#h1-discussion

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wraith cipher
frosty vector
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Tah thank you

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Should still be added to their official playlist but eh.

worthy lotus
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oooh wait yea flamethrower for last weapon sounds right-ish

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thinking about the parallels w/ bastion weapons

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bastion melee: spear, machete, hammer
bastion ranged: repeater, bow, pistols, flamethrower, shotgun, mortar, launcher, carbine

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we have spear, sword is kinda like machete, i'd say shield is closest to hammer

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as far as ranged goes, rail is like a combo of repeater, mortar, launcher

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bow is like a combo of bow and shotgun (with the special)

winter river
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The other thing I think is worth considering is all the weapons belong to one of the olympions who fought the titans

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So far thats Poseidon, Hades, Zeus, Hera, Hestia

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we know now that Demeter ||is a titan in Hades canon||

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But she is one of Cronus 6 children originally

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so it might be her

sudden summit
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any1 know the best weapon/combo to get out first time

winter river
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Could also be Aphrodite, since she predates the Olympion-Titan war

worthy lotus
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@sudden summit i recommend the shield

wraith cipher
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a lot of people say shield, was my first too

sudden summit
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ive been using the gun and i got to 2nd phase of you know who

worthy lotus
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it's good b/c respectable damage, strong knockback, and most importantly, the ability to block

winter river
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@sudden summit I'd try sword with the Athena special and dash if you can get them. Deflect everything. It's OP

worthy lotus
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can't deflect lasers

winter river
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Gun is the hardest IMO

sudden summit
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na id say the spear

winter river
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no but brimstones and snakestones are pretty easy

worthy lotus
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yes, but our big boi final boss also has some nasty lasers

winter river
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usually only uses them a couple of times before the end. Not worth making a build around imo

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shields not a bad choice all the same, but I'd say don't use Zeus aspect. To much micro for beginners.

sudden summit
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oop

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i find that being able to shoot my nade 3 times as well as making it do a ton of dmg has gotten me pretty far

winter river
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I just find the gun hard to make a build around. Grenades are really good but you basically have to find a way to buff the base attack to make the build reliable, and that basically seems to require a specific buff from Dionysus. Zeus or Demeter attack are maybe alternatives.

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IDK, I suck with the Rail

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Only just got my first completion with it today. It was the only weapon I hadn't won with

worthy lotus
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main thing with ranged weapons is that you have to stand still while attacking

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so you gotta find the safe windows to do so

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which can be a bit hard sometimes

winter river
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I've got like 5 or 6 finished runs with sword.

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and about the same with shield

tawny patio
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@sudden summit my only two victories so far are both powered by the spear.

winter river
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ya, spear is definitely not a bad weapon

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especially the new Guan Yu aspect

tawny patio
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it just fits my play style better

fresh sapphire
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On my 10th run I got to last boss with Hera's bow. Got some major use out of Ares DOOM curse on main attack and then loading 3 casts into shot for mega dmg.

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How many extra lives is max? I have 2 right now, once I buy the 1000 darkness life is that max?

wraith cipher
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yeah

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Skelly's keepsake can work as a fourth, and chaos's legendary is an extra death defiance. although that one is notoriously rare

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but for mirror 3 is the max

worthy lotus
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||eurydice's keepsake can mitigate damage equal to a death defiance too!||

fresh sapphire
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Only seen her once.

worthy lotus
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once you see her a second time, you can give an OJ for the keepsake

fresh sapphire
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Was using Nyx darkness = health on the run I got to last boss.

worthy lotus
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oh wait i should probably spoiler those

fresh sapphire
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To bad I didn't have the mirror buff that has you do more dmg to enemy with cast stone in them. May have beaten last boss if I did...

worthy lotus
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you'll get it eventually!

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it wouldn't be a proper final boss if it wasn't easy :3

wraith cipher
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||what eurydice's keepsake does is prevent a few instances of damage from a boss, i think it ranks 3 times/4/5||

fresh sapphire
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Yeah, that could save a lot of HP.

lofty pendant
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You're doing a heck of a lot better than I am, Dri. XD
I'm going on 50 ish runs and I still haven't beaten the final boss, lol

fresh sapphire
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I lost both my extra lives on 3rd boss guys.

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I do play a lot of roguelikes 😄

devout plinth
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||Yeah, especially on hades I find eurydice’s keepsake more valuable than skelly tooth||

worthy lotus
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i recommend using the shield

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makes bosses considerably easier

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since you can just block, wait for them to attack, then hit

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instead of having to time your dodge

wraith cipher
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i never remember to block 😅

fresh sapphire
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I find that one room in 3rd area, with miniboss butterfly thing is easily as hard as another other boss. So mean.

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Always take heavy dmg in that room. So many other enemies spawn too. =/

worthy lotus
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i did it by rushing the ball and just killing any eyes that spawn near me, kiting the rest

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once you get rid of the butterflies the rest of the enemies are much easier to kite

lofty pendant
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Yeah honestly the fight goes a lot quicker/easier if you focus on killing the ball first

worthy lotus
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i think the adds just spawn continuously until you kill the ball

brisk trail
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they do pensivebread

fresh sapphire
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Oh that is mean.

worthy lotus
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so yea focus the ball down asap

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then pick off the rest

wraith cipher
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at some point i should let as many exalted spawn as possible and take a screenshot

worthy lotus
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i think if you just turtle with block in a good corner that might be possible

graceful vortex
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Hi! I got a question!

worthy lotus
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ask away!

graceful vortex
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uhm uhm I'm currently playing the early access for the game on steam and uhmm

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I was wondering if support for streamlabs obs would be available in future patches/updates? :0

worthy lotus
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wdym by that?

graceful vortex
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because I can't use the streamlabs chat overlay with Hades currently ><

worthy lotus
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oh, chat overlay

graceful vortex
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mhm!

worthy lotus
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that's probably a question best asked to the devs

graceful vortex
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a h

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my bad ><

worthy lotus
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dw, it's fine

graceful vortex
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Thanks for responding! >w<

fresh sapphire
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How much titan blood does it take to full upgrade and aspect?

brisk trail
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15 i think ?

fresh sapphire
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Wowza.

brisk trail
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some take even more

winter river
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Only one I've maxed so far is Guan Yu

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it was 3 titan blood to unlock and another 12 to fully upgrade I think?

brisk trail
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yep

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that’s the most pricey one

edgy ridge
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anyone knows if devs are planning on adding achievements on steam?

brisk trail
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Not yet, though we expect to add Steam Achievements (as well as Trading Cards, etc.) by the time Early Access is complete.```
edgy ridge
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hell yeah thanks sir

sleek obsidian
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trading cards 👀

unique river
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It's not actually the most pricey one

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Guan yu total titan blood cost is 15, while the third aspect of any weapon is 16

brisk trail
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i thought guan yu was 18 😮

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ooh yeah it can only be upgraded 5 times

cold adder
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not being able to attack after throwing the shield special really messes me up

burnt breach
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well if you throw your shield it's not in your hand anymore

empty ferry
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unless you use the Zeus aspect, in which case you cant hold all these duplicating shields

burnt breach
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yeah its weird

stiff summit
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Anyone watched the latest jawless paul where he said theres an upcoming god?

mental sleet
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did someone say trading cards 👀

proud seal
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How do you unlock the Gyan Yu aspect?

primal whale
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I think you beat hades once and then talk to achilles?

keen grove
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I'm not sure, I got it through conversations with Achilles

