Thanatos you say??? :3c
https://twitter.com/artpaiges/status/1105892856177274881
#h1-discussion
chilly stump
hexed smelt
(i assume this is his model and not concept art or w/e)
hexed smelt
but like. nail polish.
wispy zealot
it's just a no shoes thing
hexed smelt
no shoes is apparently house of hades policy
amber garden
Its too warm for shoes
wispy zealot
I guess I never really thought about it!
And the brimstone probably covers up any stinky foot problems.
vale kite
welcome to the house of hades, please leave your shoes in the nearest lava pond
hexed smelt
meg's not wearing any either
rotund finch
i feel like they would step on like a rock or something really easily though down there that would hurt lol
chilly stump
Godly feet don't suffer from cuts and bruises I guess. I wonder if Achilles is frustrated by that. 🤔
amber garden
God I love all the characters in this. Everyone is lovely/terrible/perfect and it's just chef kiss
wispy zealot
Achilles is just mad abt being the only one to wear shoes
Oh right?? I love them all and they all surprise me.
hexed smelt
theseus..... [squints] MIGHT be wearing shoes???? his feet are a different colour to his legs
wispy zealot
Which is wild
Like, I expected to be on the money about one character but it's been generally surprising to meet come to know most of them.
vale kite
theseus is barefoot as well i think
rotund finch
if i get to Theseus this run ill let you guys know LOL
wispy zealot
Good luck!
fallen folio
Good luck
rotund finch
its starting out well i got titan toppler as my first boon, and i normally run the shield so I hopefully wont die lol
vale kite
RIP curse of longing
amber garden
Multiskewer is going to be bonkers good
karmic trellis
yup shield explosion nerfed
amber garden
" + Fixed an issue where the Minotaur's attacks could make him wall-slam himself" Thought this was intended?
lol
karmic trellis
was fun while it lasted
hexed smelt
oh good, because i totally didn't think the minotaur did enough damage as it was
quasi sleet
ayyyyyy they fixed the out of bounds thing
im sad they didn't nerf minotaurs health pool, damage buff would make more sense
paper peak
hahahahahaha 
brisk trail
Fixed a rare issue where Nemean Chariots could spawn in the House of Hades (don't ask...) I'm sorry I just have to ask!
hexed smelt
i wonder what the balance issue with curse of longing is
paper peak
"lots of people have been saying that the new bosses have too much health so lets see if they were adjusted"
no health changes
bosses have been buffed to be more aggressive overall
BLESS YOU SUPERGIANT
amber garden
I would have to guess it's to do with the second Ares boon of bonus damage to already cursed enemies. I figure it just loops on itself?
vast junco
theseus with not as ridiculous blocking? yes please! theseus with ultra aggression? potential fear
quasi sleet
depending on how much they buffed their offence the dynamic duo might be easier now
amber garden
Yeah the blocking was pretty silly, glad thats changed. Im happy he is attack more too.
quasi sleet
definitely gonna be easier with the rail
amber garden
Still havent gotten a good run with the rail.
Thats not to say I havent made it Far
Just havent succeeded.
spring cipher
I love when the bosses are agressive and have tight windows
Asterius was the closest we got to that
And now hes even more agressive
Nice!
paper peak
The best success I've found with the Rail is with the hammer upgrade that increases the firerate and magazine size
quasi sleet
the rail was my first (and only) 60 post-patch
paper peak
then combining that with either crit chance or Dionysus's on-hit poison effect, because you can stack it up to max really quickly
fiery pebble
Its pretty ridiculous
quasi sleet
if you are playing on gamepad its a lot harder to use rail vs m+kb
granite pecan
LOL the nemean chariots spawning in the house was me
i wonder if anyone else got that or if it was my special bug
minor hornet
vast junco
" + Improved timing of audio feedback as Wrath effects are expiring" YES! i even mentioned this in feedback earlier today
glad they were working on it anyway
granite pecan
they were cool in the house. it was just when i tried to leave that they became an issue
gotta love dropping into tartarus and three chariots start running you over before you can pick up your first boon
alpine stratus
hjgfhjfhjfj its fine having some pets...some carpets, if you will,
shy wave
So how much success do people have with Dionysus or Poseidon focused builds? I've found Poseidon to be great for clearing but feeling really lacking on bosses, and I like the festive fog but I'm not sure about the damage from blight wine
Want to try out some new stuff since Ares/Aphrodite got removed for the time being and I've been running way too much Zeus/Artemis
fiery pebble
Poseidon is slightly worse Athena for bosses
In that his effect doesnt really do anything whereas deflect does
But his damage is the same
So he is still good
paper peak
Dio tends to be pretty helpful for me
blight wine is really solid damage if you have enough attack speed, and it's also just an easily applied status effect to go with the new mirror bonus
shy wave
I like the fog end of Dio's stuff, and the reduced damage under 40% hp
Easy triggering of new mirror bonus is a great point, I need to factor that in
Does his blight wine do anything extra damage wise if you hit something that already has 5 stacks?
vale kite
@hexed smelt you could get 1k+ doom damage ticks per second with dire misfortune + curse of longing
shy wave
Yeah... I had so many successful spear and shield runs with that combo...
hexed smelt
i mean given the ridiculous health pools on the beef boys i'd quite welcome that setup
given that i had a curse of longing/dire misfortune run and still died :/
vast junco
one million years sparring match with bull boy 2.0
shy wave
So what keepsakes do people usually run with?
Do you take a specific god keepsake usually or one of the passive effects?
unique trench
good patch, i like that boon upgrade buff
shy wave
Edited, meant keepsake not boon
hexed smelt
god keepsake in tartarus, earring after that - though i've been taking the spearpoint in asphodel to level it up some as of late
vast junco
i really like the various buffs to some of the more interesting spear hammer upgrades
placid basalt
anyone know if i can take 2x Artemis and it works for Stage 1 and 2?
shy wave
Yeah, definitely like the new spear hammer stuff. I usually do similar to Nav although I've been trying out the spear in Elysium atm
digital jewel
hmm I still run Butterfly in Tartarus
shy wave
You don't get guaranteed boon for the specific god twice in a row, but it would give you more Artemis rarity
Spear is my second favorite wep next to sword, so any changes for either of them I like
placid basalt
i can only finish stage 3 with the bow but i want to use the spear ... witch keepsake do you use for spear first`?
paper peak
what gods do you usually go for with spear?
