well. I am sure she gets tons of crap though, unfortunately

slate thicket
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its part of existing : ^)

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anyhow weve drifted wildly off topic and im sleepy, so goodnight XD

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ty for the help earlier

untold basin
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Woops. Guess I will loop it back around. Hades is awesome, and I've been super lucky to play it 40 hours a week the last three weeks adamvsLOVE

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No problem!

delicate arrow
viscid oriole
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Hello guys can anyone who is aware of the fastest time in the latest update inform me on that ?

wraith cipher
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oh uh, obviously spoilerss in that

jade grove
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<> the link

wraith cipher
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sorry, huh? 😅

patent umbra
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if you wrap a link <> it doesn't load the video

wraith cipher
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oh!

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thanks!

unborn spoke
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wow

viscid oriole
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thank you !
@wraith cipher

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so i take it cast build is the strongest at this point ? since he doesnt even bother touching the weapon he uses

wraith cipher
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its the fastest. cast builds are really strong but you also see chaos shield other weapons at high heat

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i heard for a while nemesis sword was the go to speedrun weapon

plush pike
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Oooh, I wonder if there will be seeds

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So those who speedrun all have the same run. I hope this makes sense

silent forge
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|| https://youtu.be/OZVWb-PYGqQ || this seems to be the current world record. 7:22 in game time
@wraith cipher So lucky on those first two boons 😮

brisk trail
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Guys is it normal that in 27 mins i've reached the final Boss

jade grove
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about average?

brisk trail
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What u meqn

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Mean*

jade grove
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Not the fastest, not super slow

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Usually around that time I get to Hades as well

weak spoke
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I'd be really curious to know the amount in minutes of voice acting there is in this game

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I was kind of stunned by just how much dialogue they recorded for it.

unborn spoke
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probly alot.

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Zag being the most

silent forge
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Pretty sure that at this point they just have mics on all the time in the office and address each other by their character names

unborn spoke
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Well who knows for sure but at least it was well done

quasi walrus
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Whooo I know no one cares but I finally beat it and I'm buzzed

strong heron
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congratulations!

quasi walrus
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Thanks!

plush pike
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Nice going, friendo, decent time too for first clear

quasi walrus
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Thank ye, didn't use any death defiances either idk what happened

unborn spoke
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grats hun 🙂

deep pivot
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Congratulations 🍾🎉🎊

unborn spoke
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i need to finish it with the bow and rail....trying to determine how to work that

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since for me both weapons kind of bite

tawny patio
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I'd say Rail is easier with all the explosions

unborn spoke
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well the way i play they bite lol

tawny patio
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Pick Erin's Aspect, Go for big damage boost boons, bomb everything, clear the low HP ones with bullets. Pretty much that.

unborn spoke
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nods

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big dmg....which ones

tawny patio
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Bullets can work well with Zeus / Dio

unborn spoke
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Zeus i tried but they fall off

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the bullets that is

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at the end

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didn't kill fast enough

tawny patio
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Aphrodite is kinda big damage. Also Artemis / Ares

unborn spoke
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i could never see her dmg

tawny patio
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Yeah. You really need to invest heavily into Zeus' boons to make it work

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I heard Aphrodite's attack / special boons gives the highest +% damage compared to others'

unborn spoke
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okie for one run i will have to try a full run of nothing but her

tawny patio
#

Well I wouldn't play like that.

unborn spoke
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lol k

tawny patio
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Game may troll you with very few boons from the very god you want

unborn spoke
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are you kidding me i get boned by the RNG every game

tawny patio
#

3 candidates for each slot is safe enough, I guess

unborn spoke
#

its like for 3 or 4 rooms in a row sometimes

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get only darkness or keys

tawny patio
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Better than my games today: boons are not rare, but not the useful ones.

unborn spoke
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yuck

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ive got 105 hours so far

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ive been really trying to do well.

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but RNG bites me hard

tawny patio
#

Well there isn't much you can do to mitigate the RNG problem

unborn spoke
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nu and thats the challenge of this game to

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RNG

tawny patio
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So um, just keep going I guess.

unborn spoke
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...hence you see my problems

viscid flicker
#

the triple special hammer upgrade got me my first rail win i'm pretty sure

unborn spoke
#

for bombs or missles?

viscid flicker
#

either is good, but to have triple missiles you need the missile upgrade and the triple upgrade

unborn spoke
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yes i know hun

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ive even gotten once cluster 5 way missles

viscid flicker
#

that sounds pretty awesome

unborn spoke
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ya you need cluster bombs...then missles

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and you got it

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-50 dmg thingy tho

tawny patio
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It's only -30% now

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Buffed in the latest patch

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So hurray

unborn spoke
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omg yes thats true

dawn pumice
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athena call op

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$$$$

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finally beat it lol

unborn spoke
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grats hun

quasi walrus
#

Just noticed that Chaos has darkness earrings. I approve

crystal plume
#

Is there a way I can re read dialogue I skipped a convo accidently

tawny patio
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If a convo is worth reading, it's probably one-time only.

