#h1-discussion

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mellow karma
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There's one weapon missing that's why I ask

hexed smelt
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i mean, i'd say probably not, but we got dionysus and the rail in the same patch, so who knows really

fiery pebble
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Probably only Hermes

hexed smelt
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my guess is that it's just our boy hermes, tho

fiery pebble
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Next weapon has a high chance of being a Scythe

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On account of it being Demeters weapon

hexed smelt
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i mean, that's just, like, your opinion, bro

inland steeple
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holy the scythe is gonna be so cool

fiery pebble
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I mean, I said "high chance", not guaranteed

mellow karma
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Special would be spin attack

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Same as sword

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Not cook

hexed smelt
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yeah, well.

mellow karma
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Cool

fiery pebble
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But the weapons generally fit their god, and when it comes to Demeter, Scythe is an obvious choice given her status as a goddess of harvest

halcyon heron
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Is Demeter even mentioned in game?

inland steeple
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Its even Thanatos weapon, so it could be i mean

fiery pebble
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Not directly

mellow karma
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@hexed smelt so do I put points in Olympian favor before going after gods pride

hexed smelt
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look, i'm gonna put this honestly as i know how: do whatever. put your points wherever.

fiery pebble
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But the 6 weapons are those of the 6 elder gods

hexed smelt
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play the game.

mellow karma
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๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚

hexed smelt
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you're not going to have as much fun with it if you're constantly tabbing back to discord fretting over what is the Most Optimal Way To Do Things

fiery pebble
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Demeter is the last one

plucky dagger
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I went down the list in order.

hexed smelt
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just, like, play the game and get a feel for it. it's all fine.

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if you don't like where your points are, refund them and stck them somewhere else.

mellow karma
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@hexed smelt I just like asking questions

hexed smelt
mellow karma
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I enjoy the game that's why I ask

surreal briar
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updat wer

hexed smelt
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points at name

surreal briar
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oh noes

mellow karma
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We have waited a month a day won't kill

surreal briar
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mod abuse :C

winged relic
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The coolwhip

dense sinew
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Quick no-heat run to celebrate patch release? Quick no heat run.

somber tusk
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any ETA on when update drops

hexed smelt
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points at name

vapid drift
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soon

somber tusk
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sigh

winged relic
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Soon is the same as patch when though

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today would be better ^^

mellow karma
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Probably tom moron

winged relic
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Because soon for me would be within 2 hours

hexed smelt
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no, there's no ETA. best estimate is probably about noon-ish PST but that's not a guarantee

somber tusk
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its says 11th and 11th is soon to be over for me

winged relic
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most of the time it is around 9 ish for me

mellow karma
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I keep looking at the side bar update soon

winged relic
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in 3 to 4 hours that is

alpine stratus
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it might happen on the 12tb in your time zone then! The time corresponds to pst

somber tusk
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i see

mellow karma
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What's pst

surreal briar
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pacific time

winged relic
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Petrifying sadist time

hexed smelt
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pacific standard time

elfin sparrow
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Yeah, they are in San Francisco as far as I know

halcyon heron
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Wait.. supergiant is in the USA?

hexed smelt
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yes

gaunt bane
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ye!

cerulean obsidian
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apologies for my ignorance but what is ''no heat runs'' I keep hearing it

vapid drift
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runs without using heat, presumably

cerulean obsidian
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and what is heat ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

vapid drift
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heat can be used to make the game harder.

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the second boss awards heat and enables heat chamber rewards.

snow sail
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and there are rewards when you finish game with certain heat levels

vestal lark
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cosmetic rewards or gameplay enhancing rewards?

halcyon heron
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If you finish the game at 200 Heat, you actually become an SGG employee in charge of game design and balance.

snow sail
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cosmetic

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but no idea what are those

vestal lark
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a'ight thx

burnt pond
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If you finish the game with 200 Heat Amir visits you in real life and gives you a choice between a Physical Collectors Edition of Transistor, or a hearty handshake.

brisk trail
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18h51 in France Still nothing? Normal?

alpine stratus
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yup! have patch-ience

rigid grotto
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im running 200 because that sgg job offer is my only chance of employment

burnt pond
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I thought it was because you were afraid of Haelian's skill.

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I am too, that's why I just try to route and theorycraft baerSTRESS

rigid grotto
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(shhhhhh)

halcyon heron
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My guess is the patch name will be "The Quick and the Dead"

charred cloud
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Gib Update? Plox?

burnt pond
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If they had waited to add Tisiphone and Alecto until this patch, it could've been named "The Fast and the Furious"

rigid grotto
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NOOOOOO

halcyon heron
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Goddamn that would have been good

rigid grotto
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literally unplayable

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missed opuntunity

somber tusk
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how do i bow btw

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standing still seems like a bad idea in general

halcyon heron
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Here's how you bow:
You equip the bow.
Right before you go leave, you turn around, and equip any other weapon.

somber tusk
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huh

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thought as much

teal dagger
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Can be decent if you have the instant shot path in Daedelius hammer

tepid knot
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waiting for the update like.

hidden sonnet
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everyone on this server is waiting for the patch haha

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i love it

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im anxiously waiting too

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its 7pm here

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where patch

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where patch at

hollow merlin
somber tusk
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ive got work in 7 hours and i havent slept yet

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SG pls

quasi sleet
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tech companies dont start working until 11am minimum

hexed smelt
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go sleep

somber tusk
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never

halcyon heron
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Patch will be here when you get off work

hidden sonnet
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what do we want?
patch!
When do we want it?
YESTERDAY

tepid knot
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I want the next biome right now

somber tusk
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dude, ill be too damn tired to play after work

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oh well

halcyon heron
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Do you think they'll have the real ending during early access? Or wait until retail release

rigid grotto
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play during work

vapid drift
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the ending will probably be added with release, if I had to guess

worn thicket
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As far as I know the ending will be in 1.0

rigid grotto
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Im not sure if there will be a "real ending"

hidden sonnet
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what do you think the next weapon would be?

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im thinking mechanically what is lefT?

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a mace?

rigid grotto
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fists

vapid drift
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sickle

halcyon heron
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Scythe someone guessed. Or a hammer. I'm just thinking god of war weapons.

somber tusk
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FISTS

halcyon heron
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Fist weapons were in GOW as well

somber tusk
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tbh just take every bastion weapon

brisk trail
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The forgery of Thanathos omg please XD

rigid grotto
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mortar

teal dagger
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Or something boomerang-ish

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Like the spear special but more dynamic

rigid grotto
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transistor is confirmed next weapon

hidden sonnet
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boomerang sounds fun, but is it thematic?

vapid drift
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(why a sickle? because demeter)

hidden sonnet
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scythe sounds cool, probably AOE weapon

halcyon heron
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Would also have to fill a niche the other weapons don't fill

hidden sonnet
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yeah i dont think melee AOE is a thing atm

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wait spear spin

halcyon heron
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we don't have many super short range weapons

vapid drift
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super short range, super fast, high dps

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sickle.

hidden sonnet
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daggers

worn thicket
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Pyre's Orb

rigid grotto
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double knives

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aura from pyre yea

teal dagger
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@hidden sonnet I donnt really think the Rail, being a rocket launcher is really thematic either haha

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They just made the design thematic so I guess they could do everything

hidden sonnet
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ahaha very good point

somber tusk
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thats why the olympian gods were cool - they had GUNS

hidden sonnet
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i need hermes to have sunglasses

gusty nimbus
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we have 3 meele weapons and 2 ranged, i think it's gonna be 3rd ranged

hidden sonnet
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else 0/10 game

paper walrus
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Okay I have waited long enough. Where's the pitchfork and torches

halcyon heron
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We already have pitchfork in the spear

rigid grotto
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timezones

hidden sonnet
gusty nimbus
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i'm guessing some throwing daggers or magical staff

tepid knot
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7pm in Europe, don't drop it the middle of the night SG !

paper walrus
halcyon heron
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You're just gonna wield Dusa

snow sail
teal dagger
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Would be cool if they implemented a bow into the game

paper walrus
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Id never use Dusa as a weapon, she...? Is lovely

halcyon heron
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middle of a boss fight straight up: "Byee!"'s you

paper walrus
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Id like to see a fear mechanic

tepid knot
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Yup, could be really cool, we already have charm*

gusty nimbus
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It's gonna be

A Balista

teal dagger
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It'd be useless against bosses sadly

vapid drift
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...two sickles.

