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Patch notes this beefy
Well DAMN I totally forgot the beefy one was due this month
Aaaaand patch notes are online ๐
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damn thats a Chunky update
All have a nice plays!
UPDATIIING, LET'S BREAK THOSE SERVERS
a 1000 new voice lines breh
Just glad I'm finally somewhere with a good connection
new dash mechanic breh
THE TIME HAS COME
Mods! Change your names please!
MINE WONT DOWNLOAD
ha
- Added Heroic rarity level for Boons, greater than Epic (note: used with 'Exchange' Boons)
GET REKT
on one hand, update
on the other, all my progress is on my laptop, because epic has no way of copying progress across devices
WOOO!!
'Exchange boons?'
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iT'S HERE!
Nice!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo
Hey @lean ferry though there's no cloud saves, the file can be transferred manually! Hope that helps. ๐
Oh wait
OOOOO
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Are our saves getting wiped?
Noooo
No someone started the game on a different machine
@chilly stump that works? I figured it would break the save file or something, in order to prevent people from just cheating and downloading someone's overfarmed files
They nerfed Spear special
Nope! If you do experience a save wipe, please report it.
It might be bad now
MURDER BOAT GOT A NERF. HECK YES.
No new olympians this update?
@lean ferry It does indeed work! I believe past instances and steps can be found in tech-support.
LOL "The Beefy Update"
I think there is
Im gonna be so nettled
time to play
Will continue to swinga ma sword around in Mordhau while the update downloads ๐
If Spear Special is actually bad
69% ๐
Oh god the voice lines
Why do all the fun things have to get nerfed
THE VOICE LINES
listen we all knew vicious skewer was going to get nerfed
Ohhhh it's launching
DOUBLE HAMMER BABY
...how are they gonna change the dash?, what was wrong with it?
i've gotta admit, i did NOT think double hammer was going to be a thing
If they just removed the remaining damage up not related to crit
That would be better
mmm 79%
i'm at 44% ;3;
Lets see then
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kicks down door. DID SOMEONE SAY BEEF
omg i love theseus' voice
ohhh the dash is nice
let the first run commence!
Real smooth
Beef
New dash is weird
also there's a bug
i'm jealous of everybody who has already downloaded
Its a bit more floaty
IT IS HERE
Yo, the tab menu is different
(me pounding fists on table) BEEF BEEF BEEF BEEF
f10 it, mohammed
can't save progress AHHHH :c
I wanna be a cowboy baby
I already sent in a report @hexed smelt
haha
oh god belgo
beefy boys
Belgo ur avatar never disappoints
Backstab doesnt work on specials anymore?
Honestly, the thing I love about the new dash is the lack of downtime afterwards. Leaves you less open
the update is out on the night of my finals... press F gaymers
i can't wait to check it out though!!! so hyped!!
dash is gonna take some getting used to
@slender monolith There are many possible fixes listed in #hades-tech-fixes-old
Certainly
68% ;3;
But Im confused about the backstab change
oof that happened to me when p5 came out right before my senior thesis was due
Hey ya'll!! Let's drag any patch discussion that isn't from advertised bits into spoilers chat please!
good luck with finals!
Y thank you Morgan
Patch notes word highlighting got a little out of sync around
+ Skelly's unlockables now become available after clearing Elysium (if you haven't revealed them yet)
I wonder if cloud is eventually going to be implemented
Ooh, we have Theseus
I hope they slowly change another aspect of him every single patch until every single part has been replaced with something else
cutier, if that strikethrough is a spoiler, please either delete it, spoiler tag it, or put it in #h1-story-discussion
did they change the UI ?
ANYWAY my update is done downloading so ๐จ
Thanks @pearl kite
can someone send a pic of the Ui only ?
Huh. Some of the heat values went up, I think
hmmmm
backstab is bug ?
whats the new dash change
Makes it more fluid
You kinda slide?
On the upside, though, you don't have to recover
vague and interesting
You played enter the gungeon?
i liked it the old way but i also havent played in months
Oh and new Athena dash is really really nice
nope
It's a little reminiscent of how you can roll
they nerfed my spear : (
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You can now find and use more than one Daedalus Hammer per escape attempt" ALL HAIL SGG
Figures the newest patch launches right after I finish Asphodel for the first time . >: (
"
You can now find and use more than one Daedalus Hammer per escape attempt" BIG OUF
I think chaos gates got a new visual effect?
Hammer time
anyone else having difficulties with turning on the game
I'm SO excited for this, only just beat the Bone Hydra for the first time last week
They got rid of tripple dash ๐ญ
and I have the rest of the night open
Or find it in game ;)
its probably in elysium
im not good enough to get there
not yet
and supergiant uploads their songs
so its not like im stealing or something
noooooooooo
well, it's installed, see y'all later tonight
How'd they nerf it?
Reduced damage
read the patch notes!
