#h1-discussion
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this is only tangentially related to hades, but i's been a long while since I played, and I thought it couldn't hurt to ask: there's still no "gifting" method in the epic store to gift this game, is there?
Nope
I like the shield alot, but I think the bow is harder to use considering you have to stop in one place to shoot and time your shots. The bow is really fun to me
I actually thought the shield was a boomerang when I hadn't bought it yet
gosh, is it really only 4 days until the next update?
I've only done three runs or so with the rail
I need to reprioritize my hades playing time
Am i the only one that likes the first sword the best? I liked the hammer the most in Bastion too
SWORD
I like the sword too, but that rushing shield thing is really fun to use and so damaging. Then thing i like about the sword is that nova blast
I can't wait to unlock that spear though
Also, I had 6 keys, and was deciding on either a new weapon, or a new attribute to pick in the mirror. It was such a friggin hard choice
I like the sword, especially when the special pushes tons of enemies away (even better with them multi-kills)
shield then spear are my next favorite
Sword special + Artemis special + Super Nova for Big Crits
Its interesting to me that nobody said the bow. I think that bow is high risk, but also so fun
Bow is cool beans
bow for lyfe
is nobody
Bow is no fun imo
It's definitely a different playstyle, and it's ok to like (and dislike) different things
I adore it, personally
It's super cool how a weapon I suck at someone else loves, there's a lot to learn
They've done a great job of having all the weapons feel unique. They're all viable, but all require different playstyles that not everyone will enjoy. I am garbage at sword, for example
That's your opinion :P
All the high heat and/or speedruns that I've seen use spear or bow, which lends credence to them being the objectively most powerful
Well
Yes and no and yes

I just feel like spear is really boring
I dont know about sr strats but I just like full on crazy melee with sword or shield
Even on high heat runs
What's a high heat run?
Heat is a resource you get by beating the final boss. You can use it to increase the difficulty of the game
Guys no spoilers in this channel please
That was my fault. I was asking about it and didn't know it was end game stuff
other people should not be bringing it up as it is a spoiler
It's...I dont really think heat is a spoiler
I would agree, Heat isn't a spoiler
Not any more than the idols or limiters
It detracts nothing from your experience to know that Heat exists
And we generally allow mentions of the final boss here, just not details about it
Unlike, say, someone discussing what the (current) final boss is
I forget who gives it to you but that powerup where you get crits after you special i think it very good with the sword, and the spear. My favorites are probably sword and spear
That's a Hammer upgrade if I remember correctly
Yup, it's the Empowering Nova upgrade
For sword, anyway
Yeah i like the spear upgrade where you can hold it for the quick jabs
It's a good'n
heat comes from room rewards how is it a spoiler
It only comes from room rewards after clearing a run
No; the way chaos boons work kind of means there's not a clear framework for a "legendary"
there are guides on the wiki pages for the relevant gods, yeah
thank you
no prob!
zag always asks "where is hypnos" but he never asks "how is hypnos"
Nor "why is Hypnos"
What is Hypnos
(Asleep)
Man it would be so cool if chaos boons like warped your god boons
Maybe corrupted them
But that's just me throwing out cool sounding ideas with no backing

I just dont find value in chaos boons as I'm sitting here hard stuck on 120 heat runs
chaos boons are either stupidly broken or worthless
there seems to be no middle ground
I think they're either mediocre or worthless
But my experience isnt representative of a normal player
So I dont force my suggestions or feel to strongly about my opinions
I will say this: Chaos boons are real bad when you get a random one
I won't even bother to take them if I feel a run is going well, I usually only go for them when I feel a severe lack of synergy in a build
It's an easy way to turn a good run awful, and an awful run to a potential completion
duude
who else is hyped
for the new update?
its 100% thanatos, alecta and tisiphone]
If its not you owe me a soda

the middle figure has a scythe and a hood+cloak which looks like a standard death-like person
the other two both have one wing like meg
and similar hair/body shape
guessing theres a completely new area coming with this update
and the boss is thanatos + both furies
Im also guessing the next area is either the Mourning Fields or the Elysium
Thanatos is greek myth apparently guards the doors of death
wait...
Maybe this update allows us to go into Hades room?
but thanatos guards it now or something?