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fast chained attacks, bigger damage on consecutive hits.

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range of 'right next to you'

teal dagger
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Boomerang sickles

brisk trail
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What is it? In fact the update is for tomorrow?

vapid drift
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the update is for in like four hours

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probably

storm fractal
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just got this game as a birthday gift, its so amazing

dense sinew
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In an old, allegedly banned, game, Postal 2, you could mount a cat or dog on a machinegun and shoot from it. I guess they could mount Dusa on the Adamant Rail and shoot stones.

wooden condor
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you must have some very nice friends

paper walrus
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Allegedly banned?

storm fractal
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Postal 2 isn't banned in the US, it is in several other countries though just like Manhunt.

teal dagger
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Why so?

paper walrus
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Eh, theres so many of "those" games now which just seem to be baiting the controversy for sales

tepid knot
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Yup, your friend have very good taste @storm fractal . I strongly advise you to check other games from this studio. They're all video games gems.

paper walrus
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Last one I bothered to remember was hatred

storm fractal
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Postal is pretty controversial.

rigid grotto
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kind of a vile game

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not even good

storm fractal
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@tepid knot I am already a big fan of thiers. Pyre is just incredible.

paper walrus
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Its a fake sort of controversy ya know

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This game is all totally transgressing the limit of taboo come play it now its not materially pretty crap ๐Ÿ˜›

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I wonder what ancient greek storytellers would think of their own culture being told through a video game

storm fractal
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Postal is a vile classic. People are just too sensitive.

paper walrus
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Yeah I just look at it and go "so what"

brisk trail
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they'd probably scream in greek that they're seeing visions from a glowing screen

paper walrus
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I dont think its gonna lead to people murdering me and otherwise it doesnt effect me

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After culture shock

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Storys back then had no special effects all the epic storys were some dude coming back and describing epic battles.

rigid grotto
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I just dont think its a good game

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regardless of the drama

storm fractal
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@paper walrus The ancient greeks were so split up on the stories. They would probably disagree with the telling based on the city-state they were from.

paper walrus
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Even theater acting was so vastly differenyt

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True Pale king but I would give them the context that this is a dramatisation not a recreation

dense sinew
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ฮฃฮšฮกฮ•ฮ‘ฮœ ฮ›ฮ™ฮšฮ• ฮคฮ—ฮ™ฮฃ

brisk trail
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very much so, an adaptation or fanfic of sorts

paper walrus
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Video games are probably the nearest medium we have to an accurate recreation or retelling of characters events etc

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I think they would love it

brisk trail
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guys when will the update go online ?

dense sinew
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Soon

quaint wind
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no specific time yet

paper walrus
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I dunno, the ransom message was delivered but they are holding out on me

brisk trail
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MANNNN I CANT WAIT hahahaha

storm fractal
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They may get uncomfortable with Hades and the Cthonic gods/progentia (Khaos and Nyx) deities being involved. Most of those deities were revered but kind of a taboo to talk about.

tepid knot
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Supergiant Games moderators playing the game right now, maybe checkin the last update ? gilmanlove

paper walrus
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Well the Ancient greeks as a stereotype were fairly progressive

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Hence why my theoretical ignores culture shock anyway

brisk trail
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yeah i hope i just got back from the gym and really hyped for the update

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there wont be a new max stage tho right ?

paper walrus
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<--- dont make me sacrifice this doggo Supergiant

storm fractal
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I still haven't beat the game yet

paper walrus
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Keep at it ๐Ÿ˜„

tepid knot
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replayability / next biome / next boss are listed as primary development target goals

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So we'll have maybe one of these

brisk trail
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keep at it ! how far have you gotten so far?

storm fractal
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got past the bull then got flooded by the resurrecting shades. I had a rail gun with triple special and pumped up crit

brisk trail
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it would be cool if there would be a possibility so you just can reach infinity stages and it gets more and more difficult

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but might be a dumb idea idk

paper walrus
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60 heat was my limit

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Still havent unlocked the last thing in the pact to see how much harder that will make it per heat

dense sinew
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Same, actually feel like trash for not beating it at 120

brisk trail
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oof yeah Elysium was rough for me the first few times because of the respawn

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i think i finished the game with 30 that was my record hahaha

paper walrus
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The shield hurts me and saves me

brisk trail
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guys what do you use the skulls on first? is there any good thing where its a bit easier to use them on

paper walrus
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The shield runs are easy and fighting shield bros is a nightmare

brisk trail
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I'm working on the 120, I think the most I have so far is like ~70-80

ebon slate
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How many up**** timer been reset?

storm fractal
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I have desperately tried make a captain america run

brisk trail
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i did the one thing so you have no choice of picking of 3 boons

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but the other stuff feels so difficult for me lol

storm fractal
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The drops on daedalus hammer feel really low

paper walrus
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Yeah the other stuff stacks that difficulty hard

brisk trail
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i mean +150% damage for the enemy or so

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added health is a good starter one, then more enemies is what I started out with

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its crazy

dense sinew
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I've tried an only pink/purple run, but I can't seem to make aphrodites work for my playstyle

brisk trail
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yeah the damage combined with whipped frenzy is rough

paper walrus
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Easiest heat is one less option 100% higher prices 10% faster attacking "any more gets iffy" Maybe the one hit invincibility.

brisk trail
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@brisk trail kk ill try that bro

paper walrus
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Never give them damage... never...

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If your going to then take Aphrodite

brisk trail
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yeah the price thing really could be good since sometimes you really dont even use the shop

paper walrus
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and hit everything with weak

brisk trail
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really you take the Aphrodite necklace?

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isnt the one with stacking damage the best?

paper walrus
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If I up the damage on heat then yes

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On high heat avoiding damage becomes nightmarish

brisk trail
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the one that gives you +2.5% damage every run with no damage

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i like weak for higher heat

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ou i didnt knew that

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ill try that then once

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like some weak plus the bracer is a godsend for Elysium

paper walrus
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Its very helpful if you give them a lot of bonus attack speed

brisk trail
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sword is a bit op can it be? with the upgrade to the 1 hit attack that deals 80 dmg or so

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whats your favorite weapon ? or better said which one is most op would you say

dense sinew
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I don't like the sword very much. I like the shield or the adamant rail

paper walrus
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Sword on a special run gave me my fastest clearspeed

brisk trail
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i fail so often with the bow jesus i feel like you need a lot of luch there to be succesfull

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shield is my fav LOL it's my safest weapon for higher heat

paper walrus
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Sword sorry*

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Yes shield is the strongest pick for me but it makes runs comically easy

dense sinew
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The sword is fun with the hammer upgrade that allows you to spam attack, but I don't know if it's been removed

paper walrus
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I try to give the bow full auto fire and dual hit or triple hit with hammers

brisk trail
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really? wtf hahaha i felt like the shield is one of the weaker weapons

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crazy

paper walrus
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It staggers and hits like a truck

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The shields bullrush defence is incredibly strong

brisk trail
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i hope they will keep on updating hades like diablo 3 for a long time

paper walrus
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and you can push enemies around so helpfully especially in asphodel

brisk trail
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really enjoying the game

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yeah, immunity if you point it at a direction for the rush but I also like trap kills with the regular attack, and if I have a DoT or AoE boon the special can reach far and wide and generally I'll be safely tucked away somewhere

paper walrus
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I am wanting an expansion when you reach the surface and Hades commands the armies of the undead to stop you as well ๐Ÿ˜„

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Or lets loose the dead titans onto the human battlefields, turns into shadow of the collosus

brisk trail
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i swear i would have no problem to even pay again 10-30 euro for a cool dlc

paper walrus
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Same

brisk trail
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one day after the game gets released

paper walrus
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I feel bad buying it in the epic store sale ๐Ÿ˜›

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Id have paid more happily

dense sinew
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Multiplayer hades?

brisk trail
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@paper walrus epic promised the launcher will be updated very often and worked on hard

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so i got a good feeling

paper walrus
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Id take a live race mode

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2 people same seed same weapon

brisk trail
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you know what would be cool as a dlc?

