That makes sence. First i thought hypnos needed the big nectar thing but i couldnt give it so i was a bit confused
#h1-discussion
tepid plover
you can gift ambrosia after you do their favor
brisk trail
Ive seen hypnos have some convos but nothing changed. Ill look it up
he has like 3 conversations with his brother shaming him for slacking off, then he gets his act together and Hades praises him for working diligently, and then the heart should unlock sometime after that
you don't need to do anything specific
and besides, Hypnos' max bond is worthless and does nothing
fickle aspen
finally got another fishing point in greece
tacit ember
bruh i just watched the last ep of this season of invisible and its kinda cheeks
ptsd the ep
opaque vine
Just got myself some diamonds. What u recommend i prioritize
Keys give pom power
Gemstones give +20 coins
Key gives +1 fated authority
Darkness gives life +5
Or get another diamond for awarding gemstones at bosses
tacit ember
key one is the best
keys give +1 roll
key one then necter one and you can do whatever you want at that point, rest are insignificant
opaque vine
key one then necter one and you can do whatever you want at that point, rest are...
Thanks. Grabbing key. Need to farm up nectar and keys are pretty simple way to get it anyways
lavish sorrel
key one then necter one and you can do whatever you want at that point, rest are...
(will add that there's a bit of nuance to this. if you don't have a pom in a boon you absolutely want to pom yet and you see nectar vs key, it can be better to take nectar)
stiff obsidian
bruh i just watched the last ep of this season of invisible and its kinda cheeks
Itsgood
The entire show is ass but by it's standards it's a good ep
tacit ember
i just watched this video https://youtu.be/7izh06YBxHY
on the topic of art ig lol
pretty cool
stiff obsidian
https://tenor.com/view/opinion-trash-duck-gif-19841106
and your arguements are nonexistent
tacit ember
and your arguements are nonexistent
i challange you to a dual with rapiers to decide who is correct
jagged hamlet
Cheekbones for days
jagged hamlet
It kills me how Melinöe is somehow even more angular than Zagreus
tacit ember
It kills me how Melinöe is somehow even more angular than Zagreus
how so
opaque vine
Would u guys recommend unlocking all of the aspects first or maxing out some favorites first ?
tacit ember
i thinkshe is less jagged
little lark
Would u guys recommend unlocking all of the aspects first or maxing out some fav...
I did the former
tacit ember
Would u guys recommend unlocking all of the aspects first or maxing out some fav...
some aspects benifit more from levels than others
if you like zeus shield for example
it works fine at lv 1 so you can feel free to try other stuff
if you like hestia you might want to invest some levels into that
opaque vine
it works fine at lv 1 so you can feel free to try other stuff
Huge help. Ive been liking zeus, demeter and chiron so far. Demeter prob favorite
jagged hamlet
i thinkshe is less jagged
Maybe it's her slighter build accentuating angularity
tacit ember
Huge help. Ive been liking zeus, demeter and chiron so far. Demeter prob favorit...
dem and chiron benifit from levels
and a tip is that if you press quit when you are in the yard or give up when you do enter a run your save is the moment you first enter the yard
opaque vine
dem and chiron benifit from levels
U reckon putting in some points in them before unlocking all base aspects ?
tacit ember
so if you have 15 blood you can feel free to dump all of it into a weapon
try a couple chambers
as long as you dont die (or enter another perminant save point like by going into the bedroom from the courtyard) you can give up and get refunded
tacit ember
U reckon putting in some points in them before unlocking all base aspects ?
dem is "the best" fist aspect so if you like fists and want to play them at higher difficulties you will want to max out dem eventually so its not a terrible idea
chiron benifits greatly from levels but its not concidered a very strong aspect for speed or heat, it would be more of a right now upgrade, you dont get the bonus investment like with dem
opaque vine
chiron benifits greatly from levels but its not concidered a very strong aspect ...
Would u share you favorite aspects? Im new to this game and plan on going to h2 as well. Its very addicting and fun. Had my first clear yesterday and have now cleared 3 times. Focusing right now on upgrading stuff.
tacit ember
zeus and beo shields are quite fun, both are shut your brain off, super safe and beo is a steamroller
my favorite piece of gameplay would be the ff hades fight, so that would be with sword, and i like it for the very oposite reason to the shields
opaque vine
zeus and beo shields are quite fun, both are shut your brain off, super safe and...
Like the sound of that. Have only unlocked the spear hidden aspect so far
opaque vine
gunayu is certainly something
Heard only bad things 😅
brisk trail
Would u share you favorite aspects? Im new to this game and plan on going to h2 ...
Zeus is the easiest to play, pretty much can't lose, pick thunder flourish and that's the build
Achilles is the best spear, but you mostly use it for cast builds because spear moveset is ass
Swords wise, Nemesis and Arthur are the best ones IMO, Nemesis is a crit machine, you spam special>dash strike>dash strike over and over (preferrably with double edge hammer), whereas Arthur has a completely new moveset similar to the axes in 2
Rails wise, Eris is one of the best aspects in the game, just max it out ASAP, it's very fun. though Hestia and Lucifer aspects are also fun
Fists are all good except for the hidden aspect Gilgamesh, I like Talos fists for the pull mechanic, but Demeter deals more damage
Bows are all good, hard to say which one's better, might as well spend 5 blood and max out the default one, which deals +15% crit which is great with Artemis/Aphro attack
tacit ember
guanyu is a better heat aspect than achilles
brisk trail
I wouldn't recommend guan yu to a newcomer, it halves your health at MAX upgrades (lv 1 is you only have 30% of your total hp)
in fact I don't even play it myself for this reason, far too much of a downside, all health upgrades will be halved too
jagged hamlet
Would u share you favorite aspects? Im new to this game and plan on going to h2 ...
I like ZagBow and PosSword because I'm extremely lazy!
tacit ember
newcommers should play monodash actually
i also like possidon because sword is bad
but cast builds need too many parts to be viable at high heat
lavish sorrel
Zeus is the easiest to play, pretty much can't lose, pick thunder flourish and t...
bows: hera for speed, rama for heat
tacit ember
chiron for newbie trap
stiff obsidian
chiron is that one bell curve meme
tacit ember
maybe dash attacking is the middle of the curve though
we have just not unlocked the secret chiron speical tech
opaque vine
Zeus is the easiest to play, pretty much can't lose, pick thunder flourish and t...
Wow great tips. Ive been using eris, my only clear without fists. I just dodge attack with fists but trying to play more calculated but i just love to hit and dash 😅
opaque vine
chiron for newbie trap
Thats me
Havent even used cast in the game hehe dont really get it
tacit ember
actually zeus is far from the most straitforward aspect to play
its just very consistent and easy to build
opaque vine
actually zeus is far from the most straitforward aspect to play
Played with it twice. I dont know maybe it gets better but i dont really see it.
brisk trail
Havent even used cast in the game hehe dont really get it
switch to the regenerating cast in the mirror then just spam it in boss fights even without a boon, it's +50% damage
tacit ember
Havent even used cast in the game hehe dont really get it
a good way to start is with the aspect of possidon for sword, when i recomend trying athenas cast and looking for the duo with zeus
tacit ember
switch to the regenerating cast in the mirror then just spam it in boss fights e...
do this if you arent explicetly running a cast build
also unless you cannot physicaly hit the boss with anything else if you arent running a cast build using a cast will likely result in a net loss in dps
stiff obsidian
depends
little lark
just like double dash
Finally my opinions have been validated
That's why I don't use it lmao
I wanted to prove to myself that I could dodge things properly
tacit ember
brisk trail
Is the shield a crutch?
it's only a crutch if you can't clear with another weapon
fickle aspen
i don’t exactly remember but is there a special interaction/achievement for clearing without any boons
raw herald
There’s a run clear message
brisk trail
final boss spoilers, but yes there's a unique scene:
||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDQVF_jWUTE||
rustic vale
i don’t exactly remember but is there a special interaction/achievement for clea...