I wouldn't get your hopes up for a major new area with this update
Just going by how long it took Tartarus and Asphodel to be developed, with Asphodel not even really being in a fully polished state at the start of early access, you can assume that a new biome would take at least 6 months to implement
I've seen some theories to that effect, yeah!
so its a random fury fight every time
but I guess we'll have to wait and see on tuesday
What if we were all wrong, and it is just Demeter with a slick Scythe and sword combo.
no explanation, there's just two of him
twice as dio-nice uwu
dio.........two
Dio-twice-us
can't wait to change my nick into some other pun in three days
I think I'mma keep mine, it suits me
im excited for the rapid change of nicknames and pictures after the update
sorry ๐ giants โญ but i found the next cover art ๐ in the files ๐พ ๐ฉ
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hi just curious will hades have polish language?
like transistor had they told they gonna make for pyre too but they didnt
update waiting room
well if he's a part of the house of hades, he's got to at least have the obligatory house of hadesโข modesty tights
and he appears to have a hood too
and maybe some kind of like scarfy thing??
but other than that...
tights, hood, thats it
honestly? that would be a hella look
ok yeah it really would
really hoping we get a philosopher in the next update
as one of the new voiced characters
like maybe diogenes who insults you for using darkness and trinkets
hfhjfjfhj dont worry itd be cool to see him in hades anyway
ohhhhhh him!!
and philosophy boi
math boi
lets get some thinking bois in this game
who do you think is in the new patch
its three odyssi
gkjdfhgkdfjhgkjf
the plural of odysseus is odyssi
i wanted to say odypodes but actually that's the plural of oedipus
the plural of oedipus is. oedipodes.
gfdkghdfg maybe not,
heck time for me to get banned
ofc who we see in the underworld depends on where this is supposed to be set in history too
like it's clearly after the trojan war so anyone from that time or before is fair game
classical greek philosophers and playwrights were mostly like...500s, 400s BC as opposed to the like
900s BC of Homer and the 1200s or so BC of the trojan war
all 7 hydra heads share 1 brain cell
athena and chaos are the only ones exempt from the one braincell rule
chaos' coat heads all share one. parent said its my turn to use the brain cell
epic blade rift cast with 6 cast slots feels OP ๐
yeah this was easy
We out here loving blade riftsโจ
are they actually good? I had them once and were slightly disappointed
it's good but it involves a different playstyle
If youโre gonna put blade rift on cast you need to be aware of your surroundings so you donโt send it into the lava haha
undead cronus as a boss
skelecronus
Sans
you've heard of the good times update, now get ready for
Dionysans
This guy gets it
DIEonysius
itโs sans underworld
THERE IT IS
Is this game's price going to increase after Early Access?
No
I just bought this game and I'm obsessed
I've only gotten to the second boss though >.<
The second boss is currently the last boss
that's good then :3
Dedication and commitment, I'd say
They're trapped in the underworld with nothing else to do.
new Bonus room, Just find the entire dev crew slaving over the game its in. Zagaras is throughly confused whenever he's done talking to them
like finding gamefreak in the pokemon games
I would love a huge meta thing like that in the game
besgion there gotta be polish or no how sad
oml I saw undead cronus earlier in the chat and I was like โheck yea incel fishman went to hellโ
it's got a good amount of polish too for early access
Fun fact: Spear Special can trigger pressure plates
Ooo that seems exploitable (for players who are better than me)
wait marshmallow are u bully or dont get what i mean ๐ซ ๐ค ๐ฑ
ahaha marshmallow i believe what splunkfan is talking about is polish language
@brisk trail I don't think there are plans right now for any new language support. Maybe after the game is finished, SGG will consider more languages
cool thanks
i can't believe i missed dionysus sans fdgkjhgfdjhkl
i've seen people do skelly sans so i didn't expect that
Dionysans
Hey quick question. Just started playing the game. What do the little faces that appear over the ghosts (shades?) sometimes...
(dionysus voice) zag, man, you really shouldn't have done that, now you're gonna have to have...a bad time
fhfjg hi djrenren, the shade faces are just little emoji reactions, they don't do anything
they're just like facial expression for them i believe
just a little flavor
spice things up
ah cool cool ๐ thanks!
I've been wondering for some time, what are the hearts you see when looking at characters in the codex? I understand they increase when you give them ambrosia but do they change anything? Do you get different dialogue options?
You get different dialog, yes
Eventually, they'll add the option to get married and have a child. Then a new game will start, with you playing as the child.
Im disturbed by the connotations of that
This is my husband, Bouldy, and our son, Dwayne Johnson
I'm hoping they get into the origin of the gods more. Athena hinted at telling her origin and it would be awesome to hear it from her in the game.
Achilles is grieving over a loved one, and we respect that. Cerberus is a dog. But Bouldy, Sisyphus, Meg (provided she and Zag fix their relationship), and Charon are all still available for romance
so different dialog, got it, thanks
Yeah, just different dialogue and cutscenes and such
convos you have to have a certain number of hearts to see
Speaking of events, Achilles just told Zag to โGo to your room,โ all terse-like, but there wasnโt any event? Was there supposed to be? Or is it just part of his list of random responses?