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if you could play as thanatos or so

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UFFFFFFF

paper walrus
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I am not really bothered by the Launcher Koko ๐Ÿ˜› Its low end but its lightweight as well

brisk trail
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oooo seeds would be cool just to have like in BoI

paper walrus
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I just feel guilty buying hades on the sale cos its worth more

brisk trail
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yeah it sure needs many many more features

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achievements would be cool for sure -_-

paper walrus
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It has seeds I think

finite ivy
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I am 100% planning on buying it again if it comes to Steam so no problems there.

brisk trail
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oh forreal? I haven't noticed a menu for it haha

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Supergiant Games is really a great company

fringe ivy
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Amen to that

brisk trail
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i never played bastion lol i bought Hades and found out thats their game

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so i bought it and finished in 1 day hahaha

paper walrus
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I kinda wanna knee Supergiants main story writer in the crotch sometimes but yeah

fringe ivy
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If any of you lovely folks as SG are reading this, thank you so much for everything. Bastion was my first Indie game and I love yall

paper walrus
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Write a happy ending dammit!

brisk trail
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i love it that there never are in game purchases or so

fringe ivy
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And Ditto to @paper walrus

paper walrus
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Company practises are good yeah ๐Ÿ˜„

brisk trail
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DAMN @fringe ivy the music in Bastion was crazy

fringe ivy
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I love spike on a rail

brisk trail
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i sometimes just listen to it on youtube no joke hahaha

fringe ivy
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And setting sail coming home is a mastapiece

brisk trail
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They're an amazing studio and I'm loving to noclip episodic documentary they're doing on thia game's production

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omg that song is my whole mood

fringe ivy
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I think why I love Hades is that it's like they are putting all their ideas and concepts into the game

paper walrus
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So any Zag X Dusa art out ๐Ÿ˜›

fringe ivy
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The Storytelling of Bastion, the combat versatility of transistor, the visual novel type stuff from Pyre

snow sail
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GIB PATCH

fringe ivy
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Hell, so many enemies make me think of previous games

paper walrus
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Oh wow just unlocked stifling darkness.. the idea of a 120 run now hurts me

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I was expecting way more

brisk trail
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is transistor worth finishing guys?

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i have it but didnt finish

tepid knot
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of course

fringe ivy
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Ye ye ye

brisk trail
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as good as bastion?

tepid knot
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You can do it in just 3-4 hours

gusty nimbus
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it's one of the best ending

fringe ivy
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Yep

gusty nimbus
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it's as much good, maybe even better

brisk trail
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wtf crazy ill do that then later ๐Ÿ˜„

fringe ivy
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If you remember, the combat system is a favotire of mine

brisk trail
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is it allowed to send youtube links here?

fringe ivy
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I kinda wish their was a wrath ability like Turn() lol

paper walrus
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If you are like me the ending will make you feel incredibly hollow and angry but yes its worth finishing

hexed smelt
fringe ivy
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I think the ending was bittersweet

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Kinda falls apart though when you think about it too hard, but I dont know If we can say it here

hexed smelt
brisk trail
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that was my favorite in bastion

fringe ivy
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Yep, understood

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Lets stop

brisk trail
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ou not allowed lol

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Bastion [OST] - 16 - The Mancer's Dilemma

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thats my favorite

hexed smelt
brisk trail
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stifling darkness is alright, I was scared of using it but it's not too bad imo

fringe ivy
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But back to Hades, I need enough skulls for a heat run lol

hexed smelt
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seriously, guys, this is the hades discussion channel, discuss hades here not the other games

fringe ivy
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the 120 one

brisk trail
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we were talking about all Supergiant Games do we have to switch channels everytime? lol

fringe ivy
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If I do the 120 one, does that also mean I did the 60 as well?

quaint wind
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that's why there's different channels

pale frigate
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Yes, there are dedicated channels

hexed smelt
brisk trail
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ou sorry then bro i just thought it might be a bit weird to continue talking there alone

hexed smelt
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though that one is spoiler free so if you wanted a detailed discussion then yes, go to the dedicated channels

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they're there for a reason

quick vector
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if there is no kronos scythe this patch i will commit massive inhaling of oxygen

brisk trail
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yeah i believe it would unlock it but I've never tested it haha

hexed smelt
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Edd - as far as I know, if you do a 120 run without having unlocked the 60 reward first, you'll get the 60 but not the 120

quick vector
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and then exhale with sadness

brisk trail
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oh oop

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all good bro im dont talking about it anyway just wanted to tell my favorite ost lol thanks! ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

hexed smelt
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i'm not sure though as i've only got the 15

brisk trail
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i misspoke then

tulip lava
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๐Ÿ…ฑatch

spiral ridge
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Oh, I guess I should get a 60 run done first thenn

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Thanks for the tip

hexed smelt
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points wearily at name

brisk trail
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do you get any in game strength for unlocking these statues?

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from the skull runs

hexed smelt
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no

brisk trail
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ou ok ok

mellow karma
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That was fun

pale frigate
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Has anybody done the 120 within the recent patch or two? I can do 60, but 120 is way too difficult for now

mellow karma
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Theseus + minotaur op

brisk trail
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only 30 here bro hahaha

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I'm working on 120 now, but I'm still trying to get used to the maxed out whipped frenzy. definitely not used to how fast everything goes

lusty wasp
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120 is hard but doable

brisk trail
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we need a guy who does Hades guides on youtube ._.

lusty wasp
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if you ignore enemy damage increase, reduced healing and reduced choices

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without these 3 its exactly 120 heat

restive yoke
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Oi
Any word on the update today

mellow karma
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@brisk trail there's no YouTube guide for it

restive yoke
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I'm itching to play

brisk trail
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a lot of it is just learning how to time those dodges especially in very crowded rooms with chargers

hexed smelt
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points at name

restive yoke
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๐Ÿ‘Œ

brisk trail
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you'll just be eternally pointing at your name until it drops LOL

pale frigate
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I realize, but dodging crowded rooms is what I am terrible at in every game xD

paper peak
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put prince z in smash boing

brisk trail
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@mellow karma yeah sure at the end its just about your skill and how you play bro but i meant with stuff like what necklace you feel is the best or which boons you should avoid and stuff like that

pale frigate
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@lusty wasp , would the battles take forever then? that's a lot of health and blocking for everybody

mellow karma
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@brisk trail ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚

Skill

brisk trail
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my little brother started playing and he was sure good at dodging at stuff but then i explained some stuff to him and he sure was much better thats what i meant

lusty wasp
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@brisk trail depends - some pacts are just too hard for how little heat they give imo

brisk trail
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@mellow karma whats so funny lol? dont you need skill in hades or what are you trying to say hahahaha

halcyon heron
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Honestly I think hades guides on youtube during pre-release would kinda be bad

brisk trail
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oh it varies for prefered playstyle a lot, I always try to force certain synergies but that's the thing about roguelikes, sometimes it's just luck that you get exactly what you want and you have to adapt

halcyon heron
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It will just confuse people when it releases

brisk trail
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yeah, these are not the final forms of stuff at all haha

