is there a way of seeing your current boons while choosing a new one currently? Not in game atm and can't check
#h1-discussion
round gulch
static wadi
no(
hexed smelt
the usual key to bring up boon info still works
round gulch
ah so you can at least see the icons?
round gulch
cheers
main gorge
do i have to keep changing the drapery in the house contractor to progress for more options ? or does that cycle every run ?
mellow cloak
@main gorge i think its just repeatable with no end.
main gorge
thought so, thanks !
ember mountain
Ay :> I think it's just a waiting game for something else to pop up
hexed smelt
from what i've noticed, they seem to change after every run
or it certainly seems that way
"ooh, i have 3 diamonds now, time to buy the music i wante-- oh it's gone nevermind."
autumn lava
will the npcs always look like nyx in their 3D model ?
red coral
Some of them got various updates as the game developed! There probably won’t be a unique model for every character, but they’ll likely all have variations that make them easy to tell apart.
static wadi
i remeber Sizif looked like Charon
main gorge
I still can't believe this is an early access game, it feels so polished
ember mountain
It's only v0.2 And feels better than most Finished games.
It's stunning, specially in this time and age where people just -Yeet- games out to get some cash.
It's a nice breath of fresh air 
@static wadi https://gyazo.com/110dca4135a12570b879aae7cb647ef7
I did it 😄
static wadi
is it Zag aspect?
ember mountain
It's the.. Take less damage from the front thingy, if it's the item you're talking about
ember mountain
The bow thingy
ember mountain
Haven't done anything with it yet.
ember mountain
I think it's my 21'th Attempt, and I done diddly done did it.
static wadi
to carry anything
ember mountain
Yea, I noticed it was pretty solid..
red coral
I like to think I’m a perfectly average gamer... just mediocre enough to have a good time... anyways I’ve only won 4 times since the final boss was released 😅
oak knot
and here i thought all mods are masochists and have already maxed out Hades entry
burnt breach
it's not very important, just take whatever you like
I love my boy thanatos so I always use his keepsake even tho I barely get the bonus since I'm bad
brisk trail
You have Eris Aspect yet?
lone shoal
yeah was using it
brisk trail
NIceee.
static wadi
@lone shoal add support fire
lone shoal
да, ошибся
static wadi
13 пекла?
lone shoal
ну, вроде особо ничего не меняется
torpid vessel
@lone shoal I'd spoiler the boss name
lone shoal
sorry
paper ermine
@static wadi I have never seen a level 10 boon, especially heroic, nice job.
lone shoal
coarse junco
Flurry. Triple shot’s spread is too wide to be useful
You don’t want either of them though.
gleaming crane
Read the pins.
glossy dirge
wave anything is bad
ok tnx
hooray
merciful end is fun
dont think it works that well with dire misfortune tho lol
vocal fog
Is anyone aware if the Bow Special is working correctly with the Zeus Boon?
I'm doing a Chiron aspect run and I'm fairly certain that not all of my special's shots are throwing a lightning bolt.
midnight salmon
im so glad im not the only one who hates waves
i have a chronic problem accidentally getting hit by them
worthy canopy
@vocal fog all of them do the lightning damage last I played it
glossy dirge
not just getting hit but getting dragged along its path once you are
worthy canopy
You probably just aren't seeing the numbers and doubting it.base dmg is pretty low on them
toxic seal
Is it just me or is the game pretty easy up until Hades? I kinda wish the early levels and bosses were harder just so bad runs would get killed off earlier
edgy tendon
Feel like poseidon zeus duo is underrated
worthy canopy
Posiedon Zeus duo with posieden legendary 💦
glossy dirge
poseidoon zeus is only surpassed by artemis ares
edgy tendon
Had it on the rail with poseidon attack
worthy canopy
I don't like knockback on rail :')
edgy tendon
why tho
worthy canopy
Eh just not my thing I guess
edgy tendon
I mean people take it not for the dps
so i guess if you're looking for dps right off the bat it's not that interesting
glossy dirge
poseidon gives a lot of raw damage tho
vocal fog
@worthy canopy I wish there was a way to actually test on Skelly.
But since their current damage on my run is 75, and I'm with a maxed out Chiron bow, with the Daedalus upgrade for the Special, and Zeus's legendary, yeah, I'm doubting it's damage.
Especially since the damage doesn't seem all that much higher than when I just cast a non homing special and a only a few arrows hit.
Could be that i'm just missing something though, certainly.
candid pine
Is there any way to reset the titan to get other aspects? I got them all ( didn't beat the game so can't get any other sadly ) and I can't get the chiron bow 😦
glossy dirge
if you beat the final boss u get another one
candid pine
I've only gotten to the last biome 2 times and the labyrinth ends my run
well, the poison does.
edgy tendon
drink the mandrake wells
edgy tendon
they're not hard to see. you shouldn't lose to much health from poison alone
it's a problem when they stack
edgy tendon
That too
hexed smelt
read the pins in the feedback channel!
olive forge
still cant
winter stump
whats the easiest heat ordering?
brisk trail
@winter stump There's not really one in my opinion, but here's what I am doing, I check almost everything except the ones that sacrificing boons and the time limit.
winter stump
i did heat one with the incraease in shop costs but idk
olive forge
the stuff more expensive one
brisk trail
This can carry me easy up to Ex Hydra without problems, but usually at that point or in Elysium I am dying, have to git gud on that part.
I think what you can do without time limit is to take your sweet, sweet time and be patient.
lyric frigate
What does means heart with gold border and clock sign?
brisk trail
This is making it a bit easier.