That's just one of his standard "I have no unique things to say right now" pieces of dialog
I've always read it as Achilles encouraging Zag to try again
Without outright saying so
Ah then thatโs nice thenโ
Yeah, I read it that way too - a lot of what he says to you is said with the knowledge that Hades is, like, right there lol
Like when you ask him about the weapons and he's like "Oh those? I have no idea how those got there"
Yeah, but a lot of his dialogue seems to disregard it too, so Iโm a bit confused
Achilles is a very troubled shade, but that's a discussion for #h1-story-discussion
Oh, and are the Achilles and Aphrodite wall scrolls mutually exclusive? Or are both obtainable?
Both are obtainable!
Ok, cool, thanks!
With enough $$$ ofc lol
Yeah XD
Gotta make it rain

Gotta be loaded if you wanna live that merch lyfe ๐
Wait that means I passed the Aphrodite scroll like three times for no reason oof
Iim sorry but every time Zag says โYou had it comingโ HE HAD IT COMING, HE HAD IT COMING, HE ONLY HAD HIMSELF TO BLAMEEE
fated authority doesn't really feel worth it
I mean, it's a darkness sink
yeah but 1000 dark for 1 opportunity to reroll
for the entire run
like. when i read it i thought it was per room
It's really an end-game darkness sink
considering the game is built on RNG, and that fated authority is a darkness sink explicitly, I don't think that's unreasonable
It's not something you should bother investing in until you've maxed everything else
If it was any cheaper it would kind of ruin the challenge
maybe not every room but like in isaac its every 6 rooms on avg
tomorrow
oh hell yeah
Tomorrow is only 45 minutes away in Australia
Tomorrow is 9 hours 44 minutes away in Finland
wow, didn't realize y'all were so far ahead of japan ๐ฎ it's 2h 45m away here
12 hours away in ireland
Whats the guesses on the characters? Thanatos and the furies?
but ofc the patch is releasing 3/12 in pacific time soooo
that's been the most popular guess, yeah
It will be Hermes the booty boi
ill cumddingd
sorry it does that jkgjkgkgk
Ahh well, watcha gonna do
its a little overzealous
automod has its limitations but it does save a lot of trouble
Suggestion: make the discord bot final boss
jhfvhfhjfhjfhj
every time zag says "mate" he goes back to house of hades
rip
Charon, ma- UGH (Dun Dun Duuuuun)
Charon is best girl, prove me wrong
i wouldn't dare
How do we get the tags in this server btw?
#bot-commands !
So we got 1 day or 8 days?
1, i think? why 8?
ye in game countdown says 1
๐ต it's the furies countdown ๐บ
(death and i kazzoo cover)
please tell me this exists
the painful way badly fluted
It begins
i'm on spring break i have all the time to make kazoo covers
hades tiktok duo death and i kazoo/badly fluted
If my music theory was any good Iโd offer a ukulele cover but alas
I could offer a sick drum solo using my table
Oh man yesterday I best the final boss w the sword ..... I hadn't touched the sword since I unlocked the bow/shield/spear ๐
I was fully expecting the run to be a wash
I still really dislike the bow and rail
Except Rails special
Shield and sword are the best for me :3
bow i find is very boon dependant
Even with dash attacking
but has some builds that can handle anything
I just feel its slow
I usually only play with uh, shield
Shield is still the best weapon by far
Sword is punishing without a good daedalus
i play with whatever has dark thist on it
Also fair ^^
like Poseidon knockback on the bow special gives you the space to use the slow primary attack
I should have probably played more to get more darkness
I have like... 2,5 k saved up ?
I assume it's ok to share-- oh yeah I usually do that, except for when it was on sword lmao
This was the sword loadout I had
I really like armor slayer ๐
It was the first thing I got
Then the roiling favour
Then I think it was cast, blight, number and pressure
I'm really hyped for tomorrow
Yeah I went into 2nd area without much boon
Inb4 boss calls me to tell me I have a double shift and I get out of work at the really early morning hours of 13th so I can't play Hades when the update comes out ๐
I'd say my favorite cast is still Ares
I think I got 90% from the second area on trial of the gods LOL
If you go for full Arest cast build it just blends everything
I got 2 drunk dad+ Zeus trials ๐
๐
But I'm excited for tomorrow!!
I'm going to be streaming it over discord for my girlfriends
Good old discord streaming ๐
ares cast is probably my favourite while using Rail
it goes so well with the special
Any news on what comes in the patch tomorrow?
