#h1-discussion | Supergiant Games | Page 569

mental bolt Dec 10, 2018, 1:29 AM

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He and Logan should do something together

hasty frost Dec 10, 2018, 1:30 AM

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ive got weak and true shot also some shieldy boi

pastel nacelle Dec 10, 2018, 1:30 AM

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duet singing baby it's cold outside

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smirkron

mental bolt Dec 10, 2018, 1:30 AM

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hahaha

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I think I''d die

hasty frost Dec 10, 2018, 1:31 AM

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GASP

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I WAS BAMBOOZLED

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IT WAS A TRIALS

tepid wedge Dec 10, 2018, 1:33 AM

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is it even possible to gift Meg a second time?

midnight bay Dec 10, 2018, 1:33 AM

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Death boat gives me conniptions

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Yeah it’s just that meg doesnt like to talk

pliant wolf Dec 10, 2018, 1:34 AM

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yeah it worth just constantly keeping at least one flask with you

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since most of the time she doesnt show

rough mirage Dec 10, 2018, 1:35 AM

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Does anyone know if you can buy hades as a gift? It'll be a bangin KK present

pastel nacelle Dec 10, 2018, 1:37 AM

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give him a present

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he takes the lid off

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it's just a bottomless box with Zag going 🖕

mental bolt Dec 10, 2018, 1:37 AM

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😂

pastel nacelle Dec 10, 2018, 1:37 AM

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if i could draw I'd draw that

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ngl

minor hornet Dec 10, 2018, 1:40 AM

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I think he was asking if he could gift the game to someone through the epic store, which I'm pretty sure the answer is "no" unfortunately

rough mirage Dec 10, 2018, 1:42 AM

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Dangit, thanks @minor hornet

hasty frost Dec 10, 2018, 1:47 AM

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WOOOOOOOO

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I DID IT

mental bolt Dec 10, 2018, 1:51 AM

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Good job!

alpine stratus Dec 10, 2018, 1:56 AM

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HNFVHFJF ZAGS HAND IN THE BOX

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HERE YOU GO FATHER

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hades like. rude, but its nice you thought of me

mental bolt Dec 10, 2018, 1:58 AM

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I need to find someone to draw that

twilit wagon Dec 10, 2018, 1:58 AM

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i think i can draw that

mental bolt Dec 10, 2018, 2:01 AM

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PLease do

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That would be incredible

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 2:17 AM

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https://www.twitch.tv/videos/347094627 I got a 10:31 Run

Twitch

Hades - Any% 10:31 [WR]

Dinosaurus - Hades - Twitch

▶ Play video

desert atlas Dec 10, 2018, 2:17 AM

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nice!

fiery pebble Dec 10, 2018, 2:29 AM

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Damn, thats some good RNG

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Heartbreaker in epic and Sweet Surrender in epic so quickly

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And Artemis Crit dash too

void vigil Dec 10, 2018, 2:33 AM

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watching this happen live was incredible

olive jungle Dec 10, 2018, 2:34 AM

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Oh my god

hasty frost Dec 10, 2018, 2:35 AM

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thats awesome dino!!

spice cliff Dec 10, 2018, 2:36 AM

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okay

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I just beat meg for the first time

hasty frost Dec 10, 2018, 2:36 AM

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😄 !

spice cliff Dec 10, 2018, 2:36 AM

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and I legit almost had a heart attack

olive jungle Dec 10, 2018, 2:36 AM

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Nice!!!!

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YEAH

spice cliff Dec 10, 2018, 2:37 AM

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because the freaking fury defeated screen looks EXACTLY LIKE THE "YOU DIED" SCREEN

olive jungle Dec 10, 2018, 2:37 AM

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my heart STILL pounds out of my chest whenever I do her fight, I haven't gotten to a point where I can consistently win it yet

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YEAH IT DOES

spice cliff Dec 10, 2018, 2:37 AM

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I was like "UM WHAT I STILL HAD ANOTHER DEATH DEFY"

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I think I may have actually yelled "no" out loud

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btw I can't stand the athena dash and yet ironically it was the reason I beat her

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this is the first time I've taken it and probably the last

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but I realized I could deflect a ton of her projectiles by just mashing the A button

fiery pebble Dec 10, 2018, 2:38 AM

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Honestly, thats my issue with speedruns in Roguelites

olive jungle Dec 10, 2018, 2:38 AM

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Aphrodash is fun lol

fiery pebble Dec 10, 2018, 2:38 AM

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RNG just has too much impact

spice cliff Dec 10, 2018, 2:39 AM

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my right thumb actually kind of hurts now because I was just frantically dashing the whole fight

void vigil Dec 10, 2018, 2:40 AM

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oh man the exact same thing happened to me the one time i beat her

iron moat Dec 10, 2018, 3:00 AM

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do you get a gift from hades?

cedar hollow Dec 10, 2018, 3:04 AM

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Welp. Just made it to the Hydra for the first time. Sadly I was pretty underpowerd.

boreal oracle Dec 10, 2018, 3:07 AM

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Rip :^(, I just finally killed it about 10 mins ago on my 30 something-th run, Bow with 350% damage at close range is super strong

silk nebula Dec 10, 2018, 3:09 AM

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ready for that hades merch anytime now

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ril

coral thistle Dec 10, 2018, 3:14 AM

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nope, @iron moat

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he just kinda yells at u

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 3:17 AM

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It took me 27 runs to finally get to the second map. dsfhjasdfaskldfjl

olive jungle Dec 10, 2018, 3:17 AM

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🅱ood

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 3:17 AM

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RNG blessed the hell outta me

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had lvl 4 scatter arrows

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with aph

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and the tidal wave is op

hollow heron Dec 10, 2018, 3:18 AM

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isn't that the Poseidon dash?

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 3:18 AM

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yes

hollow heron Dec 10, 2018, 3:18 AM

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general consensus is that the altered dashes suck tbh

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 3:19 AM

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I mitigated so much damage with it tho

hollow heron Dec 10, 2018, 3:19 AM

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they're worse than base dash imo

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 3:19 AM

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The only bad part is recovering after the end

cedar hollow Dec 10, 2018, 3:19 AM

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Zeus dash is pretty awesome

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 3:19 AM

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yeah but when you're surrounded, zeus dash still makes you get hurt by enemies around you

minor hornet Dec 10, 2018, 3:20 AM

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yeah no the recovery on the poiseidon dash becomes a huge liability even by the meg fight

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 3:20 AM

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very damaging tho

hollow heron Dec 10, 2018, 3:20 AM

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not really

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the thing is, the other dashes can help you getout of a tight situation

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 3:20 AM

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what I got confused about is why meg still hurt me when I went head to head with her with the p dash

hollow heron Dec 10, 2018, 3:20 AM

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because she hit you

minor hornet Dec 10, 2018, 3:21 AM

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the invincibility wears off before the dash is over

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 3:21 AM

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it would be right in the start and it's like a 20% chance that I get hurt.

spice cliff Dec 10, 2018, 3:21 AM

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is meg the kind of boss where once you beat her, you can beat her every time?

hollow heron Dec 10, 2018, 3:21 AM

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no

void vigil Dec 10, 2018, 3:21 AM

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nope

spice cliff Dec 10, 2018, 3:21 AM

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because I've never gotten past her before and now I've beaten here twice in a row

hollow heron Dec 10, 2018, 3:21 AM

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but you get a lot better

void vigil Dec 10, 2018, 3:21 AM

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i beat her once and thats it

hollow heron Dec 10, 2018, 3:21 AM

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she crushes slow builds though

spice cliff Dec 10, 2018, 3:21 AM

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maybe it's just luck and playing enough

hollow heron Dec 10, 2018, 3:21 AM

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which makes me super sad

spice cliff Dec 10, 2018, 3:22 AM

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yeah I kinda have the advantage there because I like the fast hard-to-pin-down builds

void vigil Dec 10, 2018, 3:22 AM

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if dino taught me anything, its that you need aphrodite+artemis to beat her consistently

spice cliff Dec 10, 2018, 3:22 AM

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the one's where I'm just constantly tapping either dash or attack

minor hornet Dec 10, 2018, 3:22 AM

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it's weird, though, that's just the way roguelites go

spice cliff Dec 10, 2018, 3:22 AM

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zeus dash might be my favorite boon so far

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 3:22 AM

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I loved lvl 4 scatter arrows because I could actually hurt her when she's doing the orb spinning attack

hollow heron Dec 10, 2018, 3:22 AM

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I do as well, but I feel that she prevents a lot of builds from getting off the ground

spice cliff Dec 10, 2018, 3:22 AM

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just because it lets you kill enemies by literally running circles around them

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it's a huge help in the meg fight

minor hornet Dec 10, 2018, 3:23 AM

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I remember first beating mom in binding of isaac and thinking to some grand achievement, but then from every run onwards I would consider it bad if I DIDN'T beat her

spice cliff Dec 10, 2018, 3:23 AM

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especially if you're building coronacht dash-attack

hollow heron Dec 10, 2018, 3:23 AM

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imo aphro dash is better than zeus because the extra damage on weak is busted with it

spice cliff Dec 10, 2018, 3:23 AM

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because it's dash-lightning-dash-lightning-fire

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I haven't see aphro's yet

minor hornet Dec 10, 2018, 3:23 AM

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I just tried a run with the coronacht again after the dash attack recommendation and I still think the recovery after a shot is too much

hollow heron Dec 10, 2018, 3:23 AM

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wait there's recovery?

spice cliff Dec 10, 2018, 3:24 AM

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idk I don't notice the recovery much at all

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 3:24 AM

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Has anyone beaten Meg with sword?

minor hornet Dec 10, 2018, 3:24 AM

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after you fire a shot there's a delay before you can dash with the bow

spice cliff Dec 10, 2018, 3:24 AM

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probably some crazy person

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but I definitely haven't

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shield or bow for me

hollow heron Dec 10, 2018, 3:24 AM

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I have

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 3:24 AM

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I would only get half way

steep sandal Dec 10, 2018, 3:24 AM

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ive beat meg with sword a couple times

hollow heron Dec 10, 2018, 3:24 AM

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I've got to boss 2 with sword like 5 times

spice cliff Dec 10, 2018, 3:24 AM

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how

hollow heron Dec 10, 2018, 3:24 AM

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0 clears

steep sandal Dec 10, 2018, 3:24 AM

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you can get a healing ability on the thrid hit of sword

