#h1-discussion
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so imma hope to god that the final version will be mac compatible like all other games
well hopefully either geforce NOW reaches out to supergiant, or supergiant gets osx, because i very much wanna binge the game xD
thanks
Did they port any of their previous games to OSX?
all of them to my knowledge
tbh hope we can downgrade wep upgrade so i can have my bounce shield back
Well then, they probably will eventually. Might not be till it’s out of early access
so 2020 at the earliest
so now i both want it outta early access and dont, cause the longer its early access the better the content will probly get
That’s only true to a point.
I have seen games that kinda just keep adding stuff until they’re not good anymore.
yeah they cant just pull a permenant early access
Stranded Deep and The Culling come to mind.
@feral kayak i waited for two things - Steam and Russian language. Now i.m almost happy
warframe has been in early access for 7 years +
but in my opinion, all their games have ended up AAA in my opinion
It’s different for every game.
for every dev*
yeah but still, all their games have been top notch
died, but love playing thermonuclear crit bow
chiron aspect?
No zag
i'm playing chiron now
burst dmg is op
but low aoe dmg
if only i had more titan blood)
so curious how active are the devs here
Chiron is fun w/ poison.
i do not understand poison at all
It can boost your DPS up if you have a fast attack weapon.
It's basically risk-free extra damage, handy for bosses and phases where you do not wanna' get close to them.
It's so good on the special
i used it in conjunction with my dash when using the sword
Poison i mean
Poison is extra good if you can stack it up fast.
Free five stacks of poison on big enemies
Like- Chiron Aspect, Rail, Spear-
They have the best time with poison.
Though if you really want free dps, try to get Spear with the no spin but constant attacks, then Artemis's "Attacks cause tracking arrows" Boon.
Boom.
You have become death, destroyer of worlds.
Same works too with Rail with "Infinite Ammo."
I still think artemis boon with the triple special is best damage with exagryph but yeah poison and arrow support is great on its standard attack
hate this wheel things
Poison can become really insane. Like 400 damage poison ticks strong
both
little one is just annoying but big can hit u twi or three times
and take 40-50 hp
I just dislike Spreaders the most.
Because I can't for the life of me play Bullet Hell.
Just pick athena and laugh at them
Athena dash is the biggest crutch there is.
And I love it.
Because I cannot for the life of me stop dashing.
-im salty bout not being able to play the game xD
'
so who do you guys think the next god teased in the trailer is?
Demeter.
im thinking it has to be hera or demeter
Wheat stalks and a cornacopia, so it's either Demeter or someone else stealing her stuff.
Or a really big horn.
if its demeter i guess zag can just get a bunch of corn from her boons
trailer link pls
No clue what her boons would be.
Hades is a god-like rogue-like dungeon crawler from the creators of Bastion and Transistor. Come take a tour through the Underworld in this gameplay video, and play now in Early Access on Steam (http://bit.ly/hadessteam) and the Epic Games Store (http://bit.ly/hadesegs).
It's a brief screen shot near the end. You'll want to pause it.
so dose anyone know about the secret stashes?
Bye.
If you mean the locked sections at the bottom of the keepsake cabinet, then yes...people know about them. 😛
If you want to know more, you should probably step over to #spoiler chat.
Wow... Entered this level with a lady singing a nice song
=)
it is a nice song
My brother and I were talking about which olympian would be next
We thought the top three candidates were Apollo, Hephaestus, and Demeter
and if that is a cornucopia then Demeter makes perfect sense
also she was Persephone's mother
Maybe there is no Apollo in Hades
and she travelled to the underworld to find her
I'm thinking her call could be a big ol' scythe
maybe she could have a lifesteal or regen sort of theme
¯_(ツ)_/¯
@iron snow A lil late to the convo, but https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNYOiFoJ0IE this is what that song is 😛
The new song from Supergiant's latest game Hades features the much awaited return of Ashley Barret. The official version has both Eurydice (Ashley) and Orpheus (Darren Korb) but the main in-game version just has Eurydice so I recorded it for anyone who enjoys that version.
O...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yco-B4BSaj4 And there's this version too!
Play now in Early Access on Steam (http://bit.ly/hadessteam) and the Epic Games Store (http://bit.ly/hadesegs).
Lyrics:
Farewell
To all the earthly remains
No burdens
No further debts to be paid
Atlas
Can rest his weary bones
The weight of the world
All falls away
In tim...
That is twice now my hands stopped moving when I walked into a room with nothing but Ashley and Darren's guitar playing in a SGG game.
What was the first one?
"Build That Wall" in Bastion.
Walked into the room, took just enough steps for the song to register, and freeze.
Transistor was for me like 'how I susposed to play this?', because I enjoyed staying in some places and just hear
Also happened with "Someone Is Always Moving On The Surface" at the main menu of Armored Core: For Answer.
Ohhhh damn. Time to look these up, thanks 😄
I'll link them in music, hang on.
oh.. thanks for that link.. going to download it to listen
and not listen while in-game.. haha
Anyone know if the "Buy Hades now, get the OST" promotion is still live?
Is there an audio queue for when the Rocket Bomb has reloaded?
There's a low-ish "ka-chunk".
A little lower than the Attack reload.
I wanna say Rocket Bomb also fires slightly faster?
I think the firerate might be dependent on time after the projectile has exploded and since there's no arc like the normal bomb it explodes sooner
I'm struggling to know when the thing is available. Trying to listen for a cue but there's a lot of noise going on in a fight
on the other hand I just spammed a god's break while they were displeased for me and the voicelines where hilarious
nah I didn't wait, but I might try later
it doesn't seem like there is any indication of when the Rocket Bomb reload
I'm shooting stuff in Charon's store and nothing
FFFF lost to Theseus at like 5%
@scenic glade Hera and Hestia might also be possible candidates, even though Hestia is not an Olympian anymore (she gave up her spot for dionysus in greek myth), but she does have quite a bit of lore
I mean... exagriff 
"Don't get hit" - Hypnos
Well, if you're looking for how to escape from hell, most of it comes down to practice, so take your time
For the first few times, you could try sticking with one weapon to get a feel for the game's mechanics and the different boons
Are you new?
||Because there is great little talk about it between Hypnos and Meg where he give her tips how to fight with zag: just dont get hit :)||
Its the worst feeling when you had to leave a run and come back and youre super deep in it and have forgotten every mechanic.