Depends on time zone, I'm in Canada, Ontario, and it usually drops in late afternoon for me
Fosho
We don't have a specific time pegged for the update since the final testing time can vary, though we're based in the Pacific time zone and the last couple of updates, it was early afternoon our time. (It's about 12:30pm here now.)
Thank yee Greg โข
ooo update sounds like itll drop near the end of my classes
is the update already?
Nope
~ 15-24 hr
Indeed
#bot-commands
thx
Please read the pinned message and backread in #hades-feedback so you understand the rules and avoid duplicate feedback!
@obsidian maple, you joined Early Access.
odd that the channel for setting roles is slowmoded?
sorry
do that in the bot commands channel please!
i did
its a half hour wait between roles
HOUR?
ye
shouldnt it be 30 seconds
uh no it is 30 seconds
hfjdjf if its 30 minutes weve uhhhh gotta fix that
yea the timer layout must have confused me
ahhh i see
wait what
no it is 30 seconds
no you just shouldn't have that 30 there
proxy got it out for u

what time from france for the update?
France is 8 hours ahead of PDT right now, and while there's no set time for the update, you can expect it probably late evening (12 PDT, 20 CET) give or take a couple hours
That's tomorrow, to be clear
Or I guess it's already "today" for France as far as update-day is concerned, but you get the idea
thx
I wanna make a shortish fan comic but I know Iโm gonna get burnt out by page two ๐
about what?
A modernish setting from the fight with Megara to the first room of Asphodel, but instead of Ancient Greece, heโs escaping a cthonic subway
That sounds amazing ๐
Like each room is a local train, and he hops on a major train to go the next area
That,,, sounds so cool, you should do it
But every hour I spend drawing that is an hour Iโm not playing Hadessssssss
where are the trains going to
Local trains lead to the next platforms or rooms, and transcontinental trains lead to the next area, like Tartaurus or Asphodel
are the louts on the trains jgjkgjkk
Oooo thatโd be cool
ding dong! [boards train] [wretches from the underworld look up from their newspapers and murder me]
Oh, maybe local trains moves Zag to platform fights and express trains move Zag to train fights
fighting on a train platform is terrifying
It would beeeeee
literally when im just. regular going on the train. all i can think about is oh god i hope i dont fall in having a FIGHT there. scary
Oh, express trains constantly pass by the station and anyone not on the platform gets instakilled
On crowded days I side eye everyone as if theyโre gonna bump me into the tracks
sweats
The announcer voice is Hades, and when the doors close he says "WRETCHES OF THE UNDERWORLD, NOW IS YOUR CHANCE" at every stop
One of the louts is just asleep the entire fight
(hades voice) STAND CLEAR OF THE CLOSING DOORS, BOY
omfg XD
meg is the ticket checker man and zag doesn't have a tucket
Athena is on the first train he gets in and she gives him a literal shield then sits back and pulls up her newspaper
hjgvhjgfhjfhj
Iโm imagining Zag has a phone and the gods keep calling him with no caller id
in asphodel zag can hop between train cars but it does lava damage
The trains as they pass the station splash lava everywhere
Zag: In the name of Hades, Olympus I accept this message!
Artemis: You know you don't have to say that every time you pick up, right?
๐
wow I got 215 gold from zeus instead of a boon and that's the most disappointed I've been since the first time I got an onion
Oof. That'll happen if they don't have any boons to give you (because, for example, you already dash, cast, special, and attack boons, plus in this case Zeus's vengeance)
lol I bought another zeus boon from charon and made a profit
gaming the system
Now that's thinking with portals
Hm its the 11th
Timezones are a human construct. In our hubris we have separated time itself.
Indeed
slams my hand on the table let's just put more hours in the day
Chronos is introduced and he has multiple personality disorder and anxiety
I support this motion, kam
Only if those hours are for sleeping drawing or gaming and not work
hm azuki that could be interesting! id love to hear that headcanon so long as everyone talks about those disorders with respect
oh of course. gaming hours ONLY
Suggestion: the final zone should be Hadestown from the hit musical "Hadestown" and the enemies are overworked factory hands
YEAHHHHHHHH
Yeah ? D:
Yeah.
Less musical, and thus inferior, suggestion: Zagโs next weapon is this knife:
https://twitter.com/folkvillain/status/1104983470831472641?s=21
Also a musical suggestion: add Yanni, the greek god of music to the game.
But Korb is already voicing Zagreus
I would recommend the SNL sketch "greed gods" for a solid understanding of all my future suggestions.
Also, are you talking about Laurel
or is it a wolf shaped like a motorcycle shaped like a knife
is it motorcycle sized, wolf sized, or knife sized?