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and just tank everything

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and also any build with zeus dash

hollow heron Dec 10, 2018, 3:25 AM

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its not that

steep sandal Dec 10, 2018, 3:25 AM

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can beat meg

hollow heron Dec 10, 2018, 3:25 AM

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basically you can just grind it out

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its frustating though

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 3:25 AM

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tank u very much for the info MercySMUG

spice cliff Dec 10, 2018, 3:26 AM

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the thing about bow is that it really only gets good once you stack up a few boons

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at least in my opinion

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 3:26 AM

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Word up, beating Meg for the first time might be harder than the "About the Author" achievement in Bastion

spice cliff Dec 10, 2018, 3:26 AM

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the shield has a more immediate "wow this is super powerful" feel to it

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remind me again what about the author is

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something with the old man's dream right

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 3:27 AM

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10 gods enraged for the old man's dream

spice cliff Dec 10, 2018, 3:27 AM

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oh right

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 3:27 AM

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the hardest thing in the game

hollow heron Dec 10, 2018, 3:27 AM

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idk, meg wasn't that bad

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I got her 4th try

midnight bay Dec 10, 2018, 3:27 AM

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Meg with sword sounds incredibly tedious

spice cliff Dec 10, 2018, 3:27 AM

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yeah that's one of those achievements that I look at and go "I like this game but not quite that much"

hollow heron Dec 10, 2018, 3:27 AM

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mirror upgrades definitely help a lot with her

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yeah, sword is just tedious in general

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 3:27 AM

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I never play rogue games so it took me 27. Rip

midnight bay Dec 10, 2018, 3:28 AM

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Meg with anything else is fine, just somewhat difficult until you get used to it

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I suck ass at this type of game so it took me a while to beat her

spice cliff Dec 10, 2018, 3:28 AM

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it took me 22 (I think) runs to beat her

half surge Dec 10, 2018, 3:28 AM

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I beat her the first run I met her but I also had the shield

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 3:28 AM

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Last rogue I played was Realm of the Black King and that was years ago

half surge Dec 10, 2018, 3:28 AM

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It was also the first run I got past the bombers

midnight bay Dec 10, 2018, 3:28 AM

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But once I figured her out I can do it pretty consistently with all 3 good weapons

spice cliff Dec 10, 2018, 3:29 AM

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I don't play many top-down fighting games like this; the last non-SG one I played was probably Ruiner

midnight bay Dec 10, 2018, 3:29 AM

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Still can’t do the hydra though

half surge Dec 10, 2018, 3:29 AM

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Ohhh yeah ruiner

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Pretty good game

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 3:29 AM

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I'm so rusty at isometric games in general because all my time has been on overwatch

midnight bay Dec 10, 2018, 3:29 AM

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Though in fairness I’ve only reached hydra like 2-3 times

spice cliff Dec 10, 2018, 3:30 AM

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my one saving grace here is that I'm a Dead Cells veteran so the dodge-behind-attack-dodge reflexes are just hardwired into my thumbs

solemn solar Dec 10, 2018, 3:30 AM

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I have no idea how I beat the hydra, i think some boons combined, (titan toppler for sure and something else) but there would be solid 10 seconds at a time where i just had a feild of deflection around me anytime i got hit

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 3:30 AM

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Hades runs give me the same panic as being a Zen against a dive comp

midnight bay Dec 10, 2018, 3:30 AM

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My other runs that died in asphodel either got killed by meme boat or just from asphodel trash

spice cliff Dec 10, 2018, 3:30 AM

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I survive by kiting so hard I'm airborne

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meme boat?

solemn solar Dec 10, 2018, 3:30 AM

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toot toot

midnight bay Dec 10, 2018, 3:31 AM

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The segment where you’re on the small block and enemies keep spawning

spice cliff Dec 10, 2018, 3:31 AM

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oh that one

midnight bay Dec 10, 2018, 3:31 AM

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Didn’t know you could avoid it until recently

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 3:31 AM

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What I wanna know is, how does one make a lava boat

spice cliff Dec 10, 2018, 3:31 AM

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the end of my one previous asphodel run

hollow heron Dec 10, 2018, 3:31 AM

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I just call it boat

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its fun

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its the mini-boss of asphodel

spice cliff Dec 10, 2018, 3:31 AM

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btw I'm now heading into asphodel with 2 hp and no death defies

hollow heron Dec 10, 2018, 3:31 AM

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rip

spice cliff Dec 10, 2018, 3:31 AM

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this oughta be fun

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oh wait I forgot you get heals

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 3:32 AM

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I died there on my first time of asp. I think of it as a brownie

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a big deformed brownie

hollow heron Dec 10, 2018, 3:32 AM

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I don't think I've actually died to boat yet

spice cliff Dec 10, 2018, 3:33 AM

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I like the little disclaimer in the shop

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"Upon demise, all obols returned to Charon. All sales are final."

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 3:34 AM

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I still have to get enough skeleton keys but are the last two things in the mirror worth it?

hollow heron Dec 10, 2018, 3:34 AM

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get everything else first

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they're massive darkness sinks

spice cliff Dec 10, 2018, 3:34 AM

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I mean, you'll definitely get them eventually if you've got everything else

dry forge Dec 10, 2018, 3:34 AM

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Those tiny bomb dont want die by arrow....

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 3:35 AM

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LOL

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I had the spinning reds and one of the bomb guys avoided all four of mine

spice cliff Dec 10, 2018, 3:36 AM

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now that I have triple dash, the ground is just a bunch of scars by the time I finish a level

dry forge Dec 10, 2018, 3:36 AM

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ahah ya

hollow heron Dec 10, 2018, 3:37 AM

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ikr

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 3:37 AM

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inb4 people start drawing memes with that mechanic

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 3:38 AM

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Anybody got tips for fighting Meg?

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I die to her maybe 1/2 the time I reach her

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 3:38 AM

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Kite like hell

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 3:38 AM

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lol

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 3:38 AM

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don't break pillars too fast

midnight bay Dec 10, 2018, 3:39 AM

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I have not gotten past boat actually

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 3:39 AM

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same

midnight bay Dec 10, 2018, 3:39 AM

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All my runs that have made it to hydra just skipped it

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 3:39 AM

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Why are pillars important? Just to avoid her spam attack?

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 3:39 AM

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yes

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unless you clear a ton of it with scatter arrow like I did.

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 3:40 AM

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alright

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thanks

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 3:41 AM

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Also, am I the only one that thinks that orbs should be brighter? I can barely see them sometimes

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I would be trying to avoid a trillion things and then get a faceful of em because they hide so well with some shadow or something

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 3:42 AM

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the orbs she sends out, or the orbs that the witch things send?

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 3:42 AM

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both

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more of Meg tho

dry forge Dec 10, 2018, 3:42 AM

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yeaah meg is caancer

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 3:42 AM

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I can see the witch orbs pretty easy, but yeah Meg's spam is annoying

dry forge Dec 10, 2018, 3:43 AM

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for the witch i think there fine..

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 3:43 AM

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They're small and go so fast that I basically just hope I don't get hit

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Because I'm bad at the game lol

dry forge Dec 10, 2018, 3:43 AM

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Uproar wich weapon you using ?

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 3:43 AM

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I switch between the bow and the spear, sword is meh and I haven't tried the shield yet

spice cliff Dec 10, 2018, 3:44 AM

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the shield lets you block, which can be helpful in that fight

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 3:44 AM

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Though I actually use Cast for a lot of my fights... Zeus's boost to it makes it amazing imo

spice cliff Dec 10, 2018, 3:44 AM

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also the key to avoiding meg's orbs is that they go in a spiral pattern

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 3:44 AM

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Does shield block negate all damage?

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if so, nice!

dry forge Dec 10, 2018, 3:45 AM

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I mean eaach weapon can block those meg orb ez arrow just ult and it block or continu attack her with shield block spear just attack in front of you

spice cliff Dec 10, 2018, 3:45 AM

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they're not random, and if you can move along with the open parts you can dodge pretty easily

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especially if you're far away from her

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and yeah the shield block negates all damage

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 3:45 AM

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Makes sense

spice cliff Dec 10, 2018, 3:45 AM

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from the front

dry forge Dec 10, 2018, 3:45 AM

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When she does that i can continu attack her with the arrow and hades so fast and ez

spice cliff Dec 10, 2018, 3:45 AM

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there are some things that can break it

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I know numbskulls can, not sure if there's anything else

fallow fjord Dec 10, 2018, 3:46 AM

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hey guys

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 3:46 AM

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Probably the really big guys that charge you

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Contact damage would make sense for breaking shield

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What's up Yard?

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I wonder if you can just sit on top of her with spear and continuously attack, since it hits so fast

hollow heron Dec 10, 2018, 3:47 AM

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shield is unbreakable from the front, but skulls can dash behing you

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the big guys can't break it

fallow fjord Dec 10, 2018, 3:47 AM

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i was wondering, what do you get from giving pepole amborsia?

spice cliff Dec 10, 2018, 3:47 AM

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the first one you give to each character gets you a trinket

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 3:47 AM

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Keepsakes, gives you little buffs in your run

fallow fjord Dec 10, 2018, 3:48 AM

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yeah but does it give anything else?

hollow heron Dec 10, 2018, 3:48 AM

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story

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 3:48 AM

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Past the first one, you mean? I saw that it increments the hearts in codex

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 3:49 AM

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I ship Meg with Zag

dry forge Dec 10, 2018, 3:49 AM

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You can also give those god when you click on there orb to choose a perk

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 3:49 AM

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The god keepsakes are the best, i think, since you can always get your favorite boon pretty quick

spice cliff Dec 10, 2018, 3:50 AM

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yeah the god ones seem real strong

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 3:50 AM

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Though I haven't unlocked all of them yet

spice cliff Dec 10, 2018, 3:50 AM

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because if you have a build you like you can ensure that you have a good shot at starting it every run

hollow heron Dec 10, 2018, 3:50 AM

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I open a god one (usually aphro/artemis), and then usually switch to collar

fallow fjord Dec 10, 2018, 3:50 AM

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i love how awkward artemins is

spice cliff Dec 10, 2018, 3:50 AM

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I started trying to unlock all of them as soon as I realized what they did

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which one's collar?

hollow heron Dec 10, 2018, 3:51 AM

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cerebus

spice cliff Dec 10, 2018, 3:51 AM

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I assume it's Cerberus'

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what's it do?

