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ok those too
The other stuff sucks bc you don't have a build lmao
no build is what makes js3 cp2 dc2 so baddd
🤷♂️ idk what im doing lol
real
i got past tart anyway
There's a 32 heat guide pinned in #h1-high-heat-strategies
written by this guy ^
and nobody misses ap in hades 2 😊
bruh what 100% lasting consiquenses
ngl the only part of 32 heat pacts that really changes is whether your weapon can handle dc2
100% lasting consequences is stubborn defiance city
Keep reading
oooh
i have normal dd on lol
anyway i will see
so is stubborn defiance good for high heat specifically
Pretty much yeah
Bosses should be consistent enough where you don't need death defiances
until you can’t use it anymore
Normal rooms can be a pain so SD covers that
SD can technically heal.you more than DD over the course of the run
what wep
im gonna keep this seed
We do love weed
forced overtime is something you adjust to
gonna put athena attack on and see if that keeps me safe
it takes practice
but you learn it
It will take you time to learn unless you’re insane
But you never have to turn it off after that
If you want to speedrun it’s optimal
if you want to do high heat you learn it and you’re mostly fine
maybe i should do a run with overtime to learn it but im just slapping it on 32 for now lol
does artemis not have a revenge boon btw
nor can i think of one for possidon
Only 5 of the gods have revenge boons
arti has 5 revenge boons moment
athena / zeus / ares / demeter / aphrodite
pos doesn’t have one, arte doesn’t, dio doesn’t
anyway that traps pact is so unworth for the one heat bruh lol
Traps when you get hit for 150 damage from a pot in dad fight
forgot those were traps
more like you learn they’re traps the first time you get hit by them with hs
i learned this awhile ago when i was doing ff lol
weird
hm skull earing seems kinda really good with stuborn lol
oh wow touch of styx
ive litearlly never seen this item before lol
kinda seems not super usful?
you can stack a few of them
- charon keepsake has it last for 22 encounters
(patroclus's version is +50% instead)
2 normal touch of styx (or 1 + that athena boon) and patroclus gives you a 100% hp stubborn which it is fun
Yeah they go pretty well together if your build uses flat damage
Doesn't really get used until super high heats tho
oh yea i never gave him a necter
It's for a good handful of encounters and it's technically 20% bc of your initial HP bar and the one after
oh wow the kiss lasts multiple biomes
for somereason that didnt clock for me lol
also so far ive kinda forgotten about overtime lol
i am running spear though so lol
aaaaaaaa
should it take serrated point
seems crazy
thats such a joke bruh what
i haveone extra dash from hermes so i think i should be fine
i think it eats the achieles buff though lol
good regardless
i think
heros time
Wanna test that bc
omg the bull is so fast
maybe since ihave rapid im seeing wrong
oh maybe its thorwing out another jab after the dash attack so i misstok ig
flurry makes it so you do a standing strike immediately after your dash-strike
So you got thru your achilles buff 2x as fast
oof almost died to heros
but didnt
hehe
what keepsake shoudl i take for hades
im thinkign just achorn?
thats one of few i have maxxed so lol
i feel liek there should be boons that give you more dash length
since there are hammers that remove
wow even hades intro animation is faster lmao
bruh hes so fast
bruhyi ran out of time
burhbruhbruhbrbuhrburhbrubh
i had liek 2 min left going into hades
got him down to the last quarter healthbar
bruh
thsi game is so bad fr
tbf i dont have a plush
gonna try a possidon run
ooo possidon
gonna try to remember to gift this time lmao
poggers
omg i got possidon and athena in tart
both gods that i wanted
i also got dio though
i wanted aphro as my 4th
maybe iwill take aphros keepsake for asph
but like feels like that might croud the pool too much and i might be better off just not taking that
idk i think i will though
bruh i lost to than
lol i rerolled an arti boon and got both heart rend and deadly reversal offered
i think rend is better
noooo
died to the bull miniboss bruh
am i like stupid or smth
i havent unlocked the records room yet
how do i do that
GADEM
please dont try that pact lmfao
After another flashback sequence
time to hades
i have 5 blood rn
i could either max my paspect of pissidon or get my aspect of chilli to level 3
i think i will try for arti with aphro or athena or spear
i feel like i want to go with privilaged status instead of family favorat
looks ok to me
hm hammer first room again wow
i think extended jab sounds pretty decent
oo wow natural aphro spawn poggers
omg i got athena too
natural spawn
burh only had 16 seconds to spare in tart lol
lol actually kinda pro that i didnt upgrade stygian soul cuz i got that one demiter bon
lol died
feels liek i wasnt doing that much dmg
oh i didnt realise achilles was a cast weapon
ill try hunting blades ig
I’m trying to unlock companions and I’m not sure what I’m doing wrong. I’ve given a lot of nectar to a few folks: Achilles, patro, Meg, Shelly.