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I'd start a new save when the game is out of early access just to read all the dialogues again

crystal plume
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Ah damn thank you though

unborn spoke
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🙂

next summit
#

uh, anyone got tips for fishing? I'm awful at it bunnnSad

unborn spoke
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oh thats simple

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wait till the bobber goes ALL the way into the water and yank it back up

next summit
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ok, I'll try later

patent umbra
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pause and unpause over and over until you get a perfect catch

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dirty but effective

viscid flicker
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there's a flash of light that only appears on the real dip--i find that easier to go off of than looking at the actual sphere thing

austere panther
#

Finally started playing last night and this game bangs, I can consistently make it to Elysium too with most of the weapons so that's just a testament to good design

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There was a graphical glitch I noticed tho so I was wondering if I would put it in #hades-feedback or somewhere else

random loom
carmine pecan
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how muhc darkness to max the last part of mirror?

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like the changing the room thingy

flat vapor
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a lot

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1k/2k/3k/4k/5k etc

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up to ten rerolls

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i think after 5k it shoots up to 10k and goes from there, actually

hexed smelt
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1k/2k/3k/4k/5k/10k/20k/30k/40k/50k

flat vapor
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165k darkness, then

next summit
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you can upgrade the mirror?

carmine pecan
#

WTF

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165k HOWFHSLD

livid cargo
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It was designed as a darkness sink

carmine pecan
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well then

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ima play without any heat for awhile

livid cargo
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Nah i wouldnt sweat trying to max it

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Cause now you can refill your rerolls with keys

carmine pecan
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what

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so basically if u have one reroll and u got enough keys just keep rerolling

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or theres a limit

proud orbit
#

no they mean that since keys give you charges of fated authority anyway it's less important to max

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when you pick em up

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if you have the contractor upgrade anyway

hexed pilot
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there's no real reason to grind out that much darkness for fated authority

proud orbit
#

i honestly think by the time you've grinded enough darkness for the full mirror to be maxed you're probably skilled enough to be playing with budget cuts on anyway lol

livid cargo
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But now since darkness can give max hp its somewhat valuable again

merry narwhal
#

Honestly if you're not interested in playing with budget cuts, I think having 1 use of Fated Authority is a good time to stop caring about Darkness if you've got an otherwise maxed mirror.

Anything extra is great but that first initial reroll is good.

brisk vale
#

is it me of dianysos start is really good with chaos shield

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posion on special carries you so easily even though you get terrible boons afterwards

full pendant
#

what is correct channel to talk about bugs/crashing

winter cape
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@brisk vale dio attack and ares special is the best on shield

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bonus with atermis support fire

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you kill everything so quickly

brisk vale
#

I feel like dio scales better than ares, and he has better synergies

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I like ares start too

winter cape
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dio + ares gives u status curse

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which amplifies dmg

brisk vale
#

yeah

winter cape
#

any mobs who got hit by a random shield just instantly die

brisk vale
#

yeah my last run had both doom and poison

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I almost lost due to bad play though

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I still lose so much hp to difficult version of act3 boss

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lost 2 deaths

winter cape
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just play it safe

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shield up, bull crash, special, dash

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rinse and repeat till he die

brisk trail
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so just beated the game, whats the point of heat levels

brisk vale
#

sometimes screen gets filled with whirlwind and bombs

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or bombs and charge

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its tricky to dodge those

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its newgame plus

winter cape
#

need to kill those bombs

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before they explode

brisk vale
#

oh

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they are killable?

winter cape
#

yea

brisk vale
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TIL lol

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you are talkinga bout act3 boss right? not hades

winter cape
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no im talking about hades

burnt breach
#

@west chasm Hey, there is a modding community for Hades. If you are interested, just scroll up a bit in #self-promotion

winter cape
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@brisk trail heat makes game more difficult and you get to earn more rewards

west chasm
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A modding community? Neat, i'd love to check it out...

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But wait, what language does Hades use for the code @burnt breach

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I wanna know if i should get excited

burnt breach
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lua

west chasm
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Dang

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Back to the lab again

burnt breach
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if you have modding related questions you can ask me, tho preferably on the modding discord (or in DM)

west chasm
#

Yeah that's obviously understandable

frank trail
#

what channel do I go to to post a Hades meme?

livid cargo
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I think here is ok

jade grove
#

#fan-works if it's a visual meme?

tight spire
#

@brisk trail rewards are based on heat. You only get titans blood/diamonds/ambrosia for the first time you beat each boss with each weapon on each heat level. So whatever weapon you beat the game with, if you play again without raising heat, you won't get any of those rewards, just darkness in its place.

jade grove
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Well, technically you can trade up to those with Nectar, but it's incredibly slow and not worth it as your main source.

frigid kindle
#

heyo! does anyone know if you can give ambrosia to more than one character?

jade grove
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Yes

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They're for unlocking and upgrading summons

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The bottom row keepsakes

frigid kindle
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oooh sweet!!

brisk vale
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why cant I post on feedback topic?