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@lusty wasp yeah thats true man

mellow karma
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I got tag teamed by minos and other guys

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@brisk trail
Hades devs this isn't it's final form

๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚

brisk trail
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@halcyon heron yeah that might be confusing bro true

lusty wasp
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and i dont think it takes that long to kill everything - also i think its more avoiding getting killed than the hp and shields on enemies

brisk trail
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lolol! speaking of I'm excited to read through all the patch notes once it drops

mellow karma
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@brisk trail
Unless you add guide for patch ........
And update the guide as a series

brisk trail
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yeah a lot more avoiding enemies and learning their attacks

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@mellow karma yeah thats true there are many other games that get updates weekly too and the people do new guids and stuff

teal dagger
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Yeah and basically if you have a question on "what is the best boon or the best keepsake" you can ask it here and people'll be happy to help you

lusty wasp
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also getting used to their speed at max speed increase - quite different behaviour

pale frigate
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That I get, yes. But my preferred style is "kill everything faster than it can kill you" ๐Ÿ˜‰

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I played at max speed before

brisk trail
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yup! those speed ups are what I'm learning rn for 120 haha

teal dagger
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I hope they'll rework keepsakes or at least nerf the most powerful one so we have more options

pale frigate
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its doable, though havent tried for elysium...that seems like a nightmare

mellow karma
#

๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚
Only if you had thanatos damage

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When you compete with him I'm like damn

pale frigate
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That is where speed is good! His casts require time to complete

halcyon heron
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I honestly think it would be better to nerf all the god keepsakes, let you choose one god keepsake for the whole run, and then let you choose others

brisk trail
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depending on my health, in a thanatos room, sometimes I just dodge bc it's a free room if you don't get hit nor want to lose health

pale frigate
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^ that too

halcyon heron
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I feel like the "choose ares, then artemis, then athena" is sometimes the right answer because duo blades is so rediculous

lusty wasp
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honestly i get that supergiant changed the order for the pacts on the pact of punishment in part so the darkness doesnt feel useless if when you unlock it like with stifling darkness but the current 2 you start with dont seem the best choice

blazing pewter
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Anyone know if it is intended, that when you give up instead of dying as good as all the boons and their abilities stay the same. So you can pickup the same abilities to try again.

lusty wasp
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since i see these 2 as clearly the hardest to deal with

halcyon heron
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I feel like those "purple cast skeletons" in Asphodel are also way more rediculous than any other apshodel monster

lusty wasp
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and i think its intended so you can keep your seed for speedrunning and stuff

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not sure its the best idea for a system - id usually rather suicide and manually is often kinda annoying

halcyon heron
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I think the slay-the-spire model of letting you input a seedid is the best for "speedruns" and friend runs

brisk trail
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idr the costs for pact stuff, but I think they wanted to start off with those two as 1 cost pacts with no incremental stuff so people can just hop in and use their heat right away

blazing pewter
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Sometimes i just walk into the lava to get better boons for my run XD

halcyon heron
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Maybe a forced seed run doesn't let you keep anything

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Or it's a different gamemode

lusty wasp
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yea i also think entering a code would be best for that - even better if you could create one from a run you just had and loked

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liked*

blazing pewter
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Ye i would prefer that as well.

teal dagger
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I also feel like some keepsakes (like the duster) are total trash and could use a revamp

lusty wasp
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the duster is quite a lot of healing

teal dagger
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Yeah but why would you pick it over Nyx? Feels like much more healing

lusty wasp
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id say the scarf might be a bit strange, especially since it naturally gives more on higher heat runs

blazing pewter
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I think that sword one, forgot the name from the top of my head, with 1.5 invulnerability is the strongest now

lusty wasp
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always depends on the situation

brisk trail
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I still need to max all trinkets oof

lusty wasp
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but that one seems ok usually

halcyon heron
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I think the Nyx keepsake should straight up give you more darkness, so you can use it on darkness farming runs. Although I guess at some point you don't need more darkness

lusty wasp
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that point is really far away

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because of fated authority

flat vapor
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hi already at that point ๐Ÿ‘‹

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fated is just a darkness sink that doesn't really matter

blazing pewter
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๐Ÿ˜› ye i don't really need a lot of darkness anymore

halcyon heron
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i mean, you can trade excess darkness in at the converter guy for other stuff

lusty wasp
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you can trade everything into darkness

blazing pewter
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Do not need anything the converter guy sells as well XD i have enough of everything

lusty wasp
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because you need a lot more darkness than the rest

flat vapor
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when you get past 5 rerolls the darkness costs are extraordinarily high, like doesn't even matter high

brisk trail
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oh thats wild, I was curious about fated authority

blazing pewter
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Mostly into heat runs those rerolls are the first to go

teal dagger
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Maybe I'm wrong but I'd never pick somz trinkets because they feel weak

flat vapor
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5 rerolls is 5000, 6 rerolls is 10000, for scale

brisk trail
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oh thats wild

final nebula
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today is a new update ?

blazing pewter
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I do for the first 2 stages Lamdry, to get a build started

flat vapor
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in a few hours, yes

void vigil
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yes, itโ€™s today!

paper walrus
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Does Tisiphone have an unblockable attack?

brisk trail
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I'll just stick with playing on max stifling darkness haha

flat vapor
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how many hours? not sure

paper walrus
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The swirl thing she does?

final nebula
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thanks xD

void vigil
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the patch never has a pre determined time, btw

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It drops when it drops

flat vapor
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well you can dash out of it

brisk trail
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oh the step forward then step back thing?

paper walrus
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Ya

brisk trail
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i recommend dashing out of that LOL

blazing pewter
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I mostly expect to see it in the morning, earlier is always an extra ^^

paper walrus
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Yeah... I see why

lusty wasp
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maybe if she gets behind you from it

paper walrus
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My brain was like... I can block that right?

flat vapor
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i think in the big swirl she goes behind you, so unless you can move your mouse fast

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just dash out of it

lusty wasp
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but i dont think its unblockable

paper walrus
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120 heat run is literally killing me ๐Ÿ˜›

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I tried like three times

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Always seemed to get me

blazing pewter
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With the meaty update i only managed to get a 60 heat run in with the shield xD my skills are still too poor for the rest

void vigil
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I still only have 15

brisk trail
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LOL 120 is a fun challenge so far! it really puts your mind to work quickly

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I think after the patch I'm going to do a heatless or low heat run tho just to see that new content

blazing pewter
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How far did you get on 120 heat al.n?

void vigil
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I only just got enough heat for a 120 run, but I donโ€™t really feel like attempting it... I like normal runs and being able to win lol

brisk trail
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I think it was either dying in Elysium or mid Asphodel/bone hydra which I think the bone hydra has killed me more than elysium has tbh

flat vapor
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it took me so long to do 60 heat pre-beefy, i'm not gonna do 120 right now

brisk trail
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a part of me thinks that I should have slowly ramped up whipped frenzy 10% at a time and conpleted those runs until finally getting to the full 50 but I do love a baptism by fire haha

flat vapor
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unless hermes is literally god-tier boons

lusty wasp
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and to me the roadblock was the final bossfight or miniboss in elysium

blazing pewter
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elysium is a pain in my existence, cannot seem to find a good strategy to get through their easily. XD i always hope i get enough purple fountains to heal up

weary yew
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bonehydra is honestly stupid easy once you realize you can just hit it from far away, with it having no way to retaliate

lusty wasp
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not sure if i would ramp it up slowly - they behave differently on all speeds

dense sinew
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Feels like Hermes could give you an extra dash

lusty wasp
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so much more to learn

blazing pewter
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True loke, but those push purple beams made it a bit harder fight\

brisk trail
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oooo yeah the dodges for the Minotaur charge is very rough at full whipped frenzy

weary yew
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dashing into mino seems to work pretty well

