@opal lodge i should test it
#h1-discussion
static wadi
agile saddle
U can do each wep at 0 heat
For the items
Bow is easily a more advanced weapon cause it's stops u when attacking.
plucky shoal
i usually just pick whatever has the darkness bonus
plucky shoal
i deleted sorry
agile saddle
Make sure u are picking fated choices with hammers on weps so u can complete quests
Explosive shot with the bow is one of the best hammer upgrades. Bow is my main wep with Spear as my secondary
unborn olive
Hi everyone, finally got Hades.
I'm playing on KB+M, and feel that it's missing a key feature. Perhaps it was discussed before, or maybe already in plans for future updates.
Was there any mention from Supergiant about the alternate movement scheme?
So that WASD movement maps to isometric directions, rather than screen ones.
I was honestly surprised not to have this in options anywhere, as imo it's a must for such isometric gameplay, and easy to implement.
amber garden
You want D to move you down right for example?
unborn olive
Yes!
plucky shoal
there heat 1 bow done
proud orbit
sounds unintuitive, i can only imagine that being useful for isometric grid-style games
plucky shoal
ez pz
also artemis special, demeter attack that
time
@unborn olive you could probably do that with a steam controller
or something like joy2key
unborn olive
The isometric look (especially with how rooms are built) makes my brain expect exactly that. There are 4 major directions, to which walls/columns and the rest of the world aligns. The character is in that plane, so his direction should align with the world.
Would make easier to dodge around columns, too, if I had to press 1 button instead of holding WA, SD etc.
But maybe I'm the weird one, then. And yeah, that's how I played grid-based isometric games since forever.
I don't remember how Bastion played - perhaps I had to adapt there as well 🤔
Don't have a controller, will look into joy2key thing, thank you!
proud orbit
Bastion and Transistor played the same
white forge
You get a "companion" when you fill out someone's affection yeah?
proud orbit
But yeah joy2key might help and just bind D to D+S or something!
@white forge only for some characters
||Meg, Sisyphus, Dusa, Thanatos and Skelly currently||
flat vapor
when it goes down completely and flashes
white forge
there's a small splash, where it just doesn't go beneath, and a big splash where its completely submerged
hit it on the big one, yeah
flat vapor
(not when it flashes the prompt button)
if y'all have played animal crossing it's like that kind of fishing
arctic flint
surprisingly havent however mr guan yu gang, how do I get that aspect unlocked?
flat vapor
achilles will have a conversation for you after you have, according to the patch notes, "several aspects unlocked"
the speech bubble will be bigger than normal ones (it's the same one nyx has when she unlocks the mirror for you)
personally, i already had all the aspects unlocked, so i can't tell you exactly what several aspects mean
random lion
I got it after having like two other aspects honestly so not many
split mauve
random lion
Without like.. mad spoilers (if any?) do the companions matter? Like,, what do they do and are they different from eachother? I know who to get them from, just not sure which to do
vocal thorn
They can help up to 5 times per game, though you might have to play the game for a while before that happens
If you don't want spoilers, you might eventually find one or two by accident, though it might take a couple months to accidently stumble upon them
flat vapor
they're activatable keepsakes, basically, that do various different things for you
grizzled verge
Had any suggestions put out there about keeping heat settings for each weapon separate, i hate doing a high heat run on bow then having to redo all the settings for a dif weapon
flat vapor
some do damage, some are supportive
though i can say that each companion is noticeably different from each other, gameplay-wise
hot rivet
We need a space marine zagreus skin to go with adamant rail.... also I was wondering why sometimes mobs drop gold, other times (like chests or survival rooms) they don't
The price jacking wouldn't have been too bad if those mobs gave gold
modern garnet
Isn't it the pillars that drop the gold?
prime hill
i would assume spoilers for boss fights, not sure though
proud orbit
Only the final boss is considered a spoiler
But if you're spoiling story elements go to spoiler anyway
I'm not sure what you intend to post
mental sleet
the boss itself wont be named
basically the first time the odds have stacked for me this much
prime hill
I havent reached the boss I think, is he/she/it actually named?
mental sleet
so
prime hill
or just called Final Boss
mental sleet
that is spoiler
prime hill
figured
modern garnet
Or "da final boss" for short
mental sleet
ah well just realized I cant post pics in this channel anyway
prime hill
Can we all agree that Cerberus is best boi though
proud orbit
thats not hermes
mental sleet
ceberus the heck doggo
white forge
WAT
mental sleet
also it is a matter of time before that joke about Hermes' speed is made so I have to assume it is already made
prime hill
Ares and Wine man are fun though
modern garnet
Hermes is just scout from tf2
white forge
Hermes has awesome boons
@modern garnet What have you DONE?
I can't unsee that now
mental sleet
Bonk
modern garnet
BONK
white forge
But its so true
proud orbit
PLAY BALL
white forge
well, he's a non-annoying scout
prime hill
Replace hermes voice actor with scout's please
white forge
im a freakin' blur here
prime hill
quick, tell supergiant.
mental sleet
Athena is Engineer
proud orbit
I'm runnin circles around ya
white forge
I'm runnin circles around ya
prime hill
amazing
proud orbit
AAAA FIRE FIRE FIRE FIRE
steep robin
You see this? I’m a force of nature
white forge
I got it I got it I got it
white forge
uh huh
mental sleet
hermes is kinda generally useful boons
white forge
Extra dashes make hades sooo much easier, because you now have enough to easily get out of range of his swings
mental sleet
as it it's always good, but there's not really many game breaking builds with them
white forge
i often buy hermes boons in styx just for the chance of that one
modern garnet
5 dashes is a good number of dashes
mental sleet
yeah dash is super though
proud orbit
I think this is all the Olympians they plan to add @prime hill
white forge
and extra speed for attack/special is nice if that's your build
proud orbit
Drift Dash is my favourite Hermes boon
steep robin
persephone
mental sleet
DEJA VU
prime hill
Also can't wait for the final boss lmao
white forge
although the extra cast speed and casts drop faster feel really underwhelming
proud orbit
@mental sleet did you see my video lol
white forge
It's a little unbalanced
fast minnow
i feel like they could fit in another god or two without it feeling bloated tbh
mental sleet
I did not
proud orbit
It's pinned in #h1-builds-and-combat
prime hill
Nice pfp @fast minnow
white forge
Drift dash is... extra speed after dashing?