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I think difficult version of act 3 boss is really unfair

burnt breach
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@brisk vale please read the pin : 6. To be able to post, first visit #bot-commands and type ?rank Early Access

fresh orchidBOT
#

Please read the pinned messages in #hades-feedback before posting! Thank you for playing.

brisk vale
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charge lasts too long and sometimes it bugs and goes into columns but still hit you

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sometimes there are way too many projectiles

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and its hard to see which way the shield guy is facing

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act 3 boss shouldnt be 10 times harder than final boss imo

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I die like 2 3 times on act 3 boss and dont die at act 4 boss at all, I dont think thats logical

brisk vale
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I won again after wasting my 4 deaths on act 3 boss and only got hit 3 times in act 4 boss 😄

jade grove
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@rotund finch Yes please. I was just talking about that yesterday: "Zagreus throws a party and everyone except dad's invited"

rotund finch
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Yeah, I've seen a few people talking about something like that, I just love the visual that the entertainment table is like a D&D Table and they all play to humor Zag at max bond XD

jade grove
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"What: House Party
When: ASAP
Who: Absolutely Everyone Except Hades, go away dad
-Zagreus"

rotund finch
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I remember a while ago I was talking to someone about a family dinner/ Party in the lounge with Nyx, Meg, Than, and Hypnos, and hopefully Chaos too XD

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OH and the two other fury sisters as the ONE time they can come in the house

jade grove
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Hades~~,hiding manly tears~~: Hmph! I have... absolutely... no interest in your childish amusements! None whatsoever!

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Hades pretends he doesn't want to join. Secretly keeps sneaking glances at everyone having fun.

bold dome
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I know reconciliation with Hades is probably never going to happen. I still kind of want it to? Just because it would be nice to see in fiction something that so rarely happens irl. It's...hopeful. But then again, Hades is...himself.

inland shell
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@brisk vale you learn to time your dodges and value the obstacles. its an easy fight if you slow yourself down, like all the bosses

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take down mino first

austere panther
#

finally made it to hades for the first time

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died to that sudden beam I hadn't seen before during second phase 😩

jade grove
#

I actually wonder if Persephone's introduction will lead to that...

bold dome
#

Maybe!

crimson void
#

Do people dislike Hermes annoying or something? Why did he ask me if I wanted to mute him?

unborn spoke
#

i actually like him

bold dome
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Hermes is great~

#

thanthink Has anyone actually taken the option to mute Hermes?

brisk trail
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Some people have, I'm sure.

jade grove
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Is it permanent?

brisk trail
#

I think every so often he asks if you want to unmute him.

trail void
#

Hermes is one of my fav Olympians

brisk trail
#

He's pretty great.

narrow hemlock
#

its not permanent

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i've muted him for laughs and after some runs he'll ask if you want to keep him quiet or resume chatter

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he really doesnt care which option you choose

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so dont ever feel bad for muting him, he takes it in stride lmao

stiff summit
#

I hope we get Apollo and Hephaestus

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Couldnt care less for Hera

bold dome
#

Hera could always join Demeter in the "women salty at Zeus" club. I'm sure her and Zeus' god challenge rooms would be just great.

ocean onyx
#

Why did I just realise that dusa is just medusa without the me

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I feel like I should have seen that earlier

night turret
#

Ehm, I understand that you mean that "Hera could join Demeter in the salty club" in the game... But I really cant get over the fact that Hera is the Leader of that club.

primal whale
#

So chose Adamant arrowhead (artemis keepsake) for the second biome. Get a centaur heart for the first room which is fine, but the second room is exclamation mark and hermes.

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If I chose hermes room, would the boon turn into artemis?

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Or does this refer to when you find a boon, as in a shop or something

lament tangle
#

hermes is japes

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he doesn't count as a boon

night turret
#

It changes one of the first boon room in that biome @primal whale you will have to find a proper one.

primal whale
#

So the first boon room possibility I encountered was hermes

stiff summit
#

How many gods we still getting?

primal whale
#

would it change the boon I receive into artemis?

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Or is hermes outside of the normal choices

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Like hammer

night turret
#

Hermes does whatever he wants apparently

primal whale
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He is different than the other boons

#

no duo

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So maybe they consider him in the way they consider daedalus hammer

night turret
#

I think if explained somehow among the lines of "This is his secret gig and he doesn't want Olympus to know about that"

primal whale
#

Or maybe if you are given the exclamation mark room, they don't force you to choose the boon from your keepsake

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Haha well i dig it

jade grove
#

Hera is almost literally the goddess of salt

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C'mon

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I mean, Nemesis is OFFICIALLY the goddess of revenge, but the unofficial one is actually just Hera

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Sadly, no more Olympians for now

onyx wave
#

question: Does it seem like temple of styx is harder now? and I don't mean by enemy toughness I mean it seems like you are forced to do all the rooms now? I've done 20 runs and it keeps makin me go through all of them

brisk trail
#

nope, just RNG like usual

old quartz
#

^ Yup, just RNG

crisp flint
#

is there any way to "remove" a god from a run? I already took a demeter boon but now I'd rather get someone else in there, can I sell her boon to give the other god a chance to show up? What about trinkets, can i force them to show up that way even if i already have the max (which i think is 4?)

agile saddle
#

Pretty sure runs are random they just try to give you more of the same God so that you're not spread too thin and if you're trying to go for legendaries.