Idk if someone noticed but Hades was in top 10 bestsellers on global steam list. Atm 11. Place.
It's kinda hard to when you bought it already.
It just vanishes into thin air
I duuno what is more facinating 98% positive reviews out of 2.6k reviews. Or that russian guy who wrote a novel with review built in.
98% positive? Wow, glad I was wrong about the hatedom.
Well the "ewww egs" are there, but it seems they were not that determined to drag the game down.
I find most of that stuff is on Facebook
overwhelmingly positive
egs?
epic game store
ah
Does anyone know the name of the theme that plays during Hydra boss fight?
finally beat the boss the first time using blade with 54% damage resistance from god mode
so noob.. died too much till need to have such high damage resistance
earlier i was doing my runs normal mode, but at about 15+ still cant pass meg... so decided to switch to god mode and start again fresh. learn how to play the easier way first
plan to do spear next with god mode too.. try to beat the boss once with all weapons in god mode then only move up normal mode
The game is a lot about just learning your muscle memory and what enemies do, it took me like 15 times to beat Tartarus when i first started playing and my hard drive failed recently so i had to start from scratch, only took 6 times to finish the entire game.
Just keep playing and you'll get better, in that sense God mode is helpful becuse you can play each attempt for longer
The more you play, the better you get, whoda thunk it.
I'm rewriting the entire concept of gaming here
Jokes aside- if you are new to dungeon crawlers with bullet hell aspects, it will take time to adjust.
But-
i hadn't played since a bit after they added elysium, killed hydra 4 times in the first 9 runs on a new save
de-rusting 😔
This game has the nuttiest dopamine hits you could ever imagine.
Getting just the right boons-
Ugh.
while playing blade, a lot of times i cant see where my character is moving with the dash
so was dashing and smashing things blindly
Yeah, I had that too. It takes time to adjust to see where you are, and use the dash and dash attack both offensively and defensively at the same time.
I always forget to use the extra dash you can grab from Hermes
olympian trinkents wont work if u take it after 1st floor?
They still work.
their boon rarity increase still works
If you canged into other god trinket, it will work as promised.
I think Hermes is an exception, kinda like the Chaos gates?
hermes can "run ahead" of other gods but the next boon after that will be guaranteed the one you chose it seems
mb
but i got hermes
i got chaos
i got HP
and only after all that
i had Artemida's boon
Yeah so it just gurantees the next boon you receive will be from that God, not that the next powerup you receive will be a boon. And Hermes and Chaos appear to be exceptions and don't count as Gods for the purposes of those trinkets.
well Chaos is entirely a choice thing so they don't need to count
and I think Hermes has special dialogue sometimes when you have the keepsakes on so it might be on purpose?
hermes is def on purpose
his boons dont take up the main slots, he's not one of the standard main gods
unfortunately when you're trying to take advantage of the keepsake to use ariadne's it's annoying :c
anyway this run is ruined with no correct upgrade for hammer(
wah new to the game first time i try the first boss, i finish with 1 hp
is it a bug that u can cancel pause between autoattack with dash?
guys is anyone knows youtuber or twitch chanel who did than max heart route? I saw only meg romance and i cant play the game myself 😫😫
wut
Question, do we absolutely have to use the Pact of Punishment?
no you can still start runs without turning anything on
you do have to use it if you want more bounties though
Keys are no longer needed to open chests, but you need to buy chests themselves from contractor.
Hey. What time is the QnA starting? Last time it happened like 4am where I'm at lol
Do special attack effects (lightning for example) not strike multiple times with the chiron aspect? Seems like it doesn't which is a bit balls...
It does not you are correct
As to it being balls you are also correct
But that's just for lightning
Poseiden knocks back several times, posion stacks up immediately etc
Oooh, I wasn't aware of that...seems odd to single out lightning...
Maybe they think it's too much burst damage
Sorta makes sense
But you can recreate it with poseiden knock back + Zeus duo
In that case each knock back instance causes lightning
somehow can not agree and cant disagree
In that case each knock back instance causes lightning
But probably it works the same way, it cause animation but damage once
Do you guys plan to start a new save when the 1.0 comes out or are you going to keep playing on your old ones?
Just tried spear the first time. Seems weak compared to blade
Barely can use the swing attack. Pressing hold is slow
Spear can be really strong with the right upgrades. Personally prefer it over blade. Mainly for the special
swing attack is a relatively high risk attack compared to others tho ye
Have to try more with different boon
Okay - So i gotta ask a question here. Did I just take 100+ damage in 0.1 sec or is this a Death Defiance Bug?
At 18sec exactly
To me it looked like I only took 20dmg but Defy Death triggered randomly
But I guess I DID somehow take 90dmg. I just dont see how
@tiny sage I also had this bug happen to me twice
oh no so it might really be a bug?
Just came about 5 hits close to beating the Elysium Boss for the first time and then died
this hurts :')
I'll keep believing its not a bug so it hurts less
it looks like you're on hell mode what with the lack of mercy invincibility there
oh wait
maybe the whole "charmed enemies will still hit you and do WAY more damage" thing is..... still a thing
I'm not playing on hell mode
so yeah - the charmed thing also came to mind for me
didn't know it used to be a thing but considering the damage i would have had to take to get that triggered the buffed up charmed attack is the only thing that would work
yeah, looking at the footage, you charmed one of the shield dudes and then dashed right up next to him, and presumably got smacked for a Lot of damage
oh well. yet another reason why this is my least favourite call :')
@pulsar valley good question, i'll be sad to see my grinding progress go but i guess i probably will start a new save once the narrative is complete
I think my only complaint about the game is it becomes very RNG once you reach your skill ceiling.
Specifically talking about|| heat mode.||
does exclusive acces drop from both dyo and poseidon?
Duo boons can drop from either of their associated gods, provided you meet the requirements
I always loved supergiant's art, but never the type of games they made. but hades is the best action-rpg dungeon crawler ive ever played!
