really excited to see what they do with nyx and arthemis
#h1-discussion
analog mantle
analog mantle
how do you guys feel about needing 100+ interactions to unlock the next level of friendship? i've spent a good amount of time in the game and i'm not even close to achieving that
is it overkill on purposed cause the content is not there yet or is this intended to be like that because as a roguelite you're going to be talking to them a lot because you're going to do a lot of runs?
calm delta
I think it's the latter
calm delta
I just hope you don't have to talk to them 1500 time after that to unlock the next level like with the infernal arms
gusty pike
@analog mantle I’m 30 away for Hades pretty excited about that.
analog mantle
to be fair you kill a lot more wretches than you talk to people
calm delta
So like
analog mantle
im sure you're tired of hearing him complain about you
calm delta
To gift them more ichor, you have to unlock their next level of conversation first
Also, I don't know if anyone else said this but Zagreus is extremely hot
gusty pike
I listen to podcast or audiobooks why I play. If there no ! I don’t care what they say
analog mantle
everyone always everywhere has said it
calm delta
He also kinda looks like buff Karkat
analog mantle
the second the game came out
the first thing i said
was that they made karkat hot
calm delta
Extremely hot
analog mantle
that was the first joke i made about it
gusty pike
I have so many nectar of the gods and keys just sitting in my inventory now. Can’t wait for the next content update. I hope they don’t Strip our progress away in the update. Some early access games have done that
analog mantle
they did say specifically that they'll try to avoid that
gusty pike
That would be nice I would hate for all my work to just disappear.
honest raft
huh, hades' trailer has nearly 3 million views
grand jewel
wat
honest raft
and marketing from epic
grand jewel
what version of the trailer
little fable
So uhm...I asked yesterday about how to open the codex, and it still doesn't work for me, so I don't think I have it, and I talked to Achilles a bunch of times. Should I just start over?
I'm not even sure how to report this because it's so long back and I don't know what messed up
grand jewel
guessing holding C doesn't work then
little fable
LB doesn't either
grand jewel
yeah just report that in hades-feedback
brisk trail
On a side note about Epic. It nearly put me off from purchasing the game due to the questionable nature of Epic's parent company Tencent and I've seen discussion threads on websites questioning the decision to put it on only Epic.
olive jungle
If you'd like to have discussions about Epic games, please do so in #off-topic-discussion
brisk trail
Alright.
olive jungle
thanks!
little fable
Time to start over from scratch 
little fable
oh I only turned my PC on half an hour ago so it should be up to date
little fable
the wiki says achilles gives you the codex after your third attempt, but I just died for the third time and he's not there
amber helm
Sometimes the characters are talking between them
And I don't know if it counts as the same
little fable
I got the codex now 😃
One thing I noticed is that it mentions that Daedalus is in Elysium which makes me think we'll meet him in person once we get there
lucid prism
Are there any plans of releasing a set of wallpapers from Hades? Honestly I fell in love with the artstyle
calm delta
And Zagreus' pecs
little fable
why does skelly still have a coin in his mouth? Isn't that for paying Charon, but he's already in the underworld so why didn't Charon take the coin
lucid prism
@calm delta that too 
olive jungle
maybe that's skelly's salary haha
olive jungle
Hades saves to the documents folder on your computer. sometimes antivirus programs will block that folder
Try turning your antivirus off and see if it works then
calm delta
I can't wait to see what they're going to do with Nyx
brisk trail
Whenever I see the name Nyx.
I think of dota2 Nyx Nyx Nyx Nyx
alpine stratus
i think of the makeup store jfjgngjg
alpine stratus
nyx buys zag nailpolish from there
alpine stratus
once nyx has a sprite someone gotta cosplay her and go shopping there jfjgjg
void vigil
i looked there now and they have a purple matte lipstick the same color as her sprite rn sdkjfhsk
vale kite
if anything they all go to hot topic
odd granite
man I want to play this damn game so bad haha
I won't be able to purchase it until Friday... until then, I'm just gonna paint a buncha fan art lol
alpine stratus
nightsalt is what the nightwings' gossip group chat is called
odd granite
νυξάλας
What is this moonspeak?
wanders on over to google transalate
well that didn't help at all xD
olive jungle
it's greek 😂 nyx means night and is also the root for the latin "nox" which also means night, which is what greg used when he came up with the name for the nightwings in pyre - "noxalas"
odd granite
oooh
odd granite
I know this isn't the place, but I just gotta say that Pyre is a goddamned gorgeous game.
just sayin
vagrant leaf
Sooo..... I made this.....
https://imgur.com/3zoxZlI
odd granite
LOL
olive jungle
oh Perfect
odd granite
is that like.... Medusa with a feather duster?
is it so she can dust all her stone statues?
odd granite
I do not own the game, friend :]
olive jungle
she's great and i love her
odd granite
I should probably vacate this channel, really. I have no business being here besides the fact that I want to play the game really damn badly lol
olive jungle
i mean you're welcome to hang out, there won't be too many spoilers here but 😂
odd granite
I'll freely admit like.... probably 30% of why I want to play the game is because Zagreus is an attractive piece of man.
not gonna lie
olive jungle
that's also valid
like lbr sgg's stories are great but jen's art is a solid 35% of the equation at least
just like darren and ashley
it wouldn't be an sgg game without them
olive jungle
and she just keeps getting better
odd granite
yeah it's nuts
olive jungle
the progress from game to game is incredible
odd granite
I tried to emulate her style in my last Fan Art but it's not easy. It's just so clean
but she has years and years ahead of me so hopefully I'll get to that point eventually. I've really only started taking painting/illustration seriously the past 2 months or so
olive jungle
so far with the environments in Hades i'm really enjoying that we get a blend of the more naturalistic stuff from Pyre and the more designed, architectural, embellished stuff from Transistor
Transistor was my favorite of the three games in terms of environmental design and atmosphere and this feels closer to that, for which i am Overjoyed
odd granite
Transistor was great. I loved the futuristic art deco style
alpine stratus
yesss the tartarus rooms are v goth cloudbank!!!
vale kite
GOTH CLOUDBANK
odd granite
it was like someone took Frank Lloyd Wright and smashed it together with Blade Runner
for Transistor haha
and by someone I mean Jen Zee lol
alpine stratus
jen zees art is so inspiring like....the painterly quality......the Environmental personality..... the AMOUNT AND VOLUME SHE CAN DO IN SO SHORT A TIME 🙇 ❗
(and also all the new artists ofc who im sure sped things up for hades yeeeesss!!!!)
