bc you're wasting time
#h1-discussion
latent moon
like technically speaking, turtling or dodging infinitely with chip damage can clear very high heats, but you're limited by the tight deadline timer
and also your ability to dodge perfectly every time
you also don't learn how to mechanically play the aspect at its full potential lmao
lavish sorrel
and also your ability to dodge perfectly every time
Was boutta say, I don't think turtling works too well in asphodel, heroes and em4 lmao
latent moon
yeah lmao
brisk trail
oh yeah about dodging, what's the best use of divine dash? do you intentionally dodge into projectiles to send them back?
it works on daddy's skulls
latent moon
not really most of the time? i only do it for dad casts, witches circle, and the ely splitter witches
but otherwise not really
brisk trail
so it's mostly for extra protection and you don't need to do anything unusual?
latent moon
yeah pretty much
lavish sorrel
oh yeah about dodging, what's the best use of divine dash? do you intentionally ...
lets you dashstrike through deflectable attacks without coming to harm, but will not protect you against attacks that cannot. A very useful tool.
latent moon
if it's an easy projectile to deflect back then you'd go for it, but otherwise you dont really think about it
lavish sorrel
Yeah it's more of a defensive pick. Ares or poseidon dash (and sometimes artemis if the aspect benefits from it) are more offensive
brisk trail
unlike 2, a lot of projectiles can also be destroyed with attacks, it seems
it's inconsistent though
it works on the witch enemies for example
lavish sorrel
unlike 2, a lot of projectiles can also be destroyed with attacks, it seems
More than 2 lmfao
I can from the top of my head name 3 and be sure there are more I forgot
brisk trail
I meant Hades 2
you can't destroy projectiles in Hades 2 with regular attacks
anyway, I guess this mostly works on small-ish energy ball like projectiles, Megaera, the witches etc
if you're playing the gun you can just shoot at the enemy and you'll be safe, a bit counterintuitive
brisk trail
I really dislike the default bow, wonder if the aspects are less tedious
lavish sorrel
I really dislike the default bow, wonder if the aspects are less tedious
Insert standingstrike-itus copypasta here
brisk trail
maybe Hera is decent but it needs a lot of upgrades
brisk trail
yeah I realize dash striking is better, but it's like you're already at long range, why dash when you can just shoot
feels like you're adding an extra step
tacit ember
Cuz faster charge
More DPS and maneuverability
Most weapons dash attacks have comparable range to normal attacks
brisk trail
oh btw, dark thirst doesn't matter unless the boss drops are darkness this run?
tacit ember
is that the mirror that heals you when you colelct darkness
oh no dakr thirst is the weapon thingy
dark thirst affects any darkness item pickup
room clears, shops etc
but ive not gone out of my way to farm darkness so i cant really speak on if its worth using
rustic vale
yeah I realize dash striking is better, but it's like you're already at long ran...
dash -> shoot is faster
provides a variety of advantages for bow specifically since it ends up rooted in place a lot
more consistent damage output, higher base damage output per second as long as you’re power-shotting (otherwise it’s the same base damage output), can scale off Lunge boons from chaos instead of only Strike boons, the quicker charge and mobility go hand in hand with not getting hit nearly as often
rustic vale
more consistent damage output, higher base damage output per second as long as ...
TL:DR
stiff obsidian
Keymouse board
rustic vale
Am tired
stiff obsidian
same
brisk trail
played an Eris run (upgraded to rank 3, spent all my blood on this lol), I did win with 1 DD left, but it's a weird weapon, basically you have to be in melee range but you don't have hitstun
not sure how to play it properly, I just ended up not bothering with the buff when it was sketchy
it got better when I got the rocket bomb hammer in Elysium though, just get in range for a quick blast to buff up, then pull out
rocket bomb + tripple bomb is probably a complete faceroll, but that's a lot of luck
rotund tangle
Rocket + Cluster is THE one
brisk trail
on my previous run I got tripple bomb and it allows you to use the special 3x before reloading, I'd imagine this would be pretty crazy on Eris
this time I got targeting system which also synergizes well with Eris though, enemies stay put as you shoot them, but it was a waste after I got rocket bomb
tacit ember
personally i dont like eris
its mostly because i havent learned how to reload, i assume there is a propper damage rotation
its prolly just before special
anyway this causes gaps in my damage which is annoying for clearing rooms
brisk trail
special auto-reloads if you're out
tacit ember
im refering to your attack
brisk trail
yeah, if you're out of the ammo for the attack, the next time you use the special it will also reload all your ammo
tacit ember
and about "basically you have to be in melee range", you can go in to grab the buff and dash out if you want
brisk trail
the idea is you special to buff up, then shoot your entire clip, then special again
tacit ember
though you will get more damage out if you stay close, this is more or less true for all weapons though
tacit ember
yeah, if you're out of the ammo for the attack, the next time you use the specia...
i think it just reloads by itself when you are out
but point is it doesnt feel very optimal to just wait for it to reload
brisk trail
i think it just reloads by itself when you are out
only when you special or dash
and only if you're conpletely out, which is the tricky part
tacit ember
the idea is you special to buff up, then shoot your entire clip, then special ag...
i dont think so
since you want to special offcooldown more or less
it does alot of damage so there is no point for special downtime
and special cooldown doesnt line up with a whole clip
i imainge manually reloading before every special would be more efficient
brisk trail
it depends on the build, some are attack focused, some are special focused
I ran the classic zeus/poseidon build again though, zeus attack + chain lightning + jolt + cast, poseidon special + call
I wonder if Dio is good on this thing
tacit ember
i dont think so
brisk trail
well, this is my strongest unlocked weapon by far, so I guess I'm in for a lot of zeus/poseidon eris runs
at least until I have enough blood for Nemesis or Achilles
tacit ember
there is one build for eris and tis zeus
brisk trail
I have the keepsakes, I can force this build every time
tacit ember
unless you have the legendary i really doubt later game you are getting more damage form attack than youre specials
skull
tacit ember
I have the keepsakes, I can force this build every time
... yes and im saying i am already concidering this build and still think its better to special off cooldown than emptying the mag
brisk trail
... yes and im saying i am already concidering this build and still think its be...
