eh
#h1-discussion
teal terrace
i wish the bow was stronger
jagged bloom
think about the status
static wadi
ppl usually go with DIO
simple socket
Uh, Hera didn't work very well
static wadi
and ares
jagged bloom
potential
simple socket
You get 50 extra damage for 3 shots then it's back to basic again
brisk trail
Personally, I'm a fan of Artemis.
jagged bloom
same
brisk trail
nah, you get 150 bonus damage on a shot and 50% bonus damage afterwards
static wadi
2nd - u can charge all bloodstones in 1 shot
simple socket
Dio?
static wadi
yup
brisk trail
i like artemis' cast damage but the homing element is more of a downside
simple socket
Oh as in Dionysis?
static wadi
yeah
brisk trail
no, dio brando
simple socket
Ah ok
simple socket
I'll go on a bow run and see if this works then, it seems like base bow isn't too powerful
static wadi
it would be awesome
static wadi
chaos and artemis?
brisk trail
couldn't see ||hades|| in the smoke
artemis +3 casts and burst shot
i'd love to see it happen again with scintillating feast but that'll never happen
weren't you supposed to go to sleep a couple of hours ago?
brisk trail
ah dang, did the pipes freeze?
brisk trail
really annoying time of the year for that to happen
static wadi
if it was earlier
i could buy new
but now
idk what to do
mb i will have a shower at work
static wadi
why bowl in room doesnt say how many runs was succesful
brisk trail
great question tbh
jagged bloom
so with the way i'm currently playing without a hermes buff and just from the keepsake i should have a 46% dodge chance by the time i get to Hades
brisk trail
rad
jagged bloom
oof
jagged bloom
so there are 5 chambers in the satyr place?
static wadi
like barge
brisk trail
i think so, i don't see how you reach 70 rooms without counting them
brisk trail
but if it goes from 20 or sth to 5 it's a pretty huge difference yeah
static wadi
hermes* hermes trinket
brisk trail
imagine that, 60% dodge chance with the dodge boon from hermes and some dr from athena and aphro
the tankiest demigod the underworld has ever seen
jagged bloom
pretty good
ok, upon reading i can see why the hera thing is great, that faster drop time is a pretty nice upgrade
static wadi
what cast do u have
brisk trail
i mean on trash mobs you're just gonna one shot them anyway so it doesn't matter
jagged bloom
nothing
static wadi
@brisk trail achiles trinket and weak from aphro
brisk trail
but it does help on bosses
jagged bloom
ok
static wadi
so it's Zags granny?)
teal terrace
wildcard: it's actually zeus, the real zeus who has been stripped of his power and has been mindwiped by an insidious imposter, and now you must fight your way up mount Olympus to kill him and restore the natural balance
brisk trail
scary, right?
static wadi
y
its cute
hexed smelt
he's doing his best!!
he probably doesn't smile too much!
as someone who also struggles to have a Natural Normal Smile i relate strongly to this
static wadi
he looks like he want to rip out my lungs
hexed smelt
i would let him
brisk trail
oh my god
static wadi
i still want to belive
thats all this
is Hades plan
they are very similar
and besides
he still gives opportunities to escape
gaunt bane
what is now
static wadi
?
gaunt bane
oh i just wasn't sure what's hades' plan in this instance
gaunt bane
🤔 oh, i see... that the escape attempts are like training basically?
static wadi
mb
and he like final test
all his attitude
just push Zag
to continue
and after all
he made Achilles to train Zag right
he knows Zag use his weapon
he is like Tomatos maybe
but in his own way
Did you play Metro Exodus?
brisk trail
Hey, everyone. Any chance I can throw a suggestion to the suggestions channel? I don't have permission to talk there.
hexed smelt
We are locking the channel now and will re-open it if we have additional active requests for ideas.
brisk trail
Ahh
lol my bad sorry
#hades-feedback tho
Ah, lol I meant the feedback!
Sorry.
I am locked there.
check the pins!
brisk trail
that's.... pretty bad
static wadi
so it just 20 base dmg????
static wadi
big regret
lyric perch
Honestly I wish sword had some form of ranged. Right now it's just a friggin damage-taker.
lyric perch
Yeah, but that requires a hammer.
It would be nice to have it on base rather than the delayed nova
lyric perch
S p e a r
static wadi
good too
lyric perch
But again, Sword is a bit tresh
leaden charm
my plan for sword next time it comes up in rotation is either the "attack becomes quick swipes" hammer thing with dionysus attack and artemis shoot homing arrows on hit or the "attack becomes 90 damage big slash" with ares and stacking doom upgrades like i did with the spear
leaden charm
damn that sounds nice too
that's about how much my doom procs were hitting for with spear fully buffed
static wadi
playing with sword
poseidon aspect
time for final battle
stil has no cast at all
wish me luck
leaden charm
i never take cast upgrades i only use it for the bonus damage while it's embedded
brisk trail
gl, you'll need it
cast upgrades are nice tho
and mostly necessary on poseidon/hera
static wadi
easiest final battle in my life
lost only 100 hp
25 for 1 skull
35 with wave in 2nd phase
brisk trail
grats
ivory remnant
I'm a filthy scrub who uses god mode constantly, but I never use casts 
brisk trail
i either take a ton of damage against hades or basically none
brisk trail
sure is
brisk trail
poseidon aspect
ivory remnant
ah, right, forgot
ivory remnant
yep!