Special dialogue but you only need 0 purgable boons
Chaos is still on the table
stiff obsidian
chat do we want heroic strike or a chance at purple rd
vast raven
rd every day, gambling is sick
stiff obsidian
tacit ember
what is rd even
silk peak
this game is so peak
slow nebula
Zeus is the easiest to play, pretty much can't lose, pick thunder flourish and t...
personally I like the spear moveset. I usually take it with poseidon on special and try to get Sea Storm and the two status boons for poseidon and zeus. Probably not a great choice but I like it.
fossil adder
i only need 3 wins more im in 5 streak
pure crystal
I wish I could play hades 1
bold basin
If i took suken treasure boon will it count toward the no boon diagloe from hades
latent moon
yeah
basically any boons you cannot sell qualify for boonless dialogue
like anything from chaos, nourished soul from demeter, sunken treasure
prob some more but i cant remember anything else atm
opaque vine
Doing a achilles run. Got divine dash going and picked up deadly strike 15% crit. Now i got divine strike from aphrodite that gives 77% attack damage. Worth switching ?
stiff obsidian
slow nebula
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1294254043434057792/1496844001276465253...
WHATTTTT
lavish sorrel
🤝
slow nebula
You do not want to receive one of those
Oh okay
slow nebula
You do not want to receive one of those
Elaborate though
rustic vale
Elaborate though
If you’re not a big influencer or in touch with supergiant I think odds are it’s the moderation team
slow nebula
If you’re not a big influencer or in touch with supergiant I think odds are it’s...
ohh okay
tacit ember
alexa play imagine dragons
jagged hamlet
Shiny Shelgon
compact star
Shiny Shelgon
yes
jagged hamlet
pulls out a Pokeball
compact star
*pulls out a Pokeball*
oh no!
the pokemon broke free!
stiff obsidian
i joined this server cuz i just got gifted hades by my friend last week 😄
mae in shambles
compact star
mae in shambles
lol
im not playing the game just yet tho
probably only after the semester ends
warm wren
does Lambent Plume/Pierced Butterfly have their buffs carry over if you unequip them between floors?
split moth
opaque vine
Omg i just rolled credits. Baby we did it
sterile trellis
hi everyone
I've almost completed all the achievements in the game, and the last thing left is to increase the rank of all souvenirs to the max level. Any tips on how to speed up this process?
brisk trail
I've almost completed all the achievements in the game, and the last thing left ...
take all paths in Styx, no other way
tacit ember
I've almost completed all the achievements in the game, and the last thing left ...
take the speedrun pact, em2 fo2, add any ammount of tight deadline so you dont get that survival room in tart
brisk trail
I think if you take all paths that's 72 chambers, almost enough to max out a single keepsake if you keep it equipped for the entire run
tacit ember
and yea take all the styx tunnels
sterile trellis
take all paths in Styx, no other way
i get it
tacit ember
the cheater method is to downlaod a maxed save form speedrun.com
sterile trellis
I'm going with a bow, should I keep this option or change it?
sterile trellis
the cheater method is to downlaod a maxed save form speedrun.com
its so boring) not for me)
tacit ember
grinding metaprogress is boring
stiff obsidian
im 2/3rds of the way to getting unseen one a 2nd time
sterile trellis
I calculated that I had 909 battles left to go, so here I go
warm wren
damn I must've been very slow at progressing the story lmao
I only had like 100 battles left to max all keepsakes by the time I got to epilogue
tacit ember
completionists doing the most unfun gameplay ever instead of just playing difficulty
brisk trail
I'm 60 runs in but my keepsakes are all at rank 2/3, because I keep rotating them, even if it's sometimes suboptimal
opaque vine
I calculated that I had 909 battles left to go, so here I go
Sorry didnt read. 909 battles to what exactly?
brisk trail
Sorry didnt read. 909 battles to what exactly?
maxing out all keepsakes, it's an achievement
sterile trellis
Sorry didnt read. 909 battles to what exactly?
for achievement
opaque vine
maxing out all keepsakes, it's an achievement
Damn thats a lot
Oh 909 encounters. Okey. That flies by tho. Each run is 50 so youll progress rather quick
sterile trellis
its 1/2 progress
brisk trail
Oh 909 encounters. Okey. That flies by tho. Each run is 50 so youll progress rat...
it's 72 chambers if you take all Styx paths
sterile trellis
25 souvenir x 75 battle
tacit ember
even if it was 100 encounters doing 9 brain dead runs is not fun
sterile trellis
Someone advised me to die in the lava after completing the first floor, but I think this is not the best way
tacit ember
if every run is 20 min that is still 3 hours
brisk trail
even if it was 100 encounters doing 9 brain dead runs is not fun
you can farm blood/darkness while you're at it
opaque vine
even if it was 100 encounters doing 9 brain dead runs is not fun
I would assime theres other things for him to do. Like maxing aspects, darkness upgrades, relationships and so on?
opaque vine
Someone advised me to die in the lava after completing the first floor, but I th...
Na u definetly wanna get to the styx rooms with 2 ads and such
sterile trellis
I would assime theres other things for him to do. Like maxing aspects, darkness ...
I've leveled up everything that's essentially possible and necessary for a comfortable game, completed 48/49 achievements, all that's left is to improve connections with some characters, but I think I can handle that as I work towards the last achievement.
tacit ember
what is your highest heat clear
opaque vine
I've leveled up everything that's essentially possible and necessary for a comfo...
I take it you started late with using different keepsakes then?
sterile trellis
what is your highest heat clear
I forgot, I'll check after the race
sterile trellis
I take it you started late with using different keepsakes then?
yeah i used mostly 3-4 builds to do all the other achievements and farm
opaque vine
yeah i used mostly 3-4 builds to do all the other achievements and farm
I understand. Its worth it tho. Keep at it one room at a time and youll be there in a day or two
sterile trellis
its bow, aphrodite, arthem, poseidon and ares
tacit ember
upwards of 4 hours of dedicated farming
brisk trail
bro played the same bow build from start till epilogue
opaque vine
bro played the same bow build from start till epilogue
Meanwhile i have no clear on bow 😂
sterile trellis
bro played the same bow build from start till epilogue
xd yup
opaque vine
I suck with it
tacit ember
Meanwhile i have no clear on bow 😂
wainting for someone to post the bow dashattack copypasta
sterile trellis
is it the best weapon in the game imo
sterile trellis
is it the best weapon in the game imo
more precisely the most comfort
with deddal ham with auto attack
opaque vine
not chiron though
What ur recommendation. Ive been using chiron.
tacit ember
try to learn hera or rama
warm wren
I dislike bow because I actually have to think instead of going "haha special + dash attack spam" with Nemesis
jagged hamlet
Zagbow is literally just Dash-Strike all day though 😮
opaque vine
try to learn hera or rama
Hera is cast. What does rama do
brisk trail
Rama is very slow, I wouldn't recommend if as a beginner bow, Hera and Zag bow are both good, Chiron is also good but doesn't really teach you to play bow
opaque vine
I dislike bow because I actually have to think instead of going "haha special + ...