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 3:51 AM

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Same, but I'm missing like 3 and don't know who it is, though I haven't gone out of my way to look

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+25 HP

hollow heron Dec 10, 2018, 3:51 AM

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+25max hp

spice cliff Dec 10, 2018, 3:51 AM

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oh that's really strong

plush hatch Dec 10, 2018, 3:51 AM

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No idea if anyone's asked this already, so sorry if someone has. Is Hades coming to steam?

spice cliff Dec 10, 2018, 3:51 AM

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just free centaur heart basically

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yeah after early access

void vigil Dec 10, 2018, 3:51 AM

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which ones are you missing uproar

pliant wolf Dec 10, 2018, 3:51 AM

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#hades-faq

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yeah it will

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 3:51 AM

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I'm opening the game now to check

hollow heron Dec 10, 2018, 3:51 AM

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everyone has asked it, look in #hades-faq for the answer

spice cliff Dec 10, 2018, 3:51 AM

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I think I have poseidon, athena, and zeus

dry forge Dec 10, 2018, 3:51 AM

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I prefer Owl pendant from athena

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 3:51 AM

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@fallow fjord war makes anyone a socially awkward person afterwards for a whileeee

spice cliff Dec 10, 2018, 3:52 AM

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I wanted to get zeus for ages and I forgot to give him a gift like twice in a row

void vigil Dec 10, 2018, 3:52 AM

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i got them all today so i can fill in the blanks for u

spice cliff Dec 10, 2018, 3:52 AM

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and then finally remembered

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 3:52 AM

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It's not their fault because... you know, PTSD

dry forge Dec 10, 2018, 3:52 AM

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lol

spice cliff Dec 10, 2018, 3:52 AM

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I haven't gotten an aphrodite boon in a while now that I think about it

dry forge Dec 10, 2018, 3:52 AM

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zeus volt ball

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📀 😃

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i uphrade to lvl 4, 9 bounce

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 3:53 AM

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I'm missing the 1st in both rows, and the 4th in the second

void vigil Dec 10, 2018, 3:54 AM

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aphrodite, nyx, poseidon

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if im not mistaken

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 3:54 AM

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First time I heard of an Aphrodite boon, I was like "... go on vitas "

void vigil Dec 10, 2018, 3:54 AM

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you can check in the codex, i think

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 3:54 AM

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Huh, I've never seen Aphrodite. Is she later game?

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I've gotten to chamber 24

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 3:54 AM

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She's one of the gods that spawns sometimes

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She's the 💓

void vigil Dec 10, 2018, 3:55 AM

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it took me quite a number of runs to get her

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 3:55 AM

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Oh wow, I've only seen her symbol once on a door and chose the other path

void vigil Dec 10, 2018, 3:55 AM

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i think shes just pretty uncommon at first?

hollow heron Dec 10, 2018, 3:55 AM

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she's one of the best gods

void vigil Dec 10, 2018, 3:55 AM

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aww

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 3:55 AM

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Rip, no love for the goddess of it

hollow heron Dec 10, 2018, 3:55 AM

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I had her a lot

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 3:55 AM

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Well, now I got to play some more to find her lol

midnight bay Dec 10, 2018, 3:55 AM

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Yeah Aphrodite is good

void vigil Dec 10, 2018, 3:56 AM

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gl!

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 3:56 AM

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What kind of buffs does she give?

midnight bay Dec 10, 2018, 3:56 AM

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Artemis is still my favorite though

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 3:56 AM

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REEEEEEEEL good Kappa

hollow heron Dec 10, 2018, 3:56 AM

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she gives weak, and also has the highest damage bonues

midnight bay Dec 10, 2018, 3:56 AM

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she has an effect that makes enemies do less damage but her damage bonus is the main draw

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 3:56 AM

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Sweet

midnight bay Dec 10, 2018, 3:57 AM

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Especially since one of her later boons amps damage against weakened foes

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 3:57 AM

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Very nice

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 3:57 AM

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I just like that everything turns supremely pink

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 3:58 AM

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Fashion

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What's your all favorite boons? The ares wound one is pretty nice, since I can just hit once and do a very decent number of damage

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 3:59 AM

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pink stands out a whole lot from the prominently black and green color scheme of Tartarus

void vigil Dec 10, 2018, 3:59 AM

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i got one from zeus that immediately did 171 damage to whoever hit me

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its how i beat meg and its amazing

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/330238921277571074/521373402028572672/2018-12-09_19_09_39-Greenshot.png

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there, its called heaven's vengeance

hollow heron Dec 10, 2018, 4:00 AM

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I dislike the thorns ones, but that one's the best of the bunch

midnight bay Dec 10, 2018, 4:00 AM

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I like Artemis and Ares casts, Aphrodite and Zeus dash, and the Artemis one that adds a true shot projectile to your attacks

hollow heron Dec 10, 2018, 4:01 AM

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ares boons are weird because aphro is just better on attack tbh

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artemis dash is amazing

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 4:01 AM

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I haven't seen her dash, mostly because I never take the dashes due to the other things always being better from what I've seen

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Are any of the dashes worth it? I took Ares dash once and it was so different from regular dash that I died pretty quick

midnight bay Dec 10, 2018, 4:02 AM

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Her dash just does damage and weakens, I’m just kind of a sucker for the dashes that aren’t surges

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I haven’t taken Poseidon’s surge but I assume it’s also bad

olive jungle Dec 10, 2018, 4:02 AM

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god i had two revenge damage boons, one from aphrodite and one from zeus, and it was WILD

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i dare you to hit me

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 4:03 AM

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P dash gives immunity to damage. I love it

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 4:03 AM

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Ah, so the difference is it changes dash to surge on Ares? That's why it was so different

hollow heron Dec 10, 2018, 4:03 AM

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athena gives immunity

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pos is just bleg

olive jungle Dec 10, 2018, 4:03 AM

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the uhhh the Ares blade rift shot can also be very useful for taking out armored enemies

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 4:03 AM

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haven't tried hers out just yet

olive jungle Dec 10, 2018, 4:04 AM

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it grinds their armor down in a couple seconds

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plus you can immediately retrieve your bloodstone

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 4:04 AM

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But Zeus and Artemis Cast tho

midnight bay Dec 10, 2018, 4:04 AM

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I like ares cast because it’s spammable

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 4:05 AM

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I kept getting my behind handed to me by Megan when I would put everything into my bloodstones

midnight bay Dec 10, 2018, 4:05 AM

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Artemis is also good because trueshot is awesome and I believe its damage bonus is the highest

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 4:06 AM

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Casting just seemed to fall off for me in the second area, since all of my bloodstones would fall into the lava when I tried it with Zeus Cast

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Might've just been unlucky though, haven't tested a whole ton since I'm a little trash

solar coral Dec 10, 2018, 4:10 AM

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Artemis cast plus at least two Poms= win

marble sphinx Dec 10, 2018, 4:16 AM

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zeus cast is crazy good

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it's the best one for making a caster build viable imo

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since you can clear like 3-4 mobs per shot if you use it well

tidal fulcrum Dec 10, 2018, 4:17 AM

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Can you access saves from one computer at another?

gusty canyon Dec 10, 2018, 4:17 AM

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is there anything relevant I can provide if I clear the room and the door doesn't unlock and still shows up blocked? It's only happened twice, but dunno if there's something that causes it that I could provide or what

pliant wolf Dec 10, 2018, 4:18 AM

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generally it means you havent picked up the reward

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 4:18 AM

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did you pick up the item

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might be hidden

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like right next to the little shops

gusty canyon Dec 10, 2018, 4:18 AM

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ohhhh! wow.. it was in the flame of the torch

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I'm an idiot

umbral quiver Dec 10, 2018, 4:18 AM

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sneaky ^^

gusty canyon Dec 10, 2018, 4:18 AM

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that's prob exactly what happened last time too haha

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 4:19 AM

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Yeah i have keys blend in with the little shops all the time

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 4:19 AM

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Nah, the devs just have to make items more glowy so they're easier to spot. It's all about level design

wooden quartz Dec 10, 2018, 4:20 AM

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are there ever any checkpoints in the game, like after bosses?

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 4:21 AM

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noperoni

wooden quartz Dec 10, 2018, 4:21 AM

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ngggg

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prolly the first supergiant game i wont be able to finish, then

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 4:21 AM

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you just get a relief room after Meg, that's all I know

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 4:21 AM

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Well, it's rogelike, so no checkpoints is standard I believe

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 4:21 AM

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it's rougelike what do u expect @wooden quartz LUL

wooden quartz Dec 10, 2018, 4:21 AM

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a lot of roguelikes at least add skips if you pass a certain level

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 4:21 AM

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Have you tried Getting Gud @wooden quartz ?

wooden quartz Dec 10, 2018, 4:22 AM

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have you tried not being an insufferable twit

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 4:22 AM

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😢

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 4:22 AM

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It's not as fun

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 4:22 AM

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Sorry

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 4:22 AM

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plus

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 4:22 AM

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well shortcuts are an idea but the game is too short atm to do that

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 4:22 AM

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its gitting gud

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 4:22 AM

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this ain't your grandpa's bastion. Those were simpler times. Bashing everything without any regard for ones health until you do the trial thingies.

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 4:22 AM

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also shortcuts would require you to be good as well anyway. In the current game if you got to floor 2 without any boons or hammers form the first floor, you would have a bad time

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 4:23 AM

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Good times

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 4:23 AM

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I can't wait to watch someone do this game boonless on YT

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 4:23 AM

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Currently you can't do it boonless

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 4:23 AM

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... you're right

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 4:24 AM

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@wooden quartz I get what you mean tho. It's a huge change to what the typical sg fan like me is used to.