Clock sign = will prob come out in the next future updates.
winter stump
Also i did my first clear with rail but then did a heat with the sword but i dont have a completion on heat 0 should i do that?
lyric frigate
thx
brisk trail
np
If you want to, you have to finish with the heat number to be saved.
||If you reach Hades with 45 maximum heat for example, and you die before killing him, you're gonna lose your heat score.||
winter stump
i mean i have completed heat 1
but not heat 0
i dont have the bounties for heat 0
winter stump
you need to give yourself a role
brisk trail
^
winter stump
go to bot commands chat and type ?rank Early Access
fresh orchidBOT
Please read the pinned messages in #hades-feedback before posting! Thank you for playing.
faint siren
brisk trail
#bot-commands and type this : ?rank Early Access @olive forge
tacit spoke
HOW DO I GET VENGEFUL MOOD
i have the ares revenge
the zeus revenge
even the athena revenge
and i get 3 zeus boons in a row
using all my fated authority
and NO DUO BOON TO BE FOUN
d
when i get multiple duo boons in other runs
vivid raven
flat vapor
||meg and thanatos won't fight hades, skelly and sisyphus is||
it makes sense story-wise
lost halo
I have a question: Does Supergiant Games plan to build on top of the base game? e.g. DLCs, big content updates, etc. which include new weapons/Gods/and so on
Kinda like the binding of isaac evolved throughout the years
brisk trail
@olive forge nyx and charon's portraits are placeholders, as mentioned in #hades-faq
potent egret
hermes legendaries are so hard tofind!
static wadi
i still need duo poseidon/dio again(
ember mountain
So, I've been trying to draw a character from Hades, But I'm not sure if it looks likeher too much.
static wadi
Ares Artemida still best
gl everyone
be strong and persistent
and you succeed
or not
potent egret
FINALLY FOUND RELATIVE SPEED!
gloomy marten
hi
can anyone tell me where to report bugs?
it isn't anything too bad , just one dialogue that's not voiced or maybe just a bug that makes it look that it hasn't been voiced?
the rest of the conversation had voiced dialogue
radiant tangle
If you press F10 in game, it should pop up a bug report window
gloomy marten
thanks ^_^
harsh plinth
I had every prophecy done except one hammer upgrade on the bow. Sunk about 20 runs into finding it only to find out that upgrade wasn't available for the aspect I was running on.
brisk trail
Piercing Barrage and Chiron?
mild root
I love how after the first successful run i managed to complete another run just after the first run 
edgy tendon
How it worked for me with the weapons
paper ermine
I'm honestly surprised that Zagreus isn't more mad when ||he beats his father and still has to go back, forever to repeat the same endless process of fighting him, possibly winning, and dying||.
bronze locust
Bruh
New to the game and why does it feel the sword is underwhelming
Compared to other weapons
mellow cloak
U just need to find the right combos for it.
bronze locust
I got the fast attack lighting and jolt one
But compared to other weapon combos its ok
humble pulsar
Mix your Special into your attack combos
Avoid using thrust if you need to be mobile as the thrust makes you pretty immobile and vulnerable
bronze locust
Like kiled last boss then tried spear and steamrolked
safe crow
Look at how quickly the microtramsactions feefback was shut down
bronze locust
Thr wut
glossy dirge
tfw u have exit wounds, quick reload and burst shot but gaem gives you hunter dash for your next artemis boon :/
big sad
couldve had 8 bloodstones
prime fiber
Is there a roadmap somewhere? I'm wondering if there's a plan to allow saving/continuing a run in progress.
deep spade
you can animation cancel the sword's third thrust attack with the special
and you can start the special animation, then cancel it with a dash, and the special attack will go off at the end of the dash
prime fiber
@glossy dirge Ahhh I just tried that; neat. I was worried that it would end the run
flat vapor
@prime fiber roadmap is in game, bottom right corner
hexed smelt
@prime fiber click this on the main menu!
or, uh, however many days it actually says, this is an old screenshot.
flat vapor
quit will save your progress, but give up will send you back to the house
brisk trail
18 days!
flat vapor
give up is shown as an option if you get hit in a room before it auto saves again
prime fiber
Awesome; thanks for the info. I remember seeing "Give Up" before so when I saw "Quit" I assumed it has the same functionality
flat vapor
👍
prime fiber
I love this game more than my wrists will let me play it 
vagrant token
is there a way to reset where you've put in your titan blood?
echo tangle
kb or controller? I can play it for like one and half hour until it hurts to spam X
ember mountain
I prefer controller! but do give them both a go
mortal palm
Sword combo can be done whole dashing. The timing is awful and it might be a bug, though.
unborn owl
i have a dumb question to ask
when are you able to gift someone ambrosia like ive gifted them enough nectar but it wont pop up
glossy thorn
You can only give it to some, and some are "quest" locked.
If it has the timer you can't, if it has the lock, you can, but you may have to do things first (either talking enough, starting a new run, or buying something from contractor).
unborn owl
oh i see thanks, ill just run through some more dialogue
split haven
do we know the full list of romanceables
glossy thorn
Skelly
proud seal
Can someone explain the ||minotaur|| fight? I keep blocking his attacks but I still take damage
glossy thorn
Just kill 'em
granite rapids
@proud seal he has a lot of sweeping attacks. i usually try to keep some distance and take attacks of opportunity
the shield does leave you exposed in the back
junior wave
Is there any way to see what Renovations I've paid for? And is there a way for me to see what weapons I've already earned Titan Blood for? I'm trying to remember what I've earned for which weapon, and since I can only earn Titan Blood once per weapon (that I know of), I want to get more Titan Blood where I can
tacit ledge
He's got a small charge, leap and 3 swing as his basic combos, he has a very wide arc but the only time he hits behind him is in the 3 hit combo when he swipes around him, otherwise just dodge behind him and hit him in the back, when you get used to his move set and see the 3 hit combo you can get a few hits in but should move before he does the final swipe. Its always good to wait for him to start an attack sequence then dive behind him and get some hits in
opaque nexus
No @vagrant token
tacit ledge
@junior wave when you beat hades for the first time you unlock a difficulty adjuster and you can see there which titan bloods you dont have
opaque nexus
You’ll have more than enough to get all the ones that aren’t trash later on though
opaque nexus
I’ve actually asked for a Titan blood respec that can only be done once per save but it didn’t get much traction
tacit ledge
You earn a lot later
junior wave
Ooph. I'm not good enough for that yet! I did make the mistake of using Titan Blood to get some Gems, so I'm down one more than I would have been otherwise
tacit ledge
You can get 2 per run, defeating hades gets a lot easier
opaque nexus
Post-game you get a lot
tacit ledge
Im like on a 13 streak now
Once you start getting the darkness upgrades that increase rare and epic drops
Your damage output becomes insane
junior wave
Do you get Titan Blood for each Fury? Because that might net me some more Blood if I cycle through some weapons for a few runs.