Same but with fists
tacit ember
Hera is cast. What does rama do
special puts a mark on enemies, they inherit some of damage done
opaque vine
special puts a mark on enemies, they inherit some of damage done
Build with artemis i take it?
tacit ember
this does apply to the enemy itself if you hit it while it has a mark
tacit ember
Build with artemis i take it?
both arti and aphro are viable
aphro attack is much more consistnet
sterile trellis
I used only the aspect of Zagreus, with the buffs of Artemis and Aphrodite, I was looking for an automatic attack with the hammer of Deaddal, the essence is simply on the attack of Aphrodite, on the special attack of Artemis, to get their duo
opaque vine
both arti and aphro are viable
That could be a sweat try. Need to unlock it first
tacit ember
but you can take arti as a starting god since both her dash and attack are viable starting boons
jagged hamlet
Artichoke or Artemis
tacit ember
artificer
brisk trail
Hera is cast. What does rama do
Rama is like the Arthur sword, very strong attack and its wide but takes much longer to charge even if you're dash striking, whereas the special is like the rail attack except you don't need to reload, you can mark multiple enemies with the special and they take shared damage, this is exactly like Hera's boons in Hades 2
warm wren
I'm so brainrotted I read Arti and genuinely thought you were talking about me for a second
and then I went "oh yeah right Artemis"
jagged hamlet
Aspect of Artichoke
tacit ember
Rama is like the Arthur sword, very strong attack and its wide but takes much lo...
rama is not atall comperable to arthur
opaque vine
Rama is like the Arthur sword, very strong attack and its wide but takes much lo...
Sounds kind of buns but thats just me
warm wren
Rama is very strong but very punishing from my experiene
brisk trail
Sounds kind of buns but thats just me
it's good when you learn it, but it can take a while
jagged hamlet
Unlike Arthur, it actually does damage 
warm wren
I would suggest not using it to start I just used it to get the prophecy
start with Hera if the people who have actually used bow are saying it's good then switch to Rama if Hera ain't doing it for you
tacit ember
rama is like aruthur but slow attack speed is well implimented
and where the risk reward is good
opaque vine
start with Hera if the people who have actually used bow are saying it's good th...
Yeah hera might be the way to go and build for cast
brisk trail
rama is like aruthur but slow attack speed is well implimented
Arthur has a dodge offset, just dodge better nerd
tacit ember
talk when you clear ff
tacit ember
1 run if you play an easy aspect with a good pact
latent moon
max 5 if you do everything right
next gorge
Yo, Nyx does NOT give me the dialogue to unlock the aspect of arthur (blade aspect), i have more than 5 blood in the blade & spear aspects and she still does NOT give me the dialogue
i have died and reset like 50 times and she just wont give it
latent moon
hitting the "give up" button doesn't do anything, but if you're actually dying welp
unlucky lmao
next gorge
i am actually dying
next gorge
yes
latent moon
and you're sure you revealed guan yu
next gorge
If Guan Yu is the spear aspect, then yes, i have a clear with it
latent moon
welp idk then lmao
you're either missing a req and should double check or just bad rng, nothing else really
next gorge
yeah but what are the reqs? 5 blood in non zag aspect ✅ , guan yu unlocked ✅
latent moon
non zag aspect for sword specifically
next gorge
got both
latent moon
rng then
next gorge
horrible rng
latent moon
yeah
warm wren
my run was going well then Poseidon forced me to take his horrible dash boon
it's so bad for sword runs
genuinely comically bad
next gorge
then sell it
warm wren
never got the chance to
checked every pool of purging I could find
I have approval process so I just never got to sell it
and then I lost too much time in Elysium
okay I'm starting a second run; I've been offered 3 boons. They're all poseidon. I don't want poseidon boons. Stop giving me poseidon boons game.
brisk trail
okay I'm starting a second run; I've been offered 3 boons. They're all poseidon....
just take whichever god keepsake you need
brisk trail
Poseido is actually goated though, best dash in the game
warm wren
I can't tell if that's satire or not
brisk trail
you can literally make a meme Gilgamesh build where all you do is spam Poseidon dash
it's the highest damage dash boon
warm wren
yeah well I'm using Nemesis which is "spam dash-strike" and since my dash hits enemies out of my range
it's bad
brisk trail
didn't you max out heat on sword already
timid raptor
Is rush delivery really that good
lavish sorrel
for 2 reasons:
- speed is multiplicative. this makes rush delivery multiplicative scaling, if you squint a bit (still just an additive bonus, but an additive bonus that can increase exponentially with additional sources of permanent speed)
- it's a global bonus, meaning it affects all of your damage-output
timid raptor
for 2 reasons:
- speed is multiplicative. this makes rush delivery multiplicativ...
Ty
tacit ember
okay I'm starting a second run; I've been offered 3 boons. They're all poseidon....
maybe its a sign to not play sword
latent moon
my run was going well then Poseidon forced me to take his horrible dash boon
it's still the best dash for sword lmao
top speedruns for nemesis starts tidal dash
warm wren
it's the worst dash for me then ig
latent moon
tdash being the best dash in the game is not satire at all btw lmao
the only contender is divine dash from athena bc of safety
so basically speed vs heat, so not really a valid competition btwn the two
tacit ember
arti dash cuz it beat 64 heat
brisk trail
they're gonna think we're all trolling lmao
tacit ember
latent moon
i mean tbh ddash is kinda a new player trap
tacit ember
like chiron
latent moon
like yeah it is really good but they start to depend on it so much their build kinda just sucks
they rely on it too much and either start with it or force it in aspho when athena might not be ideal
latent moon
like chiron
eh i think chiron is well designed for the bow, i don't think it's a trap it's just beginner friendly
latent moon
me when starting with athena for the dash
imo viable for really high heats on the chunky aspects but like
you wouldn't start ddash on like fists
or rail
tacit ember
for what aspects would that be viable for
the only build that i can think of where you would take a tart athena is athena spin and ig you can pick the dash if you dont get the attack first boon
lavish sorrel
i mean tbh ddash is kinda a new player trap
idk man as someo-
latent moon
for what aspects would that be viable for
i mean it wouldn't be for the like super high heats, but like it would be doable on like hestia or rama
maybe even nem
tacit ember
ME nem?
lavish sorrel
any nem tbhimo
tacit ember
i mgiht give it a shot
latent moon
the point isn't for ME, it's bc it's divine dash on a melee aspect lmao
safety bc sword just dies on high heat
and then pray you get a good attack and don't have to use shackle through the whole run so you can take acorn into dad fight lmao
opaque vine
Need some guidance. Running a achiles spear.
Got artemis attack and poseidon dash.
Got option to switch to hunters dash that gives 70% damage
Im doing dash attacks and specials, thats the strat. Is it better to switch to hunters dash or keep the poseidon dash ?
lavish sorrel
keep splash
achilles suffers a lot in elysium and styx, and that's where poseidon's dash and its tier 2 boons come into play.
brisk trail
Need some guidance. Running a achiles spear.
Got artemis attack and poseidon da...
the best Achilles builds are hunting blades, crystal clarity and ice wine + scintillating feast
don't bother stabbing things with it, just pretend that it's a wizard staff
opaque vine
the best Achilles builds are hunting blades, crystal clarity and ice wine + scin...
That wasnt my question but okey
brisk trail
with other weapons like Nemesis and Eris you can refresh the damage buff, but with Achilles you can't
you have to count exactly 4 hits, and only then the buff can be applied again
which makes it good for casts and bad for anything else
in my opinion
latent moon
you still dash strike on achilles
like after you throw the boosted casts what else are you gonna do lmao
and also the first half of the game you're not likely to have your cast build online yet so you're relying on dash strikes for quite a bit
tdash and dash strikes more or less carries front half of the run, your cast carries the back half
tdash helps a lot in the back half when your casts are hitting other enemies too
and also like deleting styx with t2 boons
lavish sorrel
tdash and dash strikes more or less carries front half of the run, your cast car...
I find it hilarious how the two explanations I and you gave were diametrically opposed until before the next message cleared things up lmfao
brisk trail
and also the first half of the game you're not likely to have your cast build on...
