#h1-discussion
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Skull piles are a bit op imo
god i hate brimstones
brimstones sucked at first but I got used to them, multiple skull piles on different parts of the map are the worst thing imo
or those stupid blue once in the second area
hello
how come i cant install Hades? i bought it
Skull piles just. Do. Not. STOP.
^^^
and all the skullsstay alive
target those suckers early
;_;
as much as I hate skull piles I think from a design standpoint they're a really cool enemy
Yeah
since they force you to play aggressive
Brimstone has its trick, but skull piles are just blegh
is there a wikia for this game yet?
i make discord bots and would love to try making a wikia bot for this game
@gloomy hull I hear a lot of people are having the same problem. If you ask in the hades tech support channel I’m sure one of the devs (or someone who’s had the same problem) could help you :^)
They have just announced the game less than 24 hours ago XD
No, they don't have a wiki bot yet as far as I know
@winter cobalt where can i contact them?
reading shower thoughts
`The guy who wrote the “Percy Jackson” series was basically writing fanfiction about Greek mythology.
`
Is this Hades?
just another fanfiction?
When are the NSFW Zagreus x Achilles erotica coming? That's how we will know.
man i suck at fighting those fat ghosts
I'm enjoying the shield. Personal favorite of the weapons available so far.
@gloomy hull the tech support channel is two channels underneath this one. All you need to do is post your problem there
Tubby goblet bois are frustrating, yeah.
copy that
I hate those ghosts.
not in this server, but damn will i have my eyes open for zagchilles 👀 👀
two skeleton bros are sure possible to beat but damn I have to kite for like 5 minutes every time
yes
Mood but I feel more of a friendship between them. 😤 I may just need to get farther to get that bromance
I want to see the side adventure crossover event with Falcon Ron and Skelly as they try to rebuild the Bastion.
Yeah, as much as the olympian gods are actually Zag's aunts and uncles, Achilles feels more like an uncle to him to me
so not here for that ship
Is there word on when creation of a wiki will be started? @pastel coral
@vestal lodge You are probably more suited to answer this, since you are part of the dev team and I am just new
@graceful storm We typically don't do that ourselves!
Sooooo.... as soon as a motivated individual starts one up ❤
hfjdjf oh no i hope achilles isnt really his uncle 😱 i see them as on even-footing
"Footing" . . . nice Achilles joke.
I can see before me kamila wanting to make Hades and Achilles fan art
Hes a hero, not a god, so i didnt think they were related hfhfh
BA DUM TSSS
oh, no, I don't think he's literally an uncle, that's just the vibe I got from the relationship
.....PROBABLY,
HE GIVES ME TARIQ VIBES BC HIS VOICE OK
Ahhhhhhhhhhhh oh i get it!!
He is definitely 'mentor' material.
However, that makes him primed for a second act death.
😱 😱 😱 😱 😱
Don't tear out her heart like that @real wolf
Achilles and Nyx feel like the positive adult influences in Zag's life
Hades is Hades, and I do not trust the Olympians atm
55% done on my download
Idk. I feel like Aphrodite is TOTALLY trustworthy.
lmao
Not shady whatsoever
loving my <1mb/s download speed rn
i just like her 
does anyone have a full size image of Zagreus, I need it for drawing reference.
Everything online is only to the knees.
Oh, I definitely like her. But it is definitely not a conscious choice.
ive been told there are 20 or so characters in hades. are they all available to talk to in this build of the game?
I just noticed the trailer says "from the creators of bastion & transistor"
Anyone know why Epic Games Launcher won't let me install the game? :S
you forgot a game, my dudes.
pyre
20 fully-voiced characters!
Literally click install and it just flashes back to saying install
i guess its just because pyre is much more different from those other games
bastion and transistor have similar combat to hades
pyre
not so much
I feel like Pyre is talked about less as well
yeah
which is sorta sad, personally my favorite
same here
pyre is a niche game anyways
I love pyre tho
i love the game like its my game of the year for every year
i personally believe that pyre had the best narrative of the three games released so far

"several people are typing"
All of them have really great stories, but the two things that set Pyre apart for me are the extent to which they use mechanics for storytelling, and the depth of the worldbuilding
Yeah.

oh for sure, bastion and transistor are great games but pyre is my HEART my LIFE!!!!
Playing Bastian, Transistor and Pyre will show that the team learned over their years in terms of developing and telling a narrative with the gameplay
furious clickety clack
I still have a place in my heart for Bastion. Something special about it made it stick to me the longest.
Also, have you seen those crystalls in Hades?
I suspect the only reason they left Pyre out is so they wouldn't have to deal with the oxford comma
Bastion has some of the single most emotional moments for me of any of the games
it's honestly a hard choice between that and Pyre
(though I still love Transistor)
@atomic kelp 100% agree.
on the one hand you have people calling them stuck up for using it. On the other hand you have champions of correct grammar calling them out for not using it.
Whenever they attack, I expect Sandra to come out and Forbidden Knowledge to play.
hhhhh the scene that gets me most in basion is the walk through all the dead as rucks lists their names
That damn sound effect
Installing 😃
How does one change the name in this exact room?
Not my regular nickname, but local one?
if you're on the computer right click your name just above your message
Not sure you are able to
Is such a thing even possible?
and there'll be a change nickname option
tempest strike and flurry blade is a devastating combination
Oh. It's on PC.
Anyone else having trouble installing? I click install in the updated Epic Games Store and it doesn't do anything :/
Not sure the permissions for it are set up for regular users
wall splat damage through the roof
(You can do it on mobile as well, but the server still needs to give you permission to do so)
I can do it
OMG I LOVE THIS GAME ART STYLE!
In that case @ornate oak
- Hold on your name
- Click Manage User
- Fill inn Nickname where you can do that
- Save and you are done
I'm not exactly rich right now. Even with Russian discount (900 roubles or about 13.5 dollah) it's still a tad expensive for me.
