h1-discussion

[brisk trail]

took me 18 attempts, but I finally 'beat' the game!

[tiny swan]

what does 'distant foe' mean?

What is the threshold to consider a foe to be 'distant foe'?

new player btw

[tough ravine]

not really

[grim wadi]

@brisk trail Pog I still haven't beat the game after 18 attempts T_T

[dense pivot]

i think it's about a full screen away in terms of distance

[tough ravine]

but most of the time it’s at the maximum range of your weapon

[dense pivot]

or that

[tough ravine]

@grim wadi “There is no escape”

[brisk trail]

@grim wadi you will get there c:

[tough ravine]

one day you can break free

[grim wadi]

Like I am thinking

Should I just

main a weapon

and get good enough to win the game first

[tacit lintel]

i found a weapon i geled with pretty well

and stuck wth it

[grim wadi]

i think poisedon blade is fun

but

im better at chiron aspect

[radiant tangle]

Sword is fun

[grim wadi]

since its the weapon i got to last area

[tacit lintel]

i prefer either my Shield spear or rail

i am terrible with the bow or sword

[grim wadi]

But how do you guys

go and play this game for hours and hours, like its a habit of mine buut

i tend to get tired

after few runs

and i would always

go to youtube

[brisk trail]

I'm a big fan of the bow. Trying to get all the fates with the bow,t hen I'm gonna move on to a diffrent weapon

[grim wadi]

some pro players

HAHA

[tacit lintel]

the problem is the amount of button presses

your hand gets tired

[radiant tangle]

I also usually do only a few runs at a time

[grim wadi]

luckily there are few channels on youtube

[tacit lintel]

during a run

LOL

[grim wadi]

who has alot of hades

content

[tacit lintel]

dashing attacking and moving etc

[radiant tangle]

Was easier to do more runs when they were 20 minutes instead of 40

[tough ravine]

most certainly!

[radiant tangle]

(Unless you're a speedrunner, then it's less than 20)

(Nothing but respect for those folks)

[tough ravine]

but with more content constantly being added

[tacit lintel]

i just wonder what that last weapon will be

[tough ravine]

now is a great place to start!

[tacit lintel]

i just hope they make a nod to one of my favorite in game weapons

the Blades Of Choas

i would love something like that in game

[brisk trail]

I hope the last weapon is a hammer

[tough ravine]

using hammer to upgrade hammer

inspection

[brisk trail]

or maybe it's just straight up gonna be Kratos' blades 😛

[tacit lintel]

i just think this games combat would suit a chain blade combat style

if not that

something like the flaming balrog fists from dmc 5

i love fist type weapons in games

[grim wadi]

I'm finishing my last game of League of Legends and I'm gonna watch Hades streams

I never really check out

any of them

I used to always do it for other Roguelike indie games

Like Streets of Rogue and Slay the Spire

[tacit lintel]

the only rougelike i have beaten is darkest dungeon

and now this i was shocked i had such a great run last night

[tough ravine]

some twitch integrations would be nice in the future

[tacit lintel]

personally i would love them to add the remaining gods

and maybe the titans

being able to slow or control time would be amazing

lol

[tough ravine]

that's really far from what is currently on the road map!

[tacit lintel]

they are only missing a few major gods

[tough ravine]

butt who knows

[tacit lintel]

like Hephestus

[winter aurora]

First time seeing Victory screen, took me 38 mins, dunno if its slow or now 😛

[tacit lintel]

Hera

apollo

[tough ravine]

@winter aurora Congrats

[tacit lintel]

to name a few

whats on the roadmap

game feels mostly done at least from my completed run

which was damn satisifying due to a personal connection i feel with zag

[tough ravine]

you can see the road map on the main menu!

bottom right corner

and a count down for the next major update to get your hypes up

[tacit lintel]

well as someone who loves mytholgy

this game is just in my wheelhouse

[tough ravine]

not sure how close it is to the actual mythology

I'm sure there's some SGG spin on the it

[winter aurora]

Is Ambrosia only useful at Wretched broker to buy Titan Blood or is there something else i can do with it?

[tough ravine]

yes! In time you'll find out

[winter aurora]

I have one, should i save it then?

[tough ravine]

It's up to you!

oh and congrats on getting one

[solar moon]

@tough ravine what I mean is I have no pact of punishment... at all
Like
Its just completely gone

[normal valley]

@winter aurora My first escape was ~44 minutes, so I guess you beat me at least. ^_^'

[tough ravine]

@solar moon did you finish a few runs afterwards? Maybe it's re-locked somehow?

[winter aurora]

@normal valley hehe i am happy because i started to play 2 days ago. Also it was mine 19 attempt but i had really strong build and a lot of luck 😄

[tough ravine]

a strong build also requires a great pilot! I'm sure at first it took me more than 19 attempt just to beat Meg

[solar moon]

@tough ravine I have played for hours
Should I report it or something?
It may have somehow locked again when it updated

[dense pivot]

yeah you can send a bug report from the game

[tough ravine]

maybe you need to win a run perhaps?

[solar moon]

Okay
I'll try to win a run cause reporting from within the game got me nowhere

thanks guys

[tough ravine]

sorry that's all I can think of right now

best of luck!

[solar moon]

thanks!

[slim lintel]

first clear

whoooooo!!!

[solar moon]

hell yeah!

[tacit lintel]

anyone else have a terrible father and reallly understand zags headspace and feelings i like it when games have a main character i can really empathize with

supergiant is always great at making characters

and frankly this is up there with transistor in my view

[inner smelt]

i just got Hades yesterday on Steam and I haven't cleared it yet but HECK IT'S SO FUN I LOVE IT

[simple basalt]

does anybody know whether it matters to increase affinities with olympic gods, ive just been using my offerings on zeus hoping to get something out of it

[tough ravine]

sadly I don't believe there's anything special for now But with an new Olympian coming soon, I suspect the current gods would also get something new

[stray lichen]

How and when can you use titan blood? I have 8 of them

Same for the ambrosia thing or something

[tall cloak]

ambrosia comes in later in character affection; titan blood is for upgrading weapons after aspects become available.

[stray lichen]

When dp they become availabe?

I have beaten hades twice

[tall cloak]

someone else probably knows the exact answer, but in my case i believe i had to unlock all the weapons and cleared it a few times

[stray lichen]

Ah ok ill try thay

That

So whats the quickest way of farming keys?

[hardy nimbus]

Well, thats not an easy question, but you can buy them from the big shade in the office at the lounge area, and i otherwise dont know what to tell you besides look for them.

[lusty wasp]

if you have fated authority, from the mirror(doesnt seem likely) or the renovator from picking up keys - if there are 2 exits, one darkness and one gems the first reroll always switches them to key and the second to nectar for me - that wouldnt even cost a reroll if you got the renovator trait since the key gives back a reroll

unlikely but a tiny chance it may help 🙂

[faint sinew]

guys how good do you think the bird gun is compaired to everything else

[lusty wasp]

do you mean the rail in general or just one of its aspects?

oh it seems its the standard version that looks most like a bird - didnt really remember

its really unique but relies a bit more on hammer upgrades than other weapons to really shine i would say

but when you have them (and a plan) its definitely strong

also with that id say it probably has the most varied playstyle

[faint sinew]

hmm

[rapid forum]

If I have a bug/issue I want to report, but it needs some explaining, where do I post?

"report with F10" probably isnt sufficient

[lusty wasp]

you can write a lot in that box - probably the best idea still - f10

[rapid forum]

I see

[haughty stump]

Say, what are the weapons tier list? I've heard that shield is godly, but what about other weapons?