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There's no way to force anything in the game if that's what you're asking Like you can't make a God show up or make a certain thing to show up It's all RNG

crisp flint
#

well i mean you can force it with keepsakes, right? but i think there's a cap to the number of olympians you can see in a run, i didn't know if getting rid of a boon you already accepted from one would get rid of that or not

agile saddle
#

I mean sure but why waste a keepsake slot on a god keepsake?

hexed pilot
#

because it's sometimes more interesting than just continuing to use plume or feather every run

agile saddle
#

I run chaos egg for tartarus and sometimes Asphodel. Then I move on to bracer if I'm using a melee weapon or memory on a ranged

bitter valve
#

Using keepsake slots on gods is a very good option to round up your build

#

There is almost always an optimal boon for the direction you are going in

crisp flint
#

i mean for one thing artemis legendary for cast builds

bitter valve
#

I almost always use a god keepsake on asphodel

#

wait

#

no

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🤔

#

I almost always mix up asphodel and tartarus

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The 2nd zone

crisp flint
#

tart>asphodel>elysium

#

i do it too sometimes

bitter valve
#

I wonder why

primal whale
#

After I did a 32 heat on rail, it says I have bounties available at 0 heat on the rail

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And i've done the rail heats 0-20

gritty nimbus
#

Blessed the be thyne rail gun

primal whale
#

Well i was wondering if that was a bug

crisp flint
#

only thing i know if is you can't "skip" the 0 heat runs but if you already beat it all the way on 0 heat then i'm not sure

primal whale
#

Wow the final boss on zero heat with my broken build also managed to just hit me for like 200 damage in one it

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hit

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I must have been standing exactly on top of him or something when he did some move

gritty nimbus
#

That's all I needed to hear

#

I hate that move

hexed pilot
#

was it the laser one or something?

#

only other thing I can think of is you got hit while you had one of his bloodstones on you

gritty nimbus
#

Who knows. I wanna divine dash one of those rigt back ijnto his fface

primal whale
#

He had just transformed into the second stage and I dodged his initial ring of damage and then he just smacked me for big damage. It was honestly just an attack but maybe skull summon or something. Seemed like a gltich

hexed pilot
#

if you get hit by the spear thrust that also puts the skull out that could do it, but that wouldn't be 1 instance of 200 damage

gritty nimbus
#

Maybe enableable combat logs would help folk track down how replicate these beloved moments

primal whale
#

Due to the timing of it, it seemed like it wasn't supposed to happen

#

But maybe that's my thinking because it was the run to get the only bounty I didn't have on any given rail heat.... the final boss on 0 heat

#

Also, Eff 40 heat

brisk trail
#

I for the life of me cant beat he final boss with shield. Ive beaten the game on up to 5 heat on all the other infernal arms. But that darn shield.

primal whale
#

Leveling up the aspects helps a lot

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And abusing the fact you're invincible during bull rush

hexed pilot
#

yeah you'd be surprised just how much you're allowed to block with the shield

jade grove
#

Shield is the easiest, though, if you have an Aspect.

fair lance
#

If only the shield blocked consistently. I swear regular attacks hit me through the shield when I'm charging up sometimes

primal whale
#

I still haven't figured out the shield entirely, I'm more of a rail man

hexed pilot
#

mostly it comes down to spacing correctly, you can even block some of the AoEs

primal whale
#

They can hit you while charging the ability, if thats what you mean. I'm not positive you're 100% invulnerable while bull rushing but its def close

hexed pilot
#

but only if positioned and angled right

primal whale
#

For earlier heats, I'd recommend buffing up as much as you can. Dodge chance, damage reduction, hp and a invincible call

#

Get some attack and dash-attack damage and try and get extra dashes

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and you can just dance through the final boss

#

especially if you get athenas dash

#

that thing is nuts

#

I honestly didn't know bull rush made you invincible for the longest time and that's the way I got through a lot of the shields heat

hexed pilot
#

300% damage power shot bull rush with Aphrodite attack (highest dmg modifier) is pretty stupid

#

hit for like 500 and never take damage

primal whale
#

But to be fair, i did a lot of my heat pre-winter patch

crisp flint
#

just did my first tight deadline, didn't realize the extra time didn't carry over. had tons of time first 2 biomes, ran out of time as i got to theseus fight. any tips for faster elysium?

jade grove
#

avoid getting greedy and going for everything

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the rest is just a slightly unfair dps check not in your favor

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if you're struggling and your damage output isn't wiping the floor, avoid skull rooms, because the fewer bosses you have to screw with, the better

rapid nexus
#

Do we know what's going to be in the next update in like a month? Any hints given anywhere?

brisk trail
#

check the roadmap in-game! owoMilkCute

rapid nexus
#

Oh yeah I forgot about that! Thank you!

brisk trail
#

Ive made it to 9 heat with sword so its not the melee thats screwing me up. And it bothers me that i cant even do it once with shield. Ill just have to force a crit build on shield and hope i get the double strike hammer buff

mighty spear
#

I cant get past Meg. Help

amber ember
#

this has probably been asked a bunch of timesb efore but, do we know if there are any plans for a coop mode later on?

crisp flint
#

@mighty spear her scariest phase is near the end when she starts to bullet hell. block if you're using shield, deflect them if you have a deflect boon, otherwise get away and just dance until she's done doing that phase and then go back in to finish her off

terse delta
hexed smelt
#

@amber ember it's in #hades-faq and has been for a looong while: Hades is a single-player game. We have no plans to add multiplayer, as we have been building the design and narrative of Hades with a solo experience in mind.