Yeah I'm working my way down the mirror currently!
opaque nexus
Watching Vinny play this game and it’s fun
tacit ledge
You get 1 titan blood per weapon per heat level on the fury and another for beating hades
junior wave
Each fury? Or do they all count as the same fury for the purposes of Titan Blood drops?
tacit ledge
They count as the same fury
opaque nexus
I suck at bow though
junior wave
Ahhhh, oh well.
tacit ledge
A good tip for trying to beat hades early is to try to get about 300 hp and have 2 revives
You can tank a decent amount then
junior wave
Same Cinder. Though if I get the rapid fire upgrade immediately? Then I do so much better
tacit ledge
So try to focus centaur hearts in your run if you can
Cerberus trinket helps with this
opaque nexus
Alternatively, you can get super high heat with one weapon
Alternatively, you can get super high heat with one weapon
tacit ledge
Max level its plus 50hp
junior wave
Prioritizing hearts over boons?
tacit ledge
Yeah, since you havent unlocked the heat scale yet
If you can get double boons go for it
But hades is beatable if you can get around 300 hp
Early stages
junior wave
I don't think I can win against Hades without boons. The minotaur? Easy. But Hades seems to be much more difficult.
junior wave
Fair point.
tacit ledge
U should prioritize it if you dont have 300 hp
Also cerberus trinkey
Trin*ket
It gives 50 hp max level
junior wave
I could start working on leveling up my trinkey for now then.
tacit ledge
Its very good to switch to during the last stretch if u used other trinkets to get certain boons
I like using god trinkets to get their boons if im doing certain builds then before going to styx temple switch to cerberus trinket for 50hp
junior wave
Wouldn't a 3rd revive be better than 50 hp though?
tacit ledge
Revives only return you at half hp
Thevmore hp you have
The longer you have a life
You can upgrade in the mirror to have 3 lives tho
junior wave
I just did the math. Apparently at 200 hp, a 3rd revive or 50 hp results in the exact same total number of hp overall. Spooky.
brisk trail
It's like 150+50 which is your base if I am not mistaken (?)
tacit ledge
Maybe I just prefer health since its easier to recover than a life
3 lives and 300 hp is enough to beat hades even if you got bad boons
brisk trail
^This is true.
tacit ledge
Had a bad run on heat 3 with hera aspect and still beat him
Tried to get the blade seeker duo combo of ares and artemis
But couldnt get the duo boon
junior wave
Ares and Artemis is the wooooorst to fight against
tacit ledge
Their duo boon on the hera aspect is disgusting, you can melt a boss in seconds
junior wave
Artemis legitimately sounds like a loner with a schoolgirl crush that's a few marbles shy of going yandere on your ass.
Oh whoops, I'm forgetting duo =/= two boons in one room
junior wave
I've found a duo exactly once in this playthrough, though way back when the game first was released, I found two
tacit ledge
The artemis ares one makes your blade spin casts seek foes
glossy thorn
I like her quail on her bow.
brisk trail
I like the duo boons. Would like to get an item to increase their spawn possibility in the future or something.
junior wave
I like how even the other gods are all "Yeah Artemis doesn't like mortals or gods but she's super into you for some reason."
tacit ledge
You can kind of force them to happen if you use god trinkets and go for their respective gods' boons
Like only picking ares and artemis boons, if they're available, the game increases your odds of getting a duo boon
brisk trail
Have you run a test on this?
tacit ledge
But sometimes their boons just dont show up 
junior wave
Does every god have a duo boon with another? Or is it only specific pairings?
brisk trail
I think their pairing might be random and very close to what Jellybean just said.
Pick a God, pick another, keep picking these two only when / if you got the chance, and a duo might come up.
tacit ledge
There are only 14 duo boons total
But some boons need certain boons to be picked first or they wont show up
brisk trail
I've seen duos from Poseidon and Zeus, and Artemis and Athena before.
junior wave
Looking at the wiki, it's super dependent one which boon you pick first
tacit ledge
Iike hades aretmis boon wont show up if you dont have ares blade spin
Cuz it works with his blade spin
brisk trail
This is interesting.
junior wave
Slicing Shot apparently only offers one duo boon, for example
tacit ledge
Pointless to show up if you dont have it
glossy thorn
The wiki tells you what prereq's you need for what boons.
tacit ledge
Its same with poseidon and zeus boons that trigger on lightning or knockback effects, they wont appear if you dont have a lighting or knockback effect
Also ares and dio's doom and poison, their upgrade boons wont appear if you dont have the base ones
junior wave
Are you sure? I had a knockback effect one and I had no knockback boons.
tacit ledge
Makes sense really
glossy thorn
The Dio/Zeus boon requires Festive Fog, as do a couple of Dio's others, took me forever to get those.
tacit ledge
Had any poseidon boons? Cuz all his damage boons do knockback
junior wave
No, that was my only Poseidon one. I never triggered the effect, no matter what attack I did.
glossy thorn
You can go crazy on the last floor if you get a bunch of knockback stuff, and the one where when you knock an enemy into a wall it causes a blast, that also knocks back, and chains into infinity in the small Styx temple rooms.
It's not that great with bosses though.
junior wave
I never choose Aphrodite's Call because it does nothing for bosses, from what I understand.
In fact, most of my choices involve "Can I beat a boss with this?"
junior wave
That does -damage-? I thought that was just a weird wording to describe its gauge
tacit ledge
Aphrodite stops them from attacking for a few secs
And it does a bit of damage I think, not sure
glossy thorn
Yeah, only the Greater though, 2500.
junior wave
Oh hot damn. I'll try that next time then!
glossy thorn
Careful about phases though, their invincibility will eat the projectile, like Artemis'
tacit ledge
Its great seeing hades just stand there and letting me hit him for like 3 secs while hearts float around his head
junior wave
Finally giving his son the love he deserves
Still kind of iffy on the "son" part though. Like, it already departs from mythology... And then there's the fact that the birth mother remembers her dog, but not her newborn?
Something to be answered in the future, I suppose
hexed smelt
cough cough this is the discussion channel please don't talk about that here cough cough
or gameplay
junior wave
That's the beginning of the game though, and any mythology stuff is outside of the game. Is that really spoilery? I'm pretty sure what I just mentioned is the extent of what the game reveals for now.