brisk trail
try bumping it up for the hydra and theseus fights next time, they're really fun
static wadi
now i met Meg she she will be alright
ivory remnant
ignore them. hydra extreme measures will continue to be the most brutal thing ever
brisk trail
and yeah sometimes you get 2 furies, sometimes 3
static wadi
i did Hydra once
ivory remnant
it is great. but also incredibly brutal
ivory remnant
honestly, i feel like the hydra is worse
teal terrace
i haven't tried EX Hydra, is he TRULY difficult or are ppl just bad at the fight?
if he is, why is he so much difficult than regular hydra?
other than the less advantageous positioning i suppose where he can reach you anywhere
brisk trail
In my case, so far, regular Hydra is okay-ish sometimes.
And with a good enough buildup I am faring well against it.
Haven't reached EX Hydra yet.
brisk trail
@teal terrace it's aight as long as you've got some dps, the main difficulty is how small the arena is meaning that most heads can hit you at any time if you're not moving and dodging
also the last phase gets an extra bonus but you'll have yo try it for yourself
teal terrace
in that case, it's nothing, i do my best work up close
brisk trail
much better fight than normal hydra overall
static wadi
at least u can hide
brisk trail
no
brisk trail
ah sure yeah
frankly the arena in the normal hydra fight is way too big
and makes the pacing terrible
imo
static wadi
i wish to know what ex elysium will be
teal terrace
which is harder, EX Hydra or middle management barge?
static wadi
ok gl i will sleep at least 2 hours before work
brisk trail
sleep well and gl in the morning
haughty raptor
both will yes
indigo mica
Nice
drifting meteor
ex hydra is the biggest difficulty spike from the base boss but thats only because normal hydra's kind of a pushover
shamefully enough with ex hydra the thing that damages me the most is the lava. kinda makes me want to take spearhead when i enter asphodel.
brisk trail
i don't think spearhead procs on lava hits
interacts the same way it does with poison if i'm not mistaken
drifting meteor
thought it procced from poison hits for some reason
guess its the initial satyr projectile thats proccing it
brisk trail
no, it procs when you get hit and that blocks the poison damage for a bit
but the poison ticks don't make it proc
it'd be absolutely busted otherwise
you'd just keep the poison on at all times and take 1dmg every 1.5 seconds without runnning the risk of getting hit by anyyhing else
drifting meteor
how long does poison last before wearing off naturally?
drifting meteor
ive been in situations where i cant get to a well in time and it wore off
although who knows i might be hallucinating again
brisk trail
aight, good to know
i always run to the nearest well so that hadn't happened to me yet
and seeing it not wear off after a room clear led me to believe that it just wouldn't
drifting meteor
yeah imho it should wear off once you get a room clear
also on the topic of poison, am i the only one who thinks rat puddles last twice as long as they have any right to?
drifting meteor
like, hades is not at its best when you're trapped in a corner by rat puddles while a snakestone fires lasers at a pillar.
just waiting for them to go away so you can kill an enemy that poses zero threat to you
brisk trail
if you double dash over it it doesn't poison you
i have a bigger issue with the room with a chasm where they can paint the floor green
drifting meteor
like i think the rat puddles as a mechanic is a fun idea. creates instant positioning challenges in tight rooms.
i just think that when they last for 3 entire aeons the novelty wears off a bit
brisk trail
i agree yh
drifting meteor
im reminded of spitter goo from l4d and how basically perfect that mechanic was
cuz the point of spitter goo wasn't to punish you for stepping in it, it was there to punish you for staying in it
the rat poison is very much something that punishes you from stepping in it
void nova
ah can we not post images in this server?
drifting meteor
dont think so i havent tried
brisk trail
gn all
simple socket
@static wadi you've convinced me, bow is good
3 more ammo from artemis, and full poseidon build -> easiest win I've ever had
pure birch
who else gifted hades to friends on steam 😛
void nova
lol a gold urn just spawned in the final boss battle 😅
alpine stratus
zag: hm maybe ill go back and buy someth-
||hades:|| WHATD YOU KILL ME FOR
devout plinth
he could buy floaties outside so he doesn’t immediately sink into a pool of blood every time he dies
alpine stratus
omg......ok hed still be dead tho
hed just be unable to revive kckxjf
when u want thanny to have to go fetch u in person
devout plinth
zagreus found dead in Miami
devout plinth
YEAH that’s a record!
fresh fractal
How do I advance the relationships with characters after a certain point? I have almost everyone stuck at this heart with a clock on it?