fast minnow
thank you
prime hill
Such a happy boi
prime hill
he obviously is
white forge
Because Discord rules say you gotta be old enough
prime hill
uho
oak knot
drift dash for hydra 
white forge
N Y O O M
modern garnet
Turns you into rukey
proud orbit
mental sleet
would change a few thing if it were up to me to edit the video
but good nonetheless
fast minnow
woof
mental sleet
oh noes
white forge
Bork?
mental sleet
probably could do pause + quick zoom on the perk itself, highlighting the extra movespeed bonus
yeah thats kinda it
can have the music to only start then
proud orbit
tru
mental sleet
damn im gonna lose
I took the spear with the shorter dash distance
and now I cannot dodge
proud orbit
serrated edge is neat tho
modern garnet
Bet you wish you had 5 dashes right now
oak knot
3 hits on dash? that upgrade is the best
modern garnet
Better than one ig
fast minnow
i thought it was two
oak knot
2 is for the sword
fast minnow
ah my b
mental sleet
yes but facing da boss 1 extra hit and no dodge (on 3 dash) and I cannot dodge along side doing damage
his aoe swipe is massive
I managed with the shield to do 3/4, counting his extra health, with only 2 defiance
proud orbit
might as well talk in gameplay if you want to discuss the final baws
mental sleet
sorry
proud orbit
but tomorrow could be 
white forge
^
Ok, I'm ACTUALLY gonna sleep now, cause I have to get up in about 4 hours
so goodnight
love y'all
proud orbit
have a nice sleepy sleep
white forge
gonna cast chill on myself
agile saddle
Charm is completely busted wtf
rotund finch
did it always cost 3 Ambrosia to gift someone?
OH WOW that was a bug.. XD my forced overtime was set to 100% after the update... no wonder that last run seemed harder...
I just reset it now
but wow
yeah attacks were almost instant
Especially the final bosses spin attacks, as soon as the warning showed up he used them, and just in general I couldn't do anything basically
agile saddle
U can dash through his spin attack and not get hit
rotund finch
doing another run now at the new cap of 40% and yeah... that was a lot faster
I couldnt really react fast enough to time it, it was too fast lol
agile saddle
Ahh
prime hill
is it ||Hades|| lol
proud orbit
||it would seem so huh!||
prime hill
i shall try
woeful summit
you got this!
hardy scarab
Hey devs i have a few comments from a dev perspective in game play. Like I get that the bow is meant to have an attack that charges and then shoots for power shots, but then if u have charion asspect u can't even break through the shield wielding guys in elysium or thesius unless u get really lucky in boons since the hammer doesn't allow u get get piercing. which makes the bow a liability late game unless ur lucky. And then theres the fact the bow doesn't have an attack on instant light tap, it makes dealing damage in a pinch or geting behind someone very difficut to "get around" the frontal shield. I feel the bow should should have a tap attack that is weak like 10 dmg and doesn't go that far maybe even melee, but then if u charge it it has normal bow shenanegans.
Then theres chaos boons. Like they're good personally some what... but they all reinforce base damage without adding any flair. I get it's chaotic cause u have to suffer first then ur get rewarded, but that screams more hades or even furries rather than chaotic. I think that chaos should also add elemental dmg and their various status effect as well that stack with ur other boons, but weaker or more chaotic in damage or something. Like chaos i feel as a character is amazing, as a gameplay mechanic meh unless u are tyring to get the ones where you get more items. Like buff chaos somewhat to be more "chaotic"; after all, its the primordial originator of all things.
Then theirs gift giving... i was flooding charon with gifts cause logically i figured they'd eventually in some fashion offer me a discount. Same with the Eurdicye where i wanted her to give me more food or something... or maybe it one portion for now and another in 10 enounters as left overs etc. I just feel like for a single player game, its awefully over balanced, when the best part of the game is having all these boons mix and match and cause lots of death and chaos on screen.
random lion
Obviously the game is still a WIP but I think it would be super cool to have some benefits like discounts or extra potion options through gifting and the like
hallow cargo
your mini-essay would be better placed in the #hades-feedback channel @hardy scarab, although the devs aren't really interested in such major changes at the moment
and the time has likely passed
but it's awesome to see that you're interested enough in the game to be passionate about its development
polar elbow
is there a log in the game to review conversations/is that a planned feature down the line? sorry if this has been asked before I'm new to interacting with the community and stuff
random lion
You can check the patch notes and such but to my knowledge I think that’s it? I know there’s a screen when you finish the story mission explaining some of the things they have planned
rugged frost
I believe if you click the major update button on the main menu it tells you some of the stuff coming in the next updaye
void nova
You guys
Fffffffff
I literally just accidentally forfeited the run during the final boss fight
This is also at least the third time I've done this, though never during the final battle until this time
I am butt hurt
I wish there was a way for me to not have lost all my progress from that
What a waste 😒
Now my hands/arms hurt and I didn't even get my titan blood lol
Spent nearly two hours on this one two cuz I was pausing off and on to chat with the fam, in fact that's what happened, I paused to chat for a sec, then went to start back up but accidentally pushed buttons in the wrong order and boop.
Stupid :[
Oh well
Feeling down about myself temporarily but .... At least I left the house in a cute outfit today lol, so I can be proud of myself too 😅
Blaaah anyway /vent, but really though is there an alternate saving philosophy anyone can think of that preserves the whole permadeath thing but doesn't make it quite as easy to wipe out progress? I've lost runs to crashes before too
unborn spoke
oopsie
night turret
There is atleast 6 runs in the past mounth that were canceled outright at least an hour in, because I suddenly do a -300 iq move.
void nova
At least I'm not alone lol 💜 tho, sorry for your loss 😅💜💜
unborn spoke
i botch alot myself.
sharp parcel
but dashing into last boss' vase is a 400 IQ move 
night turret
Sometimes, I think "Let's get together with Dio for this run!" and just stroll by the keepsakes not changing anything
Realising what I've done only after Furies are sent home.
empty ferry
i mean you can still change keepsakes then
its how i chase my fated list duos: use one god keepsake in tartarus, use another in asphodel
agile saddle
why is getting Dio legendary way harder the Athena and Aphro?
like u need a ton of boons from him
seems kind of unbalanced when Ath and Aphro its reasonable
agile saddle
looking at the wiki it seems like u need more
brisk trail
That's outdated.
agile saddle
ohh ok phew
brisk trail
People were (rightfully) up in arms about it, so now it's just a Hangover source and Trippy Shot.