It's in the #hades-patch-notes
It needed a nerf, I think
its good that the hammer upgrades seem to not give guaranteed crit anymore - makes artemis boons with them ok
Raw pngs for the new characters are up on the subreddit
Oh hey, Thanatos on the first post-patch run
Luckyyy
I'm very sad about losing Assault Flight. That was my favorite build.
oh right assault flight was the good one, not one of the useless ones for shield special - didnt even realize that ๐ฆ
I love you supergiant
Welp, first hammer was bad
Assault Flight was the rapid fire shield upgrade. It was very strong with Ares on the throw.
mirage flight is probably ok now since you can get multiple hammers
i liked it with zeus
Mirage flight was always alright
In that it was a special upgrade that made the special usable
Otherwise the special is just never worth using
Couldn't disagree more, uno
only with a good boon but only way to use it was assault, yea
new dash feels beeing so vulnerable
Eh
Even with Ares and Assault Flight
You were just basically playing a 10 times worse spear or bow
always zeus with really quick attack thingys
is there a problem with backstabs after this patch?
The new biome is... Mwah.
shows the same dmg number no matter backstab or not
did you fill it in the mirror? - maybe take all points out and in again - they changed the max after all
my first run post-patch and i get thanatos ;3;
yeah degrading and upgrading it did the trick ty
womp womp
i love this game so much
it's so goood now in release it'll be one of my top games of all time
guys
in hades-info
' The game should automatically work with PS4, Xbox, Switch Pro, and other XInput controllers. If you run into issues, try disabling Steam Controller support in Steam.'
wut??
What's wrong with that?
AAAAH with the new patch and dialogue I still can't give Meg the damn ambrosia
Hey am I the only one that thinks there should be a keepsake for the hammers?
it'd have to be a bit weaker than the gods ones but it'd be nice
What if it was something crazy like replace all boons with hammers
TF Theseus so strong? 
doesn't really sound like a keepsake at that point. more like a run overhaul thing, like artifacts from RoR
would be awesome if this game had stuff like that tho
Of course
The second I pick up a chaos boon that does damage on attacks
I get 2 rooms with armoured louts
What do you guys think about the dodge? I personally enjoyed the previous one with more reflex a lot more
gonna need to play with it a bit but I really like the smoothness
not having a third dash is a huge bummer
Keepsake for hammer has been suggested before, and I think one of the devs said it'd just break the game (presumably because it'll make things too easy)
Yeah gotta try it more
It'll be nice if it's at least an "increased chance of getting a hammer", and not 100% getting it though
yeah thats why I was thinking it'd be weaker htan the god boons, guess they were worried it wouldn't be fun enough that way
Maybe just like the god ones with a 100% chance at first then maybe increased chance to get it but weakens the buffs
they seem kind of op compared to the other bosses lol
Also is the minotaur bugged or something half the time he didn't crash into the pillars or walls
just glides against them instead of being stunned
@winged relic yeah they are stronger for sure! Still beat them first try ~ I am really scared for the 120 heat run now though. They were already very strong with 0 heat :'D
Ok so
The game hates me
I keep not getting any attack boons from the gods I want to get them from
yeee
yes! I love it!
guys am i the only one with reseted progress?
has anyone tried getting flurry blade and world splitter at the same time
I saw a new patch was released -- can anyone tell me if it added the ability to pet Cerberus?
if you get a chance to grab the explosive return shield hammer I highly suggest you take it
no sadly @vital finch
very fun and stupid strong (on heat 0)
but that's because SGG is working on actually making a game instead of listening to this crazy community 
thats a shame, though can you get max hearts with cerberus yet?
(and by that i mean listening to our dumb ideas not actual game feedback)
Okay, thank you for the information.
@vital finch thank you for your service
but is athena's dash now not absolute garbage
YEEE
so did they just straight up remove all downsides to it?
Rail instantly became the best weapon ngl, i can imagine so many double hammer combos that work its ridiculous
Just did an Explosive Shotgun run with Artemis crit on attack. It does ridiculous damage
do those actually stack? I've noticed things like Shotgun and Flurry Fire dont stack
they probably don't but i can dream
thing that change your attack pattern dont appear to stack together unfortunately
but my favorite combos are explosive bullets + flurry fire/shotgun, or slug shot with infinite ammo
Same selection of pom upgrades (aka the only boons it sucks on) twice in a row
so what's the dash cap now? away from windows laptop
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neato gazeeto
nice, cleared on first run. loved the new adds!
submitted about 4 bug reports
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slug is a new rail hammer buff. One shot that does I believe 80 base damage
it's supposed to be hard to outkill the literal god of death
not with explosive rail it isnt :kappa:
also now im going to play a run with only bull rush bc invuln
ive gotten than 1 or 2 times in elysium and once i get my 2nd hammer i pretty comfortably beat than
part of me wants to ditch my save file and start fresh on this update... the progression was really nice
Alright, time for take 2
I managed to make it to Elysium but the new enemies kinda busted me
aaaaaaaa i can't wait to get home
is there a reason that I'm unable to post in the feedback channel? I don't have anything to say at the moment, but it's locked for me
check pins
Yeap! Please check pins there for details. ๐
Caitlin, what's your favorite part about the new patch, if I may ask?
I'm a huge fan of environmental art!! My favorite part of Hades as a whole actually remains to be the Tartarus overlook. ๐
So for this update, the overall theme and aesthetic of Elysium is my favorite! Though I know that's kind of broad. ๐
please say the beef
Thanks all!
Also the beef. ๐
ok i got home
I mean, Elysium is beautiful
new ui looks good
MINOTAURS. AAAAAAAAGHH!
Yeah, that too, the game looks even better than it did already
I'M BEYOND HYPE
I am also VERY into the boss fight for Elysium, though I don't wanna talk more about it since you all deserve to see it yourselves. ๐
I LOVE YOU SGG
i love that its called the beefy update
Do you think this update will moo-ve a lot of copies?