What
Its all three he just has three motorwolfknives of different sizes and one of them howls
Just recycle the scene from transistor where Red is riding the motorcycle, but zag is riding it out of hell. Then Darren can do a cover of "highway to hell".
Yes
Great ideas guys, why aren't we the developers? ๐ ๐ ๐
Let's take over sgg
instead of twitch plays hades, twitch develops hades
Hades is now a racing game and you Cannot stop us
Itโs obviously a musical rhythm game based on all your favorite broadway show tunes
twitch chat: add a semicolon
hades is now a skeleton themed farming sim, tend to your skull crops and harvest dem bones
hades is now a Battle Royale
Hades is now a match 3 candy crush style game
if you make a skeleton tall enough you can climb the ribs like a ladder out of hell
[Danny voice] In this episode, we capture the transition from a devoper led project... to an entirely Twitch run affair.
Twitch Develops Hell
pls no
Oh no the developers discovered the secret coup
Twitch time Babey
i call dibs drawing sprites for sappho
It's okay Aubrey it's all just a bad dream, tomorrow this will all be swept away in patch hype/discussion ๐
JGKGJG TRUE
be me
purchase new sgg game
hades
start game
you only start with a sword
fight through enemies, get zeus boon
boon shoots small projectiles when I hit things
get to first boss
meg
she beats me into oblivion
T H E R E I S N O E S C A P E
zagreus drops into blood pool
screen fades out
screen slowly fades in
hear logan's voice
||hey red, we're not gonna get away with this, are we?||
||supergiant games you did it again||
KDMCMFKFJFN
oh
Bamboozled
@hollow rock If you think THAT'S when I found the coup, go back and check those ๐ฑ reactions.
hypnos was messing with me the whole time!
wait did dr get to meg on his first run whuttttt
Tranzeustor
red didnt get away with it so sgg could
Le gaspppppp these developers have far too skilled a spymaster on their hands
I definitely didn't get to meg on my first run
I wish though
mg
is this the secret fighting pit in the sgg office i keep hearing about
she dance
she dev
but most importantly
pitmaster caitlin
f..ff.ight club.b..
Well if YA'LL are Supergiant now then.... anywhere you fight is the new pit right?
she spy master
omg shes so wise
the real fight pit is in our hearts
if hades becomes a battle royale is hades the pit???
Pitmaster Caitlin... thank you for this 
Caitlin, head of the Discord Intelligence Agency
OKAY further fun Supergiant Takeover discussion and Title Discrepancies must go to #off-topic-discussion
OKAY
oh no
Pitmaster Caitlin Has Spoken
XD
She's become too powerful
So this might just be a me thing, but when I first saw the Hades teaser, I totally thought that Zag was gonna be this snarky jackass with an inflated ego, but once I played I realized Zag was a very polite young man to people who donโt say โboyโ and โstupidโ in every other sentence I felt pleasantly surprised and kinda silly now
Zagreus is strong in the real way
I'm proud of one (1) boy
he's so GOOD
Wait but what about Cerberus
I love how Zag says "mate" all the time
i get like highkey defensive when people say he's a brat
He is Not---
Zag is a half dressed queer man with unrequited crushes and daddy issues I wonder why I love him so much
I feel as if they had to mellow out his edgy appearance with a solid personality
he had some real parental guidance and support stuctures just, you know, not from. hades.
zzag is...so good..
So good, the goodest good
I'll cry if Zag doesn't escape
Heโs almost... dare I say it... a gooder boy than Cerberus
zag rly....went thru hell...is going thru hell......and has the maturity to stand on his feet, be determined, and still be kind and im
๐ are you winning son
what if the ending of Hades is just the Entire Fandom showing up as wretches and carrying him out of hell
YEEEESSSSSSSSSSS
Lets go boys, we got a job to do
i've said it before and i'll say it again
hades: you will respect your elders, boy, and you'll respect me.
zag: hell no, screw you
achilles: you should show respect to others by default, lad, until they've done something to show they don't deserve it.
zag: yes sir
Okay let me interject because i feel as if we might be heading towards some kind of suicide cult
We are NOT going to hell just to help out
Heโs just a poor boy, nobodโ huh.โ 1068 people love himโ heโs just a poor boy from the richest family in existence
JHGVJHVJHGGBJGVJHFGHJGVHJ
But what if I WANNA go to hell to help out Mom???
:DDD
1068 people love him....