[tough ravine]

It really depends on your play style!

spend some time with each weapon and see which one sticks

[little hawk]

i need more games like hades

[dusky grail]

There are tons of roguelikes out there if that's what you want

One of their previous games, Bastion, is the closest you'll get to the gameplay of Hades though

[little hawk]

wait hades is rogue like or rogue lite ? 🤔

[tough ravine]

not this arguement again

[novel shadow]

yo, why do charmed enemies deal so my damage to me?

[tough ravine]

that shouldn’t happen!
maybe it’s because the duration ran out?

[little hawk]

idk i dont even care about the difference

[novel shadow]

charmed satyr just attacked me and triggered my death defiance from like, 30 hpp

[little hawk]

its just some people are really pissy about it

[novel shadow]

without applying poison, might I add

[tough ravine]

@novel shadow you can use the almighty

[little hawk]

f10 ? 🤔

[tough ravine]

@little hawk you can use the f10 button to report bugs

[novel shadow]

afraid I left that area long ago

I'll try to get it to trigger again next run

[little hawk]

ahah

anyways i hope this game sells ton so that we might get a sequel or something,i might get the soundtrack later just to support the devs

[dusky grail]

Says rogue-like in their description on the store page

So that's what I'm calling it, is there even a difference between the two?

[little hawk]

idk the difference

[tough ravine]

@little hawk If you like the game so much, why not join the rank “early access” to post some feedbacks in the feedback channel

[little hawk]

isnt that just for improvements etc?

[lusty wasp]

if you want to differentiate between like and lite its definitively a roguelite

currently its usually used to say if a game has progression that stays between the runs or not

[little hawk]

that channel seems to be for more important feedback like minor game improvements etc not for showering praise,it will just be in the way

[tough ravine]

@little hawk yes but if you ever need to post some feedbacks, you are required to join the rank first!

[little hawk]

when i believe i have some significant feedback to give i will gladly

dont nerf Poseidon dash

[dusky grail]

lmao

[tough ravine]

don’t have to be something very game changing, just your opinions on the gameplay you think could change

[little hawk]

hmmmmm

[tough ravine]

sometimes it’s the little thing that matters

[tranquil hollow]

how do you get the early access tag

[tough ravine]

@tranquil hollow you can go to the bot-commands channel in more

[humble elbow]

I gave Hades ambrosia but he gave me nothing in return. But there's this +❤ icon appear above him. What does that mean?

[tranquil hollow]

i gave hades one nectar but he was an ass so i havent given him anything else lol

[tough ravine]

@humble elbow there’s more content coming soon!

[humble elbow]

Pfff XD At least his dialogue is entertaining. Just proves he's one big tsundere.

Ah glad to hear that ^^ Thank you @tough ravine

[tough ravine]

the heart means you grow some bond with a character

you can see the hearts in the codex

[humble elbow]

There's a codex?? 😂 Lolol

Scuse me noobie coming through

[little hawk]

sorry if its been asked before but wasnt the game supposed to come on steam after early access?dont get me wrong i am glad it did but it makes me worried if whether the game suffered due to store exclusivity that they had to do an early steam launch ? 🤔

[humble elbow]

I have no idea.

I'm just glad it's out.

[tough ravine]

I don’t believe it’s a problem now

[little hawk]

what problem ?

[tough ravine]

you saying that you’re worried!

[little hawk]

ahh yeh , we will see i hope the devs give update on how the steam launch went

@humble elbow i gues syou prolly havent unlocked the codes yet

if you did hold LB

to open it

[humble elbow]

I use the keyboard and mouse controls. But I'll scrounge around the menus next time.

I'm talking a break for now. I got wiped out by Theseus and Asterius because my fingers got tired 🤣 Lmao

[tough ravine]

@humble elbow you need to unlock the codex first

[humble elbow]

Got it. And that is... How?

[lusty wasp]

its 'c' after you unlocked it(by talking to achilles enough times)

[tough ravine]

in time you’ll get it!

just take runs!

[humble elbow]

Gotcha! Thanks everyone!

[little hawk]

achiles gives it to you

[tough ravine]

umm guys try to have less spoilers in other channels

[humble elbow]

Can't wait to be killed-- I mean meet him heheh

My favorite thing to do is eavesdrop on shades.

It's just so funny how they died 😂

And I never pass up the chance to zoom behind Hades' desk to annoy him.

[tough ravine]

Zag be like “I’ve died worse!”

[humble elbow]

"You can't tell me what to do, Dad!"

Pfff "Wanna know how I died this time?"

I stepped over a spike trap, Twice.

[mint shuttle]

Nice tactic, make them feel sorry for you the next run 🤔

[lunar sapphire]

Hypnos has some good advice about how to avoid such mistakes in the future 😉

[hallow kettle]

so can i say I rly like cerberus gift and that sweet 25+ hp

[haughty stump]

It is solid, to be honest. Skelly's gift might be better.

Cerberus helps with HP% scaling though, and it isn't one-time.

[tough ravine]

like I said most of the time it really depends

[haughty stump]

For me the egg is the best.

[bleak dawn]

I always start with egg and switch to the tooth when I run out of built in second chances

Skellys is probably my favorite gift yeah

[haughty stump]

Is ||chaos|| considered spoilers here?

[lyric talon]

I don't think so

There have been many discussions about them in this channel, although iirc that discussion had to be spoilered back in the Chaos Update

[haughty stump]

Oh okay. So, does chaos have any legendary boon? Or heroic. Or duo.

[bleak dawn]

Good question

[lyric talon]

1 Legendary, as of the new update

No Duos, and I think no Heroics

[haughty stump]

The legendary is the one which refills death defiances?

[bleak dawn]

Yeah

[haughty stump]

Sorta a bummer then. XD chaos perks are mostly useful when you have a good run going

When everything is going to hell you don't want to screw yourself even more

[tough ravine]

I thought the legendary only add one DD, not refill

[haughty stump]

If it is just one it is even worse because a few other gods give one+ a bonus

[tough ravine]

no because Chaos’ is a 1up, but Athena’s is refill 1

like you can get a forth DD if you have max DD mirror upgrade

[haughty stump]

Still it feels a lose less. I bet there are much better legendary boons

[tough ravine]

just wait until you discover some more!

[hallow kettle]

so what would ur recomendations for who to gift

[haughty stump]

Alright. XD But by my experience, duos>legendaries

[tough ravine]

@hallow kettle why not ALL of them

[shy yacht]

hey this probably gets asked a lot but is there plans for a Switch (physical if possible) release?

[tough ravine]

@shy yacht you could read the hades-info channel!

[shy yacht]

ok my bad

[hallow kettle]

also killed the first fury and got some blood like item and have no idea what to do with it

[tough ravine]

@hallow kettle you’ll find out really quick!

[hallow kettle]

NANI

[vale kite]

4,8k people playing hades currently

[tough ravine]

BTW congrats on killing the first boss

[hallow kettle]

yeah took me a while and die once in the fight

thank u second wind skill

time to save up 500 to get the next upgrade

[tough ravine]

or you could spend them on the broker

[little hawk]

i am glad the numbers are actually going up

it started with like 1k ppl

on steam launch

but then again it could be just due to weekend

[amber nova]

Minotaur fight with the spear guy is harder than the end boss

[little hawk]

is there a builds channel?

[tough ravine]

@amber nova perhaps a topic for #h1-builds-and-combat or #h1-story-discussion ?

[vale kite]

gameplay works

[tough ravine]

@little hawk how about #hades-patch-notes

[amber nova]

Maybe @tough ravine

[little hawk]

no not that build, i meant boon setups

meta etc

[tough ravine]

oh oops

[little hawk]

😄

[tough ravine]

reckon that’s also a gameplay channel topic!

[little hawk]

i wish this game had a sandbox/debug mode or something where you can control boon rng, i sometimes really want to try one god boons setup

wanna see how all zeus max upgraded works

[brisk trail]

It deletes the world, Kratos.