Guess I'll buy it after New Year.
I feel like the rooms can get a little repetitive so I hope there's more visual stuff planned, but I absolutely love the look of everything in Hades palace
I might have some extra personal money.
and the characters
There we go.
There you go ^-^
No worries, happy to help ^-^
Don't know how I got "Incorporated" into my nickname, but it doesn't really matter.
It works :P
So does anyone use cast a lot?
just kinda curious what it's utility is for most people because I don't tend to do much with it so far
i dont
so far ive got the bow and i try and get aphrodites blessings
never relly use my cast
I mostly only used cast with one of the Ares gifts that made it into the spinning blade deal or when you get the second charge of it to do kinda chip damage to witches/brimstones
i really like cast + artemis so it aims automatically for me 
i barely ever use cast
that zeus bounce tho
the bomb enemies are hella hard though ive reached them twice but god are rhey hard to beat
if i talk to dusa and she flies away does that mean i can't give her a gift :c
Unfortunately not this time around! Maybe she'll be hanging out after your next death. 😄
Until you your next trip to the house yep!
wrangle her in with a rope like a cowboy and say YEE HAW, THIS IS RED DEAD REDEMPTION
THE SNAKE IS SO REALISTIC
Once you get the shield the bomb enemies are a piece of cake imo
just charge back and forth for a bit
Game Informer's @DanTack has been playing and enjoying Hades, the new game from @SupergiantGames. Watch us show off the surprising new game in this episode of New Gameplay Today! https://t.co/MWE9WG2c6M
97 unique conversation until i learn more about achilles?! is that a stand-in? because thats.. alot of unique dialogue
oihhh the hype
Does anyone know if Hades has ultrawide support?
no its not available in korea
F 😔
F
works for me as long as i dont have to play in windowed
cool pillarbox art?? aw man, i wanna see but i have no ultrawide :c
@brisk trail unrelated but im gonna need the source for that desolator crystal maiden profile picture
it was posted on r/dota2 sometime last year i think
If it's acting weird... let us know!
Does anyone know how far the game goes at the moment? 😃
I’m bad at these types of games so I only know of the first part
It is strange though if i access the website by VPN, It is prefectly translated in Korean
I just guess I can play this game soon?
just hope
I've got out of tartarus once
It's super fun!- I thought we'd have to wait until 2020 for the next supergiant game 
Thank you Supergiant, it's a great fun game so far!
download is finally done 
Welcome to the party @brazen lake!
It’s a shame i won’t be able to play until MS returns my computer.
I have it downloaded I just need to get home aaaaaaaaaaa
is anyone working toward the creation of a wiki?
Hey all! I just added a #h1-builds-and-combat channel so people can discuss that stuff in more specific detail without talking through more general chat 😄
ngl big hate for the dudes who dash at you
i would say so, there is a fair bit to do
Yeah, from what I've seen, you're not getting a 'bare-bones', pre-alpha kind of experience. Obviously there are bugs, but it's already a reasonably-polished game
Plus, the Supergiants are listening to feedback
https://i.imgur.com/MlI7nfC.jpg For those who wonder what ultrawide gameplay looks like
Nice touch
😍
These skull guys look vaguely concerned
Like they're your mum after you've just sworn for the first time
This is a Pagan server you guys
New Patch available! Notes in #hades-patch-notes
"Oh no, you are going to die again"
God darn meg is hard
what item is best to use so far
after i got it to work i am quite enjoying it! its very nice and cute! played only bastion before as transistor deals with some heavy themes and i think this game will be excellent
has anyone gotten passed the second stage
If you can’t no bigs.
Hey @vestal lodge while you’re here quick question: can I get a full body pic of the protag? None of the pictures on the internet show the knee down and I’m drawing full-size.
this game is so addictive lol
So I know this is very early to ask this, but do you think they will have any type of account transfer once it releases on consoles?
I’m gonna get it on PS4 regardless when it comes out, but if there is account transfer, that jumbles it better
I don't think so, never happened with any of the other games which sucks but yeah I won't be able to play it until it gets to PS4 as well so I feel your pain man. :P
I think you will be able to transfer it over to a different PC install, but transferring it to PS4 or any other consoles will probably be hard, and not likely
would be sick if it was ported to the switch
It will be ported to other platforms once the game is released (like with other Supergiant games), but Early Access is only on PC and Epic Games store
So if the Switch is still popular and a modern console at the time of the release it is highly likely that it is released there
i think it is being imported to switch eventually
a few articles say so but i guess its a 'wait and see incase they change their minds' deal
It is more of a "We will port it, but when we are done with the game" sort of deal @hasty torrent
yeh suppose so
@sacred nymph Not sure if we have one handy... I will ask around!
What exactly cause darkness thirst to proc?
; D ; thank you @vestal lodge I super appreciate it man
@wraith jasper Randomness !
anyone gone to stage 2 yet its so hard
yea
Oh really? Odd. Ive been getting it on every drop now, and at a 10% bonus
@wraith jasper Oh! Yeah it will trigger on each drop. I thought you meant which weapon it appear on!
Oh its a boon buff? Lol i didnt even notice
I thought it was some sort of passive i got that carried over, i got it three runs in a row without noticing 🤦
Hey! Patch let me get back into the Meg fight and I just beat it
that was a really fun bossfight
i've reached the meg fight twice now and died both times
Meg has so much hp, tank wife
Spear dancing is so much fun
Third time's the charm @hexed smelt
just use shield and reflect all damage meg has no chance
Yeah but then I don't get to use spear
@atomic kelp Glad to hear it worked!
i'm using the shield, but i keep trying to charge her because it looks cool when we cross each other
It's so much fun to charge
@hollow heron what is spear dancing?
dancing with stabbing
It's just spamming the melee and dashing around, getting backstabs and keeping enemies stunlocked and killing them cleanly. It also involves figuring out when you're safe to charge a spin close enough you can dash it in.