I mean yeah once I got the rockets I was spamming them off cooldown because they're pretty fast
rustic vale
Just special whenever you feel like it 
As long as it happens sometime every 4s you’ll be fine
brisk trail
yeah you can just blast it into a nearby wall lmao
tacit ember
Just special whenever you feel like it <:zaggrin:1012805270776316078>
was it you who shared that video of damage rotations
rustic vale
Yeah
rustic vale
rustic vale
i think there might have been an eris one
It has all meaningfully different weapons and aspects
so like the 3 regular fists are just rolled into one iirc
tacit ember
in the video they are traiding doing special off cooldown to shoot all 12 shots actually
rustic vale
Makes sense to me it takes >2 seconds to fire a full eris clip if you’re dash-striking
and your buff lasts 4
If you have clockets it’s a slightly different story
tacit ember
what is clockets
rustic vale
Rocket bomb + Cluster bomb for a 400 base damage shotgun special
brisk trail
tbh I don't like looking at my armor counter, so I just manually reload on vibes which feels wrong lol
I need more practice with this aspect
brisk trail
already spent 6 blood on this thing, I'm gonna keep playing it
then I will unlock Nemesis (special into 2 dash strikes) or Achilles (same, but dash strikes on spear are ass, so not sure if I really want it)
Achilles' boost is huge though, double that of Eris, there's gotta be a catch?
rustic vale
No catch
You’re just really reliant on the flurry jab hammer
and achilles boost only applies to the next 4 strike and casts after your special
it says as much in the tooltip
So it’s a massive cast booster
brisk trail
you will be re-applying the boost every 2-3 hits naturally
but I've been practicing spear dash strikes on skelly and idk, they're kinda unwieldy, sword feels much better
they're hard to aim
rustic vale
Yeah with flurry jab it’s special -> dstrike 2x -> special
rustic vale
Yeah with flurry jab it’s special -> dstrike 2x -> special
without flurry jab it’s the same you’re just missing like half the damage
since flurry causes dash-strikes to instantly fire a standing strike after
so you effectively get 2x as many hits
brisk trail
hmm
rustic vale
and can hold down the strike button
Little bonus being then you can benefit from extending jab and triple jab on all the standing strikes that pop out
rustic vale
hmm
This is what you’re up to whenever you’re not using that massive +150% to boost a cast btw
brisk trail
are Achiles cast builds actually popular?
tacit ember
i think achilles cast builds are more worth playing that standard achilles
brisk trail
you'd think Hera is a better option
tacit ember
skull
brisk trail
what
tacit ember
achilles is if you want to play hunting rifts or the dem cast
rustic vale
you'd think Hera is a better option
They do 2 seperate things and make use of very different casts
tacit ember
other casts are ok also
rustic vale
achilles uses hunting blades and lightning phalanx because they’re very persisent and get a load of value from the additive
while Hera can abuse the naturally high numbers of aphro cast while mitigating every problem it has
tacit ember
im a lighting phalanx hater
lighting is more a nice bonus than a win condition like hunting
brisk trail
eh, I'll get Nemesis first, that one's straightforward enough
tacit ember
what makes it ok imo is that base athena is good and athena is in the pool
rustic vale
Funny thing is both nem and achilles commonly start with tidal dash
tacit ember
me when no athena dash
rustic vale
tacit ember
actually after playing rama 45 i feel that i dont actually need it but i still have the compulsion to want it
brisk trail
btw, Dio's boon that makes all fountains full heals + permanent damage boosts is very very good
took Dio on a whim in Elysium, ended up with +6% damage and full health at daddy
tacit ember
me when lasting consiquenses 4
rustic vale
Global additive is global additive
tacit ember
more like pool of purging fodder
manic finch
btw, Dio's boon that makes all fountains full heals + permanent damage boosts is...
wtf is Dio doing here
he's supposed to be in Egypt
tacit ember
the server is so quiet today
everyone must be busy with international waffle day
or manatee appreciation day
greek indipendence day
granite musk
I noticed that most server I'm in are slower today
manic finch
https://tenor.com/view/out-of-loop-gif-5963534163597527343
are you sure
granite musk
I recently picked up the rama bow and I'm trying to learn it, but I'm having a bit of an issue with how long it takes to charge up a shot, I heard that dash striking makes it load faster, but it also makes it deal less damage and I was wondering if the lower charge time makes up for the damage reduction?
stiff obsidian
I recently picked up the rama bow and I'm trying to learn it, but I'm having a b...
Dash striking wins
By alot
It's not just Abt dps aswell cuz with dash strikes u will be able to dash around much more
granite musk
Dash striking wins
I see, thanks
jagged hamlet
You may not always get a power shot off with Rama, yeah
stiff obsidian
yall use summon on l2?
wtf
and im trying sword and
how tf do you even dash strike
mint coral
yall use summon on l2?
Summon on X here 
mint coral
how tf do you even dash strike
Roll your thumb? (Switch) Dash with the bottom of thumb then attack
stiff obsidian
what the helll
finite rock
You could also remap the button ✌️
stiff obsidian
is this what they call shooting urself in the foot
stiff obsidian
You could also remap the button ✌️
yes just finished completly changing every bind
😌
finite rock
What platform you on?
mint coral
what the helll
¯_(ツ)_/¯
stiff obsidian
pc
mint coral
I could never get used to dash on trigger in hades lmfao
finite rock
I could never get used to dash on trigger in hades lmfao
I use it sometimes. I have mappable back paddles
mint coral
Oh for beo I do l2 attack specifically
stiff obsidian
i jus dont get dash striking with 1 finger
mint coral
Oh for beo I do l2 attack specifically
Weird muscle memory
finite rock
Hades 2 completely threw me off
stiff obsidian
i jus dont get dash striking with 1 finger
maybe just kbm muscle memory carrying over
finite rock
With the dash rework
stiff obsidian
anyway time to start at 32 heat and work my way up
mint coral
Hades 2 completely threw me off
Trying to cast to stop the chariots
stiff obsidian
i tried zagbow earlier and timed out before furies
finite rock
Zag bow is good with the crit
stiff obsidian
Trying to cast to stop the chariots <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
but i do cast to stop chariots
frozen lion
My binds are WASD to move, space to dash, lmb for attack, mmb for special, rmb for cast, m4 for interact, m5 for interact, shift for call, tab for boons, backtick for codex, and f for gift
finite rock
Also just attack them when they aren't moving
stiff obsidian
My binds are WASD to move, space to dash, lmb for attack, mmb for special, rmb f...
is middle mouse not clunky
finite rock
What is the point of using kbm? I've always been a console gamer
The 360° movement is just right for me personally
mint coral
I think zeus shield can be managed better too?
stiff obsidian
Kysona M600, great scroll click
ohh looks interesting
frozen lion
What is the point of using kbm? I've always been a console gamer
Easier aiming
stiff obsidian
wireless?
finite rock
I think zeus shield can be managed better too?