[tough ravine]

or you’ll be blinded by all the thunder and lightning going on

[little hawk]

sounds great

[fast token]

I know there are no plans for MP but... MP would be very fun!

[autumn pagoda]

Game got 98% positive reviews @Steam, and some stupid reviews just arrived - reading Russian section, found player who "don't like dialogues because he/she don't know how the gods talk with each other" 😂 .
Btw english section is boring.

[remote lily]

1150 with 98% positive is great

[hallow kettle]

beat the hydra with a bow

[dusky grail]

Still some people mad about the Epic stuff unfortunately

[hallow kettle]

yeah tbh i myself hate EGS for its pratices and lack of features

[dusky grail]

Not a reason to give Hades a negative review though, the game itself is great

[brisk trail]

It runs better than any other launcher I use.

[hallow kettle]

runs better how so?

[brisk trail]

And by that I mean I only open once every other day to check for patches right after an update and then I never have to open it to run my games.

My computer just won't start a Steam game unless I launch it through Steam, and games from Origin launch and then close Origin before they themselves start.

But Hades, Celeste, the Arkham games and Gungeon if I ever played them? I keep a taskbar icon.

[hallow kettle]

i mean is all of that worth it for the lack of features steam has

[brisk trail]

Yes.

Unquestionably.

Reviews, the community functions, that's all fluff.

I've got here to talk about Hades and SGG, Twitch to watch people stream it.

I get why the developers used Steam streaming, but I'm pretty sure a Twitch stream would have reached at least the same size audience but with a much better platform.

[dusky grail]

At the time Hades launched the EGS didn't even have an offline mode so I thought I'd just wait it out until it got more features

[brisk trail]

See, that's not okay.

[dusky grail]

But now it released on Steam so I don't have to wait

For EGS to get better

[brisk trail]

As long as I've played Hades I did not have to even be connected to the internet.

During Murder Death Kill, right before Beefy.

[dusky grail]

Ah yeah, I was just very focused on SGG at the time

[brisk trail]

I'm still furious how good the name "Beefy Update" is.

[dusky grail]

Hehe

[brisk trail]

If someone has never tricked a Skullcrusher into landing into a trap (lava or a vase about to explode), I recommend you try it. It's a good feeling.

It's a better feeling when it lands in lava while you're chasing another enemy.

[autumn pagoda]

@dusky grail Actually it has [offline mode]. Game can be launched without EGS from game folder.
By the way EGS is joke, can't make a DRM (l'm know mostly this is a evil) for themselves. (maybe now it have, no idea.)

[haughty stump]

So, now I'm really curious but...how did the developers get the idea for Hestia's machine gun?

Mind you, it's my favorite weapon out of all.

[brisk trail]

...Why are you talking about a lack of DRM like it's a negative?

[dusky niche]

Probably from Bastion @haughty stump

It seems like a Kid weapon.

[trail raven]

Public announcement : You can still get the Skelly rewards in God Mode

(Aka 16 and 32 Heat Statues)

If anyone was wondering

[dusky grail]

Now it does but it didn't when Hades launched in late 2018

[dusky niche]

Also, late to the discussion but the game is no longer Epic-exclusive.

So, I think it's time for people to get off of that horse.

👀

[fast token]

sword is too fun!

[brisk trail]

It is.

[fallen tinsel]

does turning up the heat rating give more rewards such as shadow gems ect

[brisk trail]

Used to give increased Darkness.

Now it's just for difficulty and bounties.

[radiant tangle]

Sword is great!

[autumn pagoda]

l'm just witnessed HILLARIOUS glitch with 3rd boss because of Legendary Keepsake ||of Sisyphus||
Link to YT: || https://youtu.be/8EPZlb2oOw8 ||

UPD: That jerk found way out lmao.

[toxic plover]

About bounties, do you need a specific house deco to check them or is it available once you clear the game once?

[umbral pine]

hey has anybody here found a use for ambrosia yet

besides the trader

[lean ferry]

bribe people to like you more and talk with you

[hallow kettle]

so um whats the name of the blood like item you get for beating the first boss

[odd spear]

Titan's Blood

[hallow kettle]

kk

also whats the name of the purple stuff again that gives u perimate upgrades

[tall cloak]

Darkness?

[hallow kettle]

yeah

thanks

tbh wish i can realocate titans blood since since i got the upgrade for the shield that makes the special float around

[odd spear]

If you keep playing, you'll earn a lot more. So long as you use ||the pact of punishment||

[hallow kettle]

||pact of punishent?||

[odd spear]

@hallow kettle I put a description I the spoilers tab

[hallow kettle]

ah kk

[hallow kettle]

ooof well tbh like the shield special where you can chuck it and it returns back

[odd spear]

Yeah. I saw someone say it takes ||runs through 15 heat for each weapon to fully upgrade then all. Or enough other resources buy them from the Trader in the House.|| But I guess it's sort of an end goal, so it makes sense.

[ancient hemlock]

If I missed first encounter with orpheous is there another? Because I´m on 33 run and still no orpheous 😦

[odd spear]

I asked this in gameplay and it was ignored, so I'm asking it here: is there a prerequisite to getting Chaos Defiance boon?

[faint oxide]

have they said anything about potential multiplayer? Sorry if this is in a FAQ somewhere

[odd spear]

They've said no multiplayer.

There's also a FAQ on their website and in the #hades-faq tab

@brazen fjord For me, I've found that I really enjoy Hades more when I'm less concerned about min/maxing and more, just, in each run for the ride.

EXCEPT for trying to get the last thing I need for the last Fated Prophecy I need..that dang Chaos Defiance boon. lol

So like if God Mode also unlocked all the weapon aspects?

That could go in the feedback tab.

[mint shuttle]

Titan mode 🤔

[humble elbow]

@ancient hemlock I haven't seen him either. Where is he supposed to be?

[odd spear]

Infinite Dsrkness would break the game. But, yeah, like 50k or something with infinite everything else...I can see that as an optional mode.

[humble elbow]

I think I ran through encounters too fast I might miss some dialogue or important events back in the Underworld.

[mint shuttle]

Would infinite break the game? Don't all the things have caps anyway?

[ancient hemlock]

@humble elbow next to Hades I think

No luck for me tho

[odd spear]

@mint shuttle I dont know that Fstes Authority does have a cap, tbh

[summer widget]

is it just me

or is aphrodite

fugly

[odd spear]

Fated, rather

[mint shuttle]

Ah I just don't have enough stuff yet

Only been playing a little while. Requires a loooot of grinding

[humble elbow]

No way Foo! She's pretty!

You Foo! XD

[summer widget]

@humble elbow

wait

in hades right?

[humble elbow]

Yeah in Hades....

[odd spear]

Uh yeah. I've been playing on and off since it was first released and I only have 5 in Fated Authority. lol

[summer widget]

wait a minute

[humble elbow]

Do you mean Aphrodite Hades or Aphrodite real real greek myth?

[summer widget]

aphrodite hades

[mint shuttle]

Wat

[humble elbow]

The pink haired naked lady right?

[ancient hemlock]

yeah

[summer widget]

she's supposed to be the goddess of love - why does she look worse than artemis?

yeah

[humble elbow]

SNRK XD

[summer widget]

her cheekbone is literally masculine

[humble elbow]

Personal taste maybe?

Oh Artemis looks Badass! I love her designs

[ancient hemlock]

I like her quite a lot

[summer widget]

artemis is really cool

i like hger voice actor too

[humble elbow]

Well... Greek cheekbones maybe???

[summer widget]

but aphrodite...?

[odd spear]

For Hades' Sake! Her CHEEKBONE is masculine??????