Salt do you get the joke
Yeah once it's on steam at full release, I think it may be SGG's most popular game
but I'm only speculating
hold on lemme make it a bit more apparent
Can't get to the update until tonight, but the patch notes look great and made me go "holy cow! "๐ฎ
apparently it's now more smooth
so the previous dash had endlag at the end of it, this new dash either doesn't have any or has a lot less
so instead of briefly stopping when you dash, you just keep moving
I feel like the game is much smoother with this patch
It's common for me to have fps drops, and I haven't experienced any so far
does anyone else have the new chariot enemies spawning inside the house of hades?
some are spawning in Zag's room and right on top of Skelly
That is DEFINITELY a bug
yeah lol i sent two bug screenshots just now
That seems dire
But please screencap and send it here it sounds hilarious
let me get it hold on
There is no escape (even in Zag's own room)
how do you open the screenshots folder for hades?
lol yeah, the torment never stops
If you're posting it here, you need to make it a link to elsewhere first. The file itself should be in the files for Hades
idk where the hades files folder is
to access the folder, go Your PC > Documents > Saved Games > Hades
ah found it, thank you
Print screen. Paste to paint. ^^
I'm actually not sure print screen works, I tried to do that before epic implemented screenshot support and it just printed a black screen
huh, weird
i also have another screenshot for the chariots on top of skelly if you guys want lol
hey look it's your own greek smasher
Send it if you can am curious
That's an awesome and dire bug
ya lol, but i hope it's not fixed (which it will be)
since those spawned in the training room I could actually kill them, but they respawn afterwards
Today can't play at all cause am travellin but i ll give it a shot tomorrow to see the elysium fields !
Is scelly actually even there in the picture
It seems he got replaced by that chariot
Or maybe scelly was a magic shapeshifting chariot all along
He is a bit shady
definitely a shapeshifter
but nah he's under there lol, he's probably trying out a new weightlifting technique or something
ya he was yapping about the things under the blankets, i didn't unlock them yet beforehand
"hey boyo there's some cool heat challenges in the corner over there"
"skelly i think there's more pressing matters at the moment"
lol
There's things under the blankets?like in zag s bed?
does the new keepsake give i frames?
THAT'S WHY YOU DIE BOYO
YOU CAN'T ESCAPE HELL IF YOU DON'T HAVE SICK ABS BOYO
what's the new keepsake for this update?
So referring to the scelly secret stuff i didn't even know existed how do you actually unlock and access them?
ok everyone i have an important announcement and i shall be the first one to say it
ahem
theseus x asterius
thank you for your attention
Who is asterius
the minotaur
Oh they even gave him a name
Didn't have time today to play at all
So don't know anything about the update except the patch notes I read
Hey, anybody know how you get clearance to post feedback?
There should be a pinned message in the channel
I checked that. I'll check it again, I guess?
Ah
Found it
Sorry, missed like, the one sentence that was holding me back
Why I can't write into feedback room, but some guys can?
read 5 sentences above the message you posted
oh the skelly stuff i think it has to do with something related to heat?
i only just unlocked it today, i have no idea
Ok because i have heat and makey runs more hellish and all but no clue about the stuff someone told about scelly
yeah idk
Any clue if hades is on MAC?
Like i wanna get this so much on my ps4 when it is complete
So i think after early access they can concentrate on distribution to everything else
hey guys, first time posting here, had anyone unlocked the broken spearpoint yet?
if so how and what does it do?
Hey what are the new status effects?
uh basically weak/sick and the like
sorry but does anyone know what happened to the ability to upload pictures in this discord?\
it wasn;t in this channel ever
I am sure I uploaded a run picture in the gameplay and spoiler channels before ๐ค
discuss: Skelly is definitely Theseus, right?
Great new biome ! Is that normal to have the possibility to finish the new boss after I die ? I kill him with sick, after he kills me .
@sudden basin Thank you, glad you're enjoying it! It sounds like you experienced a bug there. Next time anything like that happens, you can press F10 during gameplay to report bugs directly to us, which includes game info that helps us quickly track down and fix any issues.
Did anybody else get the charriot bug? It was one of the funniest things that happened to me.
@vale drift Got it !
Report chariot bug as well
wow can I just say that none of us (as far as I saw) predicted the minotaur
I literally never saw the minotaur mentioned
Just got to theseus and the minotaur, that fight is insanely hard i colud Even beat one they are soo tanky
love the new update!
can I find new song somewhere? Im in love with it but cannot find it :/
Yeah the bosses are kinda overtuned
โค thanks a lot
streamer having trial dialogue trigger in a regular boon room
I barely got past the Minotaur on 90 heat (I accidentally forgot to reset my heat on my first attempt lmaoo) but I was somewhat surprised by how easy Elysium is on 0 heat. I tried 25 afterwards and did super poorly because I used a strat I'm not experienced with. XD
@tulip lava Are you sure it was the Trial dialog and not the new Athena-Artemis Duo boon dialog that was put in?
it was artemis saying the forgiving line?
Oh, hmmm, that does sound weird
How did you beat Elysium on 90 heat
Ayyee beat the new boss on my first try.