Yeah, I pretty sure Charmed enemies still done tons of extra damage to you, I've gotten hit like that a few times now and that's the only thing i can figure that's doing it
So long story short, i bought the game last saturday and showed it to some friends, 6 of them have bought it already😂 😂
To be honest i did nothing special to convince them, they just watched me playing It and the game did the rest since it's awesome to Watch as It is to play it
we getting achievements soon?
impressive, i can only get 1 and he is a huge fan of Greek mythology already
My convincing skillz aren't that good so I gifted it to 2 friends and gave my 2 extra Pyre copies to 2 others who were interested.
Casting the Supergiant net as far as possible :^)
❓
The one cousin I actually already had a present for put Hades on his wishlist so now I guess I'm making it rain for him this xmas.
why do the chariots make cat noises
because the bigger ones make big cat noises
seems legit
I was watching Dodger play Hades on stream and the game bugged out. Is there a place to report this in the Discord since we can't send a bug report? link to clip: https://clips.twitch.tv/CorrectYawningKoalaPartyTime
Apparently Freya was depicted riding a cat-pulled chariot a lot
Wrong mythology tho so idk :')
it's because they're nemean chariots - as in, the lion heracles killed that one time?
The wild land of Nemea is perhaps best known for the monstrous lion slain by the hero Herakles during one of his many labors, oft-told still. The visage of this beast became a symbol of its prideful chariot-riders[...]
ugh
I'm so bad at this game
I had an absolutely amazing run
Artemis cast, Poseidon aspect on the sword, exit wounds, fully loaded
Just cast all 6 at one guy, hope for some crits, then nova smash him and watch him take 6*200 damage from all the casts getting knocked out of him
and I still lost to the final boss
after about 15 good runs i managed to defeat him just now for the first time
took me closer to 30 runs to beat him for the first time
and I've still only beaten him with the Shield
i went with bow
what build did u use with shield?
i cant decide whats better if going full special or attack
with normal shield, i havent unlocked the other aspects yet
idk what the first one was
The second one was what I call "The Yeet Cannon"
basically full Poseidon
lol
I took the attack, rupture, double knockback legendary, the AoE blast and extra damage when you wall slam
plus a nice Doom effect on my special so I could get that sweet Privileged Status damage bonus
it was awesome
sounds like a lot of fun
I could walk into a room of tiny vermin, press X once, and watch them all ricochet like pinballs around the room and die instantly
poseidon builds are so much fun in styx
agreed
and then you reach the final boss and are very, very sad
unless you've also got Doom and I think the Ares call as well
and have the shield so you can block like 90% of his attacks
i've had a lot of succes with artemis call on last boss
I wish you didn't need Rupture for Poseidon to be good against bosses
depending on lvl and rarity it cand deal between 25-50% max hp dmg
like if knockback converted into extra damage for enemies who are immune to it
but i guess that's maybe the point
knockback is so good against regular enemies that it has to be weak to bosses to stay balanced
Hello is save and quit option available in this game? 😄
you can quit in the middle of a run, the game autosaves often
You mean can i quit in every moment and game save this?
not quite
you can quit after clearing a room, if you try to leave before you're done with whatever room you're in your run is trashed
also you can't quit from a pre-boss room after grabbing the reward
In the top right a little red trident like icon flashes every time the game has been saved.
You should see it when you go from one room the the next.
I was actually so surprised and pleased to learn that the game saves after every room!
One of the worst feelings is getting into a good run in a roguelite only to run out of time in the real world and have to leave it all behind.
congrats!
thx
acidently had a nice combo
double boon from Ares and Artemida
and Legendary one from her for 3 more blodstone charge
+1 from shop and 5 deadly vortexes
but it was still very tough fight
22nd run btw
and russian translate makes my eye trembling
=)
love the game so far! but I wish I could play it with controller, I'm not used to keyboard and my fingers are not long enough to reach all buttons comfortably x.x
that's all I do Is play with controller, i'm confused
It is controller compatible if you have one that works with PC!
oh? 😮 I need to try it out then, does it work with the PS4 controller?
haven't tried it yet but i'm fairly certain you should be able to
I'm not very pc savy
i usually play with an X1 controller
You should be able to install the drivers for a ps4 controller, might take a bit of googling first tho!
I somehow got the ps3 controller running on my old laptop, so I hope technology is far enough now to make it easier now lol
Thanks very much for the Info tho, looking forward to playing it more even more now^^
If you run with too much heat does it still go up by 1 for the weapon if you win?
Thanks
If an attack or special applies doom or posion do the doom and posion also benifit from bonus damage to that attack?
I think the damage is separate
That's fair
huh, i literally joined the discord today to ask that
feels kinda counter intuitive if the +special/attack boons dont actually buff the primary effect of your doom/poison attack or special
It seems intuitive to me, why would it show a certain status value yet always have different actual value because of the +attack% given by the same boon?
Plus, Artemis' boons give way lower damage bonuses than others precisely because her effect stacks with +damage%
artemis' boon giving less damage is fine considering, just that out of all of the +attack or +special dmg boons work with all of the attack/special skills, except for ares/dio.
i get that technically theres the attack component and the debuff component is separate, but when the value is on the damage from that debuff, all of the special/attack boon bonuses feel like theyre focusing on the part of the ability that doesnt really matter
Just a trade off if you want to focus on this or that
No cloud save on Epic games?
not that its great, but you can transfer the save files over pretty easily
I'm testing out the shield, what is the best build for shield?
thanks for the reply guys
If an attack or special applies doom or posion do the doom and posion also benifit from bonus damage to that attack?
If a modifier says it specifically increases "Attack" "Special" "Cast" or "Dash Attack" or something similar to that, it will not increase poison damage.
If a modifier says "you do increased damage" and doesn't specify what it applies to (Eris Aspect on the Rail, Thanatos' Butterfly) it applies to all damage you do from all sources.
How many heat levels are there?
32
No it keeps going
It's like 45 or something is the max heat
32 is just the highest in which you get a reward that isn't the normal bounties
The heat is tied to the weapon? So if i am at heat 10 with blade, will the other weapons follow or start from heat 1?
Ic. Ok. Thanks
Hey so I just cleared the game twice tonight after 25hrs, and I think I'm done with the game as far as I care about so far: what is the expected release date of this game? 2020? 2021?
nevermind, its mentioned in the hades-info chat
2020, not exact date*
what's the highest heat you can get bounties for?