+150% dmg casts are still strong without duos, you can nuke tart/aspho enemies easily
but yeah if you land on flurry jab and some nice attack boon you can stab a bit, doesn't hurt
latent moon
I find it hilarious how the two explanations I and you gave were diametrically o...
lmfao yeah
i still feel like casts are carrying your damage but you're still gonna be attacking while waiting for your cast
latent moon
+150% dmg casts are still strong without duos, you can nuke tart/aspho enemies e...
tdash and dash strikes more or less clears tart by itself unironically
you'll have some issues with tankier enemies but other than that it's like not much else you need
lowkey aspho too but by then you should at least have a decent cast, even without a duo it'll be decent enough
unless it's slicing shot then that's only useful against hydra without the duo lmao
phalanx shot and trippy shot are decent enough on their own without duos
brisk trail
trippy shot is the easiest Achilles build IMO, it's online instantly and very strong even without the duos, but it still gets whole TWO duos because why not right, and if you land them both it will insta-nuke every enemy in the game
latent moon
well btwn scintillating feast and ice wine, ice wine is a whole lot better most of the time lmao
scintillating realistically isn't doing too much unless you get jolted, which i guess would happen since you have a zeus core
brisk trail
this is also the best build to use privileged status with
because you always have 2 curses
latent moon
no def not lmao
still not guaranteed jolted, it's just likely
pstatus is just unreliable without guaranteed curses
best build for pstatus is passion beo
hera is 2nd by extension, but that still uses fam favs lmao
every god in this game has a curse, but 4 of them are secondary boons, so unless your 2 core gods are some combo of dio, aphro, dem, or ares, you shouldn't run pstatus
brisk trail
yes, privileged status is not very good in Hades 1, I think Artemis doesn't even have a curse at all?
latent moon
and the only valid combos are dio + aphro and aphro + dem, you never see anything else really
marked
latent moon
still a status effect
you get pstatus proc from
the demeter decay boon (forgot the name) doesn't count as a curse btw lmao
so like pstatus is kinda just bad unless you're specifically running either of 2 specific combos
brisk trail
I know man, coming from 2 where it's very very strong it's really disappointing
Zeus, Poseidon, Athena don't get curses on their cores unless you take a specific secondary boon
latent moon
i think like nearly every god starts with a status so it's much much more viable lmao
if in h2 half the gods didn't have a status to start with, i'd reckon the pstatus equivalent would be a lot less used
and be build specific rather than on every build
pstatus in h1 is very build specific bc the half with curses don't synergise too well most of the time lmao
brisk trail
well the second game was built around it, and I think it's a great mechanic, it reminds me of confusion from the Nioh games which worked basically the same, apply two statuses and the enemy takes increased damage
latent moon
not surprised if they actually did build around the statuses in h2 bc they also buffed pstatus damage lmfao
it is a good mechanic objectively speaking, it just isn't consistent in h1 lmfao
brisk trail
yeah family favorite is fool proof, you will get +25% no questions asked
(you can get +35% or even 40% if you arrive in Styx with only 3 gods in pool though, happened to me a couple times)
nocturne gull
I finally beat Hades one
wise token
every god in this game has a curse, but 4 of them are secondary boons, so unless...
doesnt the cast count towards pstatus?
vast raven
cast doesnt apply a curse so no
also iirc specifies for olympian effect which cast is not (unless through some other effect granted to your cast by a god)
latent moon
Aphro cast inflicts weak I thought
vast raven
it does
latent moon
But otherwise some of the other casts need a t2 boon for a status
Dem, Athena, pos, technically Artemis
Zeus
Ares and dio cant get status on cast except with duos
low nebula
It always felt like festive fog should do hangover in the cloud.
It would help meld the two parts of Dio boons- and it's obvious enough that I'm sure the devs thought about it, so I wonder why they didn't do that.
mint coral
The fun part of hangover is pomming its dmg way up with its linear poms
If cast had hangover you have the cast itself getting its poms and prob hangover falling behind
Also due to how hangover stacks it would have ruined the current legendary for hangover builds most probably
rustic vale
It would help meld the two parts of Dio boons- and it's obvious enough that I'm ...
“Obvious enough” like what
I don’t think so I feel like I wouldn’t really be up for adding a dot to a massive burst cast like
It’d be weird because you then have to decide if it’s going to scale damage with just the burst side or just the pom side or both and break the game by being the only boon that scales 2 factors with poms and rarity
low nebula
Obvious enough in the sense that it really looks and feels like it should. Dio is the DoT character, a big cloud of noxious stuff intrinsically reads as something that would be part of that DoT/status. It's playing into the fantasy mostly.
I don't know the game well enough to actually understand the balance implications of that though, hence why I wondered why the devs chose not to go that direction even though it was very on theme
rustic vale
I feel like more obvious than inflicting hangover is being a longer lasting persistent area
like it keeps ticking
while they’re in it
low nebula
Yeah that too
rustic vale
luci bombs but it doesn’t explode
low nebula
That would also be on theme
And probably better balance wise from what you're telling me
I'm interested to see if they've done anything with it in h2 when I try that out soon
mint coral
like it keeps ticking
Got thrown into the zeus duo ig
They should have made the dmg reduction when standing on fog be dodge chance instead
Cuz haha drunk
nocturne gull
What's your opinion on hades
lavish sorrel
one of the greatest games of all time (unless you push it too far, it then becomes bad). 1000% worth its full price though imo. there's at least 300 hours of gameplay in here, and more if you want to go beyond what's expected of the player.
tepid plover
Top 10 roguelike imo
One of the most, if not the most polished roguelike game out there. Great story Great music, great art, great combat, I think it suffers a bit in the replayability department, but it more than makes up for it every other aspect
stiff obsidian
What's your opinion on hades
He's mean but he has a good heart
tepid plover
Like half the boons are garbage i think
Personally im under the group that believes that its okay and necessary to have bad boon/items in roguelikes. So for me thats okay
stiff obsidian
They can be unoptimal but not bad
Like artificially inflating the boon pool to make the actually good boons rare and be a 'lucky find' is dum
tepid plover
As long as they have niche cases where they can occasionally pop off, I think its fine
stiff obsidian
Look at high voltage
Storm lightning
Just exist for filling slots
'uc fodder'
tepid plover
I put replayability over optimal balance, so for me its fine
stiff obsidian
They're not mutually exclusive
tepid plover
As an Isaac fan, I think bad items are okay
Sometimes luck says screw you, and you have to deal with it
Not just bad, but detrimental even
Its part of the random
Maybe it had to deal with the fact my first roguelike was immortal redneck and I love that game
Im a big fan of adapting, making the best out of a bad situation, to me thats more fun than just crafting a good build
stiff obsidian
I'm just saying alot of the boons suck
tepid plover
Oh I agree
brisk trail
Like half the boons are garbage i think
the second game is definitely much better balanced
in Hades 1 it feels like you either have a build or you don't
whereas in 2 even if you don't know optimal combinations and synergies, you can still cook
lavish sorrel
I mean, there's still a bit of that in h1. in high heat, it can be harder to get what you want, so there is some improv necessary. if winstreaking high heat or fresh file, the most consistent play is almost always best, which can sometimes lead to fun builds due to not being allowed to reset.
more that if you're pushing the game to its very limit for speed or heat, one or two build-paths emerge optimal or at least most consistent for what you're doing
tepid plover
Not you again
stiff obsidian
Highkey ping a mod
tepid plover
Pretty sure someone has before
brisk trail
<@&456908176877551658> this child has been begging for someone to gift him Hades for at least a week now
tepid plover
Its gotta be considered spam at this point
void vigil
stiff obsidian
gritty topaz
Chat does this game get better gameplaywise ive bought it twice and only played like a hour and a half in 10min sequences
I rly like the story and characters and roguelikes in general but not too fanned of the base gameplay
tepid plover
I rly like the story and characters and roguelikes in general but not too fanned...