terse delta
#

screw this silly-poo dumb-butt challenge

#

took me way more attempts than it should have

#

still BlobbleWobble

hexed pilot
#

Nice win

crimson void
#

Is there a way to force Thanatos? I have made 38 runs and not ever seen him except once, but my computer crashed during the encounter so it never went in the book or anything.

knotty epoch
#

@teal patrol your feedback has been addressed before. They'll add achievements and cards by the time early access is complete

teal patrol
#

ah cool

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thanks for the headsup :)

crimson void
#

Never mind, he finally spawned.

whole ocean
#

So I just now noticed that Achilles really doesn't like onions, lol.

soft sluice
#

Anyone know if Supergiant has plans to release sheet music for Hades? I'm trying to transcribe Good Riddance to sheet music but while I am sort of okay at playing guitar, transcription isn't a skill I'm practiced at and I'd rather throw money at SG for it 😹

raven pulsar
#

Heya, i just happened to notice, that if u throw your shield with the Dread Flight Upgrade (Your Special can strike up to 3 additional foes before returning), your Shield gets shorter throw range

#

wonder if its intended

sharp parcel
#

@soft sluice it might be best to contact them directly about something so specific.

solemn sleet
#

Does Guan Yu sing when using Lunar spin?

brisk trail
#

It plays a note, I don't think I hear any specific singing.

solemn sleet
#

Yes, it's interesting.

sharp parcel
#

the special also has a special sound effect

solemn sleet
#

ok

crisp flint
#

anybody have a good recommendation for a hades-like game other than the other supergiant games (played them all) and dead cells (waiting for the new DLC on tuesday)?

brisk trail
#

You looking for a roguelite or one that specifically is leveraging art and storytelling?

jade grove
#

Children of Morta

brisk trail
#

Because for raw gameplay Nuclear Throne is my next favorite roguelite after Hades, but it is a very different beast.

jade grove
#

Very similar. More... methodical pacing though.

crisp flint
#

i've been looking at children of morta, condiering it

#

i'll check out nuclear throne

jade grove
#

Can feel a bit sluggish after Hades

crisp flint
#

i'm interested both gameplay and the storytelling part too

jade grove
#

But it's a nice, very fun and beautiful action roguelite with solid progression and an endearing, if simple, story.

brisk trail
#

There is almost no story in NT, just a warning.

jade grove
#

Almost nothing comes up to the standard of this for sheer quality of writing, but Morta is just... feel-good

#

Progression and mechanics are similar to Hades but distinct, more directly RPGish elements

crisp flint
#

alright. i saw good reviews of morta and it's on sale so i was really close. i think i'll pull the trigger, thanks

#

i'll check out NT too though, thank you

jade grove
#

Just don't expect this kind of high speed constant action, heh

crisp flint
#

it's cool. i'm a fan of more methodical stuff too. slay the spire another of my favs

jade grove
#

Then you might enjoy it. I certainly do, but I haven't gone back in a while.

crimson void
#

Morta is alright. I can't make up my mind whether I like the artstyle or not. Dagger boy is fun.

#

Sunless sea has some roguelite elements if you play on Ironman and it is very story heavy.

crisp flint
#

i'll add it to my wishlist, thanks

#

huh there's a swearbot here. sunless sea looks awesome. thank you.

jade grove
#

sunless sea... love/hate sorta game

crimson void
#

Same

jade grove
#

some people fall madly for it, others find it the most boring thing in existence

#

skies is kinda the same

crimson void
#

I did both.

#

Skies is just barely a pass for me.

crisp flint
#

i'm okay with that. it's worth it to me if i find a game i obsess over if i have to go through a couple i don't care about

patent umbra
#

I love failbetter stories, I wish they wrote books

deep pivot
#

What’s this NT and Morta games you are talking about?

crimson void
#

I just wish the train handled better, tbh.

deep pivot
#

So I can check them out too 🙂

crimson void
#

Children of morta. Isometric beatemup

jade grove
#

Nuclear Throne, Children of Morta

brisk trail
#

Nuclear Throne, twinstick shooter roguelite.

jade grove
#

Also Binding of Isaac is still generally very good

#

Gungeon if you're feeling like a hardass

crimson void
#

Are they going to add more gods?

deep pivot
#

Ooh, I check them out if they are being recommended. Thanks! 😊

brisk trail
#

I don't think I care for Gungeon.

crisp flint
#

gungeon was... fine, IMO. spent a lot of time with isaac

jade grove
#

Yeah Gungeon is also... kinda divisive

#

I personally am not up for bullet hell levels of hard.

deep pivot
#

Binding of Issac is too grotesque for my liking 😅

brisk trail
#

technical issues have gone away so now i can actually play hoorah

jade grove
#

I personally like Risk of Rain a lot though.

brisk trail
#

I've put a lot of hours into Isaac but haven't played it in two or three years.

crimson void
#

Gungeon is brutal but it's hard done right

brisk trail
#

i don’t like gungeon much

#

dead cells however is like crack to me

jade grove
#

Done right for me is moderate, because I have poor reaction times and some muscle issues

brisk trail
#

I've been loving Dead Cells. I'm kicking myself I didn't get it or Hollow Knight earlier.

crimson void
#

I only say "that was BS" of I get a framedrop on gungeon

jade grove
#

Hollow Knight!

crimson void
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Oh, try sundered.