[humble elbow]

I think Artemis and Aphrodite share the same voice actor XD

[odd spear]

Mate, if you're going to get strict about gender norms you may be playing the wrong game.

[summer widget]

@odd spear listen

[humble elbow]

^^^^^ I agree with HeatherN on this one

I gotta google her for this sake XD I can see why you would say she has masculine cheekbones.

[summer widget]

My wording was definitely off xD

[humble elbow]

But fugly??? I don't know about that... She looks fine to me. Or maybe I'm focusing too much on her body rather than her face would be one of the factors bahaahahahahh

Her hair tho! It makes little heart shapes! ❤️

[odd spear]

Okay. For a second there, Foo, I was concerned.

[humble elbow]

And I like her dialogue too after Zag meets Artemis. She told him to stay away from Artemis Bahahah XD

[summer widget]

xD

[wanton yacht]

Im back from a long hiatus, just immigrated and lost my save file. Hope this inst breaking any rules by asking but is there any save files I can download so I dont have to start from the beggining.

[humble elbow]

😬

[olive jungle]

Not breaking the rules at all! You can check the Hades speedrunning archive?

[summer widget]

yikes

[humble elbow]

I like your nickname Hellis

[olive jungle]

https://www.speedrun.com/hades

Thanks 😂

[humble elbow]

XD

[odd spear]

Aphrodite and Atremis definitely ||have a thing going on...or could if Artemis could get it together and just ask Aphrodite out||

[olive jungle]

I am a person of many names...

[summer widget]

😬

💯

[wanton yacht]

thanks! I could take having to start from scratch

[humble elbow]

Ooooh ||That would be a delicious twist||

[wanton yacht]

Arent they sisters?

[summer widget]

that never stopped anyone

[humble elbow]

Supposed to be I guess. But Aphrodite is known to be the jealous type, aside from Hera.

[odd spear]

Eh, it's Greek mythology.

[humble elbow]

But then again Zeus is a really toxic and problematic husband...

[summer widget]

^

Zues cheats on Hera all the time... With his relatives.

Zeus*

[odd spear]

@humble elbow there's a ||dialogue from when you get their duo that is Aphrodite flirting hard. It's so good.||

[humble elbow]

OH.... My God

I cannot wait XD

ok but ||It's from a chamber encounter when two god symbols coincides, right?||

[void vigil]

no, it could be a random boon from either of them

[humble elbow]

gaaaasp [eats popcorn]

[void vigil]

you might need certain boons from either for the duo to have a chance to appear though

[summer widget]

is zagreus bi?

[void vigil]

the wiki might have the prerequisites

[odd spear]

@summer widget ||Yes. Unquestionably. ||

[summer widget]

thanks, heather

[humble elbow]

Zag be like https://media.giphy.com/media/pUeXcg80cO8I8/giphy.gif

[summer widget]

lmao

zagreus is a cool name

[humble elbow]

Hmm maybe the dialogue triggers if I have both boons from Aphrodite and Artemis in one run? It happened with Dyonisius and Artemis once. I picked Dyonisius and didn't expect to be attacked by Artemis.

[sly gull]

neaaaarly beat the boss room for Elysium and failed yet again

impervious megacharge is cheating

bad mino bad

[odd spear]

@humble elbow so to get the Duo boons what you need is ||just to already have a boon from each god. Once you have one of the necessary boons from each god, then there's a chance the duo will be an option when you next get a boon from either god.||

[hallow kettle]

when ur convused why people dont want titan blood to be relocatible

[humble elbow]

oooh yeah, that happens a lot. I'd put my ears out for Theseus, and put my attention on the bull though, since one is close ranged while the other flings long range spears.

@odd spear I will keep a close eye on that. This is exciting XD Thank you!

I love these dramatic dialogues popping up when you least expected it. Especially when ||Zag first encounters Megaera||. Is it just me or ||did these two have history together?||

[crystal bolt]

Do Diamonds get easier to obtain? The Renovations Shop seems to demand a ton of it.

[humble elbow]

I think so? With the right boons and equipments, some reward extra gems and coins and even power up crystals. (sorry I don't know their exact terms of units)

[hardy nimbus]

I am pretty sure diamonds, ambrosia, and titan blood are all limited to the current number of weapons released because you need to beat the corresponding boss to the currency to unlock 1 unit of the currency

[odd spear]

@humble elbow I'm taking this part of the convoy to the spoilers tab.

There are two main ways to get Diamonds. One takes a lot of time and grinding. The other is faster, but requires that you become more skillful at the game.

You can also get Diamonds from ||in game achievements|| eventually.

[sly gull]

the game lied to me... I thought the 'cosmetic improvement of your room' was just that, cosmetic.

but it had awesome side benefits like keeping track of how many runs you've done and stuff ;_;

[pulsar jasper]

so uh

when will we be able to date Artemis?

[sly gull]

yes

one day

in our wildest dreams

[pulsar jasper]

supergiant we need answers

@supergiant

[sly gull]

Hades: the Dating Sim

"F the Gods"

[pulsar jasper]

the whole nectar thing?

of course it's a dating sim

give us optional dating plsssssss :dusaHeart:

[sly gull]

optional? you mean TRUE END GAME

[pulsar jasper]

plsss let me hug artemis who's been cheering me on since she gave me critsssss

tbh i wouldn't have killed hades without them crits

[sly gull]

oh the sweet crits

[pulsar jasper]

he has so much hp its bonkers

[novel shadow]

|| artemis and zag have some jucy interactions ||

[sly gull]

I've yet to even beat Mino and Teddy ;_;

whoa

[pulsar jasper]

wow

i only said a hole

oh well

[strong heron]

aw spinach that's a cute nickname for them

[sly gull]

that was a close one

[pulsar jasper]

yeah they're dorks but it makes it wonderful

[sly gull]

yes otherwise I'd be too scared to enter the bossroom bribery ;_;

[pulsar jasper]

|| artemis is such a tsundere tho||

[strong heron]

you'll get the hang of them eventually

[pulsar jasper]

yup

i managed to get them by focusing one and then the other

[strong heron]

i remember (back in the day voice) not even being able to beat the inferno bombers in tartarus

mhm

all of boss fights is also pattern recognition too

[pulsar jasper]

yup

[strong heron]

so spotting what's when is a lot of it, and that you can pick up and let muscle memory follow

[pulsar jasper]

reminds me of furi tbh

quality boss fights

[sly gull]

yeah right now I'm just grinding grinding just getting used to the patterns and stuff and dying a lot

I just want to collect all the nectars tbh

gotta woo all the ladies

[pulsar jasper]

true

supergiant plsssss

let us dateeeeee

spinach do u have every weapon?

[strong heron]

oh i own furi, just haven't gotten to it in my library yet 👀

[pulsar jasper]

furi is amazing

[sly gull]

I probably should make use of the blast thing more often

I hardly ever use it since I find it a big bother to retrieve the crystal

[pulsar jasper]

the blast thing?

oh, u mean the cast

[sly gull]

yes!

I use xbox controller so it's bound to B so I just call it Blast

[pulsar jasper]

hehehehehe

i also use a controller

[haughty stump]

Uh, I'm not managing to make the sword work at all. Even the spear feels a little better than sword, just...how do you play with sword?

[strong heron]

depends on what specifically is your problem with it

[pine reef]

question, just got the game, but how many weapons are there? do more unlock as you progress or..

[haughty stump]

Feels like it does too low damage considering its range+safety. Like, there is no ranged options for sword beyond cast, and even then, for me at least, feels really hard to get through...well, anything past hydra due to lack of ranged options.

[strong heron]

if safety is a problem, athena boons are really good. it is definitely more risk/reward when you're making good damage though

imo a status curse on your special is essential

[haughty stump]

Plus, it feels like sword was 100% made to be played on a controller, and not on a keyboard.