hexed smelt
eh, i'm not a huge fan of the butterfly because it feels like it jsut punishes me for making a tiny slip-up and taking an itty bit of damage in a room
digital jewel
Rail > Shield > Spear > Sword > Bow, for me, but The changes to the Bow have made it feel a lot smoother to play with so that might change my opinion of it
vale kite
hot take but artemis on spear is pretty neat
vast junco
i was about to say the same thing tbh
crit stacking etc. on spear with artemis is fun
paper peak
I think my only spear win was an Artemis one
and then I'm still devoid of Shield wins because I have no idea what to do with it outside of "knockback lul" 
digital jewel
the new hammer upgrade for the dash attack is insane
vast junco
slap fast bull rush and athena attack boon on that baby and go to town
shy wave
Let's see... Spear I use Ares/Aphro but that got nerfed
I also like Zeus with the flurry jab
Trying it out with Dio right now
vast junco
also absolutely that dash upgrade is fantastic
shy wave
Weapon wise I like Sword > Spear > Shield/Bow tied > Rail
I don't dislike the rail but I need something like Zeus attack boon with it and/or infinite reload
digital jewel
Hammer can give an Aoe dash attack with 100% dmg on the shield makes it super fun
silk aspen
I had that one run just spammed dash atacks and it was ez win
digital jewel
yeah its great 
silk aspen
Is new trinket any good ?
digital jewel
gives you invuln after being hit
vast junco
i'm not a fan, but they buffed the invulnerability time just now so, there's that i guess
paper peak
but I don't wanna get hit
shy wave
I'm still hoping to one day get my dream run of Artemis crit attack with Zeus duo boon, chance for bolts to hit twice, and either of their legendary boons. I'm really loving the Artemis/Zeus duo atm
silk aspen
Normally i just go whit the butherfly and if i gat some stacks i keep it
fallen folio
Artemis and Athena on spear
shy wave
Haven't done a lot of Athena runs tbh, a lot of people seem to really like her stuff though, any particular reasons?
fallen folio
Dodge is 👌
digital jewel
Athena has always seemed underwhelming to me 
granite pecan
being able to deflect waves and projectiles is so nice
fallen folio
It’s also a personal choice. I dash a lot s lo titan toppler is a must
And I love deflect
quasi sleet
athena does great on the sword, deflect on melee attack is great, and its a HUGE damage increase on the special
granite pecan
the only boon i don’t love for her is the trap damage resistance
quasi sleet
its 90% at epic now, can be pretty nice
vast junco
yeah, seeing an epic trap resist with two normal/rare at best boons alongside it is just
gee, thanks
fallen folio
And with Artemis you can crit and backstab 100% of the time
quasi sleet
lets you dash on lava indefinitely
which is finally an answer for witches deep over lava as sword
digital jewel
yeah I hate Asphodel because of the lava and me always using Butterfly
silk aspen
new dash is easier not to get hit by lava i think
shy wave
I love new dash
digital jewel
yeah I am loving the new dash no akward af pause after every dash
paper peak
It's very smooth
digital jewel
I miss my third dash 
though it is an acomplishment that the changes make it so smooth that it actually doesnt feel that different to have just 2 dashes instead of 3
silk aspen
new dash feels amazing
silk aspen
and the animation to it
fiery pebble
Hold on
Is the extra damage on long range spear hammer upgrade actually still in the game?
vale kite
Unhealthy Fixation (Aphrodite): reduced chance of charm effect
are you sure? it still says 30% for me
silk aspen
check ur version i guess
shy wave
@fiery pebble I'm playing a run with it right now, so I'd assume so
fiery pebble
I see
Ive not seen it in a while
Ive not seen anything other than quick spin, massive spin and extending jab in a while in fact
I only get those 2 upgrades
shy wave
Extending Jab is the increased damage to distant foe one
crisp anvil
Random question, but is it just me or does Extending Jab make the spin attack animation look bigger too? I thought it did but it didn't seem the black outer particle effect actually had a hitbox.
hexed smelt
it's still in
prisma wind
Just read the patch notes... everyone pour one out for Curse of Longing 
shy wave
RIP Curse of Longing
Anyone else really enjoying Artemis' wrath now that it goes through obstacles?
fiery pebble
If that upgrade really exists
I must be super-unlucky
Ive had extending jab in all of my hammer selections over the last 5 runs
But never vicious skewer or javelin throw
hexed smelt
oh, i thought you meant "is extending jab still in"
then no, javelin throw appears to have been cut
fathom hound
Furry Senses Tingling
hexed smelt
what
alpine stratus
aster huh
vale kite
gods when you trade away their boons for better quality ones https://i.imgur.com/kbiEZVf.png
green fiber
holy crap okay im sayin it. Artemis is best girl. just did a run where i kept running into her and good lord she stacks with herself beautifully. flat rate crits, crits on attack, crits on special, crits have a chance to mark AND crits deal extra vs armor. yall ever just lean back and eat a hydra?
shy wave
Artemis is great, yeah
Especially if you manage to get her legendary boon
I love the new Artemis/Zeus duo boon
magic hound
Definitely like having the third area now, got my first Legendary Boon because my runs go longer
shy wave
Feels like third area doesn't give as many boons, feel like I get a lot more poms there
But I like it and the boss is a lot of fun
Also guess my replacement for Aphrodite/Ares is Aphro/Dio duo boon now
grizzled fjord
Artemis's basic boons for her attack and special seem low tier but benefiting massively from her self synergy boons
tribal pier
yo guys, does the pierced butterfly keepsakes's effect remain when switching it out in between floors?
prisma wind
Nope, all keepsakes only apply while equipped
grand crystal
i never use it tho
i personaly rather start with a guaranteed god and then in asphodel switch to distant memory
cuz i use bow and rail
its good its just everything else is up to luck
scarlet hearth
hey.. does exit wounds work with festive fog?
prisma wind
No, because it doesn't stick in enemies
scarlet hearth
oh dang lol
shy wave
@humble pulsar They removed the duo boon for Aphro/Ares today
humble pulsar
Awwww
prisma wind
It's a sad day
humble pulsar
Unfortunately the Dio one isn't nearly as good
Especially in later areas
Unless Poms of Power really buff blight wine damage now
Means I need a new sword strat now
prisma wind
Ha ha same
shy wave
I like Zeus/Artemis for sword
humble pulsar
Well... Maybe Flurry Blade + Dio Aphro might work
shy wave
Dio one works great with spear/shield, does a lot of damage
humble pulsar
Dionysus imo falls off hard in late game because blight wine stacks at 5
humble pulsar
Does it? That makes the build viable
shy wave
Exactly
Bonus points if you can get Dio legendary boon and fight people in fog
They melt
All you need is Aphro dash or whatever to weak things
humble pulsar
Only problem there is I want Aphro cast
The burst damage on that thing is surprisingly strong if you get a blue/purple roll
I prefer taking Athena dash as often as I can, especially now
shy wave
I personally like the fog, especially if you get the "fighting in fog causes you to take less damage" boon alongside positive outlook
To each their own though
humble pulsar
I just prefer the flat damage reduction offered by Aphrodite
shy wave
Why not both? haha
The amount of damage reduct you can stack on that combo is absurd
humble pulsar
Can but I also really don't like applying debuffs via dash
Unless I have to it's something I like to avoid
I prefer to dash away from things killing me than through or around them
shy wave
To each their own again
It's the easiest way to apply weak while also keeping up 8 stacks of poison imo
And weak combined with all your defensive debuffs feels really safe
humble pulsar
I like dashing up to an enemy, popping cast and dashing away
I've gotten decently good with the Aphro cast
I tell you nothing beats the satisfaction that is Melee Rail builds though
Nothing comes close
humble pulsar
9 wins with rail :kappa:
I used the rail before it was cool
I just use what's considered off meta/underpowered all the time in basically every game for whatever reason
hence sombra pfp
humble pulsar
Oh right
That combo is stupid powerful
Get Marked and it's "lol 50% bonus damage on my crits"
amber garden
That sounds wonderful
humble pulsar
"which are all my hits"
prisma wind
Yeah, looks like Freak Accident is the only new Duo
shy wave
To be fair, it's a fun one
humble pulsar
Artemis Zeus is definitely by far the superior combo on the Rail atm. Really doesn't matter what your hammers are. I wouldn't consider going for anything else.