jade grove
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Hollow Knight is incredible, even if I can barely get through unmodded

brisk trail
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i got dead cels in early access but i didn’t get into hollow knight much

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I did. Couldn't get past the art.

crisp flint
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i played dead cells sso much in beta but haven'tt ouched it since official release so i'm waiting for the new DLC drop on tues, very excited

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hollow knight is amazing

jade grove
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Blasphemous is supposed to be a good time

brisk trail
crimson void
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True

jade grove
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Oh. Oh. Last one. This is really out there, niche rec, but Dungeon Munchies

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Short currently but really leverages charming aesthetic, fun story, customizability. Not really roguelite though.

brisk trail
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have they said when achievements will be coming

jade grove
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Post Early Access afaik

deep pivot
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Omg that name is adorable

brisk trail
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"A simple steamed fish is complete." She's holding a ham with a Flinstones bone that goes through it, and it's got the "You think people would just go on the internet and tell lies?" face.

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Alright, this banana screenshot has awakened something in me. Gonna have to unpack if it's good or bad.

jade grove
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Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well.

unborn spoke
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Meow

frigid kindle
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i got out of hades for the first time!!! wouhou!!

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after 52 tries LMAO

jade grove
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Grats

alpine mural
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ok so I just noticed (as I had felt but couldn't prove) that my in game sensitivity is MUCH lower than out of game. Meaning tabbed out I have my normal sensitivity and then when i tab in, instantly my sens is down by like half. Anyone have advice on how to fix this or should this be a bug report/feature request?

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Scratch what I said. After testing again and looking closer it seems less like my sensitivity went down and more like the game isn't registering mouse movements for fractions of a second. It is not my mouse as when i tab out movement is smooth as can be.

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it makes it feel like sens is slower because it isn't picking up all the movements

jade grove
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@alpine mural There's a setting that affects it negatively afaik

alpine mural
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"afaik"?

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whats the setting

jade grove
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Mouse lock

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As far as I know. I had to look it up again

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But mouse lock is a bit busted

alpine mural
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ok let me try it

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thats SOO much smother thank you so much

teal patrol
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@wintry bridge i asked about your suggestion earlier too and was met with "not really" but i get her legendary every run it seems

wintry bridge
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yeah, i think saying 3/4ths is already a pretty conservative guess on my part

coral axle
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that's just because she's new and she doesn't have that many boons

wintry bridge
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i usually get a chill boon just cause they're pretty useful and almost every run i get her legendary at some point

coral axle
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and also building it is pretty basic

narrow hemlock
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hm so out of curiosity where would be the most appropriate channel for reporting a grammatical dialogue error

hexed smelt
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f10 it ingame, like you would for a bug!

narrow hemlock
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OOF i forgot to do that when it happened but i can do it on another file

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it was something i encountered last night but i went to bed shortly afterward haha

quasi walrus
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Hol up, runs don't carry across to other computers? I'm a little confused about how save files transfer, anyone know about this?

brisk trail
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Epic cloud doesn't work yet, Steam's does.

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it’s pretty easy to manually transfer, they’re in Documents\Saved Games\Hades

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If you've got Hades on Epic (like I do) you'll have manually transfer files.

west chasm
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@brisk trail why tho

brisk trail
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Because for all of Epic's cash the EGS is still fairly young.

west chasm
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This is like changing the files to have your FOV at 110 kind of thing

sharp parcel
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we still have to do that sort of thing in 2020 games tho

brisk trail
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Cloud saves are being rolled out.

placid ibex
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the egs is not exactly young, it's just they take their sweet time on development :p

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also, what exactly does God Mode give?

brisk trail
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You become invincible normally, so you take no damage

sharp parcel
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GM gives you passive damage resistance, which goes up each time you die

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DR caps at 80% naturally

placid ibex
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ah, alrighty

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also i know it normally is invulnerability in games, jushuu, i just meant in Hades :p

brisk trail
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Yeah well I was also speaking about Hades

loud spire
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WTF I just saw a room I never saw before, it was a food symbol after I rerolled it from gems

brisk trail
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Placeholder if nothing else is available. Did you have three branches, with gems, Darkness, and Keys?

sharp parcel
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he probably means nectar

brisk trail
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Oh, right, forgot about Nectar.

sharp parcel
candid pine
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I'm weak. It's 11 30 pm and I feel like going to sleep.

placid ibex
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would be kind of surprising if they've never seen nectar and they can reroll the room rewards

sharp parcel
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the game doesn't really explain which rewards can be re-rolled into which

patent umbra
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I've seen food rarely as a reward from erebus exits

sharp parcel
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you only get "food" from Erebus if you lose

patent umbra
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not the onion, the rooms exiting erebus, burrito reward

sharp parcel
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there's no food room

patent umbra
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It does exist

brisk trail
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Like I said, it's a placeholder.

