#h1-discussion

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feral kayak
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but i cant

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so imma hope to god that the final version will be mac compatible like all other games

static wadi
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i wish i could say i understand you

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but it's not

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gl to you anyway with that

feral kayak
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well hopefully either geforce NOW reaches out to supergiant, or supergiant gets osx, because i very much wanna binge the game xD

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thanks

scenic glade
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Did they port any of their previous games to OSX?

feral kayak
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all of them to my knowledge

hallow kettle
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tbh hope we can downgrade wep upgrade so i can have my bounce shield back

scenic glade
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Well then, they probably will eventually. Might not be till it’s out of early access

feral kayak
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so 2020 at the earliest

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so now i both want it outta early access and dont, cause the longer its early access the better the content will probly get

scenic glade
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That’s only true to a point.

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I have seen games that kinda just keep adding stuff until they’re not good anymore.

feral kayak
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yeah they cant just pull a permenant early access

scenic glade
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Stranded Deep and The Culling come to mind.

static wadi
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@feral kayak i waited for two things - Steam and Russian language. Now i.m almost happy

teal terrace
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warframe has been in early access for 7 years +

feral kayak
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but in my opinion, all their games have ended up AAA in my opinion

scenic glade
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It’s different for every game.

static wadi
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for every dev*

feral kayak
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yeah but still, all their games have been top notch

manic quarry
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died, but love playing thermonuclear crit bow

static wadi
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chiron aspect?

manic quarry
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No zag

static wadi
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i'm playing chiron now

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burst dmg is op

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but low aoe dmg

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if only i had more titan blood)

hallow kettle
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so curious how active are the devs here

scenic glade
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Chiron is fun w/ poison.

static wadi
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i do not understand poison at all

hard cedar
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Damage over time that stacks.

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And.. that's that.

static wadi
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i saw that

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i still dont understand poison power

hard cedar
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It can boost your DPS up if you have a fast attack weapon.

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It's basically risk-free extra damage, handy for bosses and phases where you do not wanna' get close to them.

hidden talon
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It's so good on the special

teal terrace
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i used it in conjunction with my dash when using the sword

hidden talon
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Poison i mean

hard cedar
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Poison is extra good if you can stack it up fast.

hidden talon
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Free five stacks of poison on big enemies

hard cedar
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Like- Chiron Aspect, Rail, Spear-

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They have the best time with poison.

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Though if you really want free dps, try to get Spear with the no spin but constant attacks, then Artemis's "Attacks cause tracking arrows" Boon.

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Boom.

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You have become death, destroyer of worlds.

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Same works too with Rail with "Infinite Ammo."

hidden talon
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I still think artemis boon with the triple special is best damage with exagryph but yeah poison and arrow support is great on its standard attack

static wadi
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hate this wheel things

valid citrus
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Poison can become really insane. Like 400 damage poison ticks strong

static wadi
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both

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little one is just annoying but big can hit u twi or three times

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and take 40-50 hp

hard cedar
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I just dislike Spreaders the most.

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Because I can't for the life of me play Bullet Hell.

valid citrus
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Just pick athena and laugh at them

hard cedar
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Athena dash is the biggest crutch there is.

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And I love it.

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Because I cannot for the life of me stop dashing.

feral kayak
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-im salty bout not being able to play the game xD
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static wadi
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6 pm

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best time to sleep -_-

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good thing i dont need to work toda

steel viper
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so who do you guys think the next god teased in the trailer is?

elfin ferry
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Demeter.

steel viper
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im thinking it has to be hera or demeter

elfin ferry
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Wheat stalks and a cornacopia, so it's either Demeter or someone else stealing her stuff.

steel viper
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is it a cornucopia?

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thats what i was thinking too but its hard to tell

elfin ferry
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Or a really big horn.

steel viper
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if its demeter i guess zag can just get a bunch of corn from her boons

static wadi
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trailer link pls

elfin ferry
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No clue what her boons would be.

steel viper
elfin ferry
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It's a brief screen shot near the end. You'll want to pause it.

hallow kettle
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so dose anyone know about the secret stashes?

static wadi
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what stashes?

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with trinkets?

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good bye ppl

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have fun

elfin ferry
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Bye.

If you mean the locked sections at the bottom of the keepsake cabinet, then yes...people know about them. 😛

If you want to know more, you should probably step over to #spoiler chat.

iron snow
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Wow... Entered this level with a lady singing a nice song

scenic glade
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=)

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it is a nice song

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My brother and I were talking about which olympian would be next

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We thought the top three candidates were Apollo, Hephaestus, and Demeter

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and if that is a cornucopia then Demeter makes perfect sense

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also she was Persephone's mother

undone fulcrum
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Maybe there is no Apollo in Hades

scenic glade
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and she travelled to the underworld to find her

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I'm thinking her call could be a big ol' scythe

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maybe she could have a lifesteal or regen sort of theme

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

barren rune
brisk trail
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That is twice now my hands stopped moving when I walked into a room with nothing but Ashley and Darren's guitar playing in a SGG game.

barren rune
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What was the first one?

brisk trail
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"Build That Wall" in Bastion.

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Walked into the room, took just enough steps for the song to register, and freeze.

remote lily
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Transistor was for me like 'how I susposed to play this?', because I enjoyed staying in some places and just hear

brisk trail
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Also happened with "Someone Is Always Moving On The Surface" at the main menu of Armored Core: For Answer.

barren rune
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Ohhhh damn. Time to look these up, thanks 😄

brisk trail
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I'll link them in music, hang on.

iron snow
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oh.. thanks for that link.. going to download it to listen

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and not listen while in-game.. haha

brisk trail
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Anyone know if the "Buy Hades now, get the OST" promotion is still live?

tulip ravine
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Is there an audio queue for when the Rocket Bomb has reloaded?

brisk trail
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There's a low-ish "ka-chunk".

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A little lower than the Attack reload.

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I wanna say Rocket Bomb also fires slightly faster?

proud orbit
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I think the firerate might be dependent on time after the projectile has exploded and since there's no arc like the normal bomb it explodes sooner

tulip ravine
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I'm struggling to know when the thing is available. Trying to listen for a cue but there's a lot of noise going on in a fight

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on the other hand I just spammed a god's break while they were displeased for me and the voicelines where hilarious

brisk trail
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"Sorry!"
"Olympus?"

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Did you get a Greater Call?

tulip ravine
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nah I didn't wait, but I might try later

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it doesn't seem like there is any indication of when the Rocket Bomb reload

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I'm shooting stuff in Charon's store and nothing

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FFFF lost to Theseus at like 5%

versed lintel
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@scenic glade Hera and Hestia might also be possible candidates, even though Hestia is not an Olympian anymore (she gave up her spot for dionysus in greek myth), but she does have quite a bit of lore

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I mean... exagriff shadeohboy

idle bronze
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So I just got this game

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any recommendations/advice

versed lintel
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"Don't get hit" - Hypnos

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Well, if you're looking for how to escape from hell, most of it comes down to practice, so take your time

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For the first few times, you could try sticking with one weapon to get a feel for the game's mechanics and the different boons

remote lily
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Are you new?

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||Because there is great little talk about it between Hypnos and Meg where he give her tips how to fight with zag: just dont get hit :)||

versed lintel
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Oh yeah, sorry, forgot the spoilers

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How do you do those again?

remote lily
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use two lines at the start and at the end

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undone fulcrum
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||test||

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|test|

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got it

grizzled escarp
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Its the worst feeling when you had to leave a run and come back and youre super deep in it and have forgotten every mechanic.

remote lily
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Idk if someone noticed but Hades was in top 10 bestsellers on global steam list. Atm 11. Place.

night turret
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It's kinda hard to when you bought it already.

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It just vanishes into thin air

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I duuno what is more facinating 98% positive reviews out of 2.6k reviews. Or that russian guy who wrote a novel with review built in.

brisk trail
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98% positive? Wow, glad I was wrong about the hatedom.

night turret
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Well the "ewww egs" are there, but it seems they were not that determined to drag the game down.

normal valley
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I find most of that stuff is on Facebook

undone pine
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overwhelmingly positive

tulip ravine
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egs?

lusty wasp
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epic game store

tulip ravine
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ah

brisk trail
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Does anyone know the name of the theme that plays during Hydra boss fight?

night turret
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River of Flame, perhaps?