I can’t give out anymore nectar to them and still have no companions
Keep talking to them basically, a few (achilles/skelly) have specific quests to unlock the ability to gift ambrosia
Meg's quest is just keep talking too
bruh i died to hydra again lmao
Just got a run with almost the maximum speed I could get
50% movement speed from Hermes
And 36% speed and dodge bonus chance whenever using a call
I'M ZOOMING
THE GAME NOW FEEL SLOW TO ME

No hyper sprint 😔
Btw movement speed is multiplicative
Start buying them ichors
I’ve definitely got at least 70% faster than that (multiplicatively)
Is there anything that can be done to increase the likelihood of exclamation point rooms appearing?
Lambent Plume keepsake?
i don’t think so. but there is an ability in the mirror of night that increases your likelihood of gold laurel rooms, if you have that activated it would make encountering an exclamation point room less likely since they are blue laurel rooms
Wait
Are you gunning for npcs bond levels
That's why you asked this question?
Sisyphus, Eurydice, and Patroclus?
Yes
Patro I can’t give anymore nectar to but I’m told for the Achilles companion I gotta max out Sisyphus
Npc rooms aren't affected by dark foresight
That's the same skill they mentioned, and no it doesn't
Basically just pray for it
So what is the easiest first companion to unlock? I have no more nectar left to give to many
Meg/skelly
Shelly won’t take more nectar and his hearts are locked and I’ve already killed him with the sword so I’m not sure what else to do
Did it clear the prophecy?
wait fr? good to know
No
hyper sprint x 3 ichors
which would be 3.4 times movespeed (2*1.2^3)
compared to like 2.04x from your plume and greater haste
Skelly, pat, Achilles, and Meg are at the lock
Thanatos too
I meant specifically skelly's prophecy about killing him using maxed zag sword
Where do I view that?
Should be in your minor list of prophecies
Hi there
Just started the game, it finally clicked a few days ago and i'm having an absolute blast
The switch from Meg to Tisiphone was rough the first time tho
for 32 heat with the athena cast is it ok if i dont get the zeus duo
i dont have zeus keepsake to force him lol
i didnt realise this but athena cast is quite strong by default lol
It's not a requirement
It'll help in the heroes fight and room clearing but you can do without it
Depending on your wep and other buffs you might have
I assume you're running achilles
man crap i only have 30 seconds left for heros
i do have 100% healing form pertroclas though
noooo ran out of time lol
maybe ill just do some runs to get more blood and stuff bruh
thats so annoying
i think i will take off a level of deadline lol
in exchange for 3 levels of jury maybe lol
idk if this is kinda scuffed byt achilles with alot of athena
cast + attack + +10% hp from dd
and i figure i could try to get that duo with aphro
with exposed and shadowpressense seems like a good idea
ooo +1 stone from chaos
Hey so ive just finished the flash back section of the game that's earlier on (the one about my not being zags true mother) and I've got a few questions
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Is this the reason why zags trying to run away?
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Who else knows that nyx isnt zags true mother
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Does hades know that zag has found out that nyx isn't his mother?
Yeah.
A few members of the house iirc? At least Achilles (based on post first win dialogue)
Yeah
Wait actually I'm doubting myself if he was just trying to run from hades at first then learned about persephone
I think it was that?
Or just mixing it up with what he tells to the olympians
bruh i beat the bull and got theseus to second phase during the heros fight
then i crashed lmao
and i diedto bull
skull
oh yeah fo2 bull is a menace lol
even worse with em3
what wep is this, hera?