Why is this new dash supposed to be better? It seems worse to me
you aren't stopped while moving anymore
I guess, it seems that I move less far, and slower\
not to mention I can do it one less time, personally I like the old one better, but it's not a big deal
I really enjoy it, feels much more fluid
dash is more fluid
See, it seems the opposite to me
It feels less fluid to me, but I realize this is a personal opinion
thats fine
I don't like having one less dash though
I can't even beat the second biome so I doubt I'll ever see elysium
Put that you don't like it in feedback. It's possible that someone agrees.
Nah, it's not a make or break thing, and I haven't gotten to use it that much, it's possible my opinion changes after I play a while
no reason to criticize before I'm sure
I feel like I'm missing something with hades that I didn't with other supergiant games
sigh
Not had much good luck today, got a bunch of interesting boons and upgrades but nothing that could get me to the boss of Asphodel and beat him,
Plus, I was having lots of lag that was costing me tons of health
(I have a pretty heafty gaming laptop and wasn't experiencing any lag at all until the update)
Then, a few attempts in, things were going well, the lag wasn't too bad, I had just beat Tisiphone without taking any damage,
At which point, my controller's vibrate function goes crazy for no reason and then suddenly stops responding to any inputs,
It was plugged in properly, the power light was on, it just wouldn't do anything,
It started working again once I unplugged it, used the keyboard to reset the game and plugged it back in,
But it has frozen up again a couple of times, at random, when I enter new rooms
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What weapon to you use Danikov?
I've tried all sorts. Chaos shield git me to the hydra
But that was many patches ago
Yeah, I use the shield as my preference
You get used to things after a while, Danikov. It's okay! I think the average for most people to get past Asphodel is 30/40~60 runs or so.
the rapid return buff from the hammer and any major damage boon, athena is really useful with the hydra
The shield is the most adaptable so I think it's the best pick for a struggling player
rapid return and athena buff obliterates the hydra with almost no effort, those yellow heads that shoot the red weaves are completely reflected
I struggle after beating meg
yeah, the common enemies are way harder on the second biome
I can usually get to meg no problem but some builds she's impossible
Like the dps is awful and each hit intake is huge
Now, when you say "meg" do you mean meg specifically, or any of the sisters
All 3 furies are in
I kinda stopped playing after getting nowhere
They all have a similar charge/dash skil, and all have a variation of the ground based area attack you need to dodge
And each has a few of their own specials
It's kinda a mix of not doing much damage, not being able to get hits in without taking damage, and the hits being too big
I'd probably say they're about the same difficulty, but maybe a tiny bit harder since they'd be new
Dodge a lot, that's what I do, hit once, dodge, dodge, repeat. or you can go a cast build if you get good boons
A good cast build can stomp her
I have 50 escape attempts so maybe I'm below average
Actually, a good cast build is good for the hydra too
2400 darkness, not much
Honestly, for me, it just comes with repetition, eventually you'll learn attack patterns
The hydra was hard at first because I didn't realize the heads colors determined what they did
When I realized that, it changed the fight for me
That and having to deal with many heads towards the end
Most of my runs end with one of those survival rooms
I can't cope with too much on the screen
The survive for X seconds one?
Like I said, I didn't have much problem with bastion or transistor so I'm stumped
Just dodge, never stop, don't even bother fighting unless it's to just throw a shield out
Do you play your dodges, or just spam the button?
sorry, play=plan
I struggle to even dodge the wine dudes
The ones that jump or the ones that throw bottles?
They charge
oh, the fat guys
Ok, I can see that, I remember having that trouble
Sometimes even the skulls get me
I try to dodge towards them
so I end up behind them
throws the fat guys off
I don't know what to tell you about the skulls though, I just dodge a lot. I know it sounds like an old record, but it works
And hell, I've got to play more of this new patch, some of what I've said might not apply anymore
I just need to play more in sure
this was a big update
good luck
I have just beaten the game again, but especially after getting many boons the performance just flies out the window. Am I the only one to experience performance issues after the update? I even hat to lower the resolution to 720p, but even then there were MANY fps drops and stutter
I had that a lot, but it didn't really happen until the Hydra and large swarms of enemies in Elysium
If I had Dionysus' wrath plus anything with Zeus' the game would just stutter tons regardless of the number of enemies, the issue is that before the update everything was fine
I havent tried it yet but the new dash sounds exciting. The dash was one of the things that bugged me
i just completely crashed in the middle of the final fight ๐ฆ
F
beat the final fight on the second try. I had an absolutely broken build though. Sheild with a bunch of Athena deflection boons and damage reduction.
then i put my heat up to 60 and cant even defeat the hydra lol
I would advise you to try and get the poseidon boon early that gives you %extra hp
I got it early on my 50 run and ended up with something like 360 hp
tbh I've been getting to the end without that
But yeah the centaur hearts still boosting your health are vital
unless they changed how those work
i think its honestly the new dash that makes alecto way easier
it makes it much easier to kite her
Are there supposed to be codex entries for the Elysium foes yet? Not getting any added except for the Minotaur
you have to kill a set number of each to unlock the intial entry i believe
Ah I never noticed that before, thanks
Ha-hah!!
Triumph at last!!
So I just got a trial of the gods and angered Zeus and as soon as I do that outside a storm comes out of no where and i can see the lightning outside my window. The sound even perfectly timed with the in game one. 