agile saddle
sweet
well it made no sense to make his so much harder
when Aphro's charm is completely busted
sharp parcel
@empty ferry if you wanna do the keepsakes prophecy you could just ||equip all of em in the courtyard, that counts||
empty ferry
no, i meant duo boons
sharp parcel
ah
agile saddle
duo boons is a long one for sure
winter cape
@sharp parcel what's the condition to trigger medusa keep sake?
sharp parcel
@winter cape keep talking to her, then she'll give you a quest to ||repair the lounge, so you just buy some cheap lounge renovations and a bed for the dog||
winter cape
I've been talking to her for a while, still no other response
I think there's a hidden trigger
For skelly its to defeat him with maxed Zag aspect sword
empty ferry
thats not hidden
winter cape
For Meg it's to defeat her with all the sisters
empty ferry
thats the quest that skelly tells you about explicitly
dusa has the same kind
keep giving her nectar
autumn pagoda
One narrator line sounds different about "Fancy Recliner (bedroom)". Other actor l guess?
sick gyro
sharp parcel
can't progress further
it'll be added as the game develops
@autumn pagoda nah, just recorded at a different time
frail remnant
does charges of death defiance at the mirror deplete themselves? like if i die would i have to re-purchase that upgrade or is it just a run by run basis
sharp parcel
you start every run with that amount
sharp parcel
mirror upgrades are permanent
frail remnant
good to know
sharp parcel
but you can tweak up and down as you please
sharp parcel
there is a pact modifier that limits the amount of darkness you can have in your mirror
if you want an extra challenge
merry narwhal
Honestly it'd be nice to have 'Mirror Sets' so like, A B & C.
So you could have one set for no limit. One set for a level of limit and another for max limit.
And not have to manually change them. :x
sharp parcel
eh, I suppose
but once you try playing with the mirror limiter, you'll never want to turn it on again
that's my experience, at least
merry narwhal
I can imagine.
main venture
I wonder what legends they'll choose for the other weapons final aspect 👀
sharp parcel
John Rambo for the rail
King Arthur for the sword
probably some Babylonian or Mesopotamian for the bow, no idea about the shield
could be someone northern european, a viking
oak knot
the shield is clearly tower knight from demon's soul
gentle plinth
How do you think the gameplay will look like? I mean after beating the hades floor, are players gonna fight some famous humans still alive? Or like modern one or some other kind of thing
Or maybe past the mortal world some plot twist will happen, like gods kidnapping persephone and zagreus discovering his godly aspect (for example zeus with thunders) will stand against them with the help of important ones from hades?
Like total 180, boons from charon like death bonus, achilles + strenght etc
And boons related to that, is my idea any good or impossible, what do you think?
empty ferry
There is nothing planned after the final boss
sharp parcel
I think there will be a playable sequence, you just walk and talk
and then it sort of ends
this is falling into #h1-story-discussion
gentle plinth
Anyways you know what i mean
mild kettle
hi, are there any achievements planned in the game in steam?
oak knot
they plan to add achievements after early access phase for now
white forge
noice
empty ferry
*by the time early access ends
cosmic heart
Well, when the remaster of a game(from AAA) are worse then early access of the indie game 🤣 (F for WarCraft3 and Blizzard company)
Huge love to Supergiant Games and Darren Korb Personally 
💞
stoic quail
I'm surprised that people are surprised. AAA games are just corporate machines, there's no love in it. If you want the real good games always go for small company or indie devs.
cosmic heart
Also Guys or @tacit lodge @vale drift
About Demeter, please someone confirm that she will change outlook from season to season with effects of boons ? Like Winter, Spring,Summer, Autumn themed boons and looks. It will be outstandingly good
tawny patio
that would be too much dev work for just one god I guess
night turret
Imagine making powers for a god every season, and then fix bugs every season?
sterile light
well
cosmic heart
I thinking about it like creating each season hardcoded bundle with effects and outlook and make d script that will check date and depending on that change goddess outlook and boons
And this goddess is deserving that, She is goddess of seasons cmon ) Its not a lightning Zeus or Ares )
empty ferry
theres a story reason why she will always be how she is now
and that reason closely matches her myth
cosmic heart
@empty ferry oh then I will have my eye on it, thanks!
sterile light
and as long as zag can't leave I don't see how things will change lol
stoic quail
Studying classics at school was spoilers for me.. 😆
Incase the rest of the world outside England doesn't call it the same, classics meaning Latin and Ancient Greek
dapper flume
We learned roman and greek in my electives.
So every test you had to write Mars and Ares
sharp moth
does anyone know are at least some of the upcoming™️ achievements gonna be retroactive? or is it clean slate?
as in, when the achievements are released, will i have some of them completed as long as i have already achieved them as long as i trigger the check for them? or do i have to do everything from the start to get any achievements? 
sharp parcel
the achievements will probably mirror the prophecies from the fated list
white forge
yeah
sharp moth
that's reassuring to hear
white forge
Some can probably be done retro, like beating a certain number of runs/bosses, or in a certain time
but some might be you have to do it in a run
like beat a floor/boss hitless
sharp parcel
yeah, all of that stuff is stored in the save already
sharp moth
okay cool, i'll take your word for it
white forge
noice
ocean kayak
me, when playing hades home alone in the early morning: splitting bolt and unhealthy fixation
me, playing hades after work while streaming for friends: most crap gamer ever
trim surge
just got a run with:
Eris rail (+60%)
Rocket bomb
Cluster bomb (x5)
Heroic Aphrodite special (+297%)
+14% damage on weak (aphrodite)
+10% damage on everything (ares)
Athena call
just hugged bosses and right clicked, they died instantly
sharp parcel
@trim surge how did cluster work with rocket? just 5 rockets?
oak spear
Had a hilarious run myself last night:
Nemesis sword
Athena attack and dash
Demeter special
Zeus call w/jolted boon
Tipsy shot cast with damage resist while in the fog, Demeter-dio duo, and Zeus-dio duo
World splitter and double dash hammers, plus some chaos boons I don’t remember right now
Nothing hit me and everything just melted as I dashed around spamming attack and tossing out fields of death
Oh, and the Demeter boon for increased damage done and decreased damage taken while empty on bloodstones
amber garden
Is it decreases damage taken on that boon? I must be misreading it =\
proud orbit
"take 10% less damage and deal more."