void nova
the clock means there's no further to go with it yet, i believe. gotta wait for future updates
fresh fractal
I figured it was something like that
oak knot
didn't know that at first so i kept talking to Artemis hoping it would unlock her story, turned out her story wasn't completed 
thick remnant
#ArtemisBestGrill
teal terrace
this line of thought leads me down a path i feel isn't appropriate for the discord
fresh fractal
not going beyond that, dw
brisk trail
Hammer upgrade that gives a auto strike with spear is v fun
Cause I never use the charge up thing
fresh fractal
the charge is honestly awful, in boss fights it's too slow to be of any use, and in the open field you'll only ever use it to break pots
brisk trail
Yep
fresh fractal
since you'll bee too busy dashing around dodging hits
brisk trail
Things where you have to stand still suck
drowsy fable
it's kinda like charge shot on bow
drowsy fable
which means it's potentially more useful when you realize that you can trigger the spin with a dash
fresh fractal
I honestly only use special build for spear, just get those massive crits with throw
I think I beat the final once with dash build
brisk trail
The only weapons I always have fun with base are shield and sword
The gun seems eh unless you have the triple bomb
I've got a sub-15 minute run with the rail.
fresh fractal
I see youve never had the gun with rapid fire + artemis assisting fire
brisk trail
I still have fun though
I like the sniper version
If you can consider it that I guess
fresh fractal
never gotten that, ive had the most variety of builds with the gun tho, poison build, shotgun build, bomber build, rapid fire build
brisk trail
The poison cast is nice
But when I really get a build going my screen feels so cluttered
fresh fractal
with the bow, I can barely make anything work really...the range is bad, the speed is bad, if you wanna make it faster, you need to sacrifice charge shot, but then you do almost no damage
brisk trail
The special is also kinda doo
fresh fractal
the only bow build ive managed to make work is extra arrows for the special and then just stack doom like mad
brisk trail
I wish for the swords 4th version (when ever it comes out) I want it to have different combo
fresh fractal
yeah, tried that once + piercing arrows, managed to clear rooms quickly, but boss fights were a nightmare
brisk trail
Thatd be a nice change of pace
brisk trail
It can be done.
fresh fractal
he gets in my face too fast while I am charging my shot
I'm not saying it cant be done
drifting meteor
its decently easy if you have enough damage stacked
drifting meteor
like, if you have an artemis attack and the double shot hammer upgrade, then hades just melts
fresh fractal
last bow run I got all the way to Theseus by onl using attack boon from artemis, I just couldnt get anymore gods, only got gems and poms as room rewards
the RNG is seriously bad some times
drifting meteor
yeah i had a sygian blade run rip recently somewhere around styx cuz rng refused to give me any boons or hearts
that and i took some hammer upgrades that made my weapon actively worse
brisk trail
I got the boom that gives a deflect after dodge and man it’s good
Don't take Double Nova.
drifting meteor
which fun fact: the sword has hammer upgrades that make it actively worse
fresh fractal
except for 2
special that armor breaks is awesome
and the double dash attack is awesome
drifting meteor
the weapon beam is pretty okay imho
brisk trail
I'd say the only hammer that makes a weapon worse is Double Nova, and that's just a tuning issue.
drifting meteor
would be better if it applied attack effects
brisk trail
The no knockback is actually kinda awesome.
fresh fractal
if you can get multi dash from hermes and deflect dodge from athena, all you basically do is dash around killing everything and you take no damage doing it
fresh fractal
I am actually betting on that being a potential weapon
drowsy fable
huh
fresh fractal
demeter?
drowsy fable
didn't even think of it that way
drifting meteor
grandma.
drowsy fable
aka ||zag's grandma||
brisk trail
All six weapons were used by the six gods in the Titanomachy.
fresh fractal
is that the new upcoming olympian?
brisk trail
Almost certainly.
fresh fractal
titanomancy huh? Ok then, I know whats coming next
drifting meteor
which sucks because i really wanted to see jen's takes on hera/hephaestus/apollo
here's hoping she posts concept art somewhere
brisk trail
I'm hoping for a scythe with Hephaestus Aspect turning it into a hammer.
fresh fractal
spin to win
fresh fractal
just say dual blades
hexed smelt
i want magic :c
drifting meteor
they were talking about adding a run and gun weapon in the making of series
fresh fractal
thats the rail
drifting meteor
well that ended up turning into the rail, but the initial idea of "move while shooting" was never realized
brisk trail
😔
odd bramble
Give Demeter a shotgun
fresh fractal
it does actually work very well, it shoots faster if oyu use it for dash attacking
hexed smelt
somewhere out there, there's a timeline where zag does indeed float while using the rail 
thick remnant
tried making an on hit rail run... ended up getting artemis special and triple bomb and turned into a special crit build
fresh fractal
yeah, I ended up making a triple rocket crit build
brisk trail
See, now do that with Swift Flourish and Rocket Bomb.
drifting meteor
ngl every rail run i touch turns into a special build
flat vapor
let's not forget that hestia was really out here shooting and bombing the titans
thick remnant
Where I actually got a decent attack build
fresh fractal
my current railgun build is poison build
with rapid fire
and overstacking with weakness
fresh fractal
basically, I release a bunch of shots, my clip is 30 ammo btw
and then I just go hide and wait until they all die
thick remnant
yeah i rarely get that upgrade where the rail gets more ammo and is more accurate
i got it like once and it was glorious
fresh fractal
yeah, my 2nd time too
thick remnant
30 shots that actually hit xD
fresh fractal
first time I got it, it didnt fit the build
thick remnant
wow i sunk 43 hours in hades in a week
thx steam... for telling me how much time i waste
drowsy fable
I got infinite ammo and poison on attack with rail but got careless pepehands
thick remnant
infinite ammo is very meh
reloading is not an easy mechanic sure but i got used to it after like 5 runs with the rail
always reload when u dash
and thats p much it xd
sleek reef
https://imgur.com/a/33gfIOX where do i go
thick remnant
through that wall
brisk trail
Losing out on Dash attack frames is a big DPS loss.