odd granite
the Volume is the part that especially impresses me
but that's something that comes with a lot of practice
alpine stratus
JEN ZEE DID A WHOLE BASTION
odd granite
how many extra artists do they have?
and who are they so I can fawn over them as well
I'm always in the market for more artist crushes
alpine stratus
go fawn on @modest dirge !!
odd granite
can do
you should go check #fan-works btw. I posted a couple of my fan art there o3o
though you'll have to scroll up a bit for the first one I posted
ripe violet
I haz question. What happens when I get all the keys I need for all abilities? Does anyone know? Granted, it's a bit early for me to worry about it, I havent even beaten Meg yet ;~;
odd granite
oh it looks like you saw the first one I posted @alpine stratus 💖
ripe violet
I mean, rather, do they still show up as rewards for room options?
ripe violet
Well then. I feel like that's something that could certainly be addressed, but at the same time, I'm not sure what they could be replaced with once you get to that point, without... affecting the power balance, per say.
olive jungle
it's in EA and we're kinda playing it a lot more than intended lol
if it were finished there'd probably be more stuff to do but, for now it is kinda irritating
vagrant leaf
Its already in the list, dont worry
ripe violet
Another question, that I'm curious about, though to be fair, I might just have to git gud. Are the bosses like... dead cells, was, in the earlier access? Gates, preventing you from seeing the end of content unless you were really good? I only ask because... I have tried to fight meg so many times. xD And I havent beaten her once.
digital lava
How to beat Meg. Easy version.
Max out backstab in the mirror. Max out Quick Temper.
Take the bow as your weapon.
Get Artimis' dash.
Get Hades' basic attack boost.
You win!
ripe violet
Hades gives you a blessing?
vale kite
i dont find the bow really practical against meg
digital lava
It doesn't have to be the bow.
vale kite
or maybe i suck
digital lava
It can be any weapon.
vale kite
ye
prime harness
practice with it
vale kite
i like the spear
digital lava
Just focus on getting as much damage as possible.
prime harness
its good
digital lava
That's the real key in this game. You want to focus on damage over everything.
At least, right now.
vagrant leaf
Meg is still beatable by even the most trashiest builds
digital lava
With the bow and the right boons you can easily get to the point of one shotting almost everything you see.
prime harness
yup she has pretty easy patterns
digital lava
I mean, you could imagine alternate builds which are about like, having really good damage reduction, or really fast attack speed or really good health restoration.
prime harness
depends on what u want i guess
digital lava
But they don't exist / are bad.
vagrant leaf
LOL
digital lava
Or at least they're no where near as good as just having super duper high damage.
vagrant leaf
good health restoration
bad
like the most broken and braindead thing in the game right now
is lifesteal sword
prime harness
wouldent say most broken
vagrant leaf
I say
prime harness
its still far more tedious then bow imo
vagrant leaf
its tedious yes, but you can just stand and tank the hole hydra zero effort
digital lava
Hey, do you stop getting keys when you've unlocked everything? Or do you guys just all have like hundreds of unused keys?
vagrant leaf
no dashing or anythig
olive jungle
you just keep getting keys lol
digital lava
Boo!
vagrant leaf
just spam attack on everything you see
prime harness
bow is far more broken tbh, in tartarus for instance i could do survival room without a single mob ever moving from when they spawned
vagrant leaf
Its strong but it requires at lest some amount of thinking to play
with sword you just cant die unless you want to
prime harness
half the time i just point blank fire shots
with artemis dash u dont even have to do power shot half the time
vagrant leaf
you still take damage
digital lava
Dash->Shoot->Dash->Shoot->Dash->Shoot. One shot everything.
prime harness
nope im talking 0 dmg till meg
vagrant leaf
I know dammit
prime harness
on a new save
digital lava
Everything is strong with artemis. Crits are good, because damage is king.
vagrant leaf
Im just sayin that the swords lifesteal is braindead
digital lava
I've never even been offered lifesteal...
vagrant leaf
when you try, you'll see
prime harness
ive tried every weapon mate
vagrant leaf
not to you
prime harness
and yes lifedrinker is insane too but u still need to acutally get it
with bow most options are just far easyer to manage
digital lava
Anyway, this wasn't meant to be a "best builds" thing.
I was just trying to say the easy way to beat Meg if you're still new.
And the answer is damage.
prime harness
nah but the game does need some rebalancing
digital lava
Because the faster you kill stuff the less damage you take / fewer times you have to dodge.
vagrant leaf
Well with bow you need 1 upgrade to make it broken
with sword too
but with sword you dont need to think
ripe violet
I want spear to be so much better than it is. I love using a spear in games whenever I can, but it's just so hard to use in this game.
brisk trail
Spear is very good with a lot of it’s upgrades
vagrant leaf
yup
prime harness
do u use the charge spin with dash?
digital lava
I beat the hydra with spear using the special.
brisk trail
Same, but the regular attack is also good
digital lava
I had Aphrodite on special and the Aphrodite upgrade to do bonus damage to weakened foes.
brisk trail
As is the throw
prime harness
fast spin can get pretty ridiculous
brisk trail
Yup
mighty path
I had Aphro on attack and the same upgrade, also crits after dash, ez hydra
brisk trail
If you can make the spin crit then it’s gg haha
digital lava
What do you guys think are the toughest enemies?
mighty path
I just think there's a bit too many armored enemies in act 2
prime harness
none are tough but more annoying
mighty path
^
digital lava
Skull piles probably eat more of my health than any other enemy.
prime harness
then ide say skelebombs
digital lava
If I don't have the right upgrades.
ripe violet
What happens after you beat the Hydra?
digital lava
GG
mighty path
It's over.
brisk trail
Bomb throwing skeletons because they litter the screen a lot and can clip you unexpectedly with a lot of damage
mighty path
For now.
digital lava
That's the end of the content so far.
digital lava
Oh...
brisk trail
Armoured bloodless can be annoying if you can’t one hit them
digital lava
Don't piss off athena in act 2 then.
mighty path
you can knock the thrown bombs back with deflect
digital lava
Bloodless with defelect is no fun.
digital lava
You can't bless the same button twice right/
Like you can't have Athena blessing on Special and also get Ares blessing on special?
vagrant leaf
yup
mighty path
Yeah, but you can still augment the attack with basic upgrades like "damage to attack +x%"
digital lava
Sure and with the hammer.
mighty path
Yeah, Ares can also do that if I remember correctly
digital lava
Also I assume someone has put together a wiki with all of the upgrades in it?
prime harness
some are working on a wiki yes
mighty path
I don't think they have yet, at least didn't find a few days ago.
mighty path
Yeah, figured as much
vagrant leaf
prime harness
or to get some space:p
prime harness
i love the artemis one tho
mighty path
Artemis is pretty good as well
prime harness
yeah if u can get lucky and find everything has chance to crit , it can do some serious dmg
mighty path
Yeah
prime harness
was my first go to for hydra heads tbh:p
mighty path
The first time I beat hydra I got lucky cause I got so many damage resistance upgrades and weak + more damage to weak, it was a breeze.
prime harness
yeah some of those boons are very good
digital lava
I think the zeus cast upgrade is good.