Idk how to answer that question. What about the gameplay dont you like? Cause the gameplay remains the same
If youre only interested in the story cna always turn on god mode and just breeze thru runs
gritty topaz
I rly dk the combat just feels icky imo idk or the floors imma try it for a lil rq and let yk
Atleast after dying i dont feel like playing at all (especially right before or after the first boss)
tepid plover
Im afraid the game simply didnt click with you. I guess I can only suggest you try with god mode
gritty topaz
Imma try for a couple more hours and come back
Maybe its too early since i havent gotten really any buffs for the runs
tepid plover
Could be
stiff obsidian
I rly like the story and characters and roguelikes in general but not too fanned...
It gets better ofc
Especially when u start understanding how to build
Understanding dmg rotations for each wep will also help a lot
Make it much more intuitive and smooth
I don't even think ud have unlocked all weapons after 1 hour
All of them play different so u should try them all out
I don't like how half the weapons play either actually
Fist and sword specifically
gritty topaz
I just unlocked spear and have 3 weapons found sword to be the most fun but bow to be the best
Rly pissed just got swarmed by a lot of things and died but atleast i got 10 gemstones to upgrade something
Shield seems bad too
tepid plover
Oh ok so youre not enjoying it cause youre struggling now that makes sense.
Its completely fine. You start the game really weak, youre meant to die a lot
hexed smelt
I rly dk the combat just feels icky imo idk or the floors imma try it for a lil...
if you’re having trouble, you can enable “god mode” in the settings! despite the name, it just makes you more resistant to damage rather than outright invulnerable - and it scales up a little bit more each time you die
but yes a core part of the gameplay loop is dying and trying again
void vigil
yepp it rlly can be overwhelming at first, but once you get your bearings it certainly feels more manageable and even "sparse" enough
but the gameplay loop and the feel of it stays the same of course, its your 🫵 improvement that makes it more fun. which does sometime give this feeling that youre throwing yourself at a wall repeatedly but hopefully is rewarding at the end
tepid plover
Thats the roguelike formula, die, learn, do it again
stiff obsidian
I wouldn't recommend godmode because it would be even harder when you eventually turn it off
I think the isometric perspective takes a bit to get used to
tacit ember
Chat does this game get better gameplaywise ive bought it twice and only played ...
a key concent in the combat is canceling backswing animations
learning to do that will make the gameplay alot more fluid
the best example is the sword special, as soon as the hitbox is thrown out dash to cancel the backswing
this way you get the damage and aoe without most of the drawback
you can turn that dash into a dash attack, hence the basic sword combo being special, dash attack, dash attack
tacit ember
yepp it rlly can be overwhelming at first, but once you get your bearings it cer...
adding on to this, hades is a rogue lite and imo quite far on that end of the spectrum of rogue like - rogue lite, meta progression is very strong. Personally im not really a fan of this but this means you arent entirely relying on developing game skill and knowledge.
good early unlocks i would suggest are boiling blood, tougher skin, deep pockets
i would recomend getting 1 or 2 death defiances and skipping the third level unless you have alot of spare darkness, its pretty expensive and imo you get more benifit form other upgrades
gritty topaz
can u do the plat on god mode is that why its such a high %?
brisk trail
adding on to this, hades is a rogue lite and imo quite far on that end of the sp...
double dash and 2 defiances are the most crucial, then you clear once, get 1k darkness for it and buy the 3rd DD, then the rest is free assuming sub 16 heat
tacit ember
i forgot about doubledash
tepid plover
that said, meta progression alone wont be enough, youre still relying on game skill and knowledge
tacit ember
yea that one is first unlock lol
tacit ember
can u do the plat on god mode is that why its such a high %?
the plat?
gritty topaz
Platinum trophy
tacit ember
im not sure what you are refering to
tepid plover
platinum, all achievements
tepid plover
100% the game by getting all achievements
and yeah god mod doesnt stop that
platinum trophy is a playstation thing, but yeah is just getting all achievement
tacit ember
that said, meta progression alone wont be enough, youre still relying on game sk...
sure, but meta progression is sooooooooooooooooooo strong in hades
tacit ember
an ff clear is liek 40 smth heat but as soon as you get double dash and like boiling blood the game becomes trivial
tepid plover
i remember meeting a person where they couldnt win even on god mode
and it happens
you still need game knowledge and enough skill
tacit ember
double dash and 2 defiances are the most crucial, then you clear once, get 1k da...
i dont remember how much the second dd costs but i would rather have a 1 dd and some levels of boiling blood than have 2 dd and no boiling
tepid plover
2 dds goes a long way
tacit ember
rather make the game easier with more damage than more hp
brisk trail
i dont remember how much the second dd costs but i would rather have a 1 dd and ...
boiling is cheap, you'll just grab it anyway
tacit ember
if you are a new player you are most likely not making it to ely with 1 dd lol
tepid plover
if youre a new player you wont get much value out of boiling blood either
tacit ember
fair
tepid plover
a second dd goes a longer way that early
brisk trail
I got my first clear on run 7, I had 2.5k darkness spent, so 2 DD's plus most other stuff in the first half of the mirror
tacit ember
i think for my first playthrough it was also pretty high
tepid plover
hold on let me find mine
tacit ember
i assume they played h2 before h1
stiff obsidian
o makes sense
brisk trail
yeah I played 1 after 2, found 1 way easier
tepid plover
it is
tacit ember
skull
you develop gamesense form h2 that is applicable to h1
- in my experience h2 is much easier
tepid plover
my first win, idk which run number it was, but my mirror looks pretty invested in
#h1-victory-boasting message
tacit ember
but it did take me 20 smth runs to clear h2 because of the eris thing
also played it during early access, idk when they implimented the 50% hp skip
tepid plover
only attack and dash boon lmao
stiff obsidian
i justed bricked in h2 despite being good ath1
like at some point i started using max godmode
and still kept dying
after doing 45 fear
without it
so i just uninstalled
brisk trail
here's my run 7 clear, took a while due to low damage on base shield #h1-victory-boasting message
tepid plover
nice
brisk trail
then I lost on run 8 with base spear, then unlocked the aspects after that and never lost again because the aspects are broken strong
tepid plover
still impressive
stiff obsidian
my 2nd clear which was a streak off 1st clear
i disowned my first clear cuz it was just turtling with shield
tepid plover
a win is a win
tepid plover
last one is rerolls so whaetevr
stiff obsidian
i think its like 50% of total mirror cost tho lol
tacit ember
seems i took me 50 runs to clear for the first time
i thought it was more
might have been chaos shield
prolly cuz that one youtuber was saying 👆 youshould use chaos shield to shotgun bosses
tacit ember
someone should make an online multiplayer mod for hades
i imagine its not thathard to synk seeds and graft the players positions to each others games but ig other entities would be harder
i think notia modders might have solved this issue for that game though
stiff obsidian
It's in development last i checked
grim parcel
so i just unlocked the last keepsake (persephone's) but the achievement for unlocking all keepsakes didn't pop (i'm on xbox)
brisk trail
so i just unlocked the last keepsake (persephone's) but the achievement for unlo...
it's not the last keepsake, that's why
maybe there's someone else you haven't gifted hmm
keen fable
so i just unlocked the last keepsake (persephone's) but the achievement for unlo...
Just keep playing and giving nectar to characters
grim parcel
my keepaakes collection is all checked off though
brisk trail
yeah, the last one does not have an empty slot, it's cheeky like that
supposed to be a surprise
grim parcel
is it related to the epilogue (which there is also an achievement for completing)?
brisk trail
no, it should be available sometime after the regular ending, just keep gifting characters
grim parcel
only one i haven't gifted is hades but he doesn't give you anything in return to my knowledge
brisk trail
or does he?
grim parcel
dun dun dunnnnnn
tepid plover
drumrolls
fossil adder
I finally get the true ending!!!!
stiff obsidian
do i push rama or achilles
stiff obsidian
tell
bleak crest
Any1 got any tips on knowing what boons to go for
Like idk if I’m choosing the right ones n stuff
brisk trail
do i push rama or achilles
achilles skill floor is on the ground, rama takes a while to master
brisk trail
Any1 got any tips on knowing what boons to go for
stiff obsidian
achilles skill floor is on the ground, rama takes a while to master
im pushing both i meant right now
cuz i couldnt decide
went with rama
brisk trail
went with rama
good luck
stiff obsidian
fr
keen fable
only one i haven't gifted is hades but he doesn't give you anything in return to...