thick remnant
Talk to Eurydice
drowsy fable
it meant that I could focus entirely on dodging with dash... except that I got real complacent and stopped dodging
thick remnant
dash through the wall
brisk trail
Dash across the gap.
brisk trail
Quite.
thick remnant
cuz some info seems off
like companions say you use em per encounter not per escape
which would be incredibly overpowered
fresh fractal
One thing they need to do is rebalance poseidon boons
thick remnant
another poseidon nerf incoming? 
fresh fractal
wth
drowsy fable
oof
thick remnant
get blocked by the bot
brisk trail
Poseidon and Aphrodite need to trade damage values.
thick remnant
🅱️oom
fresh fractal
Absolute trash against bosses
cause bosses cant be knocked back...except Theseus
poseidon boons do no damage
fresh fractal
except rupture
drowsy fable
one of my favorite servers has a dynobot ban on the word xD and all variations
drowsy fable
people don't like pushback around here
fresh fractal
cant pushback hydra and atrius and the final boss
fresh fractal
Ive had the most fun in clearing mobs with poseidons boons
but boss fights are a nightmare
thick remnant
meh they're alright
fresh fractal
they need to change it so that they deal extra damage to unmovable enemies
like, not saying 3x damage like a wall knock
thick remnant
idk that feels like it'd ruin his "theme"
fresh fractal
but something
drowsy fable
his "theme" comes out pretty well against everything that isn't an immovable boss
I think giving him 150% damage against immovables wouldn't be too bad
fresh fractal
yet he boasts that his seas are the unstoppable force
yet cant do crap against bosses
so contradictory
fresh fractal
too much water in his ear canal
thick remnant
yeah he needs to get that checked
lyric zephyr
underwater he's fine, but once he gets ashore (vs hades) poseidon get booped
pretty accurate
thick remnant
I mean... my fastest time ever was with a poseidon spear build
so like..... poseidon's alright
fresh fractal
same here, my fastest time was with poseidon sword build, but deem were the boss fights long
also, had to use all 3 death defiances at the end
thick remnant
hmmmm not the case for me
fresh fractal
cause all I could do was use basic attacks do deal any damage
thick remnant
prolly boon difference
lyric zephyr
I had the option to switch to main weapon poison just before Hades. I was full poseidon build.
Didn't take it. got booped
thick remnant
what weapon tho
lyric zephyr
I was shield
thick remnant
bruv
lyric zephyr
en forgot i could block lamo
thick remnant
yeah like shield xD
lyric zephyr
I did not wanted to knmow that
fresh fractal
omg I have such a difficult choice, chaos, hammer or hermes
uncut thorn
Well that should get patched
thick remnant
Do you need the hammer upgrade?
fresh fractal
I could sure use the rocket launcher...if it has it
thick remnant
I'd take chaos usually unless the build needs the upgrade
fresh fractal
but I could also really use basic attack power up...if chaos has it
or I could really use dash upgrade...if hermes has it
drifting meteor
had a really terrible sword build that i had no chance at winning.
gave up and tried again.
still have my streak
thick remnant
my best streak was 2
fresh fractal
how do you give up O.O?
drowsy fable
you give up by hitting esc while a fight is going on
thick remnant
I think you can only give up when you have heat
drowsy fable
and then clicking "give up"
thick remnant
or maybe i only noticed it after having heat on runs
drowsy fable
nah, it's only keyed to whether zag is fighting or not
thick remnant
ah i see
drowsy fable
if you're not fighting, you'll get "quit"
fresh fractal
sigh what to choose, times like this I wish I could preview the boons......or save scum
thick remnant
still deciding?
fresh fractal
yeah
fresh fractal
poison basic, weakness special, rapid fire upgrade, max ammo, I already have the deal extra damage to weakened and also extra damage if you have multiple enemies poisoned
thick remnant
well the only thing you really need is either the more accurate rail upgrade or infinity chamber
else, just go with chaos
thick remnant
so you're already lucky xd
fresh fractal
you fire faster and more accurately +6 ammo
drowsy fable
you can keep your RNG seed by giving up
thick remnant
ye im not familiar with all names yet X)
fresh fractal
giving up does what exactly?
thick remnant
return to the courtyard last before u even started the run
fresh fractal
throw me back to homebase?
thick remnant
but u keep the RNG
drowsy fable
you go back to The House, but keep your initial RNG seed so that you'll see the same rooms again
toxic python
do you know where i can say some missing thing in hades like missing sentence in speech ?
thick remnant
feedback maybe
lyric zephyr
Keeps the rng? * Speedrun scum strats intensifies*
drowsy fable
yep.
toxic python
i will try thank you
thick remnant
no wait u should report it ingame wiht f10 cuz the feedback channel is as said...only for feedback @toxic python
drowsy fable
if you win you don't get to keep your seed though
toxic python
its not a bug either
thick remnant
i mean a missing sentence sounds like a small bug
toxic python
my game is in french
but sometimes they speak english
this doesnt bother but you know
thick remnant
Yeah just report it ingame
Its small but yeah, falls within the definition of a bug imo
toxic python
i cant there is way too many time where it happens
lyric zephyr
You can send them a Message with F10 and just give a few examples
thick remnant
idk how reporting bugs ingame works but if you you can mention that it happens multiple time while submitting one bug
lyric zephyr
they'll know what's up
thick remnant
yeah
toxic python
i will try ty guys
thick remnant
its either that or bug report
toxic python
i will do both 🙂
thick remnant
Okie dokie
toxic python
do i have to write the bug report message in english ?
lyric zephyr
it's allright Nova.