Bounce cast.
I think last time i got it it was at epic rarity though. And then I got the epic "extra lightning" Zeus buff too...
wooden lance
Poseidon’s attack upgrade on the shield 
granite field
Hey what god are y’all hoping gets added
Like for boons and stuff
My top two are Apollo and Hephaestus
gritty roost
I wonder if they could find room for Eris in the mix: I'd be really fascinated to see how she fits into the mythology of this game 😃
granite field
Oh that would be cool!
She’d probably join the house, I’m not sure what for though
digital lava
Hermes, more dashes, further dashes, faster dashes.
Faster move speed.
Teleports?
gritty roost
Maybe Eris could upgrade the enemies and you get more rewards for fighting them? Kind of like what they did in Bastion and Transistor with the gods and limiters.
I like the idea of Hermes giving you more speed and Dash upgrades
Or reduced cool down times after using Specials?
wooden lance
I really think thanatos might be a boss maybe
topaz estuary
Thanatos would make sense as a boss
swift torrent
I just want to say thank you to you all! So far so good and all "SGG game" core elements (art, audio, gameplay) are, as always before ;), on point.
Also I have a quick question - if I would like to write a little bit lenghty feedbacl should I post it in #hades-feedback-closed or do you prefer an "OG" email way?
digital lava
Hey, does anyone know what each of the legendary boons are?
Ahhh! They're the last boons in the upgrade chain.
swift torrent
^ Hey, that is a bit spoiler-y...
vital pier
I wouldn't say its a spoiler since legendary boons aint a plot element
light fog
pulsar raft
Just played for the first time and I'm already hooked
brisk trail
Its so awesome
Welcome to the community!
Might be Supergiant's best yet
Bout to hop in for a run
Any fun builds I should try?
Spear.
Range Upgrade.
Poseidon Boon
Literally untouchable
topaz estuary
I still need the conch for that
But yeah, I enjoy the bow and shield best, with Aphrodite's boons
Or, True Shot/Phalanx Shot and lots of casting
The slight bit of homing helps casting so much
winter echo
Hard to go wrong with Pos
brisk trail
Tempest Strike, Tempest Flourish, Typhoon's Fury
Breaking wave is also good if you can get it
With the spear and Tempest Flourish, whenever you get swarmed you just use your special to instantly get out
storm rune
can't wait for the next update 😃 on the other hand, that leaves we with more time to max all mirror upgrades and unlock all lore 😄
brisk trail
got tempest strike and typhoons fury
@brisk trail by range upgrade did you mean the one that deals more damage to distant foes
Yes
Honestly Poseidon's my favorite.
Which is great cause Water is my favorite element
storm rune
@brisk trail when I just want to win a run, I choose the polearm with Aprodite's trinket. With a little luck you get the "+attack damage + weak" boon, then in the second realm you chose Artemis for the "dash + crit". Even if you don't get the crit, you should just be able to hold on attack to charge to full, then just hit your dash key without releasing it. What happens is that you'll do your fully charged attack at the end of your dash. Its super easy to end up behind your target for backstab + dash attack bonuses and some absurd damage. One-shooting close to everything and making both bosses super easy.
brisk trail
i havent even reached hyrda yet
😄
im just taking it slow because i dont wanna run out of content
storm rune
do what I said and you'll likely get there in no time 😃
the rest is just learning the encounters
brisk trail
Getting World Splitter on the Blade
and then Urge to Kill from Ares
And then Hunter Dash from Artemis
You just turn into a walking nuke
muted tide
What's the big update gonna be?
brisk trail
We dont know yet
im guessing maybe a new character and updated portraits for the robed characters
as well as a ton of balancing and bug fixes
maaaybe a new weapon
gritty roost
I had a great run with the sword: I got deflection for the Nova Burst early on, then stacked that with the greater area of effect & damage, plus the Blade Rift dash from Ares, which also got greater range 😃 Really satisfying combo
ripe violet
I finally beat meg. Was getting through asphodel really easy. Then I got on a moving platform with crystals that shield the bombers.... beat the bombers... then got swarmed xD
little fable
the only time I've beaten the boat battle was also the only time I've beaten Hydra and also the only time I've even reached Hydra
but now I had to start over with a new save and were I just got every weapon unlocked
topaz estuary
I've never bested the Hydra yet 😦
tepid wedge
boat battle is trivial with OP life leech sword
topaz estuary
Gotten it to 10% health but no further
tepid wedge
everything is trivial with that tho 😂
winter echo
Boat battle used to be longer @_@
amber garden
I dont want a longer boat battle. 3 waves is quit eenough
brisk trail
boat battle?
topaz estuary
The third boss battle
digital lava
Nah.
But if you get a skull room late into asphodel it's a level on a boat through the lava
little fable
what replaces the bomb skeleton miniboss in Asphodel
digital lava
I just got tripple shot in the 1st room and Artemis dash in like, maybe the third room...
I was like... "Oh, ok, dead hydra then."
topaz estuary
(First is bombers, second is Meg, third is boat, fourth is hydra)
brisk trail
Wow, everyone is so far already! I feel like I'm slacking off by taking a game break to work 😅
little fable
I think you can also not get the bombers or the boat
brisk trail
Bombers and Boat are skippable if you just avoid going into rooms labelled with skulls.
little fable
yeah so counting them as bosses is weird
brisk trail
They are more...
void vigil
They’re a big difficulty spike when you first get to them
brisk trail
Well I guess the bombers are mini bosses and the boat is just an event?
But yeah
they are meant to be rather hard.
little fable
I'd call both minibosses
brisk trail
Unique rooms I guess you could call them?
digital lava
Anyway, I'm probably done with Hades for 30 days.
little fable
but calling them bosses would just confuse everyone because most people would count 1 - Meg, 2 - Hydra
digital lava
I pretty much win every time now.