Its related to the epilogue just keep playing
tepid plover
no is not
opaque vine
Guys got a bit confused. I put extreme measures and cleared elysium but didnt get the trophy/achievement for it. Am i missing something?
iron bramble
Guys got a bit confused. I put extreme measures and cleared elysium but didnt ge...
Did you have extreme measures at level 3?
opaque vine
Did you have extreme measures at level 3?
No. Didnt know it counted like that. Ill have to redo it
tepid plover
extreme measures 1 only affects first area, 2 up to second, 3 third
and you can guess the rest
opaque vine
Did you have extreme measures at level 3?
Level 4 not required?
iron bramble
Level 4 not required?
Nope, level 4 is completely optional.
tepid plover
you only need elysium, elisium is extreme measures 3
brisk trail
Elysium EM3 is such a fun fight
tepid plover
imo easier than regular
tacit ember
idk where that take come sfrom
tepid plover
both hydra and champions become easier in their em version
tacit ember
ig theseus isnt snipping you
tepid plover
thats literally it
tacit ember
but the bull has more hp and is a good bit tougher
tepid plover
bull gets easier without the idiot being annoying
brisk trail
I also find it easier, no more annoying spears
tepid plover
exactly
brisk trail
just focus the bull then the rest is free
tepid plover
yup
tacit ember
maybe yall need to play some higher heat
tepid plover
i do 40, i think is fun enouygh
tacit ember
does h2 not have ap
tepid plover
no
tacit ember
lol
tepid plover
at least not in the regular modifier
tacit ember
thats so 67
latent moon
achilles skill floor is on the ground, rama takes a while to master
wdym achilles skill floor is on the ground, that stick is hard as hell to play at high heat
that thing does like no damage past aspho
and gl getting a cast build together on ap2
tacit ember
im just now finding out about this
acutally i might have known about this but forgoten
brisk trail
and gl getting a cast build together on ap2
yeah I don't play with that, so when the dark thirst lands on the spear it's an easy Achilles run for me
brisk trail
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1329437187091075162/1497346451569643571...
tresspassing!
but anyway took me a bit to figure out you can dash through walls and stuff
this is actually how you're supposed to juke the bull
dash through a column and he slams his head on it
tacit ember
you can stand next to the arena wall for the bull since he has a wide turning angle
tacit ember
bruh furies are such a road block for me with nem
white lily
Yall im so stupid I shouldnt’ve spent all my titan blood on Exagryph’s Zagreus aspect 😭
Me when I see funny bird gun and all my neurons fire so hard I forget it’s a rare currency
hybrid hedge
i need to be told if im insane or not
but the like song that plays when you are in a run, tartarus i think?
sounds like the first guitar part of paranoid android by radio head
tacit ember
i am radio rebel
ebon shore
does anyone know how to get demeter bond? i finished the epilogue and her codex entry is complete, but it still wont unlock after around 10 runs
tacit ember
i rolled another chaos legendary that i again died to before clearing the condition lol
brisk trail
does anyone know how to get demeter bond? i finished the epilogue and her codex ...
just be a good grandson and it will unlock eventually
but honestly it's pointless, you get nothing for it, no achievement, no items or prophecies
bronze drift
Yo I just started started pyre is Zagreus’s death animation a reference to pyre?
opaque vine
Question. Lets say ive only gotten the rewards to heat 8. If i do heat 16 will i miss out on all the heats between? Should i go one at a time?
tacit ember
if you do 16 you will get the reward for 9h
and if you do it again after getting hte 9h bounty you will get the one for 10
and so on
its more fun to jump in larger incriments of heat
opaque vine
its more fun to jump in larger incriments of heat
Okey nice. I really wanna get a 16 heat win hehe
opaque vine
Bro what the hell is this 😂 i just found out there an entire different skilltree, the yellow one in the mirtor. Omg i just thought i was close to maxing out
brisk trail
it's clearly green bro are you color blind
also yeah the last 4 talents should be green because they're way better
also stygian soul instead of infernal
the rest are fine on the default side
opaque vine
it's clearly green bro are you color blind
I guess i am because its very yellow to me . Man that sucks ive been investing so much darkness in the last purple slot.
brisk trail
I guess i am because its very yellow to me . Man that sucks ive been investing s...
re-rolling rooms is way worse than being able to re-roll the actual boons you're offered
if you have the boon re-rolls finding duos and legendaries is MUCH easier
stiff obsidian
the purple ones are generally better
i think
idk which is which i have to check
brisk trail
family favorite is guaranteed +25% global damage per run
dark foresight cuts down on the meta currency rooms so you get more boons per run
Gods' Legacy boosts your duo and legendary chances
and Fated Persuasion gives boon re-rolls
opaque vine
re-rolling rooms is way worse than being able to re-roll the actual boons you're...
1000% didnt know it existed
brisk trail
and you can also grab Stygian Soul so that you don't have to pick up your bloodstones
opaque vine
Thanks. What about the rest ? Their npt worth investing in?
seems i gotta do a lot of darkness runs
brisk trail
Thanks. What about the rest ? Their npt worth investing in?
the rest.... stubborn defiance is great on high fear when you can't heal at all, so you just kys to restore hp, it's 1 defiance per each chamber
fiery presense is good for one shotting trash enemies but you lose out on boss damage
oh and high confidence is free damage if you rarely get hit, +25% global
rustic vale
I guess i am because its very yellow to me . Man that sucks ive been investing s...
You can refund all your darkness for 1 key
opaque vine
You can refund all your darkness for 1 key
Goooat
rustic vale
At the very bottom of the mirror there’s a little icon
fluid gazelle
Just a question, I havent installed the latest patch yet, I want to try it but I have some mods installed. Does the update break most mods like in most games?
rustic vale
the purple ones are generally better
Feasibly
stiff obsidian
what update
rustic vale
- red/green
- red
- red/green
- red
- red
- red/green
- red
- red/green
- red/green (green way more often)
- green
- red
- green
That’s a lot more red
than green
fluid gazelle
what update
I was refering to this: https://old.reddit.com/r/HadesTheGame/comments/1slfgtg/all_patch_notesbug_fixes_for_the_lazy/
rustic vale
Hades hasn’t been updated in like 5 years
opaque vine
dark foresight cuts down on the meta currency rooms so you get more boons per ru...
Is this better than rare boons?
rustic vale
Is this better than rare boons?
Miles more
fluid gazelle
Oh damnit. Sorry. I didnt realize I was on the H1 channel
rustic vale
1) red/green
2) red
3) red/green
4) red
5) red
6) red/green
7) red
8) red/...
If you want to landmark which mirror options you want to definitely upgrade look at this
fluid gazelle
I meant to ask about the H2 update. Apologies.
opaque vine
Gods' Legacy boosts your duo and legendary chances
Better than epic boons?
rustic vale
Better than epic boons?
Shadow vs Fiery does depend on the weapon and how high of a heat you're at. For speed, most weapons are going to want fiery to hit oneshot breakpoints, after a certain level of heat it doesn't really matter anymore so you can squeeze out a bit more boss dps with shadow.
Greater Reflex > Ruthless Reflex thanks to mobility for defence and offense, while giving you more dash-strikes for more dps. Ruthless is ok for like gilgamesh and some of the shields, since gilga has extra dashes and zeus shields dps is coming from far more than the dashes so you can pull some more benefit but I would still take greater reflex.