My top streak is also 2 👍
thick remnant
@toxic python I doubt that's the case but maybe write it in both?
just to be safe?
@lyric zephyr 
toxic python
okay
thick remnant
Only thing im proud of in hades so far is finishing a 4 heat run without any death defiances
drowsy fable
I'd imagine so
thick remnant
idk about the boons but yeah some info is definitely outdated
lyric zephyr
allright thanks
thick remnant
so i wouldnt be surprised
drowsy fable
that's kinda the purpose of wikis, so that when you notice that things are outdated, you go fix it
frigid dock
Uh oh
hexed smelt
please do not
brisk trail
lmaoooo
inland sequoia
There is a game I played where nobody updated the wiki, so everybody either asked about things on discord, or looked at the game's source code.
drowsy fable
I'm fairly certain that a game could expose an API that would allow a wiki to auto-update values (though not mechanics-changes)
I know that DotA 2 does
velvet umbra
Hi everyone now that I'm unlocked almost all skills, I think this game needs a Staff or Wand, something magic related, we have sword, spear, bow, shield, gun, we need something that fires magic blast, orbs, whatever, and I hope the last God is Apollo, maybe making him with fire elemental skills, this is something I miss in this game too, elemental dmg, yeah we have Zeus with lightning but nothing more. Well, thank u Supergiant Games, keep up the good work. Bye.
thick remnant
oooooooooo i like that
odd bramble
Isn't that what the Rail is
thick remnant
uhhhhh no? how is the rail a wand
wind rover
Say, this got me thinkin
Where'd they pull all the names for the weps from
Hexagryph is clearly custom made, but what about the others?
odd bramble
The Rail is a ranged weapon that favors "magic"/status boons like Zeus/Dionysus or you can play big fireball style. It just has a cooler aesthetic.
wind rover
Aegis is probably the most true-to-myth one of all
brisk trail
It's actually "Exagryph".
wind rover
Potato potato
uncut thorn
All the names but Aegis and Stygius seem to be made up
Coronacht, Varatha, Exagryph, even Stygius isn't the name of a weapon but is just latin for "stygian"
they've got a real knack for making fake greek-sounding names
wind rover
Sounds realistic enough though
And adds personality
Say uh
Why dont we have more emotes again?
We have room for at least 100 more
kind pollen
@pallid zodiac I think the thing you mentioned in the feedback channel is the dash attack for that weapon; every weapon has one but the attack isn’t really mentioned in the game much. I actually only figured out that it was a thing after seeing it mentioned in boons
brisk trail
foggy flame
thick remnant
imagine if all progress is wiped when the game releases...
pallid zodiac
Where do we mention bugs? I don't see a bug channel
uncut thorn
Report them ingame with f10 i think it was
brisk trail
Does the steam and epic version differ?
brisk trail
The game's really good.
oblique dust
It is. Seeing it revealed at the game awards last year was surreal as a Super Giant fan.
brisk trail
I usually do not like rogue games, at all, despised slay the spire and darkest dungeon and mistovia.
But this one really got my attention.,
After playing Transistor this was a must to try.
oblique dust
I'm more or less in that same boat.
brisk trail
What I don't like so far, is how costly the mirror abilities are + how little we can improve them for that cost.
I would prefer if we could reach maximum eventually or at least super close to that, like, instead of 50% I'd like 85%
Or 89%
80*
But yeah, I get that would have been broken.
Considering the God abilities.
uncut thorn
Think of the mirror abilities like a long-term goal
They seem costly now, but eventually you'll have all of them like they ain't even nothing
oblique dust
Yeah, after however many runs you won't even look at the mirror unless your trying to use less darkness.
uncut thorn
I think of them a little less like upgrades and a little more like fundamental game mechanics that get introduced to you slowly as you play
brisk trail
Darkness is not my problem, ironically, got lots, LOTS of it and upgraded some of my abs already.
But keys... lol
And Titan Blood, don't know in which weapon to spend besides sword.
oblique dust
Same thing. You'll get them eventually.
You don't lose progression. It only goes closer to full unlocks.
brisk trail
I wonder if with these abilities + what we get from gods If I can defeat you know who/what
True.
That's what I like.
The game is a very smart rogue, not the typical rogue that you lose once you start fresh again from scratch with 0 stuff
Just despise that. lol
At least Hades game knows what to put on 0 and what to keep in my opinion.