The maximum heat in the game is 45 (here is a lovely screenshot of my soon to be personal hell)
https://imgur.com/a/mWccdW6
if you max the heat gauge, you make the heat gauge cry too
max heat for bounties is 20 (25 in hell mode)
btw I seriously dont think this is possible with any weapon
not even the shield
I tried it with the Rail, couldn't even get past the miniboss in Tartarus
(and when I died I had 2 minutes left)
32 is probably doable. Awfully difficult, but doable
45 I think is legitimately impossible.
ok i dunno if people are going to hate me for that comparison but when that last Five Nights game came out, which had literally all the possible enemies, there was literally only one dude who could go through it all without passing out of tension
maybe it'll end up being the same case here (minus the health problems i hope)
in that case it was a run with all possible enemies maxed out on difficulty, with were 50 different things
thats why i find it hard to repeat here
which*
My damage resistance is at 54%
If i keep losing
Will it hit 100%
Then will be true God mode
They don't reset the damage resistance
So eventually will hit 100%
That's 1 way to finish all the heat the newbie way
ok wow
When in doubt, keep dying!
you'll get back there anyway
@iron snow he highest i’ve heard someone getting it is 80%!
ok sure hope they cap it
How is the artemis support arrow meant to work with things like Bow Special
I get why it doesnt shoot one for every hit I guess, but it seems like it doesnt even always register a hit
It's for every full attack cycle.
Flurry Shot would fire for every arrow you shoot.
Any full Attack, Special, or Cast cycle.
@frail lark Its notrally the type of game you simply beat once or twice. The mode of the story and the gameplay loop its designed to be living and engaging. If youve had your fun, then on release or when they make the next big update with a new character you might care enough to play more
also gosh I wish chaos shield aspect and explosive return had the synergy I thought they would
but you only catch the primary shield :/
is the reason shield is tiered so highly mainly due to dmg reduction?
Not just damage reduction, complete immunity. If it's not an AoE attack and it hits the shield, you don't take damage.
makes sense, I can see that being vital as you up the heat
just wish i didnt find its aspects and hammer traits to be so underwhelming compared to other things on offer
the base kit is amazing

Does anyone actually use casting? I've consistently built runs to avoid it and not spent any darkness on it.
casting?
Getting Boiling Blood on bosses can be helpful, and some Casts can be really strong if you build around them, i typically dont focus on them, but they are always really helpful
The strongest build in the game is a Cast build.
Ares/Artemis Duo Boon for Ares Cast is like the best thing available
Hunting blades
Yup.
casting is throwing this red stones?
I have yet to have any luck with cast builds.
yes, your cast can change with boons though
The sword upgrade being able to dislodge the cast stones is pretty legit, but even with that I have been underwhelmed
this ares/artemida boon is strong stuff
I've only been playing for 5 hours, I guess i should just experiment more
There are good cast builds, you have to build for them though. You can get 6+ stones to throw, and Artemis's boon that does damage on knock out is a whole lot of damage, plus the sword aspect that forces the knock out, mmm yeah
Aphrodite's cast is all around good if you want to shotgun it into enemies.
I've had a lot of good runs with Poseidon's too, it has a huge radius and good damage
plus knockback
huh, didn't think it'd shotgun, how does it interact with hera aspect?
Yeah esp is you get a bunch of add on effects to knock backs
The best cast build I have had is posideon cast, with the knock into wall buff and rupture
I had a 7 cast Ares/Artemis build the other day. Ares legendary plus all the buffs to rifts. It was kind of silly and nothing was a challenge.
Was at 9 or 10 heat for that one with the shield just throw rifts and block up
That being said, my favorite builds so far have been a mix of attack damage buffs and dash damage buffs, and then dash attack for mad damage. Did a run in less than 30 minutes, it blew my mind....
Bruh, wait until you break 20. That's a good feeling.
Oh yeah, I love the Zeus shield aspect with dashing wallop, just mow everything down
What yall think best weapon for speed runs will be
My fastest so far is 24 min with the shield, just with the hammer upgrade to do aoe damage on catch, nothing much beyond that. just spam throwing and clearing rooms.
Sword and Rail.
Maaaybe Spear if you spawn into Quick Spin and get early Deadly Strike.
My fastest have been shield as well. But, I assume sword would probably best best since it has the built in staggering
is there a cap for dodge chance?
I think my fastest was 23 min railgun. Spreadshot poison build. Basically got the duo boon before Hydra and everything just melted. I wasn't even going that fast and taking my sweet time choosing rooms. Though I think my cast build would have been a great contender if I didn't decide to grind for money to buy a diamond lol
@inland shell Hey yeah, so I didnt quite realise theres customisation to weapons, so thats pretty cool.
Anybody know if there will be a reset when the games leaves early access?
so far the estimate is no, but we'll only know once we are close to that date I think?
They said they'll do everything they can to prevent that
It could wipe hundreds of hours
awesome! thanks for the quick reply. ya i was hoping that would be the case
so what happened with #hades-suggestions
tbh if they made figures/statues i will get cerberus in a heartbeat
that would be so cool, man i love the character designs in this game
👏 GIVE 👏 US 👏 A 👏 DUSA 👏 PLUSH 👏
nah cerberus plush
Bouldy plush, he is so round
but cerberus
Although they said they will try their best not to reset but when achievements come, likely certain things need to redo
Cerberus is not a good boi, he makes me kill all the vermin to progress
but all he wants is food and wont kill u
Listening to Out of Tartarus at work...
Production is not normally this high
Good motivator

Hey, is there anything I'm likely to have missed out on by beating the final boss too early (run ~10) in this save?
I don't think so.
Just wondering because I just met ||Tisiphone|| without seeing any of the House conversations about ||Hades bringing in the other Furies to stop Zag|| first
Oh, I thought you meant permanently missable content that wasn't dialog.
of course I saw those on my first save, i'm just like "what else might i be missing out on" lol
I don't think there's anything missable like that.