vale kite
when you're out of cast you take less damage and deal more
sharp parcel
it decreases the damage you take and increases the damage you deal
proud orbit
Where are you misreading it
sharp parcel
damage reduction is the same regardless of rarity, but damage bonus increases with rarity
errant pond
I love the no ammo damage buff boon from Dem
On Hera bow it kicks in as soon as you fully load your next shot
hexed smelt
well, yeah, because it depletes your ammo
errant pond
Aye, but it's something that might not be immediately obvious to people
white forge
such insane boss damage
main venture
It's as strong as Aphrodite, but also useful for non bosses :p
white forge
whew
Keeping the streak going
I have no clue how I'm doing thisa
I like the sense of victory after killing hades
white forge
In most roguelikes, it's just a you win stats page and you're back at the main menu
but here, hades is super salty
main venture
And yes, defeating Hades is glorious
main venture
And 70% sass? :p
main venture
His tone of voice after some wins is hilarious
white forge
Yeah, zag is super likeable
main venture
"Look who has come back, everyone!"
hexed smelt
guys, final boss discussio needs to go under spoiler tags or in #h1-story-discussion or #h1-builds-and-combat depending on whether it's more story or gameplay related
white forge
oh. apologies
queen thistle
so does the convenience fee in pact of punishment not affect the diamonds or titan bloods sold by Charon?
white forge
there was something about it in a patch, i dont think it does
white forge
"Convenience Fee: no longer raises cost of Bounty resources sold in Charon's shop in Styx"
It was just that it was 10 gems for a key, which is just the reverse of a key for 10 gems
main venture
I tend to get a lot of keys with the contractor upgrade :p
So I just swap for other stuff since I have everything unlocked by now.
trim surge
bounty resources what does that mean
sharp parcel
@trim surge diamond/blood available in the final biome's shop
their price used to increase with the Fee modifier turned on
sharp parcel
I thought so, but then they remove the mirror limiter from hell mode
and now I need all the darkness in the world to max out Fated Authority
solemn seal
What encounter mean?
1 room , 1 run , or 1 enemey ?
cerulean iris
1 combat room
amber garden
As a result, Styx is very good for levelling trinkets
Of course, you have to get to Styx first lol
Well items however are worse because of that.
gleaming gale
what exactly does godmode change anyway?
flat vapor
you gain a certain percent of damage resistance with each run
caps at like 80%? it’s a very small increase each time
low cloak
Hello! I had a question about the final boss fight. Would this be the appropriate location?
ivory remnant
2% each time, caps at 80%
low cloak
Just curious if I found a bug or just somehow had an utterly broken run that destroyed the final boss
cerulean iris
vocal thorn
Yeah, I thought I never needed to worry about darkness anymore, but here we are
Probably going to take months to get a decent amount of darkness, because I can’t do treasure troves with tight deadline active
ocean kayak
No no no no no
I'm gonna miss the supergiant asks
Damn this 10-4 job
chilly stump
Sorry Grimm! If it helps, we've had users in the past drop questions in the chat for each other.
brisk trail
Hey I got a question, how do I unlock the Rod of Fishing?>
edgy pecan
you buy it at the renovator
sharp parcel
1 diamond
edgy pecan
p cheap
crisp token
i had so many questions but now theres a chance to actually ask them i cant think of any good ones
sand stump
just copy and paste them alllll
quasi sleet
they've been pretty great about answering stuff in the past
quasi sleet
that would be kinda weird but if its straight up not there, then yeah probably
not sure what else could trigger it
you checked all the tabs and scrolled down?
quasi sleet
guess its final boss time then
brisk trail
TIME TO GET GIT GUD THEN lol
edgy pecan
guess it's daddy time then
quasi sleet
love it when you call him big papa
brisk trail
lol
radiant tangle
||Final boss identity is considered spoilers for the purposes of this channel||
quasi sleet
||its kinda weird that its a spoiler, because its not like its a twist or a surprise ||
||but ill try to be a little more vague||
cloud belfry
I'm not gonna be there for the q/a but I really wanna ask if Hypnos is getting anything in the next update
quasi sleet
god bless whoever updates the wiki, love seeing demeter all done
prime hill
Mfw I gotta miss q/a for a test
edgy pecan
mfw i be missin the qna because timezones exist
lusty stump
Honestly I wonder, can we pass on questions from others?
lusty stump
If so maybe I can help out on that since I myself have no questions lol.
lusty stump
well same lol, then suppose will pass on what Cheesy wanted to ask.
static wadi
hello everyone
sleek obsidian
Tryna think of a question
static wadi
do we have q&a 30 minits later?
sleek obsidian
Yeah
static wadi
good
sleek obsidian
10 minutes to ask whatever
static wadi
where can i ask?
haughty raptor
aaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i has a question
sleek obsidian
static wadi
it will be opened?
teal patrol
what gods work good with Chiron special, i did a dion run already, maybe arti or zues?
cursive kraken
i find the rail gun best weapon
teal patrol
I hate rail
brisk trail
It’s aboht it really lol
static wadi
@teal patrol Dio and stacking ares
sleek obsidian
Beat the game for the first time with the rail gun. Want the shield or spear for it next
unborn spoke
i still can't beat this game with the rail 😦
brisk trail
Like outside of artemis and dio chiron special is kinda wasted
cursive kraken
have you max your stats
sleek obsidian
Maybe if there was some way to prolong the Chiron autoaim
sleek obsidian
I typically use the lob on the rail. In the run where I cleared it I had Zeus attack with jolted which helped a lot and also the cast recall on wide enemy sucking blade rifts
Which was handy
teal patrol
also anyone else finding new dio dash to be really really good
sharp parcel
they buffed dashes across the board, which is nice
haughty raptor
sharp parcel
I just wish they worked a bit different, affecting enemies at the start and end of the dash
patent umbra
It does a lot less damage than the last iteration of nasty dash.
gleaming gale
Hm so basically in godmode, if you die a buncha times, you slowly gain damage resist buffs till they cap at a whopping 80% eh?