It's just playing spear basically
well i just played this game for, eh..... five hours straight
verdict so far: i'm bad at it, but i love it
i liked bow for a while but i got to meg and i was near useless
shield is my favourite so far
shield and spear are definite faves so far
i've got the keys to unlock the spear so maybe i should try that
Bow is low damage low mobility low utility
bow is alright but i'm just not feeling the sword in the slightest
Spear and shield imo are only so fun because they're overpowered
same, im bad but so far im really enjoying it
that first room when figuring out how to fight/move... took me a good 30/45 mins
let me have my crutches ;3;
i died on the first "real" room bc i didn't know what i was doing
I died on the second "real" room my first time
my first roguelike/lite? so far im not doing too badly.. loads of deaths but hey thats the point
Sword needs a slight buff, but both spear and shield need rather large nerfs, shield more than spear
Bow needs a massive buff
i've played binding of isaac and i'm pretty good at that, i've played rogue legacy and i'm awful at that one
Flash attacks shouldn't only be 10 damage more
And the special shouldn't deal so little damage
What makes the spear strong? I'm not getting a feel for it
Though I do agree the Shield is a cut above
I mean, Is that exclusive to the spear?
So, I haven't been able to touch Hades yet cuz I found out about it at work. How's the story holding up? Roguelike is a very, very shaky foundation to build a story atop of.
Hey if I am streaming the game would you guys wanna come and discuss it there? I don't mean to self promote, but I figure it would be a form of instant feedback if that makes sense
Receiver had a great story but the only way I ever got into it at all was from the wiki.
A bit different than just typing about it if you can have a visual part too
im not very far in the game so far, but story seems really good, it provides a nice rationalization as to why you can die so often haha
hi i had a big plot thing happen just before i stopped playing for the evening and i'm Hooked
In a way, the storytelling isnt too different from, say, Pyre
You have story, with gameplay inbetween
@burnt pond I can't chat but I can lurk if you stream
How does dying affect that?
@unborn wyvern sass you probably
how does dying affect what
Thats fine if you are interested in just watching, but I just wanna get some discussion going while I play, so we can talk about stuff like which boons are best and what not @celest wind
probably like in the trailer, lol
I love how a lot of the story is being told whether you win or lose
I'm having trouble with the shop in charon's well? I'm not able to click on any of the buttons
@burnt pond I can chat via text, I just don't have a working mic
Like, in Receiver or Dead Cells, if you die you have to start over with the story bits.
jessu that second floor boss
Actually are there any voice channels in this discy?
nah, nah, dying is incorporated into the story so that it doesn't reset
there are not
too difficult to moderate
don't volfredthink me it's a valid reason
@burnt pond other problem is that I don't have a twitch account, so discussion from me would be in this server. Probably #h1-builds-and-combat ?
sure sounds good
@hexed smelt Apologies for the unintended sass!
pwease, mistew charon... let me buy your wares...
I can't believe Hades is actually a lousy son simulator
nah nah it's fine x)
quick question, are all the food items sold by Charon tacos and mcdonald's fries, or is that just one of them
also it took me like three chats to realise why dusa is called that,,
ms. dusa. medusa. she's a gorgon.
🤦
🤦
😅
any idea when the game will come out from early acess?
1.5 years from now
just got to the first major boss (i think) and holy crap the amount of adds meg summons
the "thank you mate" is the most aussie thing ever
wher does it say 1.5?
Love the imediate action being taken for this game
<3 to all the hardworkers out there
the game is amazing
i've been playing for like.. 2 hours or so and this is amazing
just tell your roommate he can sleep but the dead never sleep
furthest i've gotten was getting the first fury to 1/2 health and then getting beaten into tar by the army she summoned
same
also.... zues's dialouge is a bit... off
beacause given the nature of our mother we find when we take a nap.... shouldn't he be calling us grandson?
not nephew
I believe the Olympian gods are under the impression that you came of Hades and Nyx.
and.... ummm what's the stance on spoilers in here?
Would a spoilers chat be a good idea?
Is there like story interwoven into the levels?
i havent gotten that far
YES
THAT's awesome
There prolly should be a spoilers chat then
there's also stuff you can infer if you know Greek myth that might be considered spoilers

Why won't Epic Games let me give Supergiant my MONEY?
Theres a dono button somewhere
yeah but the thing is it isn't letting me buy the damn game
Oh
wtf
Check Hades tech support
you might have to scroll up a lot
but I remeber seeing some talk on the subject
round 2 with meg... death
oof there's nothing that looks like my problem
wait I'll try changing my region on the store
is it just me or do those weird crystal enemies play the very first second of Forbidden Knowledge when they attack with their laser
it's been bugging me and I don't know if I'm the only one or not
When will hades be available for ps4
@rough ivy #hades-faq
O well igss ill play on my laptop then have the full game on ps4 when its complete
Supergiants must really hate our country if they added a special protection against people using Czech 😂
I haven't picked this up yet, but any chance we can get some desktop/phone wallpapers? I have a tradition of using Supergiant art for my wallpaper and I'd love to get something new
@low venture that
Uhhh so in this game is zagreus the kid of hades and persephone bc in myth hes zeus and persephones kid
I wonder how long it will take for Hades to be fully complete
@rough ivy it seems to be Hades and Nyx
Oh wow 😮
:3c
ok ill admit to being skeptical of tis game when i saw it but DAMN i am blown away

its so fun
@vestal lodge is there going to be a mandatory progress wipe at any point?
From #hades-faq
What are the chances I run into horrible bugs or lose progress during Early Access?