karmic willow
I'm updating the wiki, does anyone with fully leveled Broken Spearpoint tell how it scales? 0.25/0.5/0.75 sec or what?
shy wave
Honestly Artemis/Zeus is one of my personal favorites on pretty much any weapon that isn't bow or shield
humble pulsar
Rail went from being the down and out weapon to super tier now though :feelsgoodman:
shy wave
Anything with attack speed destroys with Artemis/Zeus if you get a bit lucky boon wise
humble pulsar
Imo as long as you get the duo, marked, and jolted you end up winning that run lol
prisma wind
@karmic willow 3rd tier is 1.5 seconds
I don't know what the 1st and 2nd are now, though
shy wave
Basically haha
karmic willow
First is 0.25
prisma wind
Still, even after the buff?
karmic willow
Oh, wait, my bad
shy wave
My only issue with Jolted and Mark is that they don't seem to count towards potentially getting the legendary boon for either of them
karmic willow
Yeah, 0.25 was before buff
humble pulsar
They don't to my knowledge but honestly I don't think you really need the legendaries
shy wave
I mean, both legendary Artemis and legendary Zeus are absolutely absurd
grizzled fjord
Is it a bug that pulverizing blow doesn't work with the dash attack? Didn't it work with the dash attack before?
I was so disappointed when I got it and dashing wallop
zealous garnet
Anybody else experiencing massive frame drops in the later elysium rooms when fighting lots of exalted? Last run I had a lot of dionysus and zeus boons by the end and am playing with max shared misery and it was nigh unplayable with how many frames I was dropping
shy wave
Zeus boons with fast with a lot of attack speed tank my frames, yeah
Especially if you also have Dio and festive fog
zealous garnet
Word, hopefully it's something the devs have looked in to/are addressing. I have had it happen with other combos too since the new update; kind of bummer since I play other far more demanding games on max settings with no frame drops. 
brisk trail
wall slamming lava
humble pulsar
That's pretty funny ngl
fiery pebble
Trust noone, not even molten rock
prisma wind
Your attempts at defeating the molten rock are lavable
livid cargo
@prisma wind how long did that one take you?
prisma wind
About 0.5 seconds after reading it
livid cargo
nice work
prisma wind
A pun is its own reward 
timber topaz
It intrigues me how there's almost always a shade looking into the garden in the house of Hades
Like, with the 'annoyed' expression
prisma wind
It's the spot with the best shade in the House
timber topaz
It feels like they might open a new area of the house, like the lounge with the broker was?
livid cargo
when's the swimming pool though
wet reef
I wonder if we're getting like a hellevator or something to skip a biome
marble sphinx
there are those 2 locked doors still
coarse maple
I should sit and read the patch notes more closely. I was wondering why I was having 'trouble' with the new dash when I realised we don't have a third dash anymore haha.
I'm going to miss it, but the new one feels swanky.
fossil basin
I love the fact that we can now get several Daedelus Hammers ❤
spice patrol
Glad i got to get 1 explosive return shield run in before it was nerfed. That run was hilariously easy
fair quail
@fossil basin wait what?
fossil basin
@fair quail : "You can now find and use more than one Daedalus Hammer per escape attempt"
(latest patch)
foggy flame
Is it actually possible to get three
I always felt like I can get at most one during the first two biomes
And at most one again in Elysium
prisma wind
No, you can only get 2
vale kite
You only get your first hammer in tartarus/asphodel and your second hammer in elysium
rigid grotto
Originally you could only get one except for on like the first run
tawny pollen
how do you beat theseus
bc i did it once but on the second attempt i just dont know when i can hit him i cant tell
vale kite
hit him from behind
tawny pollen
he turns to you fairly fast tho doesnt he?
fiery pebble
Or hit him with any kind of status damage
Like Doom, Sick and Exit wounds
Not if he is in his windup or winddown animations
Or when he is walking to a spot in the arena
vale kite
also you can try and rush him while he casts his god wrath at the start of the 2nd phase
tawny pollen
when i beat him i just spammed zeus boons for lightning everywhere so i couldnt really see the fight
it doesnt feel like a great fight. like it smells like Ornsteign and Smough but doesnt TASTE like ornstein and smough
void vigil
get dash boons and dash across him a lot?
halcyon heron
Is hades like dead cells in that you keep getting more powerful as you die? Or slay the soire where you have a power cap of sorts
red coral
More powerful. It’s a rogue lite in that it has permanent upgrades, not a rogue like
halcyon heron
And will progress made in early access transfer to retail / full release
red coral
I played Dead Cells for the firs time last night so I know a big of it
The hope is yes
void vigil
if all goes well
red coral
They are working very hard to preserve as much of your save data as possible
void vigil
from #hades-faq:
Will I run into horrible bugs or lose progress during Early Access?
We’ll do our best to prevent this. However, there may be times when we make large changes causing aspects of your progress to reset. We’ll try to limit these cases and warn you in advance if we can.
livid cargo
if they do decide to wipe sava data they will let people know in advance
halcyon heron
Alright last question, I prefer steam to epic games. But I'm really interested in early access. Is the epic games purchase tied to me, or can I give my epic games copy to my friend and purchase on steam for myself when it hits retail
prisma wind
Epic Games purchases are tied to your account, just like Steam
prisma wind
It is DRM free, yes. However the only way to receive updates would be to use the Epic Launcher with the account that purchased it
You can launch the game independently of the Epic Launcher, though
quick kestrel
Question: Is there a way to get the little sparkle of info behind the bar counter?
hexed smelt
dash
vale kite
dash through the counter
livid cargo
gotta step on the dash
quick kestrel
Thanks!
alpine stratus
if....and i might not b able to but IFFF i streamed hades in a bit, would anyone care 2 watch 👀
vale lily
Where can I find the updated Road Map?
hexed smelt
click the "days to next update" sign
vale lily
Thank you!