[pulsar jasper]

i found being able to deflect helps a lot with sword

it makes u a lot more comfortable in any ranged encounter

[strong heron]

^^

[pulsar jasper]

then u just need to go for hammer upgrades or dmg boons

[strong heron]

i play with controller so i'm no help there

[pulsar jasper]

zeus, artemis, hell maybe even aphrodite help

[strong heron]

again, if you've got privileged status unlocked it's a big help

[pulsar jasper]

(guys i dont wanna turn up the heat)

[strong heron]

athena/dio on dash/special (or reverse) is a good combo, especially if you have the boon that gives you exposed

[pulsar jasper]

i love dio on dash

[strong heron]

dio is one of my favorites

[haughty stump]

dio?

[pulsar jasper]

Dionysus

[strong heron]

tipsy shot is also really good

[pulsar jasper]

god of wine

[strong heron]

especially with scintillating feast and/or hera aspect

[pulsar jasper]

after party is wonderful for riskier playstyles

[strong heron]

so, sword

that's also why i love athena so much

[pulsar jasper]

or non-flurry lance

[haughty stump]

Oh okay, for a second I thought it was some jojo reference.

[strong heron]

i like never get her legendary but when i do. chefkiss

[pulsar jasper]

hehe u thought it was i

[strong heron]

hahaha no

[pulsar jasper]

but it was just wine god

[haughty stump]

You thought it was dio, but it was me, Dionysus!

[pulsar jasper]

thoughts on chaos boons?

[sly gull]

super cool!

[pulsar jasper]

i used to be afraid of them

then got one in the second room and that was my first clear hehehe

[haughty stump]

honestly, as long as you count rooms and don't go into a boss with a chaos boon, you're good.

[pulsar jasper]

(oh i suck at counting rooms)

[haughty stump]

Same for me.

[pulsar jasper]

(how many are there?)

(is it a set number per area, do all areas have the same number?)

[haughty stump]

I think 25 tartarus, 10 on the next two regions, and varies on the last area.

[pulsar jasper]

(how exactly does it work? ive literally no idea)

[strong heron]

definitely not 25 tartarus....?

that seems like too many

[haughty stump]

Not sure.

xD

But tartarus feels a LOT longer than other regions

[pulsar jasper]

huh

[strong heron]

a little bit, yeah

[pulsar jasper]

to me the lava thing always felt longer

maybe bc i hate it

[strong heron]

they definitely shortened the previous biomes when they added the last one

oh same

[humble elbow]

I find Artemis' boon the Hunter Dash is redundant if using the bow. Or am I not using the bow right...

[pulsar jasper]

remind me what it does

[alpine tulip]

hunter dash is the worst one I think
Doesn't it just do damage?
The blade rift dash is probably one of the best

[sly gull]

blade rift is fun!

lets me dash around all day killing stuff

makes me feel like the FLASH

flash hundred yard dash

[humble elbow]

@pulsar jasper Hunter Dash: Your Dash Attack deals more damage.

I mean, how can you Dash Attack with a bow?

[alpine tulip]

it's useful for the small exploding chariots in the 3d area
the blade rifts

[sly gull]

huh

[humble elbow]

I have not tried blade rift, but I love curse of pain especially with the bow. Your special inflicts Doom. Added with Daedelus' +4 arrow shots to your special. 😙 👌

[odd spear]

The dash attack with the bow makes you able to use the bow's attack more quickly

Which I sometimes like, depending on what boons I pick up

[humble elbow]

😮 oooh! I'll try that next

[brisk trail]

Am I able to suggest something in suggestions. Encountered a glitch in the game

Or feedback

Noticed that the food drop item in Charon's pool doesn't seem to work on first boss after you've killed about 10 enemies. Then the rest just don't drop food

[jolly lodge]

press F10 in-game

[toxic plover]

Dionisius dash also hits hard if you have some Hermes shenanigans, its poison stacks are huge

[torpid forge]

hey i was wondering if anyone knows how I can get my progress in hades on my laptop

[undone gust]

User/doc/saved games/hades.

[hushed rose]

this may be a redundant question, but will the EGS and steam version of hades have the same content?

[stoic aspen]

Does anyone know how to get permission to type in #hades-feedback channel?

[hushed rose]

specifically, will the EGS version receive updates sooner?

[elfin ferry]

@stoic aspen Read the pinned post on the #feedback channel.

[sly gull]

yay I beat Teddy and Mino

bad news: holy mother of poisons

[brisk trail]

@hushed rose I think at the same time.

[pulsar jasper]

congarst

spinach! u r the boss

[hushed rose]

@brisk trail i see thank you

[calm flicker]

Latest update hades feels like a huge nerf to furies and many bosses

Then again they make the biome shorter, so maybe it's necessary

[pulsar jasper]

i wouldnt know

bought the game yesterday

[brisk trail]

I just bought it a few hours ago after seeing it on the Yogs livestream

[calm flicker]

Should I discuss this in spoilers? Not everyone have finished it to the furthest biome

[pulsar jasper]

sure

[brisk trail]

Or in Gameplay.

[calm flicker]

Excuse me then

[woven moon]

Hey does anyone know how to get the keepsake bone hourglass? I have unlocked all the keepsakes but I still can't collect the prophecy because I need that one, but I don't know who to get it from

[brisk trail]

Charon.

[woven moon]

Did I really just never equip it? Hold on let me die and I'll figure out if I'm an idiot or not

[pallid cloud]

Hello all

[covert linden]

what are the big gold locked things under keepsakes?

[pallid cloud]

No idea have not gotten up to it yet

[covert linden]

Guess i'll find out eventually

[woven moon]

Wow yeah I'm just stupid thanks schpoonman

And I always assumed that's what the ambrosia bottles are for, unlocking those big ones

[brisk trail]

Yes.

[frail orchid]

If I bought Hades on Epic, is there a way to transfer to Steam or are they giving keys?

[brisk trail]

Nope.

You can add it as a non-Steam game, or just run it from your desktop without any launcher.

[frail orchid]

Bleh, true.

[humble elbow]

@brisk trail Your pfp ahahhaha 😂 I'm wheezing

[brisk trail]

pfp?

[humble elbow]

Profile pic

Did you draw it yourself?

[brisk trail]

I did not.

I commissioned @alpine stratus for it.

They posted a picture of Spongebob's "If I'm not as cool as Larry, let me be crushed by a flying ice cream truck--AND LIVE!" with some Zag stuff edited in.

I asked for a full-tilt Zagreus version.

[humble elbow]

Is it in the fan-works tag?

It looks amazing XD

[brisk trail]

It is.

[shadow mist]

Since Hestia made a freakin' GUN, I want to see what blessings she'd give.

[sly gull]

hmm something like dash that leaves a trail of fire

[brisk trail]

Whoa, Life Affirmation got the axe.

[oak knot]

how exactly can you max out friendship with someone, i can't give more nectar to Artemis but looking at the codex her hearts aren't maxed out yet and there's this weird clock symbol on it

[brisk trail]

Clock means the friendship is yet to come.

A key means you can max it out now once you fulfill the unique-per-character conditions.

[oak knot]

so now i need to interact with her more?

[brisk trail]

You'll have to wait for Artemis.

[oak knot]

alright thanks matey

[shadow mist]

What do you get for plying people with way too much nectar?

[brisk trail]

Eventually they stop letting you give them nectar.

[shadow mist]

I gave Nyx a second one and all I got was "thanks, but you shouldn't have"

[brisk trail]

Oh, that does advance the relationship.

They talk to you differently depending on how much you've given them.