We’ve done our best to launch Hades in a high-quality, problem-free state. However, you may run into problems we didn’t find. We have always prioritized fixing issues affecting our customers' ability to play our games as quickly as possible once we’re able to track those problems down. As we add new features, from time to time we may also inadvertently introduce new bugs, and we appreciate your patience and understanding around this during Early Access.
As far as saved progress is concerned: We will do everything we can to ensure your existing save data continues to work with any content changes we make. But, there may be times when we do end up making big-enough changes that cause aspects of your progress to reset. We will do our best to limit these incidents and communicate openly around them.
Nice
I assume not all the character art is done right
Bc like artemis is in a simple shroud whereas other gods r decked out
my 5 minutes of google searching suggests all of hades' children, including zagreus, are with persephone.
Ooh
but there's suppoedly very fuzzy and ambiguous informaion about the genology of hades' offspring
one of the things i read was that the mythical figure of zagreus was an early form of dionysius
Right
which i think SGG have nodded at
I could totally see Zagreus the SGG character as dionysius in his middle age
I've said this before, but I think it would be super interesting if Hades' other two children, a couple of daughters, were represented as playable characters further on down the road.
Have you checked out this link: https://epicgames.helpshift.com/a/epic-games-store-and-launcher/
@calm delta
yep, there's nothing about the problem I have
when I try to pay it gives me an error message and like
Just beat my first run
Idk what to do, I tried to contact Epic Games but they weren't any help so
Maybe try again tomorrow, some people have had the download work after some time, without us knowing exactly why yet
@calm delta I'd recommend trying to switch the launcher out of/into Beta mode
meg is mega pretty aaaa
in the Launcher settings
so is achiless and athena
Okay, I'll try that then
and restarting your computer completely!
ive only started to dabble in some runs but loving the game guys, its gorgeous too and very smooth, looking forward to going hard this sunday, Keep it up!
Don't burn out everybody! There's a lot of Early Access to come haha
@radiant flame wait all 27 levels???
having a good time with hades so far
im just very bad at it
so far i really like the shield
Hi just joined the discord to help submit bug reports! I'm awful but I am loving Hades so much so far
theres 27 "rooms"
I want to know who came up with Hades explanation for the end of the early access 
That was a nice touch
@rough ivy oh you meant all 27 chambers, yeah I finished it
Stupid question but it's not in the faq - there is no NDA for Hades alpha, correct? Streaming / YouTube are encouraged?
it is in the FAQ, technically! there's no nda or anything, you can stream as you like
if you check #self-promotion i think a bunch of people have been streaming it already
Fun fact: Early Access was originally 36 Chambers, but the entire surviving Wu Tang clan made us change it.
hm, I've tried switching off beta and restarting the computer, but nothing
Have you tried switching Beta on again @calm delta
I don't see how that would help but I'll try
wutang is for the chilren
oh i just met poseidon and i love him
just as expected, nothing
Aww, what a shame.
Maybe try again tomorrow, to see if Epic changes something on their end @calm delta
I will
@vestal lodge any updates on how the early access will progress? Will we get each of the next sections one by one? or will they be in chunks?
We're not quite sure! I think it makes more sense that things come one by one. We're hoping to release new major updates every month or so.
That will allow to get feedback on new things, rebalance, etc each time we release a more substantial update.
Looking forward to it, I really enjoyed what has been released so far
I'm really glad to hear that!
I didn't think it could steal Transistors place in my heart
yeah its awesome
but it is getting there
Hopefully it just keeps getting better 
and still early access
the world started blinking all of a sudden and random artifacts were appearing on screen on stage swap and then it all crashed... and it was my second time i beat Meg

ughh I refuse to listen to the musci till I play the game
@vapid bolt Did you download today's patch ?
Hmmmm the "After 3 hours of play part" may have something to do with it
lul
yeah, that what the viewers suggested on stream 😄
💪✨ almost done with this sketch Awh yeah
too many deaths and effects 😄 the game can't handle it
yeah, i'm using the latest version
the Aphrodite debuffs are so OP tho 😛
I am so tempted to actually buy the game now ;-;
didn't see it yet D:
I don't wanna force you or anything, but...
whispers... "you should do it!"
the game is great, although you start to see how the "tiles" start to repeat after like 5-6 hours (in the first "realm"), but I was so glad that there's more
Perhaps a dumb question, but how do you get the items from the greek gods? I assume give them the ambrosia but I have no idea how to do that
Or is that not yet implemented
when you beat the room with a buff from the god
there will be an option to give the gift
press g in front of them
instead of just talking
just don't spam E forgetting to give a gift like I did like 10 times 😛
So, do we know how/ if the transfer between Epic and Steam will go, like will we get a key and transfer our save?
wish there was an option to give a gift on the perk selection screen too, just in case you mashed the wrong button
as I understood from FAQ - it's just the DRM-free version you get from Epic Store
that's about it
Okey doke
I tried to read up but couldn't find a straight answer......but is the current plan that if you play from early access on, you won't miss out on any story, and the story won't change in the early parts?
I go shocked by the news last night, and binged it for a while last night, having a blast
Ahhh ok thank you
but I love these stories so much, I want to play the final "Story", but it almost sounds like it's actually more like an episodic release as opposed to an early access?
is there a way to buy a copy of this for a friend? if there is its not obviously jumping out at me
Yeah. Also, the Dusa is such an adorable little character 😛
I didn't expect so much character in a roguelike in general, so pleased you actually don't mind dying at all, since you feel like you're making either story or battle progress either way
yeah after pyre I felt like supergiant had a good take/spin on a story-and-maybe-linear roguelike-ish game
really happy then went in that direction for this, it's been unique and fun so far
but really the music in the trailer is what sold me 😛
heh, yeah. the music in general is amazing. At moments I feel like I'm playing Doom, and it's very fitting 😃
im really liking this game, ive been raving about it to my friends that only played bastion but have played games like binding of isaac as i think it appeals to both
but as i queried earlier i wonder if theres a way to buy someone else a copy because i cant find a way 😦
@forest hollow AFAIK there isn't a way at this time, unless you login as your friend. We're asking Epic about that soon!