I'd call them "elites"
Since they're actually just regular enemies with armour.
brisk trail
But you can also get elite rooms aside from the bombers/boat
granite field
Mini bosses?
brisk trail
^
analog mantle
i would say elite room cause there's a chance they're not minibosses like when the two bombers appear, sometimes it's just a bunch of armored enemies
brisk trail
elites are the official names for enemies with armor
little fable
^
exotic storm
sigh
this is driving me crazy
it doesn't save my progress
i disabled my antivirus
snow mortar
amber garden
that sucks (
azure edge
Oh man. I just beat the Bone Hydra after four hours of gameplay, and I'm left absolutely ravenous for more!
Good stuff, Supergiant.
azure edge
I just may. Maybe I'll finally give the aegis a fair shot.
I've always gone bow since it's so much more powerful than the other options, when combined with dash buffs.
The other weapons are fun too, but I've never been able to get good damage output out of the aegis.
placid elk
101 runs - 3 killed Hydra -_-
cerulean pagoda
Also this is a dumb thing to congratulate Hades on: but good on Hades for not having DRM
thorn sand
how do you know how many runs you've done? are killed hydras counted as escape attempts?
cerulean pagoda
I think there's a small little bowl next to your bed that tells you how many runs you've attempted and how many you've killed.
azure edge
Does it show your kills?
cerulean pagoda
You have to buy it from Charon's cauldron first, if I remember right.
thorn sand
yeah, have 75 attempts right now, does that count hydra kills or are those seperate?
i know it shows hydra kills when you kill him
seeing if 75 includes all the kills
azure edge
I only have one kill so far, that may be why. Still newish.
hexed smelt
the scrying bowl shows your total attempts
waxen ravine
The bowl shows all foes killed. Not just hydra.
cerulean pagoda
I think all the kills just count as one
hexed smelt
yeah
hexed smelt
total attempts, total foes killed
cerulean pagoda
The only differentiation it does is with which weapons you've done your runs in.
waxen ravine
Hydra kills will be shown when you get back from killing it.
thorn sand
yeah wasn't interested in foes killed, was just trying to calculate ratio of atempts to hydras slain
almost at a 50/50 split then lmao
cerulean pagoda
You just gotta kill Hydra again, then,
thorn sand
i know what i'm at on hydras, 33 right now
waxen ravine
I have 53/103
coral thistle
rip life drinker
karmic basalt
^ 🙏
hexed smelt
oooooh snap
coral thistle
what does "normalized base power level" mean again?
nimble harness
Well, I was talking about a nerf for Life Drinker, I guess that's one
coral thistle
it sounds like they'll bring it back eventually if they can rebalance it tho
tepid wedge
was op but I really liked that heal 😢
glad fossil
That was really too powerful 😄
late crown
i already miss it
void vigil
🇫
coral thistle
yeah man life drinker was op as all hell lol
hexed smelt
in fairness, it's hard to balance a healing effect in a game that kinda relies on the concept of healing not being a thing you have ready access to
late crown
yep
upper bobcat
only hydra kill I've ever had
forest cargo
Can I just not update until they bring it back?
upper bobcat
I don't think it'll be back
late crown
i facetanked literally everything with life drinker and revenge life gain
nimble harness
To be fair, an upgrade that lets you heal yourself in a game where healing should be a valuable and rare ressouce was broken to begin with
glad fossil
life drinker could remove 2 max HP per room, or drink your life itself until combat is over
hexed smelt
fyce you literally reworded what i said lmao
late crown
some mirror upgrades are too powerful
coral thistle
'drink life itself until combat is over'
this is interesting
hasty frost
aphro nerfs 
nimble harness
Oh, yeah, was typing and I didn't read you 😄
coral thistle
a constant drain that incentivizes quick kills
but yeah idk
i don't think we'll see it back
or if we do it'll be heavily modified
tepid wedge
at least I could play with it in EA, that's something, was fun 😄
late crown
😄
upper bobcat
yeah, though my mouse certainly didn't appreciate it
hasty frost
i havent touched sword so rip me using that
but i used pre nerf shield so thats :^)
void vigil
constant drain is interesting
glad fossil
SGG got ideas, they try things, break somes, repair somes, I like those experiments. Gotta try again dieing 😄
void vigil
zag's B-mode
analog mantle
pre nerf shield was so good
upper bobcat
my life drinker run was basically summed up by "clickclickclicketyclick"
late crown
didnt play pre nerf shield
storm schooner
I managed to pull a muscle playing too much hades on my computer. XD
cerulean pagoda
Pre-nerf shield was insane
late crown
but i dont like shield right now
upper bobcat
pull what muscle geez
void vigil
oh noooo
storm schooner
I was too agressive with the joystick fighting the monsters 😄
upper bobcat
oof
storm schooner
Forearm
void vigil
rip
upper vigil
hey hey, if any dev friends have a sec, would it be possible to clarify "normalized" power level for sweet surrender/sure footing?
vale drift
@upper vigil Normalized just means the variance was removed
storm schooner
I love the Neptune spell. ❤
tepid wedge
aphrodite boons hurt me more than life drain tbh, I kinda expected life drain to be gone 😄
vale drift
Though admittedly we could be less ambiguous about in what way. It could either mean 'avg. power level is now higher' or 'avg. power level is now lower'
upper vigil
ah, ok
vale drift
To give a specific example
upper vigil
yeah, I was reading as having to do with increasing/decreasing the average amount as opposed to just saying "it's just the same flat percent always"
thanks for the response
vale drift
Aphrodite's Sweet Surrender previously had a min/max of 10% - 15%; now it's normalized to 10% (so this specific change was a reduction in overall power level)
brisk trail
Patch notes are up on reddit and the wiki 
vale drift
I try to balance clarity with succinctness of patch notes and don't love 'normalized' since it doesn't indicate whether the thing got better or worse on average, but it may not be something we do that often. Appreciate the feedback on this.
brisk trail
Gotta go fast
coral thistle
@vale drift is it intentional that the game patch notes include the bit about the coin purse text clarification but the discord ones don't?
vale drift
It's not intentional and I think Morgan will add it to the Discord version.
coral thistle
oki was wondering. thanks!
plain ridge
Ha just finished my first time hydra with some vampirism blade skill and aphrodite boon lvl 3 on simple attack... (it was op for sure) Well think I'll have to work on my own skill for a second finish.. Maybe?