Hades isn't like Tales of the Abyss, where if you miss any of several minor sidequests in the first 15 hours, you miss a sprawling and character-enriching sidestory that ends in tragedy.
ugh that sounds like a questionable design choice
Yeah, I never did that sidequest because some of the windows are so absurdly tight that if you don't sequence break at the EXACT right time, just completely kill any main quest momentum to advance the web you lost the whole thing.
I think at one point I said "...I am not slow-walking across this entire in-game continent for just lore."
Game-long sidequests for Infinity +1 Swords? If I have to restart my game and do some crazy challenge for Super Stygius, I'm in.
(to get slightly more on-topic)
good old game, kill skelly 1000 times to upgrade Stygius
yeah i guess that's still way better than 1000 convos with Hades
I've had the same concern on my game @vast shell , having completed my first run on #7
the dialogue still comes up later
from what I can tell its basically just backlogging different context-based conversations and only giving you the most relevant recent one
but as you keep going and get through them all it cycles back around to the other stuff
I recorded my final fight with my Cast build and it was critting for over 2k
@remote lily #h1-story-discussion or #h1-builds-and-combat if you’re discussing the final boss by name please!
i mean its the most obvious final boss ever but sure
I just got the "Maid Dusa" pun. OH MY GOD, it's genius!
I‘m wondering is there a way to refund titan blood like darkness. I tried the melee weapons and it's fun. It take me 30min to beat Zeus, however it take twice the time to use the range weapon. I tried to upgrade the range weapon with titan blood but I have used it all over the place. I don't want to be fixed on a particular weapon, is there a way to do it other than start all over?
there is not
You'll get a lot more titan blood later, don't worry about it
Why hades is more popular than pyre?
Both of them are great games
It bugs me why people favor the other
action rpg roguelite is a popular genre
visual novel basketball isnt
and a fresh roguelike was in demand
the last one I can remember is streets of rogue
or dead cells
because it's new
naw, thats not the reason
pyre was new once too
and it wasnt that popular then either
Is it normal for me to be getting absolutely destroyed on double boon rooms?
yes
I'm about 8 hours in, gotten to the third act boss twice and died there
Is there any resource I should really be focusing on
like gems, darkness, keys
Aww, but my friends like nectar
just making sure there's not something super important to prioritise
like there's some hidden 500 gem purchase that completely changes the game
what weapon U use
I was surprised how short the game is but that's early access for you can't wait for more content
not sure if I'll like it, really liking the spear
i wouldnt call hades short
Yeah, kind of a silly thing to say.
For a game with this much variety and replayability
I would
Hey I would like to ask, how do I reset the bounties in hell mode? do I have to finish the game first?
yes
i wouldnt even call one full run of hades short compared to one run of other roguelites
i got to final boss after 4 hours and I was nowhere near final boss at 4 hours into boi
I lost to him but still
that just means you are a good player of hades and werent a good player of boi ¯_(ツ)_/¯
you aren't wrong
but I would say hades end boss is equivalent to like Mom's heart in time it takes with the average run
i dont think any new content will make runs longer
i recall hearing that they wont be adding new/further biomes anymore, but i might be mistaken
How is the length of a biome determined?
devfam is judging by time spent on a successful run
I would certainly pay extra for more floors
i suppose they could add more chambers per biome, just as a number tweak, not new content
idk if thats a good idea though
I'm comparing it to my performance in other roguelikes which is of course apples to oranges
well I'd like new biomes after the last boss
but any new content will be greeted with open arms really
someone on here mentioned unused parts of the underworld from mythology, but they'd all come before the final boss even if they were added
Final biome will be ||fighting up mount Olympus to beat up Zeus and take back Persephone after finding out all of Hades anger issues stem from Zeus kidnapping his wife because of a game of truth and dare that went too far.||
big if true
What weapon is the best if there is one and whats the most fun to use?
both are very subjective
So basically whatever feels better to use?
pretty much
thanks
I've always enjoyed the spear in Bastion so naturally I gravitated to it in this game too. I have no idea how good it is though, just my play style
is there a limit to how many boons you can have?
only how you can meet/how many exist
and only 1 main boon for each of the 5 abilities
when I first played, I assumed that 7 or 9 was the max (however many show on screen) so I'd keep picking rooms that didn't have boons because I thought I'd already filled up
just saw the devs play a game and they had like 20 and I was like, oh
press the back button, it shows a loooot of slots
there are some that are locked to certain slots but a lot are just addons
I think there's kind of a bias towards ranged weapons being better but really they're all fine
and there really is only one weapon that isnt ranged
is the shield ranged? I haven't played with it yet
and even then you can go cast
I play bow melee tho
it's special is, yes, narwhal
the sword is the only real melee
spear has insane range especially with the hammer upgrade
not even considering the special
I like to use flurry jab, that feels close range too
are there any streamers you guys recommend? I only started Hades recently when it was released on Steam, but am traveling out of the country right now and can't play til I get back home
Celerity is ok
Hades is not his main game though
hey, folks, how do I use Ambrosia? The new square bottle thingy
I have maxed out Skelly, and he has a lock, but U can't give it to him
do I have to also max conversations?
Yes, you need to make them talk
where can I check my death defiance?
ah nvm
the two little icons next to my health bar
how do i get the early access role assigned to me
Read the pins in #hades-feedback
thank you
Hey guys I found a bug, where should I report it?
F10 in-game!
thanks fam
so I have a screenshot of the bug but I can't upload it since I'm in the menu right now, is there any way to upload it?
Upload it to imgur and paste the image link in a fresh bug report is what I’d do
Maybe i didn't get used to the Sword, but for me it is underwhelming. Which are your to go perks for the Sword? Are there some tricks?
Sword special builds are really powerful!
Is the gameplay similar to Dead Cells or Neon Chrome?
so I know what blood is for. But whats the point of the others?
guess I havent gotten to that point yet
renos wind up being very helpful as moments of calm during your runs ... you can have the Contractor (shade who sits to on Hades' left) build healing chambers in each region
or you can have them create infernal troves and the like for regions
Can someone do me a favor? I've only beaten the game twice, but both times I've mashed the A button to get out of the pool of blood (just muscle memory at this point), which has closed whatever modal it is that pops up when you first respawn after winning. Can someone tell me what it says (if necessary, in the hades-spoilers channel, if it has spoiler stuff in it) ?
just says the prince's story will continue at a later date
Got it, thanks much.
personally I think it's a nice touch from the devs as an early access thing ... fits into the narration nicely
I like the little touches of keeping the story and flavor text in line with the Early Access improvements.