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It doesn't just show up in a run, but under certain circumstances you can force a food spawn.

sharp parcel
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is that specific to a version or something? I've literally never seen that in over 150 hours and have been playing since early January

brisk trail
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It is extremely rare.

sharp parcel
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there's nothing about this in either the wiki or the stickied message in gameplay

hexed smelt
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i've seen food as an exit option twice and i've been playing since the initial release - it's not in my room reward resource because i have no idea where, exactly, it can show up

sharp parcel
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is it a no encounter room, like the fountain?

patent umbra
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it acts like a regular room

solar patrol
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which would you say is a very fun duo boon to use?

sharp parcel
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I wonder why it doesn't show up in the normal pool then

hexed smelt
sharp parcel
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this is very old though

hexed smelt
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it sure is!

sharp parcel
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is this 2018?

hexed smelt
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i did say i've only seen it come up twice.

calm laurel
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hmmm

hexed smelt
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looking at the version number, that was the patch before high speed

solar heart
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Is it better to focus on getting one boon really via door rerolls and the like, or is it better to use those to get a diverse set of boons , in general?

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really strong*

loud spire
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yeah sorry, to continue from before, it was definitely a FOOD room and not a nectar room, rerolled from gems after being offered 3 paths: gems, darkness, key

patent umbra
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I brun rerolls on getting ambrosia for random poms

loud spire
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I didn't know food was even in the reward pool

hexed smelt
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poms will get less effective as the boon gets higher level

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personally, i use rerolls on darkness doors because i'd rather have literally any other option

solar heart
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Thanks for the insights.

loud spire
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will unhealthy fixation still one-shot me if I'm in the way? hobbS

flat vapor
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food probably got knocked out of the room pool with the addition of new resources, and probably some updating to the resource system behind the scenes

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i usually saw food after i did erebus, before the heat rework

sharp parcel
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@loud spire no, that's been fixed

loud spire
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oh thank god

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thanks

sharp parcel
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good news is, you can now one shot enemies with deflect!

loud spire
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hobbLUL me gusta

sharp parcel
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don't worry though, it'll be getting fixed soon, too

wispy lodge
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Just had a really nice run!

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Got all main boons heroic

solar heart
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Nice!

quartz estuary
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just realized the food icon is a gyro and not a taco

solar heart
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Is the last spear aspect worth the max health reduction? Sems a steep cost

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Seems*

quartz estuary
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it is worth it if you max it out

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at level 1 its horrible, you die in 1-2 hits and hearts only give you like 5 hp

solar heart
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Okay. Good to know!

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I like the spear more than the other weapons personally so I was curious is all

quartz estuary
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its really powerful, some same its the best weapon, i'd say that's still chaos shield but GY is really good

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its probably the strongest spear aspect atm. I still like the playstyle of Achilles spear more personally

solar heart
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I love the shield but Chaos Shield is something I struggle wioth a bit

quartz estuary
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what do you have a hard time with?

solar heart
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Can't figure out if I should try to get the Bull Rush charge up reduction to just spam multiple shields. I struggle to seem to get it off

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If I don't get that, but I usually end up spending all my rerolls tring to get a hammer

quartz estuary
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bull rush reduction hammer definitely helps but its not needed

solar heart
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Do you have to charge it up all the way to get the multi-shield proc?

quartz estuary
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no

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you can charge for half a second and it still works

solar heart
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So you just alternate between BR and Special until clear?

quartz estuary
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pretty much

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BR through enemies, turn around and fire off shields, repeat

solar heart
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Does it work well against Hades?

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I struggle against him with everything but the spear

quartz estuary
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yes, very well. you can hold BR down and block all his attack besides beam and the green urns that blow up

solar heart
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Noice

quartz estuary
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so, block his attack, BR through him, send shields, repeat

solar heart
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SO wortyh to max Chaos Shield to get the max additioonal procs?

quartz estuary
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absolutely

brisk trail
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you can also block beam

solar heart
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Thanks for the tips! Going to give that a whirl while I wait to get enough titans blood for maxing YG

quartz estuary
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good luck, and yeah you can block beam too

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my bad

strong karma
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How do you earn heat for skelly's rewards?

sharp parcel
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use the pact of punishment modifiers

patent umbra
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You must complete a run with the heat at the level shown

strong karma
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Do you get more heat as a reward if you add more than is required?

quartz estuary
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heat is not earned or rewarded, you decide how much heat you want to use before a run using the pact of punishment

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you need to beat hades once to unlock it

strong karma
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I have unlocked the pact of punishment and use it, so how do I earn the heat needed to unlock skelly's rewards? I have two of it but dont know how I got it

quartz estuary
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when you open the pact of punishment, you can pick which pact challenges you want to use on your run on the right side of the interface. each when you enable is worth a certain amount of heat (the number to the right of the description). for instance, the first rank of Hard Labor is worth 1 Heat. You need to enable enough Heat modifiers on your run to unlock skellys statues. i believe the first one is at Heat 8

strong karma
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got it, thanks

quartz estuary
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np

wise jasper
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any tips for finding thanatos?

quartz estuary
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like finding him during a run, or back at the house?

fresh tinsel
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anyone knows if this master piece will be on switch?

quartz estuary
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probably like 2 years after release lol

sharp sable
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yeah once its out of early access. Don't think nintendo allows early access titles.