How so?
stiff obsidian
i am looking for a decent wireless mouse
frozen lion
And more comfortable for high input density
mint coral
Oops
stiff obsidian
lolol
finite rock
stiff obsidian
but tbh i am trying rail on skelly and i prefer kbm
finite rock
Aim assist is like glue on controller
I turned it off
mint coral
Try aiming spear special and watch it snap to enemies lol
stiff obsidian
actually have to aim with controler
finite rock
I never used aim assist
frozen lion
Try aiming spear special and watch it snap to enemies lol
Or even Rama attack
finite rock
It was annoying
frozen lion
Or aphro cast
mint coral
actually have to aim with controler
Just get rocket bomb every run ez
frozen lion
You want to angle it so that two baddies get caught right at opposite edges of the attack, but noooooo, snappi snappi
mint coral
how do u do it
I just let the aim assist do it
finite rock
Only time the game crashed for me was on Switch
mint coral
I only manually aim if enemies are spawning
finite rock
Settings ✌️
mint coral
just let go of the joystick'?
Yeah
stiff obsidian
oh
finite rock
That too
mint coral
If you tap the special near enemies it'll do it on its own
finite rock
I never knew this??
mint coral
Like I said, is super snappy
The only weapon I don't like it much is on achilles and lucifer
finite rock
Lucifer is hard to aim with already
mint coral
The only weapon I don't like it much is on achilles and lucifer
It still works by pretty much "aiming? What's that" but kbm does work better for it
Much easier to detonate bombs with the beam too
finite rock
Attack on R2 is crazy but hey more power to ya
stiff obsidian
its my first combat game on controller 😭 dont judge
mint coral
Not judging lol
finite rock
No not at all man
stiff obsidian
finite rock
The devs did that for a reason 😇
mint coral
My weirdest thing is with hera and beo lol
mint coral
I do attack on l2/cast left face button for beo
But I need to swap those for hera
Or it feels wrong
finite rock
I use the same bindings for every aspect
mint coral
I only swap for those 2 cuz special who
finite rock
The only remap is reload on R3/R Stick
mint coral
For the rest is l2 special/left face attack/bottom face dash (cast/call default, summon on top face)
Reload on l1
finite rock
Interesting
stiff obsidian
damn
mint coral
My rama was stuck with triple first
stiff obsidian
😭
finite rock
If anyone has a switch 2 handheld boost is amazing with hades
It's my go to way outside of PC
stiff obsidian
wait for the forced reset aswell
need kb?
ohmygod pausing for doors is so awkward
finite rock
Bro what 😭
stiff obsidian
strategically used summon 3 chambers in a row
mint coral
wait for the forced reset aswell
You shouldn't??
You can prob change the combo for it to something easier tho
Iirc you can change it right
mint coral
<:niko:1315303986458267730>
I wonder if I still have that awful habit with pausing
stiff obsidian
Iirc you can change it right
i never checked
mint coral
strategically used summon 3 chambers in a row
Also mood
stiff obsidian
game so cursed im literally button mashing and winning
eris is just goated like that
mint coral
Oonga boonga me put bullet in dad
stiff obsidian
this is too frustrating
weak path
ALL HAIL GREG AND AMIR
ALL HAIL GREG AND AMIR
ALL HAIL GREG AND AMIR
Hades II on PlayStation 🥹❤️🩹🌹
stiff obsidian
this is h1
mint coral
H1 chat
stiff obsidian
i legit thought this was a spambot
mint coral
this is too frustrating
What's getting you
stiff obsidian
ngl
mint coral
Oh, no yeah mood
weak path
I KNOW THIS IS H1, BUT IT’S STILL SO PEAK 🥹❤️🩹🌹
mint coral
I have the same issue the few times trying kbm
Last time I tried remapping summon I also wasted like half the charges in tart
stiff obsidian
this run every time i wanted to use call i pressed every button my fingers reached simultaneously
mint coral
Sadly there aren't many tips that aren't just, building muscle memory
stiff obsidian
yes
vast raven
i think my meg is bound to the X key so i still occasionally tap it whenever i mean to call bc that’s C
vast raven
felt comfy when i played actively
mint coral
Is there a reason you swapped to controller btw
stiff obsidian
i have a controller now
so i thought i will push heat on bow
any excuse to play this game
mint coral
Fair enough
misty prawn
hey guys
jagged hamlet
Hey, guy 👋
misty prawn
I am playing Hades at 768p (I know, I have a potato pc) and the character spirites seem to be fuzzy when compared to the sourrounding
is it intended or somekind of problem ?
jagged hamlet
It's probably just due to models not being fully 3D. There was a discussion about models a few days ago. Lemme see if I can't find it
misty prawn
it will be a great help if there is a way to somehow fix it🙏
jagged hamlet
misty prawn
well I think it is intended but I can be wrong because I can notice same problem in Hades 2 as well
gray beacon
hi
stiff obsidian
I am playing Hades at 768p (I know, I have a potato pc) and the character spirit...
😭
iron chasm
Im playing it at 114p it's pretty fun so far
little lark
Is the Chiron aspect really that bad?
It shreds through bosses with the Zeus aspect pretty well imo
rustic vale
Is the Chiron aspect really that bad?