@vapid bolt Yeah dying is a litteraly a pleasure in this game ahah x)
@vestal lodge would ruin the surprise slightly but ill just be blunt and tell him ill create him an account 😉
ah wow the Meg fight has so many adds that spawn i got absolutely ruined 😂
same dude
Just get a bunch of Aphrodite buffs 👍
and you'll just shred Meg
Also +20% and +32% defence combined from Athena and Pom upgrade is crazy good
athena buffs work too
the deflect dodge is op
especially during meg's bullet hell phase
i got lucky and got through the whole fight without even having a single bullet-hell phase from some reason
was only circle aoe
you mean the whip circle attack?
ye, i was just spamming double-dodge
or maybe i get greedy and try to attack and then dodge
heh
The Aphrodite debuff that weakens enemies and makes them take more damage is insane when you get bonus reach and crit chance
i just mash the spacebar as fast as i can 😄
the spin special with spear and hammer buff +200% larger area is incredible
i run the shield usually
im either terrible at this game or the progression is too slow or both 🤔
so satisfying with the Poseidon buff
you learn by dying don't worry
you just push everyone around
I've been using spear exclusively but I keep hearing the shield is where it's at
im not worried about dying
Im worried about having to do the beginning part again 😄
feels a bit too slow
well, i got to the second "realm" after 16 "exits"
maybe i should switch weapon
1st Realm becomes v easy once you stack up some darkness
what is a good idea to spend darkness on?
i spend on dodge-strike buff
y'all, this is killing me
+60% is a ton of extra damage
I take healing
HAMMER TIME
and the "death heal" ye
hehehe
Saw the trailer... Now I'm here! When does it comes out?! 
xD
I'm sorry Sparrow
should've cleansed that chest faster 😛
i ran the shield and took all the deflect=damage buffs i could to shred through normal floors and found that it wasn't exactly optimal for Meg 😂
@hexed smelt check around the room for a gold pot!
i checked! alas :c
I hate getting the perfect build and watching it fall apart in a boss room
aww too bad then!
there are gold pots?!
...
It's video games, always smash the pots
i found a floor that took me to a very weird place, cost HP to do. totally worth
i got a lot of gold for it but i bet there's something rare there 👀
i must say Aphrodite looks good
Dusa is where it's at!
haven't made any meaningful progress in asphodel but i think meg is the current only boss anyways
does anyone have a good screenshot of aphrodite?
the ones I can take from the trailer r blurry
ive only got past 6 rooms once and that was when Meg slapped me so if there's a lot more after im happy 😂
this game seems very well polished for early access its a beaut
i wish it would say how many rooms you beat on death
smth like a recap in Enter the Gungeon
i've got the Scrying thing for stats, but that's not really it
Asphodel boss is all that's there now though, right?
never got past that 😛
oh really, huh
boss of tartarus is megaera, apparently asphodel does have a boss too
theres nothing after asphodel boss
good thing im bad enough never to see the end 👀
i still haven't gotten past meg
i got her down to about a third of her health just now before i died and that's the furthest i've ever gotten
I've got past meg once, had a really good spear run
i've just unlocked the spear im gonna miss my shield badly
the adds at Meg really overrun me fast i should get an aoe clear build on the go
or tempted to ignore them and let them be collateral damage 🤔
My strategy for the adds is to ignore them until she does explosions or bullets, and then clear up shooty adds first
but sometimes i just die in the third 🙄
Sometimes I'll clean up big adds in the middle
Spear makes it easy to clean up
Because you have sooo much range
@tepid wedge for me its learning the early enemies patterns without dashing everywhere until you get 4+ buffs
i try to ignore keys etc and prio upgrades to get further as i find the other stuff just falls in to place
what weapons do you use?
I've been focusing on getting keys/stones because it carries over
shield is very easy imo
you can hold a button to block in a direction which causes deflect(block) + damage and then you let go to dash forward with damage
Shield is the best by far
sure i can fight meg with 13hp no prob D':
shield and spear are both excellent, bow can be op with the right perks, sword....isn't that great compared to the others
i only have sword and bow now 😄
bow + 250% power shot seemed to work the best for me
it makes some enemies super easy
i just got spear but im legit just going back to shield 😂
the close shot upgrade on the bow is risky
The bow in general is risky
sniper shot lets you kite safely, auto charge is good for mid range
I wish I could play man, is the early access even Mac OSX Compatible?
just forced my friend to get the epic games launcher so i could go buy him a copy. a very sketchy way of gifting the game 👀
the game supports 4k right? had issues on launch last night, reset seemed to fix it
actually that reminds me... why is the game running through the Epic Games Launcher? Did Supergiant get bought by them or are they just acting as a middle man for the early access?
than steam? really? huh.
it seems a early access partnership to promote the game and the launcher which is ideal
epic announced their store lately with a few indie devs on board with some new games
Epic takes half the cut steam does
ooh ok so its like how DMC5's running with the Xbones
I'm just curious to hear supergiant plans to go to steam on launch
They have so much money from fortnite that they can afford to do whatever they want basically, so they aren't risking much with this move
so I wonder why epic for Early Access and everywhere for launch, but I'm fine either way! I love epic, but not fortnite.....and it's been a good many years since I've been able to support them lol
Okay I just spent my first hour on Hades
It's so good
I was a bit worried when I saw "rogue like", I thought to myself "We already covered that in a ton of games, it can't be that original, right ?"
...