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Does Hydra even has a theme?

iron snow
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finally beat the boss the first time using blade with 54% damage resistance from god mode

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so noob.. died too much till need to have such high damage resistance

night turret
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Ehhh, everyone makes progress on his own pace.

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I sinked 31 run to beat meg.

iron snow
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earlier i was doing my runs normal mode, but at about 15+ still cant pass meg... so decided to switch to god mode and start again fresh. learn how to play the easier way first

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plan to do spear next with god mode too.. try to beat the boss once with all weapons in god mode then only move up normal mode

round herald
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The game is a lot about just learning your muscle memory and what enemies do, it took me like 15 times to beat Tartarus when i first started playing and my hard drive failed recently so i had to start from scratch, only took 6 times to finish the entire game.

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Just keep playing and you'll get better, in that sense God mode is helpful becuse you can play each attempt for longer

hard cedar
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The more you play, the better you get, whoda thunk it.

round herald
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I'm rewriting the entire concept of gaming here

hard cedar
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Jokes aside- if you are new to dungeon crawlers with bullet hell aspects, it will take time to adjust.

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But-

empty ferry
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i hadn't played since a bit after they added elysium, killed hydra 4 times in the first 9 runs on a new save
de-rusting 😔

hard cedar
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This game has the nuttiest dopamine hits you could ever imagine.

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Getting just the right boons-

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Ugh.

iron snow
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while playing blade, a lot of times i cant see where my character is moving with the dash

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so was dashing and smashing things blindly

hard cedar
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Seeing the HP bar melt down- ugh.

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Love it.

iron snow
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not much of accuracy there

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blindly hitting stuff

hard cedar
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Yeah, I had that too. It takes time to adjust to see where you are, and use the dash and dash attack both offensively and defensively at the same time.

round herald
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I always forget to use the extra dash you can grab from Hermes

static wadi
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olympian trinkents wont work if u take it after 1st floor?

night turret
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They still work.

static wadi
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i mean i just killed meg

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took artemida's trinket

empty ferry
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their boon rarity increase still works

static wadi
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and got Hermes

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ah

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sucks(

night turret
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If you canged into other god trinket, it will work as promised.

round herald
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I think Hermes is an exception, kinda like the Chaos gates?

static wadi
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mb

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but i bought ariadna's in shop and hoped for a good boon

astral crest
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hermes can "run ahead" of other gods but the next boon after that will be guaranteed the one you chose it seems

static wadi
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mb

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but i got hermes

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i got chaos

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i got HP

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and only after all that

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i had Artemida's boon

round herald
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Yeah so it just gurantees the next boon you receive will be from that God, not that the next powerup you receive will be a boon. And Hermes and Chaos appear to be exceptions and don't count as Gods for the purposes of those trinkets.

astral crest
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well Chaos is entirely a choice thing so they don't need to count

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and I think Hermes has special dialogue sometimes when you have the keepsakes on so it might be on purpose?

empty ferry
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hermes is def on purpose
his boons dont take up the main slots, he's not one of the standard main gods

astral crest
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unfortunately when you're trying to take advantage of the keepsake to use ariadne's it's annoying :c

static wadi
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anyway this run is ruined with no correct upgrade for hammer(

valid musk
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wah new to the game first time i try the first boss, i finish with 1 hp

feral kayak
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how did yall get roles

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cause i have hades and pyre

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so far

static wadi
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is it a bug that u can cancel pause between autoattack with dash?

grizzled wadi
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guys is anyone knows youtuber or twitch chanel who did than max heart route? I saw only meg romance and i cant play the game myself 😫😫

static wadi
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wut

trail stag
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Question, do we absolutely have to use the Pact of Punishment?

astral crest
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no you can still start runs without turning anything on

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you do have to use it if you want more bounties though

static wadi
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i remember there was chest that supposed to be open with keys

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are they still exist?

night turret
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Keys are no longer needed to open chests, but you need to buy chests themselves from contractor.

jovial nimbus
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Hey. What time is the QnA starting? Last time it happened like 4am where I'm at lol

radiant halo
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Do special attack effects (lightning for example) not strike multiple times with the chiron aspect? Seems like it doesn't which is a bit balls...

proud orbit
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It does not you are correct

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As to it being balls you are also correct

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But that's just for lightning

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Poseiden knocks back several times, posion stacks up immediately etc

radiant halo
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Oooh, I wasn't aware of that...seems odd to single out lightning...

proud orbit
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Maybe they think it's too much burst damage

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Sorta makes sense

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But you can recreate it with poseiden knock back + Zeus duo

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In that case each knock back instance causes lightning

remote lily
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somehow can not agree and cant disagree

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In that case each knock back instance causes lightning
But probably it works the same way, it cause animation but damage once

proud orbit
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I'm certain it works in the way I suggest

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It does the damage several times

pulsar valley
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Do you guys plan to start a new save when the 1.0 comes out or are you going to keep playing on your old ones?

iron snow
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Just tried spear the first time. Seems weak compared to blade

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Barely can use the swing attack. Pressing hold is slow

tiny sage
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Spear can be really strong with the right upgrades. Personally prefer it over blade. Mainly for the special

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swing attack is a relatively high risk attack compared to others tho ye

iron snow
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Have to try more with different boon

tiny sage
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At 18sec exactly

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To me it looked like I only took 20dmg but Defy Death triggered randomly

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But I guess I DID somehow take 90dmg. I just dont see how

novel shadow
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@tiny sage I also had this bug happen to me twice

tiny sage
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oh no so it might really be a bug?

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Just came about 5 hits close to beating the Elysium Boss for the first time and then died

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this hurts :')

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I'll keep believing its not a bug so it hurts less

hexed smelt
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it looks like you're on hell mode what with the lack of mercy invincibility there

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oh wait

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maybe the whole "charmed enemies will still hit you and do WAY more damage" thing is..... still a thing

tiny sage
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I'm not playing on hell mode

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so yeah - the charmed thing also came to mind for me

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didn't know it used to be a thing but considering the damage i would have had to take to get that triggered the buffed up charmed attack is the only thing that would work

hexed smelt
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yeah, looking at the footage, you charmed one of the shield dudes and then dashed right up next to him, and presumably got smacked for a Lot of damage

tiny sage
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oh well. yet another reason why this is my least favourite call :')

void nova
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@pulsar valley good question, i'll be sad to see my grinding progress go but i guess i probably will start a new save once the narrative is complete

grizzled escarp
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I think my only complaint about the game is it becomes very RNG once you reach your skill ceiling.

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Specifically talking about|| heat mode.||

manic kraken
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does exclusive acces drop from both dyo and poseidon?

radiant tangle
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Duo boons can drop from either of their associated gods, provided you meet the requirements

lament bough
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I always loved supergiant's art, but never the type of games they made. but hades is the best action-rpg dungeon crawler ive ever played!

rotund finch
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Yeah, I pretty sure Charmed enemies still done tons of extra damage to you, I've gotten hit like that a few times now and that's the only thing i can figure that's doing it

winter siren
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So long story short, i bought the game last saturday and showed it to some friends, 6 of them have bought it already😂 😂

alpine stratus
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good!!!!!

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six is A LOT i admire ur convincing skillz

winter siren
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To be honest i did nothing special to convince them, they just watched me playing It and the game did the rest since it's awesome to Watch as It is to play it

hardy drum
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we getting achievements soon?

oak knot
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impressive, i can only get 1 and he is a huge fan of Greek mythology already

tiny sage
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My convincing skillz aren't that good so I gifted it to 2 friends and gave my 2 extra Pyre copies to 2 others who were interested.
Casting the Supergiant net as far as possible :^)

spice chasm
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tulip ravine
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The one cousin I actually already had a present for put Hades on his wishlist so now I guess I'm making it rain for him this xmas.

hardy drum
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is it impossible to save on the last level?