More like it’s just not as good
it’s gimmick is slow and doesn’t pump out damage like hera does for speed, nor does it have enough multi-target damage for high heat really, where Rama excels instead
It’s really dangerous for heat as well due to the length of the special animation for what you’re getting out of it
and it’s hardly as consistent as any other bow for good build dps like there are 6 solid strike hammers and only 2 real special hammers
When you put it all together it just ends up being the 4th best bow aspect
the only place it really stands out in is being brain dead easy to use
Its the bow aspect you use when you still don’t really know how to play bow and it’s easy enough to use to take you far into like the 40 heats
little lark
I see
rustic vale
It shreds through bosses with the Zeus aspect pretty well imo
Btw
zeus can’t really work as well on Chiron as one would think
The bolts have an internal cooldown of 0.167s per bolt from a given source
so chiron hitting the same enemy 8 times in .2 seconds only results in 2 bolts
little lark
Darn
ALSO
As much as I like Chiron personally, there's also this issue where, at a close enough range, the arrows get all wonky and turn when they don't really need to
Which makes your DPS worse
Also also
Small complaint
I don't like Flurry Shot
Personally speaking
It defeats using the bow for me
rustic vale
As much as I like Chiron personally, there's also this issue where, at a close e...
yeah
homing can’t be perfect
little lark
Yeah
rustic vale
It defeats using the bow for me
I only like it for Hera because I’m already dealing with spamming casts into my bow while firing
But I’m more of a zag-bow purist
little lark
I'm a Rama/Chiron enjoyer
rustic vale
Although I think my zag bow speed pb might be with flurry shot 
little lark
:3
little lark
Although I think my zag bow speed pb might be with flurry shot <:thanthink:66924...
I'm sorry but I dislike Flurry Shot
Lmao
rustic vale
I'm sorry but I dislike Flurry Shot
I’m not the biggest fan of it either
It does just remove the rythm game part of bow for me
rustic vale
That’s the same reason I’m a zag-bow purist like
little lark
If I wanted to hold and forget, I'd play the Twin Fists
rustic vale
hera has too much going on with the casts, chiron is trying to not strike, and Rama is just a slower charge so it’s not as intensive of a pattern
rustic vale
Although I think my zag bow speed pb might be with flurry shot <:thanthink:66924...
Found it
Can confirm
It has flurry shot
rustic vale
I did get a fair amount into speedrunning
to be fair
I think it’s fairly realistic for a casual Hades player to get down to around 12-15 minutes on average
maybe get a sub11 here and there and go out of their way to achieve a sub10
eventually
little lark
I can't tell if I'm casual or not
I like improving and getting better and more consistent
But I'm not big into theorycrafting and speedrunning
rustic vale
To be fair like you don’t need to be too much into the theory crafting yourself at this point there are a lot of resources and people put together to help guide you down getting better
There’s also high heat
For the first like
400 hours of my Hades career I’d never touched speed
I was more of a heat guy and barely a heat guy at that like my heat pb is 40 I just stick around here and absorb information about high heat gameplay from the guys here and on the speedrunning server who do play high heat
little lark
I think the main drive for me is getting high Heat
Hades is one of the few games that scratches that itch for me
It feels good to KILL THINGS
rustic vale
Right?
rustic vale
I think the main drive for me is getting high Heat
I’ve found getting better at one usually helps with the other tbh
like when I went from 40 heat to speed I realised how tanky zag is when you’re only running the speedrunning pacts
Which in turn lets you gain speed through knowing what you can facetank etc
where speed
I don’t know what speed did but I went back to high heat after doing a lot of all aspects speedrunning over the summer and pumped out wins with like 9 or 10 aspects I’d never cleared with 32 heat over a couple runs (like 2 consecutive evenings)
They also lend into each other because if you ever get tired or bored or just want to break it up from one
You can swap to the other
little lark
Yeah
That's like
A massive thing for me
The fact that I can just switch aspects if I get bored
And there are 4 seperate Aspects per weapon
Also
Question
Does the size of the spin for the spear scale with damage bonuses?
rustic vale
Does the size of the spin for the spear scale with damage bonuses?
No
Hades Spear secretly gives a 30% radius increase if you hadn’t noticed
that might be why you think that
tacit ember
I can't tell if I'm casual or not
I would consider myself a pretty casual player but I am working on clearing 51 heat with all weapons
I think it's more about attitude than skill or difficulty
rustic vale
I think it's more about attitude than skill or difficulty
Fair enough
You about 19 heats higher than the average Hades gamer even remotely touches
but like
rustic vale
I think it's more about attitude than skill or difficulty
I don’t play Hades competetively persay but I think I crossed the line at some point like 3 years ago when I just became an info sponge for Hades and then repeat the information back out when people ask about it
I think the fact that I’ve actively been reading through the game files and scripts might also say something about that
tacit ember
I would agree there is a certain negative correlation between level of technicality or complexity someone engages with vs "casualness"
That being said I do gravitate toward games with complexity while considering myself pretty casual
rustic vale
I would agree there is a certain negative correlation between level of technical...
Mmm
Casual 5d chess with multiversal timetravel player
I suppose
little lark
That being said I do gravitate toward games with complexity while considering my...
"I play for fun"
:p
tacit ember
"I play for fun"
Wow me too
tacit ember
Me playing Hades 2 62fear to prove that Hades 1 is better
rustic vale
Hades 1 so good it keeps pulling me back in every few months
then I chat about it all year round go on a break and then get the itch again
and again
rustic vale
Me playing Hades 2 62fear to prove that Hades 1 is better
How does this prove Hades 1 is better?
does the peak difficulty of a game indicate that one is superior to the other?
tacit ember
Though me comparing my subjective enjoyment
little lark
Me when someone has a different opinion
tacit ember
Well I'm obviously correct
Anyone who dissagrees is free to challenge me to a dual with rapier or small sword
little lark
I just realized
Hades and Zag's relationship reminds me a lot of Aryatos and Kratos
Or whatever his kid's name is
Atreus*
rustic vale
Me when someone has a different opinion
See when it’s my opinion though
I’m based and I know what I’m talking about
rustic vale
Does Damage Reduction have a cap in Hades?