Hello, is there a way to see the builds I used in previous runs?
whats better for a spear with flurry , purple curse of agony (93 doom dmg) or heroic tempest (+69% atk dmg and knockback)
@compact garden Dead Cells is probably the closest rouge-like to Hades in my opinion. The combat is very similar to Bastion if you played that.
Hey everyone! Quick questions: do the keepsakes from the gods work? For example the adamant arrowhead. It says in the description that the next boon I find will be from Artemis and it has a 10% chance to be rare or higher. But it doesn't seem to work as described?
what do you mean?
I mean from the description it suggests that the next boon I find will belong to Artemis. But that is not the case. Am I missing something?
if you do it at the start, you can still get the hammer
it's just that if a boon appears it'll be atermis
I don't know it works for doors and stuff
it does
the next time you get a boon, it will be artemis (or it’ll be hermes, but he sneaks in by being speedy and you won’t miss your chance at a guaranteed boon)
it doesn’t guarantee that the next reward you get will be a god boon
just that when one shows up, it’ll be the god you picked
nicely put
imagine a full Hermes run
he doesn't have damage buffs though :c
speed is power, i'm speed
gotta go fast
it gives the guaranteed boon once and then it’s done
it doesn’t give another if you keep it on in the next biome
Will we have more Thanatos pictures in future updates? All my friends love him and they wish to have more
hades devs please remove souls from getting the defect perk when you anger athena. just used 2 death revives trying to kill the same 6 shield guys, who kept reving due to the souls take 0 damage from my attacks
lmao
How do you kill shield guys fast? They’re so tanky
Dash behind
puncha their buns
spear ftw
Mortar them
Holy crap. When you are doing a poison build and get the choice between shop (600g) Dio and Aphro AND Dio
I Think the only question I would have for super giant is when do we get a bouldy ambrosia?
Where do we ask the questions btw?
@last shell for GreatShields, I usually have a Poseidon boon on my main attack, then just push them back into a wall, and wall slam them to death. Certainly works for the shield and rail that I prefer
Artemis pierces shields
I always grab the Sisyphus Keepsake at the start of Elysium and abuse the respawning traps, it makes most enemies a joke.
Their AI makes no attempt to avoid getting hit by bombs, falling rocks, or the arrows that the statues regularly fire.
With how slow those arrows move you'd think I'd get hit less than 100s of times but... you'd be wrong
:c
yo, what would you people say if there was a boon that made the special suck the enemies together?
it would work pretty well with the gun
where most hammer upgrades pierce or do AOE damage
ares? not quite what youre saying but close enough
i forget what it's called, the blade rift pull boon
This might be an unpopular opinion, but I really don't think that Orpheus's voice actor fits. You can clearly tell that it's a woman doing the dialogue when he talks normally, and when Orpheus starts to sing, you can tell that it's a man
2 Completely different voices
engulfing vortex is the boon from ares that brings them in
Thanks @runic tartan I’ll try that
really useful. pick it up when you can
was thinking a special boon where that would pull in enemies would make the gun better
Sticky bomb upgrade 👀
Wow I'm 1min late for my question, disgusted D:
seeing as so far i find both ranged weapons to be quite underpowered compared to the melee ones
Now to find out if Bouldy will get a story line about saving christmas and if Chaos will ever get nipples
the gun is so good already tho 🙂
i just got my first escape with the bow this morning
"how do I word this.... Oh nvm"
the gun is great but i can never get the hang of it
My problem with the bow is that it requires you to pretty much get an upgrade really early on
the gun's triple special is bomb af
If you end up in Asphodel without an upgrade, it's a real pain
weapon upgrade to clarify
i got ares on the bows attack as my first boon
yea i get that but i still feel that melee weapons are better
i dunno, melee weapons put you in danger too much imo
but that probably means the game is balanced well?
Am i the only considering the gun a little over the top compared to the others weapons?
that we can have different opinions like that
spear for life
I personally prefer melee weapons over the ranged weapons, but maybe I'm just an elite gamer 
well i might be bad at aiming which is causing this opinion it just seems so much easier to kill enemies with sword, shield or spear
My favourite weapon is probably the sword, my least favourite is the shield
A chain weapon ala Kratos would be amazing, or a scythe 😩
@brisk trail I actually really like the difference between Orpheus's speaking voice and his singing voice. In part because a higher speaking voice lets me headcanon him as trans more naturally, and in part because singing and speaking voices don't always actually sound that similar.
Yeah, gun is really good compared to bow... I actually dislike bow unless I get the "four extra arrows" or "rapid fire instead of charge" daedalus upgrade for it.
I don't know if a scythe would be much different than spear
Other than the stab bit
Scythe= AOE/ Spin attacks
make it opposite of the spear, less range more aoe
I think fist weapons would be awesome but that might be too much like the shield with knock backs
Similarly, I think the spear's versatility just flat-out outdoes the sword. Long reach, a charged aoe, and a ranged attack. Only thing the sword has on it is an instant aoe.
Oh, Orpheus is trans? @ivory remnant
I hope for a giant axe or maybe a dual wield thing like fists
Spear is more like dash n spin or stabby boi
the next weapon is going to be a ranged weapon
I feel as though we need to add a fist weapon for getting bouldy to the ambrosia stage
we've got 3 melee weapons on the left, and 2 ranged weapons and an empty slot on the right
@brisk trail probably not canonically, but it's fun to headcanon him that way.
Bouldy aspect
Yeah bring it in on the bouldy saves christmas update
I want to pick up enemies and throw them at each other
I just thought it was some odd character art. But as I said before, unpopular opinion
😛
the 6th weapon will be bouldy, you just run around on him ala super mario galaxy
How does a hades player entre the hades suggestions page?
Boulder power in Mario Galaxy was OP, it was so much fun.