chillies spear
I see
heheh thunder phalanx in tart
damn this thing is not bad
best thing i think is that the stones seem to not get stuck super often lol
lightning phalanx my beloved
ooooo parting shot
theannoying thing about athena cast is that sometiems it just runs away to the edge of the gigantic room
bruh beat hydra on 1 hp
just wait until they accidentally fall into the water in dad's arena
💀
lol i remember the skulls falling behind that barrier while doing ff being pretty annoying
bruhbrhubruhbruhbr
i died to hades 2.2
bruh
i literally kept the protroclas kiss thingy had both duos i wanted and got that +50 backstab well item
just skillissued on hates lmao
hes so fast
bruh whatever ill do some runs with that liek fast pact to grind blood and to get used hades ig lol
inhind sight i was really rushing the hades fight for no reason
i had like 5 min i think lol
Yeah I think it is that cos zag and nyx don't bring it up before you find out she's not his mother
If the flashback is set before run 1 then I think it can be assumed that the motivation has stayed the same
bruh i was doing a run with overtime and lsot to hades 2.2 lol
literally only that and em3 on
so bad
i think for my next 32 attempt im gon try the dem cast
hm but the "problem" with that is i wouldnt get athena for free other good bons
erm what i just did the heros fight and i swear the bull wasnt even that fast
but i just chcked and i do have forced overtime on
strange
No Demeter/that one dio boon that slows?
no
Might be just getting used to it lol
its very strange cuz i swear he was the same speed i woudl expect without overtime
i dont think anything slows
Very niche but you aren't using the alt side of boiling blood right
Then yeah you have 0 slow effects lol
maybe it bugged
but idk
beat hades with over time heheh
only em3 and overtime tho
and i had vengful mood with athena revenge that did actually reflect a couple of hits for me lol
and athena call lmao
imagine the hunting blades build with vengful mood and athena revenge though
lol so much red
time to try em4 ig
what other gods do i go for while using zeuls attack
possidon duo?
Tidal dash always good, no need for the duo
lol i got epic attack and epic jolted
poggers?
lol tart 3.30
pretty fast for me
omg epic possidon dash
i also picked up an epic random assortments thingy
lol
jolted and possidon dash became red from the soup or whatever
erm poggers
🍲
6 50 past hydra
slower ely
13.3
bruh what
hades threw the spear lmao
the spera is kinda annoying lmao
its like the spin equivilant to the skull lmao
slower attack dif timing
whaat he sumons minibosses lmao
lol i didnt even get to the secodn phase
gonna cope by saying that erm fists i dont usally use + base level zag aspect
"Krrhh, hrraaaahhh ...!"
want to replay hades 1 after hades 2 but i have already completed it so knowing myself i know i will get bored quickly so i need some addition or a chagne
are there some staple, beloved mods to hades1 that add content? whether it be boons, bosses, idk
Have you tried playing some high heat or fresh file
As far as I know there aren't any well known content mods for hades
There's olympus extra as far as new gods
Apperantly there is a modding discord
There's also my fav mod
Sbeve
i am going to play from fresh file
and i have played high heat when it came out
sad
Fresh file as in 1st run win they mean
I hate traps so much
Did you turn on heightened security 
I'm just starting the game so idk what that is
Wait there's a way to make the spikes worse?
Yeah but is optional
More like a re-welcome. I played it before, reached a point, got tired of sucking, played Hades 2, could tolerate sucking there more and actually started to get good. Came back to Hades and I still suck
Fair enough
If you've played h2 I think you can guess how to make traps worse
(post 1st win)
Yeah pact of punishment
But traps already sucks
Nearly beat meg ugh
First win over meg and I go back to finish h2
I assume you know how the dash iframes work?
No...
Dashing makes you completely invincible until the very end of it but the iframes are cancelled upon using any move during the dash (dash strikes/special/you name it)
So if you gotta dodge, don't attack yourself
How do I do that
Just press the dash button without inputting an attack during it
Space to dash
Oh....