If "spoilers" is also the general plot thing, then sure I'll reserve my comments for that channel
hexed smelt
the identity of the final boss is also considered spoilers
tacit ledge
But its the title and quite obvious xD
glossy thorn
I feel like real mythology is only (possibly) slightly more spoilery for this game than it is for God of War.
tacit ledge
Its more like they used the lore for insperation and wrote their own stuff
junior wave
Plus like.... isn't everything in the game a spoiler? The gods? The Trinkets? I don't know what people would discuss here if they can't use names for things.
They definitely have. Anyone with some knowledge of mythology will know how different the game is very quickly.
pallid zodiac
Where Can I get the mp3 of Eurydice song? I love it. 🙂
junior wave
Which I like. Some of it is 100% on the money, but there's a lot of stuff that involves some artistic license, and they've added nice flavor to the various mythological figures
tacit ledge
@pallid zodiac good riddance duet is on spotify
If you want the solos you would probably have to wait for full soundtrack release
brisk trail
Growing up as a Greek in here, I know/remember most of the things and characters we see in Hades, but I can safely tell that the game is mostly an inspiration, as some things and some character designs are way different than the usual/customs we had here in Greece. If someone knows the lore REALLY well in the Ancient Greece and about our Dodekatheo - Δωδεκάθεο - then, yeah, that someone would know what to expect give or take, but the game is very fresh, don't worry.
opaque nexus
So it’s like kid icarus basically
odd bramble
This game is like "the cyclops helped the titans" so yeah, just disregarding the originals
opaque nexus
Hades in uprising is better than hades in this game don’t @ me
wind rivet
I went to athens for 2 weeks for a greek military history class and the impression I got from museuems and sites was that if it was really accurate there would be a lot more male nudity
brisk trail
Nudity is the least of the accuracy custom, but yeah, lol.
I doubt a dev would aim for nudity even if it was the actual and only main thing in the history.
brisk trail
The game's really good to be honest.
wind rivet
It was one of the reasons I picked up the game
brisk trail
True, that's true.
I also liked the art in actually, almost anything.
Except Hypnos, I guess?
He looks a bit weird. lol
wind rivet
I like him
brisk trail
He looks like Timon from Timon and Pumba from Lion King, but in a human form with hair.
wind rivet
He contrasts his brother a lot
brisk trail
Thanatos is just so amazing.
His outfit and style is good, his personality a bit tsundere but so far in a good dose.
wind rivet
Yeah the grim reaper inspired design is very good
hexed smelt
excellent taste
edgy tendon
This is one of the more aesthetically pleasing and story pleasing roguelike games I've picked up.
carmine grotto
Where would a question about extracting a functioning audio file from the VO.fsb go?
hexed smelt
it wouldn't go anywhere
steady pumice
I still want to pet Dusa
true fern
Anyone else having the doors after giving Cerberus the satyr stuff being drawn over Zag?
When he goes through them, the door that should be behind him ends up being drawn over him for me
I've tried pressing f10, but nothing happens. Not sure how that's supposed to work
hexed smelt
it should bring up the bug report window, although i've heard sometimes it gets brought up behind the game and you have to alt-tab over to it
true fern
Oh, that could be it
Another thing: The keepsakes feel kind of weirdly worded to me. The ones you get from the gods say "the next..." something, which doesn't make much sense for something that is supposed to be a passive effect
hexed smelt
that's because it.... affects the next boon you get, and then that portion of the effect goes away?
there's really no other way to word it
true fern
The next boon after what?
hexed smelt
after equipping the keepsake?
brisk trail
Sometimes I've noticed in the keepsakes that the hammer gets priority over them.
But that's it.
true fern
That's what it should say then
true fern
The keepsakes tend to describe the state you will enter after you've equipped it
Not an effect that will take effect the instant you equip it
Even after passing the first room, you still have a keepsake on you that says "the next boon" etc
But that isn't true any7mo6re
hexed smelt
have you checked?
true fern
oops, cat on keyboard
odd bramble
Um... "the next boon" means the first boon you find after equipping it. I don't understand the problem.
brisk trail
^And I think that's it, so, in my opinion, it might be a waste for the next few biomes until you change.
But it might give a good start if you get what you want/need for a run.
It really depends.
true fern
re: "have you checked":
My point is that whatever it says on the keepsake tends to hold true for all points in time when you carry it.
But those boon ones stand out
true fern
I guess it's just the dev in me that spotted a minor inconsistency, which may be by design, since it's supposed to be read by players anyway lol
sick escarp
How is inconsistent? It literally states the next boon you will acquire/encounter will be the corresponding keepsake?
Except for the daddy hammer, but that only appears to happen at the starting boon
brisk trail
It happens rarely in the starting room, usually we get the boon we want from the selected keepsake.
sick escarp
After you acquire said keepsake boon the following god’s boon have a higher chance of procing a better rarity?
hexed smelt
daedalus hammer isn't a boon
sick escarp
Yeah and often times I find it beneficial because the next room is the god you want so I kinda like it i hope its by design
hexed smelt
equipping a god keepsake just means that the next time the game gives you a god boon, it will be from that god (or hermes, but he's a speedy boy and can outrun the other gods and he doesn't use up the charge on the keepsake)
it doesn't guarantee that the next reward will be a boon
sick escarp
Yeah but I was under the impression the gos keepsake will override any sort of modulation.
hexed smelt
modulation?
anyway it doesn't say "the next reward you get will be a boon", it says "the next boon you find will be from [insert god here]"
brisk trail
I think by modulation, they meant probably main structure mechanic of the game's module.
sick escarp
Yeah poor choice of words, was making tea and popcorn lmao
mellow cloak
@true fern The keepsake will also have a # on it indicating the amount of times it can activate, therefore telling you when it happens.
on your boon screen*
hexed smelt
isn't it like a little twirly arrow?
carmine grotto
does anyone have "Olympus, I accept this message" in a suitable form for a notification tone? been trying to get it directly from the game files but its not been going well 
mellow cloak
It also has a number i believe
hexed smelt
oh wait the twirly arrow goes beside the number.
mellow cloak
yea lol
hexed smelt
i'll be honest i just totally blank out the number in my head
because i barely use the multi-charge keepsakes,
mellow cloak
I have all the keepsakes leveled up, only use like 2 of them outside gods.
sick escarp
I seem to use charons, then egg, maybe a god boon and then tooth if im playing horribly
inland sequoia
Why does Athena's skin have a gradient? I'm assuming it has something to do with her skin being made of actual bronze, but I'm not understanding the connection.