lethal lark
@tawny pollen i was dashing like mad and spamming the bow, thats how i beat him
radiant tangle
Styxbot broke again, and won't give the thumbs up reaction
paper peak
So are we thinking that biome 4 is going to be the Isles of the Blessed
quasi sleet
what do you guys think the update next month will be? new god?
misty python
can I access old "tab" info? I could see all the bonuses description at the same time which was more helpful than hovering each one of them
prisma wind
Bugs are reported in-game using the F10 key
sinful yew
thanks
But damn
About to finish elysium with 60 heat
And I suddenly can't progress -.-
Enemies won't spawn
hexed smelt
did you update your game?
quasi sleet
brutal, using the sword?
happened to me twice in a row pre-patch but it was supposedly fixed, sadly its just run over
sinful yew
Ye
amber garden
Zag guessing who he is going to fight at the end of the first floor is one of my favorite things right now.
hexed smelt
i laughed so hard the first time i got that, because he got it wrong
amber garden
Yeah same!
hexed smelt
"ooh, i bet it's alecto" [meg appears] "mm, not quite."
vale drift
Glad you're enjoying that! A lot of those little narrative things come from player experiences. It's fun having a character who can react pretty specifically to what's happening in the gameplay. Found myself playing the guessing game as I played, figured Zag would be wondering the same thing.
amber garden
Makes perfect sense to me.
hexed smelt
i always play the guessing game except now i get to bet against zag :'D
alpine stratus
same hfjgjg
fiery pebble
I cant wait for the patch where the Fury fight can be replaced by Bouldy
alpine stratus
😱
alpine stratus
...
!
fiery pebble
I can just imagine 2 broken spear points lying in front of bouldy
And him rolling over them
To give himself angry eyes
Like this
sudden pike
What if Hades implemented a run summary screen similar to the one in Slay the Spire? Where it shows your ending build, the path you took, and the choices you made along the way (including what you didnt pick)
prisma wind
I would be very happy if they did
sudden pike
Also, is there a reason I cant post in the feedback channel?
Just saw the pin there nvm
midnight hatch
see the pinned posts in that channel for directions
sinful yew
Whats your heat record?
sinful yew
Nice
grave crypt
I did 60 heat this patch, I think I'll have a 120 in the bag by the end of this week
A fun challenge to be certain!
Have you done any with heat yet @sinful yew ?
sinful yew
Well. Idk if you saw it
But I was just about to finish a 60 heat run
Until the game bugged
grave crypt
Ah yea
sinful yew
feelsbad
grave crypt
I have lost a 120 one because of windows update lmao
Some people have done 180 last patch
I did not have the patience to attempt that one yet ;p
Maybe one day
sinful yew
I feel like the only possible way to do high heat runs like that is with stygian
grave crypt
The sword?
sinful yew
Yea
grave crypt
It's still the weakest weapon imo ;D
I did 120 with every weapon, but struggled the most with sword
I love how opinions differ so much
About weapons
some people swear by sword, and others say its the weakest
sinful yew
You know how you can get two deadelie when you reach last level?
With stygian, you can combine chop with permacrit
If you get some good attack modifiers, you easily deal 700+ every hit
And yea
The varying preferences sure is a product of this masterpiece
Incredible game
If not blade, what do you reckon to be the strongest @grave crypt ?
grave crypt
I feel by design shield and bow are the best for high heat runs
Because they can deal damage while being relatively safe
Speed and damage don't really matter as much as being able to minimize risk as much as possible
Then again, killing stuff fast leaves less time to make mistakes
It's a fickle balance
solid canopy
i feel like spear is the weakest imo
sinful yew
I would put rail aside it as the weakest
solid canopy
if you get good boons and hammer upgrades it's p strong
grave crypt
Rail is strong and terrible at the same time
sinful yew
Uness there is some crazy build for it
grave crypt
Shotgun dino is ❤
solid canopy
but w spear i feel like whatever i get it's still weak
grave crypt
I would agree on spear
sinful yew
Kind of. No real dmg modifiers
grave crypt
It feels like it doesn't know what it wants to be
sinful yew
Regarding the bow
I love using it, but for a lot of dps, the Q is required
While in the attack animation, you're vulnerable
solid canopy
Q?
sinful yew
The special
sinful yew
Yea.
because you generally are xD
Less safe distances, and little way of averting attacks
solid canopy
it's pretty cool how you can fully stack sick on an enemy with one bow special though hehe
if you get right up in their face
sinful yew
Is sick really that good?
solid canopy
idk, i think it's fun but it's probably up to preference
sinful yew
It stacks up to 5 times rght?
solid canopy
should we be talking about this in #h1-builds-and-combat ? haha
latent terrace
hi, will there be any price jump after the game leaves early access?
is the ~$10 price on the epic game store now the final price?
grave crypt
I am in no way affiliated with SG, but judging by their past games I expect it to be between 15-25
grave crypt
So 20$, there you go!
prisma wind
The point is that whatever it costs now should be the same as it costs at release and also when it comes to other platforms
hexed smelt
i mean, that link is 1) not from someone from sgg 2) from december
prisma wind
It's pinned in this channel
latent terrace
but the price in epic game store is almost half that now
so i am confused
i've read that earlier what you linked just now
alpine stratus
i assume that link is a repost of a sgg faq
but as sparrow said- from december, things could change
prisma wind
If the price is different it's because Epic didn't have regional pricing at the time of launch
latent terrace
so what you are saying is that the price i can get now is the lowest it will be till some time after launch
yes
?
grave crypt
I would assume so, but I would recommend getting it now either way, there is a lot of content to play through, and seeing it evolve over the patches is a lot of fun
But don't quote me on prices, I don't keep track
latent terrace
having to install another launcher is a pain tho ;__;
- i cant login to my account
im waiting for two factor verification code for 40 min already
fiery pebble
Oh are we talking weapons and how good they are?
Spear is interesting in that you need to get one of two specific hammer upgrades or its bad
But if you do, its really good
ivory tide
Man, I've loved everything in the game this far, but my first Elysium run wasn't a great experience. Breezed through everything with 6 Death Defiances left to spare at the end. I have about 5000 Darkness and that made me very very strong indeed. It's a bit strange it's up to me to build a suitable challenge with Pact of Punishment as I have absolutely no clue where I should set it to have a balanced experience
Already started a new save file, to not be as overpowered, but just wondering what the progression in the final version of the game will be and how it will stop me from farming Darkness and letting myself off maybe a bit too easy.
ivory tide
hahah : D That worries me more, because it doesn't take that long to farm enough to be 10x as powerful as in a fresh file.
is there still something left to spend it on?
hexed smelt
which reminds me, that's another page that'll need a quick update...