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only option I get is give up

manic kraken
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why do the chariots make cat noises

steel viper
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because the bigger ones make big cat noises

manic kraken
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seems legit

steel viper
tiny sage
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Apparently Freya was depicted riding a cat-pulled chariot a lot

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Wrong mythology tho so idk :')

hexed smelt
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it's because they're nemean chariots - as in, the lion heracles killed that one time?

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The wild land of Nemea is perhaps best known for the monstrous lion slain by the hero Herakles during one of his many labors, oft-told still. The visage of this beast became a symbol of its prideful chariot-riders[...]

scenic glade
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ugh
I'm so bad at this game

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I had an absolutely amazing run

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Artemis cast, Poseidon aspect on the sword, exit wounds, fully loaded

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Just cast all 6 at one guy, hope for some crits, then nova smash him and watch him take 6*200 damage from all the casts getting knocked out of him

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and I still lost to the final boss

timid otter
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after about 15 good runs i managed to defeat him just now for the first time

scenic glade
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took me closer to 30 runs to beat him for the first time

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and I've still only beaten him with the Shield

timid otter
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i went with bow

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what build did u use with shield?

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i cant decide whats better if going full special or attack

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with normal shield, i havent unlocked the other aspects yet

scenic glade
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idk what the first one was

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The second one was what I call "The Yeet Cannon"

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basically full Poseidon

timid otter
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lol

scenic glade
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I took the attack, rupture, double knockback legendary, the AoE blast and extra damage when you wall slam

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plus a nice Doom effect on my special so I could get that sweet Privileged Status damage bonus

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it was awesome

timid otter
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sounds like a lot of fun

scenic glade
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I could walk into a room of tiny vermin, press X once, and watch them all ricochet like pinballs around the room and die instantly

hexed smelt
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poseidon builds are so much fun in styx

scenic glade
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agreed

hexed smelt
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and then you reach the final boss and are very, very sad

scenic glade
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unless you've also got Doom and I think the Ares call as well

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and have the shield so you can block like 90% of his attacks

timid otter
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i've had a lot of succes with artemis call on last boss

scenic glade
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I wish you didn't need Rupture for Poseidon to be good against bosses

timid otter
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depending on lvl and rarity it cand deal between 25-50% max hp dmg

scenic glade
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like if knockback converted into extra damage for enemies who are immune to it

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but i guess that's maybe the point

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knockback is so good against regular enemies that it has to be weak to bosses to stay balanced

peak copper
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Hello is save and quit option available in this game? 😄

flat vapor
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you can quit in the middle of a run, the game autosaves often

peak copper
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You mean can i quit in every moment and game save this?

brisk trail
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not quite

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you can quit after clearing a room, if you try to leave before you're done with whatever room you're in your run is trashed

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also you can't quit from a pre-boss room after grabbing the reward

tulip ravine
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In the top right a little red trident like icon flashes every time the game has been saved.

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You should see it when you go from one room the the next.

normal valley
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I was actually so surprised and pleased to learn that the game saves after every room!

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One of the worst feelings is getting into a good run in a roguelite only to run out of time in the real world and have to leave it all behind.

static wadi
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yes finally escaped for the 1st time

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that was something

scenic glade
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congrats!

static wadi
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thx

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acidently had a nice combo

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double boon from Ares and Artemida

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and Legendary one from her for 3 more blodstone charge

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+1 from shop and 5 deadly vortexes

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but it was still very tough fight

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22nd run btw

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and russian translate makes my eye trembling

scenic glade
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=)

warm solar
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love the game so far! but I wish I could play it with controller, I'm not used to keyboard and my fingers are not long enough to reach all buttons comfortably x.x

teal terrace
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that's all I do Is play with controller, i'm confused

red coral
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It is controller compatible if you have one that works with PC!

warm solar
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oh? 😮 I need to try it out then, does it work with the PS4 controller?

teal terrace
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haven't tried it yet but i'm fairly certain you should be able to

warm solar
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I'm not very pc savy

teal terrace
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i usually play with an X1 controller

red coral
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You should be able to install the drivers for a ps4 controller, might take a bit of googling first tho!

warm solar
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I somehow got the ps3 controller running on my old laptop, so I hope technology is far enough now to make it easier now lol

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Thanks very much for the Info tho, looking forward to playing it more even more now^^

harsh plinth
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If you run with too much heat does it still go up by 1 for the weapon if you win?

humble pulsar
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Yeah

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If you put in 5 heat and the target is 1, it counts as your "1 heat win"

harsh plinth
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Thanks

manic quarry
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If an attack or special applies doom or posion do the doom and posion also benifit from bonus damage to that attack?

tranquil hollow
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I think the damage is separate

manic quarry
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That's fair

bold ivy
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huh, i literally joined the discord today to ask that

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feels kinda counter intuitive if the +special/attack boons dont actually buff the primary effect of your doom/poison attack or special

odd bramble
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It seems intuitive to me, why would it show a certain status value yet always have different actual value because of the +attack% given by the same boon?

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Plus, Artemis' boons give way lower damage bonuses than others precisely because her effect stacks with +damage%

bold ivy
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artemis' boon giving less damage is fine considering, just that out of all of the +attack or +special dmg boons work with all of the attack/special skills, except for ares/dio.

i get that technically theres the attack component and the debuff component is separate, but when the value is on the damage from that debuff, all of the special/attack boon bonuses feel like theyre focusing on the part of the ability that doesnt really matter

proud orbit
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Just a trade off if you want to focus on this or that

opaque agate
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No cloud save on Epic games?

proud orbit
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Noh unfortunately

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There is on steam however

crimson dune
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not that its great, but you can transfer the save files over pretty easily

karmic ibex
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I'm testing out the shield, what is the best build for shield?

opaque agate
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thanks for the reply guys

humble pulsar
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If an attack or special applies doom or posion do the doom and posion also benifit from bonus damage to that attack?
If a modifier says it specifically increases "Attack" "Special" "Cast" or "Dash Attack" or something similar to that, it will not increase poison damage.

If a modifier says "you do increased damage" and doesn't specify what it applies to (Eris Aspect on the Rail, Thanatos' Butterfly) it applies to all damage you do from all sources.

tranquil hollow
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damn this zeus shield aspect hits different

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takes some getting used to tho

iron snow
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How many heat levels are there?

toxic plover
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32

proud orbit
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No it keeps going

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It's like 45 or something is the max heat

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32 is just the highest in which you get a reward that isn't the normal bounties

iron snow
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The heat is tied to the weapon? So if i am at heat 10 with blade, will the other weapons follow or start from heat 1?

proud orbit
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Start from heat 1

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So you can get the heat bounties for each

iron snow
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Ic. Ok. Thanks

proud orbit
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Well

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0

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If you haven't cleared it with that before

frail lark
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Hey so I just cleared the game twice tonight after 25hrs, and I think I'm done with the game as far as I care about so far: what is the expected release date of this game? 2020? 2021?

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nevermind, its mentioned in the hades-info chat

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2020, not exact date*

viscid flicker
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what's the highest heat you can get bounties for?

humble pulsar
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if you max the heat gauge, you make the heat gauge cry too

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max heat for bounties is 20 (25 in hell mode)

hexed smelt
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i love the little messages you get

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reminds me of “DO YOU EVEN READ” from transistor

humble pulsar
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btw I seriously dont think this is possible with any weapon

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not even the shield

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I tried it with the Rail, couldn't even get past the miniboss in Tartarus

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(and when I died I had 2 minutes left)

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32 is probably doable. Awfully difficult, but doable

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45 I think is legitimately impossible.

hoary sandal
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ok i dunno if people are going to hate me for that comparison but when that last Five Nights game came out, which had literally all the possible enemies, there was literally only one dude who could go through it all without passing out of tension
maybe it'll end up being the same case here (minus the health problems i hope)

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in that case it was a run with all possible enemies maxed out on difficulty, with were 50 different things
thats why i find it hard to repeat here

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which*

iron snow
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My damage resistance is at 54%

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If i keep losing

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Will it hit 100%

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Then will be true God mode

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They don't reset the damage resistance

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So eventually will hit 100%

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That's 1 way to finish all the heat the newbie way

hoary sandal
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ok wow

barren rune
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When in doubt, keep dying!

hoary sandal
#

you'll get back there anyway

hexed smelt
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@iron snow he highest i’ve heard someone getting it is 80%!

iron snow
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ok sure hope they cap it

thin coyote
#

How is the artemis support arrow meant to work with things like Bow Special

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I get why it doesnt shoot one for every hit I guess, but it seems like it doesnt even always register a hit

brisk trail
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It's for every full attack cycle.