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before beating Hades I'm sure

primal whale
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Might not even need to beat hades then

proud seal
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Do you have to beat Hades with the spear? Because I’ve beaten the game a few times, but only with the bow

primal whale
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maybe try going a run with the spear and regardless of whether you win or lose, talk to achilles

proud seal
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I’ll try that, thanks

primal whale
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I honestly don't remember, I just play and then check if anyone wants to talk to me after each run

proud seal
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Do the keepsakes that give you a specific god’s boon next only work at the start of a run?

primal whale
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Crap I think they work once per level, or they work once per run

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I'm leaning towards run, but the increase in rarity is all run

proud seal
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I tried equipping one before I went to Asphodel and the god never showed up

proud orbit
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You get guan yu by ||reaching Lord hades at least once, unlocking at least three other aspects, then speaking to achilles||

proud seal
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@proud orbit I’ve already done all of that

proud orbit
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Then keep speaking to him and it should unlock

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Then all you have to do is inspect the spear once he mentions it

worthy lotus
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which weapons have 4th aspects available rn?

humble panther
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offtop @proud orbit hello, how u make spoiler?

primal whale
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@worthy lotus just the spear for now

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||Put the message between double bars or highlight the part you want black barred and right click it and choose Mark as Spoiler||

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@humble panther ^^^

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Double bars being ||

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On both sides of the text; no space

humble panther
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||444||

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XD thanks

primal whale
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Although highlighting and right clicking is probably easier

sharp parcel
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technically, Hades has in-game achievements already

little eagle
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Hello

echo quail
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How do i get achileas to tell me bout the spear

topaz kayak
primal kelp
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are there any tips for fishing? normally i am too early or late. is there any sort of indicator for the right moment ?

plush pike
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The bobbing thing will sink into the water completely

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Try not to fall for the twitching (that's hard though)

tender tulip
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For me the telltale sign of a bite is when the ripples around the bobber shines

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usually end up with a standard catch, sometimes a perfect if I time it right

split bronze
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is it normal for the cast bloodstones to end up out of reach? im using the bow of hera with aphrodite cast and whenever i hit a wall it just goes out of bounds >.<

livid cargo
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Its a known problem, i think

modest sinew
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does hades differentiate more damage and increased damage in this game or are they both the same?

livid cargo
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I think they are the same

modest sinew
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alright ty

delicate arrow
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How does Hera bow work exactly?

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Whenever you cast, a cast is loaded into your next attack?

hexed smelt
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when you press the cast button, instead of firing it stores the cast in your next attack

granite yoke
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Am using Nintendo Switch Pro Controller to play, whenever I use lance, when I charge my controller keep vibrating and Zag is froze. I had to disconnect my controller and disable vibration to overcome this.

delicate arrow
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Ohhhh ok

hexed smelt
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once you attack, the cast happens at the location of wherever the attack lands

delicate arrow
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So it's essentially a guaranteed hit on every cast?

hexed smelt
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basically!

delicate arrow
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So if you have blade rift, does the rift start from the impact point?

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Or from shooting point?

modest sinew
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impact

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i can gif how it works i had a run with it i recorded not long ago

hexed smelt
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it always starts from the impact point

delicate arrow
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Can you fire cast 3 times with one attack?

hexed smelt
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kinda fun to use with aphrodite because the spray will hit anyone behind the target as well, it's nice for clusters

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yup!

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as many ammo as you have

delicate arrow
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Oh that's cool actually

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Cos ive been spamming Artemis Ares zagreus bow, was thinking of saving up for Hera bow with titan blood

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However, I'm assuming it has horrible synergy with Demeter s snow Burst, right?

modest sinew
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its not terrible, i havent messed with it too much though

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ares is better though

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might be really good with the better targetting duo

tender tulip
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Snow Burst is okay when you've got enemies nearby, if you're talking about the boon that sends out a burst of chill when you cast

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you get multiple waves at once if you load up your shot with multiple casts

modest sinew
delicate arrow
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Oh my god.

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Btw, power shot would have gotten him @modest sinew

modest sinew
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my call?

delicate arrow
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No, the bows power shot

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Charge , then fire

modest sinew
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oh yea

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i didnt focus on power shots that run

delicate arrow
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Even more if you had dashed

modest sinew
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i just let the cast do its thing

delicate arrow
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For the dash strike increasing powrrshot speed

final wyvern
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Why is it my fastest run is with the zagreus aspect sword

delicate arrow
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So you just played carefully till you got cast?

final wyvern
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No..

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It was a mix of everything. Frost strikes, weakening special, poison casts

delicate arrow
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Ahhh I see haha

sharp parcel
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@modest sinew is that eye tracker on the screen?

delicate arrow
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Cos usually I attack whilst waiting for cast

final wyvern
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Funny enough like every boss fight the boss dropped me to like 2-5 hp and then killed them so i never lost a death defy till hades

delicate arrow
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@final wyvern wait I was talking to eon haha

modest sinew
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no, its a mouse cursor i use for games, mostly path of exile when there is a lot of screen clutter and i have trouble finding the default cursor

delicate arrow
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@modest sinew you play on controller?

modest sinew
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nah i use kb/m

final wyvern
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I didnt even bother trying mouse and keyboard controls, i just play on controller

delicate arrow
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Bruh @modest sinew

modest sinew
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hi

final wyvern
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Idk . Everytime i try a roguelike on mouse and keyboard where ur character and enemy sprites are small it just doesnt work out for me

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Need aim assist 🤡

modest sinew
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i played a lot of fps/aim trainer so its not that big of a deal for me personally, though i do use controller for some stuff like binding of isaac

sharp parcel
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there's aim assist for the mouse, too

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cause trying to hit enemies without it is a pain

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but at least your ranged attacks don't randomly target vases, like the gamepad aim assist sometimes does

delicate arrow
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Itm my controller doesn't target vases at all

sharp parcel
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I don't use the gamepad but I watched a few streamers that do and all of em encountered that issue

final wyvern
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Sometimes its completely accurate, othertimes i have no idea where my shot went

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Probably why i prefer melee weapons

sharp parcel
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very noticeable during the fight against the 2nd boss if you use the rail

final wyvern
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Anyone clear a run with no choice maxxed

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🤡

sharp parcel
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easily accomplished if you don't use other modifiers

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with something like Chaos shield or Hestia rail

final wyvern
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Chaos shield is resident sleeper

sharp parcel
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or Guan Yu spear

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we got that one, too residentzag🛡️

analog elbow
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@near canopy why does Theseus get gods aid?

proud orbit
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residentzag 🛡

final wyvern
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Theseus is so frustrating

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Just blocks everything, and if u got time deadline theres no time to just wait it out with casts..

sharp parcel
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he was a favored of the gods in life

near canopy
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@analog elbow I’ll say in a bit

serene obsidian
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@final wyvern I faired much better against Theseus once I started use two tactics..... dash moves that damage at the end (dashing through him) and counter punching his spear throws (after the spear recall he turns away)

modest sinew
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yea you need to wait until after he recovers his spear, or if you have bow chain shot off walls/pillars into him

brisk trail
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where do i report bugs ?

indigo mango
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f10

chrome fulcrum
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Hades dota 2 announcer pls dusa

near canopy
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@analog elbow basically he was a hero when he was alive so he has to gods favour and they like him

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He only gets blessings of gods you don’t have yet though

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It’s impossible to have all 8 gods at that time

fast ivy
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so how do you get permission to talk in the feedback and suggestions threads?

analog elbow
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@near canopy ah! That is pretty cool!

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@fast ivy check the pinned messages in Feedback

brisk trail
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I'm incredibly impressed with the progress this game has made in 1 year since the early release.

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I remember when it was just 2 biomes and most of the cast was robes.