Omg you've made it
slhslhk
love but in green
Love but for Dusa
๐
Alternatively this means heโs Underswap Sans
..
was it underswap I can never remember all these AUs, the edgy one
underfell was edgy
Yeah
Underfell heโs Underfell sans
She's Strong
Because sheโs too cool for symmetry
actually no Azukis right
When I was trying to redesign her outfit for a modern setting the obvious avenue was hot topic
ksjslkjfhsf
She has like ten piercings
No, more
Oh gosh she has more
h-hello???
Hm? I didnโt think I said anything bad
Proxy,,,,,
Oh righttt
wha
I forgot about that sorryyy
HJFHJFHJFJH YEAH
sooo
I drew Meg and she was either a yoga mom too tired for Zagโs stuff or a butch bi with shaved sides
Do we know anymore than that,,,??
It just deletes the post, at least on my end @charred yoke
Wait we know that?? Cool!
Kam was keysmashing, RMB.
Oh we donโt! Cool!
i had sifted thru code for some gameplay additions, but I'm not allowed by community managers to speak about it
hahaha yeah
side note if you say a proxybanned word its deleted and stored in our log!
we see it forever.
omg
i was just wondering if there's some teaser story addition
Proxy is the censor bot
Proxy is trying it's best
Among other things
Proxy is Bouldey
Someone who runs a family friendly Discord and wants to protect it from angry people who swear a lot and brainless dunces like me who type too fast and skip over words
They have been together once, thats not the problem
Also, its family friendly to a degree
Zag and Achilles and Skelly OT3
woaghh
I wonder if the final game is gonna have a romance route(s)
That'd be fun, but like
I demand dating simulation
I hope not
I don't know if that fits with the games themes
i think it could be fun!
Let him date his weapons. I want friendship meters for weapons
Wasn't that asked in the Q&A at some point?/
So I'm thinking Cronus this guy for update https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cronus
zag's bed fits him and his dog
I mean, fun or not, it just feels out of place
Yeah ^
Especially since Meg is obviously the only correct choice
Since Achilles already said no
Not to be that guy but whenever anyone says Cronus, I think Cronus Ampora the incel from Homestuck
oh him
Iโm kinda hoping Achillesโ story is about helping him ||either get back with or get over Patrolocus||
Yeah, Achilles' deserves closure ๐
i hope we get a lovely reuniting 
Iโm really hoping it turns out to be Skelly
omg
Wait whatโs the significance of a ceiling mirror
PG, folks ๐
sweating
He never sleeps really
For which joke
sweats nervously
does zag just have a whole boob out
abt the mirror- if thats something not pg, it better not continue. keep it clean thanks!
fem zag
Fem zag when?
Cross through the mirror and everythingโs genderbent
April Fools ๐
Thatโs why Zag canโt see his reflection, because everyone there is the opposite gender
Digging optional Zag gender option
And itโs a secret to everybody
Would Nyx know a about this alternate universe???
They just look at CAOS .. ah my bad guys
I wanna see dude Megara
Fem skelly would be exactly the same but with a wig
a neir style bow
Dude Megaera would just be a Jojo character
and?
wait skelly has hair i
Yes
i see no problems
3000 year old spoiler
Dude Megara the Dude we deserve
i... feel obligated to draw this now
Im more interested in male Aphrodite
Eros
Because uh, covering up what needs to be covered up is a bit harder without the long hair
Just make the hair even longer
Yes
Everyone
Chaos stays the same since they don't have a gender, and have all genders at the same time. They're cool like that
yup
Chaos becomes slightly more masculine, slightly more feminine, slightly more neither, and slightly more both
Chaos' gender is Cool
The same being with the vaping baby on it's chest
Chaos' gender is Entropy
GRANDPA
Yknow, what would female Poseidon be like
But whatโs in your pants? Distain for my grandkids who never visit.
ooohhh......oooooohhhhh i could get into the idea of girl poseidon ๐ค
ariel......
... phrasing
girl aries ๐
Gasp
Girl Ares, eh?
hmmmmmmmmmmm
I already want her to Step on me
yes
GIRL HYPNOS 
OMG
kinda cute
Hypnos is always adorbs
correct
Girl Bouldy 
bow-ldy
I would give bouldy all my ambrosia no matter the gender
Bouldy already is a girl you fools
i.....you're so wise.....
Girl Hypnos would probably just look like Hypnos
hypnos but w some eyeliner
Nah, Bouldy is androckgenous
Girl Hypnos needs swirl glasses
correct
NO
What would Girl Hades look like though
screw hypnos
How igneous of you wight
Canon hypnos needs swirl glasses
you cant make her adorable
Thats the plan, Baby
Both Hypnos need swirl glasses
I need to be able to hate them easily
But yeah, Girl Hades is odd
hypnos gives you swirl glasses as another trinket....