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Unreal Engine can definitely port to switch though shouldn't be a problem

river sky
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is there an easy way to get to sisyphus? i want the companion

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or get to him frequently

brisk trail
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How are companions even unlocked?

river sky
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i think you need to give the npc alot of nectar

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until you can give them ambrosia

brisk trail
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So it's a relationship thing?

river sky
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believe so

brisk trail
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Ah, some of em seem to not be willing to accept stuff after a certain point tho

brave spade
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Games a roguelike guys you need to play more and grind for everything basically. Dont think theres an easy way to get him frequently

quartz estuary
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To unlock companions, you need to gift Meg/ Than/ Skelly/ Sisyphus/ Dusa Nectars every time you see them. After like 5-6 Nectars you will get a special dialogue with them, and some of them will give you a quest or special requirement. after you have completed the quest/ special dialogue they will start accepting Ambrosia and will not longer accept Nectar. The first Ambrosia will give you the companion

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there is no way to get to Sisyphus other than running into him in Tartarus during a run

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Meg and Than have no special requirements outside of dialogue. Skelly requires you to kill him with a fully upgraded Zag Aspect sword. Sisyphus requires you to speak to Meg/ Hades about his sentence and then buy out his contract from the House Contractor for 10 diamonds. Dusa requires you to improve the Lounge area at the House Contractor to a certain point

river sky
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10 diamonds???

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how do you even get another one after the first hydra kill

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@quartz estuary

quartz estuary
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you can get diamonds from completing some of the Prophesies at the Fated List of Minor Prophecies which you unlock at the House Contractor. it costs 20 Gems to unlock it and you may have to play a bit before it becomes an option. You also get Diamonds from every Hydra kill you do on a new Heat level. You can increase you Heat level using the Pact of Punishment which unlocks after you have defeated Hades once

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@river sky

river sky
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oh

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ok

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ty

quartz estuary
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Companions are really more of a late-game feature. I didn't get my Companions until I had cleared the game a number of times already

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np, good luck!

river sky
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ty

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should i trade in my ambrosia for titan blood bc im able to use that right now?

quartz estuary
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that depends on how many Companions you want to max out. it takes like 15 Ambrosia per companion to get it to level 5

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i probably traded like 5 total ambrosia for titans blood. its okay to do once in awhile

river sky
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o

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ill keep it for now then

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and i need 2 titan blood up upgrade the shield, so i couldnt upgrade it yet anyway

quartz estuary
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which shield aspect are you trying to upgrade?

river sky
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zeus

quartz estuary
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cool. i prefer Chaos aspect myself, but as long as youre not just upgrading the default one go with what you like

wispy lodge
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I haven't unlocked Zeus yet, but from the description it sounds more interesting

raven spindle
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zeus aspect is real fun as a way to mix up ur style

untold basin
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The cool thing about the Zeus shield is that you don't have to wait for your throws to return before blocking/attacking. The one good build I played with it I was just spamming attack+special on same press in enemies faces.

sharp sable
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zeus shield is cool if you can land it in the right spot it can be a constant damage spot

weak canyon
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I love this game!! I almost got all of the upgrades for sword and finished spear. I went for a full ares and artemis build and ended up melting the hydra and one of the fury's in under a few seconds

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and one of the weapon upgrades i used was that when i held my Attack+ spam special on spear i melted anything in my range.

sharp sable
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its a great game

weak canyon
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yeah

sharp sable
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i was worried i wouldnt like it as much compared to binding of isaac and dead cells

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but i think it hangs very well with them

weak canyon
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no joke i'm just waiting for a fight with scylla and her husband

sharp sable
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dont recognize that name

weak canyon
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scylla is a girl who was cursed by aphrodite, and her husband was left her under a huge rock

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she has several snake like heads

sharp sable
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ah medusa?

weak canyon
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no

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many depictions of scylla is that she is deep in the rock, and her snake like heads bear resemblance to dog faces

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and she'd kill anyone who go near her rock near today's greece

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i stopped following up on mythology, and i just laugh it off when other games fail to portray things not so accurate.

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like how zeus is literally the worst god to be worlds worst dad

calm laurel
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do you guys think the EotM portraits are foreshadowing love interests?

jade grove
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@weak canyon What do you mean about Zeus?

weak canyon
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Zeus made most of the greek pantheon

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and the fact that we got the good dionysis is amazing! Thank god we didn't get Pan, or the god of total madness dionysis. And in some folklore dionysis was told to be ruler of a part of the underworld

jade grove
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Well, I mean, Zeus was still a lecher who slept with basically everyone...

weak canyon
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agreed

jade grove
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Best at becoming a dad. One of the worst at being one.

weak canyon
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the most accurate line about a god ^^

jade grove
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Hera though... the only reason she isn't goddess of vengeance is that Nemesis got there first.

weak canyon
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yeah actually

jade grove
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God of total madness Dionysus... well, when you get all his boons and the festive fog duo stack, technically...

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Just saying. That stuff with all the extras... isn't exactly wine.

weak canyon
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yeah it's poison to anyone who can't stand it

jade grove
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When it's freezing cold and shoots lightning, it's a mad scientist's nightmare. Great stuff.

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SGG really did pretty good research overall though. But I mean, they dug up Zagreus from somewhere...

weak canyon
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imagine dionysis and hermes just getting stupidly drunk, and hermes is asking dionysis to rob a bank while hammered

jade grove
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You sure Hermes wouldn't be the one to go "hold my beer" and crash in?

weak canyon
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nope

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he'd actually do that, his coming up can explain why he wasn't immediately killed by zeus's main wife

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and why he can go into hell, and back without dying.

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I literally hope we see Vulcan, and all of his creations. And the first golem.