brisk trail
Hope they bring it back
Just balanced better
Life steal can be hard to balance honestly
tepid wedge
you can't really balance that
brisk trail
It normally ends up too OP or too underpowered
tepid wedge
as it was mentioned before
plain ridge
I know I think I had a taste of the most newbie op build.
tepid wedge
game is too much about limited ways to heal
nimble harness
Aphrodite attack buff was nerfed from 50 to 20%. Dayum
half surge
Life steal in a roguelike is really hard to do well if you don;t have limits on it
tepid wedge
now that you say that, it was kinda okay in Dead Cells imo 🤔
half surge
Like even if it was +1hp, that's like loads if you think about how much you can steal per room vs the +3 you get when leaving a room
inner sentinel
Dang. I mean, the weakness condition is pretty strong - enemies doing half damage practically doubles your HP if you can hit enemies with it before they get you. But still. Dang.
plain ridge
Yea life steal lack and in the meantime I agree it may be hard to balance
half surge
Dead cells has health values in the 100s so it's easier to do I guess
And also you have the flask heal anyway
Which is "free"
Vs in hades you have to buy your health, or find it from a fountain
So lifesteal is way better in hades
tepid wedge
True
also it healed more
in dead cells I could only heal like +5 and I had like 600 hp iirc
mid game
nimble harness
Normal Attack Boons buffs:
Aphrodite: +20%
Poseidon: +30%
Athena: +40%
Aphrodite went from best to worst in that aspect 😮
plain ridge
Is there not a counterattack which is meant to heal you? I do not understand how activate it
tepid wedge
I guess everyone preferred her, lol 😄
half surge
@plain ridge on the third hit of the 3 hit combo on the sword
tepid wedge
counteracttack only heals part of the damage
plain ridge
No I mean on the skill tree
tepid wedge
that's a different thing
idk sounded too complicated to try 😄
u have to attack right after you get hit
that is pretty limited heal
plain ridge
@tepid wedge this one yes. Yes I struggle too to made it work
hallow lark
I did some crazy stuff with the lifesteal before even realising it - the Ares curse on attack was hitting for 82 (it was an epic one I think)
if I put the curse on with the thrust attack, I'd get 10% of that back, so 8hp
plain ridge
Well what mean right after indeed
hallow lark
once I understood what was happening, that run was in the bag lol
unkempt storm
Guess I started playing just before a patch hit. Came to say that while Bloodthirst is ovbiously amazing, Bloodthirst Ares is just disgusting. The curse damage from the thrust also heals you, giving an astonishing +10 heal all the god damn time.
mint forum
I didn't even know lifedrinker was a thing before it got taken away XD
unkempt storm
and ye, Lifedrinker*. Always forget
plain ridge
Well I think life drinker was somewhat gamebreaker
fiery pebble
Its a crutch
nimble harness
The life drain from Ares was very likely an overlook/bug tbh
fiery pebble
But once youre good enough, its benefit is pretty insignificant compared to a lot of upgrades
unkempt storm
Don't worry, there's still Hunter's Dash Bow
tepid orchid
Don't worry, there's still Hunter Dash in general
brisk trail
Pour one out for the homie life drinker
night plaza
I'm not nearly patient enough to use the spear special
I just charge it and dash into my enemies
analog mantle
yea my bad
fiery pebble
Which isnt actually the special
upper vigil
lol in another conversation I just made that exact slip
analog mantle
i misread
analog mantle
i just think of the special as spearthrow
coral thistle
lmao rip morgan
fiery pebble
It was already good, but then they buffed it even more
upper vigil
I'm too speed-oriented
fiery pebble
Easy 500+ damage to enemies in a line
upper vigil
it's really hard to kill things fast with it
upper vigil
man I dunno I have not seen a build with the spear special that I could make it feel good at all
upper vigil
I'm glad you have then
fiery pebble
Yeah
coral thistle
^ yeah that too lol
coral thistle
but throw = special and spin = hold-click
upper vigil
there's a hammer upgrade to increase it by like 500%
coral thistle
o dang
fiery pebble
Add the fact that special upgrades give a bigger increase
upper vigil
that has always existed
analog mantle
i've never seen that hammer upgrade
fiery pebble
Add that it has 2 upgrades that give it essentially 100% extra damage
One of which turns it into crit
upper vigil
I like seeing that things one person thinks are no good are found to be perfectly functional for others
fiery pebble
Add some good Artemis boons, and there you go
upper vigil
I don't really care for the spear special playstyle so I'm not likely to try making more of it
but that's cool
fiery pebble
I like it, because the return is super-satisfying
And its probably the safest playstyle in the game
upper vigil
I really enjoy the bow special build, although it's a little bit dicier now that there isn't just a huge bunch of hit lag every time you use it lol
fiery pebble
Bow special is janky, but seems to be a decent boss killer
upper vigil
it reminds me of like
meteorain in FF7, or sazh's blitz in FF13
a multi-hit, many-target attack that you ideally just want to use on one target because then it does broken amounts of damage
dashing up behind the [redacted] and just unleashing a torrent of arrows into it
is pretty effective
hexed smelt
ah yes, the good old shotbow technique
fiery pebble
I do wonder though, with more levels in the future
Maybe you cant upgrade just one move
And instead have to diversify
night plaza
Oh lol yeah I was also confused about spear special
Pretty much just dashing around blowing up
I prefer deflecting
Giant untouchable tornado
Doesn't it already get very close to forcing you to diversify already
Like Poseidon's non-buff boon is garbage
Err non-ability
fiery pebble
Eh, so far you can lean heavily into just one move
little fable
yes I'm hoping that diversifying will become more needed
upper vigil
I don't mind it being viable to focus on one thing in one run
as long as you can switch viably from run to run
I'm not sure whether I'd rather have it that you can always choose whichever thing you want to do on a given run, and get enough boons that you're able to use that thing
or have it that you can pick a weapon but whether you do attack/special/dash/cast will be determined by the boons you get
and you just have to roll with that
I see merits to both kinds of design
night plaza
I think so far all the weapons except the shield (which I might just be bad at) have pretty reasonable progression unless you get super boned on boons
upper vigil
shield is uh
upper vigil
I got a clear with some real sketchy boons
fiery pebble
But you basically have to use just the basic attack
Charge-attack maybe too
Special is worthless
night plaza
I've had a lot of fun playing with it but I haven't killed morg with it yet
Yeah, I mostly just dash back and forth trying to backstab with it
upper vigil
special is uh
it's serviceable
the special damage boons are like
ludicrous%
so you can kinda just
force it to work
upper vigil
I had a clear where my main damage sources were athena dash + shield special up 263%
fiery pebble
Because as it turns out, 300% bonus on 15 damage is still only 45 damage
Well, 60 since its +300%
Thats low
At that point dash + attack is still more damage
upper vigil
hm, is it possible to post a link to this here? let's find out
that was a build I got a clear with
just spamming dash and special
it was something
night plaza
I feel like Athena's buffs are good for practically all builds
analog mantle
yeah but poseidon gives bounty
fiery pebble
Its good for roomclear because of wall-smash, cornered and traps
livid herald
Poseidon's special knockback is pretty great with the bow though
night plaza
Yeah, def great with the bow
livid herald
Got me through the hydra
fiery pebble
If you hit Meg with a knockback
And she dashes into a wall
You get wallsmash damage
analog mantle
yeah i always thought that was funny
night plaza
yeah I noticed that lol
analog mantle
i wonder if that's a bug
night plaza
I wasn't sure if I was deflecting her dash, or if she was deflecting my attack and hitting the wall
But I thought maybe when she got deflected she would wall smash
I couldn't reproduce it due to being bad
unkempt storm
I had a great Poseidon wall-smash build going with Shield a few days ago. Then it all fell apart in Asphodel. None of the walls for some reason counted as walls. The Shield special just friggs off into the horizon, and you can't knockback the boss. Knockback focused builds just don't really work there. Neither does shield special because the rooms are effin' huge and have no walls.