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Major kudos to Supergiant for showing that real studios produce instead of talk about producing.

fast ivy
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@analog elbow I read the pinned messages but didn't see a way to get permission

indigo mango
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its #6

deep pivot
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I never buy early access games but this is my 1st and SG didn’t disappoint residentzag

brisk trail
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Most early access is overhyped youtuber garbage. But SG delivers. squirtyay

mental sleet
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Damn charging around with chaos shield + Athena boon is fun

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any suggestion what I should be aiming for the special slot?

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right now I have a rare Ares boon on it but I could sell it later

safe sand
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10,000 reviews in Steam! Congratulations : >

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lately they started typing very quickly

rigid light
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I was previously able to give nectar to each god for each completed round, but after the latest patch, it appears not to be the case.

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Is this an intended change ?

sharp parcel
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you can give 1 nectar to the same god once each run

rigid light
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I started a new run after successfully completing the previous run, but I am unable to give nectar to the same god

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there is no option to give nectar, only to talk & accept the boon

indigo mango
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have you maxed them out?

hexed smelt
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this is going to sound dumb but maybe you've just... maxed out their hearts?

sterile thunder
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Hello. I just completed the game for the first time a few days ago, and I would like to post on the feedback part, but I can't right now. Is there any way to submit some feedback? ^^

indigo mango
delicate arrow
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|| guys I just beat Hades ||

indigo mango
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👏 👏

oak knot
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Cool but you might want to spoiler tag that

indigo mango
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good call

delicate arrow
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That's the best spoiler tag I got

indigo mango
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you can use || on both sides of a message to spoiler it

delicate arrow
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|| oh ||

indigo mango
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👌

delicate arrow
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There you go

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What is there to do after ||beating hades||?

indigo mango
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you'll see :D

delicate arrow
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The what

indigo mango
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that might be spoilers too

halcyon cypress
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No spoiling GWvictoriaMeguFace

fast ivy
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ah sorry

brisk trail
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Hades is an amazing game that I love

oak knot
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Never heard of it

brisk trail
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Too bad, you might like it

flint fossil
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sounds like hell

brisk trail
peak berry
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Quick question, is the only way to access the roadmap through the game or is there another way to access it?

full fern
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hey everyone, quick question, does my dash strike do +74% +50% +30% = +154% damage or +74% +50% = 124% damage or x 1.74 x 1.50 x 1.30 = 3.393 or +339.3% damage or x 1.74 x 1.50 = 2.61 or 261% damage ??? thanks everyone !!! https://i.imgur.com/9H9WOTg.jpg

opal lodge
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I believe the game is pretty adamant about separating anything that is 'attack%' from 'dash attaack%'

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Last I tried, there was no difference in my dash attack damage before and after getting a chaos Attack% boon

hexed smelt
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if anything it should be clearer now that dash attacks are called "Dash-Strike" ingame

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anything that says "attack" should apply to both, while "dash-strike" is just your dash attack

opal lodge
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Huh...I might need to retest on my next run then o-o

solar scarab
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dusa best character, fight me

brisk trail
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Will never fight you on that. That's a hard agree from me

solar scarab
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lol yea

unique river
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@full fern additive, so 154%

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340% would be amegablobsweats

analog elbow
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@mental sleet try ares, it's amazing, especially if you get the athena/ares duo

void nova
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what gods have been added since the original release? i know demeter and hermes of course, pretty sure dionysus wasn't there originally either, were there any others?

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artemis maybe?

vale kite
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chaos and dio

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(+ hermes and demeter)

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chaos showed up in jan 2019 with the first pact of punishment and dio followed in feb 2019 with the rail

red coral
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Chaos, Demeter, Hermes, and Dionysus are all the ones that come to mind

alpine stratus
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ah...memories.....

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artemis was there from the start but she had placeholder art

deep pivot
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I wonder if Apollo would be included in the future

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He and Artemis cranking together haha

void nova
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ah yeah remembering the placeholder art must have been what i was thinking

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cool cool

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man i'd love more gods, i know they say they don't want to bloat the boon system but i feel like there are a ton of room for more viable boon concepts tbh

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you know one thing i think could be cool might be wrapping the other non-god gold laurels up into god offerings, so gold laurels are all gods, and just some can give you +maxHP, coins, boon buffs (there are already gods who do all those things, maybe just sprinkle a couple others in so the drop rate would be similar to what it is now with the non-god gold laurels)

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well, except hammer of course

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that would have to stay separate

jovial scarab
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Does the little skull next to a room icon mean that room will be harder?

hexed smelt
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yup!

jovial scarab
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That's what I assumed but I wasn't sure

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Thanks

hexed smelt
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the skull gets more arrows next to it as the rooms get harder

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elite is just a regular room with harder enemies, one arrow is a miniboss, two arrows is an infernal gate, a gold skull with three arrows and a star is an actual boss

jovial scarab
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Ooooh

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Did I miss this explanation, or have they not added it yet?

oak knot
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Huh i never notice the arrows, i simply remember boon with skull is miniboos and resource with skull is lots of amored enemies

hexed smelt
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it's not explained ingame so far as i know

covert plover
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I'll ask it here since it's not like if it was in the game, it'd "spoil" anything: how do peeps feel about cosmetic costumes/outfits for Zagreus? (like... after they finally settle with all the things they want to put in the game that matters) 👀

halcyon cypress
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Yah

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A barber character

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To chamge his hair style

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One hairstyle for each god

oak knot
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Those are just small bonuses so yeah why not

rain yew
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Zag showing up to hades fight with his father's hair style and spearLUL

covert plover
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Hehehehe

jovial scarab
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Spoilers, Rim

plush pike
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Concept: Zagreus with a bunch of action figures of whoever, putting on silly voices for each one

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I'm heckin' hungry so the dumb thoughts are flowing

indigo mango
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i bet his skelly impression would be pretty good

covert plover
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heheh

static wadi
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Hello people

agile saddle
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does vicious skewer work with Achilles aspect on the spear?

static wadi
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yes

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you can still call ur spear back

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only thing is not working with Achiles - exploding spear

modern garnet
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zag should get a goku haircut with massive head spikes

agile saddle
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i mean if i chase my spear does it proc skewer?

static wadi
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well

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idk

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i will test it tomorrow

agile saddle
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are certain god boons super rare or something? i am missing one from Athena and one from Dion

static wadi
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@agile saddle what are? legendaries?

agile saddle
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and i always grab them if i see them yet no luck

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black out and divine protection

static wadi
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well yes legendaries

agile saddle
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damn

static wadi
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for Athena leg u need 1 basic skill first - Attack Special dash

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after that u can find riposte

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and when u take riposte - u can have chance for leg

agile saddle
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ohhh

static wadi
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and dio is even harder

agile saddle
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i hate picking Dio cause i find all his skills weak

indigo mango
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need cast specifically right?

static wadi
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weak lol?????

agile saddle
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hangover doesnt do much damage his cast is good for the stun

static wadi
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As Chiron and Chaos shield user i disagree

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Dio is op

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and with Hera too

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for Dio leg u want his cast

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and some tier 2 boon for poison

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Peer Pressure, Numbing Sensation or Bad Influence

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it means u need some poison skill too for that

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Attack cast or dash

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shadeeyeroll Try Chiron with dio

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one of the best build i ever played

agile saddle
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i only use hera bow

static wadi
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lol Dio with Hera just great

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esp with Zeus duo

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that damage

agile saddle
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well his cast his good like i said

static wadi
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so for dio leg u want go all dio skills

agile saddle
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but for hangover to do any real damage u have to keep reapplying and at that point just kill them

static wadi
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shadesmile no damage lol

viral rover
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Gerty, do remember that Hangover counts as a curse so the damage ticks will deal 50% extra damage if you get a second curse like Weak or Ruptured etc