[shadow mist]

oh, neat

[oak knot]

i want to give more to Hades tbh but seems like i need to talk to him 950 times more, well hot damn

[shadow mist]

W O W

[remote moat]

i give all my nectar to charon

cause he is a bro

= D

always so happy after every nectar

[sly gull]

hurrrgh....ay

[oak knot]

i want to max Artemis first because she is adorable and clearly an introvert though she tried to kill me sometimes

[sly gull]

yandere's good

seldom appreciated

[woeful pike]

hey, does anyone else have to turn off vibrations evertime they launch the game

[radiant lantern]

never played with a controller so never noticed

[shadow mist]

Does the skull with the little red arrow on reward previews mean the boon is higher quality than one with just the skull?

[brisk trail]

Yes.

@tough ravine You can still manually reload with Infinity Chamber and Hestia.

[tough ravine]

yeah but my point still stands

[shadow mist]

Do we yet know who is narrating Zagreus?

[latent verge]

anyone knows if charged arrow shot followed by dash is considered a Dash Attack?

[shadow mist]

I think the dash attack is the quicker-charging shot that you get after you dash

[remote kelp]

hello,

[latent verge]

but how do you dash + attack on the bow?

[tough ravine]

@latent verge I don’t think so

[remote kelp]

is there wiki or tip forum?

[tough ravine]

you dash then charge up a shot for a dash attack on bow

the attack animation is different than standing still!

[latent verge]

right

[brisk trail]

Are you able to have relationships with male characters in this game?

Yes.

Thanks 🙂

[remote kelp]

what weapon is placed on 6th weapon slot?

[brisk trail]

It has not been revealed yet.

[remote kelp]

alright

[shadow mist]

How is the team going to fit more layers to Hell, assuming they decide to add another?

[wicked trellis]

Anything can be added if they want to

just look at the Binding of Isaac 😄

[shadow mist]

Yeah, I guess redrawing the map screen is relatively painless compared to making all the other art assets

[brisk trail]

Didn't realise that turning on God mode tainted my run, anyway to fix my save without restarting?

[granite pecan]

i don't think it taints the run? it will give you a fresh run record if you complete a run while in god mode but it will still keep your normal records for viewing when you complete a game without god mose

[brisk trail]

Ah, I meant more that now each time I go to the main menu it shows my save as having used god mode

which makes me look like a big cheater mcgee

I just wanted to see what it would do

[granite pecan]

that is all down to your perception. i don't view god mode as cheating

[brisk trail]

Alrighty, thanks anyway

[past field]

Hades has got to be the most addictive rougelike I've played in awhile

[tough ravine]

@shadow mist I don’t think they would add more to the 4 biomes structure, but alternative biomes are a possibility!

[odd spear]

Gotta say, Aphrodite and Dionysis symbols are really so similar in shape and color that I sometimes mix them up if I'm not paying attention.

The rest are either completely unique colors and/or shapes, so it was just a matter of enough time passing that I remembered which was which

Love that concise infographic, though. Very handy. Especially when first playing the game.

[woeful pike]

@iron snow @iron snow @iron snow PINPINIPIN

[shadow mist]

Speaking of pins, one of them seems to be broken

[brisk trail]

gotta figure out how to evade daamage from the final boss with melee weapons

[cosmic blaze]

why cant I psot any pics :(

[deep cliff]

I think you can post links to pictures, but not pictures themselves

You know, I actually pity those who will wait until v1.0 a little bit - because they will miss all jokes about Ongoing Underworld Renovations and ending screens

[brisk trail]

one of the quotes Hades gives in respect to that is kinda funny 😛

also honestly, outside of not being able to actually beat the game, the game itself feels very complete

[wet reef]

mmmmh is Hypnos wearing a Christmas-themed outfit?

[wispy cave]

sory baby

[deep cliff]

Imagine playing the game and never see Tool ending, where Zagreus, literal god who managed to get out of literal Hell and defeat ||ruler of the Underworld Hades himself|| is killed by stepping on a rake

[tranquil hollow]

if the next heart of a character's codex entry has a timer symbol, does that mean the character progression isn't in the game yet, or that I just need to try more escapes?

[dense pivot]

i think so

the lock symbol is the one that has progression

[novel shadow]

please tell me that the next olympian is apollo

or maybe we can get an ara ara goddess like Leto

[dense pivot]

isn't apollo like the greek jesus

he'd be too overpowered

[sly gull]

hmm I mean we already got Zeus

[iron snow]

Updated based on input. I have deleted the earlier post

https://i.redd.it/ef2hioq0qs441.jpg

[deep cliff]

Heh, I guess that's new
https://imgur.com/DiZeRJa

[sly gull]

Zeus shield + zeus special boon = electrified meat grinder

[alpine stratus]

JDJDJF STEAM.....

[covert glen]

okay okay okay

so

hades is on steam early access now

is there a way to transfer from epic games to steam?

[past field]

I did it XD

[deep cliff]

Save games are kept in the same folder, AFAIK you can just launch Steam version and continue playing

[covert glen]

aight cheers

[haughty stump]

Is there any chance of a god permanently abandoning you? I haven't seen Zeus in like, 4 runs, and Theseus always uses him against me.

[empty garden]

@steel viper about your feedback, I think they called him "half-god" because the olympians don't count Chthonic gods as "real gods". So they assume that only one of Zagreus parents is a "full-fledged" god: Hades

[steel viper]

Ohhh that may make more sense

[woeful pike]

does maimed shot stack

[pine magnet]

Two friends of mine have bought the game for the steam release. In two days they've already beat the game without the god mod. I think the game is really too easy in it's current state

And that dissapoints me very much, cuz I think the pleasure of discovering the Story and the bonds between the characters comes with the die and retry mechanic

Whatever, I think the Heat Mod is decent

[vestal swan]

I bought it yesterday and I've managed to almost beat it

[feral fiber]

how many hours did they take to beat it tho? rmmber its a 20$ game. i beat it in 10 escape tries or so but i still think the game is worth it

[pine magnet]

like 10 attempts

[steel viper]

I dont think it’s necessarily too easy, but i have noticed from my friend that just started playing that you get a ridiculous amount of Darkness if you use the same weapon and kill the first two bosses. This makes early progression accelerate way too fast imo.

[pine magnet]

^

I discovered the game 1 year ago

the difficulty was perfect

Asphodel and elysium while their release were perfectly hard

like, now Asphodel is very no big deal

except for the barge lmao

[steel viper]

I feel like with the latest few updates, the progression time of the early game (before completing a run) has shrunk greatly

[pine magnet]

yeah

I think that's a shame

[feral fiber]

bruh you saying elysium is easy? i find those big armored chariots harder than some bosses

[pine magnet]

Elysium has still some challenge to provide

[empty garden]

I think that if you think that is too easy, just apply heat. You get good resources, and allow you to learn. You can even put the heat at 10 and play that everytime, because the bounties are gained one by one

[pine magnet]

The early game is too easy

that ruins everything i think

[steel viper]

Theres so many sources of healing and preventing damage now. The death defiance change was def a step in the right direction

[pine magnet]

^

[steel viper]

I’m fine with this game not being an insanely hard roguelike. But i do agree that it feels a little less difficult and satisfying/rewarding than it used to

[empty garden]

I think the only problem is that you can advance pretty quick without viewing bits of stories that we're needed. But I think they are working on something about that

[pine magnet]

^

that's my problem actually

[pulsar jasper]

hmmm

[steel viper]

Thats the problem i had too when i started a new save

I was already at 3 heat runs for all the weapons and I just met thanatos

[feral fiber]

lol i met thanatos on my 7th run

[steel viper]

Just felt kind of strange

[empty garden]

I think that's not too bad. It makes you replay more

[feral fiber]

i heard on reddit its based on if u took dmg in previous encounters or something

[brisk trail]

Oh really?