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although harder to time on higher speeds i suppose

brisk trail
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@weary yew it's the six head part at full whipped frenzy that kills me the most haha

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just not used to all those attacks going off at full speed

lusty wasp
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also i think lots of people saw half speed increase as harder during murder death kill than full - havent seen anything like that now tho

weary yew
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@brisk trail that sounds really chaotic

brisk trail
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yah LOL I don't have problems with it without whipped frenzy but ya boi is going for that 120 run

storm fractal
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i find the deflect dash helps a lot with boss fights, along with the weak status.

blazing pewter
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You completed 60 heat with every weapon? or just going with your favorite weapon all the way?

lusty wasp
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weak status is great since the 'new' mirror upgrade is also a huge increase if you can enable it

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damage wise

blazing pewter
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The damage output with two curses is amazing

brisk trail
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Deflect dash is something I try to grab as much as possible and not every weapon I think. I really hate the bow LOL just not my playstyle

halcyon heron
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Yeah I hate the bow too.

brisk trail
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the best curses for that upgrade is that weak/sick combo because it lasts for quite a while

blazing pewter
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Ye the deflect dash is worth it now they removed the delay on it

lusty wasp
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also weak counts as a damage reduction for yourself and stacks with other reductions - and that stacking is really op

blazing pewter
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The bow is fine if you get some hammer upgrades, otherwise it is a bit of pain

brisk trail
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the bracer is my fav with weak haha. and yeah If i dont get a good hammer upgrade to start off the bow run, i know I'm not going to have a good time in the later biomes

blazing pewter
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Can you actually achieve 100% damage reduction XD I was wondering, if you get all the damage reduction perks

lusty wasp
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you can i did it

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there are no damage numbers anymore when you get it

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but yea you have to keep the reduction up

brisk trail
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oooo is it bracer + weak + Aphrodite and Athenas damage reduction boons?

lusty wasp
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i didnt use bracer but megs trinket

brisk trail
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ohhhh I see o::

lusty wasp
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had weak, aphrodite, athena and dionysus dr

blazing pewter
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The drunk god can already give you 45% damage reduction below 40% health, so that is a good boon in my opinion

brisk trail
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thats a whole mood

lusty wasp
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so had to make sure to keep weak up, stay close enough and ofc be below 40%hp

storm fractal
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I have posidon special on the rail, aphrodite attack, weapon upgrade 3 specials, and athena dash right now.

brisk trail
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yeah, you just have to get lucky with getting rare/epic and/or poms to get those numbers up there

lusty wasp
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dionysus also has dr for standing in his cast aoe but thats too annoying to do

blazing pewter
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Ye true on that

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While his party is pretty neat if you get the +ammo upgrade

lusty wasp
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i mean would be nice with his legendary but i just dont like it since i cant see enough with it

brisk trail
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oh man posidon special on the triple special sounds like enemies would fly everywhere

storm fractal
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dionysus is good on the sword special if you get the upgrade that lets you special constantly.

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aoe poison dashing

lusty wasp
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poseidon special on gun also means you knock them out of the next 2 hits

blazing pewter
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I prefer the deflect on the sword special if you get the constant special XD you almost cannot get hit if you spam it xD

storm fractal
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no they all hit,

lusty wasp
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so need to use it differently

empty vale
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no new patch today?

storm fractal
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im doing it right now

vapid drift
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patch today.

empty vale
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they have a time listed anywhere

vapid drift
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no

brisk trail
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guys where is this patch ??????

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that's surprising that they all hit, are you aiming at the same spot or are you making like a line with the special

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not info ?

hexed smelt
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points at name

tropic ore
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I would settle for some juicy patch notes right now. ๐Ÿ‘€

hexed smelt
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there is no set time, just that it will happen today

empty vale
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booooooo

hexed smelt
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patch notes don't go up until the patch itself does

tropic ore
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For this game, yeah

brisk trail
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hmm would be cool if they would have said a time

signal spoke
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they work on the patch to ensure its the best it can be, so they deliver the patch when they deem its ready! due to that, there isnt always an exact set time

void vigil
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they donโ€™t know the time themselves ๐Ÿ˜…

signal spoke
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however, most of the patches in the past have fallen around similar times

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your patience will be rewarded though!

vale kite
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be patient

brisk trail
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its not a huge problem for me but would have been cool yeah

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i undestand tho that its not so easy

halcyon heron
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Alright guys, I got a surefire way to pass the time:

  1. Take a bat.
  2. Hit yourself really hard
  3. When you wake up, the patch will be released!
brisk trail
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omg

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you are a genius

vale kite
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everytime someone says the p-word the update is delayed

brisk trail
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we should hit ourselves really hard BEFORE taking a bath, so the blood will wash away ๐Ÿ˜‰

vale kite
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(the p-word is patch)

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there we go again

brisk trail
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its gotten longer again HAHAHA xD

muted dagger
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rooD POTATO

paper walrus
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Are the erebus rooms free rooms or do they take place of another?

vale kite
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take place of another iirc

paper walrus
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:/ weak

halcyon heron
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I feel like on my heat runs, it's like: "Here, let's give you thousands of useless things instead of making your run actually completable"

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no boons, everything is a pom or darkness

subtle ivy
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^Or Ambrosia.

halcyon heron
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ITS HERE

spiral ridge
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PATCH

snow sail
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IT'S HAPPENING

paper walrus
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Yeah I like the erebus rooms as a skill challenge to help you through hard runs

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rather than... well crap ๐Ÿ˜›

brisk trail
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WOOOO!

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PAAAATCH

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TIME TO PLAY

subtle ivy
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OH DANG

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PAAATCH!!!

covert glen
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eyyyy

hexed smelt
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showtime!

glossy geyser
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its about that time!!

lavish heart
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I'm fast as hecc boiiii

mellow karma
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๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚

It's here

potent girder
tulip lava
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๐Ÿ…ฑatch

fiery pebble
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Ok but

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Why nerf powershots?

brisk trail
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FINALY!

spiral ridge
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NOO Instant Nova is gone

mellow karma
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@fiery pebble casts

fiery pebble
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Actually I guess thats a silly question, they were a bit too good

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No Spear Special buffs

tulip locust
#

The announcements tab is broken for me.

fiery pebble
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Guess that attack remains really bad, oh well

quick cedar
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Guess fast boi is finally here

vale kite
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MINE

wooden quartz
glossy geyser
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for some reason I cant see the announcments tab

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rip

wooden quartz
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hhhhhhhhhh

storm fractal
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refreshing my game to get patch

flat notch
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When I see Charion

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Oh no he's hot

tulip locust
wooden quartz
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ok now its working

chilly stump
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Hey all! That's a Discord thing, not us unfortunately.

fiery pebble
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Its fine for me

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So its probably Discord-end

paper walrus
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Oh gods why did I take the flurry attack on the sword

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my finger is breaking

chilly stump
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I experience it every once in a while, it seems to just take longer to load through.

paper walrus
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QOL hold to attack

halcyon heron
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Interesting, I felt like "sick" thematically fit more than "poison"

vale kite
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nickname subject to change

spiral ridge
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I'm surprised at no nerfs to Hunting Blades

halcyon heron
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I kinda liked the thought of Dyonisus getting people hungover

signal spoke
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belgo you are being beaten at your own game

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how can you make smiley versions if all the new characters are already smiling

vapid drift
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Damage Reduction effects such as Different League (Aphrodite) now additive instead of multiplicative
this should be the other way around

vale kite
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I KNOW im cryign

little inlet
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ok

lusty wasp
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i hope so

little inlet
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what does hermes do

vale kite
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he goes shoom

grave crypt
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@little inlet HE GOES FAST

little inlet
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yeah but like

mellow karma
vale kite
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he r uns!