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Flurry Shot would fire for every arrow you shoot.

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Any full Attack, Special, or Cast cycle.

inland shell
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@frail lark Its notrally the type of game you simply beat once or twice. The mode of the story and the gameplay loop its designed to be living and engaging. If youve had your fun, then on release or when they make the next big update with a new character you might care enough to play more

thin coyote
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also gosh I wish chaos shield aspect and explosive return had the synergy I thought they would

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but you only catch the primary shield :/

teal terrace
#

is the reason shield is tiered so highly mainly due to dmg reduction?

brisk trail
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Not just damage reduction, complete immunity. If it's not an AoE attack and it hits the shield, you don't take damage.

thin coyote
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makes sense, I can see that being vital as you up the heat

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just wish i didnt find its aspects and hammer traits to be so underwhelming compared to other things on offer

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the base kit is amazing

maiden matrix
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bruh

nimble otter
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Srs

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These Shade emojis are adorable... shadesmile

shrewd veldt
brisk trail
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Does anyone actually use casting? I've consistently built runs to avoid it and not spent any darkness on it.

static wadi
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casting?

rotund finch
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Getting Boiling Blood on bosses can be helpful, and some Casts can be really strong if you build around them, i typically dont focus on them, but they are always really helpful

brisk trail
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The strongest build in the game is a Cast build.

harsh plinth
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Ares/Artemis Duo Boon for Ares Cast is like the best thing available

rotund finch
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Hunting blades

brisk trail
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Yup.

static wadi
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casting is throwing this red stones?

rustic escarp
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I have yet to have any luck with cast builds.

acoustic veldt
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yes, your cast can change with boons though

rustic escarp
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The sword upgrade being able to dislodge the cast stones is pretty legit, but even with that I have been underwhelmed

static wadi
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this ares/artemida boon is strong stuff

brisk trail
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I've only been playing for 5 hours, I guess i should just experiment more

harsh plinth
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There are good cast builds, you have to build for them though. You can get 6+ stones to throw, and Artemis's boon that does damage on knock out is a whole lot of damage, plus the sword aspect that forces the knock out, mmm yeah

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Aphrodite's cast is all around good if you want to shotgun it into enemies.

rotund finch
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I've had a lot of good runs with Poseidon's too, it has a huge radius and good damage

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plus knockback

toxic plover
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huh, didn't think it'd shotgun, how does it interact with hera aspect?

harsh plinth
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Yeah esp is you get a bunch of add on effects to knock backs

rustic escarp
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The best cast build I have had is posideon cast, with the knock into wall buff and rupture

harsh plinth
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I had a 7 cast Ares/Artemis build the other day. Ares legendary plus all the buffs to rifts. It was kind of silly and nothing was a challenge.

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Was at 9 or 10 heat for that one with the shield just throw rifts and block up

rustic escarp
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That being said, my favorite builds so far have been a mix of attack damage buffs and dash damage buffs, and then dash attack for mad damage. Did a run in less than 30 minutes, it blew my mind....

brisk trail
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Bruh, wait until you break 20. That's a good feeling.

rotund finch
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Oh yeah, I love the Zeus shield aspect with dashing wallop, just mow everything down

rustic escarp
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What yall think best weapon for speed runs will be

harsh plinth
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My fastest so far is 24 min with the shield, just with the hammer upgrade to do aoe damage on catch, nothing much beyond that. just spam throwing and clearing rooms.

brisk trail
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Sword and Rail.

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Maaaybe Spear if you spawn into Quick Spin and get early Deadly Strike.

rustic escarp
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My fastest have been shield as well. But, I assume sword would probably best best since it has the built in staggering

junior galleon
#

is there a cap for dodge chance?

valid citrus
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I think my fastest was 23 min railgun. Spreadshot poison build. Basically got the duo boon before Hydra and everything just melted. I wasn't even going that fast and taking my sweet time choosing rooms. Though I think my cast build would have been a great contender if I didn't decide to grind for money to buy a diamond lol

frail lark
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@inland shell Hey yeah, so I didnt quite realise theres customisation to weapons, so thats pretty cool.

woeful loom
#

Anybody know if there will be a reset when the games leaves early access?

jolly lodge
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so far the estimate is no, but we'll only know once we are close to that date I think?

valid citrus
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They said they'll do everything they can to prevent that

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It could wipe hundreds of hours

woeful loom
#

awesome! thanks for the quick reply. ya i was hoping that would be the case

hallow kettle
#

tbh if they made figures/statues i will get cerberus in a heartbeat

woeful loom
#

that would be so cool, man i love the character designs in this game

brisk trail
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👏 GIVE 👏 US 👏 A 👏 DUSA 👏 PLUSH 👏

hallow kettle
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nah cerberus plush

oak knot
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Bouldy plush, he is so round

hallow kettle
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but cerberus

iron snow
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Although they said they will try their best not to reset but when achievements come, likely certain things need to redo

oak knot
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Cerberus is not a good boi, he makes me kill all the vermin to progress

hallow kettle
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but all he wants is food and wont kill u

scenic nova
#

Listening to Out of Tartarus at work...

Production is not normally this high

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Good motivator

tacit spoke
vast shell
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Hey, is there anything I'm likely to have missed out on by beating the final boss too early (run ~10) in this save?

brisk trail
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I don't think so.

vast shell
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Just wondering because I just met ||Tisiphone|| without seeing any of the House conversations about ||Hades bringing in the other Furies to stop Zag|| first

brisk trail
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Oh, I thought you meant permanently missable content that wasn't dialog.

vast shell
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of course I saw those on my first save, i'm just like "what else might i be missing out on" lol

brisk trail
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I don't think there's anything missable like that.

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Hades isn't like Tales of the Abyss, where if you miss any of several minor sidequests in the first 15 hours, you miss a sprawling and character-enriching sidestory that ends in tragedy.

oak knot
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ugh that sounds like a questionable design choice

brisk trail
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Yeah, I never did that sidequest because some of the windows are so absurdly tight that if you don't sequence break at the EXACT right time, just completely kill any main quest momentum to advance the web you lost the whole thing.

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I think at one point I said "...I am not slow-walking across this entire in-game continent for just lore."

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Game-long sidequests for Infinity +1 Swords? If I have to restart my game and do some crazy challenge for Super Stygius, I'm in.

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(to get slightly more on-topic)

oak knot
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good old game, kill skelly 1000 times to upgrade Stygius

brisk trail
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I could do that.

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New game, kill him every attempt so you get it on attempt 1000?

oak knot
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yeah i guess that's still way better than 1000 convos with Hades

tough berry
#

I've had the same concern on my game @vast shell , having completed my first run on #7

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the dialogue still comes up later

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from what I can tell its basically just backlogging different context-based conversations and only giving you the most relevant recent one

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but as you keep going and get through them all it cycles back around to the other stuff

night turret
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1k convos with Hades?

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Isn't that a placeholder?

remote lily
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its

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The files include 4 the same texts even for 999 convos

lament hare
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I recorded my final fight with my Cast build and it was critting for over 2k

hexed smelt
tough berry
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i mean its the most obvious final boss ever but sure

grizzled plover
#

I just got the "Maid Dusa" pun. OH MY GOD, it's genius!

pastel pasture
#

I‘m wondering is there a way to refund titan blood like darkness. I tried the melee weapons and it's fun. It take me 30min to beat Zeus, however it take twice the time to use the range weapon. I tried to upgrade the range weapon with titan blood but I have used it all over the place. I don't want to be fixed on a particular weapon, is there a way to do it other than start all over?

empty ferry
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there is not

deep spade
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You'll get a lot more titan blood later, don't worry about it

brisk trail
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Why hades is more popular than pyre?