There’s no need because DR is multiplicative
You can’t get to 0%
little lark
Ah
Using Arthur's aspect atm
Gonna use the Armored Brace + Aphro boons to achieve MAXIMUM TANK
rustic vale
So like 2 sources of 30% damage reduction are
(70% damage taken)*(70% damage taken) = 49% damage taken = 51% damage reduction
instead of 60% damage reduction
It’s my favourite example because it shows how the weak debuff and hyper sprint literally make you take half damage when combined
2 boons, half damage taken
little lark
Also uhh
I forgot which boon it is
But the boon that gives you health back after taking damage is effectively damage reduction imo
rustic vale
But the boon that gives you health back after taking damage is effectively damag...
Quick recovery from Hermes?
lavish sorrel
There’s no need because DR is multiplicative
or, to speak nerd for a moment
lim(Π(x, {∀x ∈ Q+, 0 -> +∞}, 1/x)) = 0
little lark
What's the lore reason as to why Alecto and Tisiphone turn into butterflies but Meg doesn't?
I like your funny words, magic man
rustic vale
you know what
I think I also have the product characrer
Π
Yup
perks of having the greek keyboard as an option on my phone
tacit ember
they should just enable posting images bruh
its actually so annoying to have to post links to discord images
tacit ember
rustic vale
They should just disable bots from joining the server
stiff obsidian
Oh einstein here
rustic vale
Clear 64 heat for senior management at SSG
stiff obsidian
64 join supergiant
tacit ember
64 heat to join dev team
stiff obsidian
Same braincell
rustic vale
Same braincell
Every man yearns to join the SSG development team
The way the children yearn for the mines
tacit ember
if i become an ssg dev im adding rerolls for hammers for fated persuasion
vote me 2026
stiff obsidian
Ur vencord emotes get their corners rounded on mobile
So it's just a circle cat
rustic vale
if i become an ssg dev im adding rerolls for hammers for fated persuasion
I think realistically
tacit ember
🥖
rustic vale
It wouldn’t be that hard to fine the line you need to add
tacit ember
banning double dash
rustic vale
nah
stiff obsidian
No
rustic vale
blacklist this guy immediately
stiff obsidian
Fr
tacit ember
you have nothing to lose but your chains
rustic vale
actively untfue
stiff obsidian
I pray you never beat 64 heat
rustic vale
losing speed is not a worthy transaction
tacit ember
I pray you never beat 64 heat
my anti double dash propaganda would go through the roof wow
rustic vale
Way to entrench beowulf as the speed aspect even further
tacit ember
maybe i should try some modded giga high heat
rustic vale
my anti double dash propaganda would go through the roof wow
I don’t think it really would tbh
like
64 heat by necessity can only ever have monodash
it’s completely different from the rest of the game
stiff obsidian
tacit ember
rustic vale
It’d be like giving pro spin guan-yu propaganda when that’s only used for like 60 heat and up
Sure you beat 64 heat with it but it’s actively worse than your other options until that point
It’s all the conditions lining up perfectly for it to be one of the few things that can excel there
tacit ember
it doesnt matter cuz beating high difficulty automatically means i have more clout
little lark
I still don't know why the other furies turn into butterflies instead of being drowned in the blood soup
tacit ember
i would suggest that only ppl who return to the house do the blood thing
namely zag meg and hader
little lark
Oh yeah that makes sense
brave meadow
Hader
tacit ember
hader
brave meadow
We love hader
tacit ember
hader
tacit ember
now do forced over time 2 em4
tacit ember
ive done it sure
labor 4, overtime 2, em 4
lacking calisthenics program to be the strongest hades
shield really carries the hades fight
tacit ember
beo carry
stiff obsidian
I diddn't dare touch em4 until after 58
Still despise it
It's def not happening on controller ✌️ 😹
tacit ember
that's hl5, not 4
Oh mybad i was thinking it only went up to 4
lavish sorrel
My brother in Chaos this is a Hades server
misty prawn
jujtsu shenanigans
Seems interesting
tacit ember
My brother in Chaos this is a Hades server
hades when zag shoots for a single leg and puts him in an ankle lock
misty prawn
Hey guys sorry for being annoying but can someone tell me that if there is a way to deal with fuzzy character sprites at resolution lower than 1080p ?
tacit ember
Me when less pixels on lower Resolution
misty prawn
Me when less pixels on lower Resolution
Are you playing on lower resolution as well ?
tacit ember
Wompwomp
misty prawn
😂
stiff obsidian
What
tacit ember
idk either
misty prawn
idk either
Oh dear , in this pathetic life of yours there isn't much that you actually know😂
tacit ember
skull sure buddy
maybe you were looking in a mirror
😎 im a med student and got top 0.4% nation wide in my standardised test
stiff obsidian
Baller
iron chasm
I can't do 32 heat I'm too garbage at the game
tacit ember
32 heat is more about learning to make a pact and strategy than gameplay skill nessiarily
iron chasm
Yeah I've been trying to form one
Not really working out so far tho
I still keep getting bodied
tacit ember
idk what form one is
iron chasm
A strategy
tacit ember
i knowits bananas guide
i just dont know what thepact looks like off the top of my head
tacit ember
if you really just want a 32 heat clear imo you should run the aphro cast snowburst beo build
that or zeus special zeus shield
iron chasm
Time to farm more titan blood
tacit ember
you can run a lv 1 zeus or beo just fine
ebon urchin
Hello friends.
With H2 finaly coming to PS I am trying to mop up the remaining prophecies and trophies.
I don't know if I'll be able to unlock Skelly gifts (If I undersatand correctly it has to do with clearing a run with a specific amount of heat?)
So I'll focus on getting god specific prophecies. How do you farm for a specific skill? I am trying to get the last Poseidon one, I have his trinket maxed, but is there more I can do?
Also I realized I STILL haven't seen the "true" ending with ||Persephone plan to make peace with Olympus|| I'm not too sure how you are supposed to do that!
tacit ember
You have to max out affection with a couple of gods
Just give necter and ambrosia as you play whenever possible
Eventually Persephone will have an indicator for you to talk to her and Hades
iron chasm
Also you have to unlock two of the skelly statues for all the achievements
ebon urchin
Hmm thanks for the answers.
I guess the epilogue thing isn't too difficult, but some like the Thanatos challenge where you have to do 15 rooms without getting hit are a bit much for me...