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 4:24 AM

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Since you need to pick up boons to unlock doors

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 4:24 AM

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but I hope they'll add this

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 4:24 AM

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You could only pick boons that affect your special, then never use it. But that's a copout

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 4:24 AM

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or something like don't pick up boons = anger the gods

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 4:25 AM

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LOL. inb4 not accepting a boon when it's the only one in a room will anger the god so boonless will spike up hard in difficulty

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so every room is a hellhole Kappa

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 4:26 AM

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Is it possible to go through the doors in a certain way that you never get a boon? Say there's always 2 doors, one without a boon, and you pick the boonless door

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But the game probably won't do that ever

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 4:26 AM

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Well since SG is developing and shaping this game with our ideas, or so I hope, we can do it hardcore

solar coral Dec 10, 2018, 4:26 AM

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How tf do you beat meg

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 4:26 AM

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Strategy

void vigil Dec 10, 2018, 4:26 AM

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ive had runs with no boons i think

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granted im not sure i survived long

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but yknow

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 4:26 AM

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YOU SMACK HER IN THE... face

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 4:27 AM

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What are you having trouble with specifically, Stripper?

solar coral Dec 10, 2018, 4:27 AM

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She kicks my ass

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I think I die too quickly

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 4:27 AM

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Meg has just too much health atm

solar coral Dec 10, 2018, 4:27 AM

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I have gotten her down to one quater

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 4:27 AM

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Like what attack is hitting you? A lot of them have a good pattern for dodging

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 4:27 AM

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She's supposed to. She prepares you well for what comes next

hollow heron Dec 10, 2018, 4:28 AM

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meg has a decent amount too much health, it makes fighting her a grind

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 4:28 AM

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I mean, you need to die to get stronger in a meaningful way

quick sable Dec 10, 2018, 4:28 AM

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anyone already made a guide for this? the hydra boss is just effin insane

solar coral Dec 10, 2018, 4:28 AM

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What boons are best for her?

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 4:28 AM

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but it feels sooooo good beating her

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 4:28 AM

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Revenge boons like Zeus are always good

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Get your revive skill upgraded in the mirror also

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 4:29 AM

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Take it from me, scatter arrows with Aphrodite maxed out for them. Ez

hollow heron Dec 10, 2018, 4:29 AM

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I dislike revenge boons

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because the goal is to not get hit

wooden quartz Dec 10, 2018, 4:29 AM

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all ill say from here on out would be that most roguelikes that don't offer any sort of checkpoint or level skip system don't have super involved, engaging stories like a supergiant game

void vigil Dec 10, 2018, 4:29 AM

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if youre good enough to actually not get hit they are useless, yes

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 4:29 AM

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But his problem is that he's getting hit a lot

hollow heron Dec 10, 2018, 4:29 AM

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so I'm taking things that only do something if I stuff up

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 4:29 AM

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Might as well make the hits work for him

wooden quartz Dec 10, 2018, 4:29 AM

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particularly not ones that have been confirmed will get longer and longer as time goes on

hollow heron Dec 10, 2018, 4:29 AM

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fair

void vigil Dec 10, 2018, 4:29 AM

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but with the million enemies she spawns its the only way i could beat her myself

tidal geyser Dec 10, 2018, 4:29 AM

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Okay so when you start a run sometimes, Hades comes and talks to you. What does this mean, are these runs actually different?

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 4:29 AM

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Lmao don't fight the randoms

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They just respawn instantly

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I kill the witches when I can, and let the thugs walk around pointlessly

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 4:30 AM

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That's not the only thing that will get longer....the mirror list will too

void vigil Dec 10, 2018, 4:30 AM

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theyre just extra lore cutscenes from what i gather

solar coral Dec 10, 2018, 4:30 AM

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Yeah, does the blood and darkness lines mean anything, cause I’ve seen that one twice now

wooden quartz Dec 10, 2018, 4:30 AM

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i feel like a good compromise would be to have a checkpoint after each boss, as well as have chaos rooms only activate after you've been to the boss once for the section and which skip 3 rooms or so for you

void vigil Dec 10, 2018, 4:31 AM

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i guess thats the curse of the underworld or something

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 4:31 AM

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@wooden quartz the game is too short to add checkpoints and skips

void vigil Dec 10, 2018, 4:31 AM

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the blood and darkness thing

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since it shows up first in the Curse cutscene

wooden quartz Dec 10, 2018, 4:31 AM

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yeah

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 4:31 AM

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@feral sequoia like with no boons

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 4:31 AM

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Easiest thing in Hades: the survival rooms

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 4:31 AM

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lol

wooden quartz Dec 10, 2018, 4:32 AM

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basically, have it be an assist mode for players who wouldn't be able to experience the story or game otherwise

void vigil Dec 10, 2018, 4:32 AM

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id say the fountain rooms are easiest

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i clear those in no time :')

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 4:32 AM

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those don't countttt lol

wooden quartz Dec 10, 2018, 4:32 AM

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i already kinda have difficulties playing games that require me to not die ever, because i have some severe coordination issues

void vigil Dec 10, 2018, 4:32 AM

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i know i know

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i jest

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 4:32 AM

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hardest rooms? Treasure Chests in Asphodel

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 4:33 AM

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I refuse to touch chests.... In Hades

wooden quartz Dec 10, 2018, 4:33 AM

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so, checkpoint after every boss seems fair

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it takes at least a few hours to get to meg

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 4:33 AM

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But back to @solar coral , just watch her attack patterns and take pot shots when she dashes at you. Her spiral can be dodged with careful movement and her Big-Portal-In-The-Floor can be dodged with just walking and a dash if you need

void vigil Dec 10, 2018, 4:33 AM

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easiest for me are the rooms where numbskulls just spawn one after the other

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the shield pops them like grapes

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 4:33 AM

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treasure chest in Tartarus are a piece of a cake. but in asphodel it gets u killed

wooden quartz Dec 10, 2018, 4:33 AM

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thats a LOT to grind back through if you fail

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 4:33 AM

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... exactly

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 4:33 AM

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But its a roguelite

wooden quartz Dec 10, 2018, 4:33 AM

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esp if you just barely scrape by

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 4:33 AM

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thats how it works

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 4:34 AM

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That's the point of a roguelite

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 4:34 AM

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and you get different permutations

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new items and boons and hammer upgrades

wooden quartz Dec 10, 2018, 4:34 AM

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okay but most roguelites dont have stories as involved as supergiant games

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 4:34 AM

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sure do

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Deadcells

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 4:34 AM

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@feral sequoia cuz you got gud

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also you get more mirror upgrades

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so you do rooms faster

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 4:34 AM

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@feral sequoia same, once I learned to get through the early rooms QUICK the runs got really fast

wooden quartz Dec 10, 2018, 4:35 AM

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it would just be a shame if i wasn't able to experience the game when it releases because the difficulty is deemed integral to the experience.

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there would be a lot in the same boat

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 4:35 AM

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But for games like this the difficult is the game

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 4:35 AM

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We need to see who did the first boon only run through meg

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 4:35 AM

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and the story in hades just progresses if u die over and over

sterile peak Dec 10, 2018, 4:35 AM

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difficult is kinda the entire genre's thing

wooden quartz Dec 10, 2018, 4:35 AM

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but they also had systems in palce that allowed players to control their difficulty

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 4:35 AM

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transistor you had your own difficulty

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with limiters

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and bastion had those statues

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 4:36 AM

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@feral sequoia transistor had optional difficulty upgrades

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 4:36 AM

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Bastion had the gods

wooden quartz Dec 10, 2018, 4:36 AM

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the base game of transistor is challenging but manageable for those with coordination issues or who simply just don't play games well

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 4:36 AM

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chaos gates for the speedruns yo

wooden quartz Dec 10, 2018, 4:36 AM

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limiters make for a much more dynamic difficulty for more skilled players

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 4:37 AM

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I mean, it sucks but I don't think they can make the difficulty level too low without compromising on the actual game

wooden quartz Dec 10, 2018, 4:37 AM

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im unsure how chaos gates currently work?

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 4:37 AM

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you go in

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and get an item

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 4:37 AM

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I feel that Hades might be easier with a controller. I was using mouse and keyboard. I would constantly shoot in the opposite way

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 4:37 AM

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at the cost of HP

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 4:37 AM

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Maybe this game is just not for you if its to hard or frustrating. Whats wrong with it?

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 4:37 AM

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@shell phoenix 100%. Supergiant makes their games FOR controller, and the auto aim they give you is so good

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 4:37 AM

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The auto aim is so good in this game

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It's not overpowering, but helps

sterile peak Dec 10, 2018, 4:38 AM

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I prefer k+m for this personally

wooden quartz Dec 10, 2018, 4:38 AM

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i don't think that simple compression of early content as well as saved progress at major milestones would compromise the vision of the game too much, especially if checkpoints brought you back with limited power

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 4:38 AM

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tfw you made the game much harder by using a different peripheral

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as in me

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 4:39 AM

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Although certain story can only be unlocked by talking to Meg, which you only get... by beating her

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 4:39 AM

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which, you know

sterile peak Dec 10, 2018, 4:39 AM

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yeah I mean I'm at 30 runs and only reached asphodel's boss once, but I've still not missed out on anything

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 4:39 AM

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you play more and run through the same stuff

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 4:39 AM

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and every time I beat her she's in a conversation when I come back which doesn't increment the counter

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 4:39 AM

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and then you git gud and are like, wow im at meg wtih full HP

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 4:40 AM

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(does it?)

wooden quartz Dec 10, 2018, 4:40 AM

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pyre also played around with difficulty in an interesting way, where you could still progress even if you were miserable at the game

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 4:40 AM

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I did that before. I got a fatal error.

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 4:40 AM

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it does count

wooden quartz Dec 10, 2018, 4:40 AM

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and nudged you to be more risky to play

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 4:40 AM

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I'm complaining for nothing then 🤷

wooden quartz Dec 10, 2018, 4:40 AM

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the closest i've gotten to beating meg has been 25% hp

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 4:40 AM

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I didn't buy pyre. No opinion there

wooden quartz Dec 10, 2018, 4:40 AM

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i think i've gotten to her about 6 times

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 4:41 AM

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@wooden quartz how much darkness have you built up? What upgrades have you invested it in?