I wondered why he doesn't turn up sometimes

[feral fiber]

met him multiple times and im still under 20 runs

[steel viper]

I met him on my 18th run or so

[feral fiber]

always beat him too 😉

[empty garden]

I think I missed the mark once, It was on Elysium and I had a crappy build

[steel viper]

Also the special event rooms have made the game considerably easier too imo. Eurydice is so strong

[empty garden]

Well, since you have ||Skelly statues|| that unlock with high heat, I don't mind the slow learning curve

[feral fiber]

i thinks it Hermes boons that make the game easier more than anything else. had one run where i had like 30%+ dodge chance and 3 extra dashes or something

I beat Big Boss Guy barely taking any dmg

[tough ravine]

@feral fiber umm best to keep those in #h1-story-discussion

[feral fiber]

oops

edited

[tough ravine]

thanks!

that’s an amazing achievement

...

[empty garden]

I think my problem is that sometimes I play a bit careloussly

And need to learn to avoid that for when I reach high heat

[feral fiber]

worse run that i ever did and the only one that i had quit mid way through was when i did the heat gauge thing for more monsters in an encounter then took the chaos boon that adds like 70% more monsters to the encounter. took me forever to finish one encounter that i just gave up

bad choices were made that day

[pulsar jasper]

hehe

[lusty wasp]

i like those

but then i always use maximum number of enemies, max hp and then see how i can maximize my dps - id never really go the speed way i see mentioned here most

[steel viper]

Imo hermes isnt that good except for the broken dodge chance and legendaries lol

[lusty wasp]

oh hermes is great for some things

[feral fiber]

Hermes atk speed

or special speed

[steel viper]

Super strong with cast build

[lusty wasp]

yea either of them if i really have something based on spamming one thing

[feral fiber]

Had a build with Hermes special speed and multi skewer spear once

and its just unli bounce spam

[lusty wasp]

but something i value a lot more than most is the slow down enemies i touch thingy

its just great for some builds

[trail raven]

Does anyone know if we are gonna get achievements for Steam for Hades ?

[lusty wasp]

i mean their other games do, right?

[trail raven]

Yep

Maybe they'll bring it later

[lusty wasp]

thats what i assume - achievements arent that common in early access stages already

i just dont remember their previous games having any i would find interesting so im dont see the interest in them

[jolly lodge]

their previous games all had steam achievements

[trail raven]

Yeah Transistor has achievements

[lusty wasp]

'having any i would find interesting', not 'not having any'

[jolly lodge]

as in, if they always put achievements in their games so far, then this one will likely have some too eventually

I was just seconding the first reply to IonianAryn

[steel viper]

I made a Boon tier list maker for the latest patch: https://tiermaker.com/create/hades-december-2019-patch-boon-tier-list-225524

Here's my choices for boon tiers. What are your tierlists? https://prnt.sc/qb4uoj

[dense pivot]

let's see

[tough ravine]

I reckon this is more of a #h1-builds-and-combat topic! : @steel viper mind if you post/move it there

[steel viper]

Ok np

[oak knot]

pls someone tell me i don't actually need to talk to Hades 950 more times to complete his entry

[little hawk]

havent met thanatos and orpheus yet

i would swap dion with aphro in that tier list

[vale kite]

i would just say situational for chaos boons

[lyric talon]

The nerf to Passion Dash is definitely a big detriment to Aphrodite

Meanwhile Dio's legendary got a considerable buff

[tacit spoke]

me trying to explain that hades is just a rock to hades fans

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWjjViJzfCU

[inland sequoia]

Charon only gives you the bone hourglass because he knows that it will make you spend more money.

[teal bone]

hey guys

I'm in the hallway between worlds, after updating to current version, and the trinket changing station is gone! is that normal now?

[granite pecan]

thats a thing that needs to be unlocked at the house contractor

that happened to me too in the update. i was mid-run and confused why i couldnt swap keepsakes

[teal bone]

hmm okay no worries

I saw some things at the contractor that were part of the runs previously

I'll just check again next time I come back and snag em, thanks!

wow nice

[steel viper]

https://i.redd.it/6bj9slpskl441.jpg

If ur not picking poseidon you’re doing it wrong

[sick dust]

Yeah pretty much

[feral fiber]

yo how many times do i have to give thanatos nectar?

gave him nectar like 4-5 times now

still cant give him ambrosia

[lusty geode]

i'm pretty sure you can find the friendship progress in the codex, the number of hearts over the description

the number of empty hearts equals to the number of nectar still needed

[feral fiber]

do i have to do all the 'encounter him x amount of times to find out more' or just keep showering him with nectar?

[lusty geode]

hearts is nectar, lore is conversations if understand correctly

[feral fiber]

cool

thanks

[lusty geode]

where do we place theories on what will happen next ?

[radiant tangle]

Over in #h1-story-discussion

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/473685187780411405/655841770675896330/unknown.png
I've found it again. My favorite line from Hades in the entire game

[odd spear]

Hey anyone got a screenshot of ||Than and Meg|| hanging out in the lounge?

[novel shadow]

damn, no. Why do you ask?

[remote moat]

if i have"your special inflicts doom"
and " your special deals 49 % more damage"
does this also effact the doom damage ?

[flat vapor]

it does not, as doom is considered its own separate damage

as opposed to a god like athena; her special boon increases the damage of the special itself

[half drum]

just finished the game and i loved it

[odd spear]

@novel shadow I want to use it as a "same energy" meme with something else

[civic arch]

What is the maximum crit chance you can get by upgrading zagreus bow?

[jolly ivy]

Really hoping my cats didn't leave some odd feedback, went away for the weekend and came back to a prefilled feedback of 77777777744444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444

[hard cedar]

That's a lot of fours.

[radiant lantern]

@steel viper pretty sure boons tier list is also affected by the different weapons the players are using (personally for me tho) https://gyazo.com/86c04f94187344f63680c8103c2e236f

the best defense is a good offense so Artemis is bae dodge chance is OP too

[shy crystal]

Zeus boons can be useful for rail pew pew builds

[radiant lantern]

imo, dodge chance is like a chance for you to not die when you get hit and provides you with the luxury of playing recklessly

[dreamy roost]

I agree with that, but outside of dodge, none of the Hermes boons are super useful, imo. Though I do like the greater recall on cast boons

[radiant lantern]

I do like the more dashes

if I'm going for some risky melee build

[toxic plover]

Is Chaos that good? I never had much luck with him tho I can see some of his options are great

[dreamy roost]

I like it, and I'll take it. but I've learned to play with two dashes for so long that more just seems unnecessary, and I'd rarely wish that over another god's boons

Chaos is awesome, imo

[radiant lantern]

more dashes is just more dps in a spear/shield melee build

[dreamy roost]

it's usually just a straight damage buff from chaos, which is always worth getting, imo

[radiant lantern]

and I do enjoy playing melee, it has such high dps which allows you to just melt everything, my fastest runs are usually using melee builds with them, not safe but it's fun

[toxic plover]

Enshrouded I'm always worried i'll miss a hammer or hermes lol

[radiant lantern]

I learnt to live with just one hammer

most of the time, my run is decided by the hammer options I was given

[shadow mist]

Athena's one of my top faves since I learned you can reflect Theseus' spear. Bouncing the Splitter projectiles is also a hoot.

[radiant lantern]

you can reflect basically everything, even Hades' skulls

[steel viper]

Deflecting melee attacks is so fun

[radiant lantern]

her dash is just overpowered, let's be real

you can just dash around the Minotaur and Hades with it

[shy crystal]

Imo chaos is great and worthy before elisium, after that going for it becomes risky

[radiant lantern]

I am glad that they nerfed it somewhat, the times when it has a delay tho

it's like free i-frames

[toxic plover]

Artemis' for maximal dps tho

[shy crystal]

getting more dashes is always welcome cause it extends i-frames period tho

[radiant lantern]

I still take Athena's dash over Artemis' dash any day

[shy crystal]

I got killed by a rat today during regular dash startup

so I know its not completely invincible

[red coral]

Please don’t try to avoid the swear filter!