torpid vessel
I love how people use the feedback channel to give suggestions <_<
edgy tendon
wdym
torpid vessel
Just a lot of feedback posts aren't actual feedback about content in the game but, "It'd be nice if X was added. I wanna see Y in the game." There's of course feedback but its really jumbled up with nonsense.
serene obsidian
So.....going through and doing runs to finish some of the cheevos .....and taking boons i don't normally....the duo boon that makes Ares Cast home in on people is niiiiiiiiice
burnt breach
my favorite duo boon is zeus ares
cast your retribution attacks without being attacked
with athena's it's super strong
edgy tendon
I like poseidon and zeus tbh
Because the build into it is usually good too. I find it pretty safe.
torpid vessel
I kinda loath artemis builds now
I know if I get one I'll just breeze through the run, but I seem to get her boons all the time despite never using her keepsake
rustic swift
Does hades need a fast hdd or something to run smoothly? I get frequent stutters, especially when the auto save icon pops up after clearing a room
prisma cave
Finally finished the game! Had a 45% chance to dodge that went up to 90% after using my call! Basically just attacked my enemies without paying attention to their attacks.
hexed smelt
@prisma cave Congratulations! However, if you'd like to discuss the final boss, please either use spoiler tags or do so in #h1-builds-and-combat or #h1-story-discussion!
prisma cave
Woops :x Sorry and thank you
hexed smelt
(You can spoiler tag by putting || on either side of the thing you want to tag, just for the record)
split haven
speaking of hades performance, is there any file editing to change graphics at all?
gleaming gale
Hey I just learned about this game today. Couple quick Q's:
-
Even though it's rogue-like/lite does any progress "carry over" between runs? I hate the feeling of dying making it feel like a giant waste of time lol
-
I like games with a lot of meat to their gameplay, like complex systems/customization options (skill trees et al) How is that stuff in Hades?
flat vapor
there are permanent resources you can collect during runs that you can use for various upgrades and renovations
as for 2, there's a system where different olympians give you their boons that affect your abilities in their own unique ways (currently 8 separate olympians so far). each olympian has different tiers of boons that require prerequisite boons, and also boons that require prerequisite boons from two separate olympians
there are currently 5 separate weapons as well that play differently from each other, and combining weapons with the different gods makes for a pretty complex system
(plus, after a while, you can unlock ||weapon aspects, which change how the weapons themselves play. currently 3 aspects per weapon exist, with 4th aspects and a 6th weapon coming in the future.|| this also further increases the complexity of the game and is really fun)
gleaming gale
nice, sounds right up my alley. I'll probably buy it once Steam finishes processing a damn refund from another game >_> (Said it'll be "available within 3 hours" 3 hours ago 🙄 )
odd bramble
I'm well aware I'm in the minority on this subject but I feel much more progress when I go at it again with the same tools and do better, rather than being given stronger tools...
gleaming gale
yeah I like variety
Too much of the same makes me bored pretty quick haha
aight refund actually went through in time 👍
time foar install
ohhh, nice to see the game has full controller support
odd bramble
I'm the guy who wants everything unlocked from the start for me to sort through and figure out, but I understand why people want the game to give them more direction by holding back various things to give one at a time with measured choice. It's why I've said in the past that the only unlocks I really dislike are the extra health/healing ones, I don't really see a drawback to starting with those safety nets.
maiden matrix
does curse of pain (ares special) actually have the same icon as ares' aid (ares wrath), or is that an error on the wiki?
gleaming gale
@odd bramble It's not always about giving the player direction, I think...it's about preventing information overload. It's like a "gameplay presentation" thing. But yeah giving them direction/something to work toward is generally good for replayability 👍
I like sinking my teeth into complex systems all at once too (sometimes, depending on a couple factors) but I also like "milestone" rewards as I progress to give me that dopamine hit lol
fresh cliff
What would happen if Zagreus took a bath in Styx, would he become invincible?
lament tangle
He'll become the villain from that nic cage ghost rider movie
novel jacinth
Excuse me what schum
hardy drum
Because it would be very slightly broken
glossy dirge
But support fire procs for 2 times when you have burst shot so i thought it makes sense that it would also procc that time
safe spade
Are there any details about the next update? Mainly regarding the 6th weapon, or the 4th aspects for the existing 5?
novel jacinth
What does blitz disc do again?
fresh cliff
It should hone in enemies or something
strange agate
Zeus' aspect
fresh cliff
You throw out a permanent mini Aries blade
novel jacinth
Huh
fresh cliff
But it does nothing most of the time
novel jacinth
Never tried it
fresh cliff
It’s rubbish don’t
novel jacinth
I will eventually
strange agate
It does more damage than the base throw per tick and can proc specials decently, but using it is really awkward.
glossy dirge
It plays differently than regular shield
you have to recall it and make it chase you around enemies
novel jacinth
Chaos shield is prolly better
fresh cliff
The chaos aspect works so weirdly with Zeus, if you throw all 6 shields in someone’s face it doesn’t proc multiple bolts
novel jacinth
Would be to op
glossy dirge
chaos shield is the best weapon aspect in the game imo so its hard to be better than it lmao
fresh cliff
But it you have them return to you while hitting the enemy
It procs multiple bolts
Or if there is delay between the shields hitting the same enemy
fresh cliff
Also, it’s kind of weird how Poseidon-Zeus duo works on any knockback but Poseidon’s rupture and second wave only works on his own specific knock backs
my Aphrodite sword special was procing bolts and I was wondering why
But it doesn’t proc the rupture
novel jacinth
I really hope posiedon gets a large buff
Stuff like fixing that and letting him kill bosses
fresh cliff
Just increase the knockback and give bosses frames where they can’t be knocked back
novel jacinth
Na
fresh cliff
Like how bosses have invulnerability frames so you can’t oneshot them
fresh cliff
Wouldn’t it be too strong if you can just yeet a boss across the room though
fresh cliff
I swore I launched mobs across the room with sword
novel jacinth
Also no it wouldn't be even if you could
Bosses don't get launched as far as mobs in general?