hexed smelt
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he's got hair clips

little inlet
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does he give boons?

hexed smelt
#

guys he has dinky little hair clips and i'm gonna cry

lapis nova
#

I'm playing chicken with actually trying this game. It's installed and ready to go; I just haven't launched it yet. Is now a good time? ๐Ÿ˜‚

halcyon heron
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Maybe the "sick" just being alcohol poisoning

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that's my headcannon now

grave crypt
#

The design of Hermes is so flavorful

fiery pebble
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Hermes is so smug

unborn bronze
#

In the name of Hades let's face bugs and features so I can beat this game!

brisk trail
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very good time jellie

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and thats what I always thought sick was haha

thick ivy
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[orpheus from hadestown voice] MR. HERMES?!

paper walrus
#

Oh god I just got done with the hydra

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SO MANY FRIGGIN CLICKS

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My arm doesnt work anymore

blazing pewter
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hehehe ^^

lusty wasp
#
  • Ranking up a Keepsake now refreshes its on-equip effect if it has one -- ๐Ÿ˜ฆ
halcyon heron
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Damn:
"๐Ÿ“ข Added distinct sound when Infernal Troves unlock after encounters
๐Ÿ“ข Added distinct sound when Wells of Charon unlock after encounters"

Straight outta the hades-feedback

tepid knot
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update donwloading !

quasi sleet
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if I don't get to go fast ima be mildly peeved

past sluice
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@lapis nova Yes, definitely - unless you have a SEVERE aversion to re-balancing, in which case the feeling of Hades being pretty darn complete will be overshadowed by balance changes.

paper walrus
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Oh dear lord I am never taking that mod again

quasi sleet
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i'd say now is the best time to get the game, unless you MUST have the full content available

lapis nova
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Nah, I play several games that get rebalanced often enough (like Hearthstone) so I don't mind that at all. I didn't want to try the game when it was suuuuppper new, but I am happy to experience it before 100% ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

quasi sleet
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there is enough in the game right now for an easy 20 hours of gameplay, and much much more if you like a challenge

cerulean urchin
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Are we done with the pings yet?

quasi sleet
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this game sucked me in way harder than I expected watching gameplay and trailers, just something about it is really appealing

tulip locust
#

Maybe when the announcements tab actually works.

cerulean urchin
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Fair

wicked lagoon
#

hi! I picked up Hades while it was on a huge sale, and I kinda wanted to wait for it to be out and finished before trying it, but I'm getting a bit impatient :D I wanted to know, how long is a playthrough? will I spoil the game for myself by playing it now?

tulip locust
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Oh we got newcomers?

pliant tulip
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The length of a playthrough depends on how good you are.

quasi sleet
#

how long a playthrough is depends on how good you are honestly

tulip locust
#

I don't even know how to judge how long a playthrough is for a new player.

civic nimbus
#

this dev's house looks awesome

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I want it all

gloomy osprey
#

it takes me roughly 30-40 minutes for a full playthrough to the current "end" however as a new player yours will probably be .... much... shorter

brisk trail
tulip locust
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It took me a great many tries to get through the first biome when I first started playing.

vapid drift
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....yes. much shorter.

wicked lagoon
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of course, I've played the Binding of Isaac too so I know the genre, I intend a "full" playthrough

brisk trail
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Raw Hermes image for those who want it

past sluice
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@wicked lagoon Don't worry about spoilers - story is added as-it-goes.

pliant tulip
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There's quite a bit of replayability fortunately with the various boons and upgrades, and the game is challenging.

tulip locust
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Now if I die before the first boss it's a seriously, horribly bad run.

quasi sleet
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it'll probably take 15-30 runs to beat the game on base difficulty, assuming your familiar with the genre

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maybe 10-20 hours

past sluice
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@wicked lagoon Also - there are only 3 out of 4 biomes in the game yet.

quasi sleet
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but hard mode in this game goes very, very hard

wicked lagoon
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that's the info I was looking for Dragomok

tulip locust
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@quasi sleet And also feels like padding. ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

wicked lagoon
#

anyway I think I'll be fine, I platinumed both Bastion and Transistor

civic nimbus
#

this game is uhhh

quasi sleet
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ehh I disagree, the game feels completely different at 30, 60, 90, and 120 heat, different enough to not just feel tacked on padding

civic nimbus
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....way harder than them. lol

wicked lagoon
#

including all dreams with all sanctuaries up

gloomy osprey
#

you seem to like supergiant games, so give hades a go qq3

wicked lagoon
#

even harder than Bastion with all the 10 handicaps?

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@gloomy osprey I will, I just wanted to decide if keeping to wait or not ^^

civic nimbus
#

yes pieLUL hades is hardest out of the series by quite a bit. But it's also my favorite by a long shot with bastion a close second, and transistor third

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pyre fourth ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

quasi sleet
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120 heat is the hardest thing supergiant has ever had in their games not even close IMO

tulip locust
#

@wicked lagoon I got those achievements! For doing the dreams with all the idols activated! One of my proudest gaming achievements.

quasi sleet
#

still not even really close to beating it

long saffron
#

No new dialogue :C

gloomy osprey
#

that's up to you! i personally like watching the game expand on its own time but if you want to let it ripen there's nothing wrong with that

tulip locust
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@long saffron To be fair the previous update like just came out.

lost monolith
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I've played Hades for two hours straight, and just when I'm about to logg of they release a new update

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T-T

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I

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I'm going back in

gloomy osprey
wicked lagoon
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basically I wanted to ask if it feels like an incomplete game still or not

ruby moss
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Good luck warrior

tulip locust
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@wicked lagoon Playing the game through Early Access, and playing it as a finished product are going to be two different experiences. For us actively playing, when new updates are added, things actually progress in the world, in a way to introduce the things.

civic nimbus
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input buffering wew

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thank you Supergiant themid11Love

wicked lagoon
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it would be upsetting to reach an arbitrary gate and read "welp sorry, that's it for now, come by later"

tulip locust
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It only feels incomplete in that there isn't an ending, lol.

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But it's super polished and cohesive.

gloomy osprey
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oh, yeah, then you'll want to wait

tulip locust
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And when you get as far as you can, the characters banter about it.

vapid drift
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not an arbitrary gate, no

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you beat a boss and complete the game.

wicked lagoon
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maybe I should just try it, I guess ^^ hard to ask such a question

tulip locust
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@wicked lagoon You beat all that there is, and ||the narrator makes up some reason that you die||, and then you get sent back to the House of Hades, as you do if you die along the way.

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(not really a spoiler-spoiler to any degree, but figured I'd be safe)

wicked lagoon
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so it's like Slay the Spire, where you got that Victory? screen

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Iget it

quasi sleet
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hades is like slay the spire without the heart atm

ruby moss
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I've enjoyed enter the gungeon and this game is well worth it if you like that kind of game

civic nimbus
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casting is good again!? D:

ruby moss
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I'm 90 hours in still exploring new things

civic nimbus
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I love you devs

wicked lagoon
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alright, thanks for the input guys

tulip locust
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I don't like roguelikes and I love Hades.

wicked lagoon
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I'll see you in hell (figuratively ๐Ÿ‘€ )

ruby moss
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I figured all of supergiants other games are godlike this one should be pretty good too

tulip locust
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Whenever there are updates, there's usually in-game dialogue introducing the new elements into the pre-established world. It's easily one of the most polished and self-aware early access experiences I've encountered.

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Wait, one of?

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No this is easily the best early access experience I've ever encountered.

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By a long shot.

vapid drift
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yeah, it's amazing.

tulip locust
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I just didn't think about it before saying it.

vapid drift
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it feels like a complete game even knowing that it isn't.