Do you start at zero?
teal patrol
10% i think
quasi sleet
love the rail, once I figured out how to reload while firing the special it felt way smoother
though I have heard that the rail is harder on gamepad because of aiming the special
static wadi
typing intesifies lol
oak spear
i'm sure it's easier on kbm but i've had no issue aiming the special, as long as i'm not moving it from like... one end of the screen to the other, in which case you should just turn around first instead lol
sand stump
1 minute and almost a hundred question
raw swan
They didnt put slowmode on rip them
quasi sleet
is this the first Q&A since steam release?
split crescent
So I kinda noticed something about Dionysus
mortal ivy
The last one was in December iirc. No idea if it was before or after the steam release though
static wadi
he noticed but he wont tell you!
tiny bobcat
They are not going to answer all of them right?
mortal ivy
There are too many questions for that
static wadi
who knows
split crescent
Dangit, can't really show it so I guess I'll just say it
static wadi
why cant u
split crescent
Dionysus has the same hair as Rarity from My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic
lime needle
bro...
cloud belfry
Bro...
mortal ivy
Great observation /I mean Bro...
split crescent
Bro what? Ellipses are meaningless, use your words
mint anchor
mortal ivy
Just how many questions are there... chat went so fast 
tropic lodge
better luck next time yeah ///
hexed smelt
a looooot of the questions are either in the FAQ or can be answered through playing the game more
heady heron
whats the general opinion on crystal clarity
urban zephyr
I kinda want to read a Hades comic.
heady heron
im having a lot of fun with it
wooden flame
My guy he is trying to get out from the under world
I don't think he likes the under world that much
brisk trail
Are they gonna stream to answer the questions?
wooden flame
No they are already answering them on that channel
lime kernel
No invicibility frame when die on nova to provent death on second time on it on hades boss ?
quasi sleet
supergiant is really suffering from success with all these questions
glad the steam release was so successful but now they get to pay for it lol
brisk trail
here I thought my question would be glossed over lol
sleek obsidian
I need some Hades merch other than the 10 anni poster and the logo shirt omg, this game makes me giddy inside
solemn seal
I was thinking that maybe when the game relesed we will get a character DLC
but after playing the game for so long I think it will be hard to do
The main character have a lot of animation to him for all the boons and other things making another character will be like making another game
brisk trail
i just know there's going to be at the very least an unofficial thanatos body pillow on redbubble or something
sleek obsidian
Bouldy plushie
cerulean iris
their previous games haven't had dlc, just stuff like an extra song at most. but who knows with this one 👀
brisk trail
Bouldy yoga ball
sharp parcel
but a static one, like Sisyphus or Patroclus, with just some voice lines?
sleek obsidian
Bouldy yoga ball that you can roll up a mountain
sharp parcel
caaaaan doo!
oak spear
The companion keepsakes as plushies
sharp parcel
makes perfect sense
brisk trail
Hades ring tone telling you you're a disappointment
mystic anchor
Bouldy with a string to pull to play their voice lines
sleek obsidian
Hades alarm telling you you're late
sharp parcel
a round pillow, with a for a fece
mild root
So uuuuh, i got a Heroic Aphrodite Special with lvl 9 on it...
sharp parcel
so you could nap on
sleek obsidian
Pillow embroidery with quotes from the game
Like you believe in Bouldy and Bouldy believes in you
sharp parcel
@mild root you can go above 10!
oak spear
Pillows embroidered with Charon quotes
sleek obsidian
YES
brisk trail
build a bear skelly that says "boy'o!" when you squeeze him
mild root
I know, but lvl 9 yielded me 304% already
mild root
Which it was
sharp parcel
understanda 🅱️ le
sleek obsidian
Fake fruit bowl with Poms and darkness shards and other resources
mild root
sharp parcel
Darkness/blood shard as a key thing
sleek obsidian
Oooo
brisk trail
Supergiant Games(TM) sends you a bowl of pomegranates.
oak spear
Stygian blade flash drive to go with my transistor flash drive
raven spindle
shield of chaos frisbee
brisk trail
but not as disappointing as 76 nuka cola was
sleek obsidian
Yes
raven spindle
ooo ring too
raven spindle
YES
brisk trail
buy a phone call with Chris Saphire(tm)
sleek obsidian
Who?
brisk trail
Thanatos voice actor
sleek obsidian
Yes
raven spindle
😳
sleek obsidian
Mirror styled like Nyx's
Honestly I'd be cool with a paper weight that looks like the little skulls
Like the ones with the rubies in their eyes
Gimme Hades merch
raven spindle
Cerberus plushie is where all the money is at
sleek obsidian
Absolutely
raven spindle
ooo the keepsake plushies would be cute too
raven spindle
lol yeah
brisk trail
Hypnos sleep mask
sleek obsidian
YEAH
raven spindle
oh that’s genius
brisk trail
Webkinz... I had 267 as a kid.. lol
sleek obsidian
I had 2
sleek obsidian
A huskie and a Dora fish
brisk trail
I was a very demanding child
sleek obsidian
Nice
brisk trail
But if they did sell physical merch like a Cerberus webkinz, it could have a code for like.. resources? Like diamonds and all that? idk
raven spindle
maybe a small dlc thing like a cosmetic
sleek obsidian
What accessories could we get from baby Broseph Achilles?
brisk trail
hades dating sim
sleek obsidian
Yo yes
brisk trail
dlc more conversations and dates
raven spindle
god yeah
sleek obsidian
Ares too
raven spindle
can we link here? saw some gorgeous dio fan art today
sleek obsidian
I think so
lime needle
aphrodite call me please
sleek obsidian
That looks straight up official my God
minor igloo
instant reblog
brisk trail
I saw that on twitter! I almost thought it was official too
void nova
wait the long winter udpate dev stream isn't going to be posted ever??? arghh they answered the question i asked and i missed it and was going to go check it in the stream 😭
does anyone remember what they said about survival/endless mode?
unborn spoke
scroll up
unborn spoke
yes dear scroll up to see your question answered
in the chat
you can't talk in it right now but you CAN see what was said
unique river
I think we're gonna need a crail emote after today's q&a
unborn spoke
o yeh
void nova
sorry, i meant, i asked a question during the dev stream and they answered it during the stream but i missed it, and now that they said they aren't going to post the stream i'm still in the dark lol. just wondering if anyone remembers what they said about survival/endless mode during the dev stream for this update?
elfin haven
hey guys I need help. I got a duel screen but when i launch hades, my right screen clips flickering black to normal screen and hades lags big time. Anyone know how this happens?
unique river
Frick, I remember them mentioning an endless mode in the last devstream, but I have no idea what they said exactly
warm surge
im so glad to have been responsible for a bunch of text emote replies
whoever added the "O" after my "OCEANMANG" is a hero
mortal ivy
🌊 🥭
void nova
ahhh damn they didn't answer it in this Q&A either even though i'm pretty sure someone asked about it
😭
can't believe i missed it
alpine stratus
ocean mango....teach me how to tango
void nova
i was so sure they were gonna just upload the stream like usual and it was gonna be fine
warm surge
that we under...stango?