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 4:41 AM

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we need more dashes shadesmile

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 4:42 AM

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I personally upgraded my health regen and cast first, then did dashes and revive

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 4:42 AM

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Invest in Dodgechains, Cast and revive

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 4:42 AM

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I think the 3 health regen per room is pretty sweet

wooden quartz Dec 10, 2018, 4:42 AM

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like, difficult games aren't exactly a problem for me, i've beaten and loved hyper light drifter

but i do not think it's fair to lock people out of an experience, as is possible to happen for me, to enforce a challenge

slender linden Dec 10, 2018, 4:42 AM

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pyre also had an easy mode

brisk trail Dec 10, 2018, 4:43 AM

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I tried playing Hyper Light Drifter the other day, hoping that I'd love it as much as Transistor. But then .. I didn't :(

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 4:43 AM

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But Hades only progresses if u die?

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 4:43 AM

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I love HLD!

wooden quartz Dec 10, 2018, 4:43 AM

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you can still die and have checkpoints

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 4:43 AM

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Probably one of my favorites

wooden quartz Dec 10, 2018, 4:44 AM

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even if you have checkpoints, you will still die in the next section

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 4:44 AM

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I tried to kill the first boss right from the start, died 2 times and uninstalled. GG.

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 4:44 AM

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But you'll amass much less darkness, slowing progression @wooden quartz . Which itself is not a big deal

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 4:44 AM

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In hld

slender linden Dec 10, 2018, 4:44 AM

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it'd be great if there was an option to turn on/off the checkpoints

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 4:44 AM

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but u need to KILL Meg in order to progress the story, and not by skipping her

wooden quartz Dec 10, 2018, 4:45 AM

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does meg need to be killed multiple times to progress the story?

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 4:45 AM

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yes

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 4:45 AM

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You can only talk to her by killing her

wooden quartz Dec 10, 2018, 4:45 AM

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then place the checkpoint before the boss

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 4:45 AM

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she has currently like 15 dialogues or somethin

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 4:45 AM

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... then what's the point?

brisk trail Dec 10, 2018, 4:45 AM

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Doesn't sound like she's very killed if she still chats :P

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 4:45 AM

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You still need to fight her, but with much less gear

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 4:45 AM

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and whats with Charon and Sysiphus?

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U need to talk to them aswell

solemn solar Dec 10, 2018, 4:45 AM

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they good beans

shell phoenix Dec 10, 2018, 4:46 AM

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I wish I could understand Charon

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I don't speak ghoul

wooden quartz Dec 10, 2018, 4:46 AM

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oh well. i guess if i can't beat the game, i won't be able to beat the game. it'll be disappointing but i suppose i might not be able to experience the story.

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 4:46 AM

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If u skip it all u would lock yourself out of experience

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Charon is best buddy tho

slender linden Dec 10, 2018, 4:47 AM

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i'm sure you'll beat it eventually, it'll just be very frustrating

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 4:48 AM

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imo its only frustrating if u don't know what killed you. since this game shows you well how u die it was never rly frustrating

slender linden Dec 10, 2018, 4:50 AM

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it's frustrating if you die to the same thing over and over because you're not as skilled at video games

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that's fair with bosses

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 4:50 AM

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But since everything has reasonably set mechanics for fighting it, you can eventually gain enough experience to know how to avoid it

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 4:51 AM

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^

wooden quartz Dec 10, 2018, 4:51 AM

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look, if celeste is able to basically give the game to you and still remain an engaging, intense platformer that does not sacrifice any of its identity, it is not impossible for this game to at least open the game up more broadly for less than skilled or abled players.

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 4:51 AM

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You'll also know which boons are, frankly, bad. Avoid those and you have a good boost

slender linden Dec 10, 2018, 4:51 AM

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knowing how and actually executing the move is two different things

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#accessibility

sterile peak Dec 10, 2018, 4:55 AM

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Does anyone know when the rest of the ost will be on spotify?

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right now its just one song

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 4:55 AM

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I believe there's a youtube soundtrack somewhere if you want, but I have no idea about spotify

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@sterile peak yep, if you go to their youtube there's individual videos for every (?) song

sterile peak Dec 10, 2018, 4:57 AM

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yeah I know about the youtube, I was just wondering

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 4:58 AM

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Hades is supposed to be a game set in the rougelike genre. Rougelikes/lites are drawing there essence from dying over and over and eventually suceed just to die again. This is made by making the game itself rly challenging and sometimes unfair. If you aren't the Person who likes to always start from the beginning just to die again in the next minute, this isn't the game for you. But if u still wanna play it you have to get better, as dumb as it sounds. Hope you guys get my point, english is not my mother tounge.

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 4:59 AM

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Perfectly readable

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 5:00 AM

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So at this point don't compare Hades with a game from a whole different genre. And neither compare it with Pyre/Bastion/Transistor...just doesn't make sense

hollow heron Dec 10, 2018, 5:02 AM

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I think they'll definitely add a system to allow more casual players to get the story

slender linden Dec 10, 2018, 5:02 AM

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that'd be great, yeah

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 5:02 AM

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How it will be done, though, is up in the air

hollow heron Dec 10, 2018, 5:02 AM

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(also the best part of celeste is the platforming why the hell would you use assist mode)

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 5:02 AM

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Less enemies? More health regen? More damage by the player?

slender linden Dec 10, 2018, 5:02 AM

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just maybe not something they want to focus right now, which is understandable

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 5:03 AM

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Exactly, it's at the very early stages of its early access

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 5:03 AM

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btw

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is a Dev QA planned?

olive jungle Dec 10, 2018, 5:03 AM

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Not currently but SGG does Q&A's from time to time

blazing palm Dec 10, 2018, 5:04 AM

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i'm pretty sure the bosses are tuned higher to provide a challenge since there's less content rn

olive jungle Dec 10, 2018, 5:04 AM

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You could also just @ kasavin on twitter

blazing palm Dec 10, 2018, 5:04 AM

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only one out of three fury sisters

midnight bay Dec 10, 2018, 5:04 AM

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Alright the dash attack upgrade for sword is actually pretty decent

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Makes it hit twice and crit both times

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 5:04 AM

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I wouldn't be surprised if they stayed where they are forever. Meg seems pretty good

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Actually using sword

hollow heron Dec 10, 2018, 5:04 AM

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yeah, I assume the bosses will be nerfed

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 5:05 AM

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Bosses are fine if not a bit annoying

hollow heron Dec 10, 2018, 5:05 AM

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because they aren't super great early game bosses

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hydra needs some changes no matter what

midnight bay Dec 10, 2018, 5:05 AM

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I think meg is fine where it’s at but for the love of god make hydra’s arena bigger

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 5:05 AM

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Is hydra on the last floor?

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 5:05 AM

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I wonder how they will design Hades as a boss

hollow heron Dec 10, 2018, 5:05 AM

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and meg needs hp nerfs like yesterday, and probably should spawn less adds. She's the first boss, she shouldn't be such a wall

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 5:05 AM

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I mean

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 5:05 AM

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I got to chamber 24 then died FeelsBad

midnight bay Dec 10, 2018, 5:06 AM

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Yeah hydra is asphodel’s boss

spice patrol Dec 10, 2018, 5:06 AM

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Maybe have less foes spawn in meg room, but the girl herself isn't too bad

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 5:06 AM

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its obvious that he will be endboss

midnight bay Dec 10, 2018, 5:06 AM

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Yeah the spawning is obnoxious

blazing palm Dec 10, 2018, 5:06 AM

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my only issue with meg is that her adds respawn instantly, so there's no point in dealing with them

midnight bay Dec 10, 2018, 5:06 AM

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I wouldn’t be surprised if Hades was just a feels boss

wooden quartz Dec 10, 2018, 5:06 AM

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@hollow heron if you have motor or coordination disabilities that keep you from playing or continuing on, or if you are unskilled enough or simply unable to move forward despite having fun with the games core concepts.

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 5:06 AM

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Why would you ever fight the enemies in Meg boss? They respawn so fast that they're just a distraction

hollow heron Dec 10, 2018, 5:06 AM

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thats fair

wooden quartz Dec 10, 2018, 5:07 AM

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this is literally why the game won the games for change award at TGA

hollow heron Dec 10, 2018, 5:07 AM

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I clear adds during circles and storm

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 5:07 AM

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The thugs will never hit you if you're moving fast, and the witches are so far away that they'll rarely shoot

midnight bay Dec 10, 2018, 5:07 AM

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Something like Aldia from DS2 where the point isn’t to provide a final challenge but to bring the story to a conclusion

hollow heron Dec 10, 2018, 5:07 AM

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I personally love difficult 2d platformers

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so the fair difficulty is really fun

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unfair difficulty is always BS

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y'all are assuming there isn't a twist

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its a supergiant game

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there's always an ending twist

wooden quartz Dec 10, 2018, 5:07 AM

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i do too but it is frustrating when you are having fun with a game but simply cannot progress because of a game design decision that means you cannot continue to enjoy it as you were

spice patrol Dec 10, 2018, 5:08 AM

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I'm just waiting for the game to pull a Ghosts N' Goblins and after you leave Hades you have to go back in to get Dusa. Cause can't leave best girl behind

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 5:08 AM

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Dunno I mean Hades is a frkn God

wooden quartz Dec 10, 2018, 5:08 AM

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i hope this game inverts the common supergiant structure of the tragedy with silver linings

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it starts out miserable but the ending is still happy, just not as planned

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 5:08 AM

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would be disappointing if he doesn't go all out on you

ocean notch Dec 10, 2018, 5:08 AM

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@acoustic plover Extra gold from the minions in the Meg fight. Easy enough to just farm it.

wooden quartz Dec 10, 2018, 5:08 AM

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i know to some extent some of these games do that

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but really its still a melancholy feeling for all of these

midnight bay Dec 10, 2018, 5:09 AM

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I mean both of bastion’s endings were kinda like that IMO

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Especially the revert ending but IDK if I should go more in-depth on it here

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On the note of bringing Dusa with you I actually think that would be a really neat concept

blazing palm Dec 10, 2018, 5:11 AM

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but then who would dust the building

midnight bay Dec 10, 2018, 5:11 AM

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Being able to bring someone along with you, would add to the replayability I think because you’d want to clear it with everyone

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 5:11 AM

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Cerberus for a dog walk

midnight bay Dec 10, 2018, 5:12 AM

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My man Achilles deserves one last wild ride

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 5:12 AM

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Maybe you need full conversation and full hearts with a person to take them out?