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At which point it really starts to add up

static wadi
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@viral rover weak usually

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fo the duo

viral rover
#

Weak works best, yes, but Privileged Status isn't fussy and sometimes Aphrodite just doesn't show up

static wadi
#

Rose ftw!

delicate arrow
#

I broke my bloody wrist trying to run greatest reflex with tidal surge

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And weaving 200 damage autos with each dash

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So i have to dash 6 times as fast as the bow permits

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At least triple shot and explosive shot are doing work with Artemis crit

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Absolutely painful to run, but it gets damage pumping

plush pike
#

Sounds like a run where you needed some Initial D music blaring in the background

delicate arrow
#

Indeed

whole ocean
#

I kinda hate that some Daedalus upgrades nullify the aspect you've chosen.

plush pike
#

I haven't tried a dash build yet, I'm assuming it is fun?

delicate arrow
#

Well tbh it's not exactly a dash build

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Its a cast build with 6 dashes

plush pike
#

Ah I misread

delicate arrow
#

Because thats how the dice rolled

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Got hunting blades duo

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And I haven't used my special once despite me getting Demeter chill

static wadi
#

well 1st

delicate arrow
#

there you go

static wadi
#

dont spoil

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and 2nd is dead link

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aaaand 3rd i guess Gameplay channel

frosty vector
#

I don't think the railgun has a dash attack even though the daedelus hammer upgraded it. If it does have a dash attack it's not noticeable.

delicate arrow
#

there you go

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absolute bonkers

static wadi
#

@frosty vector wdym?

delicate arrow
#

But I'll probably die cos I'm trash

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@frosty vector it does

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Railgun auto speed increases I think

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And is 3 round burst

static wadi
#

@delicate arrow lol u have HB

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u cant die

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just dash away and drop that damage

frosty vector
#

I dunno. I had 3 round burst, inf ammo upgrade and upped the dash attack and couldn't tell what it even was so

delicate arrow
#

@static wadi guess we'll find out

static wadi
delicate arrow
#

Yay i won

static wadi
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🔥 grats

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and looks like i cant say the same

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0 dd 28 hp after elisium

delicate arrow
#

Oof

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I only did 1 heat though

static wadi
#

trying 18 now(

delicate arrow
#

It wasn't the usual build I'm accustomed to, as boons came out stupid

plush pike
#

glhf, friendo

delicate arrow
#

Artemis attack with Demeter special, Ares blade rift, Poseidon dash, Zeus god gauge

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Then everything else was Artemis based

static wadi
#

wait did they removed poison effect?

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when cleaner shined brighter?

delicate arrow
#

@static wadi you mean on Dio or Styx?

static wadi
#

Styx

delicate arrow
#

They didn't remove any poison

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You can get it from rats or satyrs

static wadi
#

yes

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and when i'm poisoned

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those clening pools strats to shine

delicate arrow
#

They always shine

static wadi
#

to see them

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only when u posioned

delicate arrow
#

Then I'm delusional

static wadi
#

now they dont

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it was added in first winter update

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iirc

brisk trail
#

hey guys there is a metod to remove the post processing on hades?

static wadi
#

?

brisk trail
#

sorry

static wadi
#

np

carmine pecan
#

i already have 54 hours

#

wth

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i finally maxed chaos shield

static wadi
#

215 here

carmine pecan
#

still have no idea how to get sisyplis documents

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i talked to hades and mag but nothing came up in the contracter thingy

static wadi
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@carmine pecan lets not speak about it in this channel

carmine pecan
#

ok

static wadi
#

it may be kinda spiler

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and all u need is more try i guess

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if u maxed hearts

carmine pecan
#

yea i cant gift any more necter

fast minnow
#

anyone else take their headphones off in styx because of the spitters

static wadi
#

nope

fast minnow
#

neat

analog elbow
#

@fast minnow they are friggin gross

fast minnow
#

they make me genuinely uncomfortable

spring radish
#

gonna do some Demeter runs, any duos worth going for?

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The Poseidon one looks interesting

brisk trail
#

Cold Fusion is excellent.

spring radish
#

Do I need Demeter or Poseidon's cast for that one?

brisk trail
#

Poseidon's.

deep spade
#

all of demeter's duo cast boons are excellent
except for demeter/artemis because dem's base cast is terrible

brisk trail
#

Have you used Crystal Clarity before?

deep spade
#

yes

brisk trail
#

It's her second best Duo.

deep spade
#

I really don't think so

brisk trail
#

After Cold Fusion.

deep spade
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any other duo cast boon is better

brisk trail
#

I can't think of that many Cast duos, but Lightning Phalanx jumped to mind as a pretty inferior option since its bounce count nerf.

vocal thorn
#

her duo with poseidon doesn't seem better. It's so slow that it hits the final boss for like 2 ticks, before he dashes somewhere else. Then I'm stuck waiting for it to finish, so I can get my crystals back

deep spade
#

lightning phalanx is great because athena's cast does AoE damage

brisk trail
#

(The bounce check distance isn't super great either, it sticks in enemies super often)

deep spade
#

you get a bunch of clumped up enemies, it'll bounce between them and hit all of them

brisk trail
#

It's a tiny AoE.

flint fossil
#

Athena cast's AoE isn't negligible

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Its legit

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The important part about it though is its high base damage

deep spade
#

Demeter's cast does 8-11 base damage every 0.2 seconds for 5 seconds, 5 ticks per second for 5 seconds is 25 ticks, 8x25 = 200, 11x25 = 275. 200 to 275 damage per cast. You will never get that much damage out of it because it tracks so slow.
The Artemis duo adds 10% damage and makes it actually track, so now you're actually getting that 220-300 maximum damage on each cast.
Lightning phalanx does 85-136 base damage in a moderate AoE up to 5 times, theoretical maximum of 425-680 damage if it doesn't catch anything in the AoE. If you get more than one enemy in the AoE, your damage starts increasing exponentially. Athena's cast embeds, so there's a longer cycle time if you don't kill what it embeds into or it bounces somewhere far away, but it can also have a faster cycle time if you kill the embedded enemy before 5 seconds are up.

tender tulip
#

Makes me want to try and fish for a Lightning Phalanx Hera run the more you talk about it, lol

tiny dust
#

another understated benefit of athena cast is the fact that it deflects along the way too

static wadi
#

@tiny dust animation speed for athena is so long

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idk why

tiny dust
#

the wind up? or the travel time?

wicked sail
#

just lost a really good run to a game crash and im big sad. had 4 stacks of death defying and was about to give the bag to Cerberus...

static wadi
#

not flight

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but the way Zag throws

#

usually i can cast and dash

tiny dust
#

hmm never really noticed

static wadi
#

and for athena if i dash - cast cancels

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and stone remains with me

tiny dust
#

i often have flurry cast though, so i feel like all base cast throws are slow

mellow ridge
#

Is there any word on when the Hades soundtrack will be available on Google Play or Amazon Music?

fringe lynx
#

Does anyone know if multiple chaos boons stack if they're on the same stat?

static wadi
#

additive iirc

tiny dust
#

correct

solar scarab
#

dusa _ _

chrome tinsel
#

@mellow ridge I think probably when the game is out of early access?

agile reef
#

0+6666666666-98888888

remote lily
#

@mellow ridge Available on Spotify

shut plover
#

So I believe that there is a text error in the codex, how do I go about reporting it?

proud orbit
#

F10 as usual

hexed smelt
#

i'm curious what the error is now :o

shut plover
#

It's the lord Hades text, they accidently wrote in line 5 "Suffice it, then, to say Lord Hades takes matters of of his..."

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No big deal, but I thought I was being dumb when I was reading it at first.

hexed smelt
#

i'm... not seeing the issue?