Which makes it a great game even for people new to rogues.
leaden charm
welp, screwed myself out of an extra titan's blood because i talked to cerberus before clearing the extra halls
lilac saddle
is there a way to game your current file hell mode or u have to make a new save and etc
oblique dust
Have to start new
mellow galleon
Hello guys. Is there any way to get back to the house other than by dying?
Sometimes I just wanna reset run with useless perks (not my playstyle) and start over
feral hornet
I think you can press start and press give up?
barren rune
^ You can hit give up
mellow galleon
🤔
barren rune
Mind you, it has to be in the middle of a room
If it's at the end or start of a room, you only have the option to quit (and save)
oak knot
Just intentionally take damage so the game gives you the give up option
barren rune
^^
mellow galleon
Haven't seen that option yet, but thanks. I'm going to look for it 😄
Good to know there's something like that
barren rune
Yeah. I wish there was a permanent give up button. Actually, hey, that's an idea. Throw it into #hades-feedback ? 😉
mellow galleon
Will do
barren rune
o7 thanks!
oak knot
Yeah kinda weird they didn't add that option from the beginning, it's not like people can missclick it cause the game asks you 2 times
mellow galleon
I found that option, guys, but it's kinda weird that if you decide to give up you lost everything you gain during the run. I mean I have to choose between giving up and loosing for eg. gemstones or standing on a trap for like 2 mins to die
barren rune
Yeah. At that point, it's just a hassle XD
drifting meteor
hera aspect + artemis cast = 😫👌💦
marble sphinx
if i get the hammer upgrade that boosts the sword's thrust, does that also apply to the dash attack or only the third combo hit?
spare citrus
proud orbit
@marble sphinx 3rd hit, not dash
marble sphinx
thanks
pulsar rampart
Anyone else encountered or know the cause for a CTD when fighting Theseus?
mossy crest
It feels so good to beat 32 heat
CTD?
Crash to Desktop?
I suppose you are doing the normal fight not the EX one right?
delicate arrow
uncut thorn
Chiron bow, you mean?
lean dome
i have [swift strike] (21% faster attack) and [flurry shot] (hold attack to shoot rapidly) on the bow. about to challenge cerberus floor. is [broken spearpoint] rank1 (after taking damage become imprevious for 0.5sec) insane here? using cerberus +50 max hp atm
brisk trail
it's good
start using it so you can rank it up
1.5s at max rank which is b u s t e d
lean dome
daaamn
gaunt ridge
so I brought Hades to friend's party
one of them was like; meet Poseidon in 3-4 runs
In a row
and He was spamming Tidal Wave everywhere lol
just one day and he already got more progress than me
"hey you got Poseidon/Zeus duo boon"
"nah, Tidal Wave"
lean dome
"then next boon you find will be from ___" keepsake effects do not work if you pick them at the middle room between floors?
latent folio
@lean dome it works, I usually use them after 1st region
regal schooner
feels a bit sporadic, the next boon keepsake effect
one run it worked as intended I think, and another one I didnt see any for the chosen gods boons heh
lean dome
yes that^
latent folio
I take whatever it give me on region 1, then see if there are available build for me to use those boon keepsake before region2
(in general, I check duo boons)
regal schooner
i grab the money boon on 1st, then just rotate things a bit to level up the keepsakes
latent folio
this keepsake guide is good
I think Chthonic Coin Purse→Bone Hourglass→Broken Spearpoint is very good path if you don't need boon keepsake
lean dome
will keep in mind! thanks!
latent folio
before droping hourglass, remember buying stuff on Well of Charon
usually you'll get those buff through entire region3
dense olive
does anyone know how to leave feedback?
latent folio
see pins
gray wind
I'm unsure if it's the intended behaviour but I found that Artemis' Suport Fire boon only fires an arrow once per attack regardless of how many enemies that one attack may hit.
I lined up enemies a couple of times for a multi-hit with the Spear's Special and Held attacks and it just fired once per attack. I thought I could get crafty and machinegun arrows at people, as the description made me think it was an arrow per hit.
It's being a lot of fun, though, the more I get into the game the more I enjoy it
torpid drum
Where is the roadmap for the game?
flat vapor
ingame, on the bottom right corner!
torpid drum
Oh cool I never tried to clicked that because I thought it was just saying when the next patch was. Thanks!
gray wind
Oh, nice. Didn't know they had a roadmap in game too, that's real handy
I think I might need a better strategy for the Hydra than just trying to kill it before I die, if I don't get a Deflect boon I can end up pretty overwhelmed by projectiles
lapis wave
guys greater haste from Hermes is really EPIC. Gives 40% speed boost perma. And you literally can dodge everything with only walking 😄
hexed smelt
i love greater haste but hoo boy when you die and get sent back
there's always that moment of "why am i so SLOW UGH-- oh wait, right"
lapis wave
true
spare token
Take it a step further and take a Chaos boon that reduces your speed in your next run...
lapis wave
tried that before.. such pain
lean dome
where can i be embarassed that i never checked boons that replace a boon i already have? i just realized that they keep the level of the boon they replace, which changes things
brisk trail
replacing boons is often v good yes
gray wind
Yeah, there's nothing like the sheer satisfaction of going fast
That other boon that doubles your speed for half a second after a dash is really fun too
hexed smelt
personally i hate that one
do you know how many times i've yeeted myself directly into lava because of it
too many
oblique dust
Yeah... the increased speed after dash did more harm than good for me for sure.