void nova
i missed a lot actually and wanted to rewatch it
lime needle
thanks for answering most of those questions guys!!! ALSO I HOPE YOU SAW MY ADDON OF DRINKING ENOUGH WATER AND TAKING BREAKS
warm surge
reactions need more 🇰 🇴 🇷 🇪
safe sand
They did not answer my question about the location, although I asked him one of the first (((
latent light
Im not sure if its been answered before, but are the Hades devs okay with being a little less realistic to lore for the sake of the story? Like not staying true to greek mythology for the sake of the game?
warm surge
i mean considering it's still winter on the surface but persephone isn't in the underworld
i assume so
also @chilly stump we love you!
chilly stump
Hey @latent light, we have! Our general approach to Hades is with the perspective that a lot of mythology retells stories differently, and that mythology has been interpreted countless ways over time. Our Hades is just another interpretation of mythology in line with that tradition. 😄
And thank you Fel!!! 
warm surge
if you happen to know ashley please tell her i am desperately envious of her voice
chilly stump
I'll let her know next time!! It can be a message from both of us. 😄
warm surge
inland shell
@chilly stump Thanks for the QA! I really wanted to know if any of you read The Song of Achilles?
warm surge
endless + hermes = 
void nova
haha true, i feel like it'd have to have a cap or something
warm surge
also following up with that, @inland shell, a webcomic called Lore Olympus?
void nova
or diminishing returns
chilly stump
We have! If you search "Song of Achilles" in the ask-supergiant channel you'll probably even find Greg's answer about it!
warm surge
Lore Olympus made me hate apollo :P
inland shell
For anyone curious:
Greg05/17/2019
@cedar hinge 'Did the Song of Achilles by Madeline Miller play any role in how Achilles and ||Patroclus ||'s relationship was written?'
I read The Song of Achilles during development and really enjoyed it. Achilles and the setup for his storyline were already in our game at that point, as I have a long-standing fascination with The Iliad and Achilles -- let's just say this was not the first time I tried to get a character based on Achilles in a game. Though I think The Song of Achilles did reinforce to me that my reading of Achilles' relationship, and I was glad to experience some of the surprises in the book since I had a sense of how the story would end. Anyway I have nothing but praise for Miller's sharp prose and her ability to conflate the natural and supernatural in such a believable way. Some of the side characters in the book were really excellent, such as Thetis and Chiron.
vocal thorn
I mean like, The Iliad could have been enough inspiration by itself.
opaque nexus
I was in school for the q&a did anyone ask the devs what their favorite aspects in hades were
lusty stump
kind of but not really. was asked what's their least favourite aspect was and what's their work on making the aspects be well different themselves.
opaque nexus
Did they answer any
shrewd blade
guys what is due boon and how can i get it ?
opaque nexus
@lusty stump
lusty stump
opaque nexus
Yeah I had a feeling they would mention zagreus spear
lusty stump
https://discordapp.com/channels/456889434672201729/477164376496013323/672867558608732161 and another regarding future aspects
opaque nexus
Sword better be something medieval
Rambo aspect for gun kek
Ok rail 4th aspect better be something American
bold sluice
colonel colt aspect
opaque nexus
I’m assuming each of them are gonna be from different regions
Sword = Medieval Europe
Rail = ‘MURICA
Bow = ???
Shield = ???
bold sluice
i'm interested if any weapon can be tied to slavic culture (me being a slav)
maybe it's for the 6th weapon
bold sluice
like a huge axe
opaque nexus
I feel like final weapon is gonna be pure melee
So we have 2 of each weapon type
2 pure melee, 2 hybrid and 2 pure ranged
bold sluice
just get a hammer xD
opaque nexus
My guess for final weapon is a big slow super strong weapon or a fast dual wield short range melee
bold sluice
so hammer or... nunchucks?
unique river
Thanos
opaque nexus
Yeah
bold sluice
i mean, the 4th aspect doesn't need to keep it a scythe
opaque nexus
Thanatos could be a combo counter type thing
bold sluice
just as guan yu isn't a spear strictly speaking
so we could have an axe as a reference to scandinavian/slavic
opaque nexus
Let’s go
bold sluice
seize the boons of production
opaque nexus
Ok we can all agree sword 4th is probably gonna be medieval
bold sluice
seems logical
winter cape
lightsaber
bold sluice
i was thinking energy barrier for a shield, actually
winter cape
Captain America aspect
bold sluice
that's just default shield lol
opaque nexus
Who is a famous crossbow user though
opaque nexus
Wait
bold sluice
bonus gold reward yknow
opaque nexus
You know phalanx where a bunch of shield dudes stand around a bow
bold sluice
true
bold sluice
native american aspect for the bow?
opaque nexus
Nah bro we need America for the gun
bold sluice
i mean, there's a lot of americas
or some kind of aztec stuff for bow or shield
i'm not strong at their mythology tho
brisk trail
which weapon its better to kill the final boss?
bold sluice
i'd say shield, if you just want to kill him once
brisk trail
i tried
bold sluice
but all are more or less viable
brisk trail
yeah, i can just like camp and waiting he attacks me (while protecting with shield) then speed and attack, but he keeps spawn enemies and is so annoying
bold sluice
i can recommend fishing for athena's aid with her keepsake
brisk trail
how do i fish?
bold sluice
helps a bunch when you don't have time to dodge or have to go in
brisk trail
i bought the fish thing for a diamond
bold sluice
i mean, get an athena's keepsake to increase the chance of getting her boons
not literally fish
brisk trail
uhh
bold sluice
i guess, that goes for all the gods, if you're able to construct a build you'll have easier time
also, hermes' boon for bonus dashes helps a lot vs final boss spin
bold sluice
gods can gift you keepsakes that basically force next boon you find to be from them
brisk trail
maybe i know it but i have the game in italian
bold sluice
i mean the bonuses that gods offer
brisk trail
oh
bold sluice
athena's active ability gives you invulnerability for a second of 2, which comes in handy
brisk trail
yeah ik athena's boons are rly usefull
latent light
her dash is so good
echo sluice
I still want a Transistor aspect for sword. Not sure what it would do, perhaps replace your call with a time stop
bold sluice
yea dash is good when clearing levels, call i find very useful against bosses
also, broken spearpoint and lucky tooth keepsakes help
brisk trail
but i just find the winter witch and other useless things
echo sluice
I prefer the bracers for defense
bold sluice
demeter is quite useful
slowing down the summoned monsters and kiting away with cast is one of the ways you can play
echo sluice
The slow seems pretty inconsistent in my experience. I wish it would show stacks
echo sluice
I once had the frost nova on cast with Aphrodite cast, it was amazing
Also I love the Dio and Demeter duo cast
brisk trail
oh
echo sluice
Red stabbey bois
brisk trail
i dont use them so much
bold sluice
get the upgrade in the mirror so you have more charges for cast if you haven't yet
and get the upgrade that gives you bonus damage against enemies with 2 curses
brisk trail
get the upgrade in the mirror so you have more charges for cast if you haven't yet
@bold sluice alredy did that
hoary sandal
they give damage, bonus damage, and depending on your boons, they almost one shot some enemies
brisk trail
mines just do 50 or 80, i never find some good boons for it
hoary sandal
like they turn the game kind of easy thinking of it
i like zeus' boon for it perfect
bc i always end up in a group fight
bold sluice
dionysus cast with hera's bow aspect tho
hoary sandal
i never liked dionysus cast, so thats a big oof for me
bold sluice
i mean, on its own it is kinda clunky
when you load it into the bow tho, it's a different story
winter cape
how do u guys play cast build?