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OH

shut plover
#

yeah lol

#

I'm kinda thinking about going through more text to see if there is anymore.

hexed smelt
#

honestly just report them if you see them

shut plover
#

I most likely will

hexed smelt
#

it looks like that error is only in one specific version of the codex entry

shut plover
#

hm, interesting

livid cargo
#

Entire codex is not compliments about dusa, sgg plz fix

shut plover
#

dusa nice, but meg is better lol

severe shuttle
proud orbit
#

Check pins

severe shuttle
#

thanks

split mauve
lost raven
#

I have all the renovations for the Lounge but A Place of Revelry isn't completing on the list of prophecies. Does anyone know what's going on with that?

unborn spoke
#

no idea

carmine pecan
#

i dont think so

mellow ridge
#

.

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@remote lily yeah, but when I have the rest on Google play, I want to keep them all together.

calm laurel
#

I feel like there's supposed to be a sofa there

rugged frost
#

You can get it from the contractor

acoustic parrot
#

What would you say is the easiest condition to handle for early heats?

#

I've been pumping up Forced Overtime but I'm wondering if Damage Control is really all that bad

unborn spoke
#

im using up enemy dmg myself

acoustic parrot
#

that one sounds kinda rough, especially in Elysium

indigo verge
#

it's only really a problem in Elysium

acoustic parrot
#

I'm just wondering which stat is least damaging to clear the early heats

proud orbit
#

forced overtime is possibly the most damaging

#

hard labor, extreme measures and convenience fee are some of the easier ones

#

jury summons and calesthenics program are also easy without tight deadline

#

tight deadline (level 1) is easy if you dont put on anything to make rooms take longer

#

which would be jury summons, calesthenics program and damage control

#

damage control being good or bad depends on what weapons you're using

#

rapid fire weapons dont care

#

just single big hit weapons struggle real bad

dire yoke
#

I just did the math. Out of almost 350 escape attempts, most of them at reasonably high heat, I've cleared... 57 times.

#

I don't know if that's good or bad.

proud orbit
#

If you're a high heat gamer sounds pretty good to me

opaque nexus
#

Who here has the 5000 gem thing

tiny dust
#

you mean before the update?

opaque nexus
#

Did the update change something

tiny dust
#

prices got changed, i don't think there is a 5000 gem item anymore

#

i could be wrong, if it's just not unlocked yet

split mauve
#

what was it

#

ok it was this

#

that's ridiculous

real rampart
#

I don't believe that's in there anymore

#

rip Bastion reference

split mauve
#

it's not there at all?

#

thought it would just be cheaper

real rampart
#

oh wait sorry

#

1500 gems aye

split mauve
#

woohoo

#

the aphrodite poster should be 5000

rigid light
#

The Rare Crop boon from Demeter is quite weak imo. I got Rare Crop in Tartarus, but a boon that got cultivated by it only increased till Heroic when the round ended

#

encounters doesn't seem to count in Temple of Styx

#

maybe it was used on the wrong boon lol, the boon was originally epic ><.

split mauve
#

I just had it on my last run and it was great
but I got lucky with which boon it chose

tiny dust
#

Heroic is the highest boons can be upgraded to

#

Rare Crop is quite strong, and the rooms in Styx do count if you get it late and it's still upgrading

rigid light
#

Oh, no way for it to be legendary ?

tiny dust
#

no, legendaries are unique

rigid light
#

ah, thanks for the info, it isn't that bad then 🙂

split mauve
#

wait what?

#

I swear my boon got upgraded to legendary

#

with rare crop

kind shard
#

nah, legendary boons are a completely different thing

split mauve
#

huh

void lake
#

is there any fix for the godawful keyboard input lag i'm having?

sand marsh
#

Just wanted to say I've had the game less than a week and have already sunk in around 30 hours between school and work. Absolutely love this game

rugged frost
#

I'm honestly scared to look at how much I've played this game. Especially cause most of it will be in the past 7ish days.

azure edge
#

Is there any way to copy your save files into a different slot? I've got a file with a LOT of hours on it, but I want to split it. (I stream, but I also want a separate file that I can play during my own time.)

split mauve
#

probably renaming the save files

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change the number in em

azure edge
#

Hmm. Now to locate the save file.

split mauve
#

steam?

azure edge
#

Epic.

split mauve
#

should be in Documents/Saved Games/Hades/

#

oh

#

not sure about epic

azure edge
#

Oh. It's there too.

split mauve
#

oh ok nice

scenic storm
#

has it already been suggested to let shield bash go over gaps?

#

just had a good shield run but i kept finding myself getting stuck on approach when an enemy jumped over a gap in the floor n it was a little annoying

timid fog
#

Are there any plans to implement support for 120fps?

sterile light
#

@scenic storm heey I thought of that too!

hasty prawn
#

I haven't had any issues playing at 120fps

fast ivy
#

am I missing the point of the bow hammer exploding shot? It charges SO slow that it feels basically useless, especially since it's such a small blast radius. Is there a build that utilizes this that I'm just not seeing? It feels under tuned. I lost a run because I took it

scenic storm
#

nice im glad im not the only one dagger

noble halo
#

wow this game rocks

unborn spoke
#

it does.

ornate rampart
#

Finished my first run ! 🥰 Aspect of Hera + Chain Shot + Sniper Shot + Artemis (Attack) + Zeus (cast/jolted/call) + some Ares and Aphrodite here and then

unborn spoke
#

gj ❤️

sleek obsidian
#

Woot!!

rigid light
#

@fast ivy damn, I lost a run due to this hammer shot modifier as well.
The charging time is counter effective for most bow play styles

#

I was using Chiron aspect.. and this is pretty fatal LOL

sleek obsidian
#

I think my favorite bow Daedalus upgrade so far is range loss for double shot. It helped me so much against the dynamic duo in Elysium

plush dagger
#

the charged special is not a good upgrade, the additional damage is not great, no power shot and the bow special animation is already long enough, having to charge it on top of that is pretty bad

#

Double shot is my favourite upgrade too

sleek obsidian
#

And the fact that if you don't fully charge it you're basically losing range is not great either

#

Unless you have Chiron aspect that would really mess you up

plush dagger
#

I thought it also reduced Chiron aspect range?

sleek obsidian
#

The homing arrows have range??

#

I know that if some hit and the others got stopped for some reason they'll stop, but I didn't remember it messed up the homing range too

plush dagger
#

''the charged special daedalus hammer upgrade feels really bad with Chiron aspect due to the low range on uncharged shots and long charge time. I don't know how easy this would be to implement but it'd be nice if either the charge speed was increased or if there was a way to increase it mechanically, like the bow's dash attack''

sleek obsidian
#

If that's true then yeah that could use some tweakage

#

Ooooof

split bronze
#

if you submit multiple fish at once to chef you are supposed to get multiple rewards right?, whenever i submit a hellfish with any other fishes i dont seem to get multiple rewards

sleek obsidian
#

Check how many gemstones you're getting because if you submit multiple gemstone fish you'll get the stack all at once

split bronze
#

hmm i know when i send in a gupp and hellfish together i get 25 gemstone but im not sure what their individual rewards are

knotty epoch
#

they should really make the rewards clearer

#

i don't like having to do algebra to attempt to determine the costprice of a fish

vale kite
#

hellfish is 5 gupp is 20

#

there's a table in the wiki

split bronze
#

i see alright then, thank you 😄

calm laurel
#

happy Demeter kinda creeps me out

  • when the frost flake are a bit too frosty *
empty ferry
#

oml those designs

#

pokemon should take notes

calm laurel
#

indeed

empty ferry
#

it out-tentacruels tentacruel

sleek obsidian
#

Omg I need those chaos fish I don't get fishing spots there
Maybe I'll do some egg runs because God those rewards are beautiful

empty ferry
#

diamonds and titan blood 😋

sleek obsidian
#

Mmmmm

#

And ambrosia which you can trade for titan blood!