I'll give it a shot as long as I'm having fun!
tacit ember
I bought a whole hot smoked salmon
Not sure how to prepare this
Gonna assume it's just heat up and eat
stiff obsidian
is this a hades thing i havent played in a while
tacit ember
There is fish in Hades
stiff obsidian
yea
little lark
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/725021639506526249/1452470033895784649/...
Unfortunately I'm not this good yet
I am what experts call
✨ Mediocre ✨
granite musk
✨ Mediocre ✨
ebon urchin
Hey is H2 more complex and or harder than H1?
vast raven
i think there are more mechanics in h2 but it is by far easier than h1
lavish sorrel
"Oh a new sggcord message, time to respond... Oh, frei's already typing, we're good" 🔥
tacit ember
time to play bibeo games
iron chasm
Hmm thanks for the answers.
I guess the epilogue thing isn't too difficult, but ...
Try to use the bow or the rail should help with clearing rooms without getting hit
Atleast that's what helped me get that achievement
tacit ember
wowow that piercing rail hammer lets you hit the shield guys through the shield
that is gonna blast theseus second phase
iron chasm
Pawesome
tacit ember
😭 pawsome?
damn if touch of styx lasted one more encounter it would have been up for hades
omg easy game
missed meg during the hades fight
but it did not matter
ebon urchin
Try to use the bow or the rail should help with clearing rooms without getting h...
Yeah, the rail especially with triple special and some element is still one of the easiest build. But I feel this kind of overkill doesn't help you get better... I'll still take it when I'll need to get that second consecutive win against Charron!
iron chasm
Yeah, the rail especially with triple special and some element is still one of t...
I mean if you just want the achievement that's the way to go I guess
tacit ember
Yeah, the rail especially with triple special and some element is still one of t...
i prefer hazzard bomb over tripple
they offer effectively the same damage but with trippe you have to click 3 times
ebon urchin
Well I also need to survive 16 heat Elysium!
The rail is good, but not that good!
tacit ember
but i think trippe is better objectively because of damage controll
tacit ember
Hmm thanks for the answers.
I guess the epilogue thing isn't too difficult, but ...
use shield, blocking is way too strong in this game
beo or zeus would be ideal, the two other shields would also be ok
ebon urchin
they offer effectively the same damage but with trippe you have to click 3 times
It's really strong, but I cannot count how many times I dashed into my own explosion 
tacit ember
if you play alot of eris or just rail in general there is the habit of dashing into your special
its pretty efficient for clearing rooms
iron chasm
Pawsome
tacit ember
pawsome indeed
ebon urchin
Shield can get crazy strong that's true!
tacit ember
anyway if all you want do is clear rooms nohit then use beo
iron chasm
Yeah Beowulf goes crazy
tacit ember
position yourself so that every enemy is infront of you, load all enough stones to kill an enemy completely and charge into it
rince and repeat
iron chasm
I did a Beowulf with Poseidon cast run once it was pretty good
tacit ember
i prefer the aphro cast build but mirrage cast is strong yea
ebon urchin
position yourself so that every enemy is infront of you, load all enough stones ...
Maybe I'll try and train to do that...
Seems like I have a ton of nectar to distribute anyway!
iron chasm
i prefer the aphro cast build but mirrage cast is strong yea
I should one with aphro cast it must be pretty strong
I do it a lot with the hera bow
Real tuf
I probably cleared like 3 runs In a row with Hera aphro cast builds once
tacit ember
aphro for consistency on beo but mirrage is stronger im pretty sure
my best streak is only 3
ebon urchin
Is there a way to influence the gods you get (outside trinkets)
ebon urchin
Seems like you guys played a lot, how many attempts do you have?
iron chasm
I have over a hundred attempts I think and around more than 50 clears
tacit ember
Is there a way to influence the gods you get (outside trinkets)
new gods will only naturally spawn if you have less than 4 unique gods
if you alreadyhave 4 in the pool then no new ones will spawn
practically this means if you see a god you want but also another reward
imagine a sinario where you can pick between a pom and a god
even if your main damaging boom goes form liek 50 to 100 from just one pom it might be advisable to pick the god if you want it in your pool so that you dont have to force it with a keepsake later
tacit ember
gona try a dd guanyu run
rustic vale
Is there a way to influence the gods you get (outside trinkets)
You’re just going to have to avoid the ones you don’t want when possible until you’ve taken boons from 4 regular olympians
Then it cuts the rest of them off for regular boons
Hermes and Chaos are seperate from this
rustic vale
Seems like you guys played a lot, how many attempts do you have?
I think 900+ on my main savefile atp
tacit ember
Seems like you guys played a lot, how many attempts do you have?
i only have 450 smth
rustic vale
The other thing that really helps with finding gods you want is taking shops
tacit ember
but this is my playthrough and i have some freshfile attempts
vast raven
i had made it to 2k a few times but reset my run count bc of hades save being weird once you make it to high numbers, so probably like at least 5k? maybe 6k
ebon urchin
Wow... Only around a hundred too...
tacit ember
i onlyhave one 51, doing 45 for everything rn
iron chasm
Still pretty crazy
iron chasm
My highest heat is only 20
latent moon
Idek how you do all these 50 heats bro
a lot of practice and tries lmao
sometimes both, sometimes one or the other
latent moon
ngl idk what "pierces" is supposed to mean here since it's already aoe but you just delete armor with breaching cross lmao
tacit ember
bruh i threw that run for no reason
i went onto lava to reset and i thought i went into the enxt room so i reached to drink some water
but i didnt click the room lol
iron chasm
a lot of practice and tries lmao
Yeah makes sense
Still not used to the enemies on steroids yet
tacit ember
omg i saved and quti and it reroleld a shop into a normal room lol what
iron chasm
Pawesome
tacit ember
i bought smth at the well and ir ealised that i coudl have afforded a boon so i quit to undo and it got rid of the shop lmao
iron chasm
The fates didn't you want you in that shop
dark idol
Yeah sure
mint coral
ngl idk what "pierces" is supposed to mean here since it's already aoe but you j...
Does it make dash strike hit through shields?
latent moon
Oh that would make sense
I've got no idea lmfao
I guess it would
I've never really payed attention to that tbh
mint coral
Ngl I never even noticed breaching cross mentioned piercing
I just clicked +900% breach dmg
latent moon
Same lmao
little lark
Shield pen becomes so useful on the minibosses
rustic vale
Shield pen becomes so useful on the minibosses
No minibosses hold shields thou
Do you mean armour shred?
little lark
Yeah!