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Both of them are great games

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It bugs me why people favor the other

empty ferry
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action rpg roguelite is a popular genre
visual novel basketball isnt

brisk trail
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and a fresh roguelike was in demand

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the last one I can remember is streets of rogue

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or dead cells

mint shuttle
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because it's new

empty ferry
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naw, thats not the reason
pyre was new once too
and it wasnt that popular then either

tired citrus
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Is it normal for me to be getting absolutely destroyed on double boon rooms?

empty ferry
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yes

tired citrus
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I'm about 8 hours in, gotten to the third act boss twice and died there

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Is there any resource I should really be focusing on

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like gems, darkness, keys

empty ferry
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keys first, i think

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keys > gems > darkness > nectar

tired citrus
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Aww, but my friends like nectar

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just making sure there's not something super important to prioritise

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like there's some hidden 500 gem purchase that completely changes the game

white siren
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what weapon U use

tired citrus
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Different one every time

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haven't tried only the bow

brisk trail
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I was surprised how short the game is but that's early access for you can't wait for more content

tired citrus
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not sure if I'll like it, really liking the spear

white siren
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didn't like bow 2

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I think shield is the best

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can both take damage&defense

empty ferry
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i wouldnt call hades short

tired citrus
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Yeah, kind of a silly thing to say.

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For a game with this much variety and replayability

brisk trail
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I would

opal helm
#

Hey I would like to ask, how do I reset the bounties in hell mode? do I have to finish the game first?

empty ferry
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yes

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i wouldnt even call one full run of hades short compared to one run of other roguelites

brisk trail
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i got to final boss after 4 hours and I was nowhere near final boss at 4 hours into boi

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I lost to him but still

empty ferry
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that just means you are a good player of hades and werent a good player of boi ¯_(ツ)_/¯

brisk trail
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you aren't wrong

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but I would say hades end boss is equivalent to like Mom's heart in time it takes with the average run

empty ferry
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i dont think any new content will make runs longer

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i recall hearing that they wont be adding new/further biomes anymore, but i might be mistaken

strange kite
#

How is the length of a biome determined?

empty ferry
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devfam is judging by time spent on a successful run

brisk trail
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I would certainly pay extra for more floors

empty ferry
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i suppose they could add more chambers per biome, just as a number tweak, not new content
idk if thats a good idea though

brisk trail
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I'm comparing it to my performance in other roguelikes which is of course apples to oranges

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well I'd like new biomes after the last boss

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but any new content will be greeted with open arms really

empty ferry
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someone on here mentioned unused parts of the underworld from mythology, but they'd all come before the final boss even if they were added

flint jetty
#

Final biome will be ||fighting up mount Olympus to beat up Zeus and take back Persephone after finding out all of Hades anger issues stem from Zeus kidnapping his wife because of a game of truth and dare that went too far.||

brisk trail
#

big if true

warped thunder
#

What weapon is the best if there is one and whats the most fun to use?

empty ferry
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both are very subjective

warped thunder
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So basically whatever feels better to use?

empty ferry
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pretty much

warped thunder
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thanks

willow mural
#

I've always enjoyed the spear in Bastion so naturally I gravitated to it in this game too. I have no idea how good it is though, just my play style

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is there a limit to how many boons you can have?

lusty wasp
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only how you can meet/how many exist

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and only 1 main boon for each of the 5 abilities

willow mural
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when I first played, I assumed that 7 or 9 was the max (however many show on screen) so I'd keep picking rooms that didn't have boons because I thought I'd already filled up

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just saw the devs play a game and they had like 20 and I was like, oh

empty ferry
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press the back button, it shows a loooot of slots

brisk trail
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there are some that are locked to certain slots but a lot are just addons

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I think there's kind of a bias towards ranged weapons being better but really they're all fine

empty ferry
#

and there really is only one weapon that isnt ranged

willow mural
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is the shield ranged? I haven't played with it yet

lusty wasp
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and even then you can go cast

mint shuttle
#

I play bow melee tho

empty ferry
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it's special is, yes, narwhal

lusty wasp
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the sword is the only real melee

mint shuttle
#

spear has insane range especially with the hammer upgrade

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not even considering the special

lusty wasp
#

sword special build with double nova is really close range 🙂

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now

mint shuttle
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I like to use flurry jab, that feels close range too

willow mural
#

are there any streamers you guys recommend? I only started Hades recently when it was released on Steam, but am traveling out of the country right now and can't play til I get back home

empty ferry
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Celerity is ok
Hades is not his main game though

peak creek
#

hey, folks, how do I use Ambrosia? The new square bottle thingy

night turret
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Look for people with locks.

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on their hearts

peak creek
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I have maxed out Skelly, and he has a lock, but U can't give it to him

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do I have to also max conversations?

night turret
#

Yes, you need to make them talk

peak creek
#

oof

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off I go then

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thx

tardy apex
#

where can I check my death defiance?

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ah nvm

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the two little icons next to my health bar

frail lark
#

how do i get the early access role assigned to me

red coral
frail lark
#

thank you

woven merlin
#

Hey guys I found a bug, where should I report it?

red coral
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F10 in-game!

woven merlin
#

thanks fam

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so I have a screenshot of the bug but I can't upload it since I'm in the menu right now, is there any way to upload it?

red coral
#

Upload it to imgur and paste the image link in a fresh bug report is what I’d do

grizzled plover
#

Maybe i didn't get used to the Sword, but for me it is underwhelming. Which are your to go perks for the Sword? Are there some tricks?

red coral
#

Sword special builds are really powerful!

brisk trail
#

Is the gameplay similar to Dead Cells or Neon Chrome?

hardy drum
#

so I know what blood is for. But whats the point of the others?

small raptor
#

the gems and diamonds? renovations

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and unlocking music tracks with Orpheus

hardy drum
#

guess I havent gotten to that point yet

small raptor
#

renos wind up being very helpful as moments of calm during your runs ... you can have the Contractor (shade who sits to on Hades' left) build healing chambers in each region

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or you can have them create infernal troves and the like for regions

opal rover
#

Can someone do me a favor? I've only beaten the game twice, but both times I've mashed the A button to get out of the pool of blood (just muscle memory at this point), which has closed whatever modal it is that pops up when you first respawn after winning. Can someone tell me what it says (if necessary, in the hades-spoilers channel, if it has spoiler stuff in it) ?

small raptor
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just says the prince's story will continue at a later date

opal rover
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Got it, thanks much.

small raptor
#

personally I think it's a nice touch from the devs as an early access thing ... fits into the narration nicely

opal rover
#

I like the little touches of keeping the story and flavor text in line with the Early Access improvements.

sour crystal
#

Hello, is there a way to see the builds I used in previous runs?

warped thunder
#

whats better for a spear with flurry , purple curse of agony (93 doom dmg) or heroic tempest (+69% atk dmg and knockback)

delicate agate
#

@compact garden Dead Cells is probably the closest rouge-like to Hades in my opinion. The combat is very similar to Bastion if you played that.

slate lark
#

Hey everyone! Quick questions: do the keepsakes from the gods work? For example the adamant arrowhead. It says in the description that the next boon I find will be from Artemis and it has a 10% chance to be rare or higher. But it doesn't seem to work as described?

hexed smelt
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what do you mean?

slate lark
#

I mean from the description it suggests that the next boon I find will belong to Artemis. But that is not the case. Am I missing something?

mint shuttle
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if you do it at the start, you can still get the hammer

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it's just that if a boon appears it'll be atermis

slate lark
#

I see

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Thanks

mint shuttle
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I don't know it works for doors and stuff

hexed smelt
#

it does

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the next time you get a boon, it will be artemis (or it’ll be hermes, but he sneaks in by being speedy and you won’t miss your chance at a guaranteed boon)