Boiling Blood is usually taken over abyssal for everything, damage is damage. I think some high heat gamers might use abyssal? Usually you save more hp by just killing things faster
Infernal vs Stygian does depend on if you're doing a cast build with a castpect. trippy shot wants stygian, most other casts want infernal. If you aren't doing a cast build, infernal offers Lightning Rod for dps, and more burst damage from casts in tartarus, while stygian offers better hermes odds for rush delivery.
Deep Pockets >>> Gold Touch. Obols spent now makes you stronger earlier so you get far more benefit from them, particularly being able to take the midshop in tartarus to potentially add a god to your god pool. (essentially lets you snowball harder)
Thick Skin is better for heat while high confidence is better for speed.
Family Favourites offers more dps for every build that isn't hangover or crush-burst hera. Very simple, no head needed, no inconsistent or weird playstyle changes needed, and it applies to every single hit no matter what, so every hit on every enemy will benefit from it.
Dark Foresight >>> Olympian Favour. The value of 7 extra gold laurel rewards (boons/poms/hearts) can't be overstated.
Pride > Legacy. Stronger boons to work with your duos helps you win better than mid build with your duos.
Persuasion > Authority. Rerolling options is strong
opaque vine
Shadow vs Fiery does depend on the weapon and how high of a heat you're at. For ...
Thank you for this nice explanation really well written. Im just confused on pride vs legacy. Same description just legacy got legendary instead of epic. What is the difference, feels like a no brainer or im not getting it
stiff obsidian
legendaries and duos are a specific category of boons
epic is a rarity for regular boons
having higher quality / epic rarity boons is better than having a chance to get a legendary /duo
tacit ember
no cuz plush and aspects tell me that grey -> blue -> purple -> red -> orang
does the legendary and duo boost stack if you get multiple increases from chaos
does the egg give a 10% boost to chaos legendary chance
opaque vine
legendaries and duos are a specific category of boons
That makes sence yeah. What do u guys feel is more important? Could always raise the regular boons with the npc at the second world. But it is nice seing epic boons.
Usually i just go for regular builds i feel i get most consistent wins that way instead of not getting what im looking for but im kind of new to the game
latent moon
duos are relatively easy to get since seeing 2 different gods are a lot easier than seeing the same god 3/4 times
latent moon
and it's still like a 10 or 12% chance to see duos
epic boons are mainly a draw for hermes, which has reduced epic chances, and chaos, which epic buffs are just significantly better since you can't make up the rarity difference with poms like with normal boons
certain boons need a higher rarity to be good, some are just really nice, some are just eh with rarity
that 20% increased chance for epic boons is very noticeable
opaque vine
certain boons need a higher rarity to be good, some are just really nice, some a...
I usually stick with artemis poseidon zeus and purple guy
opaque vine
that 20% increased chance for epic boons is very noticeable
You recommend this more than legendary option? I kind of feel the same way. Only duo im looking for is ares and athena with fists
raw herald
+10% what
tacit ember
duo chance
raw herald
it should
rustic vale
duo chance
Yeah
latent moon
You recommend this more than legendary option? I kind of feel the same way. Only...
yeah like 99% of the time
arctic horizon
whats the best weapon to use to get through the first time
hybrid hedge
i need to be told if im insane or not
but the like song that plays when you are in a run, tartarus i think?
sounds like the first guitar part of paranoid android by radio head
tacit ember
whats the best weapon to use to get through the first time
shield if you want to play lame win game, bow or rail are easier, sword spear, fists being melee aspects are on the harder side
arctic horizon
i like shield, what aspect should i use
hybrid hedge
i like shield, what aspect should i use
zeus and hidden are the best
arctic horizon
im too broke
hybrid hedge
what aspects do you have?
tacit ember
im too broke
zeus is very usable at lv1
arctic horizon
the first 2
tacit ember
i need to be told if im insane or not
but the like song that plays when you are ...
you literally said this yesterday
hybrid hedge
you literally said this yesterday
didnt get an answr. and i feel insane
its annoying me
arctic horizon
chaos & me
tacit ember
bro fell for the chaos aspect misinformation
arctic horizon
so me?
tacit ember
chaos would have been ok if you kept the shield during your special liek zeus
tacit ember
you should save up some blood and buy zeus
otherwise the normal and chaos shields are functionally the same
just ignore the chaos gimick
arctic horizon
how do you get more titan blood if you already beat all the tartares bosses
tacit ember
you can check the shop
sometimes the guy sells blood for 15 keys
otherwise you can trade your way up
1 ambrosia is 1 blood
2 diamonds is 1 ambrosia
i think its 10 necter for a diamond
its not efficient resource wise
you will get more blood after you clear your first run
brisk trail
the main source of blood is locked behind beating the final boss at least once
basically, they don't want you unlocking/upgrading more than like 1-2 weapons before you beat the game once
brisk trail
kill the bull first, hide behind pillars when the other guy throws spears
arctic horizon
Is there a way to kill the bull guy before the boss fight
brisk trail
you can fight him as a mini-boss but you can't kill him
he will get his HP reduced by like 10% in the real fight
arctic horizon
Ooh so is it worth it
brisk trail
it's random, you don't get a choice
arctic horizon
Ok
wanton chasm
what is better divine strike or divine dash?
rustic vale
what is better divine strike or divine dash?
what weapon are you using?
wanton chasm
what weapon are you using?
bow and sometimes shield
rustic vale
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/502817768513470474/1497718214694797432/df...
who needs jolted anyways 🥀
vast raven
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/502817768513470474/1497718214694797432/df...
LP mogs anyways surely
rustic vale
bow and sometimes shield
divine strike is pretty decent on bow since it has pretty high base damage per hit and shield just has big sweeps and can have solid base damage with hammers
I'd take it
rustic vale
whatefver the 1 per 3 sec one is
Stygian :)
stiff obsidian
thats why im the goat
rustic vale
at least Stygian means your casts can't run away from youu
wanton chasm
divine strike is pretty decent on bow since it has pretty high base damage per h...
okie
stiff obsidian
LP mogs anyways surely
how did your run go
wanton chasm
divine strike is pretty decent on bow since it has pretty high base damage per h...
also do you have any suggestions what to use my necter on? I have three of them atm
vast raven
how did your run go
i won, i still got 6 more to go tho
rustic vale
also do you have any suggestions what to use my necter on? I have three of them ...
the main olympian gods, eurydice, charon, hypnos
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rustic vale
Cerberus and Skelly are pretty solid defensive keepsakes early game so you might want them
acorn is more for the final boss fight than any of the ones before it
fallow yew
what does 62 fear equal in heat
62 fear is everything except disabling arcana so whatever would be everything but disabling mirror
stiff obsidian
yea but difficulty wise
fallow yew
Though they’re definitely not comparable in difficulty so honestly still comparable to 65 or 67 fear
vast raven
what does 62 fear equal in heat
probably like 54 or smthn unsure
fallow yew
Yeah something like that
vast raven
im very numb to h2 difficulty atp
fallow yew
Idk what really makes up the final barrier of heat besides mirror, customs, and AP
vast raven
idr that
stiff obsidian
vast raven
it's been a while
rustic vale
what does 62 fear equal in heat
Heat = Fear * (5/9) -32 trust
vast raven
but yeah ive done 62 zeus both modded and unmodded
rustic vale
oh speaking of Shackle
rustic vale
the main olympian gods, eurydice, charon, hypnos
add sisyphus to this list
fallow yew
62 fear is still entirely playable. You get less boons cause of forfeit and you have to play around denial but it’s actually FAIR unlike UC and AP
62 fear is something you can win just by skill and some luck
stiff obsidian
not sure why i am playing again
id say cuz i got a controller but thats just the excuse
vast raven
ye its for that reason why i have a 50 winstreak on 62 (that stopped from boredom 🔥)
fallow yew
UC and AP give you nothing and then take away anything you do have
I’m still working on my first 62 but I’m taking a break from H2 for the moment
vast raven
fair enough lol, i saw u doing some h1 speeding right
fallow yew
Not speeding but just playing at the pace I normally play at lol
If 13 minutes is considered speeding 🤷♂️
No overtime and using EM3
vast raven
was it your fastest clear? then you were speeding trust
fallow yew
was it your fastest clear? then you were speeding trust
Yeah I didn’t feel slow but I’m definitely not optimizing anything
stiff obsidian
id play h2 but i really dont want to go through the whole thing of getting good and grinding over hundreds of hours all over again
vast raven
thats why i got handed a maxed save
stiff obsidian
i already have a maxed save
fallow yew
Yeah you can just use the saves on H2Crossroads or ask somebody
stiff obsidian
i think
fallow yew
Ah. Skill grinding
stiff obsidian
yea
fallow yew
was it your fastest clear? then you were speeding trust
12:41 I think like a second room satyr sack
And no companions yet lol
I’m just playing the game
stiff obsidian
if i want something to grind i guesss i could always do 59 unmodded
read if i needed to make myself uninstall
fallow yew
What all mods are actually used usually?
rustic vale
What all mods are actually used usually?