WRONG
It's mindblowing how I'm having fun with a rogue like again, I thought that would never happen after the sheer amount of what I played
Thank you supergiant games, you did it again 👏 👏 👏
I remember when I was trying out paragon
and fornite save the world was being shown off, unable to play yet
I was a huge Infinity Blade fan
Fortnite is a good game. I don't play it, but I've played a few rounds and it was fun. I honestly believe it deserved to win goty for its impact on public culture
I thought "that's neat, I'll try that one day"....then the battle royale mode happened and just.....wow
I see unreal tournament on the launcher, I'll check that out
probably wouldn't have seen that they're still working on that if not for Hades
yeah but its like... you know whats BS? like a couple of hours ago I was having a kind of heated discussion about a game like DMC5 & people are giving it flak for it having microtransactions & such
but like stuff like this or Warframe gets a pass cause its FREE TO PLAY~!!
yeah I don't think I've EVER seen something as big as fortnite for a game in terms of widespread popularity
like when it comes to games like Fortnite I worry that its kinda... skewing how we see people gauge games & game sales
I have lots of respect for developers that don't go that route
but lol Artifact, pay to play, but then pay to win on top of that? .-.
Artifact is trying to be an irl card game
is $20 full price for Hades on launch?
Well like I mentioned Infinity Blade & DMC5 for a reason cause like those games are SOLID on their own, the DLC/Microtransaction stuff you don't need you can play the game fine without em
yes
@hollow heron yeah my friend bought it, he's a huge MTG addict, plays lots of IRL tournaments for a hobby/fun.....but when he heard they will never balance/patch anything, he ranted at me how much he hated the game lol
and he spent $60 total on it so far
Warframe gets a pass because you can get literally everything by playing or trading
Wait they aren't balancing things? I really hope they start a banlist pronto then
with difficulty on the consoles at least... TC is garbage on PS4... -_-;
Because they're trying to be an irl card game without the social aspect
And that won't work
if i get £0.50p-£1 per hour of enjoyment out of a game ill happily spend
you know what I think I'll move my convo to #off-topic-discussion this is for Hades
i spent probably 300 quid on hearthstone but i have 2k hours in so, to me, value was had
trying to find proof on artifact, bugging friend about it lol
Quick question - is there any way I can gift hades to a friend ?
Not atm!
Dang, I got the email last night and immediately thought about getting it as a secret santa gift haha
@wild plover i had to be very blunt and tell my friend to let me go and buy it him by making him an account
it ruins the surprise but no regrets
fair enough. I may do that lol
😄
Ended up playing 8 hours on stream, game is WAYYYYYYYYYYYY to addictive xD
just one more run x 20
oh rip. mouse just stopped working. Think it's time for an emergency run to the store
FINALLY
here take this 🐁
did the room where you get two strong enemies
🐭
with the break shields
Thanks Joanne haha
You need to upgrade to a moose
always died there, about 6 times now, wooo
@ebon delta i had mine being bomb wielders they absolutely ruined me
i did not like
the bomb wielders suck
i thought i was dead clever deflecting their bombs with the shield
you cant deflect if the bombs behind you, apparently 😂
Do people prefer playing with a mouse/keyboard or controller? Chicken for controller, moose for mouse/keyboard
I couldn't imagine this on controller 😮 so fast paced
aiming would be pretty hard
the athena dash perk has 360 degree deflection, which is crazy good
im using an xbox one pad at the mo
because i have a fully built sim rig in front of me so its either an xbox pad or a steering wheel. my keyboards kind of off to the side 😂
Did I just hear a steering wheel run?
👀
Time for me to figure out how to play mouse only
I tried m/k for a hot sec and hated moving with wasd
I also absolutely despised bastion, which has similar enough controls, on m/k but loved it on controller
I hold the wr for V6 using only a mouse as controls, mostly because no one else is dumb enough to do so
anyone had any luck beating megaera yet??
I've got her down once
Had a really good spear build
Lots of damage bonuses
And like 134 max hp
i dont know wether to try for an aoe build or just nuke her down while killing adds by collateral damage
nuking her down tends to work best
i haven't killed her yet, but i'm starting to work out how to dodge her
last time i got her half life but took forever i was running mainly deflection though
killing the adds is probably best done when she's doing her bullet hell attack
Is this the place to ask about the required specs? my laptop is about two years old
And it's not built for gaming so I'm worried I won't be able to run it
because you can dodge that easiest at range, and that's then the best time to pick off adds
And ignore them the rest of the time
You'll be fine, my 4 year old laptop runs it fine
have you used the laptop for any other games by supergiant @peak whale because tbh its generally fine
as in, if you've run any of em you'll run this no bother
@ebon delta best of luck
It's less intensive than pyre
true
you wont have much trouble really they're not very power hungry games
I started off with keyboard and mouse, but find controller to be WAY better for precision, personally. It was night and day for me. Made it twice as far once I switched.
@ebon delta she gives you so much hope for about 30 seconds too
that's what i'm loving so far about this, tbh
i've never gotten too badly frustrated by dying
anyone has tips to kill the 1st boss?
I'm sorry to ask, I am just very stupid about PC gaming
I feel like beating megaera is far more reliant on completely random buffs rather than being genuinely skilled at the game..... maybe that's just how rogue -likes work? I've only played one or two before this so I don't know much about good rogue-like design much less why most people like them. just picked this game up because it was a supergiant game and had a greek mythology theme.
@peak whale looking at the specs given by supergiant in the FAQ it doesnt look like you'd be able to run it very well
damn 😦
to copy from the faq "Hades requires a PC running at least Windows 7 SP1, with a Dual Core 3.0ghz, 4 GB RAM, 1GB VRAM with OpenGL 2.1+ support, and 10 GB available disk space."