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it doesn’t guarantee that the next reward you get will be a god boon

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just that when one shows up, it’ll be the god you picked

mint shuttle
#

nicely put

oak knot
#

imagine a full Hermes run

mint shuttle
#

he doesn't have damage buffs though :c

oak knot
#

speed is power, i'm speed

mint shuttle
#

gotta go fast

hexed smelt
#

it gives the guaranteed boon once and then it’s done

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it doesn’t give another if you keep it on in the next biome

vocal pine
#

Will we have more Thanatos pictures in future updates? All my friends love him and they wish to have more

timid ferry
#

hades devs please remove souls from getting the defect perk when you anger athena. just used 2 death revives trying to kill the same 6 shield guys, who kept reving due to the souls take 0 damage from my attacks

brisk trail
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you supposed to pick athena in double boon,

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learned it the hard way

mint shuttle
#

lmao

last shell
#

How do you kill shield guys fast? They’re so tanky

brisk trail
#

Dash behind

mint shuttle
#

puncha their buns

potent egret
#

spear ftw

toxic plover
#

Mortar them

valid citrus
#

Holy crap. When you are doing a poison build and get the choice between shop (600g) Dio and Aphro AND Dio

south meadow
#

I Think the only question I would have for super giant is when do we get a bouldy ambrosia?

valid citrus
#

Where do we ask the questions btw?

woven merlin
#

dang I just died right at the end of the game

#

game's very good tho

runic tartan
#

@last shell for GreatShields, I usually have a Poseidon boon on my main attack, then just push them back into a wall, and wall slam them to death. Certainly works for the shield and rail that I prefer

native rose
#

Artemis pierces shields

opal rover
#

I always grab the Sisyphus Keepsake at the start of Elysium and abuse the respawning traps, it makes most enemies a joke.

#

Their AI makes no attempt to avoid getting hit by bombs, falling rocks, or the arrows that the statues regularly fire.

mint shuttle
#

With how slow those arrows move you'd think I'd get hit less than 100s of times but... you'd be wrong

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:c

visual tiger
#

yo, what would you people say if there was a boon that made the special suck the enemies together?

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it would work pretty well with the gun

#

where most hammer upgrades pierce or do AOE damage

spark vale
#

ares? not quite what youre saying but close enough

#

i forget what it's called, the blade rift pull boon

brisk trail
#

This might be an unpopular opinion, but I really don't think that Orpheus's voice actor fits. You can clearly tell that it's a woman doing the dialogue when he talks normally, and when Orpheus starts to sing, you can tell that it's a man

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2 Completely different voices

light eagle
#

engulfing vortex is the boon from ares that brings them in

visual tiger
#

ahh

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havent met that one yet

last shell
#

Thanks @runic tartan I’ll try that

light eagle
#

really useful. pick it up when you can

visual tiger
#

was thinking a special boon where that would pull in enemies would make the gun better

mint shuttle
#

Sticky bomb upgrade 👀

upbeat haven
#

Wow I'm 1min late for my question, disgusted D:

visual tiger
#

seeing as so far i find both ranged weapons to be quite underpowered compared to the melee ones

south meadow
#

Now to find out if Bouldy will get a story line about saving christmas and if Chaos will ever get nipples

mint shuttle
#

Haha I was typing

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Rip

spark vale
#

the gun is so good already tho 🙂

#

i just got my first escape with the bow this morning

mint shuttle
#

"how do I word this.... Oh nvm"

light eagle
#

the gun is great but i can never get the hang of it

brisk trail
#

My problem with the bow is that it requires you to pretty much get an upgrade really early on

spark vale
#

the gun's triple special is bomb af

brisk trail
#

If you end up in Asphodel without an upgrade, it's a real pain

#

weapon upgrade to clarify

spark vale
#

i got ares on the bows attack as my first boon

visual tiger
#

yea i get that but i still feel that melee weapons are better

spark vale
#

i dunno, melee weapons put you in danger too much imo

#

but that probably means the game is balanced well?

winter siren
#

Am i the only considering the gun a little over the top compared to the others weapons?

spark vale
#

that we can have different opinions like that

light eagle
#

spear for life

brisk trail
#

I personally prefer melee weapons over the ranged weapons, but maybe I'm just an elite gamer sipsThink

visual tiger
#

well i might be bad at aiming which is causing this opinion it just seems so much easier to kill enemies with sword, shield or spear

brisk trail
#

My favourite weapon is probably the sword, my least favourite is the shield

#

A chain weapon ala Kratos would be amazing, or a scythe 😩

ivory remnant
#

@brisk trail I actually really like the difference between Orpheus's speaking voice and his singing voice. In part because a higher speaking voice lets me headcanon him as trans more naturally, and in part because singing and speaking voices don't always actually sound that similar.

opal rover
#

Yeah, gun is really good compared to bow... I actually dislike bow unless I get the "four extra arrows" or "rapid fire instead of charge" daedalus upgrade for it.

visual tiger
#

Wait you hate the shield

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what in gods name happened

mint shuttle
#

I don't know if a scythe would be much different than spear

#

Other than the stab bit

visual tiger
#

aoe normal attack

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and maybe piercing dash attack

brisk trail
#

Scythe= AOE/ Spin attacks

visual tiger
#

make it opposite of the spear, less range more aoe

mint shuttle
#

I think fist weapons would be awesome but that might be too much like the shield with knock backs

opal rover
#

Similarly, I think the spear's versatility just flat-out outdoes the sword. Long reach, a charged aoe, and a ranged attack. Only thing the sword has on it is an instant aoe.

brisk trail
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Oh, Orpheus is trans? @ivory remnant

winter siren
#

I hope for a giant axe or maybe a dual wield thing like fists

brisk trail
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Spear is more like dash n spin or stabby boi

deep spade
#

the next weapon is going to be a ranged weapon

south meadow
#

I feel as though we need to add a fist weapon for getting bouldy to the ambrosia stage

deep spade
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we've got 3 melee weapons on the left, and 2 ranged weapons and an empty slot on the right

ivory remnant
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@brisk trail probably not canonically, but it's fun to headcanon him that way.

mint shuttle
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Bouldy aspect

south meadow
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Yeah bring it in on the bouldy saves christmas update

mint shuttle
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I want to pick up enemies and throw them at each other

brisk trail
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I just thought it was some odd character art. But as I said before, unpopular opinion

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😛

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the 6th weapon will be bouldy, you just run around on him ala super mario galaxy

south meadow
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How does a hades player entre the hades suggestions page?

opal rover
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Boulder power in Mario Galaxy was OP, it was so much fun.

south meadow
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They could seriously improve Poseiden if they allowed him an option to knock bosses against a wall

brisk trail
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That would be OP

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nah i meant like the starball levels

south meadow
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Yeah, but right now he seems lack luster when you enter a boss chamber

brisk trail
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you could let it knockback without having the bosses get staggered

runic tartan
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Poseidon is indeed a bit of a let-down on boss fights; otherwise, i'd have all his boons. But being able to slam bosses into walls like normal enemies would be way too OP.

visual tiger
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what about making his boons doing more damage to bosses in general then

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it knocks people away but if they cant be pushed it deals more damage

opal rover
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Possible sixth weapons: Caduceus/Asclepius (staff), Heracles' club, Damocles (sword? maybe an option for the sword we already have), Cronus (scythe), Bident (like a trident but just two heads... specifically associated with Hades in mythology), Labrys (big axe), Hephaestus (hammer)...

runic tartan
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As is, they are able to be wall-slammed if they're next to a wall. Tbh, because Poseidon is so good vs normal enemies, he needs to kinda suck vs bosses to balance out

round ether
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All the weapons so far have been associated with Hades and his direct siblings, and the only one that doesn't have a weapon in the game yet... is Demeter

visual tiger
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and what weapon does he have?

round ether
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As goddess of the harvest a scythe makes sense?