prisma wind
Yeah, they made it a Darkness sink so that people could stop complaining about having too much Darkness 
I recently got my 6th Fated Authority... 20k to get my 7th 
hexed smelt
i'm so close to being able to get my fourth reroll
hexed smelt
eh, i got keys coming out of places the sun don't shine
prisma wind
I've been floating at a pretty happy 40-50 keys constantly. Spend some on Troves, then rebuild the stash
brisk trail
Quick question: since Epic has Achievements, Cloud Saves and Playtime features on its roadmap, can we say that we can earn the achievements we already completed on our current save retroactively? Or must we start a new game after they activate achievements?
livid cargo
hrm
brisk trail
And also when did that change to limit dash to 2 happen? I had loved madly dashing all around the map... /:
acoustic wave
I beat elysium in 25 mins with stygian blade!
alpine stratus
nice!!!
forest hollow
ah god damn. hundreds of hours of play from first release, formatted my PC, didn't realise its only local saves
RIP progress
solid canopy
that's an oof
forest hollow
my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined - i'll ninja my friends save i think 😂
solid canopy
i wonder if saves can carry over if (hopefully when) hades comes out on steam
forest hollow
hope so, wouldn't wish that heart stopping moment on anyone lol
solid canopy
i don't wanna start from scratch when the full game comes out Y ^ Y
hexed smelt
i mean, steam has cloud saves
solid canopy
i mean, carry over from epic haha
amber garden
Hoooo boy does the game lag with the impulse debuff
alpine silo
I think wrath is kind of useless. The meter reset itself after every encounter... Am I missing something? Or this really is how it supposed to work?
livid cargo
@alpine silo meant to be used to help deal with drawn-out fights
pearl lance
is anyone else experiencing dialogue that refers to asphodel when you are in Elysium?
prisma wind
I've had one when leaving the Hydra's fight, but other than that, no. If you encounter dialog that feels out of place, please report it in-game with F10 and describe what the dialog is/why it doesn't fit the situation
pearl lance
ah thanks! i was trying to figure out where i reported bugs.
amber garden
Wrath tends to be more useful in later chambers.
I wouldn't pick it up early unless you get one you really love.
quasi sleet
thankfully it doesn't take too long to get most of the mirror, maybe 30 runs to get all but the epic boon and fated
spice patrol
I tend to pick up zeus wrath if I've already got a basic attack / basic attack not available. Love that wrath
Does so much dmg, and ignores block which is important in elysium
shell rain
I recently got fed up with Windows and switched to linux again full time. I gather that early access is only through Epic launcher?
prisma wind
Correct
shell rain
OK, thanks. Full release it is, then!
scarlet hearth
where do the screenshots go when i press the screenshot button?
prisma wind
Documents\Saved Games\Hades\Screenshots
scarlet hearth
ty!
scarlet hearth
on that note, what determines wrath gauge charge?
prisma wind
Damage dealt and damage received
dense sail
and whatever other passives you may acquire that specify differently
scarlet hearth
ahhhhh okay that makes sense
for some reason i thought it was number of hits
thank you!
prisma wind
They recently scaled back wrath gain for high damage, not sure how much though. It used to be that if you had an OP build you could charge your Wrath gauge in seconds
By OP I mean 500-1000+ per hit reliably
scarlet hearth
yeah i remember those times... was trying to replicate a build i cleared with before that spammed cast and wrath lol
probably a good change tho
granite tangle
After playing about 10 runs, with all the proposed tech fixes applied, I can confidently say that the game's framerate gets real dire post-patch
Every run has been plagued by single digit framerates once things get a little hectic, which is pretty crazy given that it shouldn't be chugging on my 1070. I also feel like once it starts dipping real low, it begins plaguing other runs. I'm not tech savvy, but something must be getting broken by certain combinations of things (Rail+Chain Lightning+Explosive Rounds) to the point where the game would chug even while on one of those post-game "and then Zagreus died in some way" end cards with the narrator
Other than that big hiccup, this patch is fun as heck.
The trading mechanic where you can get heroics is really nice as it doesn't force you stick to a build from the very beginning if you find that you're been offered other boons more conducive to different paths
jaunty hazel
welp it`s just me or someone else can hear some noises at 5:07 and 5:15 ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwaxTo2cy0w
prisma wind
Think it's just you, didn't notice anything out of the ordinary
dense mountain
finished my first run! https://i.imgur.com/VBAhdwR.png
prisma wind
Congrats
dense mountain
is 22 runs from begin to theseus fast or would that be pretty average?
i can't help but feel like i ought to have had more of the mirror unlocked
prisma wind
Pretty fast, but I haven't done a fresh save myself since the new patch
dense mountain
neato
little inlet
i hope they add the new songs to the channel soon
olive jungle
@dense mountain with the current pace of the narrative, i'd say 22 runs is probably quite fast, at least compared to how story events are spaced out
dense mountain
yeah i have noticed some hall dialogue felt a little out of order
the first time i beat meg i also beat the hydra so i assume that was a big part of it though
prisma wind
If you notice dialog that appears out of place, even if it's due to a fast pace, you should report it with F10 in game. It helps the devs fine tune the narrative
dense mountain
yeah unfortunately i didn't know that was something i could do until after everything i've seen out-of-place
of course i'll slam that f10 if i see anything like that again
prisma wind
Even if you can remember general details, you can still send a report and just provide the details that you remember 👍
swift sequoia
am so sad now. i finally beated the bone hydra. and exactly after my game crashed and i lost all my progress on that run even the skull
am literally crying so much
solid canopy
i updated my graphics driver, it basically stopped all my fps drop issues
it might help anyone who has the same issue
fossil basin
Soooooo never, EVER take a Chaos boon which makes you take damage when you dash
timid ferry
just played the game after a month
good job devs
it made me smile 😃
elysium looks awesome
worldly rivet
hey as anyone ever taken the poseidon treasure boon only to have it not drop anything?
void vigil
youre 100% sure its sunken treasure, not ocean's bounty?
if so, you can report it as a bug by pressing F10 ingame
worldly rivet
hmmm guess i'm not sure, i was watching a friend play and it went by very quickly. i know i at least saw the obols/darkness/health symbols but those show up in the ocean's bounty description too iirc
it was taking a boon after the boat chamber, we assumed that it might've had issues spawning there for whatever reason
i'll just look out for it next time
void vigil
ah, i see
if youre still watching, do you have a screenshot of the boon?
im just curious now honestly lol
fossil basin
Gods, most fun run ever. Adamant Rail + Heavy Slug (Single shot with 80 base damage - Daedalus Hammer) + Enshrouded Strike (Attacks deal +35% damage - Chaos boon) + Tempest Strike (Your Attack deals more damage and knocks foes away: Attack Damage + 76% (Poseidon, Epic boon)).
I deal 169 damage on non-armored enemies
severe sparrow
Hey boys, I had to reset my pc and make a backup, but didn't know save files of most games were located in documents and not their "main" directories so I lost mine. Would anyone mind sending me their save file please?
brisk trail
Did they remove dash attack dmg bonus from the mirror? Now I only see it rarely as a boon
void vigil
yes, its not in the game anymore
i dont remember what it was replaced by.. boiling blood, i think?
mirror dash attack was removed from the mirror in the same update boiling blood was added
from the chaos update:
- Quick Temper: removed from the game (invested Darkness will be refunded); replaced with...