I'll be sure to buy it the day it gets ported to console though
1st one is processor, then ram, then graphics, then hdd in that order above
I promise
im sure you'll enjoy it
it's a supergiant game that's a rougelike set in greek mythology
I was eager to get it on early access
the only one ive yet to sink my teeth in to too much is Pyre
bought it day 1 on ps4 but then that broke so i bought an xbox and just haven't rebought it yet 😂
darren korn always so on point
give him some love and praise supergiant team, since he isn't on the discord it looks like
well the whole team too >_>
but I'm always surprised at the music haha
with bastion and transistor i initially fell in love with the narrator and story teller but damn the music is on point
anyone talking about Ares' blade rift replacement for the red gems ? Way too good. Add a little knockback (say, a shield) and their health bars are just melting
ive not come across that yet
i had it offered once but i was Wary and went for something else instead
I was at first too, but it's GREAT. Especially if it rolls purple.
Hello, is there currently a road map, or any information on how long you intend staying in early access, as i'm a little skeptical on experience half the product now and then the other half down the road when it is finished.
@rare bolt no roadmap yet but the team is working on one
Personally I trust SGG because they've shown time and time again that they're dedicated to putting out quality stuff and not screwing over their fans
But it's also understandable to not want to put your money into something if you think you might not like the end product
Playing and I think to myself, 'Gee, they should really make these emotes the shades have into emotes on the discord server.'
Oh, they already did. 
Tbh it's not that i don't want to put money down, it's more not to spoil the complete experience
That's fair!! The way they've described it is as a serial release of story, maybe more like a tv show or comic
with rougelikes like this i tend to like to get in early so that i can master whats there and enjoy whats to come. im forever joining games very late in dev cycles, and im aware my views not widely supported but thats why im ok with early access
Again if that's not your thing and you'd rather get it all at once that's totally understandable!! I've thought about it too and it's a little weird thinking abt watching the game grow and change
...plus with the last 3 games being so good they earn my trust on it
I agree. Having bought Dead Cells about a month ago, I was on a big roguelike high too
It's mostly because i have joined other early access things and then forgotten about them down the road, Or when you return to them you kinda remmebers some of the story but forgets other parts of it, and if wipes happens you also have to do complete replays of story you already explored before ^^
Yeah, I definitely have that issue with like...monthly comics and stuff
"Oh was that what happened three issues ago???"
follows the tf2 comics
this feels more like when PoE had to do a kickstarter, its going to be a full release and be a full game, not just an e.a that goes nowhere, mainly because of the publisher support supergiant games get
but you'll die in this game the same amount of times if not more you'll die in dark souls, if you dont like to replay things hundreds of times it may not be a roguelike you're after lol
Liking the look of this, since I love the combat in Bastion and Transistor! Can anyone comment on what controls they're using? I think I'd like to use a gamepad for this kind of game, does that seem to be viable as it was in bastion and transistor?
xbox one pad has been flawless @sharp pendant
i started with controller, tried to use keyboard and mouse, and IMMEDIATELY switched back
ive heard good things with mouse and keyb but have not tried
i use an xbox 360 controller and it's 👌 👌 💯
Truth be told, I preferred Pyre over the two games before it, but the gameplay is very enjoyable
if you like bastion and have played games like binding of isaac/enter the gungeon types of roguelikes its a perfect marriage of the two genre imo
In true roguelike fashion it feels much faster
Cool. From what I saw there's a ranged attack that you always have, so I wasn't sure if that would make controller more difficult... Does it lock on?
its not ranged no
I'm pretty sure there's an aim assist
i am literally using a shield as my weapon but, with a controller you move your thumstick 360 degree range, and press
easy as owt
said things you get when you A: miss or B: kill the thing you hit
Or if you wait long enough
thanks for the input! I'll probably be picking it up, but not until after finals week 😛
ive not used the ranged attack much, but its dictated by where you're looking at the moment of press
It's a good ability
It's kind of like the ranged weapons in dead cells, so I was able to get used to it pretty quickly
Cast can be pretty good, I mostly avoided it because the gem often gets stuck over lava or pits
I'm not a fan of managing and picking up the gems.
i don't use it much unless i find an ares ball iwth an augment
because i love the bow
I tend to prefer the shield, so I tend to use it when I've thrown my shield and need to deal with it
and...well the bow does the same thing but.... eh
The bow seemed to be the most powerful option by a significant margin for me.
it's slow as hell
Dash-charged-attack is extremely good.
Or I combo them together if I'm fighting something like brimstone because it defeats them instantly
and numb skulls take it to peices REALLY fast
If you manage to get a decent damage boost + permanent dash-attack upgrade + crit on dash-attacks + triple shot... The bow will 1-shot armored bloodless.
i mean.... my optiman for the bow is knockback auto, instant charge upgrade, deflect special , weakness dash and bladerift cast
optimal*
It's about time Supergiant gave us a hunk to outdo Hedwyn
Yo will 
Howdy
Yeah, it's local atm
We'll certainly look into developing cloud saves!
They can be transferred between computers pretty easily
manually
Of course, I wasn't sure if it was that or it just did not work or something, will use drive for the time being, super excited for the game tbh
Does the progress save in the middle of runs or only between them? If I quit do I end up where I was when I left or back at the beginning?
is a monthly content update the current plan or is it play by ear?
not that i've even scratched the surface of the current content mind you
Is anyone trying to speedrun the game yet?
i can die faster than anyone
Well, that's a start
😂
Although ven-hades might have you beat, seeing as they died instantly upon hearing Skelly tell them to hit him
now thats impressive
i recently hit a bomb expecting its death to trigger the explode of its layed bombs. instead i left it on 1hp, dashed, and exploded an adjacent bomb anyway
@stiff trellis [citation needed]
i'm a damn hero
of course i neglect to mention i was caught in that blast. 200iq plays
I saw the feedback
i think he's awful but somehow i don't have it in my heart to suggest he be nuked.