runic tartan
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They probably won't add in another sword or spear-like weapon; too much overlap with existing weapons. Hammer, scythe, and axe could be options. I'm excited to see what's coming.

visual tiger
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scythe is possible then

brisk trail
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i feel like hammer/big axe/club are already kinda restricted due to the sword's special and the spear makes a bident or staff kinda undoable, scythe would probably make the most sense

visual tiger
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but it could be a throwing scythe

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like you toss it like a boomerang

fiery pebble
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Yeah Demeter is the original wielder of the last weapon

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So Scythe is fitting

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Otherwise I can see a staff of some kind

south meadow
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just answering bouldy for every post lol

oak knot
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final weapon is a sweet Macedonian Tau-Lambda

brisk trail
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final weapon is the exploding chariot

visual tiger
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it oneshots everyone

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in fact if you use it, it just instantly finishes the game

hardy drum
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how does dash attack work with the bow?

deep spade
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bow dash attack is a shot that charges faster but does less damage

runic tartan
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I'd like to see a weapon that forces some kind of health compromise. Like I'm disappointed that the rail's special doesn't hurt you

fiery pebble
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Bows dash attack does 30 damage regularly or 40 with a powershot

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And charges faster

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It also has its own animation

hardy drum
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and what about cast enchantments ||with the bow that loads casts into its attack||?

brisk trail
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wdym

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how much damage does it do? or

hardy drum
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like for example one of chaoses runes boosts the damage of casts by 39%

deep spade
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it applies the damage of your casts to the thing you shoot

hardy drum
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ok thanks

sturdy willow
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it also applies boon effects, I liked the Ares cast on it a lot

granite pecan
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i love festive fog on the hera bow

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its like shooting explosions

sturdy willow
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I'll have to try that

brisk trail
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and it does a ton of damage

visual tiger
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when theres a clock on the heart in the codex, does that mean next dialoge comes in an update?

brisk trail
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120 per cast on the shot is impressively good

sturdy willow
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altough, you could just lob the fog for the same effect couldn't you?

brisk trail
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yeah but lobbing it is slower than shooting it

sturdy willow
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fair point

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I do like that it's slow sometimes, you can pre-lob it on newly spawning enemies

blissful gorge
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90% of greek mythology is "Oh dear, Zeus got busy with something else again, here come the tragedies."

sturdy willow
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speaking of when I looked up Zagreus I saw some sources say Zeus was his father not Hades

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wondered if maybe that's gonna be a twist ending or something

fiery pebble
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Zagreus was an incredibly minor character in greek myth

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As a result, there are conflicting sources

sturdy willow
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it's good place for writers, lets them have more room to work with

foggy kiln
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I feel like there needs to be a Cerberus Emoji on this Discord.

brisk trail
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🐶 🐶 🐶

tired citrus
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Is buying 1 titan blood for 15 keys worth, I'm 10 hours in. Just got to ||Hades fight and lost||

foggy kiln
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Honestly, it depends on how many keys you have, I think

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That boss will get easier as you gain more experience against him.

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Titan Blood is great, but I don't think it's going to catapult you to a MUCH more successful run.

runic tartan
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at 10 hours in, no. keys to unlock a few key things in the mirror and weapons is more important

candid pike
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it depends on how much stuff you unlocked in the mirror already

tired citrus
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Is there ways to get extra titan blood other than the seller after ||escaping||

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or only from beating Meg with a weapon

deep spade
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Keys stop being useful faster than titan blood
and yes, you can get a ton more titan blood later

candid pike
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that was my question too. can i get somehow more titan blood if i already got it with all weapons?

deep spade
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you want to unlock the key mirror upgrades quickly, basically everything up to the two-status damage boost

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after that titan blood is probably more useful

tired citrus
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||What about Ambrosia, is it for like last reputation point after you give someone nectar?||

brisk trail
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yep

deep spade
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yes, and also for upgrading something else much later

brisk trail
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@candid pike yes, after beating the final boss on subsequent runs with harder requirements

candid pike
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yea i already completed game with adamant rifle but havent played another game yet

brisk trail
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using the pact will allow you to get more blood, even on weapons that you haven't finished the game with yet

candid pike
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and what about the clock hearts? i gave cerberus so much nectar but i can´t give him more atm

brisk trail
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i think the clock are waiting for more story in a new patch

fiery pebble
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Clock means not yet implemented

candid pike
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oh okay thanks 😄

heavy summit
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Are there plans to bring Hades to other platforms?

candid pike
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what do you think is the best "trinket"?

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and the best weapon

deep spade
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The best trinket is the broken spear

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0.5/1/1.5 seconds of invuln after taking damage, it's massive for styx and the final fight

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before styx I usually swap around between the coinpurse for free money and various god trinkets to try and influence my boons

candid pike
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i will try that. atm i am using the healing everytime i pick up the darkess and the revieve from skelly

deep spade
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pinned butterfly can be very good if you're careful and take it slow, but you have to keep it equipped the whole time

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yeah nyx cloak is great early when you don't have a lot of health or sources of healing

runic tartan
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@candid pike what build did you use? I've had trouble getting past the final boss with the rail

deep spade
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What you do with the rail is highly dependant on hammer upgrades, IMO. The big ones are Spread Shot, Triple Bomb, and Inescapable Blast. If you get Spread Shot, build into attack damage, if you get Triple Bomb build for special. Inescapable Blast is an amazing slow and makes dealing with fast enemies much easier, and it goes with everything.

candid pike
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@runic tartan i was using the seeking arrows, attack doom, weakness dash, dodge and skelly trinket that´s all i remember i need to start Hades to rcheck more xD

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idk if it´s build but it worked

deep spade
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Note that spread shot counts as a single attack for the purposes of zeus's attack boon, so I'd avoid that combination. It does apply 5xDio poison, though.

candid pike
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like some super advanced build i mean

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i can check if it shows somewhere

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wait can i? xD

fiery pebble
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Keepsakes depend

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But I usually use god keepsakes for the first 3 levels, and either lucky tooth or the acorn for the fourth

brisk trail
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Finally beat a run on 20 heat

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There are no more rewards after 20 heat, damn guys. Why the hell are you guys doing 32 heat runs /s

haughty forum
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Question- when I have a non-build that I desperately want to end, why is it those runs that take me up to the final boss?

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I'm begging to die

harsh plinth
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"Chrion Aspect now blocks the bow hammer upgrade that allows secondary shots to pierce enemies. The reason for this is because if you combined the two the arrows would just continuously circle around the marked target like a ball of angry bees until they died which ...was not exactly the intended way to use it."

Hoo buddy I was using Chiron bow to farm out that hammer upgrade cause it was the last prophecy I needed. Thankfully I switched to Zag aspect cause I was just doing Ares/Athena Duo boon with Doom/Deflect Dash every time. But man I think I did about 15 runs not knowing I couldn't get that upgrade.

fiery pebble
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Because Hades is cruel

signal chasm
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where do we report a bug if we've found one?

haughty forum
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I'm staring down the last door with a Chiron Bow build that's just... nothing

fiery pebble
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F10 ingame

signal chasm
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ah but it's a bit too late now since i've already went past that

fiery pebble
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You can still F10

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Just describe what happened

signal chasm
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ah i see

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lemme just ask here to make sure its not intended to be like that

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u know when u upgrade the elexir gifts thingies to also give pom of power when you pick one up

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if u get one of those elexirs from a trove it doesnt upgrade any of your spells

fiery pebble
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That should be a bug?