fresh cliff
So are you saying increase the knockback or make it so they have no knockback resistance
Like other mobs
novel jacinth
Make it so you can kb bosses at all just a small bit also increase dmg
And apply all the kb effects like rupture and stuff
fresh cliff
It already works that way, it’s just that bosses get pushed back so little they have to be next to a wall for you to get wall bang damage
novel jacinth
Oh
I swear kb effects don't apply tho
Also increase po damage in general
Maybe give him 1 or 2 more really good boons
fickle mural
I have like 1200 unused darkness because I don't have enough keys to unlock the highest few perks and don't want to bother farming the keys
_>
glossy dirge
had a run with exagryph with poseidon on attack and shotgun + explosive shells
was yeeting final boss across the room
easily
probably helps that he's taking 6 bullets to the face every attack and I could continuously animation cancel with dash bc i got +3 extra dashes lmao
but yeah, my point is the push is fine on bosses and its strong enough on encounters that being a bit lacking against bosses is a good trade-off
novel jacinth
Na
That's a perfect build for that po definitely needs a dmg buff almost everyone I've talked to agrees
All I want is a dmg buff so he's usable against bosses
That build might have crazy kb but it's rare and only works with some rare boons
fickle mural
i don't think po needs a damage buff, i think he needs utility buff
for example, when you get the triple rocket on Exagryph, you can't take PO buff because enemies just get bounced out
it would be cool if there was a morph boon you could get that makes stuff succ instead of push
frigid radish
oh
I was about to ask
about zeus aspect
I found the best build for zeus aspect ended up being hybrid dionysus - zeus
flint jetty
Scintillating feast 🤤
frigid radish
zeus lightning procs on blitz
and if you get the
"explosion on shield return"
you can mash the special button
to proc not only zeus lightning from shield but explosion
so you get attack poison
zeus special
festive fog legendary zeus dionysus duo boon
and spam Q within fog
while keeping poison up
for extra 100% damage buff
don't know if there are any other good builds for zeus aspect tho
tardy apex
where do I apply weapon aspects?
short flicker
when you pick up a weapon in your room it leaves behind a glowing purple energy thing that you can interact with to add aspects
if you've gotten far enough in the game
I think unlocking every weapon is what does it
tardy apex
hmm
I picked up the blade again and now it says I get 20% more darkness?
is that it?
I thought you had to spend titan blood?
short flicker
in the empty space where you picked up your sword from there should be an energy thing to interact with
frigid radish
You unlock aspects with titan blood
short flicker
maybe you need to do a run or talk to the skeleton first
frigid radish
Ya the skeleton says something about it iirc
tardy apex
hmm
yeah I wanted to save up keys so I never bothered unlocking the gun/rifle thing whatever
and the shield seems like the best weapon considering the diversity of attacks AND the added protection
so I only ever play with shield lol
short flicker
yeah my first win was with the shield
frigid radish
My first win was with the sword lol
short flicker
I lost a bunch of games with the spear idk why I tried it so much it seems to be the worst one
frigid radish
I'm not a fan of spear either
short flicker
I think it was because my 2nd run ever I got explosive spear+posiedon and being new at the game that seemed very powerful to me and I kept trying to replicate it
prisma parrot
spear def worst weapon but going for charge attack build makes non boss rooms pretty easy
short flicker
spears the only one left now time to break my win streak
bitter valve
Spear is probably stronger than you guys think it is
fiery skiff
I was thinking about endgame economy and got an idea about nectar
What if we could get some special boon only if we gift nectar to this god (gift only affects current run)
strange ferry
I like that idea
novel jacinth
I kinda don't
Quick thing btw spear isn't the worst in fact id say personally it's #2 or 3
That's my opinion tho
odd bramble
I think Spear is better than Bow, because Spear has Flurry Thrust. Either way after getting to 6 Heat with Stygius, it was no sweat to do 0 Heat runs with Spear and Bow.
novel jacinth
Bow is worse and I say rail is worse maybe even sword but that's just me
bitter valve
Sword is by far the worst weapon
weak stag
spear is the 3rd best weapon behind shield and rail, in terms of high heat runs
and yeah sword is the worst
novel jacinth
Na
fiery skiff
Spear could be better if spin were more viable, idk
novel jacinth
Sword is fine
weak stag
lower heats you can run whatever and it's fine
bitter valve
It becomes more obvious when you crank up the difficulty
bitter valve
Well most of the time trying to get a spin attack in during combat is a bait
novel jacinth
Ya
bitter valve
Unless you really know what you are doing
novel jacinth
Spin attack should be shift and throw should be hold
fiery skiff
what
weak stag
spin attack in general is a bait
bitter valve
For example you can do an attack dash into another dash without letting attack go
weak stag
even with quick spin
bitter valve
Gives you a bit of time
tardy apex
can anyone explain Thanatos' (Death) mechanics?
novel jacinth
No
tardy apex
should I just try and attack everthing as fast as possible?
cause there are icons above enemies' heads
novel jacinth
Knock em out of his death circle if you can
novel jacinth
That's all I know
tardy apex
oh
bitter valve
Yeah
tardy apex
what happens in his death cirlce?
fiery skiff
Ignore if you don't have enough damage, otherwise just rush it
novel jacinth
Like the large ground death circle
bitter valve
Basically it is a contest to see who can kill more
fiery skiff
Death circle one shots enemies
novel jacinth
Ya
bitter valve
He is there to help
weak stag
if you can't win, it's a clear indicator you're lacking a lot of damage
novel jacinth
You can win without any boons
novel jacinth
On 0 heat atleast
weak stag
depends on the heat really
0 heat yeah it's fine
but higher it's a good way to check
novel jacinth
I haven't played higher lol
bitter valve
It doesn’t necessarily mean you lack damage, you just might be playing too safe as well
Either way it is definitely doable
novel jacinth
I don't play safe lol
bitter valve
It wasn’t directed at you lol
novel jacinth
I know
novel jacinth
What does that even mean
gray wind
I think I got like 35% dodge chance one run
Though I have trouble keeping the speedy clears in Elysium
novel jacinth
Spook can I have your pfp
gray wind
glossy dirge
elysium has a lot of those respawning foes you have to kill twice
which drags encounters a bit
gray wind
The one without the Santa hat broke in some way and Discord is not reading it properly for whatever reason but if you want I can send you the one with the hat
Yeah, the butterfly orbs are pretty tanky too
Though it's probably me not being good enough at those encounters yet
glossy dirge
I feel like the game has a desire sensor lmao
novel jacinth
Yes plz spook
glossy dirge
Have been gunning for ares special on chaos shield for 2 runs now but havent even encountered it even at lowest rarity
novel jacinth
Lol
weak stag
feelsaresspecialman
novel jacinth
There's a seed for that
glossy dirge
also game has decided to give me aphrodite at satyr pits when no previous aphrodite boons have been taken or have appeared all game long
I think if i was using any other weapon this run has long ended, but chaos aspect gud
slender zodiac
How many hours did yall take to beat final boss?