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Would be a cool reward for story progression

slender linden Dec 10, 2018, 5:12 AM

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ok so im not actually that far yet but i need to know. can you pet Cerberus?

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 5:12 AM

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Planned

spice patrol Dec 10, 2018, 5:12 AM

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Make it turn the game into 1 big escort mission

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 5:12 AM

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The only times I've talked with him he just looks at me sadly :(

spice patrol Dec 10, 2018, 5:12 AM

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Can't let them get hurt

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 5:12 AM

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oh goodness

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no

midnight bay Dec 10, 2018, 5:13 AM

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Man imagine escorting someone through hydra

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 5:13 AM

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Cerberus is sad. He doesn't want u to leave

spice patrol Dec 10, 2018, 5:13 AM

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Imagine escorting them through the survive 60 seconds rooms?

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 5:13 AM

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OOF

midnight bay Dec 10, 2018, 5:13 AM

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Make it work exactly like isaac’s heart

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 5:13 AM

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and then someone gets stuck in a wall

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 5:13 AM

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Stuck in a wall would be good

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They can't get hit, and teleport to the next room with you

minor heron Dec 10, 2018, 5:14 AM

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holy crap, listening to the hades music for the first time, im immediately hooked

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 5:14 AM

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but what if they still get hit

midnight bay Dec 10, 2018, 5:14 AM

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I’ve had one of the witches get stuck in the wall in asphodel

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 5:14 AM

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but can't move

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 5:14 AM

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@minor heron it's Supergiant! What'd you expect?

midnight bay Dec 10, 2018, 5:14 AM

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Man can we make asphodel better

spice patrol Dec 10, 2018, 5:14 AM

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I've had one of the blue crystals do it @midnight bay

minor heron Dec 10, 2018, 5:14 AM

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i know, i know, im just super wxcited

spice patrol Dec 10, 2018, 5:15 AM

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That was a very painful and frustrating way to die

minor heron Dec 10, 2018, 5:15 AM

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excited

midnight bay Dec 10, 2018, 5:15 AM

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Lmao RIP

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 5:15 AM

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Asphodel feels rly buggy sometimes

olive jungle Dec 10, 2018, 5:15 AM

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Yeah it does

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It definitely feels less polished than Tartarus

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 5:15 AM

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Have you picked up the game yet @minor heron ? Just opened it?

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 5:15 AM

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yup

midnight bay Dec 10, 2018, 5:15 AM

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I particularly like its interaction with shield throw

olive jungle Dec 10, 2018, 5:15 AM

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The optimization is rough, too

ocean notch Dec 10, 2018, 5:15 AM

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Maybe bring their soul orbs or something. Likd you'd do in pyre with the balls. Take it as like a buff or a charm

midnight bay Dec 10, 2018, 5:15 AM

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Guess I just don’t get to use my attack for the next 10 seconds

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 5:15 AM

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I hate the fact that u sometimes can't see the next room rewards

minor heron Dec 10, 2018, 5:15 AM

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i dont have the kind of money to buy a game, or the time to play for that matter...honestly though, im seriously debating getting hades rn

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 5:16 AM

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definitly needs a fix

midnight bay Dec 10, 2018, 5:16 AM

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Being able to damage yourself in the gate transitions is also a meme and a half

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 5:16 AM

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How can you hurt yourself in transition?

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Sounds like fun

blazing palm Dec 10, 2018, 5:16 AM

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the lava

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?

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 5:16 AM

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. /s

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 5:16 AM

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JUST DO IT @minor heron game is great

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 5:17 AM

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~~But don't compromise your budget or anything~~

midnight bay Dec 10, 2018, 5:17 AM

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Well not in transition but you can run into the lava right by the gate

minor heron Dec 10, 2018, 5:17 AM

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lol

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 5:17 AM

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it's holiday time anyway right?

slender linden Dec 10, 2018, 5:17 AM

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yeah the game can wait, try to save~

minor heron Dec 10, 2018, 5:17 AM

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part of me wants to play pyre at some point too

midnight bay Dec 10, 2018, 5:17 AM

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It’s my mistake and I could avoid it by not being dumb but my lizard brain makes me just try to run onto the raft thing

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 5:18 AM

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Ah, like that

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Just don't do that

midnight bay Dec 10, 2018, 5:18 AM

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Putting like an invisible wall there to prevent dumbness would be a nice QoL change

acoustic plover Dec 10, 2018, 5:18 AM

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Survival of the fittest

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I actually wasted my last revive once by dashing really badly

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Once the room was done

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 5:21 AM

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The moments your brain sleeps and u want to catch your Cast Crystal on the lava field just to get killed by it

hushed narwhal Dec 10, 2018, 5:48 AM

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Any word on if Hades will have Mac early access?

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 5:51 AM

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https://imgur.com/5ds27My Highest DMG number ive been able to get. Anyone manage to go higher? I think with the shield throw you could get a crazy large number.

Imgur

olive jungle Dec 10, 2018, 5:54 AM

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@hushed narwhal it doesn't sound like it will, no

charred yoke Dec 10, 2018, 6:05 AM

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Wasn't stained glass invented after the end of ancient Greece?

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 6:06 AM

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But consider this. Who knows when the game takes place.

silent raft Dec 10, 2018, 6:06 AM

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Aye, and so were indestructible boomerang shields, so we can't say for certain either way

charred yoke Dec 10, 2018, 6:07 AM

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Sandwiches weren't invented until the 1700s, but you have it as a food option

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 6:08 AM

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Sandwiches existed for millenia

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But that stupid Earl of Sandwich had to go and take credit, like he was the first man to eat meat on bread.

charred yoke Dec 10, 2018, 6:09 AM

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Ancient Greece takes place around 800 BC. The Earl of Sandwich is from 1792

olive jungle Dec 10, 2018, 6:09 AM

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technically that sandwich is a gyro 😛

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 6:09 AM

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Yeah and bread wasn't invented until 1750

olive jungle Dec 10, 2018, 6:09 AM

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also they're gods and they can do what they want

patent epoch Dec 10, 2018, 6:10 AM

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also

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 6:10 AM

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It is indeed gyro me patates

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the best way to eat

wooden quartz Dec 10, 2018, 6:10 AM

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feel like the twist will be that the game takes place in modern times and near the end of the story you'll have to fight and/or exist in the real world

olive jungle Dec 10, 2018, 6:10 AM

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i haven't had a gyro in a year and a half

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 6:10 AM

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tho in my opinion you should pop those suckers inside the gyro, makes it way better

patent epoch Dec 10, 2018, 6:10 AM

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just because it features greek gods, doesn't mean the games set then

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 6:10 AM

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yeah that was the first point i brought up

patent epoch Dec 10, 2018, 6:10 AM

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technically they can still be 'alive' now

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 6:10 AM

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Well, dead

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:^)

patent epoch Dec 10, 2018, 6:10 AM

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yeah

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hence ''

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 6:10 AM

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:^(

patent epoch Dec 10, 2018, 6:10 AM

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lol

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4.3k is nuts

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here I am gettin 10's with mah sword

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 6:12 AM

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dont talk about the sword... I tried doing some more "new file" runs today and it makes me hate my life

patent epoch Dec 10, 2018, 6:12 AM

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ah rly?

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 6:12 AM

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and I havent even gotten past meg

patent epoch Dec 10, 2018, 6:12 AM

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sword runs?

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its hard man

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 6:12 AM

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no like the literal first run in a new file

patent epoch Dec 10, 2018, 6:12 AM

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I beat her once with the sword

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 6:12 AM

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where you have the tutorial bit

patent epoch Dec 10, 2018, 6:12 AM

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ooohhhh

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yeah

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gl

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 6:13 AM

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I think i should just focus my time on something productive

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Like earning that degree :p

patent epoch Dec 10, 2018, 6:13 AM

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yeah like more hades

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oh

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nah

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more hades

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 6:13 AM

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That's why I speedrun, to get as much Hades in my small amount of time as possible lgwSmoog

patent epoch Dec 10, 2018, 6:13 AM

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bahahaha

wooden quartz Dec 10, 2018, 6:14 AM

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i still haven't gotten past meg and im about halfway through the mirror upgrades

patent epoch Dec 10, 2018, 6:14 AM

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have you tried the shield tac?

wooden quartz Dec 10, 2018, 6:14 AM

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its all i've been using

patent epoch Dec 10, 2018, 6:14 AM

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o

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maybe try spear

wooden quartz Dec 10, 2018, 6:14 AM

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maybe

patent epoch Dec 10, 2018, 6:14 AM

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spear is super fun

charred yoke Dec 10, 2018, 6:15 AM

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@wooden quartz Throw the shield at Meg while running away the whole time

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 6:15 AM

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have you tried using the bow!

wooden quartz Dec 10, 2018, 6:15 AM

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still getting hit by everyone else

patent epoch Dec 10, 2018, 6:15 AM

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lmao

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was about to say 'inb4 dino suggests bow'

solemn solar Dec 10, 2018, 6:15 AM

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Shield, titan toppler, and the shield upgrade that deflects when you take damage will make the fight a lot easyer

wooden quartz Dec 10, 2018, 6:15 AM

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and the throwy never does enough damage to make a good dent

patent epoch Dec 10, 2018, 6:15 AM

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yeah I never throw the shield tbh

wooden quartz Dec 10, 2018, 6:15 AM

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i have tried the bow and i hate it

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i never use cast either

charred yoke Dec 10, 2018, 6:16 AM

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@wooden quartz Run around the stadium along the walls, stay out of the middle

solemn solar Dec 10, 2018, 6:16 AM

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pretty much any ability that deflects

wooden quartz Dec 10, 2018, 6:16 AM

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cast seems useless

patent epoch Dec 10, 2018, 6:16 AM

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ah if you get a decent cast boon its great

solemn solar Dec 10, 2018, 6:16 AM

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like areis'

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his cast boon is great

patent epoch Dec 10, 2018, 6:16 AM

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I think bow is best weapon atm

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but its hard to use effectively

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triple dash is essential

solemn solar Dec 10, 2018, 6:16 AM

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i can never get used to the bow

cedar hollow Dec 10, 2018, 6:17 AM

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Sword is the best weapon. Everyone knows this

patent epoch Dec 10, 2018, 6:17 AM

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soz curly you right you right

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it seriously needs a big buff

charred yoke Dec 10, 2018, 6:17 AM

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@patent epoch What do you need for triple dash?

wooden quartz Dec 10, 2018, 6:17 AM

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tons of darkness

patent epoch Dec 10, 2018, 6:17 AM

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darkness, my friend

solemn solar Dec 10, 2018, 6:17 AM

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i like the sword. wide, fast, sweeping attakes

patent epoch Dec 10, 2018, 6:17 AM

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not tons

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300ish total right?