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exquisite.

ruby moss
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The updates keep bringing me back

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It's tons of new stuff every time

tepid flax
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Hades are great and i want to sacrifice my soul and firstborn to supergiants

elfin sparrow
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Yeah the game is extremely polished despite being in early access

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The moment I saw a gameplay video I knew I was going to like it, but it still exceeded those expectations. With most games these days when I watch gameplay videos I know I will not like them

tulip locust
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The entire internet: EPIC SUCKS. DOWN WITH EPIC. BOYCOTT EPIC.

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Me: happily playing Hades

elfin sparrow
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Yeah, it doesn't bother me much. I am happy for Supergiant to get the financial stability

unborn bronze
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Have you seen this Charon 198 stream?

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:D

jolly lodge
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epic is one of the few left that still gives us free (usually paid) games, origin stopped ages ago

fallen venture
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chill down with the pings plz

hexed smelt
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there were three and all were relevant

tulip locust
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I think 4.

void vigil
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guys, 3 pings once a month is not that bad :P

storm fractal
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This game is so gorgeous. I hope they keep adding gods. I know their long term plan seems minimal but these artworks are so freakin good.

elfin sparrow
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I was happy for the pings. Brought my attention to those sweet, sweet patch notes

fallen venture
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3 pings in less than 2 hours, it's a bit too much for my taste

storm fractal
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Give us Hepheastus and some Titans

tulip locust
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@storm fractal I think with Hermes they fulfilled their goal for total number of gods.

storm fractal
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NUUUUUUUUUU

tulip locust
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But that doesn't mean they won't decide to add more. It's not set in stone.

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They just hit their intended goal.

storm fractal
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From the amount of empty slots it seems more are coming

brisk trail
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That Hermes necklace seems really good

wind river
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I don't know if they'll release more Gods - there's definitely mounting complexity the more they add. I hope so! I'd love to see Apollo in the game

tulip locust
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Well there will be more NPCs.

storm fractal
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Yes Apollo and Hephaestus

elfin sparrow
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Yeah, that necklace really does look good

tulip locust
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Hey, the announcements page is working again.

brisk trail
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Do you have a favorite god? not talking about how usefull he is or so

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i find zeus is the coolest hahhaha

unborn bronze
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For now game feels like more balanced but less funny );

tiny juniper
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hey guys, would you take vicious skewer or multi skewer for the spear?

tulip locust
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Artemis is my favorite.

fiery skiff
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@unborn bronze I think it's good because I don't want another Isaac with game-breaking things

tulip locust
waxen maple
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your cast is fully automatic xD how amazing this can be? Im a damn machine gun

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lmao

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๐Ÿ˜„

brisk trail
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Hey yall!

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whats Hermes subtitle?

hexed smelt
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god of swiftness

proper wing
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is hermis the last god to be relased into the game?

glossy geyser
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"No mortal has ever approached the surpassing swiftness of the messenger of the gods." (if thats what you meant)

brisk trail
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I was thinking what sparrow said

glossy geyser
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k

hexed smelt
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God of Swiftness is his title in dialogue

brisk trail
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Who's his VA?

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Thanks btw sparrow

unborn bronze
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@fiery skiff But why? It feel's like a really cool thing for me. But maybe you are right.

lusty wasp
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hmm if hes so fast why did he come last? :S

hexed smelt
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he was dealing with a speeding ticket, be nice

little inlet
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omg theres bots in the dev stream

topaz lake
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@hexed smelt hey is the wiki updated?

hexed smelt
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dude

topaz lake
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yea patch just dropped

fiery pebble
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It just came out

topaz lake
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ill check back in like 3 days

hexed smelt
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please look at the LENGTH of the patch notes

fiery pebble
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Have patience

hexed smelt
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EVERY SINGLE OLYMPIAN has had ALL OF THEIR BOONS rebalanced.

paper walrus
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Okay are the tiny chariots making cat noises?

hexed smelt
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as far as i can tell, anyway.

topaz lake
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really?

paper walrus
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cos its frickin adorable as they suicide bomb me

topaz lake
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i skimmed most of that part

glossy geyser
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smh

hexed smelt
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+ Re-balanced Attack, Special, and Cast damage bonuses for each Olympian

topaz lake
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every single olympian?

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damn

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i mean

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good lukc

hexed smelt
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the patch has been out for an hour

topaz lake
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oh

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damn

elfin sparrow
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Yeah, pretty exciting. Even if they end up botching some balance at least they are still heavily messing around with numbers

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That is, if they end up doing that. Not saying they already did

paper walrus
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Meow?

brisk trail
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lol itll take a few days at least to get it updated

hexed smelt
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once the dev stream is over, i'll sit down and look at hermes's boons. after that, it'll be the same as i do on other patches, and i'll go alphabetically by god

humble pulsar
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Is the wiki updated yet, I know it's only been about an hour but you're the god of writing right? :Kappa:

hexed smelt
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๐Ÿ”ช

humble pulsar
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:p <3

glossy geyser
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just use time travel to update the wiki as soon as the update comes out :4head:

topaz lake
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my

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game

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doesn't work

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should i re install

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i think i will

void vigil
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verify your files

halcyon heron
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where is the dev stream

void vigil
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its going to end soon

topaz lake
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what should i verify in my files

void vigil
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click the gear icon next to hades and click "verify files"

topaz lake
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ah

paper walrus
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Whats your fave dumb death after elesium

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The beetle is mine

topaz lake
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uh what gear icon

void vigil
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wait ill get a screenshot idk that im getting it right

topaz lake
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oh on epic client

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yes

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mb

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i was right clicking on the game shortcut

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i found it

void vigil
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anyway, you guys, be patient with the wiki. it is being updated by a human being and the patch only just came out. if you want to know the patch changes for now, just read #hades-patch-notes

topaz lake
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what i gathered from the patch notes is that poseidon does more damage

spiral karma
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Does anyone else have a hard time with the new God vs. God levels? The angry god's power is wayyyyyy too difficult to deal with

brisk trail
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Tried the new build, and my attack input wouldnt do anything 1/3 of the time. It pissed me off a lot

spiral karma
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yea.. I feel incredibly powerless this update

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Already got enemies with armour in teh first few levels.. not sure if it's a bug or on purpose

brisk trail
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Like especially with the new enemies, I need my attack to go off in order to play

topaz lake
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@void vigil uh that kinda did nothing though

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do you have any other solutions

brisk trail
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This is literally a game breaking bug

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I sent a bug report so hopefully it gets fixed

elfin sparrow
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The input was supposed to be improved from this patch as well

novel geyser
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Weird. I just played through and won my first try with some of the new Hermes stuff. Had no issues like that.

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Though there's a Hermes boon that seems to sometimes break the enemies

void vigil
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could it be an issue with your mouse?

brisk trail
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I played on gamepad, and no other inputs had issues

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Inside the house of hades, the button didnt seem to have input issues either

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I grabbed the attack speed boon right at the start, which I suspect caused the issue

novel geyser
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Maybe that's the problem, I didn't get that one

brisk trail
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At first I thought the boon was supposed to increase attack speed without increasing net DPS, but I realized that wasn't consistently the case

novel geyser
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I got the heal on dash after hit and dashing through an enemy slows them 90% <- seems a tad broken

fiery pebble
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I have noticed it as well

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Not 1/3 of the time

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But every 5th or 6th attempt at a shield charge, the input just got dropped

civic nimbus
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butterfly emote when pieSmug

elfin sparrow
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I definitely had issues with shield charge and input before the patch as well

hexed smelt
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dev stream is now over

civic nimbus
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Thanks heaps for the stream today; really awesome from the devs

fiery pebble
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I forgot to give Hermes Ambrosia

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Again

signal spoke
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hes too quick

wooden condor
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the gift button didnt appear to me with him

modest dirge
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butterflies good

wooden condor
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that is odd right?

chilly stump
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Was it the first time you met him?