proper zodiac
flat vapor
next update is january, the exact countdown is ingame
spare token
The next update is coming up in 24 days
remote lily
January 21
spare token
Wait what?
remote lily
average every 2 month in the Early access
mellow cloak
I built the worst build today................... haha Sword + Reduced range double special + Poseidon special knock away. HAHAHA WORST THING EVER, the first smash knocks them away and the 2nd hit cant reach cause its so small!
static wadi
Good Evening people
misty meteor
hi
static wadi
@mellow cloak i had rail with poseidon special
and triple special upgrade
first special knocked out enemies and 2nd and 3rd just did no dmg
mellow cloak
HAhha
mental crow
hey guys, what is the best way to get titan blood if you killed the sisters with every weapon once ? is there another way to get titan blood exepct from trading and buying in chamerons shop ?
static wadi
@mental crow there are 3 way
1st - kill first and last boss
2nd - last charon
3rd - broker
actuially there is 4th
but it's fated list
vale kite
the furies and the final boss both drop titan blood, and sometimes charon's shop in the final biome might sell some for 1,5k coins
mental crow
but the furiens don't always drop blood ?!
mellow cloak
@white there is more ways later that are spoilers, keep playing and you'll be able to acquire more.
vale kite
only the first time you beat them
static wadi
@mental crow i see u didnt beat final?
vale kite
you'll find more ways to get more later
static wadi
when u kill final u will get more options to get blood from furies
vale kite
spoilers
mental crow
sorry....
static wadi
what spoiler?
void vigil
this is best discussed in #h1-builds-and-combat for these reasons, such spoilers are allowed there
final boss spoilers
static wadi
wel there is not a big spoiler - there is final boss in game
void vigil
of course, but we try not to discuss who it is here, so people can discover it for themselves when playing the game :>
mental crow
me
remote lily
https://imgur.com/gNPPUCn
6th Weapon almost confirmed as it 'should' drop next patch after the upcoming one
vale drift
I shouldn't have said more than the Development Roadmap here, which is that we will have a brand-new weapon "later". There's always a chance our longer-term plans change, and this type of 'should' statement, while not a promise, ends up sounding like a promise. Sorry about that. I'll clarify on Twitter.
lean dome
im pretty sure this tweet was a blood pact and you cannot take it back now
gleaming timber
Don't worry about it Greg, as long as you do well we can wait until it's ready. If it takes more time we are sure the next weapon will be awesome
gray wind
I'm pretty sure they won't hold it against you people if the weapon can't make it until a later patch or whenever. Better to take your time and deliver quality than rush things
lean dome
@static wadi he confirmed in a tweet that the next weapon will come after january (2 patches from now), but this is not 100% certain since it's too far from now
vale drift
@static wadi We can confirm we're working on a sixth weapon for the game, but can't say when it will be added just yet.
static wadi
ah ok
I will wait long enough
I guess you can never be 100% sure in such far things
so we know 2 things now
gray wind
We all know the sixth weapon should be Atlas-tier Zagreus carrying the Earth on his shoulders 
static wadi
6th weapon should be
6th weapon wont be in next patch
all other things are mystery
gleaming timber
Well we get a new olympian
static wadi
any ideas btw?
gray wind
You mean serious ideas for the next weapon?
The Nemean Lion gauntlets seem like a pretty legit idea, tbh. I'm a bit rusty on my Greek mythology but that's an easy one to see happening
Plus, fist weapons tend to be fun
That too
gray wind
Ah
gleaming timber
Hera maybe?
oblique dust
We do have a silhouette of them.
gleaming timber
But the most important thing we don't have: the name of the update
lean dome
what about "peepee poopoo"
gleaming timber
I suggest
The GREG update
(The new olympian is @vale drift himself)
lean dome
i got outclassed i think
alpine stratus
what would his boons be
actually, he was atted, so, hey greg what boons would u give
gleaming timber
He possesses the plot device powers
static wadi
@gray wind Demetra is Zags granny yes?
modern garnet
Greg would have credits warp boon
alpine stratus
(interprets tartarus to be outside) you are outside now tadaaa
gleaming timber
(off-topic: I had a presentation party with my friends some months ago and mine was about SGG, I put Greg with a big heart around his face)
Now my friends have bought the games
alpine stratus
omg hjgvhjfhjfj
gray wind
That's sweet
static wadi
Apollon, Gefest, Demetra famous gods
they can be new aspects for exmaple
Apollon is for bow
gray wind
Weird, I gotta wait for the cooldown to pass before uploading another one now
static wadi
There are also Helios - did his name ever appeared in game? Selena mb
remote lily
@vale drift thats exactly why I marked 'should' (so it doesn't must) , we understood that we will have the 6th weapon when it will be ready.