lament tangle
10-ish
brave nymph
Probably about 15-20
slender zodiac
I'm on my 13 right now
short flicker
it was my 13th run which I think was 7 or 8 hours in
brave nymph
a full 24 here
spiral karma
Technically about 1 year of playing, since he was only added recently xD
dark tusk
MFW you go into the feedback thread and see someone legit suggested paying real momey for resources DX
MFW you see not one single person has voted in favor of that XD
Also pretty sure now i can safely say none of my suggestions are the most downmvoted#
spiral karma
Yea lol I also panicked for a sec
lament tangle
+red orbs
brave nymph
I had a tonne of silly ideas while playing the game
like Vermin receiving a boost if you "Corner" them, to honour the adage about cornering a rat.
lament tangle
If you have Michael in your PC's username the vermin should have birthday hats
brave nymph
and a mail harpy to take Nectar or ambrosia to the harder to find NPCs and to bring back their reward 1 or 2 runs later just so you're not relying on RNG to be able to find the NPC and have Nectar and / or Ambrosia on hand.
And yeah, easter eggs based on your username would be cool
brave nymph
We use King nowadays
bronze locust
AH YES KING
brave nymph
but uh, honestly, the Aegis.
bronze locust
tbh i like the sword dispite being a tad underwhelming at start
But 3rd aspect pretty gud
lament tangle
The boon that turns dropped bloodstones into lightning turrets
It's so bad
But also so good
marble sphinx
do you guys think the new weapon will be added in the next update?
bronze locust
Hope we get
Fists
Litteraly fists
I wish to pumch
Punch my foed
Foes
Into submission
sour parcel
im a weirdo who likes spear the best
bronze locust
Spears nice
brave nymph
I wonder why they chose Daedalus instead of Hephaestus.
marble sphinx
hestia rail is excellent
sour parcel
wasnt it bcus Daedalus made the ruins or whatever there
bronze locust
Thats the buff one?
sour parcel
so theyre his tools
brave nymph
Well aye, that's the in game reason
marble sphinx
chaos shield seems kind of unreliable. i won a game with it but it never felt super good
bronze locust
Higher upgrades
brave nymph
I did. I thought the black aura thing meant that it could be upgraded, so I spent all of my titan's blood on its first aspect
marble sphinx
seeker bow seems like another one that needs upgrades to be good
i had a great seeker bow build with arti special, ruined it by swapping for zeus special though
bronze locust
Starting lvl 3 chaos sheilds pretty nasty
marble sphinx
on that run i also got the +4 special arrows on the first room, so it was a blessed run
marble sphinx
poseidon sword is actually great
marble sphinx
the crit sword i imagine would be really good as well if you get different statuses on special and attack
since you could get a combined crit/status build going pretty easily
bronze locust
Ye
Kings while we all know meta n such what keepsake do u like the most.
No judgement champs
marble sphinx
i used to go butterfly mostly, lately i've been using pinecone or myrmidon bracer
marble sphinx
i don't think i've tried plume once lol
marble sphinx
health in pots iirc
bronze locust
Ahh
deep spade
feather duster is health in pots
marble sphinx
oh no, i'm thinking of the feather duster
right
yeah i haven't been able to make the hermes one work at all tbh
deep spade
plume is like pierced butterfly but it gives you movement speed and dodge chance for going fast
marble sphinx
does the level up only improve the bonus or does it add extra time per room?
ah ok
bronze locust
Also spearhead is quite cheesy as well
marble sphinx
what's spearhead do again
bronze locust
When ur hit invulrable for 1.5
marble sphinx
oh yeah
only super useful against stuff like chariots or hades' death beam imo
time limits are always the thing i avoid the most in games lol
bronze locust
I bare the cosmic egg
Yolo
Though i wish chaos had some ahem more transformative
Boons
covert plover
one fear
slender zodiac
Ayy finaly beated him
short flicker
thats why I don't use the cosmic egg past the first biome
brave nymph
I've been levelling up the artefacts and then switching to skelly's tooth on the final cabinet, just in case.
short flicker
I was using skellys tooth on the final cabinet but the broken speartip saves me way more health than the tooth provides in the long run
brave nymph
I'm levelling in order and haven't gotten to spear yet.
ornate merlin
what does a clock on a heart mean? i have it on hades and aphrodite?
oak knot
it means the story hasn't been implemented yet
covert plover
Ah
ornate merlin
haha
covert plover
I don't think I could with Hades
covert plover
Well, I guess that could also be the answer to a question I asked in the spoilers channel. 🙂
oak knot
have faith in Hades
silver aurora
Any advice on using the gun? it's my worst weapon by far
ornate merlin
havent won one yet with it either 😦
need some good rng
im using the poison god atm doing pretty good
red coral
The base gun pairs well with Zeus and Dio!
You want low damage high frequency boosts for it
lament tangle
Specials are free
round gulch
on my first run with the rail, poison on special carried me to the last biome easy
sage nova
Has anybody found it to be impossible to get the Ares Legendary?
red coral
You need to have certain boons to unlock it
red coral
Keep trying! You got this!
covert plover
I think I got it once
zenith torrent
i keep forgetting to switch my keepsakes at the start of a run ughhhh
because i literally always use charon's at the start and skelly at the end of every single one, i end up wasting skelly and having to abandon the run half the time hehe
placid viper
How would guys feel about Kratos daggers being a weapon in this game?