Also
How do I stop being bad at the game?
Is there like
A potion I can drink?
rustic vale
A potion I can drink?
Ask about builds and stuff more here, and otherwise dash-strike more
stiff obsidian
A potion I can drink?
I drank a lot of coke
tacit ember
what is this melee sweap looking thing lol
when i special with rail
feels like sword standing attack
rustic vale
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1394734947180482570/1487480213230321744...
Weong game
tacit ember
?
fierce aurora
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1394734947180482570/1487480213230321744...
how can you send images
why i can't
tacit ember
skill issue
you get image perms after clearing 40 heat
hm
i already have both athena dds so really i could get rid of the dash
feel like realistically i get rid of hypersprint and keep the safety
its ap2 anyway so i dont think its realistic to try to rushed
wow targetting system slow effect actually makes the bull alto more manigable
i wonder if the targetting sytem effect applies to summon dmg
vast raven
why i can't
image links, can’t do the image directly, most easily done through dming a bot and copying the link that way
vast raven
i wonder if the targetting sytem effect applies to summon dmg
yes, as it’s a universal buff
tacit ember
nice
bruh lsot to heros lol
and was running out of time
if i got past heros tha wouldhave been a win
fierce aurora
image links, can’t do the image directly, most easily done through dming a bot a...
never knew that was even a thing
rustic vale
?
Oh wait nevermind
I immediately assumed it was H2 because what I saw looked so weird
tacit ember
time to watch cartoons
for a guy named invisible mark is strangely not very hard to see
tacit ember
omg no way cerby is in the most recent ep
i must have manifested it with my very original joke in hades chat
bruh his scene is so short
they are saving the budget to animate hair again
stiff obsidian
omg no way cerby is in the most recent ep
it was jarring
he was ugly
and got beat up easily
cerby no diffs mark ez
earnest crest
Does anyone have a good build for the shields hidden aspect
lavish sorrel
#h1-builds-and-combat pinned message, 2nd from the top of the list
tacit ember
it was jarring
tbh not alot happened that ep
and feels like they are really beating the dead horse of mark killing people
brisk trail
Beat the game on Hell Mode
The credit rolled
Took me 38 hours
stiff obsidian
tbh not alot happened that ep
i liked it
stiff obsidian
and feels like they are really beating the dead horse of mark killing people
invincible as a show is so mid its just carried by the memes and comic story
tacit ember
invincible as a show is so mid its just carried by the memes and comic story
invisible
i think its on the better side of quality for shows
its the only show that i am really following rn
999358269422321774 but link click season 3 is supposed to come out this year
stiff obsidian
999358269422321774
stiff obsidian
[999358269422321774](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1428476092636729465.webp?...
thats on my watchlist
tacit ember
999358269422321774
stiff obsidian
i should start it
stiff obsidian
i was watching hero x and saw it was made by the same guy
tacit ember
did you like hero x
stiff obsidian
yeah
tacit ember
my friend think its better than link click and i think link click is better
but to be hero x season 2 has the potential to be amazing
apperantly season 1 is supposed to be establishing the characters and world and season 2 is the real plot line
tacit ember
link click also has alot of those ahha moments where you realise something about details youve seen previously
imo its actually handled better in link click since it clues you in to the storyline
stiff obsidian
tacit ember
there is some of that in to be hero x but alot of it was kinda just oh that other character is doing this rn
tacit ember
yea it was boring in the middle
fr i watched it when around half the eps were out, the last one was the cyan girl i think and those eps werent that good so i dropped it
ended up watching the rest a while later, nice that it got good again
the last ep was a bit weak imo
ig its settup but nothing really happened
tacit ember
it was fun visualy but but had next to no story
- it didnt have a satisfying climax or anything
stiff obsidian
hm
tacit ember
felt more like a trailer for season 2 than an actual conclusion
stiff obsidian
the whole season was basically
the first two arcs were goated tho
nice and esoul
latent moon
tacit ember
https://tenor.com/view/queen-to-be-hero-x-queen-to-be-hero-x-awful-gif-absolute-...
oh bruh i just realised its that rich girl form to be hero x lol
her story line was also not amazing
im not very sympathetic to the whole trope of "everyone expecting so much from prodigy, what if it makes them feel bad :("
stiff obsidian
I like the character design
old bluff
<@&456908176877551658>
stiff obsidian
sorry edward
tacit ember
Oh I was thinking wow activity in so many channels, seems it was the bot
tacit ember
i had a good time today at the clinic incase you guys were wondering
pseudo juniper
i hate my luck bro
im tryna get hidden aspect for fists and i get butterfly ball 3 runs in a row
elfin cobalt
i'm sorry but i'm gonna refund the game
what is that
i know the devs are american but please, why do you do that ?
jagged hamlet
Oh yeah, that thing
elfin cobalt
Oh yeah, that thing
I refunded the game because I cannot tolerate the developers' lack of respect for the goddesses and gods of the Greek pantheon. Research the appearance of the goddesses and gods before making a game based on them.
frozen lion
He's probably mad they made Athena black
jagged hamlet
I originally thought SGG had given her a nice aged bronze look
tepid plover
"research the appearance of these fictional characters that nobody ever met"
tough ocean
I refunded the game because I cannot tolerate the developers' lack of respect fo...
The Gods don't actually have very set in stone appearances, since most discussion of them was done via word of mouth and by artists trying to convey a specific intention. Supergiant continues the tradition by making a statement with their designs
frozen lion
(he left the server already)
tough ocean
Sick
tough ocean
I think there is a little bit of truth to the idea that the world of hades is definitely not trying to be authentic, it's trying to be its own artistic interpretation
The disagreement comes when people start to say that's a problem ??
Because like... theseus and the minotaur's relationship is perfect, and a "more authentically motivated" team may never have had the guts to do it
frozen lion
Wait till he realizes that a good chunk of the named characters are queer
tepid plover
if you wanna complain about the second boss being a literal rock band sure, but oh no hermes is asian
jagged hamlet
Remember, kids: phenotype is literally everything
frozen lion
if you wanna complain about the second boss being a literal rock band sure, but ...