winter cape
not enough dmg
bold sluice
press hard on artemis and demeter keepsakes for cast synergy and pray for hermes' reload and recall
hoary sandal
i always search for long range and quick damage, so Artemis and Zeus are my favorite boons
echo sluice
Ice Wine cast is 
hoary sandal
but i LOVE Athena's deflect on anything also
bold sluice
athena is generally real good yea
winter cape
I wish fully loaded was more common
bold sluice
you gotta get another cast-based artemis boon for it to appear
winter cape
just had a perfect cast run with athena cast and fully loaded
Just spam all 8 of them and hades melted
hard to replicate though
brisk trail
Fully Loaded, Chaos Grasp boons.
brisk trail
Wait, bought two?
winter cape
yea
I switched to the +8 encounter keep sake before styx
then I got the shop during dungeon
I mean I saw the shop twice
so I bought the cast item twice
it lasted long enough till Hades
sleek obsidian
Skip?
brisk trail
Bless you Greg for using the phrase "go full Mass Effect."
quasi sleet
you can skip the second hydra head phase by nuking him to 0 hp right before it triggers
i've only done it with aphrodite wrath but I figure theres some meaty crits or something that can too
royal hamlet
Hey everyone, I haven’t played in a very long time cause my computer seppukued itself a few months ago and I’ve seen mentions of things I didn’t get to discover yet in the recent Q&A: what are weapon aspects and legendary keepsakes?
shut plover
I'm having a difficult time getting billowing strength from Zeus, any tips?
wraith cipher
weapon aspects are variants you can get tthat change how the weapon plays
Sword has Nemessis Aspect with a chance to crit after using special and Poseidon Aspect that buffs cast damage and knocks bloodstoness out of enemies after being hit with speciall
||legendary keepsakes/companions/summons are giftss given by (atm) Than, Meg, Skelly, Sisiphus, and Dusa that can onllyy be used a limited amount of times per run|| spoilers
stoic quail
I thought this genre of game was over when Dead Cells was released. What could possibly live up to how good Dead Cells is? Well as it turns out, Hades doss. Absolutely superb gameplay and still lots more to come looking at roadmap. Very impressed. Looking forward to escaping again.
native atlas
@shut plover the wiki contains the requirements necessary for different boons
can links be posted here?
From what i can see there's no requirement for that one, so it's pure rng i think
unique river
I found Hades a lot more enjoyable to play than Dead Cells. Dead Cells is still great but it's a lot more hardcore than Hades and Hades puts the choice of difficulty in your hands, which I think is great
agile saddle
Dead cells was fun but once u unlocked all the items it got repetitive fast
Like cell 3+ became unfun difficulty
opaque nexus
Well the hardest possible difficulty in this game may not be possible lol
agile saddle
Just kinda silly
opaque nexus
We need someone dedicated to beating 49 heat
agile saddle
Like I love Dark Souls and Bloodborne but some games have unfun just plain stupid difficulty
stoic quail
Some people just love that kind of pain influcted upon them
vocal thorn
Dark Souls and Bloodbourne were super fair though, and no-hit playthroughs were possible. There wasn't any "cheap unavoidable damage" in the games; it mostly just punished button mashing
cloud belfry
yo what's the chair the house contractor sells that hypnos can sit in i wanna buy him a chair
vale kite
Divine chaise
winter cape
I mean if you dodge everything, it's doable but its gonna take a long time
having random boon (-2 options) is a huge turn off though, I think it shouldn't be part of the difficulty
trim surge
well high pact makes the game frustrating as it removes a lot of options
increased difficulty is fine but as soon as you take away options whether it's -boon choice, more expensive shops or having to sell boons it takes away a good chunk of what makes roguelikes fun
Extreme measures on the other hand add content
winter cape
yea some of them need to be revised
I dislike the timer and removing boon options the most
timer is just dps test which you often lack at high heats
also doesn't make sense with how random styx is
removing boon options is literally anti-drafting
calm laurel
heh, bc death
cloud belfry
looking through and i dont see it in my catalog. when do you unlock the chair?
azure crown
Guys can I ask a story question?
unborn spoke
?
azure crown
Spoilers okay?
unborn spoke
not in here ❤️
proud orbit
spoilers in #h1-story-discussion
azure crown
Doesn't seem active :(
primal cypress
Hey why is Demeter not appearing anywhere for me?
Do i have to do something to unlock her boons?
hexed smelt
you have to reach the final boss at least once
rare mirage
i want to offer some feedback but haven't done so before and i dunno if theres a reliable way to word things such that i can weed through old feedback to make sure im not duplicating stuff. is it ok if i end restating prior suggestions?
flat vapor
there’s been plenty and plenty of repeated suggestions, go for it
rare mirage
thanks!
flat vapor
just if you’ve seen any recent ones, go ahead and give them a thumbs up or down
rare mirage
right ill at least browse those
brisk trail
Hey there everyone I'm new to the server! How do I go about being able to post in the feedback channel? I have a topic I'd like to bring up.
timber quartz
It’s in the pinned messages in #hades-feedback !