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I can't remember

solemn solar Dec 10, 2018, 6:18 AM

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its a good bit of darkness

cedar hollow Dec 10, 2018, 6:18 AM

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The sword would be fun if the base damage was higher.

solemn solar Dec 10, 2018, 6:18 AM

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if it wasent for posidons boon i never could have gotton it

patent epoch Dec 10, 2018, 6:18 AM

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ehh the sword needs a few buffs

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 6:18 AM

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its like 90+250 i think

patent epoch Dec 10, 2018, 6:18 AM

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cooldown buff

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 6:19 AM

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so 340 off the top of my head

patent epoch Dec 10, 2018, 6:19 AM

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base damage buff

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then it'd be alright

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do you think they'll give shield deflect back @burnt pond

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?

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 6:20 AM

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Nah

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that made it way too busted

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I think its a boon from athena, right?

patent epoch Dec 10, 2018, 6:20 AM

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yeah

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but that was already there

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in game

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 6:20 AM

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Yep

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I could see a possibility later on of gifts that improve something on your starting weapon

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Not like the Daedalus hammer, but something else, if that makes sense

patent epoch Dec 10, 2018, 6:21 AM

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yeah I feel you

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 6:21 AM

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So shield could get deflect back, Sword could get a relevant special

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idunno

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That way you could judge having the deflect of your shield, and missing out on another gift like the collar or the god gifts

charred yoke Dec 10, 2018, 6:23 AM

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Anyone have a zoom-in of the Aphrodite bedroom poster?

olive jungle Dec 10, 2018, 6:24 AM

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it's still just a sketch right now isn't it?

charred yoke Dec 10, 2018, 6:25 AM

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Is it?

olive jungle Dec 10, 2018, 6:29 AM

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yeah, it is

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just rough lineart and flat color right now

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/520451817323364352/521330075958902794/2018-12-09_16_18_56-Greenshot.png?width=1192&height=671

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 6:29 AM

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Maybe that's the actual poster

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And you got scammed out of your 500 drachma

olive jungle Dec 10, 2018, 6:30 AM

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its ok there's plenty more down there, he lives in the earth after all. lots of gold floating around

pliant wolf Dec 10, 2018, 6:33 AM

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I'm kinda hoping they don't do the rouge like troupe where you need to retrace your steps

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Even though it would mean an incredible hades fight

charred yoke Dec 10, 2018, 6:34 AM

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Ah, so Aphrodite is naked in the poster....

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Zagreus is Aphrodite's cousin

lyric scroll Dec 10, 2018, 6:35 AM

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greek mythology Be Like That

frosty gyro Dec 10, 2018, 6:35 AM

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they all related man

charred yoke Dec 10, 2018, 6:36 AM

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Kissin' Kousins

frosty gyro Dec 10, 2018, 6:36 AM

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if you're a greek god, you're a child born of incest

lyric scroll Dec 10, 2018, 6:37 AM

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and its a near 100% chance you're either zeus's kid or youve slept with him

charred yoke Dec 10, 2018, 6:38 AM

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lol

ember fossil Dec 10, 2018, 6:39 AM

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Strictly speaking Aphrodite wasn't born, she emerged from sea foam after Cronus castrated his father and chucked the relevant bits in the ocean.

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So you know. Incest is a relative term.

frosty gyro Dec 10, 2018, 6:40 AM

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true true

charred yoke Dec 10, 2018, 6:40 AM

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In Homer's Iliad, however, she is the daughter of Zeus and Dione.

olive jungle Dec 10, 2018, 6:41 AM

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Persephone is Hades'....niece?
Hades' sister's daughter. Niece.

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and she's the daughter of Demeter and Zeus, who were themselves siblings, so

frosty gyro Dec 10, 2018, 6:43 AM

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yeah

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problem?

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I would argue it's not as bad as the norse family tree

charred yoke Dec 10, 2018, 6:44 AM

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Someone needs to map out a family tree here...

ember fossil Dec 10, 2018, 6:44 AM

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I don't know, at least with the norse the Aesir and Vanir intermarried. The greeks are all one family from top to bottom.

olive jungle Dec 10, 2018, 6:44 AM

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oh yeah no i'm not saying it's a problem, i'm just pointing out that like all the relationships are technically incestuous lol

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mythology Be Like That

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across many, many pantheons

frosty gyro Dec 10, 2018, 6:44 AM

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well it probably reflects the culture in the society

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cuz without fast transportation liike we have today you're limited to people near you

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and people near you are your family soo

olive jungle Dec 10, 2018, 6:45 AM

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i mean yeah of course mythology is always rooted in culture but like

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that's silly lmao

charred yoke Dec 10, 2018, 6:45 AM

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So if Aphrodite has the hots for her cousin Zagreus, could his aunts Athena and Artemis be far behind?

frosty gyro Dec 10, 2018, 6:46 AM

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except for greeks cuz oedipus was not allowed to have incest

olive jungle Dec 10, 2018, 6:46 AM

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anyways if we're gonna get into cultural absolutism arguments can we take it to #off-topic-discussion because i'd love to use my anthropology degree

ember fossil Dec 10, 2018, 6:46 AM

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At the distance of third or fourth cousins you're not really risking anything genetically anyway, and you're probably not socially close enough for things to be weird either, so.

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 6:46 AM

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There is a logic reason why the greek pantheon family tree is a circle

charred yoke Dec 10, 2018, 6:47 AM

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lol

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 6:47 AM

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its not that Gods are coming from all over the universe to meet the Greek Gods

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They are all alone

frosty gyro Dec 10, 2018, 6:47 AM

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anyway

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I can't wait to actually get hades

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by golly gee supergiant just makes me lose money every time

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worth it though

charred yoke Dec 10, 2018, 6:48 AM

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I want to know what is behind Door #1, and Door #2

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"Stay out of there!"

frosty gyro Dec 10, 2018, 6:48 AM

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probably look in #h1-story-discussion

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idk I refuse to open that channel

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 6:49 AM

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somethin that comes with the next updates

olive jungle Dec 10, 2018, 6:50 AM

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yeah, it's all still locked up right now

frosty gyro Dec 10, 2018, 6:51 AM

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so I assume hades will come onto steam once it's done

olive jungle Dec 10, 2018, 6:51 AM

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probably

charred yoke Dec 10, 2018, 6:54 AM

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Can any being in Hades not 'die'? When you destroy an enemy, are they just reanimated like Zagreus?

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 6:54 AM

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yes

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they already are in the underworld

prisma wind Dec 10, 2018, 6:56 AM

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I suppose in the future if any living characters made their way into Hades, then they could "die" once, anyway 😆

charred yoke Dec 10, 2018, 6:56 AM

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So why are there dead skulls of Medusa and Cyclops in Zagreus' room?

frosty gyro Dec 10, 2018, 6:56 AM

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omg add orpheus

prisma wind Dec 10, 2018, 6:56 AM

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I imagine because those are from their once-living remains

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And not the reanimated dead ones?

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 6:56 AM

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^

charred yoke Dec 10, 2018, 6:57 AM

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Where did they get the remains if none of them can get out of Hades and go to the surface?

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 6:57 AM

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probably souvenirs

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Hades can leave the Underworld

prisma wind Dec 10, 2018, 6:57 AM

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It's the lively import/export business that Hades runs Kappa

vestal lodge Dec 10, 2018, 6:58 AM

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Perseus could come into Hades with a Gorgon skull on him. Charon could confiscate it 🤷‍♂️

frosty gyro Dec 10, 2018, 6:58 AM

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yep

charred yoke Dec 10, 2018, 6:58 AM

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Hades Amazon

frosty gyro Dec 10, 2018, 6:59 AM

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*craigslist

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 6:59 AM

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Hamazon

prisma wind Dec 10, 2018, 7:00 AM

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The Hades equivalent of Amazon would just be Styx...

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 7:01 AM

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oh

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you are right

prisma wind Dec 10, 2018, 7:01 AM

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Have you all signed up for Styx Prime, though?

drowsy karma Dec 10, 2018, 7:02 AM

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Is there a wiki for Hades yet? xD

charred yoke Dec 10, 2018, 7:02 AM

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So if Sandra's orb is in Zagreus' room, then The Reader from Pyre is officially dead

errant torrent Dec 10, 2018, 7:02 AM

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i didn't where else to ask this, but i figured i'll just ask in general. there pretty many character portraits that are quite similar. but i guess those are placeholder until the final art is done, right?

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didn't know*

prisma wind Dec 10, 2018, 7:02 AM

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Correct, @errant torrent

covert salmon Dec 10, 2018, 7:03 AM

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Will supergiant be uploading the currently released songs onto apple music?

errant torrent Dec 10, 2018, 7:03 AM

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okay, nice.

covert salmon Dec 10, 2018, 7:03 AM

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I really want to hear them on my speaker but it can only connect there

charred yoke Dec 10, 2018, 7:03 AM

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They're on YouTube

covert salmon Dec 10, 2018, 7:03 AM

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I want to support supergiant by buying them though, porting the mp3 would make me feel bad

frosty gyro Dec 10, 2018, 7:03 AM

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it'll probably be on bandcamp too seeing as pyre's was (maybe other games too idr)

drowsy karma Dec 10, 2018, 7:04 AM

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I've supported SGG by buying the game for a friend xD

frosty gyro Dec 10, 2018, 7:04 AM

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yeah bastion and transisitor are on it

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 7:04 AM

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Yo hold up I just wanna comment on the discussion like 20 minutes ago about incest between the gods and stuff

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They cant be judged like mortals are

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Like who is Hera going to marry, one of the other gods who are her sibling?