fiery pebble
They do, because the lava does mad damage
unkempt storm
so if you miss, you're boned
fiery pebble
Special is bad in general, but knockback is great in Asphodel
night plaza
Miss cast, shoot bloodstone into lava
fiery pebble
Plus, most walls work afaik
night plaza
Stand at the edge hoping it scoots back to you
unkempt storm
Yeee, maybe. It wasn't very effective that one run, though. And when you bash a flying enemy 500 ft over lava, it's really annoying to deal with, especially if it's the Brimstones.
I ran into many walls that did absolutely nothing.
I had Aphro cast, lol. So that was a no-go for range.
I might try another one. It was fantastic and hella fun in Tartarus.
night plaza
So far besides straight damage builds with the bow almost everything is at least fun
I had a similar relationship to Transistor
Oh this is garbage -- but it's also hilarious
inner sentinel
Is ocean's bounty supposed to make the centaur hearts give you more than 25 extra hp?
inner sentinel
HOW DID I NOT KNOW THIS! I'll be picking that up more often now.
I thought it was just healed health, not extra max
unkempt storm
So I still think there are definitely walls and objects in Asphodel that I bang dudes into that do not wallsmack nor stun. And it seems they only get knocked properly into lava if you yourself are attacking them on the edge of lava, which doesn't make any sense. I can hit them across a football field but unless we're both on the edge of lava, they only get smacked a couple feet. Maybe they clip a wall or something that slows them down so it's the angle that's off. But the lava smack is dope, though. Still useless on Hydra. I had amazing Zeus cast for that but I still died at last phase. 😦
nimble harness
The little piles of grey ashes stop knockback and do not cause a Wall damage. They are everywhere in Asphodel
You can only destroy them by walking on them
prisma wind
@nimble harness Post in #hades-feedback-closed using the !bug command 👍
topaz estuary
Is that a bug or intended?
nimble harness
I was answering to Medico, I don't know if that's intended or not
prisma wind
Ah, I see
Still probably worth using either !feedback or !bug, they can decide whether it's intended or not but at least they'll know about it
nimble harness
Still worth a bug report anyway, as the interaction definitly seems weird
yeah
Done and removed my picture from this channel to prevent potential spoilers of the second zone to people who are still not there yet
ashen pier
well done
pastel nacelle
you can't get boons for one ability from multiple gods, right?
like you can't get artemis' seeking cast and zeus' bounce cast on the same run
prisma wind
Correct
pastel nacelle
pretty boring imo
prisma wind
Keeps it from getting too out of control if you ask me
pastel nacelle
I mean
maybe just not have it show up at the same likelihood as normal
like if you get artemis' cast, zeus' will show up much less frequently
dunno
feels like on some runs you get a bunch of boons from one or two gods and on some you get boons from like 4 gods
shrug
like some would be pretty broken or not work well together
but some could be fun
prisma wind
I'd be fine with them allowing that if it was just in a challenge arena or something where the enemies would get nuts, but not so much regular runs
ashen pier
It's def a balance thing, esp with Daedalus hammer making some boons really strong as is
pastel nacelle
maybe it could be tied to an upgrade
Like if you can upgrade god boons
er
the trinkets
prisma wind
Maybe they'll come out with a dual wield weapon and it can have two boons on it 
pastel nacelle
like, y'all ever play dead cells? how you can upgrade the likelihood of getting weapons of higher levels
it's an expensive upgrade but maybe if they eventually add a similar sort of NG+ like what dead cells has, but that'd definitely be far in the future
this is very much minor "I wish" stuff
nimble harness
Rogue Like like this also have a strong emphasis in decision making. Having to choose only ONE boon for each move you have that then dictates your playstyle is part of it
pastel nacelle
maybe when you max out all your stats
but at least with cast vs weapon builds until then
you gotta decide whether putting all that darkness into bonus casts is worth it
if you're planning a weapon run that never uses cast
but then all your good perks are cast related
or if you wanna go for cast but you get no good cast perks
analog mantle
has there been the case when you get back to the house of hades when hades is just not there?
pastel nacelle
once or twice
prisma wind
I don't think I've ever seen Hades missing myself ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Not to say it couldn't happen, though
fiery pebble
I havent seen it either
pastel nacelle
got my second hydra kill 
turns out that that one artemis boon that gives you a second projectile for 25% damage
is really good
especially when you upgrade it
cause you're just adding a flat 50% damage
prime harness
gratz
pastel nacelle
I had 3 of the good artemis boons
seeking casts, quick reload and that extra projectiles
prime harness
yeah the cast is prettty good, and the ammo also nice 😃 and free extra dmg cant say no to that right
golden totem
Woo damn, they really nerfed Aphrodites left click a bunch.
civic nimbus
seeing the feedback # after a submission makes me feel bad for devs
Supergiant, you're one of my favorite development studios though. I'm sure you all don't glance in here much, but everything you all touch is gold. Thank you so much for not succumbing to lootboxes or any of that filth and always having such a polished game 
amber garden
I think the feedback number is encouraging more than anything
People love this game
random slate
Feedback isn't always a negative! And we're providing it because we love'em too!