The instructions to give feedback, that is
brisk trail
Thanks!
plucky isle
Guys, I'm struggling with the blade past 17 heat ever since the Divine Dash nerf. You guys got any builds to recommend?!?
sharp parcel
Nemesis, Aphro attack with Demeter special
torpid kindle
Bronze Skin - "Resist damage from foes' attacks"
Reduced Damage from Foes: +x%
Different League - "Resist some damage from nearby foes' attacks"
Reduced Damage from Foes: +x%
Is there any reason why these are worded differently?
rare mirage
i assume aphrodites only applies to melee range foes? but i dont actually know
torpid kindle
damage vs some damage
torpid kindle
foes' vs nearby foes' makes sense
Epic Bronze Skin is 18%
Different League vanilla is 19%
Makes sense if one is Melee vs Non-Melee
damage vs some damage doesn't
plucky isle
ty for the advice
brisk trail
I don't want to spam the Feedback channel so I thought I'd post this here as well so a discussion can be had:
Pact of Punishment: Budget Cuts
I personally disagree with the design decision on this modifier, all of the others I'm fine with. I find it lacks QoL constantly having to reset your Darkness after you remove it, and I don't really like the whole "budgeting your Darkness" feel of it. Instead of giving you a budget, I think it should just make the effects of the mirror that you have active less useful by a percentage per Budget Cuts level, maybe 20% per point, with a maximum of 4 bringing it to 80% less mirror effectiveness. This would make things like Shadow Presence only give +10% backstab damage when at full rank. Obviously just throwing around numbers here, but I feel this would be a more QoL way of implementing this mod.
Would probably have the rename it if they did change it based on this feedback, but what are your thoughts?
plucky isle
I like that Idea
brisk trail
Thanks! It's not that I find the current Budget Cuts difficult, I just hate having to use it. Going back and forth between the mirror just feels awkward. I've just finished Heat 11 so it's not from a difficult aspect that I dislike it if that's anything to go off.
rare mirage
i upvoted it but really just some level of good qol improvement would be enough for me. if they wanted to drop it in favor of something else thatd also be fine
but yeah i agree with the sentiment that its the most unwieldy modifier to toggle on/off
brisk trail
I think the only other mod I dislike is "Underworld Customs", due to it kinda being anti-fun how it can rupture a vital synergy in your build. I'd be fine with it just reverting one of your boons to Common tier or something instead. I'd rather it made something much less powerful than take it away from me.
rare mirage
is that the forced purge one?
brisk trail
Yes
vast junco
i like how this idea keeps the same philosophy of forcing the player's boost/survivability from darkness to be less pronounced (which is definitely a heat modifier i believe will remain in the game through to v1.0), just in a less tedious manner
rare mirage
i actually use it baseline as my first few heat haha, as its not really a penalty given that you also get gold and usually have some boons you dont need/actually dont want influencing future god rng
but yeah
you can get bad rng with it where you get 3 vital components
brisk trail
Exactly @vast junco, I wanted to keep the feel of limiting the mirror but in a less awkward way for the player to constantly deal with.
rare mirage
its also more punishing specifically zone 1 than elsewhere
brisk trail
I had an interesting idea for a new modifier should they be open to suggestions of additional mods. Something along the lines of in a Trial of the Gods room you anger the god you don't pick and remove them from the pool entirely from the run.
Obviously you could ignore those rooms so maybe force the player through that room if/when it shows up due to the mod's effect?
rare mirage
i kind of feel like there should be a greater penalty baseline to those rooms so maybe just add that as is with some sort of additional benefit to help offset it is?
trial of the gods rooms are auto picks for me every time they come up
i never care about offending a god
maybe that changes in higher heat runs? (i only run around 5 at the moment)
brisk trail
Yeah they are kind of a no-brainer when they show up regardless of what build you are planning.
plucky isle
Never anger Athena while doing the deadline heat challenge. It soaks up way too much time if your build isnt strong atm.
brisk trail
This can be shortened to never anger Athena. Her revenge terrifies me with the constant deflects.
plucky isle
agreed
proud orbit
I don't like the Budget Cuts change idea, having to pick and choose what suits you better is more interesting gameplay to me
brisk trail
I mean at max rank you basically can't spend much anyway.
static wadi
witg ranged weapon Athena is not a big deal. Poseidon may be a real problem
vast junco
having to let a baby exalted respawn because it's immune via athena trial 😔
proud orbit
I can get max Privileged Status, 25 extra health, a death defiance, an extra cast and an extra dash
That's all I need
I like that more than a pointless 10 hp, pointless 10% damage buff, pointless 10% back stab damage
If you want a lot of useless bonuses you could always just turn on budget cuts and put a single point in almost everything
But there's a reason why that's a bad idea
brisk trail
I mean the idea was that it was for QoL more than anything.
proud orbit
QoL maybe since you wouldn't have to go back to the mirror to change
But it would make the condition even more difficult than it currently is
brisk trail
Yes, that was the point of the idea
proud orbit
Which people already complain about
brisk trail
Well like I said, the numbers can be tweaked. Maybe only 50% less effective at max rank.
The point was to make it so you didn't have to keep revisiting the mirror everytime you go between using Budget Cuts and not
north bane
If it's only qol, you could just have two separate darkness profiles
One restricted one not
So the player doesn't have to micro it every time
Or let them manage it right there if you choose to turn it on
Put a little hand mirror next to the gate lol
robust viper
is there any point in giving a character lots of nectar
like ive given hypnos at least 6 so far to see if what would happen
brisk trail
Yes it increases your relationship with them. Certain characters offer things back down the line.
at the moment, a few of them will reward you at the max level of their relationship
north bane
Gives you those warm fuzzy feeling inside
robust viper
so you get a second keepsake if you keep feeding them nectar?
brisk trail
Not exactly.
not exactly a keepsake but yeah, altho only for a select few characters
like, really, a minority of the characters
cyan umbra
Is it me, or is adamant rail really terrible now?
brisk trail
I agree, I find the Rail incredibly underwhelming. I don't think I've had a run this patch I had fun with it, nor did I feel powerful at any point.
cyan umbra
Removing it's stun leaves you open to enemy attacks so badly
brisk trail
I just feel that the damage is way too low per bullet at base.
azure moat
Quick question, do I lose the pierced butterfly's bonus once I take it off?
brisk trail
I believe so yes, but I may be wrong.
vocal thorn
yes
azure moat
So i have to decide between a possible attack buff at the end, or a bonus death defiance.
Same deal with Hermes' trinket, right?
azure moat
so they can be very useful im assuming, if you can reliably go fast/not get hit
brisk trail
Yeah they're for snowballing. The better you do, the better you will do.
azure moat
im good, but I'm not THAT good. Yet
brisk trail
You will be. 😉
azure moat
I checked the pool and it said I've done 50 runs. It feels like I've done SO many more.