I thought he was white tbh
Maybe we should call it a truce and consider him biracial
(I say this as someone of this ethnicity btw)
tough ocean
I'm not really sure if what's going on with the Gods is "race", seems to me more like that's just how they want to present
)
tough ocean
Anyways clearly that one guy didn't consult the woke score for hades
tepid plover
xd
jagged hamlet
Anyway, I'm pretty sure the Greek Pantheon is all Italian
frozen lion
British*
That's what you get for playing without sound
jagged hamlet
I feel like half the goddesses would need to be much chubbier for authenticity's sake
tepid plover
now thats a complaint i can stand behind, where my chubbier dlc sgg
frozen lion
I feel like half the goddesses would need to be much chubbier for authenticity's...
Prior to Hades 2, enough of Aphrodite was either cropped or hidden by hair that she could've reasonably been chubby
tacit ember
Finished fencing
This guy kept pulling this one move on me bruh
Gonna go home and Google counter
hollow rivet
i am getting back into the franchise after a while and am forcing myself to 100% the first one before playing hades 2 but i have a question, what is everyones favourite weapon in the first game, mine is the spear
second is a crit bow build
frozen lion
i am getting back into the franchise after a while and am forcing myself to 100%...
Gilgamesh followed by Rama, Arthur, and Zeus I think
hollow rivet
weapon not aspect lol
mint coral
Bow/shield
vast raven
bow
lavish sorrel
rail? Largely undecided though; regardless of weapon, depending on the aspect, enjoyment can vary wildly.
clear star
what was the latest update on Steam about? just got it like 5 min ago
lavish sorrel
nothing. steam bugged out on your end
clear star
nothing. steam bugged out on your end
okok thx thx ❤️
granite musk
i am getting back into the franchise after a while and am forcing myself to 100%...
fists, especially Demeter fists with merciful end and additional dashes, I love my mob grinder
tacit ember
i am getting back into the franchise after a while and am forcing myself to 100%...
My favourite is getting railed
granite musk
My favourite is getting railed
I really want to, but I shouldn't
you know what? screw it
I vastly prefer when I'm the one railing the shades
ebon urchin
Hello, do you need to equip malphon in order to unlock Gilgamesh? Because I fought Asterion a lot of times now and I have yet to unlock this hidden aspect (last one)
Are there prerequisites? Like upgrading the other aspects?
rustic vale
Hello, do you need to equip malphon in order to unlock Gilgamesh? Because I foug...
Need 5 titans blood invested in the fists across all fists aspects, then Asterius needs to acknowledge you using the fists (while you’re using the fists) in his 1vs1 fight
then after that you can use any weapon to get the awakening phrase from his 1vs1 fight
ebon urchin
Ooh! That must be why it didn't unlock yet!
Thanks I'll put in some titan blood!
stiff obsidian
Wait a minute
tepid plover
Wait a minute
Its been over an hour what do I do now
stiff obsidian
I forgor
fierce aurora
how bad/good is 33 achievements (and 46 clears) for 55h of playtime?
tacit ember
i have 0 steam achievements in very arbitrarily many unknown hours 999358269422321774
tacit ember
i dont actually play hades, ive been larping this whole time
stiff obsidian
granite musk
i dont actually play hades, ive been larping this whole time
lmao
cyan ginkgo
how bad/good is 33 achievements (and 46 clears) for 55h of playtime?
i would say its fine
33 achievements is very good !!
little lark
Guys
I have a theory
Zagreus is actually Hades' son
Think about it
Hades calls him "Boy" all the time
Boy is often a term used to describe male individuals
And you know what sons are?
That's right, they're stars
You know where stars come from? Nebulae
You know where nebulae are found?
Space
Space is DARK
And all throughout your playthrough, you get DARKNESS
And who is the manifestation of DARKNESS?
That's right, Nyx
And Nyx and Hades are together
Nyx also has three letters
You know what else has three letters?
That's right, son
Therefore
Zagreus = Hades' son
Mic drop
misty prawn
Hey guys does vulkan api renders the game with more graphical detail or is it identical to direct x( sorry in advance if it's a stupid question)
jagged hamlet
Should be identical in practice
misty prawn
Should be identical in practice
I think that as well since it is just an api also vulkan is causing my game to stutter a lot.
tacit ember
Got an ecg today for fun
misty prawn
Those tests are really expensive over here to do it for fun😅
tacit ember
Those tests are really expensive over here to do it for fun😅
why is it even expensive bruh
americans getting scammed by late stage capitalism
misty prawn
I am not american dude
tacit ember
misty prawn
It's just the privately owned facilities charge more.
tacit ember
too bad you dont live in socialist utopia like me ig
misty prawn
The last guy who said that
tacit ember
only material that is consumed are disposable electrodes and printer paper
misty prawn
Got ignored
misty prawn
only material that is consumed are disposable electrodes and printer paper
Materials that can easily be obtained or made
tacit ember
misty prawn
But then there won't be commissions for the corrupt officials to suck the riches from
tacit ember
lol wait you are the guy who was calling me pathetic a while ago
didnt you leave the server
misty prawn
Oh my GOD!!!
misty prawn
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1394734947180482570/1489291154678747218...
Man I don't know how am I suppose to say this and I know you will not believe me but I am really really sorry🙏
But that was my little brother
I don't know he got hold of my account
But I am sorry for such behavior
tacit ember
💀
tacit ember
its not a big deal lol
misty prawn
Nah man those are really mean things to say
I can only imagine how bad you must have felt
tacit ember
💀
tacit ember
I can only imagine how bad you must have felt
you can make up for this by sending me a 10 buck amazon gift card
misty prawn
you can make up for this by sending me a 10 buck amazon gift card
Well I 10 bucks is a lot in my currency but i will get you compensated in one way or another mate
stiff obsidian
💀💀
misty prawn
Our economy is pretty messed up
misty prawn
first I am going to get a parent control app on my phone
misty prawn
I meant thjs
I can't say anything except that I am ashamed and I apologize sincerely on his behalf🥹 🙏
tacit ember
Well I 10 bucks is a lot in my currency but i will get you compensated in one wa...
too bad
10 buck is 10 buck