amber garden
And its scarcely been out a week
prime harness
yeah ppl done over 100 attempts and such 😃 totally hooked
trail rain
A lot of them are just duplicates and suggestions rather then outright bugs.
civic nimbus
of course! I'm sure it's more a help than anything, though I'm also sure many of them are probably reposts(which also doesn't have to be bad?); it's just a large number so soon lol
though I imagine(only an assumption based upon almost no game dev knowledge) having a strong core game with very few bugs will allow the implementation of more content more seamless
scenic sable
I'm new here so idk where I should ask this but how difficult is the game? I'm thinking of getting it but I'm not really a hardcore gamer so I'm wondering if it'll be too much of a challenge
brisk trail
I think its a good mid ground difficulty wise
not too hard but not too easy
the learning curve isnt bad either
scenic sable
nice
scenic sable
👌 thanks
brisk trail
np chief
alpine stratus
its hard but its doable
slender linden
^
as a casual too, it was very hard at the beginning, but you will be able to slowly progress, the game helps you learn the mechanics once you've experienced them a lot
and dying over and over doesn't feel that frustrating cause it rewards you with lore
mossy parrot
The game is fantastic about getting you to willingly explore strategies. The semi-randomness of the boons you have access to in each playthrough really makes you think about how to make a successful build each play-through.
Most games I hate being forces to try every strategy; here, I find myself adapting to wildly different tactics based on what I can find upgrades for.
mossy parrot
Just finished a play-through where I had Ares' delayed-damage upgrade to my attack, and Aphrodite's shotgun cast, both epic, and developed a wildly successful strategy of attack-cast-dash hit and run tactics.
Before that a dash-centric build around Zeus' lightning dash, before that a defensive build with Hera's deflect applied to attack - defense on my offense. Never played anything that made me so happy to adapt.
karmic basalt
honestly i spent a few runs just collecting money instead of doing useful things bc i wanted a poster lol
dying doesn't feel v bad 😂
or just testing random stuff for fun lol
slender linden
im trying for the poster now Q.Q
mossy parrot
I JUST got aphrodite's poster. I think Achilles has one, too.
brisk trail
he does yeah
mossy parrot
I just got a dialog where I asked the fury what she was drinking. She said, "Whatever it is, it's weak. Enough to be mistaken for your blood." Am I weird for loving that crappy attitude of hers? 😃
slender linden
one thing i loved in Pyre is the growing collection of stuff from party members so i cant wait for even more stuff to put in our room in Hades
and then eventually... leave... all of that... behind... DDD:
petition to take a scroll with us!
frigid dragon
got 2 legendary boons in the same run, lulz
karmic basalt
i want achilles' autograph too
mossy parrot
I'd like a small passive boon from each of the gifts you get; I feel like all the upgrades are a little fancy; I'm having trouble making progress without being able to upgrade the basics.
slender linden
and Orpheus's
mossy parrot
Something I've noticed; can anybody verify? It looks like you can only have one boon related to your dash, attack, special, and cast. I've never managed to have two different gods apply two boons to any one of those.
vestal lodge
Yep, that's by design for now
brisk trail
Would probably get a bit messy
mossy parrot
It makes sense; some things can't mix well, like Ares' blade storm on your cast wouldn't mix with other cast effects well. Thought I would check.
brisk trail
If you had effects for deflect, weak, curse, knockback, critical, and chain all on one action
mossy parrot
I would be shocked to be lucky enough to be offered all those choices in one playthrough, really. I mean, it'll happen eventually, but getting lucky is part of the process. I'd be more worried about unique effects breaking each other. There would be too many combos to do any really quality control on how they mix.
prisma wind
I don't know, they did it for Transistor
brisk trail
it would get boring if i just maxed everything out on one attack
prisma wind
I do like that you have to choose only one for each slot, though
mossy parrot
I don't MIND that they don't mix, I just wanted to verify. All I knew was that I wasn't seeing it happen, and there's too much luck at play for that to mean anything.
analog mantle
yeah i got a run where zeus only had his legendary to offer to me
mossy parrot
I also noticed the sword is the only weapon that seems to have a dash combo.
Not terribly meaningful unless you got the double hit/crit upgrade on the sword, but I spent a few runs trying to figure out if any of the other weapons were keeping secrets from me.
elder flax
Aegis has a chompy face
analog mantle
true
mossy parrot
Chompy face?
prisma wind
Similar to the dash-thrust, the bow has a quick charge after a dash
elder flax
Maybe even the chompiest. It hungry
mossy parrot
I couldn't get the bow to do anything unusual with a dash. I'll try again.
prisma wind
And the spear has a reverse dash attack, where you can charge your spin attack and then dash to release it at the end of the dash
You have to dash and then charge your shot, it will charge much faster than regular
mossy parrot
That's normal, though. If you dash while holding any charged attack, it'll fire from the end of the dash.
The bow's primary fire can release from the end of a dash, too.
Admittedly, not as useful.
elder flax
With the bow, dash and then immediately charge a shot. When you dash again, you will fire the shot, and instantly be charging the next
Instead of having to release fire and hit fire again
mossy parrot
Huh. I did find out that you can alter the path of the shield's bull rush by dashig during the rush.
elder flax
It seems to be an interaction with the quick temper (?) mechanic
mossy parrot
Maybe because I haven't taken any points in quick temper.
jolly summit
hey, um, how do I view my own stream on twitch?
I'm doing a test stream for hades and I haven't streamed on twitch before
prisma wind
You can see a preview of it on the dashboard, or else just navigate to your twitch page
If you throw a link in #self-promotion I can pop in to help out, if you want
I'm not an expert or anything, but I've done a bit of streaming, and spend a lot of time on Twitch 😆
jolly summit
it says I'm offline in the preview
ashen pier
The shield you can double attack very fast after a dash
It's not a unique attack but it's VERY handy
slender linden
have you pressed the 'start broadcasting' button in your streaming program?
ashen pier
It's a code that twitch gives you so that people can't just stream through your channel
its in your dashboard
prisma wind
@jolly summit I'll talk with you on Twitch
jolly summit
ok
jolly summit
hey, I am trying the stream on youtube
can someone go on it to see if it's working?
or not, I don't really care at this point
prisma wind
You'd have to post a link in #self-promotion , I don't know what your Youtube page is. Only found your Twitch page 'cause it's in your Discord profile 😉
steady plume
Vacuuming also?