low venture
#

I have died to aimbot Theseus in armor and on drugs too many times

noble halo
#

oh man shield seems just a little bit broken

#

only a little bit

low venture
#

On high heat rn its the only way

#

To succeed on runs

#

Cuz everything els is basically so fast it auto hits you

#

And rng

#

Its allll against you so

#

You kinda forget its op when everything els kills you regardless

wispy lodge
#

Hey, I can get one of the 3-diamonds upgrades. Which one do you think it's best to get? I don't think the gemstones=money or the darkness=health ones are worth it, but I'm torn between nectar=+1boon and keys=+1alterreward

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Especially because IK have no idea what "alter reward" means

umbral frost
#

I chose the key one just because rerolling a room I really didn't want seemed like a good thing, but I'm not experienced in the game so I couldn't really give you much advices

empty ferry
#

i really like nectar giving levels

#

but they are pretty rare

umbral frost
#

and also because I'm still at the beginning of the game taking keys to unlock new stuff was always a good pick

gleaming crane
#

Nectars are too rare for it to be that worth getting. I'd recommend keys, then darkness (it's still a fifth of a heart, pretty good), then gems and finally nectar.

wispy lodge
#

Mh, ok, makes sense

#

and what does "alter reward" mean?

umbral frost
#

you reroll the room reward

gleaming crane
#

See the doors with a reward preview? You can reroll that.

umbral frost
#

by pressing RT on a controller before entering

wispy lodge
#

Oh, that sounds really useful

umbral frost
#

it depends a lot on rng but it's nice when you don't want something

gleaming crane
#

With one limitation, you can only reroll blue laurel rewards into blue laurel rewards, same with gold laurels.

wispy lodge
#

Cool, thanks for the info!

cursive steppe
#

@gleaming crane why does it say "Temporary" for golds?

gleaming crane
#

Because those resources are temporary. Once your run is over, they're gone.

#

The permanent ones you keep after your run.

cursive steppe
#

Oh, run-wise. Thanks!

wispy lodge
#

Wait, only 2 Hermes boons per run? Really?

#

I mean, I get it, they're really powerful, but it seems a bit weird

cursive steppe
#
  • the final shop
drifting meteor
#

you can only get 2 hammers per run as well

#

iirc

#

you're guarenteed 1 in tartaurus, and 1 in elysium. if you miss one in elysium it has a chance to appear in styx.

#

thats at least my experience, so if anyone has info that contradicts that

#

then let me know

wispy lodge
#

Also, wow, the butterfly is amazing

gleaming crane
#

If you skip a hammer, it's gonna appear in the next biome.

#

In my last run, I actually skipped the hammer in Tartarus, then in Asphodel, and got two hammers in Elysium.

#

The first one starts appearing in Tartarus, the second one starts appearing in Elysium, but they'll keep appearing if you don't get them.

drifting meteor
#

so you still only get 2 per run, i just had the conditions wrong

#

||hephaestus' legendary boon drops a third||

wispy lodge
#

@drifting meteor Wait what? Is he in the game too?

tiny dust
#

fake news

drifting meteor
#

no, my uncle who works at supergiant

#

he told me that

#

he also told me if you no hit a run at max heat, then enter the konami code when you're killing hades, goku will start appearing as a boon slinger too

#

i thought that only happened if you failed to pick one up in elysium/tartarus

hexed smelt
#

you used to be able to get a third hammer in styx but it’s no longer possible

drifting meteor
#

that said, i had no clue you were only given 2 hermes boons per run

#

i should probably start prioritizing those then

hexed smelt
#

yup, you can buy a third from charon in styx but that’s it

drifting meteor
#

i find most of herme's boons are things i can live without.

#

his best ones imho are greatest reflex, greater evasion, and automatic recall

#

everything else ranges from "bareley noticeable" to "nice to have"

sleek obsidian
#

Multidash is lovely as well since it complements dash boons

drifting meteor
#

thats greatest reflex

sleek obsidian
#

Ah, sorry

drifting meteor
#

chaining dashes extends the dash's i frames

sleek obsidian
#

Mistook that for the dodge chance

#

Ooo good to know

drifting meteor
#

dodge chance is greater evasion

sleek obsidian
#

🤦‍♂️ lmao

drifting meteor
#

which "dodge 1 in 4 attacks" is pretty handy

sleek obsidian
#

Mhm

drifting meteor
#

like, obviously the better solution is "just don't get hit 4head"

#

but having that little safety net is nice when you do end up screwing up

sleek obsidian
#

Yeah there's a reason you get last stand and upgrade death defiance, you will get hit at least sometimes and all the safety nets you can get are useful

drifting meteor
#

i dont know if you play path of exile at all

#

but a huge concept in that game is "layering your defenses". if you get hit by an attack, then first it has to bypass your dodge chance. then it gets reduced by your % damage reduction. then it gets reduced by your flat damage reduction. then it takes chunks out of your shield. and then it's able to attack your health.

#

the more filters incoming damage has to pass, the more likely you are to survive it.

sleek obsidian
#

Ooo

drifting meteor
#

if you play dnd at all, a better example would be why spells that call for both an attack roll and a saving throw are bad.

sleek obsidian
#

Higher chance of failure?

drifting meteor
#

bingo

sleek obsidian
#

Very interesting

drifting meteor
#

also, does anyone have an answer for these:
does eating an attack with athena legendary activate revenge passives?
and
how does athena legendary interact with dodge chance?

sleek obsidian
#

I'd hope it goes through dodge chance first and then if it hits damages the shield
But I don't actually know, I only got that puppy once

drifting meteor
#

yeah, i'd hope that too. but it has weird interactions with acorn

#

so if you have both athena and acorn active, and get hit by an attack, it will both remove athena legendary and an acorn stack

#

and i havent had many opportunities to test that in the field

sleek obsidian
#

Yeah a sandbox like dong suggested would be useful

gleaming crane
#

Only thing I know is it goes through the acorn before the shield, alas.

sleek obsidian
#

Ooooof

#

That blows

#

Does your shield getting hit affect your butterfly?

drifting meteor
#

the wording of butterfly is explicitly taking damage

#

so it shouldn't

sleek obsidian
#

Okay, cool

drifting meteor
#

if it does, sg please fix

sleek obsidian
#

Yeah I never know anymore what is literal and what has some rules around it because I don't always notice how certain synergies work, like if Nourished Soul affects Last Stand or Quick Recovery since I'd really love it to (I know I already talked about it twice but it feels pertinent to the conversation I'm sorry)

drifting meteor
#

last stand is something i can test easy

#

quick recovery on the other hand just has so many variables in effect that i'd have no clue where to begin

sleek obsidian
#

Yeah it'd be tough to do a control run with that

empty ferry
#

Hades is like a card game in that wording is very important for players to make informed decisions

sleek obsidian
#

Mhm

#

Do you go for a bit of extra possible damage or something that could synergize with your build but might not? Wording is very crucial in making educated decisions

drifting meteor
#

generally i go with whatever keeps me alive

#

survivability > synergy > damage imho

sleek obsidian
#

Fair

empty ferry
#

ehhhhh

#

damage makes it take less time for fights to end, meaning less time for you to make mistakes and get hit

drifting meteor
#

yeah, but if you have 25% chance to dodge + 30% weaken + 30% damage reduction, then mistakes stop being a genuine threat to your run

#

ultimately, you have to find a balance, but it's better to look at a general heirarchy of needs. survivability is shelter, synergy is water, damage is food.