And hey you did not spoiled anything from roadmap we did not seen. Before the 'welcome to hell' patch the roadmap still says that the weapon will comes at the end of 2019. 😉
gray wind
If I've seen the right silouhette the figure seems to be carrying a cornucopia, which is a symbol of Demeter
static wadi
yeah i know
gray wind
I'm rather rusty but IIRC Helios is not one of the big 12™️
static wadi
@gray wind there are aspects of weapon
and for bow i vote for apollon
for spear - Athena
And shield may be helios
gray wind
I'd see that, yeah
static wadi
for example blinding with his Q or charge
gray wind
I made the mistake of not reading the whole bit and thought you were proposing Helios as the next Olympian, my bad
static wadi
what is it
drowsy fable
aka the very symbol of demeter?
hexed smelt
gently nudges discussion of zag's parentage to #h1-story-discussion
static wadi
like symbol of fertility
lime schooner
possibly hera or demeter
static wadi
sry
lime schooner
more likely to be hera since she was hinted in the game already
static wadi
@lime schooner in aspect?
lime schooner
yeah
static wadi
i disagree
lime schooner
most aspects are characters that are in the game for the most part
except hera and some others
hexed smelt
hera's not associated with cornucopias or wheat
gray wind
Spikes? Could be a laurel crown if you mean what's coming out of the head
lime schooner
no the figure is carrying a cornucopia
gray wind
Admittedly Hera is a rather blatant omission since she's one of the most well known deities
It's good, as long as people can understand each other there's no issue
I'd imagine she'll be in the game at one point or another
lime schooner
apollo would make for dome dope boons
final sparrow
Well if the Cornucopia is the clue then it's Demeter (Goddess of Agriculture) or her sun Plutus (God of Wealth)
But the designs for the gods/goddesses have kind of been unique to the game
So they can do whatever
lime schooner
yeah i got names mixed up for a sec
gray wind
Fair point, though the cornucopia seems like a hint
lime schooner
because both demeter and hera represent prosperity
static wadi
@gray wind it may be something other...
gray wind
Certainly
static wadi
but i cant see other options tbh
lime schooner
i mean it's hinted as a new olympian not a new god
lime schooner
8 i think
static wadi
Zeus Hades Poseidon
Aphro Dio Athena Ares Hermes
Artemida
u missed Hades
i guess
lime schooner
hades never set foot in olympus thats a thing i know for certain
like he sides with them it's just hard to think of hades as olympian
static wadi
he was
final sparrow
He was on Olympus though 🤔
Then the bros got into a squabble
And Hades was cast out.
Primarily for trying to overthrow Zues.
lime schooner
the squabble as in
final sparrow
Brotherly love you know
lime schooner
after the titan purge
static wadi
they had war with titans
final sparrow
Well yeah. They had to kill their daddy.
static wadi
and when they won - they choosed their domains
Zeus as main had olimp
Poseidon had sea
and Hades had his underworld
lime schooner
it's been ages since i last dug any greek mythology it's insane i get to learn it again for the most bizarre cause
static wadi
well i must say
most of gods has their symbols in game
like for hades his helmet
and three headed dog
lime schooner
oh yeah and the sneak peek's name is literally "demeter" i just realized LOL
static wadi
this new good must have his symbols
hexed smelt
that's just the name on the imgur album :P
lime schooner
still not that out of context
static wadi
so what boon should she give
something for regeneration
some kinda vampirism mechanic mb
lime schooner
vampire mode do sound op but it'd probably get heavy countered by armoured enemies
and usually the heal on hit is balanced to nullify the life loss
strange kite
The missing gods are Demeter, Hephaestus and Hera right?
neat plaza
yeah, hestia is specifically mentioned in game already
so its likely she would be added
static wadi
disagree
strange kite
It's usually either Dio or Hestia at the 12 Olympians
static wadi
aspect means nothing
and Hermes wasnt in 12 but later he appeaed there in Hestia place
and Demetra too btw
oh you said it
neat plaza
eh, i think the fact that the other weapons have conversations where the god goes "wow i used that" kind of points to the gods using the weapons being probable choices, plus the fact that fire would be a good choice for a new "color" more or less of god power since ares with the dark red is the only thing in that vein
strange kite
Hermes is a major god
static wadi
oh
i wanted to say Dio
Dio wasnt there first
too tired sorry(
there is too much work before new year(
strange kite
Zeus/Hera/Poseidon
Demeter/Athena/Apollo/
Artemis/Ares/Aphrodite/
Hephaestus/Hermes
And Dio or Hestia as the 12th
static wadi
funny
Athena's shield is mentioned a lot
but her spear - never
but it also famous
new aspect mb
strange kite
I can see Hephaestus's boons dealing with fire
but I can't really think of effects for Hera and Apollo
lime schooner
i think of apollo (gameplay wise) as a mashup between poseidon's bounties and aphrodite + dionysus crowd control
overall apollo would be heavy cc
he could be another free riches dude like poseidon too
strange kite
Maybe a stacking debuff like Dio; at full stacks they are all consumed and target gets stunned for X period of time depending on the power of the stacks
neat plaza
hephaestus i feel like would be a weird choice considering we already have the hammer upgrades, like as the god of blacksmiths it feels like thats what he would have
strange kite
for example 3 0.2s and 2 0.4s stacks would stun for 1.4 seconds
He's also the god of fire
neat plaza
i mean sure, but like i said earlier, hestia is the goddess of fire, and already mentioned in game as weilder of the 5th weapon
wielder*
static wadi
@neat plaza some fire stacks that low enemies armor