@olive jungle i legit thought for a second you called for me to be nuked for my noob-death
oh my god no
😂
I think sgg would fire me if i said something like that :')
but also i really do suck at this game so i would be casting stones in a glass house
sounds about right yeah
got to meg the last 3 times on runs, but alas, always dead
Bomb twins took me a while to figure out. Died there probably 5 times, and now I can reliably beatthem getting hit 0-2 times tops.
Only beaten Meg 1/6 runs.
is your strat to hit thrice and dash twice times? cos thats what i do 😂
seems to work but i haven't been calm enough to see, i just panic
spear all the way
I smack them with my mighty dinner plate
I main shield. Throw shield, dash, repeat. Once their over shield is gone, balls to the wall on attack->throw-attack-throw until dead.
Did someone accidentally switch feedback and gameplay & tactics?
they might have but this is neither
I wasn't sure where to say it
i just reckon this is general hub chat about the game or whatever
then you have legit need to be seen feedback sub
and the "what is your build against X cos i use Y and i use it for reason Z" sub
I meant the places of them in the list if that wasn't clear
my b
@stiff trellis I think it used to be the other way, switched it back!
Is there a way to disable Mouse4 from trying to do some form of auto run? It's my push-to-talk key and using it at the same time as WASD confuses the player
Just curious: past Supergiant Games have been rated from E10+ to T. I understand that Hades isn't in it's final form yet, but is there an anticipated or target ESRB rating?
lmfao
harsh
Gaiwecoor, all of supergiant's games have hovered around the same general T rating so I don't really anticipate Hades going much beyond that? Imo it would be a weird departure
I don't have insider info or anything tho haha
Just guessing.
I feel like the shield is all around the best available weapon.
Hehehe - fair enough. Just thought what I've seen so far looked a smidge bloodier than the others, so it made me wonder if there would be a difference.
@cedar moss shield is bae
@tidal geyser errr... What do you mean by Autorun?
@vestal lodge I press Mouse 4 (to push to talk) and I think he tries to run towards the point under the cursor?
oh interesting
@forest hollow yeah from playing last night and much of today I can’t get nearly as far with any other weapon, but the shield has gotten me to the first fury.
@cedar moss i think potentially spear is the best but the shield has unlimited block on normal rooms
i'd abuse deflection+attack on every normal room but get melted on boss
@forest hollow yeah I just briefly hold the X button and charge through groups repeatedly
you can hold that and face any charging enemy
finally got to meg... oof.
it will deflect them
that hurt a little
@azure verge my heart hurts every time i get past 66%
I wish there were some way to record how long I've been playing for lol
It's not in the controls screen so I can't rebind it. If I try and run at the same time I end up doing this and get stuck and it's all no bueno. Only way out of it is dashing or reaching the point.
Have to upload to gfy, one sec.
@forest hollow I got her to like 20% and did a stupid.
@azure verge i get too distracted by the adds
I will say shield has proven to be much easier than bow/sword
first shield run and got to meg lol
Something about seeing the reveal last night made me think this was gonna have more of a souls-like feel to it but now that I’ve played it I realize that’s not what it is
https://gfycat.com/KaleidoscopicGlumAustrianpinscher That's the behavior I see when using Mouse4 + WASD
because on hundreds of hours of both it feels right
Maybe it’s just from all the dead cells I have been playing lately
@tidal geyser might be worth reposting in to bugs sub
Good to know that function is still in there. I got used to using it in Pyre and Transistor
I’m sad 😦
Yeah I think after recording the thing it's more than just a feedback cause that looks pretty broken heh
doesnt look an intended move for sure
Anyone else have a soft spot for Dusa?
Had an amazing build then crashed ,_,
Has anyone been able to get all the keepsakes?
as much as i want to know who or who not to give the items to im tempted to just keep spamming them to randoms 😄
Poseidon attack/push level2, 300% damage with shield, weak, weak= damage, and a 2 second dash with 4 attacks

It saved 
@forest hollow pssst....check your codex
autosave seems very very regular @surreal nest
@radiant flame the present symbol does that indicate what dialogue i skipped because i used it, or i need to use the item to progress past it?
It seems pretty good so far
if a heart is filled with a present, you have got their item
i see
i figured that when it says "talk to x, y times" if i give an item it fills that bar, is that so?
or it fills one of those bars, i meant
@radiant flame in that case im going to tell my friends im dying and talking to them for lore purposes
and not because i suck
😄
😆
I am just glad I finally made out of Tartarus
I really like the shield
Protag looks pretty EDGEY!111
That said, are there any penalties for dying in game?
Lost of gold
I'm actually kind of hoping they nerf the shield
It didn’t save this time 😦
and any boons and weapon upgrades
On the 2nd crash
I did one run with the shield and beat meg
The spear feels very weak
thanks. 👍
from around 5 hours or so of play the shield seems far ahead of the other weapons
I don't sheild nerf just make the other more viable without boons or upgrades
the spear is the only one I have beat the game with so far actually
The bow is awful against those skele without a good power
the spears damage is amazing for its range, its a very reactive weapon
Well heads
you need to know your mobs first
I was going to beat the game with my shield, but game crashed again ,_, and it didn’t save
Especially since their are boons which increase the range of the spear
getting curse and increased range got me my win against the second boss
@surreal nest D:
I was 2 levels from the boss
i loved getting spear spin radius
In the 2nd area
then hiding behind walls
Aww
Fun fact: you can skip the animation of Zagreus walking out of the pool of blood by dashing
you can also get a perfect landing if you dash when landing in tartarus
Finally got to Meg; first try with the shield + 500% deflect damage I got her down to like a fifth of her health before I finally got destroyed haha
You made it!
that's me!
I think rather than nerf the shield, buff the other weapons. They all should feel powerful and unique, like they’re something the son of hades would use.
And I think the cast ability needs to be a bit different
Like have a different cast for each weapon, instead of just the same fireball.
Because I ain’t used cast at all with anything other than the sword
Unless I get the chain lighting cast
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