primal whale
#

Does evasion stack additively?

drifting meteor
#

sadly, only one source of evasion in the game

#

that i know of

#

resistance does tho

primal whale
#

I can think of 3 different things that give evasiob

drifting meteor
#

?

primal whale
#

The feather keepsake

#

I guess i mean dodge chance

drifting meteor
#

2 sources of evasion then

primal whale
#

And second wind

sly portal
#

Yeah basically boons and the Lambent Plume are it for the moment to my memory

primal whale
#

Which is amazinfg

sly portal
#

As in a Hermes perk? I thought it was called something else but I may just be a 4head

primal whale
#

Yeah the hermes boon

drifting meteor
#

okay, so i'm pretty sure they stack additively

#

because resistance does

sly portal
#

Oh yeah definitely

drifting meteor
#

im pretty sure it also has a cap

primal whale
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You can nearly get 100% evasion if you do well with the feather keep sake and manage to find greater evasion and second wind, as long as you keep up your call

sharp parcel
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resistance caps at 80%, dodge probably is, too

sly portal
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If it were multiplicatively, then that would mean you'd have a base dodge stat, which isn't the case

primal whale
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I'd imagine it would, but it'd be cool if they let us know that

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Ahh yeah that is logical

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Yeah true I didn't think about that

wispy lodge
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3rd time I get to Hades, always dying in phase 2

sly portal
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Thank Zep

sharp parcel
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what kills you?

wispy lodge
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My lack of hp

sly portal
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That is rough dude

sharp parcel
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ah

wispy lodge
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The first time I didn't know he had a phase 2, so I damage-boosted through the end of the 1st

sly portal
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that is the toughest part, but the best I managed was kill him faster than he can kill me

wispy lodge
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When he killed me, he had half a pixel of hp left

sly portal
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Shidddddd

primal whale
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I find picking up anything for survivability helps a lot

sly portal
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Yeah definitely

primal whale
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oh god, I just killed him with 12 hp left

wispy lodge
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The 2nd time I was just bad

primal whale
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You're using the sword?

sly portal
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I tend to try and secure my 2 debuffs first, and then focus on anything that will keep me a l i v e

primal whale
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I kinda forget what's unlocked earlier in the game

wispy lodge
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This time, instead, I only had 1 defiance left, so I decided to explore more of Styx hoping to get one more for 200. Ended up losing 3/4 of my hp in the process thanks to poison

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And still no defiance

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So, the fact that I managed to die during phase 2 just means I've improved

primal whale
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You'll keep improving

sly portal
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Yeah honestly abandoning Styx after getting the Satyr sack is my usual go, but yeah just practice man

primal whale
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Takes a few runs before getting down a proper build and enough sense in the build

sly portal
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I think it took me till my 4th or 5th

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And Minotaur hearts should always be a priority in my opinoin

primal whale
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Ill usually do that if i have confidence in my build as is, but its usually with full death defiance, and if im lucky, a nice boost from the cauldron

sly portal
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opinion, then obols, then the other things

wispy lodge
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I think I'll focus on prophecies and upgrades for now

sly portal
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Yeah, understandable honestly

primal whale
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Prophecies are great because they are permanent progress

sly portal
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Have you fully unlocked the mirror yet?

wispy lodge
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Also, I might just start a new game without hell mode. I just realised that I'm locked at 2500 darkness for the mirror, and it's really annoying

primal whale
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Haha well that is something

sly portal
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You have Hell mode on?? no wonder!

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Lol I'm bad so I went in on normal if I remember right

primal whale
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Walk before you run? I didn't even know hell mode was there until the game toldme

drifting meteor
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currently doing 16 heat runs atm

sly portal
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Oh

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oooohhhhh I get it now

primal whale
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I wonder if there will be any significance behind the little title they give you when you win, or when hades curses you at the very beginning

sly portal
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Okay yep yep yep

drifting meteor
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every time i add a new level of heat, my opinion of the bow gets worse and worse

primal whale
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What weapon and aspect

sly portal
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Hahaha, yeah the bow must be rooough

primal whale
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Just barely won with 11 heat just now with boq

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bow

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the stacking cast and doom on special was my only damage

drifting meteor
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no damage
no aoe
incredibly slow
incredibly stationary

livid cargo
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Bow is dash attack city

primal whale
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Well if you get big %damage and the triple shot or double shot, along with explosive shot, it can hit hard

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but its still lackluster

wispy lodge
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Oh, is there a max to Olympian Favour and God's Pride?

echo tundra
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Does anyone know if there is a "sweetpoint" for fishing?

drifting meteor
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the issue with bow is that you have to fly where other weapons can walk. it's super skill and positioning intensive but doesnt even come close to matching the damage of the rail or spear

echo tundra
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Like, can you get a Perfect catch or is any catch just as good as it is.

primal whale
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Ah, I was wondering that myself, but Im pretty sure its more of where the fish appears than how well u catch it

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Like I had one appear in chaos realm and it was worth a diamond I think

sleek obsidian
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All chaos fish are powerful

drifting meteor
echo tundra
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@wispy lodge Yeah, 50%/25%

primal whale
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And every other fish ive caught just give gems mostly

sleek obsidian
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Diamond, ambrosia and titan blood

drifting meteor
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tartarus + styx = gems
asphodel = keys
elysium = nectar
chaos = ambrosia/diamonds/blood

primal whale
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It would be cool if they added in a sweet spot for an extra bonus, like 5o% extra or something for the lower value resources, but anything crazy would be too good

wispy lodge
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@echo tundra Oh, so the final chances become 25%common/50%rare/25%epic? Or is it that rares have a 25% chance of becoming epics?

echo tundra
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Cool! I was just wondering if I was catching it too "quickly" :D
@wispy lodge I don't know if there is a specific conversion from Rares -> Epic, but... yeah, before my drive fried on me, I was mostly getting offered rares and epics with both of them maxed... Though, now that I'm trying to recall, I can't remember if it is 25/15... Damn my memory

primal whale
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I despise how many times I've stepped on a rake causing the handle to fatally strike me in the temple

drifting meteor
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lol soz games not finished xd

primal whale
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One of these days I'll look down

drifting meteor
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that's essentially what the current ending is

primal whale
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I like their cheeky humor acknowledging how its unfinished

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Can you imagine if there was 1 or 2 complete stages after the first equal in size

echo tundra
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I still love when Zag speaks to the Narrator.
"Keep your voice down!"

primal whale
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Secret final boss: the narrator

drifting meteor
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my theory: secret final boss is gonna be persephone

primal whale
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oof

drifting meteor
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you'll have to crawl into her uterus and kill her heart which is a bullet hell with really obnoxious patterns

wispy lodge
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Also, I guess that's mainly about personal preference, but does it make sense to invest in cosmetics instead of using gems to get keys etc?

primal whale
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jesus

echo tundra
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Secret secret final boss: The Player.

drifting meteor
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but im already a miserable enemy to be up against

primal whale
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I unlocked everything that keys were worth first

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Because cosmetics are fun but new content is much better

echo tundra
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Personal preference, now that I've started over, I go for Gems, now that I've unlocked all weapons and everything down to Rare and such.

wispy lodge
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Yeah of course

echo tundra
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Though, now that I've heard that there will be a new weapon, I might collect a moderate size of Keys for that time.

drifting meteor
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yeah, new weapon confirmed next update

primal whale
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I'd like if they interspersed game content into the unlockables after getting some cosmetic items instead of having it all up front

drifting meteor
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im personally fine with the big updates

primal whale
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oh sorry thats not what i meant

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I meant when you're buying stuff from the contractor

drifting meteor
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oh, sorry

signal geyser
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Hey hey, I recently got 10 titan blood from a bounty, but I'm quite rubbish at the game, so I wanted to ask some more experienced people what weapon aspects are worth investing into.

drifting meteor
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yeah, i think contractor progression is something they're still paying attention to and tuning

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hera aspect makes the bow usable by making it not stack with the bow

primal whale
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I like cosmetics and all but having more stuff to build towards keeps up my enjoyment of playing run after run

drifting meteor
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both sword aspects are pretty good

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hades aspect is fantastic

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hestia aspect has the highest damage potential in the game

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chaos and zagreus aspect are good

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havent touched zeus aspect

primal whale
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I found the sword cast build pretty good, or the critical chance increase one

signal geyser
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Interesting, thank you.

primal whale
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cant remember the aspect names

signal geyser
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I'm very surprised about Hera.

drifting meteor
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the bow is bad

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it'

signal geyser
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HUH

drifting meteor
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s exceptionally bad

signal geyser
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It used to be by far the best weapon in the game.