I think I made a mistake
damn hades got a vr release already 
LOL
jk jk
Where are the saves of Hades ?
Documents\Saved Games\Hades
Thanks a lot.
in the menu, under Controls, the bindable hotkey is "Boon Info"
thanks
Poseidons boons are op in ELYSIUM
does anyone else feel like the soul enemies in elysium with the kill the soul thing reminds them of the cell thing in transistor
also i beat it first try
i think im either too good or the build was dumb
yeah feels like it
badcell again
Poseidon boons are, can confirm, really really good in Elysium. So many of those enemies just DO NOT like being shoved away from you. Also there are walls. Blessed walls again! ๐
the legendary boon for poseidon is pure op
Still ain't no Zeus legendary. Poseidon has just steadily gotten better with each update though. I remember when he was almost meme tier at first, now he's probably up in the top 2-3. All because Elysium has easy nice easy walls to slam things into again...
Got good utility boons too
Im so sad that discord and hades still have their streaming issue ):
i did manage to show my friend the new biome once
but closed it, remembered I hadnt shown her the new codexes and then boop, surprise, freeze screen and no hades discord sharing for me ;_;
Thanks for reporting a game freeze! The most common solution to this issue can be found in #hades-tech-fixes-old
i was really hoping the new update would fix it
cuz it happened in the middle of the Kill Murder whatever update
and then ever since has just been "on a fresh install of hades/or discord, u can stream it during call but once'
So, that final Elysium fight.. i was full Ares/Aphrodite with Artemis wrath and legendary aphro boons .. erh.. so each time i dashed they were automatically charmed, and just kept on hitting each others for 30 minutes straight, that was actually kinda funny
I don't remember the specifics and the boons I had (just now), but has anyone else experienced a seriously slow down in framerate? I'm talking about 10fps and pure mayhem on screen... I finished the run, but, that was one of the worst gameplay experience I had in a long time. Playing with a 1070 and ryzen 1600x I expected this game to hold up better than that...
Yeah, I see, still this game doesn't look that demanding in order to get those fps with a 1070 at 1080p, but I'll try those later
Most of the problems seem to stem not necessarily from the demand of the game (though there can be a lot of particle effects going on) but from the video card not being properly assigned to it, or else OpenGL issues as in the first link I provided
Some people also see significant improvement just from running in windowed borderless instead of fullscreen
Can anybody explain to me why there are witches in Elysium, btw?
They're there to keep all the frat-boy Exalted Souls in line
Why Not
Hehe
theyโre the sorority girls
Because everyone, everywhere is bewitched by them
The real question is why aren't you supporting a witch in your own home?
They're like a warm, cozy blanket of familiarity in each new zone of terror
they haven't uploaded the new track onto their youtube yet
It will be there Soonโข
If you subscribe to the SG Blast email newsletter, you sometimes get an early peek at stuff like that before they push it public
oh nice
I mention that because they have the song in today's email
how does one do this
So, small detail that I love; Zagreus and Meg have at least one turn of phrase that only they share. Like, nobody else refers to their enemies as 'stupid fools.' I like that kind of subtle nod to the fact that they used to... get along better? Have a relationship that is not their current one. Not sure if there are any others.
Might be better suited to #h1-story-discussion if you want to talk about this in detail
it seems like him and meg were together romantically, or at least sexually at some point
nice
nice
why the rubber thanos gloves
did anybody else have basic movement issues this update?
i posted it in tech support, but just wondering if it was a common issue. cant play at all.
This is the first mention I've seen of your particular issue
yea i scrolled up a ways but figured i might have missed it
would rather like to play
hmm weird
I haven't loved a game so much since Bastion... โค devs
Has anyone unlocked the new weapon and if they have, how do i get it?
I dont think there was a new weapon added in this update?
No
ooh how to get
Pretty salty that I just lost a run with only Theseus left because I managed to make a build that turned the game into a literal slideshow with 1 or 2 FPS with Zeus Attack on Adamant Rail with Infinity Chamber and Explosive Rounds
There are some options that can improve framerates in #hades-tech-fixes-old
Sure, but you know, so you can maybe avoid losing future runs
I'd be surprised if they actually fixed the issue completely given how extreme the slow down was; it seemed to hang for an entire second if I used wrath during the big mess
but the fixes have already been applied
I somehow managed to kill Teseus and Minotaur, but that drop in framerate was really annoying. It happened after Minotaur death, kinda most powerful Teseus ability:) Also it looks that these lags are related to fog cast somehow.
Hey does anyone know what the poms of power change did?
basically pom upgrades gradually get less powerful if you use them on a single boon
Does fated authority have a cap ?
yeah
uhhh lemme check the wiki
it goes up to +10
the tiers are 1k / 2k / 3k / 4k / 5k / 10k / 20k / 30k / 40k / 50k
thats a lot of darkness to farm
it's supposed to be a darkness sink
yeah i figured
just got +3
but getting heat from rerolls is kinda sad
cus you get plenty from hydra
Deadly strike lvl 3(+42% dmg and 15%crit) + cyclops jerky select (+50%dmg) + minotaur rush(power shot for bull rush) + backstab + urge to kill (+12%dmg) = about 900 dmg i was able to squeeze from my 1st run on the new patch
900 per hit ofc xD
did they say when are they gonna do more floors ??
im not sure offhand but the roadmap button by the timer might say something?
they just finished this biome though, id expect it to be another bunch of months
presumably next update will be a new god
yeah, elysium took like 6 months, and that's not counting any early work they had done on it before early access release last december
@topaz kayak - Hey mate, you shouldn't really 'reply' to people's feedback in the #hades-feedback thread itself,
If you wanna talk about something they've said or whatever, just tag them in a message in the #h1-discussion or #h1-builds-and-combat threads,
Not a big deal, it just stops the Feedback thread from getting flooded by debate and making it harder for the SGG crew to quickly and easily see the important things
Tah~
@@sick tree : Fair enough. I thought it was appropriate since I was directly following up on their feedback, but I can see how that would impact readability down the line. Thanks for the flag
how do you get the new keepsake?