topaz estuary
In fairness Trna had a whole lot of unintended(?) things you could do by stacking only two upgrades
For example one upgrade, in Hades terms, makes a bunch of tiny spark projectiles when you dash, which do small damage
Another makes a single homing cast when you dash, which does high damage
If you use both, it makes a bunch of homing casts that do high damage every time you dash
I played through an entire run using only those upgrades, dashing back and forth and letting all the enemies die to the dozens and dozens of homing casts
cedar hollow
I do agree that we should be able to stack boons. To a point. Maybe like 2 or 3 max
spring cipher
that bounce reflect and chase
that shoot 3
Nah no limits
FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOM
topaz estuary
(Also the code for how they stack in trna is beautiful and I have a partially-finished mod I need to get back to)
(That lets you do things like "invert the effect of X upgrade" or "make X upgrade twice as powerful but gain a drawback")
cedar hollow
they would need to lower the drop rate for the boons then or we would become hell destroying gods by the second area
topaz estuary
(Meta-upgrades in other words)
cedar hollow
what trna?
topaz estuary
Oh, sorry
Transistor
But searching "Transistor" tends to come up with electrical components
So fanworks for it often have the special tag "trna" also
cedar hollow
oh ok
topaz estuary
Just because nobody else uses it
cedar hollow
never seen it shortened like that.
remote ember
can't we already stack them? Like we can get at least 2 gods each time Z goes out.
prisma wind
They mean stacking the same boon type (Attack, Special, Dash, and Cast can all only have one boon attached to them)
elder flax
seems like the interactions would get hairy
lime hinge
Yeah, what wightfyre said.
devout plinth
We can already do that, I think they mean stacking the same boon like double true shot but that’s just the level up system
lime hinge
Not... quite.
devout plinth
You can already stack stuff like the area of effect cast and true shot tho
lime hinge
Like having true shot AND blade rift on cast.
elder flax
yeah, that's kind of hard to imagine
lime hinge
Or having Deflect on Attack and making your enemies weak on attack.
It'd be funny as an easy mode.
Slash 'stress mode.'
devout plinth
Correct me if I’m wrong or it was changed, but I’m pretty sure that’s a valid combination?
lime hinge
not that I've seen; if you have a god augmenting a method of combat (attack, cast, special), you won't get another boon augmenting the same method.
devout plinth
Hm, interesting. Maybe it’s less likely or something but when I was playing over the weekend I could have sworn I doubled up on cast boons
lime hinge
As in like...
Ares can augment Cast/Attack power, yes, but if you have Artemis's trueshot ability for cast, you won't get the blade rift generation that Ares provides.
elder flax
You could get a Daedalus Hammer boon and a God boon on the same weapon, I believe
lime hinge
Yep!
elder flax
Those can synergize in fun ways on their own
lime hinge
But that's different from gods.
devout plinth
Ohhhhhh okay
elder flax
The gods seem more like replacing an ability for a similar one, so I don't even know if stacking god boons is feasible even if SG wanted to
lime hinge
Nor do I! But it's still worth asking, if only to see what happens, you know?
That and like... Let me find it and post it in off-topic.
karmic storm
does anyone know if its possible to play hades using a nintendo switch pro controller?
cedar hollow
faq says it is
alpine silo
What are legendary boon? I have kill Hydra a couple of time now (and being killed even more often), yet I have never get anything better than epic
brisk trail
they have higher stats
cedar hollow
legendary boons are boons with a special effect. like aphrodite's gives a chance for weakened enemies to fight for you
stuff like that
brisk trail
its a chance thing
alpine silo
I should’ve some drop by now
radiant flame
how many runs are you at?
alpine silo
Can’t remember
cedar hollow
Ive done 150 runs and maybe seen 5 total
alpine silo
But I kill Hydra 4 times, now
radiant flame
I saw my first legendary around run 40 ish
prisma wind
It's not chance, there are prerequisites to get Legendaries
alpine silo
Maybe, I’m just unlucky
radiant flame
that doesn't really tell us anything, you could be at 200 runs with 4 hydra kills 🤷
brisk trail
what do you need to do then/
alpine silo
Well, at least it tells you that I play a lot, already?
radiant flame
if you get the pool for your room you can see how many runs you have done
if you are interested in that sort of thing
alpine silo
I didn’t buy any cosmetic for my room
brisk trail
if you look at your savefile in the menu you can also see it
alpine silo
Though, it wastes of gold...
Yes, I think I’m over 50, but not sure how many exactly
prisma wind
You can look them up on the wiki, check pinned messages in #h1-builds-and-combat . Basic idea though is you need a basic boon for a god, followed by the tier 2 boon that modifies it, and then tier 3 (legendary) will be available
cedar hollow
TIL
alpine silo
Alright
prisma wind
Prereqs are listed at the bottom of each god's page. Beware spoilers if reading the wiki
radiant flame
I feel like even with prereq's met, it is still a big chance thing
I always go for aphrodite weak and then increased damage to weak, and I have only seen the legendary once
prisma wind
Sure, you can't guarantee you'll see that god again
And what they offer is still randomized from the available pool
The prereqs just toss the Legendary into that pool
mellow spoke
Artemis fangirling over Achilles is the best
cerulean flare
i wanna see zagreus fangirling over achilles iykwim
mellow spoke
Hahaha
olive jungle
he does to a certain extent lol
mellow spoke
it's more like admiration in a student-mentor kinda way, I think
olive jungle
achilles is pretty famous lol it's not surprising he'd have fans in the underworld too
and enemies
loads of enemies.
devout plinth
He put 60% of those guys in there
olive jungle
Hades is still processing them lmao
devout plinth
that’s the line u see whenever there’s people in there
hexed smelt
i mean zag can buy a poster of achilles, so
alpine silo
If he put 60% of those guys there, then over 60% of those guys were killed in combat. Alas, during those time those number is far off...
hexed smelt
(as a side note i think the line you get from him when you inspect the poster is Adorable)
alpine silo
How many room decorations are there? Is there any purpose to have them?
mellow spoke
I have both posters, scrying bowl, and the old weapons
with the bowl you can see how many runs you've done and enemies you've killed
devout plinth
The bowl is the most general, idk what the aphro one does but everyone seems to want it
hexed smelt
it has pretty lady
brisk trail
I only got the decor because decor!
mellow spoke
yeah me too, it took me a lil while to get the 500 for the aphrodite poster, when I did get it I had 600+ and I'm like: ?? Where did all this money come from??
devout plinth
fair carry on
alpine silo
What does the color of our name mean?
little fable
Purple is mods, red is supergiant, the rest are from the game roles
alpine silo
Okay, thanks