They could seriously improve Poseiden if they allowed him an option to knock bosses against a wall
Yeah, but right now he seems lack luster when you enter a boss chamber
you could let it knockback without having the bosses get staggered
Poseidon is indeed a bit of a let-down on boss fights; otherwise, i'd have all his boons. But being able to slam bosses into walls like normal enemies would be way too OP.
what about making his boons doing more damage to bosses in general then
it knocks people away but if they cant be pushed it deals more damage
Possible sixth weapons: Caduceus/Asclepius (staff), Heracles' club, Damocles (sword? maybe an option for the sword we already have), Cronus (scythe), Bident (like a trident but just two heads... specifically associated with Hades in mythology), Labrys (big axe), Hephaestus (hammer)...
As is, they are able to be wall-slammed if they're next to a wall. Tbh, because Poseidon is so good vs normal enemies, he needs to kinda suck vs bosses to balance out
All the weapons so far have been associated with Hades and his direct siblings, and the only one that doesn't have a weapon in the game yet... is Demeter
and what weapon does he have?
As goddess of the harvest a scythe makes sense?
They probably won't add in another sword or spear-like weapon; too much overlap with existing weapons. Hammer, scythe, and axe could be options. I'm excited to see what's coming.
scythe is possible then
i feel like hammer/big axe/club are already kinda restricted due to the sword's special and the spear makes a bident or staff kinda undoable, scythe would probably make the most sense
Yeah Demeter is the original wielder of the last weapon
So Scythe is fitting
Otherwise I can see a staff of some kind
just answering bouldy for every post lol
final weapon is a sweet Macedonian Tau-Lambda
final weapon is the exploding chariot
how does dash attack work with the bow?
bow dash attack is a shot that charges faster but does less damage
I'd like to see a weapon that forces some kind of health compromise. Like I'm disappointed that the rail's special doesn't hurt you
Bows dash attack does 30 damage regularly or 40 with a powershot
And charges faster
It also has its own animation
and what about cast enchantments ||with the bow that loads casts into its attack||?
like for example one of chaoses runes boosts the damage of casts by 39%
it applies the damage of your casts to the thing you shoot
ok thanks
it also applies boon effects, I liked the Ares cast on it a lot
I'll have to try that
and it does a ton of damage
when theres a clock on the heart in the codex, does that mean next dialoge comes in an update?
120 per cast on the shot is impressively good
altough, you could just lob the fog for the same effect couldn't you?
yeah but lobbing it is slower than shooting it
fair point
I do like that it's slow sometimes, you can pre-lob it on newly spawning enemies
90% of greek mythology is "Oh dear, Zeus got busy with something else again, here come the tragedies."
speaking of when I looked up Zagreus I saw some sources say Zeus was his father not Hades
wondered if maybe that's gonna be a twist ending or something
Zagreus was an incredibly minor character in greek myth
As a result, there are conflicting sources
it's good place for writers, lets them have more room to work with
I feel like there needs to be a Cerberus Emoji on this Discord.
🐶 🐶 🐶
Is buying 1 titan blood for 15 keys worth, I'm 10 hours in. Just got to ||Hades fight and lost||
Honestly, it depends on how many keys you have, I think
That boss will get easier as you gain more experience against him.
Titan Blood is great, but I don't think it's going to catapult you to a MUCH more successful run.
at 10 hours in, no. keys to unlock a few key things in the mirror and weapons is more important
it depends on how much stuff you unlocked in the mirror already
Is there ways to get extra titan blood other than the seller after ||escaping||
or only from beating Meg with a weapon
Keys stop being useful faster than titan blood
and yes, you can get a ton more titan blood later
that was my question too. can i get somehow more titan blood if i already got it with all weapons?
you want to unlock the key mirror upgrades quickly, basically everything up to the two-status damage boost
after that titan blood is probably more useful
||What about Ambrosia, is it for like last reputation point after you give someone nectar?||
yep
yes, and also for upgrading something else much later
@candid pike yes, after beating the final boss on subsequent runs with harder requirements
yea i already completed game with adamant rifle but havent played another game yet
using the pact will allow you to get more blood, even on weapons that you haven't finished the game with yet
and what about the clock hearts? i gave cerberus so much nectar but i can´t give him more atm
i think the clock are waiting for more story in a new patch
Clock means not yet implemented
oh okay thanks 😄
Are there plans to bring Hades to other platforms?
The best trinket is the broken spear
0.5/1/1.5 seconds of invuln after taking damage, it's massive for styx and the final fight
before styx I usually swap around between the coinpurse for free money and various god trinkets to try and influence my boons
i will try that. atm i am using the healing everytime i pick up the darkess and the revieve from skelly
pinned butterfly can be very good if you're careful and take it slow, but you have to keep it equipped the whole time
yeah nyx cloak is great early when you don't have a lot of health or sources of healing
@candid pike what build did you use? I've had trouble getting past the final boss with the rail
What you do with the rail is highly dependant on hammer upgrades, IMO. The big ones are Spread Shot, Triple Bomb, and Inescapable Blast. If you get Spread Shot, build into attack damage, if you get Triple Bomb build for special. Inescapable Blast is an amazing slow and makes dealing with fast enemies much easier, and it goes with everything.
@runic tartan i was using the seeking arrows, attack doom, weakness dash, dodge and skelly trinket that´s all i remember i need to start Hades to rcheck more xD
idk if it´s build but it worked
Note that spread shot counts as a single attack for the purposes of zeus's attack boon, so I'd avoid that combination. It does apply 5xDio poison, though.
like some super advanced build i mean
i can check if it shows somewhere
wait can i? xD
Keepsakes depend
But I usually use god keepsakes for the first 3 levels, and either lucky tooth or the acorn for the fourth
Finally beat a run on 20 heat
There are no more rewards after 20 heat, damn guys. Why the hell are you guys doing 32 heat runs /s
Question- when I have a non-build that I desperately want to end, why is it those runs that take me up to the final boss?
I'm begging to die
"Chrion Aspect now blocks the bow hammer upgrade that allows secondary shots to pierce enemies. The reason for this is because if you combined the two the arrows would just continuously circle around the marked target like a ball of angry bees until they died which ...was not exactly the intended way to use it."
Hoo buddy I was using Chiron bow to farm out that hammer upgrade cause it was the last prophecy I needed. Thankfully I switched to Zag aspect cause I was just doing Ares/Athena Duo boon with Doom/Deflect Dash every time. But man I think I did about 15 runs not knowing I couldn't get that upgrade.