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But that was back in the Hydra days.

primal whale
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balancing is a rollercoaster

drifting meteor
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it literally has nothing going for it beyond range

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and even then, cast does that better

primal whale
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Im honestly more excited for expanded relationship options and dialogue

signal geyser
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I confess that I quite like it for the rhythm game aspect.

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But alright.

primal whale
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The gameplay is so solid already

drifting meteor
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i love the bow, bow was my favorite weapon in bastion

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i loved playing nomads/savages in pyre for power shots

primal whale
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I want to like the homing special arrows aspect

drifting meteor
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i think the power shot mechanic is one of supergiant's best innovations

primal whale
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but i literally end up changing my damage type mid run because it never works out

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ugh i hate i used literally. please excuse me

drifting meteor
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so i actually had chiron aspect
with poseidon on special
zeus/poseidon duo boon
zeus double strike chance boon
zeus double strike legendary

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and +4 special arrows

primal whale
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And it was still trash

drifting meteor
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you hecking bet

signal geyser
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frankly I wish they just changed bow special

primal whale
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haha the base damage is just not enough to be a main damage source

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its cool when you have hangover or something that stacks with each arrow

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but it just doesnt seem viable as your main attack

drifting meteor
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i thought since zeus bolts scaled independantally of bows, it would make up for the lackluster damage

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it doesnt

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tbqh i think bow special's best use is as a deflect bot

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or for clearing the screen of bullets

primal whale
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yeah, i think it can be okay as a secondary damage source, curse source, or reflect, but its not to be used for damage

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main damage

drifting meteor
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in all fairness

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neither is bow's basic attack

primal whale
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I know 😦

wispy lodge
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The time I was 1hp away from defeating Hades was with the bow. Got the triple shot + explosive shot combo

primal whale
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I had 3 death defiance, the death defiance keepsake, not too bad boons, and beat hades with 12 hp left, no death defiances

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heat 11

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like 300 health, 25% evasion, second wind

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there is just no damage

drifting meteor
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yeah, again

primal whale
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I had the stack cast aspect

drifting meteor
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hera aspect makes bow usable because it makes your main source of damage not be your bow

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you just have to get good artemis boons

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and good hermes boons

primal whale
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Yeah, I also didnt get a single chaos room the whole run which was a bummer

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But regardless, I was only doing damage by stacking curse and then a triple cast shot

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and then running into him with poseidon call

drifting meteor
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generally the dream is:

Fast cast from hermes
Auto recall from hermes
Artemis Cast
+3 bloodstones
Exit Wounds
Poseidon/Aphrodite basic attack
Athena Dash/Special
Any chaos cast buff

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the reality is none of that and 20 dionysus boons

primal whale
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hah

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and useless hammers

drifting meteor
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You can basically 2 shot hades with that setup

echo tundra
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Reason why I asked, (with perfect catch) was because I noticed that it said so in the gameplay trailer for The Long Winter update :D
But thanks for satisfying my curiousity.

drifting meteor
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4 shot if you're unlucky with crits

primal whale
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Again, I'd love to see a practice arena where you can actually just try all of this out for fun

drifting meteor
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i think that the arena would take away a lot of the fun of the base game

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because a lot of the fun is in the discovery of these synergies

primal whale
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Well it would be optional

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If you can have the self restraint to not use it, it wouldn't affect you

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I just like options

split mauve
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like if I want to see a synergy
I feel like I should just try for it in a run

primal whale
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I agree it is fun doing that on your own, but I think an optional arena to test things out couldn't hurt incase you don't want to commit 30-45 min testing something

split mauve
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yeah makes sense

primal whale
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However, having people here having a wealth of knowledge and sage wisdom is kinda cool

tiny dust
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@drifting meteor you're crazy, that full build poseidon/zeus duo on chiron is really strong

sleek obsidian
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Either an arena or checking all the wording is as literal as possible

primal whale
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Yeah, I think creating a practice arena would just be easier for the devs. It would lead to an accurate and comprehensive wiki

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and up to date

drifting meteor
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yeah, it would be strong

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if it were on the rail

brisk trail
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bruh
the Demeter Legendary works on bosses!?

tiny dust
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yes

brisk trail
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nice

primal whale
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Is there any significance to the little message and title that hade's gives you at the beginning of some runs?

tiny dust
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drama

amber garden
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Story

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I normally bounce off roguelikes pretty quick, but the story keeps me coming back.

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And yeah Demeter legendary is legit. I was confused why bosses were dying early lol.

serene obsidian
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Demeter is the new boss killer

primal whale
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Rail with aspect of Hestia, piercing fire and hunter dash has made for a very easy first biome

sleek obsidian
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Glad to know the wiki showcases what boons require what boons in terms of rarity progression

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Winter Harvest requires either Killing Freeze or Arctic Blast which both require either Frost Strike, Frost Flourish, Mistral Dash or Demeter's Aid

proven rock
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I wonder what the design choice was to have Poseidon be the one to give the assortment of crystals, darkness, and health. I would've thought that'd be Demeter or Dionysus

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hm

sleek obsidian
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Maybe because you collect seashells and glass shards at the beach? No idea

amber garden
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Sunken treasure

sleek obsidian
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oh yeah that

proven rock
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oh

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huh

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maybe i should read

timid vector
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Is this the right channel for general gameplay tips?

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I've played hades since before asphodel existed, though took a few-months-long break after they added asphodel

gleaming crane
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As long as there's no spoilers involved, sure, you can ask here, as #h1-builds-and-combat can have spoilers.

timid vector
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I'm finding I can consistently reach the sewer biome, but probably only succeed to the final boss half the time, and lose to the final boss most times

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of about 35 runs since I reinstalled, I have beaten the final boss twice

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so I'm not a beginner, but I don't feel like I have much methodology to improve, or bases to make good decisions

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another roguelite that I love, Slay The Spire, I played similarly badly until I watched some Jorbs videos explaining the underlying methodology

gleaming crane
timid vector
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👍 will continue there @gleaming crane

sand stump
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How do you give Nectar to an Olympic god?

hexed smelt
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you can give it to them before accepting their boon

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but not in a trial or in the shop, unfortunately

sand stump
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I try pushing RT but nothing happen

split mauve
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you have nectar?

gleaming crane
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You also can't do it if it's the very first boon of theirs you find, ever.

delicate arrow
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Itm, I have around 10 nectar and have still never given any nectar to athena

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She's the only person i haven't given nectar to

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And I'm 30 hours in X)

amber garden
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Lol

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Poor athena

delicate arrow
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I really can't stand her boons

amber garden
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Dodge reflect is good

delicate arrow
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Absolutely useless, apart from her god gauge boosts