Boiling Blood (NEW!): gives dmg. bonus after hitting foes with Cast
brisk trail
Oh, I had stopped playing after the first update since I had lost all my saves. This new state of the game seems better save for some things I miss, but somehow it also felt a bit easier... I almost managed the kill the other Elysium boss after killing minotaur in my 7th attempt or so... Back then I couldn't get past Hydra that easily.
void vigil
yeah a lot of things have changed
aspho as a whole got a bit easier because of the addition of elysium
brisk trail
Yeah, makes sense. And did they remove the moving levels completely? I never saw them in this update (they were a bit pain in the arse anyway ^^)
hexed smelt
moving levels?
void vigil
the boat? no, its still in the game
brisk trail
In Asphodel, sometimes the ground would be moving towards the end of the level while you needed to beat the mobs. They seemed a bit more difficult to me, but I'm not sure exactly why.
void vigil
by avoiding the rooms with a little skull on the bottom of the reward and the sparkles you avoid seeing the boat
it could also be the megagorgon, so theres a chance you wont see it even if you dont avoid them
but the difficulty of the boat has been reduced significantly as well
brisk trail
Oh. And about that, the skull symbol used to only mean that a mini-boss would be in that level. But now I go to those and see that they're normal levels like half the time, but maybe a bit higher rewards (20 darkness instead of 10). So that symbol means something else now?
hexed smelt
that usually only happens to me if i've already encountered at least one miniboss room in the zone already
spring cipher
@severe sparrow umm when I get home I'll dm you my save file if you want
It's got enough darkness to max most of the mirror as well as 280 heat
severe sparrow
Would be lovely, thank you
severe sparrow
I really couldnt bother farming all of the stuff again
spring cipher
I feel that
I should probably max all my keep sakes
And work on heat runs
But I'm lazy
red parcel
i want to ask what gives you second and next ones ambrosia
void vigil
just extra dialogue
gleaming crane
Just had Zag say "Please be Meg?" when entering the Tartarus boss room and it's so good. Especially since I was thinking the same thing becase I got the explosive attack on Rail and wanted a ton of enemies to blow up 
half surge
Hahaha yeah I love that line
brisk trail
I do. It's mostly very favorable imo, but the mouse is waaaay better for Dionysus' cast and the Rail's special
Because the current aim assist leaves a lot to be desired, I feel
digital garnet
I use a controller; its the first SGG game ive played as a controller and I love it
solid canopy
i always prefer a controller for non-fps games
or anything that involves hard aiming haha
hollow rock
I downloaded Hades onto the wrong drive and Epic doesn’t seem to have the option to have multiple libraries like steam does, so I made a copy of the game folder, uninstalled and reinstalled onto the correct drive... and I completely forgot the saves are not in the game folder 😢
muted dagger
hollow rock
I almost finished the mirror of night too... 😭
green fiber
it would seem that Kronos himself has cause to aid Lord Hades in his efforts against you. Do not falter.
@game devs do not make that a game mechanic. do not. DO NOT.
green fiber
okay so is anyone else like maining the M16 at this point?
hexed smelt
m16?
hexed smelt
oh, the rail
green fiber
look its a machine gun with a grenade attatch, its an m16 yeah?
hexed smelt
it's good but i don't really 'main' it as such
bold of you to assume i know anything about guns, mate ;P
green fiber
fair enough
this is probably a preference thing but the combo ranged damage + AoE ranged attack does this thing have a downside?
like the only reason i switch off is for the extra darkness
hexed smelt
low base damage, the reload mechanic can screw you over, the special is difficult to properly aim on a controller
flat vapor
some people don't like for the low base damage, and sometimes i find the fact the regular attack doesn't stun enemies annoying
flat vapor
^
fiery pebble
Tbh
Thats kinda true for all weapons except bow
And Shield I guess
Though I would be lying if I didnt say that both of the bull rush upgrades make the run so much more fun
flat vapor
i would personally say that rail needs it
fiery pebble
Sword kinda needs one good upgrade, but it has a couple
Spear is pretty underwhelming without exactly Quick Spin
hexed smelt
okay, idiot question time, how do you open the codex on keyboard
fiery pebble
And Rail is kinda like sword
flat vapor
c @hexed smelt
hexed smelt
i can't be bothered to plug in my controller for the sake of one screenshot
flat vapor
holding down c is the default, i believe
hexed smelt
yep, got it
fiery pebble
The only weapon where I would say it doesnt really have much of a downside is exactly the bow
You have to stop to charge and shoot, but its really quick and from quite far away
flat vapor
shield is also up there, but i have problems with trying to attack too soon after a rush and having zag just stand still instead
fiery pebble
Yeah thats fair
coarse maple
I just realised most of the mods have cow/bull related names. 
radiant tangle
They change around their nicknames every time a patch rolls around
coarse maple
That's amazing. I'm going to keep an eye on that for next time.
signal spoke
I preferred thighonysus
coarse maple
omg
green fiber
Dionasty warriors more like
green fiber
yall are awful with these puns. despicable. low down buncha punks
i believe ill come here more often
olive jungle
and who could forget the house of χάος
by Disney™
comparatively, my MDK username was disappointing, i went for low-hanging fruit that time
tulip lava
turns out my internet name is highly compatible with hades puns
willow swallow
Does the game record hours played anywhere?
olive jungle
Not currently, no
hexed smelt
i miss my chaos name
bc it's like.... the only one i got remotely creative for
(in my defense "sparrow" is a bit harder to shove into a pun)
coarse maple
what was your chaos name?
green fiber
low hanging fruit??? tantalos??? anybody?
hexed smelt
deltarune had just come out, the world revolving, chaos, CHAOS, hades-ify it and you get "the underworld revolving"
coarse maple
haha
green fiber
hah!!! yes!!!
halcyon heron
From a fresh game, how many hours of gameplay you think there is to defeat minotaur and his buddy?
green fiber
i mean one would assume he may be added later
working theory: Hades will be continually delayed because the development offices are suffering the constant effects of slighting a god (in a dual boon room) for offending the deities that havent been added yet.
olive jungle
@halcyon heron uhhh idk man it really depends on how much time you invest, for example, in story stuff...maybe 15-20???
people are also at wildly varying skill levels, someone beat the minotaur in ~20 runs recently but when i first started playing it took me 60 runs to beat the hydra
and the user friendliness of the game is always changing
sullen nebula
I think Hydra was harder earlier
olive anchor
hexed smelt
i know chaos got tweaked so it's a little more visually screwy, which i love
olive jungle
Probably! They're always getting nicer
hexed smelt
yeah, the area sort of gets fish-eye warped around the edges of the screen now and there's an inverted-colour flash when you take the boon
pastel nacelle
pick shield
first boon is epic +73% damage and knockback from poseidon
second is +92% damage from wall slams from poseidon
holy hell thanks uncle
flat vapor
you can get more than one hammer now, they changed it this update
prisma wind
Is that before the Hydra, zzt? Or after?