Why would you hate Hypnos?
Somehow I cant imagine Hades without his beard
Mustache
Donโt worry youโll be able to hate them when they become the bonus boss because they know exactly how to fight
Who says a female cant have a moustache looking beard
Hades but as that shutterstock photo of the regal woman holding an owl.

omg
Hades becomes the singing lady from Greatest Showman
Wait what what is this shutterstock photo
But with the beard, I'm onboard non-comedically, she'd rock it.
What if Girl Hades just wore a fake beard
I'll try to find it!
Yayyy thanks
No itโs completely genuine 100% real
The mustache is so magnificent it transcends spacetime
Chaos made it so
Im just here for dude meg
The mustache is order, chaosโ antithesis
๐
Hades
Ok ok ok, but what about dude hydra
That is big hades energy
wait hydra has a gender wha
I was just messing around
I'm too trusting
XD
SGG won't let Zag smooch Hydra, which is a personal attack on me, specifically.
If only I didn't have math homework I'd be drawing this sobs
If only Hades wasnโt so addicting Iโd draw dude meg
Well, I just finished my midterm and have a paper draft due on Friday Iโm just actively avoiding work
mood
That would be a terrible thing to do nods
๐ค
No mom ๐ค
Test? Quiz? Same levels of anxiety
chem kills me either way
DO YOUR HOMEWORK OR IM STEALING YOUR ENTIRE ASS LAPTOP
sobs
UwU
guys please keep discussion on hades
Okay okay
I told you this would happen
I know I know
if you want to talk personal should probably go in private dms
Saaame, I got midterms this week and I've been procrastinating by just playing Hades instead
Whoops lol
you're on thin ice buddy
i have a day off so more time to play hades
I can't expect to play and know Thanatos. I want Hefestus in next update
I wonder what ||granny|| Demeterโs up to anyway
playing farm simulator b.c 703
Is there a debuff that shortens the length that bull rushes run?
I got hit with this weird thing during the hydra fight where by rushes moved a quarter to a third of normal
But this was the first time it happened
I've had a glitch where the full marker/path thing? didn't appear but I still went the full length
Thatโs p common for me
But the marker appeared, but shorter, and it only went that far as well
I wanna say it cost me that fight with the hydra, but I was probably gonna die anyway
That's.. weird
Yeah
I don't think theres any upgrade/debuff that does that either way
Actually my most recent win against the Hydra near the end of the fight my movement speed was suddenly slower, unless the Hydra gives debuffs and I never knew
Yeah, Iโm thinking itโs a bug
kjgdfhgd sorry pls no final boss spoilers here
spoilers and gameplay are fair game though ^^
Whoops didnโt realize the identity of it was a spoiler, sorryโ
no problem! ^^
its the twelfth of march
in uhhh some parts of the world, it sure is
I'm a new peeps, sup
hello
I lied, I'm sorry, I'm not a new peeps.
orz
can't wait to see the new crew
if the new furies are as RAD as Meg is
then i will be a happy man
sorry theyre only tubular
oh that is very S U B - O P T I M A L
Possibly groovy, gnarly, and or siiiiick
Tubular Is definitely superior to rad imo
potentially rockin sum SMOKIN' SEXY STYLE
Although SICKS SKILLS is also acceptable
but no SUBHUMAN
never subhuman
Honestly, I'm going to be happy with literally whatever pops up. Rad or Goofy, anything in between.
i wanna see if the new guy is Thanatos or Cronos
Timestop would be a great addition to the game
What is this, Kingdom Hearts crossover? You want Goofy? 
all i saying is that hades would greatly benefit from a style system
I think I can get behind that idea. Though I'm wondering how they would manifest that in the abilities?
ehhhh, maybe.
i joke
are infernal souls really useless or am i missing something
Though maybe slowing would be more balanced than straight stopping? I have no idea. Game balance is tough.
Infernal souls aren't useless but they are odd. One of the mirror upgrades makes them help you deal damage. Though I think they are rather weak without a boon.
Still, not enough experience to say anything definitive.
what are infernal souls?
that's the cast.
The mirror upgrade is called Infernal Soul
The item is called a Bloodstone, the ability is called Cast
Not to confuse anyone 
ah ok
ty for clearing up. Terminology isn't my strong suit.
like i thought u where talking bout a new item
But yes, your cast is an excellent utility. It provides a range attack when you don't have ranged option (looking at you, Sword), the Boiling Blood mirror upgrade provides up to a 50% (I think?) increase to damage done to enemies with a Bloodstone stuck in them, and there are various boons that wildly change the nature of your cast
Some Cast boons will override the function of Boiling Blood since they don't stick into enemies, though
zeus caaaast
I hate the sword. But only because I'm bad.
zeus attack may have been nerfed, but zeus cast is still great for clearing a room of small enemies like pests or numbskulls
like idk they feel really unbalanced compared to special and attack
Don't sleep on Cast! At minimum, it's a free 50 damage
not strong, limited use
I always open boss fights with unloading all my casts into the enemy
Same. It's free damage with added utility. If it was op then weapon choice wouldn't matter.