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Also Aphrodite is just, yknow

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lewd lgwLewd

charred yoke Dec 10, 2018, 7:05 AM

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I got my Transistor vinyl autographed by Darren and Ashley last year. I don't even own a record player.

prisma wind Dec 10, 2018, 7:05 AM

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The chat moves too fast here, doesn't it? I feel like I miss so much discussion when I am away from Discord, but it's too much to read the backlog all the time 😆

drowsy karma Dec 10, 2018, 7:05 AM

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There we go into nsfw territory xD

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 7:05 AM

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its not NSFW

drowsy karma Dec 10, 2018, 7:05 AM

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Isn't it?

charred yoke Dec 10, 2018, 7:05 AM

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Who is at work at 11pm on a Sunday??

frosty gyro Dec 10, 2018, 7:05 AM

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technically a lot of things are nsfw

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 7:05 AM

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The topic of incest isnt NSFW

frosty gyro Dec 10, 2018, 7:05 AM

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such as swearing

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 7:06 AM

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Talking on a video game discord during work isnt SFW

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Get back to your desk 😠

drowsy karma Dec 10, 2018, 7:06 AM

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Well, its noon of monday for me, lol.

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I work from home, everything is SFW for me.

prisma wind Dec 10, 2018, 7:07 AM

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What is and isn't SFW really depends on where you work, I reckon

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 7:07 AM

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Yeah what if you work in the art department for Supergiant games and you have to draw an image of the Goddess of Love and Sex and stuff, Aphrodite?

ember fossil Dec 10, 2018, 7:07 AM

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When in Rome, do as the Romans do, if you know what I mean.

vestal lodge Dec 10, 2018, 7:07 AM

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@charred yoke I am.

drowsy karma Dec 10, 2018, 7:07 AM

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Lol.

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 7:07 AM

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Appropriate the Greek pantheon?

drowsy karma Dec 10, 2018, 7:08 AM

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On that topic, i can't wait for more art of Meg.

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 7:08 AM

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Heck yeah!

prisma wind Dec 10, 2018, 7:08 AM

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@vestal lodge I thought you said you were taking today off 😝

errant torrent Dec 10, 2018, 7:08 AM

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@burnt pond oh boi, i love aprodites art

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 7:08 AM

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I can't wait for more interactions with Dusa where she doesn't get shy and run away

vestal lodge Dec 10, 2018, 7:08 AM

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@prisma wind I did. It’s night.

frosty gyro Dec 10, 2018, 7:08 AM

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who is meg short for I need a little sneak

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 7:08 AM

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When she recites what she has cleaned and dusted she doesnt, ant I think there is one for

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Megaera

drowsy karma Dec 10, 2018, 7:09 AM

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Megaera, first boss.

wooden quartz Dec 10, 2018, 7:09 AM

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@vestal lodge will you guys be considering more assist/accessibility options for unskilled or less ablebodied players?

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 7:09 AM

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The most mediocre summon from Golden Sun 2

frosty gyro Dec 10, 2018, 7:09 AM

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who's megaera

covert salmon Dec 10, 2018, 7:09 AM

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Who is meg? Haven't got the game so i dont know yet

frosty gyro Dec 10, 2018, 7:09 AM

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oh it's a fury

covert salmon Dec 10, 2018, 7:09 AM

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ah

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 7:09 AM

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First boss, one of the Furies in Greek mythology

frosty gyro Dec 10, 2018, 7:10 AM

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is thanatos gonna be a boss

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I hope he is

charred yoke Dec 10, 2018, 7:10 AM

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@vestal lodge lol

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 7:10 AM

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I mean, who else is the one taking you back

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I guess Charon is

drowsy karma Dec 10, 2018, 7:10 AM

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We need more weapons and more gods, i crave for that~

frosty gyro Dec 10, 2018, 7:10 AM

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idk maybe tartarus

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 7:10 AM

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Thanatos is probably gonna be in there, since we have Nyx, and his brother Hypnos

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Tartarus is the first area

charred yoke Dec 10, 2018, 7:10 AM

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I have to think that they've got to include Greek Fire as a weapon... (a flamethrower)

covert salmon Dec 10, 2018, 7:10 AM

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while i've got you here @vestal lodge, do you guys have any plans to upload the currently released music on apple music? or are you guys waiting until its all done to release it all?

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 7:11 AM

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It isnt really an entity

charred yoke Dec 10, 2018, 7:11 AM

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Kopis

frosty gyro Dec 10, 2018, 7:11 AM

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cronus would be sick

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 7:11 AM

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Magic weapon lgwHype

vestal lodge Dec 10, 2018, 7:11 AM

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@wooden quartz absolutely! We’re still only 3 days into early access, but I’m hopeful we can at some point!

frosty gyro Dec 10, 2018, 7:11 AM

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tartarus is a god technically

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 7:11 AM

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Yeah hes one of those weird primordial beings like Gaia and Chaos

finite mantle Dec 10, 2018, 7:12 AM

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Meg is like... So... [longing gaze] Baaaby... T__T ❤

drowsy karma Dec 10, 2018, 7:12 AM

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Wait 3 days?

charred yoke Dec 10, 2018, 7:12 AM

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Megaera seems to be the only woman Zagreus isn't related to, so I bet a love story is in the works lol

drowsy karma Dec 10, 2018, 7:12 AM

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Does that mean i got it on the very first? xD

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 7:12 AM

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Which i guess makes sense, since Nyx is there,

frosty gyro Dec 10, 2018, 7:13 AM

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I feel like working in the muses wouldn't be too hard right?

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I mean I should probably play the game before making suggestions but oh well

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 7:13 AM

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I mean, all 9 of them maybe

frosty gyro Dec 10, 2018, 7:13 AM

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and having ambrosia as a form of healing is obvious

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 7:13 AM

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But Orpheus is in the game, so I am sure there is some plans there, at least for Euridice

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Yeah you should play the game bud

frosty gyro Dec 10, 2018, 7:13 AM

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I really should

drowsy karma Dec 10, 2018, 7:14 AM

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Ambrosia is a gift item, though, not healing?

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 7:14 AM

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then a lot of these thoughts would be stymied

drowsy karma Dec 10, 2018, 7:14 AM

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Also, contraband, if you know what i mean 😛

charred yoke Dec 10, 2018, 7:14 AM

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Is there a way to see how many hours you've played Hades on Epic Games, like there is with Steam?

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 7:14 AM

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You mean Contraband: The Best of Men at Work? lgwHype thats like the best album!

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 7:14 AM

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@vestal lodge you guys planning on doin some Dev Streams/Podcasts where u giving us a sneak peek on whats comin up?

finite mantle Dec 10, 2018, 7:14 AM

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Meg "You think you're so slick but you're not; but if you REALLY WANT ME TO CONFISCATE THIS I WILL, BAKA" The First Fury

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 7:15 AM

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Meg "Sometimes I am not disgusted by the sight and smell of you" Aera

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totally tsundere

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not worth the effort, Dusa is obviously best girl

finite mantle Dec 10, 2018, 7:15 AM

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Dusa is adoooraablle

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 7:15 AM

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Nah dude Meg is waifu

finite mantle Dec 10, 2018, 7:15 AM

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"Is this for me!? [FAINTS OF EXCITEMENT]"

drowsy karma Dec 10, 2018, 7:16 AM

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People did not recieve their shots of ambrosia because it were a contraband to give in.

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 7:16 AM

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Plus Achilles is cool af, and Hypnos has that kinda goofy deal about him that makes him neat

finite mantle Dec 10, 2018, 7:16 AM

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I legit love all the characters

drowsy karma Dec 10, 2018, 7:16 AM

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I still don't get what is the deal with Dusa.

finite mantle Dec 10, 2018, 7:16 AM

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Every time I visit Sisyphus it feels like chilling with an older brother or a best bud

drowsy karma Dec 10, 2018, 7:16 AM

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What happened to her body? Is it because she was beheaded?

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 7:16 AM

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basically Meg is bottom tier love interest

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YEah

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Perseus beheads the Gorgon Medusa

charred yoke Dec 10, 2018, 7:16 AM

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Dusa and Zagreus? Maybe, Dusa is a bit headstrong

drowsy karma Dec 10, 2018, 7:17 AM

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DINO, How dare you.

finite mantle Dec 10, 2018, 7:17 AM

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omfg

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 7:17 AM

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Hydra is better love interest than Meg

charred yoke Dec 10, 2018, 7:17 AM

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Dusa never be the head of a major corporation

drowsy karma Dec 10, 2018, 7:17 AM

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hyperventilating

burnt pond Dec 10, 2018, 7:17 AM

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SISYPHUS

lyric scroll Dec 10, 2018, 7:17 AM

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several people are typing..

charred yoke Dec 10, 2018, 7:17 AM

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Dusa the maid... not the way to get ahead in life

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Dusa... Not the time to lose one's head.

wooden quartz Dec 10, 2018, 7:18 AM

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@vestal lodge great, i'm glad to hear that! I love difficult games, but i have some coordination issues (dyspraxia) that keep me from being exactly great at games on first try, and as such games like action roguelites can be very frustrating to me if they have an actual end goal, although i love the general game design and idea of them. I have loved and adored every game you put out so far, and am very interested in what you have to help people in a similar position to me along.

as a just an idea: perhaps bosses can let you pass through if all story encountersn have been exhausted and the boss has been defeated at least once? something like "i do not have the heart for this and you have proven yourself more than worthy." it would help with retry frustration while keeping the core idea of a roguelike intact.

drowsy karma Dec 10, 2018, 7:19 AM

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Yeah, i feel bad for slaughtering Meg over and over again.

lost patrol Dec 10, 2018, 7:19 AM

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"NOT AGAAAIN!"

finite mantle Dec 10, 2018, 7:20 AM

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She actually recently told me, "Zag... Why must we always fight...?" before our battle