I can answer that in #h1-story-discussion
I would report that in-game with F10
i got a fun bug yesterday, at least im pretty sure its a bug (which i will report when i get the chance using f10 don't worry)
right as i started a dash I used up a death defiance and zag just kinda coasted for about 3 seconds
Tbh Iโve been so put off from playing Hades again ahshsh just cause of Megโs fight. Fighting up to her is fun but then when I loose progress cause I die its not fun :/ any got any tips for me to try and beat her? Cause rn I havenโt played for a while
she's very predictable and she has long windups on a lot of her stuff
as you get used to her pattern's it'll get easier and easier
my first few times fighting meg i didn't actually attempt to dodge anything
it didn't work
If you want to cheese Meg, go for Athena boons on shield or bow
Dionysus boons are good if you prefer spear or rail
Tbh Iโve been trying to mix up styles of play but I can justโnever beat her. Iโll beat her 2 out of like 50 times despite watching walk through. But Iโll try those tips. Thanks!
Youโll figure it out eventually!
@potent tapir I have seen this in the previous version of the game
I reported it then
honestly i have much more trouble with her summons now
Ares is a generally good choice then, with either doom or blade rifts
Hey, please don't mention spoilers from the Beefy Update here! You can ask that in #h1-story-discussion
Sorry about that
No worries!
hey is anyone else having really low FPS when alot of effects are going off?
i normally have 90 frames but it goes down to like 5
Yeah I get framey, too.
same here
Have yโall verified your games in a while?
Verified?
Minotea, I think it's just a lot of stuff going on is just performance heavy
I beat them ! ๐
Open the Epic Games Launcher, click the gear on Hades, and hit verify
Only checking because I havenโt seen these issues personally, and thatโs the first thing that comes to mind that could be a variable
And congratulations!
I was getting sporadic frame drops when there were a lot of effects, so I'll try that!
๐
If that doesnโt work, thereโs always some post-update patches that should help with that
Nice ncie
Does it mean second boss is despoilered now
yes
Hey Nor, ||Patroclus|| is a spoiler
Sorry
Itโs fine, just please move your comment to #h1-story-discussion !
Ok
Question, does Than's keepsake buff stay on if I change keepsakes?
no
Boy is there some trick to fighting shield enemies/bosses? I feel like no matter what they block 90% of the hits
They only block from the front
So if you dash behind them, you can hit them
Additionally, effects like doom, sick and the like work through block
As do exit wounds if you have that
And lastly, whenever they launch one of their attacks
They leave themselves vulnerable for a bit
Dodge, then wail on them
Neat I figured it was something like that but I hadn't fought enough to confirm, thank you!
welp, my game's visuals crashed
Rip
Like the visuals crashed, but not the game..., so I was able to exist out, and just restart that room
iโve had that happen to me so many times
first time getting to the minotaur and I almost beat him ;-;
Quick question
I encountered a bug in game but it wasn't a visual one, should I report that with F11 as well?
F10, yes you should! Just describe it so itโs clear what youโre talking about
So is dash reduced to two max now?
Ok that stupid bull in act 3 is not worth to fight whatsoever
screw that miniboss and his abnormal health bar lol :3
Also got my first heroic ever and holy does it gives a boon to you. Poseidon wrath 380 damage on impact is quite alot
poseidon wrath is the stone cold nuts, even just at rare
strong contender for best in the game now
makes ares wrath even more sad in comparison
Ares wrath also doubled in damage
Speculation: what if the next weapon is a pair of winged boots?
big kicks
I'm thinking about gloves or smth
nemean cestus from GoW 3 pls
aw man they changed the name of Blight Wine?
YEAH its so icky now ncnfnvjgh
what is it now
Sick
inflicts sick
its so bad
please at least call it something cutely euphemistic like "makes enemies tipsy!"
Siiiick
sick dude
It actually gives them little sunglasses
i guess if i imagine dionysus saying it in his surfer bro voice itโs not so bad but it still sounds worse than blight wine
Zag: dionysus you're supposed to make that clown car sick
Dio: haha yeah it's the illest
Tipsy would be better but I guess that inplies confusion not damage over time
Okay, this guy starts to scare me
https://imgur.com/WMjUHIE
I thought we were buddies and all
On the other hand
Nah they just want to hang out
Now canonically Zag plays "Get down with the Sickness" by Disturbed whenever he gets a Dio boon
chaos' kids never call anymore they just want some face time
some face face face face face face time
when they say there need not be a reason i think they mean it like 'drop by anytime :3'
FACE FACE FACE FACE TIME.... HJGHJFJFJH
honestly what would chaos even do if you dropped in and they had their boons all ready for you and zag's just like "nah i just want to hang out"
Why always when i get ||Patroclus|| room in Elysium other room always have something i realy want like shop or boon for the build
woops
dont use spoilers in discord very often
yes
theyd make you take one but also hang out
"i go to all the trouble of picking boons and you dont want any? of course you get a boon. here also lets play checkers"
"its funny watching u move the pieces with slothful on"
wtf is with thanatos
It jiust spawned me a room of nothing but tanky elites
and i insta lost
heโs trying to protect you and heโs tired today
Chaos: And what is the reason for your visit today, son of Hades?