foggy flame
before the hydra, it's chamber 26 now
prisma wind
Then I'd be inclined to say that no, that shouldn't happen. 2nd hammer is supposed to be Elysium only, as far as I know
I'd report it, if you haven't already
spice patrol
So what artifact thing do y'all bring with you?
prisma wind
Typically a god keepsake to start, then switch god keepsake in Asphodel, and then depending on how the run is going either a third god keepsake for Elysium or else something like Skull Earring or Broken Spearpoint
Sometimes I'll mix things up and do Pierced Butterfly runs, or Cosmic Egg, or Bone Hourglass
spice patrol
Yeah, I usually run the god ones too, but sometimes do the +dmg one for perfect clear encounters
mystic basin
Over the last few days I've been sticking to the pierced butterfly
olive jungle
I like using broken spearpoint in elysium, it makes up in a small way for me never taking athena boons
mystic basin
I wasn't a fan of athena's boons until this patch
the old titan toppler felt so clunky to use, it messed me up far more than it helped
totally worth swinging by an athena room at least once now
prisma wind
Athena is so strong, though, even before the patch
Especially in combination with best girl Artemis
mystic basin
Maybe I was just trash at working her buffs into my playstyle
spice patrol
Athena was one of my favourites when the game first launched, but I've switched to zeus / artemis favoured now
prisma wind
Fair enough, everyone plays the game in their own way
spice patrol
Rail with basic artemis boon is bonkers
mystic basin
What's the general consensus on ares boons?
spice patrol
I've never been a fan since I like high atk speed runs. like spear and rail
prisma wind
They're much more useful now, in my opinion, with the change to primarily additive damage
spice patrol
Did they get decently buffed in this patch?
prisma wind
Aphro-Ares was an OP combo until they nerfed (removed) the Duo
mystic basin
I haven't really given them a shot yet in this patch after steering clear as much as I could before
prisma wind
All the gods feel much more balanced in comparison to each other now with the damage change
That said, my god(s) of choice vary depending on the weapon
outer flare
these character designs are really cool
outer flare
artemis' lil owls
little inlet
i wish artemis had a boon that gives you owl familiars
prisma wind
They're quail. Athena has the owl
round herald
Stupid question but are the weapons in the game real things from mythology?
olive jungle
Nope
Pretty sure like, all of them are made up
The Aegis has some basis in myth
though what exactly it was is in question
round herald
Because coronacht is such a cool name
olive jungle
And besides, I think Athena is currently wielding that Aegis, with Zag's version being a...prototype?
it is!
it does actually mean something like "heart-seeker" - strung together from greek roots
round herald
Oooh thats cool af
olive jungle
"adamant" is also, believe it or not, a material from greek myth
so while the "adamant rail" isn't straight up a real mythological weapon, the material did originate in greek myth
olive jungle
Yeah that's what I mean
fiery pebble
The other ones are made up however
olive jungle
Athena says she's holding The Aegis
fiery pebble
Yup
olive jungle
the one zag uses is an early version
fiery pebble
A prototype
olive jungle
supposedly.
olive jungle
Hades is also signified with a bident/two-pointed spear, so again, varatha is a made-up prototype of a real mythological symbol
fiery pebble
Yup, each elder god got a weapon
The Sword and Bow are a bit odd
As Hera wasnt really ever depicted with a sword, and Poseidon was more of a Trident than a sword kind of guy
And obviously Hestia did not have an AK-47
olive jungle
yeah, while the shield, spear, and gun have some tenuous connection to myth at least, the sword and bow are invented pretty much whole cloth
hexed smelt
it's zag's sword now
round herald
They're the coolest weapons imo though
olive jungle
i love the bow, bow for life
though i did have a really fun run with the gun today
didn't manage to get a zeus attack boon which would've blown things out of the water
but it still went better than it had any right to
hexed smelt
artemis attack + heavy slug was actually pretty amazing
round herald
I like that we can get a second hammer now
fiery pebble
Yknow what I want
round herald
Artemis is best girl, what a babe amirite
fiery pebble
For Zagreus to just toss aside his current weapon and start smashing people with a hammer
round herald
Can he duel-wield them if he picks up another
sinful yew
Holy frick this game is good
Having more fun with an unfinished game than most other games
astral lagoon
yeah same lmaooo
livid cargo
Sgg games are the good quality
alpine stratus
i forget its an 'unfinished' game it feels more like picking up the next episode of a show hgfhfj
its gonna be so weird to see people experience it all at once
livid cargo
Everybody Hates Zagreus? 
alpine stratus
Hades Hate-ees Zagreus
livid cargo
Also yay next major update 30 days away
alpine stratus
it feels so fast now in comparison
livid cargo
Yeh
What if next update is the fan update where they take memes from #fan-works and put them in the game
alpine stratus
theyre sold as posters for zag's walls
alpine stratus
hjgvhjfjfjfj
vale kite
no patch notes because "we dont talk about that one"
alpine stratus
patch notes: were writing these from in line at the house of hades cuz we died
livid cargo
What if we are the final boss
Last biome is just a reperesentation of the discord server
alpine stratus
the final boss is confronting yourself and the only way to win is by making positive change in your life. hades a truly life altering game
livid cargo
Initially you cant damage evil bouldy and so u have to team up with sisy and then you win the day
alpine stratus
perfect
rapid sparrow
Guys, how do you update epic games?
I want to play the new update but I don't know where or how to update it manually.
solid canopy
can't you do it from the launcher?
livid cargo
You have the epic launcher open, right?
gleaming crane
It should automatically update if you open the launcher.
rapid sparrow
its not updating
and when I open hades it says that I should update my launcher to play the most recent version
gleaming crane
Close the launcher, then launch it again.
(and I'm not talking about running it in the background, but actually closing it)
cyan copper
make sure ur logged into the right account
ivory fractal
Try checking the Epich launcher's Downloads tab.
rapid sparrow
nothing on the downloads tab
Im just gonna reinstall it
I am on the right account
torn owl
I want a taunt button.
astral lagoon
maybe the real hades was the friends we made along the way
fiery pebble
So Achilles is the true Ruler of the Underworld?
flat vapor
athena boons have the best color scheme don't @ me 😌
green fiber
artemis is a big dork dont @ me
woeful mason
Why cant I leave feedback?
void vigil
read the pins in the feedback channel please!
woeful mason
I'm not sure if what I encountered was a bug. It also also last night so Im not in the game in which it happened
stone mist
Best colors are Zeus and Poseidon together
torn pond
Hm... I got some feedbacks on bugs to say, someone can tell me why I cant post in hades-feedback?
prisma wind
That said, if you have bugs to report it should be done in-game with F10, not in the feedback channel
tulip lava
osp's talking about hades on stream literally right this second
alpine stratus
omg
prisma wind
OSP?
alpine stratus
whats the news
tulip lava
aaaand it's passed
alpine stratus
overly sarcastic productions
tulip lava
red doesn't know blue knows
alpine stratus
?
alpine stratus
ohhh
tulip lava
assassin's creed elysium is pretty too
solid elysium
the dialogue writing is still painfully mediocre
gleaming crane
"Not all games need to be all action. The rest of us gamers play these games for the story and gameplay. Assassin's Creed is a good franchise because they put passion in the games."