I mean, Cast builds are a thing
I imagine there are dash builds as well, but I definitely couldn't do it.
Yup
Zeus Dash is probably by far the easiest to pull off
I just had one yesterday, I think it was, that basically carried my entire AR run with Zeus Dash
Imagine doing a special build lol
Bow Special build is really powerful with the right boons
Same with Spear
Sword Special build was the first Sword victory I ever had
btw i don't have the game yet
i just heard that specials are bad
at least a patch ago
I just don't have the patience for Sword. I just want to hit stuff forever, but then I stay too long and die.
That's kind of old opinions, in my opinion. They've done a lot to bring Specials on par with everything else
I don't like gun special, but I can see it being good for somebody
It's not my favourite, but some people like it. It requires a bit of work, in my opinion, to be equal to the rest. It's also the newest weapon, so hasn't had as much time to get polished and balanced as the rest
AR special is best with a mouse, I think
ye
Right now its mostly about hit and run with the gun
because you can hit stuff super far away w/ the special
Bow is still the best weapon in the game, in my opinion and for my playstyle
i wonder if they could make move while firing
I haven't used the gun enough, what exactly are the quirks in question? I only recognized that it felt kind of off.
well one annoying thing is that it auto reloads when you run out of ammo
whats ur wet dream build for the bow @prisma wind
and you can get caught int he reload animation and cant dash for like
half a second
and thats a huge deal with max whipped frenzy
i like the gun special coz you can put it on spawning monsters
kill them 1 second after they spawn
Ohhhhh so that's what was happening! Thanks for the info QB
Inappropriate way to ask for this server @muted lintel ๐ But typically Hunter Dash, Athena Attack, Chaos to increase Dash Attack and/or Attack, Urge to Kill, Pressure Points, Clean Kill (if we're going full-on dream)

I don't try to force builds, however. I have fun just taking whatever gods come up and trying to make it work
I haven't played for too long, but that's the way I've been taking it.
While I don't quite like all the boons, nothing feels useless at least.
I hate athenas dash with a passion
like it kills runs for me on high heat because I cant play with it
It definitely takes timing. It's not my favourite either
Okay yeah, forgot that one. I will never take it again, it's just too hard to adjust too on the fly.
Still, probably someone's favorite
Hey, question, how many of y'all take time to destroy pillars in Asphodel? Particularly at the start of combat? Don't let that free
go to waste!
The first 3-5 pillars will always drop
, though I think there's some damage/spawn cutoff where they stop dropping
Hence, beginning of combat
I've noticed that but never paid enough attention to figure out the cutoffs. It's definitely helpful!
they take too long to break so i generally ignore them >>
I like any excuse to mash the attack button so it's win-win for me.
It's nicest with the Bow or AR since you have spam attacks that break them fast. The big pillars take 10 hits, the smaller take 9
It appreciably increases my
stocks in Asphodel
Hi new here excited for upcoming Hades update
Welcome!
Welcome! And same!
Welcome!
Cheers buddy ๐
What do you think we'll be getting in terms of gameplay?
Pretty much no one expected the rail in Dio update
well we still have one more olympian to go, but i doubt they'll be in this one
i wouldnt be shocked tbh if the three new characters and whatever systems they're a part of are the bulk of this update, along with a smattering of the usual conversation progressions
It'd be nice to finally have the other existing npc sprites finished out
But considering how much art had to go into these three new characters, presumably, again i'm not sure that'll be happening now
I'd love more rooms in the entry area, but I wouldn't say I'm expecting it.
I can hardly wait to get home from work tomorrow. You'll all probably be hours deep into the new game content by then
College is on spring break right on time. If it's out in the next 6 hours, I'm starting then.
same, ill be in class most of the day so ill probly come home to a lot of discord chat to look forward to
you guys better have some good memes ready
crashes in at the speed of sound

I just found this game and I have two VERY important questions
- I own every other Supergiant Game, and I'm not sure if I want to buy this one in Early Access. DO I WAIT OR JUST PULL THE TRIGGER?! ._.
- WHERE can I listen to that awesome track from the YouTube trailer because that got me PUMPED