Zag: Idk gramma, I just wanna hang
Chaos, wiping away tears from all seven of their eyes: Oh okay cool
yeah gdkjfgfd
it's ok honestly, like, i'm ok with just letting him do the work
I consume any and all Chaos fan content in a feverish haste, they're just so good
i'm ๐ฟ for family drama
I'd love nothing more than than to spawn in the start room
yes hello, i played this game for the first time today after playing the initial release. Some bugs have been noted, please see below
Bug #1: HOLY HECK
Bug #2: LOOK AT THESE CHARATER DESIGNS
Bug #3: DIONYSIS AND CHAOS AND ARTEMIS AND ALL OF THEM THEYRE SO COOL
Bug #4: I WANT TO HANG OUT WITH THESE GODS GOOD JOB ART AND WRITING TEAMS
Bug #5: occasional issues tabbing to the steam overlay
Bug #6: AND THE M16 IS A GREAT ADDITION TO THE GAME IMMA GO PLAY MORE NOW BYE
welcome to the club ๐
new patch, new me
That's a great name, ven
there were too many straight up minotaur puns on the mod team so i had to change shirts
we can't all go out looking like that
Kinda feels more like Hysterious than serious
I endorse this change
Hm
With his new friendship with the minotaur, would King Theseus be a proponent of Asterity programs?
Hey, anybody else experiencing severe frame drops? Started on the new area, but it did happen on the second part of the game as well, not so much at the beginning though.
i think thats a very common thing yeah ๐
i had frame drop with skelly this morning hdjdmfj
Hey there. It's been a while. I encountered a bug that made me impervious to all attacks and I would like to know if there's a "known issues" list to see if it's already acknogledge and being investigated, or if it's worth for me to report.
Hey Fyce! It's always worth reporting, but thank you for asking! Go ahead and F10 that bad boy.
Alright thanks!
is there a specific trigger to get Than to show up or does he just come when he feels like it?
There are some broad conditions
You have to have taken damage sometime within the past 5 chambers
He also only shows up after chamber 10 in Tartarus, and after chamber...17 or so? I think? in Asphodel
Other than that though, it's random, and I don't know what the room bracket is for Elysium
than rooms feel bad when you arent on a burst build
better off just letting him fight ๐ฆ
yeah, i've gotten into the habit of doing that tbh
i think they made his rooms harder with this update...
I don't think they did? They rebalanced the Elite spawns, but I don't think they're harder, personally
Sometimes you just get bad luck on spawn choices
I had a nice and easy one today with lots of regular Numbskulls, those are my favourite for Thanatos challenges
That's just my opinion, though, your mileage my vary
Loving this update. Finally beat Theseus+Minotaur after a handful of runs. Feels like I'm getting more bugs/fps issues than normal but still really into this game.
Devs pls post the new song on YouTube
Play now in Early Access at: https://goo.gl/aMFcbB Composed by Darren Korb. Hades is a trademark of Supergiant Games, LLC.
I'm mad salty about Achilles' blatant disrespect for my dear friend the onion.
It's still only technically available if you're a Supergiant Blast! subscriber. You can subscribe at this link if you don't want to miss future music right after updates. 
https://www.supergiantgames.com/join/
No banne, Wight!!! I'm glad Sunn will get to hear the tune a little before it's officially available. ๐
No no no, I was poorly recreating the Kid and Red image on the join page
I did mess up my order though
Now I have to fix it...
There
Aw that's wonderful!! The
may stay.
i was listening to the theme and right before it goes ham it sounds kinda like the music that plays here at bullfighting events
bullfighting ain't cool but i liked the detail if i didn't make it up that is
some pasodoble beats (i think it was a pasodoble might be wrong oops)
how can one get premission to write in thech feedback channel?
Read the pinned post in that channel for instructions
Hi, I'm confused about one of the patch notes. This:
"Redesigned Dash: outmaneuver your foes like never before with this newly revised core ability"
This make it seem like the ability got better, but during my gameplay, it seems to be severely nerfed (can only dash twice, and there is a delay before you can dash again). Am I missing something? Is there some secret way to make it better?
Not really, I think that part mentions the usual movement not being interrupted before/after dashes.
Interrupted by what though? I never had a problem with dashing prior to the last update
He had like a split-second of bending his knee preparing to jump
You mean there was a delay before he could move normally again?
yeah
I see. It is now the opposite. No delay for normal movement, but a delay for re-dashing.
Well, the delay seems larger than it was at least
As I think there was a delay before as well
Still doesn't make sense why they made it a 2 levels upgrade, when it was 3
I think they had written down the reasons for that somewhere, though I can't really remember where that was now.
Well, I don't think there is any profound reason behind it that isn't intuitive. It is most likely just a nerf to make the game harder. I didn't think it was easy before though.