Would probably be a bit tough to put in lore wise/copyright though
mellow cloak
I don't think you can copywrite a item specifically if it's part of religion / history as it free use. You just have to make it your own.
zenith torrent
don't know why it'd have to be specifically kratos' daggers. if they're part of greek mythology, then there's no problem.
to address the meat of the question though, a fast-hitting chain-knive weapon would be sufficiently different, at least
placid viper
Don't think Kratos weapons are part of greek myth, thought they just made it up for his game
zenith torrent
i would personally go for something very different
there's enough melee and range for my taste, so i'd go for something like placing traps or summoning something. something with a very different playstyle. but i don't have that strong an opinion on it.
hoary harbor
What about Hephaestus, Apollo, Hera, Hestia, Demeter????
zenith torrent
the geneology of greek myth is a mess anyway. i wonder how much of it they will adapt.
placid viper
I've seen some talk of ppeople wanting a scythe.
covert plover
Lemme borrow [REDACTED] scythe. he can have it back
zenith torrent
a scythe seems ok due to having the difference of relying on arc-like motions instead of linear hits.
red coral
@ornate merlin please spoiler tag or remove the identity of the final boss from your messages!
zenith torrent
still, i'd go for summons or something instead of cluttering the whole catalogue of weapons with melee
of course you can make melee-weapons very different, so it's not that big an issue.
just a matter of clever design.
placid viper
Yeah I guess we got aspects to shake things up
zenith torrent
hmm
anyway, i hope they design the keepsake cabinet's position / information as to which you have equipped to be more visible before a run
so i actually ever remember to switch them
zenith torrent
my death defiances, wasted continually.
red coral
Oof skull earring start is real 😔
lament tangle
maybe something that plays like V
so i can destroy every other button along with my spacebar
zenith torrent
gotta say though, there's basically no reason to ever pick anything but charon at the start of a run
it's way too much value compared to like "% chance of slightly better item"
red coral
squints in coinpurse
red coral
Noooo skull earring gang rise up
placid viper
If I want to try something or go for something I'll choose a god one
zenith torrent
...i thought skull earring was by skelly
placid viper
lol
gleaming crane
A god keepsake allows you to get a good start on your build. Then coin purse on Asphodel.
zenith torrent
ugh i cannot for the life of me remember whose they are
red coral
No it’s Meg!
zenith torrent
ughhhh
red coral
Skelly is the tooth
zenith torrent
wait isn't the tooth the one that gives an extra death defiance?
red coral
Yes
zenith torrent
which is exactly what i always use on last floor
because come on it'll get you like five lives for the last boss which is absurdly op
red coral
Ok then I stand by my “skull earring gang rise up” joke
gleaming crane
At higher heats, it's useless. Better take the acorn or spear point when enemies have boosted damage and boosted traps.
red coral
Acorn is real nice yeah
gleaming crane
Since tooth is 150 HP at its highest level and you're gonna take more than that from a jar with that trap damage.
zenith torrent
too much heat
placid viper
High heat levels spear point/skull earring for me
gleaming crane
I don't really see much use to spear point during final boss, as most attacks don't do continuous damage. It is good for Styx poison though.
red coral
Skull earring is great bc with enough death defies its basically free bonus damage for a whole health bar
placid viper
If I dont have athena dash or call the spear point helps with the beams
red coral
Truuuuuueeee thaaaat
gleaming crane
Beams are easy to hide from though. Nearly never get hit by them, so I'd rather take the acorn to protect from them bigger hits or yes, skull earring for bonus damage.
zenith torrent
i am bad at seeing the tell
so they eat like all my death defiances
i get stunlocked and then i'm dead
and the sprites that block the beams are a little difficult to judge where they end and where they begin
so i stand behind it, but the beam goes through it, because the literal game object is a different shape than the wall
oh i know. doesn't help if i'm very far from it though
thorny quiver
The worst that happens is you waste one death defiance, which is ok. I almost always end the fight with 1-2 to spare.
But if you are finding it hard try and bring skelly's trinket. It really helped me through the first few attempts.
zenith torrent
i always bring skelly's trinket in there.
and no, it's not that bad. i'm just saying that the little pillar has a sprite that doesn't really conform to the shape of the game object and lets beams through
thorny quiver
I saw that as well, and it's kinda annoying, but again the fight would be so easy otherwise.
weak stag
welp this is probably spoilers
thorny quiver
If anything, I think the complaint should be that the final fight is too easy. It becomes anti-climatic as the game progresses and it start being just annoying
(I deleted the spoiler)
zenith torrent
really, i'd say the REST of the game is too easy
the final boss to me, is fine
i basically never die anywhere BUT the final boss
thorny quiver
Isn't the Elysium boss fight much harder than the final one?
zenith torrent
on low levels of heat though
bronze locust
yay cleared game first time cause i forceds my self to be paitent last fight lmao
thorny quiver
Spear can be either broken or feel like a nerf weapon
thorny quiver
I found sword the hardest to beat the game with
You are kinda forced into either a crit build or a cast build, with the neptune version.
Other weapons give much more flexibility
ember mountain
The sword / shield are the ones I have the hardest time with. Specially the sword.
But I do like a challenge!
Keep it up
thorny quiver
Guys, what does it take to be able to post in the feedback section?
red coral
Read the pinned post in the feedback channel 
red coral
Nice nice
worthy canopy
6 blade rifts with rift legendary and homing rift
😩
whats better for cast builds posiedon sword or the bow
thorny quiver
@red coral thanks, kinda new to discord
red coral
Np np!
glossy dirge
@worthy canopy achilles spear
worthy canopy
wouldnt that suffer with bosses?
glossy dirge
Well, you def need artemis quick reload for it which makes it on par with bow for bosses
still 150% extra damage on your next two casts is pretty gucci since casts have a lot of raw damage
brisk trail
what is the difference between x64 and x86 hades
remote lily
x64 should works faster, difference in code for 64 bit cpus
ember mountain
@worthy canopy aayy gz
You done did kick a big baddie 
Was wondering, what Cast Boon do you people prefer?
glossy dirge
Ares
oak knot
Dio and Aphrodite
worthy canopy
whats the useless trinket
earn the first of skelly's prices
i got his companion thingy
oak knot
that's for heat run, 8 heat for the first reward
worthy canopy
ah
i see
i lost my titan blood to a bug
i reported it but ye
cast boon with cast builds i go
zeus
if not then dio/ares like em both
glossy dirge
Welp this run is finished lmao
i was shredding each head with one cast each
aaand now i have vicious cycle.
static wadi
Good evening guys
glossy dirge
Eyo
thorny quiver
I think Aphrodite's cast is op
It deals so much damage
Arthemis' can also be very good if you build around it, expecially with Neptune's sword.
gleaming crane
Damage is there to compensate for its less than stellar range and its spread. Most casts are pretty good. Only cast I don't like would be Zeus cast.