[radiant lantern]

oh ok

regular dash only has i-frame during it?

it's selective i-frames, not complete i-frames

some attacks go through it

it i-frames most things tho

which purple projectile?

you mean the arrow on Elysium archer's statues then no

wave from the skeletons and the hydra?

yes, I dashed through it often but it's tight and wonky too

the timing is really tight cause your hitbox is bigger than you think and the wave doesn't have a fixed velocity but an accelerating one

does god's mode not give you enough gems?

or does it not give you any?

I never turn it on so idk

[narrow nest]

Is there any way to decrease the graphics? 😅 My game keeps crashing at the Hydra fight, I think just cuz there's so many things on the screen my laptop can't handle it

[shy crystal]

is there a usage for keys after you unlock everything in the mirror?

well, besides trade

[vale kite]

nope

[dreamy roost]

Don't troves still require keys? And unlocking weapons at the start?

[odd spear]

Troves don't anymore. I don't know about unlocking weapons, though

[radiant lantern]

yes, weapons still require keys

something like 3 for spear, 4 for shield, 1 for bow and 8 for rails

iirc

[limber mauve]

Can someone explain to me how do I get to meet ||Orpheus||? Can't seem to find him anywhere after ~25 runs

[odd spear]

@limber mauve ||you're going to need to buy something from the contractor||

[limber mauve]

@odd spear Thanks a lot!

[radiant lantern]

is that considered spoiler?

[odd spear]

I think so...if folks want to figure it out for themselves

May as well cover it just in case

[limber mauve]

I usually prefer my friends to not even explain the mechanics or controls to me if I get introduced to some game, so I'd go with "It depends" ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Congratz, you ruined it! (kidding ofc)

[radiant lantern]

I didn't even know, I thought I'm playing Hades all this time D:

[tropic wave]

if I haven't beaten the game yet, how terrible an idea is it to trade one of my ambrosias for titan blood? I haven't seen a use for the former yet and I spent my initial 5 already and can't see another way to get more

[radiant lantern]

I thought you just do bounties for more? I don't even know what I'm doing, I'm just kicking up heat on my 2 favorite weapons and beat the game over and over again. Is what I'm doing a hell mode exclusive or something?

[strong heron]

i'd say hold on to your resources without making trades for a while right now

you can always trade later, but you also get more of both resources

[flint scroll]

imo there should be an option to change particle effects

[upbeat haven]

Hey, is there any way to get the soundtracks? I'd put them all on my phone without having to use yt to mp3

[timber quartz]

Spotify is one way

[pulsar jasper]

so uh is eurydice red?

[timber quartz]

Darren Korb has released them in mostly individual albums

Same singer! Ashley Barrett

[pulsar jasper]

i knew it

[timber quartz]

And I think the album might be out now some other way but I’m not entirely sure

[hollow lichen]

Anyone knows how to make sound louder the sound of the game in general? I want to listen closely the OST but even with all max sounds more the voice lines than any other thing else :/

[pulsar jasper]

i legit thought id see red down there for a second

[upbeat haven]

Mhmmm oh cool... Guess I should take this app more seriously then

Can we download on spotify to listen to them without internet?

[timber quartz]

Yep!

There will be ads unless you have a paid subscription though. I get a cheap one through my university

[upbeat haven]

There are ads even offline? X3

[timber quartz]

Hm not sure. Didn’t use it very often until I had the subscription

[upbeat haven]

Okay x3

Thanks then

[novel shadow]

swear I could have all other boons in the game aside from the legendary ones and they still wounldn't drop.

[shadow mist]

Can't you buy the ost on Steam? And I think they released it to all backers on Epic when the game came to Steam

Also, there's something very wrong with Tisiphone

[odd spear]

@novel shadow you can check the wiki for each Olympian to see which specific boons you need to even have a chance of the legendary showing up

[upbeat haven]

The wiki is not up to date at all

Got one duo with something that wasn't written as duo eligible

Well, it wasn't two days ago I meant

But it's still better to know how to get the legs

[alpine tulip]

It would be cool if giving gods enough nectar lessened the intensity of their attacks when you anger them in the "trial of the gods" rooms

Unless that's already a thing and I'm unaware of it

[radiant lantern]

uhh, how can I report a bug about bloodstones disappearing on revive?

[red coral]

F10 in-game!

[radiant lantern]

oh I moved past the fight already xD

[remote lily]

oh wow there is no House Contractor entry on Hades wiki\

[radiant lantern]

it's most noticeable on boss fight, cast(s) travelling mid-air (in my case, it was Dionysus' Tipsy Shot) when you take fatal damage and revive, the cast(s) just disappear and never return for the remainder of the fight

[spice chasm]

how long does the average full run usually take? and can u save or does it all have to be done in 1 sitting

[radiant lantern]

it can be as fast as 25 mins or as long as 60 mins, there are no saves mid-run afaik

[odd bramble]

If you quit out it auto-saves

[radiant lantern]

does it?

oh it does

xD

well my run timer is just on the end-run screen, I never time my runs

[spice chasm]

also does the game not get sort of stale after a few runs? i noticed the shield weapon is nearly an exact copy of that 1 diablo crusader build

[radiant lantern]

it's a rogue-like game, you kinda know it about now

[spice chasm]

i suppose yeah

[radiant lantern]

it's more about improving yourself rather than just beating the game 5 times back to back on the same difficulty

[flat vapor]

the average run, assuming you win, is around 25-35 minutes

each room auto-saves after being completed

new gameplay and story content is added gradually as you play more runs (win or not), so it really doesn't feel the same each time as you unlock more stuff

[radiant lantern]

I'm just kicking up heat every run so it's getting harder time after time

[spice chasm]

kind of on the fence atm i wanna buy it but i feel like it might become repetitive to quickly

[radiant lantern]

as a person who sunk 100 hrs b4 back in like February and now coming back to sink another 200+ hrs, I do think the game is well worth the price it comes with Pyre for free on Steam to boot

[spice chasm]

oh ya 20 bucks is really good

coming month is gonna be jam packed with stuffs too as far as gaming goes

kh3 MHW(pc) DBZ and some other jank

[flat vapor]

it didn't get stale for me and i bought it back when it first came out, without all of the content it has now

[spice chasm]

what does it have now that it didnt b4?

i know it has 1 more wep now

[radiant lantern]

back when I played, it has 2 less areas, 2 less gods, no Thanatos, no rewards for beating the game other than some Heat

[flat vapor]

1 new weapon, 2 more biomes, 3 extra gods, a whole ton of extra characters, better graphics and gameplay, a LOT of voice lines/story content all voice acted

[radiant lantern]

more music too

that's the highlight, the music

[spice chasm]

does it still only have 3 boss fights?

[flat vapor]

a more fully realized story dating sim aspects

4 now, and there's variety in all of them

[spice chasm]

oh i see

[flat vapor]

as in, things change in each boss from run to run

[spice chasm]

so how does like progressing to new biomes work do u choose to do a run of either or?

if each run is like 20 mins

[brisk trail]

You play through each biome, try to beat the boss, and move on to the next.

Always progresses in the same order.

[spice chasm]

oh i see

[flat vapor]

^ basically

runs are more like 25-30 minutes

[radiant lantern]

last boss is the most BS boss tho, you can't even Athena's dash through his attacks, either that or I'm just bad at game

[spice chasm]

what do u keep with u fi u end up dying?