wooden condor
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nope

void vigil
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ur right and u should say it joanne

chilly stump
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Hmmm I'm not positive if that's a bug or not! I'd say F10 it if you're still in the moment.

wooden condor
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im not but will report if it occurs again

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what does his keepsake do?

modest dirge
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@void vigil hell yea brudder

little lava
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@wooden condor stacking dodge and movespeed like thanatos's

vast junco
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all the butterflies must have migrated to the fourth biome

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the final chapter: butterflies

river spindle
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Tbh Hermes keepsake falls off quickly. Unlike with Thanatos where you have time to get each room perfect, Hermes you can fail purely on how long it takes enemies to spawn. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

elfin sparrow
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Yeah, I was thinking that could be an issue

woeful lotus
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yeah but its easy enough to get quite a high stack

elfin sparrow
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Like maybe if you have it equipped it should speed the spawn up

woeful lotus
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bigger issue is the perks you get etc

little lava
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I'm personally pretty sad we don't have a keepsake for hermes boons as I like to take those keepsakes for certain god runs and I wanted to do some hermes runs

void vigil
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ok but: the ultimate speedrunning keepsake

river spindle
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The worst is when you accidently go into a survival room, and have to survive for a minute or so. Auto-losing the bonus.

woeful lotus
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id say the hermes keepsake is honestly what we should want for all the god ones

little lava
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@woeful lotus I agree with that but sometimes I just like to mess with certain gods boons and just try to make a build out of one gods boons

potent gyro
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As much as I'd like to have personalized buffs from the keepsakes, having a guaranteed spawn of a certain god when you want is too useful for me at this point to pas up

elfin sparrow
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Yeah, I do agree with @woeful lotus though as far as each keepsake actually having more flavor. I do wish I didn't feel like I had to take a boon keepsake for the first two biomes

flat notch
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Dammit just got the hermes keepsake and realised it's not a usual one

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Gimme more cute gods

woeful lotus
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what they could do is make it so the keepsakes give the rarity bonus as part of the stacking bonus

brisk trail
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Regarding god keepsakes, who's to say we couldn't have the best of both worlds? We could have multiple keepsakes for each god by the end of development.

woeful lotus
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doubt they will have more than 1 per god

elfin sparrow
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@woeful lotus Yeah that could work, they would just have to scale things down

woeful lotus
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well they wouldnt need to scale them down really cause you would start lower

little lava
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I mean its all on the devs if they want each god boon to have more specialised effects than I'm with it I'm just sad cause I was looking forward to doing some hermes runs

elfin sparrow
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Well, isn't that scaling down? If you start lower?

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I didn't mean the scaling would be slower

woeful lotus
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yes and no in the sense that you might end up higher than current if you play well etc

flat notch
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@brisk trail That would of course be the dream, but that's a long ways off atm

woeful lotus
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since each god have a debuff of sort it would be easy enough to have the keepsakes improve those in some way

fiery pebble
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Here is what Im curious about

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Is 100% dodge chance possible?

little lava
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I mean didnt they make percents additive, so probably

woeful lotus
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dont think they made doadge additive

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but even if not you can definately get pretty high

vale kite
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@signal spoke hey look at me

signal spoke
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NOOOOO.

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WOW.

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look how they massacred my boy....

proper wing
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So is 8 gods the maximum they will release?

signal spoke
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I don't believe they've said anywhere that 8 is their definitive maximum, just that 8 was the amount they were planning to get to as a base. They might see 8 as a good number and keep it that way or decide to add more later

proper wing
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Would like to see helios be implemented

void vigil
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belgo,

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i hate this,

tulip lava
nimble glacier
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i'm pretty sure the development roadmap (button on the main menu iirc) says we're at 8/8 gods and have one weapon, one boss and one biome yet to come

spiral karma
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They said minimum 8 gods, etc. so they might add more, or for dlcs etc.

vale kite
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make characters that smile in their sprites and this is what happens

nimble glacier
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well, yes but in terms of the scope of getting Hades 1.0 released the gods are 'done' so to speak

void vigil
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this icon's Fleshiness disturbs me greatly

tulip lava
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belgo you never fail to horrify me

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thanks

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gotta keep my ribbon but i'm fully fast themed now

void vigil
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F for space jan

tulip lava
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still yet to come up with a good fast pun

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spaceport janitor gotta sleep for a bit

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that's a good friend

brisk trail
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he peek

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hermes says bisexual rights!

topaz lake
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does he?

tulip lava
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yes

brisk trail
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considering he's an ancient greek, probably

topaz lake
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good point

rotund finch
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I just submitted my first bug report ๐Ÿ™Œ
I haven't come across many lol

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its a really funny one tbh lol
I had it happen once before, when you roll in the house sometimes it can lock your animation direction and so you just slide around when you walk letting you like moonwalk lol

austere walrus
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THUNDER FLOURISH (ZEUS) - SPECIAL LIGHTNIGH BOLT
ELECTRIC SHOT (ZEUS) - CAST LIGHTNING BOLT
THUNDER DASH (ZEUS) - DASH THUNDER BOLT
STORM LIGHTNING (ZEUS) - LIGHTNING CHAIN + 2
DOUBLE STRIKE (ZEUS) - LIGHTNING BOLT CHANCE TO STRIKE TWICE +47%
sTATIC DISCHARGE (ZEUS) - JOLT DAMAGE
DREAD FLIGHT (HAMMER) - SPECIAL CAN STRIKE UP TO 8 FOES
FLAYED FLOURISH (CHAOS) - SPECIAL + 60% DMG
SWIFT FLOURISH (NEW HERMES BOON) - SPECIAL IS 12% FASTER
LIGHTNING BOLT (ZEUS LEGENDARY) - +40 LIGHTNING DMG
Just got this build in my last game with the shield. It was soooo good.

silk wave
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are there VODs of the dev streams?

lusty wasp
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was streamed on youtube, so yes

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just use the link from the announcement

silk wave
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thanks, it somehow didn't work on the tab I had open

charred cloud
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Am I the only one who cant stand Dionysos' boons?

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Or maybe I just couldn't find a proper tactic to play them

tulip lava
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privileged status

mighty raven
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is there any link to new ost "last words"? Im in love with it!

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ok, whatever, got it ๐Ÿ˜„

random shuttle
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@charred cloud I love the guy, he was my first pass to defeat Meg, just by stacking "poison" and staying away from her using the bow.

gleaming timber
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I just hope this game hits Linux officially so I don't have to restart my laptop to play when I take a rest of work

halcyon heron
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Can we pet the dog yet

coarse fable
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Any spearman who defeat minotaur and thes?which boons are better?

spiral ridge
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Better for what? Beating them?

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With the spear I like to go a dash attack heavy build usually

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So boons that support that (though my favorite run with spear I got aphro dash and legendary which is just broken in combination)

brisk trail
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Hi, sry for my english

I buy Hades today i kill the hydra etc, now i want to know how can have the codex ? anyone can help me ?

hexed smelt
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talk to achilles some more

spiral ridge
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^

hexed smelt
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after you've done a few runs, he'll give you the codex

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achilles is the man with a spear in the upper corridor in the house

brisk trail
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okey bro thx ;:D

spiral ridge
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What are people's favorite 60 heat set-ups? I'm able to consistently get to T&M with 40 heat off whipped frenzy and I'm wondering what I should add for the last 20.

olive jungle
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i've updated my look

hexed smelt
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i like how it's totally incomprehensible until you squint and THEN you realise venthighdiss has returned

olive jungle
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venthighdiss never left

signal spoke
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the return

toxic sleet
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Is it possible to help translate the game into French?

livid cargo
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i think they will eventually translate the game after full launch

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i legit forgot patch was today

rotund finch
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When you max out all your ambrosia including Hermes and you just wanna keep spreading the love failbag