Because Hades is cruel
where do we report a bug if we've found one?
I'm staring down the last door with a Chiron Bow build that's just... nothing
F10 ingame
ah but it's a bit too late now since i've already went past that
ah i see
lemme just ask here to make sure its not intended to be like that
u know when u upgrade the elexir gifts thingies to also give pom of power when you pick one up
if u get one of those elexirs from a trove it doesnt upgrade any of your spells
Nectar
That's probably not a bug
The upgrades for keys gems and nectar only work on chamber rewards
None of the other trove rewards give the upgraded versions of their reward
Not trove rewards
Oh they don't? i havent bought that yet so i didnt know
So it's actually all correct. The wording is rather precise
ive only noticed it with necatr
In the Keepsake cupboard, is the secret stash row NYI?
Im only a few hours into this game but since its early acces is there and end ?
Dead cells in early access have an end so im just wondering
4 of the 6 secret stash items are available in the current build
when ur question wasent answered 
you can beat the final boss but the ending isn't implemented
can u dm me how to get them?
Like when hitting with a basic attack it doesn't actually count a shockwave that is released when using your basic attack. So yeah, it's usually very clear cut
Ohhh is the secret stash the Ambrosia ones?
@deep spade ok good to know thanks
i havent found out what to do with ambrosia yet lmao
ive beat the final dude like 7 times already
I haven't cleared final boss yet so I don't know if that's a trigger. Just wasn't sure what they were or if I'd missed their unlocks at some point.
@signal chasm it's required when you progressed far enough with nectar
Basically nectar for really special people
So it's fairly safe to trade off? I think I have a good 15
Considering you won't need that much... Trade it away xD
Ahha, thanks
Though you can use it to upgrade trinkets
The ones from those special people
As they are single use per run at the start
But you can only use them once each encounter
So it's your decision how valuable that is
Ambrosia given to ||Nyx, Thanatos, etc.? Non-boon gods.|| I didn't see anything in the wiki when I was poking around,.
There are 4 people so far you can give it to iirc
they're given to those ||with hearts that have locks on them||
I'm still waiting on those events to get them to trigger. Driving me nuts ||since I have 3 people on the locked heart icon. But no events yet ||
Ah okay I just haven't done enough Nectar yet, then
||first you have to unlock those hearts, through a triggering event||
Meeting them in the run might prevent them to spawn so maybe just purposely loose early on? 🤔
Seemed completely random to me though so no idea
Anyone else playing with Keyboard&Mouse?
I dunno if it's the same with controllers, but the Sword's Q is not targeting towards the cursor? Not sure if this was discussed before
what is the fastest time you beat meg everyone?
yes
nice
Most of that was her invuln
i have level 5 rare deadly flourish with triple bomb
anyone here finished the game in hell mod ? Im stuck on the last 1/4 of the final boss (p2)
i have never played hades with mods
no no, hell mod is an option when you start the game
*hell mode
mode* mb
id enable hell mode if i could, but i dont want to loose my collected stuff
doesnt seem worth it
yep. You have to start a game in hell mode. I did this for my first save ( i kinda love difficulties :p) but damn the last boss is tough x)
what exactly does hell mode do
in hell mode, all ennemy have 25% more dmg and hp, every new room you have 20% more enemy, you can't have more than 2500 obsidian in styx's mirror
and there is a last thing but i can't remember. Im checking it
so it puts the pact to max?
5 fire skulls minimum when you start a run
It removes the damage limit as well
So it no longer gives you invincibility if you take too much damage at once
i am going to see how fast i can kill hydra now
@native rose It's far from being a maximum heat pact, but it definitely makes a big difference in the difficulty.
You can add a bunch of difficulty options on top of it if you want
fighting meg with only cast and the special sure is a pain
at least with Aegis (the shield) probably typed the name wrong
pretty nice
btw, does Boss fights count as encounters?
guess, I got hit with a bug then cause the counter on my Chaos boon didn't go down
the worst bug i had was when i had the "all your benediction are epic" and i took at the same time the item that guarante me to have a higher rarety benediction on the last benediction ill got, and i only got "rare"
Hey does anyone know when Orpheus is supposed to show up? I have 41 attempts and have beaten Hades multiple times.
i believe you have to ||unlock him in the contractor(?)||
any benefit for running hell mode? more resources or something? or it it only for gluttons for punishment?
Outside of resource boons, anything interesting I should keep an eye out for from Poseidon's offerings? I'm usually lukewarm on him
Interesting. Duos just need a minimum of one per god, right?
I like the riptide one
at least with aegis
Was riptide the explosion on wall bash?
any gods I should look for with the spear?
all of poseidon's knockback effects are great
increased damage, explosion on wall bash, double knockback effect
his call is also secretly really good
spear is pretty flexible
I had that last run when I desperately wanted death, and his call was my only source of AoE
I like ares on attack for the spear, because it's got a really big dash attack AoE and you can slap doom on everything while dodging around
I'll just try focusing on blue a bit more, then. I was just avoiding his stuff because it tended to non-bo more often than not
Dionysus for rapid poison stacks
Aphrodite lets you stack up to 7, too
yeah i'd prefer status or flat damage effects with the spear rather than percentage boosts
and i just beat hades for the first time
gratz
now you can start suffering
why?
youll see
you just unlocked the pact of pain
Pact of punishment
doom on spear special and a couple of points in zagreus aspect is enough to beat things without interacting with them, though kinda miserable to do without more buffs
i think i'm doing something wrong or something, I've beaten hades with all weps EXCEPT the shield and that's supposed to be the goat wep
shield is about taking it a bit slower and safer, blocking an attack and then countering with a bull rush
you can block basically every attack in the game IIRC, including hades's big green AoE waves
so just take it slow and learn to block
with that slow playstyle, doom on attack is pretty good
hey remember, discussion about a certain boss is considered spoilers
it's the most obvious thing in the game, though
almost as obvious as what the ending is going to be after they implement it
even as such, these things are meant to be discussed in the spoilers or gameplay channel
spoiler tags are easy anyway. double vert bar on each side. |
do i need to beat the game to unlock those aspect things?