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Actually

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Depends on the wording

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Im not 100%

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Still, F10

signal chasm
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yeah me neither thats why i wanted to ask first

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hwo do u call the elixirs

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xd

fiery pebble
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Nectar

valid citrus
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That's probably not a bug

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The upgrades for keys gems and nectar only work on chamber rewards

deep spade
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None of the other trove rewards give the upgraded versions of their reward

valid citrus
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Not trove rewards

deep spade
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e.g. shadows from troves don't give you HP

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so I think it's intended

signal chasm
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Oh they don't? i havent bought that yet so i didnt know

valid citrus
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So it's actually all correct. The wording is rather precise

signal chasm
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ive only noticed it with necatr

haughty forum
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In the Keepsake cupboard, is the secret stash row NYI?

orchid zenith
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Im only a few hours into this game but since its early acces is there and end ?
Dead cells in early access have an end so im just wondering

deep spade
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4 of the 6 secret stash items are available in the current build

hallow kettle
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when ur question wasent answered shadegrief

deep spade
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you can beat the final boss but the ending isn't implemented

signal chasm
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can u dm me how to get them?

valid citrus
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Like when hitting with a basic attack it doesn't actually count a shockwave that is released when using your basic attack. So yeah, it's usually very clear cut

haughty forum
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Ohhh is the secret stash the Ambrosia ones?

orchid zenith
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@deep spade ok good to know thanks

signal chasm
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i havent found out what to do with ambrosia yet lmao

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ive beat the final dude like 7 times already

valid citrus
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I just wanna know if we get dusa plushies

haughty forum
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I haven't cleared final boss yet so I don't know if that's a trigger. Just wasn't sure what they were or if I'd missed their unlocks at some point.

valid citrus
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@signal chasm it's required when you progressed far enough with nectar

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Basically nectar for really special people

analog kayak
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So it's fairly safe to trade off? I think I have a good 15

valid citrus
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Considering you won't need that much... Trade it away xD

analog kayak
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Ahha, thanks

valid citrus
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Though you can use it to upgrade trinkets

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The ones from those special people

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As they are single use per run at the start

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But you can only use them once each encounter

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So it's your decision how valuable that is

haughty forum
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Ambrosia given to ||Nyx, Thanatos, etc.? Non-boon gods.|| I didn't see anything in the wiki when I was poking around,.

valid citrus
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There are 4 people so far you can give it to iirc

flat vapor
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they're given to those ||with hearts that have locks on them||

analog kayak
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I'm still waiting on those events to get them to trigger. Driving me nuts ||since I have 3 people on the locked heart icon. But no events yet ||

haughty forum
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Ah okay I just haven't done enough Nectar yet, then

flat vapor
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||first you have to unlock those hearts, through a triggering event||

valid citrus
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Meeting them in the run might prevent them to spawn so maybe just purposely loose early on? 🤔

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Seemed completely random to me though so no idea

sturdy willow
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Anyone else playing with Keyboard&Mouse?

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I dunno if it's the same with controllers, but the Sword's Q is not targeting towards the cursor? Not sure if this was discussed before

round light
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what is the fastest time you beat meg everyone?

prime mulch
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This game makes me realize how bad I am at video games...

round light
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you will get better

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it's practice

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anyways i beat meg in under 30 seconds

fiery pebble
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Meg?

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I mean, depends on which patch

round light
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yes

fiery pebble
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This one I want to say, hm

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20 seconds?

round light
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nice

fiery pebble
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Most of that was her invuln

round light
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i think i beat her in 15 seconds

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adamantine rail is op

native rose
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really?

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its my least favourite weapon

round light
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i have level 5 rare deadly flourish with triple bomb

gloomy scaffold
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anyone here finished the game in hell mod ? Im stuck on the last 1/4 of the final boss (p2)

round light
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i have never played hades with mods

gloomy scaffold
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no no, hell mod is an option when you start the game

deep spade
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*hell mode

gloomy scaffold
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mode* mb

round light
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oh

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in first save slot?

native rose
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id enable hell mode if i could, but i dont want to loose my collected stuff

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doesnt seem worth it

round light
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ok

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then i probably won't play hell mod until i am bored

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which will be a while

gloomy scaffold
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yep. You have to start a game in hell mode. I did this for my first save ( i kinda love difficulties :p) but damn the last boss is tough x)

native rose
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what exactly does hell mode do

gloomy scaffold
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in hell mode, all ennemy have 25% more dmg and hp, every new room you have 20% more enemy, you can't have more than 2500 obsidian in styx's mirror

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and there is a last thing but i can't remember. Im checking it

native rose
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so it puts the pact to max?

gloomy scaffold
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5 fire skulls minimum when you start a run

rotund finch
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It removes the damage limit as well
So it no longer gives you invincibility if you take too much damage at once

gloomy scaffold
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yeah ! thats it

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the worst is still the +20% enemy x)

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at each room

round light
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i am going to see how fast i can kill hydra now

lyric talon
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@native rose It's far from being a maximum heat pact, but it definitely makes a big difference in the difficulty.

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You can add a bunch of difficulty options on top of it if you want

south pawn
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fighting meg with only cast and the special sure is a pain

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at least with Aegis (the shield) probably typed the name wrong

round light
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2 minutes and 35 seconds

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for hydra

gloomy scaffold
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pretty nice

south pawn
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btw, does Boss fights count as encounters?

native rose
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just beat a run using no death defiance

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and yea

south pawn
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guess, I got hit with a bug then cause the counter on my Chaos boon didn't go down

gloomy scaffold
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the worst bug i had was when i had the "all your benediction are epic" and i took at the same time the item that guarante me to have a higher rarety benediction on the last benediction ill got, and i only got "rare"

grizzled coral
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Hey does anyone know when Orpheus is supposed to show up? I have 41 attempts and have beaten Hades multiple times.

flat vapor
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i believe you have to ||unlock him in the contractor(?)||

teal terrace
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any benefit for running hell mode? more resources or something? or it it only for gluttons for punishment?

haughty forum
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Outside of resource boons, anything interesting I should keep an eye out for from Poseidon's offerings? I'm usually lukewarm on him

native rose
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his duo with diony

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your boons are at minimum epic

haughty forum
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Interesting. Duos just need a minimum of one per god, right?

native rose
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also, second wave

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kinda

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some require specific boons

south pawn
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I like the riptide one

native rose
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you do need a main one

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like, attack cast dash call

south pawn
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at least with aegis

haughty forum
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Was riptide the explosion on wall bash?

native rose
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yes

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that one + second wave can infinte loop

south pawn
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any gods I should look for with the spear?

deep spade
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all of poseidon's knockback effects are great
increased damage, explosion on wall bash, double knockback effect

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his call is also secretly really good

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spear is pretty flexible

haughty forum
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I had that last run when I desperately wanted death, and his call was my only source of AoE

deep spade
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I like ares on attack for the spear, because it's got a really big dash attack AoE and you can slap doom on everything while dodging around

haughty forum
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I'll just try focusing on blue a bit more, then. I was just avoiding his stuff because it tended to non-bo more often than not

teal terrace
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Dionysus for rapid poison stacks

haughty forum
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Aphrodite lets you stack up to 7, too

deep spade
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yeah i'd prefer status or flat damage effects with the spear rather than percentage boosts

round light
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and i just beat hades for the first time

deep spade
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gratz

native rose
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now you can start suffering

round light
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why?

native rose
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youll see

deep spade
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you just unlocked the pact of pain

round light
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oh

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ok

teal terrace
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Pact of punishment

round light
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lol

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i saw that in a playthrough

viscid flicker
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doom on spear special and a couple of points in zagreus aspect is enough to beat things without interacting with them, though kinda miserable to do without more buffs

teal terrace
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i think i'm doing something wrong or something, I've beaten hades with all weps EXCEPT the shield and that's supposed to be the goat wep

deep spade
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shield is about taking it a bit slower and safer, blocking an attack and then countering with a bull rush

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you can block basically every attack in the game IIRC, including hades's big green AoE waves

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so just take it slow and learn to block

viscid flicker
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with that slow playstyle, doom on attack is pretty good

flat vapor
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hey remember, discussion about a certain boss is considered spoilers

deep spade
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it's the most obvious thing in the game, though
almost as obvious as what the ending is going to be after they implement it

flat vapor
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even as such, these things are meant to be discussed in the spoilers or gameplay channel

haughty forum
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spoiler tags are easy anyway. double vert bar on each side. |

warped thunder
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do i need to beat the game to unlock those aspect things?

deep spade
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IIRC you need to do a run with every weapon

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but it's been a while, i might be wrong