Damn, without the sarcasm, this would fit the SGG games quite well 
fiery pebble
But ... arent Action and Gameplay basically the same thing?
gleaming crane
Not necessarily. Giving ambrosia to characters is part of the gameplay in Hades. I've seen better action though
tulip lava
I think that quote means in the context of AC
tulip lava
But maybe they meant action as in cool explosions and fighting, gameplay as skill and mechanical mastery
olive jungle
If we're gonna talk AC please take it to #off-topic-discussion !
flat vapor
ok i haven't been able to find how to turn on the chamber number in the top right corner
i see it in other people's screenshots but i haven't found the button yet
mortal tundra
I think the boon info button brings up chamber #
prisma wind
With the new boon UI being a toggle, though, I wish that the Chamber Counter could be a toggled option like the timer to just have it permanently on screen. It was fine before just tapping the boon button to see your chamber, but it's less convenient now
olive jungle
yeah...i had the same feeling tbh
hexed smelt
it'd certainly help with picking items in elysium
prisma wind
I should feedback that, if it isn't already in there
hexed smelt
"for the next 6 encounters...... which one am i in?? is that going to take me to the boss or not??"
lunar ocean
has anyone else had issues in the megamedusa room where the smashy boy's shadow doesnt turn white before falling
happened to me twice since beefy
update
minor pecan
F10 submit it!
quasi sleet
coulda sworn it happened to me once but I assumed I was just spacing out, thanks for making me think im not crazy
pliant hound
Can we have the option to turn wrath abilities off? Most of them suck, and I'd prefer getting a boon at the start over ever using a wrath ability.
void vigil
most of them suck?
i guess its a matter of opinion but theyve saved me from dying very often
but hey, its a roguelite, the whole point is that you dont always get what you want
pliant hound
I just don't find them necessary, or even useful. I found them game more fun without them.
void vigil
if i get a wrath i dont like playing with, ill just take something else
or you can take it and not use it
i dont use my special a lot, so if there are no boons i want ill take the special one
gleaming crane
Not useful? With Athena's Wrath, you can simply spam attack on the final boss and wreck his ass. Artemis's wrath packs quite the punch, same for Zeus, Dionysus can help you get the damage boost from multiple curses, and Ares and Poseidon, while not doing much damage, grant you invulnerability and, for Poseidon, a fun slippy slide.
brisk trail
well.. Wrath has mostly this issue... they delay powerspike
meanwhile they do provide nice utility and invulnerability... it's not nearly as good as quality tier 2 boon for example
sometimes you would want to choose certain boons instead of legendary or even duo boons
best example is easily the Hunter Mark
other include Premium Vintage, Ocean Bounty, Dire Misfortune, Sweet Surrender, Different League...
since wrath was nerfed on higher damage output it basically makes it so that you can't get that much value anymore, though for good reasons
ironically... making Aphrodite wrath one of the most valuable wraths
marble sphinx
wraths still need another coat of paint since they feel more like b-tier utility abilities than a limit break type thing
some of them are definitely useful, but generally only the ones that provide invuln are super good
i honestly think some of it is just that the feedback/visuals on most of the wraths is a bit underwhelming
candid obsidian
Hello guys, I really love the feedback section of this Discord, I was wondering do you know how I can create the same for my Discord? I mean the fact that every message you type in the channel, immediately gets reactions buttons? Can someone help me?
olive jungle
The auto-reactions are done by a bot, our dear Styxbot
You can find plenty of discord bot tutorials online!
hexed smelt
and occasionally by the mods, when styxbot decides to nap
olive jungle
Essentially, bots are scripts that you give channel permissions to, and then you allow them to run on a machine somewhere. As long as the machine is turned on and logged in, the bot will be active.
radiant tangle
Someone: *Makes a new post in the feedback channel*
Styxbot: I sleep
Someone: *Uses the word freeze in a perfectly innocuous sentence*
Styxbot:
See now I look like a fool because it didn't do it this time
vale lily
Is the Boom-Tree available graphically anywhere? I know the WIKI has a table with the details, but I would probably like to see them displayed as a traditional skill tree
hexed smelt
nobody's made a diagram so far as i've seen
jagged bloom
do you think i'll be missing out if i buy the game after all updates are out?
winter orbit
That depends on your personal preference. I've never done early access before but I've thoroughly enjoyed participating in Hades'. With each major update you get to see new stuff added and the game improving, and provide feedback for any changes. That's pretty satisfying to me. That being said, I'm a bit worried that once the full game is out, I'll be a bit burned out by all this playing I've done already. If you're interesting in trying out the game early on and helping shape the final product, and don't mind running into some minor issues or unbalanced elements along the way, I think early access is worth it. But if you just wanna play the complete well-balanced game that's more bug free, I'd just wait.
jagged bloom
oh ok, thanks
fiery pebble
You miss out on some one-of meta-gags, and of course the process of contributing to the games changes
Plus any upgrades or quirks that get patched out or changed
hexed smelt
pour one out for the people who will never experience the ongoing underworld renovations running gag
vale kite
theyre gonna incorporate that into the final story somehow 
amber garden
Ongoing renovations is powerfully good.
I also enjoy that nobody ever knows what time of day it is.
ruby oar
unkempt sleet
Both lines of dialog are active, and since most people won't have two consecutive wins they won't trigger right away, so the gag is still running
vast junco
i'm also gonna miss classic events such as [zagreus gets bitten by an underworld beetle and dies] or [zagreus steps on some extremely toxic fungus, and dies]
hexed smelt
yeah but the whole point of the joke is that zag can't get out of the underworld yet because the game's not done
once the game is done, there are presumably no longer ongoing renovations keeping him stuck inside
amber garden
I cracked up pretty hard at fungus
I also recently had Hades chastise me because the hydra had a family and I just lost it.
prisma wind
That was a great line
hexed smelt
i haven't gotten that one yet ;n;
prisma wind
Whoops. Maybe we should be spoiler tagging dialog lines?
hexed smelt
nah, not unless it's like. Real Spoilers.
it's more a ;n; of "hades keeps saying the same things over and over why won't he give me the Funny Lines"
amber garden
What a jerk that Hades is
burnt pond
I wish Achilles was my dad and not Hades 
burnt pond
Well I could meet him while I was alive, but he wouldn't be y'know.