Speedrun modpack specifically
Not just any mods
I don’t know the contents off the top of my head bc I play unmodded
stiff obsidian
choose first boon first hammer 2 sack show fountain certainmidbosses skipped firstboonepic am i missing anything specific
toggle hell mode ig but that doesnt affect the run
rustic vale
Whichever one displays that it’s a unique seed
stiff obsidian
quick restart, intro cutscene
rustic vale
quick restart, intro cutscene
Is the splits victory screen default innthe modpack
stiff obsidian
theres an option for it idk if its default or not
rustic vale
I don’t think firstboon epic is used for speed
It’s included but not allowed for submissions yeah?
Or was I talking to a high heat player
hmm
fallow yew
choose first boon first hammer 2 sack show fountain certainmidbosses skipped fir...
God damn your speedrunning mods sound like a dream
We all just play vanilla, show us rerolling the seed at the start of the run, then suffer when we don’t get our mandatory hammer for 20 runs
latent moon
it helps a lot for playing the game at a higher level so you just roll less rng dice
having to hit a specific hammer just for your run to get off the ground is very annoying having to reset for it
stiff obsidian
is there a reason everyone decided to not have a speedrun modpack for h2
latent moon
and then not having to win a coin flip for styx is really nice
fallow yew
having to hit a specific hammer just for your run to get off the ground is very ...
Our entire meta lives on a specific hammer
vast raven
(there is an h2 modpack actually, just no one uses it)
vast raven
they are VERY impactful
fallow yew
Possessed array, psychic whirlwind, giga cleaver, trick knives
Just to name the biggest ones
Exhaust riser
Basically all of those are fundamental to some weapons
Possessed array is the entirety of skull meta
vast raven
- src doesnt have a modded category
- ppl dont really mind the nature of unmodded at least at the moment
fallow yew
Possessed array is the entirety of skull meta
Its the H2 equivalent of Beowulf
But you need a hammer to get it
So you gotta roll a 1/4 that your run even gets off the ground in region 1
latent moon
1. src doesnt have a modded category
2. ppl dont really mind the nature of unmod...
fair enough for point 2 i guess
fallow yew
Skull meta is “did you get a good gain and P-array in region 1? No? Reset”
But we don’t have legal mods
And now the hidden aspect skull just got reworked an now has a god hammer as well
vast raven
also like fountain room indicator no?
not sure, havent used it personally lol
fallow yew
In H2 we just suffer to the whims of true RNG
stiff obsidian
do u have approval process
fallow yew
You can get screwed a little bit here and there by vow of Denial but it's fair by comparison to AP
vast raven
do u have approval process
nope equivalent of it has actual strategy which is cool tho
stiff obsidian
i remember
rustic vale
no its a separate mod
I went to check the actual list and just ended up downloading the modpack 
Codextech prevention, don't get vorimed,
it has the colourblind mod built in
interesting
tepid plover
i remember
The begging dude now joined the dead cells server and is spamming there now, what a funny person
latent moon
no way lmfao
finite geyser
I want to play hades 1 but I'm going too fast achilies won't unlock the aspects for me
Damn me for being good
tepid plover
Suffering from success
finite geyser
Literally my favorite aspect
brisk trail
I want to play hades 1 but I'm going too fast achilies won't unlock the aspects ...
do you even need to talk to Achilles for that? just unlock all weapons
I believe I had the aspects unlocked after run 9
tepid plover
you need to talk to achilles to kickstart everything, he gives you guang yu
brisk trail
you need to talk to achilles to kickstart everything, he gives you guang yu
Chiron is not a hidden aspect
brisk trail
maybe they just missed that part where you click on the weapon twice while in the training grounds, this is how you unlock other, non-hidden, aspects
it's not very obvious
finite geyser
do you even need to talk to Achilles for that? just unlock all weapons
I didn't mean the hidden aspects 8 meant normal ones
tepid plover
yeah keep reading
brisk trail
I didn't mean the hidden aspects 8 meant normal ones
yes, you need to unlock all 6 base weapons, once you do that, you will be able to unlock their aspects after the next run
finite geyser
I chose to die to the lava because it's faster
bright dagger
Spoiler question ||can i go and die in the first room to reset all conversation options if I just want to get Nyx to tell me where the paper for Sisyphus is||
wise latch
bright dagger
... what
rustic vale
Spoiler question ||can i go and die in the first room to reset all conversation ...
Yes
fallow yew
Benefits Package is so much more annoying than Vow of Fangs in H2 what the hell are these perks
I love being completely unable to go anywhere in an entire room because I'm being chased by 5 million orbs cause witch projectile spam with seeking
Already knew athena was super good in this game but DAMN
rustic vale
I love being completely unable to go anywhere in an entire room because I'm bein...
Is this for the miniboss room specifically
fallow yew
Even just a normal encounter
Got a first room of nothing but the ones that shoot like 15 projectiles out that all chase you around
rustic vale
It’s been a while since I ran high heat but at the very least the witches miniboss room has a set-up to instantly knock off all their shields
It cuts down the time it takes to do the room by like 75% ngl
With meg
fallow yew
I'm doing 32 heat with no companions lol
We ball
Game is yet to give me an actual build but 8:24 past lernie
stiff obsidian
I love being completely unable to go anywhere in an entire room because I'm bein...
this is why i stopped playing last night
stiff obsidian
It’s been a while since I ran high heat but at the very least the witches minibo...
hes talking about tart rooms
fallow yew
No I was talking asphodel
fallow yew
Still being chased around by 5 million projectiles
fallow yew
Yup we love those rooms
stiff obsidian
im trying rama right now and i get roadblocked by these rooms
literally cant clear them idk what im supposed to do
fallow yew
Yeah H2 62 fear is super fair and balanced by comparison to some of the BS high heat can pull
Yeah got absolutely brutalized by Elysium BS well that sucks
The game refused to give me a single damn boon for nearly 2 full regions
fallow yew
Talos. Was going for merciful end with curse of longing but the game never once gave me ares special
stiff obsidian
curse of longing??
fallow yew
I know it's not great but it would have worked with what i was going for
fallow yew
Just since I could get doom on enemies with special then keep activating merciful end with attack
stiff obsidian
athena attack?
fallow yew
Yes it's what i got early on
fallow yew
I never got divine dash
I'm playing off vibes right now feel free to criticize the build but 🤷♂️
stiff obsidian
ME always wants doom on atk
fallow yew
I'm just going for a win
I know I usually go for that but didn't get it
I'm aware it's better
stiff obsidian
and curse of longing does nothing iirc, with ME i think it literally does not do anything
fallow yew
Especially with the reapplication stacking
stiff obsidian
since the doom gets procced immediately
fallow yew
It doesn't reapply it still?
rustic vale
It doesn't reapply it still?
It doesn’t