I can say the dash was definitely not nerfed to make the game harder. It just needed some changes. With the new dash you can escape diagonally from skull crushers, which is already a great fix; itโs just a smidge longer than the old one cause of the slide.
Well, we used to be able to dash three consecutive times before the delay kicks in. Now we can only dash twice. Doesn't that strike you as a nerf? It does to me.
Ultimately, I will just have to "deal with it", but I'm finding it hard to enjoy the last update, when getting to the new area would have been a challenge prior to the update as it is, and now it is just worse.
I feel the new Dash is just better overall
Sure, you lose one dash
But you can move more freely with it
And do actions during it more smoothly
Dash is smoother, and you can manoeuvre mid dash
There's always been a limit on the amount of times you could dash tho
Yeah, the limit was 3, now it is 2
I think the new dash probably has a greater impact if playing on a controller
Positively or negatively?
positively, i'd say; i play on controller, and after i got used to it i quite like the new dash
Positive I have to imagine.
Funnily enough, I used to play on a keyboard prior to the update, and now I'm playing on a controller
I've only used keyboard and it feels smoother, but it is very likely that only being able to dodge 8 ways is holding me back.
But I have felt that dodging through opponents feels great now and backstabs are easier to setup.
yeah, dancing around opponents can be done much more reliably
I play on mkb and dash feels better
And all i do in my runs is dash
I barely notice the dash limit tbh
the delay is only noticeable if you use up both dashes and can be avoided by spacing out your dashes slightly
i had a bow build that was built around that
Itโs a matter of getting used to it
And with crit dodge spear build its ๐๐ผ
Heeeey, I do not know if I can ask this here, but, does someone know how to unlock Lament Of Orpheus but, the Underworld Remix?, I've heard the normal song, but that version no ๐
the new dash is soooo good
It's very smooth! 
that was one of my big problems with it before. it just felt so clunky to use and didnโt flow right with the combat. now it feels like the dodge roll in bastion
the reduction to just two dashes doesnโt feel like a nerf at all because zag doesnโt have that brief moment of being stunned after he uses all his dashes anymore. and it saves my thumbs a lot of button pressing
i havenโt yet noticed a situation where i would feel like i needed a third dash
People who played a ton, do gods run out of stuff to say when you pick up their boons? Or it cycles?
cycles
Hi how i can post a bug ?
but new update has a lot more voice lines so
or where ?
Thanks
F10
^in game
Has anyone gotten those enemies that spawn a soul stuck in the wall?
Yes, that's happened to quite a few people! If you're able to catch the cause please report it in-game with F10
It has happen a few times before but they usually get unstuck after a moment but this one is firmly stuck into the wall.
I didn't know about the F10 
Okay, another problem..Athena special deflect with Stygian Q makes the soul act really weird.
so are sword special builds just completely unplayable right now?
i've tried two in a row and both have been bugged in elysium, knocking enemies out of bounds
they are a ton of fun at least, getting an epic athena special and its all over, churns through the first two zones
yeah they seem really strong but its been literally impossible to finish with them, just get stuck in an unending room
Hey guys can i quit the game mid run and continue it later?
Because im doing a run but my computer needs to reboot
You can, yes
Yes you can
Quit option saves ur state
Give up finishes a run and keeps the seed
Alright! Thank you
should be clarified that give up cancels the run, as in you won't keep any progress gained on that reun, it just zaps you back to the house as if you hadn't left
"Quit" saves the run, "Give Up" discards the run
I was so excited when i saw that i LOVED Made in Abyss and you can really see the influence in a lot of Elysium
Just the colors they used and the style for the foliage reminds me of it and the weird egg traps really fit in The Abyss
Hello folks, I'm extremely new here and I have a weird question. Does anyone have a picture of Zagreus's feet.
This is a question about reference art and not total tomfoolery, I promise.
I think with the new dash it's safe to say he wears slidey socks
does he even wear socks? havent actually looked at his feet in game
just seen the fiery steps
This is why I'm asking. Does he not wear feet shoes? Or just sandals that are fireproof?
Ok this is like, the only place that seemed correct to ask?
yeah dont see where else
i tried looking for i pic of an in game model online but i couldn't find one i was about to play anyway so I'm looking lol
look around on the artists' twitters, they share the models there sometimes
ok so its barefoot, he wears shin guards, and his feet are yellow at the toes and have a sharp gradient to like a pale red by the ankle
the shin guards actually go onto his foot a little? its weird if they are metal cause then he wouldnt be able to bend his foot XD
oh wow
I really really like the sound design?
i only got it like a month ago? but I've only done 57 runs
Lol Numinous
LOL i wanted to but I was stupidly resistant to getting my 5th launcher
i regret waiting
Oh uh
I have gameplay opinions.
After this many runs but like, yeah.
It's a great game.
Thanks so much!
you are a wizard
Literally what I needed haha
Barefoot, but color impacted by the fact that he's flaming. Of course!!! I remembered when Paige shared the models on twitter back in January.
She did amazing work on our boy!!!! I'm glad it helps. โ
listen, my favourite tiny detail from the models is still thanatos's nail polish
I have been trying not to make fanart for weeks.
i read that as his thanatoe's i can't stop laughing
Like, surely I havee something better to do. but today I'm caving.