The dash frames are shorter than you might expect
lol got offered ares legendary for the first time
seems kinda cracked
that and hunting rifts form the same boon
but gonna chose that for fates
- prolly gon get duo later anyway
so like it’s only +2 for aid
it’s +1 for the regular cast and dash
and +0 for the bugowulf flare
lol well it felt pretty strong
maybe rifts are jsut strong by defualt
i did apply 2 curses and had chillies buff
its liek lv 4 or smth
also that hamer that gives crit and + dmg to the return special is so good on achilles it feels like
Blades are naturally strong and even at +1 per hit it’s still pretty fine
🤨
why so inquisitive
it’s just weird
to like
For it to seem that impactful
compared to every other part of your kit
🤷♂️
obviously compared to rifts its not significant
but it was conviniet for clearing tart and asph
oh i might have had braid of atlas for the hydra fight lol
explains why hydra melted
is it wroth ugprading black metal
prolly not since hunting
lol only 2 eye gusy coudl spawn during the butterfly mini
lmao ihappened to have dio and i just now got the arti dio duo
i have the ares dio one also
i didnt end up seeing hunting again lol
lmao im getting the dio athena dio
bro is most popular guy fr
ooh ig the pots being traps is the reason hades gets damaged by them
erm idk what was happening
hades was healing
2.2
Super dad thing
but like i was damaging him at the same rate
lol cerberus
the spear thorw mixup on that 3 hit combo he does is kinda annoying lol
bruh third pahse
i cant see lol
bruh
i died
lol
he was on a sliver bruh
atleast i can max out my aspect now
bruh i havent gotten the rapid hammer for so long
ooo i forgot about possidon
that arti and possidon duo pretty tasty if i somehow get it lol
I like to think so but it doesn’t have the same raw area of high voltage
the numbers are way lower so it’s not as large iirc
is the ares demiter duo worth stacking on hunting rifts build
they block each other
o
if you get one you can't get the other
is teh demiter dio good
ig you get to use demiter secondary boons on blade
but compared to hunting idk if that is worth lol
no
How do you unlock the/benefits package and extreme measures? I’ve beaten the game multiple times and I paid for extreme measures with the contractor, but I don’t see those options anywhere before starting a run
thats strange
benefits package is always unlocked as soon as you get the pact
Where do I view it?
extreme measures 1-3 needs you to have at least met all 3 furies
Yeah I’ve done that I just don’t see where to view these menus
start a run and look at the pact of punishment
by the time you can buy em4 from the contracter you should have seen the 3 guys
what is benefits packedge btw
i dont know the names
armored enemies get extra perks
i think it would be fun if achiless dash special woudl activate the dash boon
since im pretty sure it has i frames like dash
imagine if that arti arow boon procked on hit instead of on input
aaaaaaaaa
i got the arti legendary
for casts?
because last I checked it proks on hit for strike and special
but it has a 0.2s internal cooldown regardless of the # of hits
demeter dionysus duo? iirc it spawns directly underneath enemies without having to travel like a normal cast
dem and ares duo i was talking about
i love it
you can pop enemies so easily with that
if you add in zeus dio duo it gets even better
lol im gon get stygian shard to boost pot damage to hades
oh yeah funny thing about stygian shard
trap dmg is multiplicative
with 2 of them you deal like 6.5k with a pillar on his miniboss encounter
hunting blades is great don’t get me wrong but the trippy shot build is so funny
ice wine is cool for non hera/beo
yea and im saying it would be funny if it didnt do that
mainly just ares and dem would get big free damage
blade does liek 30 dmg per hit tops
ig
lmao having 6 casts is so funny
tbh the arti legendary isnt even all that
but funny still
It does like 20 damage at lvl 1 common and you’re already using achilles so it’s at least 40
Funny em4
i was thinking base dmg
but fair enough
bruh turning up brightness during third phase doesnt even help
jsut makes super contrasty
beat him
hehe
almsot threw lol
think i lost one em first and second phases
didnt in third hehe
Nodding along to ppl talking about the em4 fight because I haven’t used it in like 500 runs 
lol im getting the guanyu thing
Turn it on you coward /j
No reason for speedrunning nor the high heat levels I’ve been at
Do it anyways 
Nah
i think i want to gofor privillaged since im running ares anyway im sure i can get doom on smth and just another random curse
I assume this is achilles?
yup
whats wrong with legacy
Yeah swap priv at least
If this is your first rounds through 32 heat I'd keep legacy tbh
Non hunting blades slicing can suck
thats what im saying
With more experience I'd def swap to pride tho
You get better at forcing duos/get more benefit from good hermes/can deal with the situation even if you don't roll the duo
what is forcing duos?
are you like exausting a gods pool untill you get it
Knowing what to take to not open unnecessary duos/filling up your core slots/using rerolls well alongside rarity buffs like yarn or refreshing nectar
skull i think i just now talked to skelly for the first time
💀💀
wel he introduced himself and zag said the thing about him not being on payrole
i assume that is the first convo
knowing how to fill your cores and take status curses and take rarity boosting items to ensure you get duos way more consistently
hm i reloaded so now i never had the first convo
wonder if i keep giving him necter if zag magically knows his name
in the book hes already named skelly
i sitll dont have any plushies bruh
am i stupid
also ive not been prompted to get the ppls for the feast
bruh what i picked ares keepsake and possidon spawns talking about fish or whatever
why is he giving me the legendary bruh
as if im gonna fish
prolly sells for alot of gold tho
what even prompts this
i barily ever fish
lol what
i got a pom major reward room but the only boon i have is the fish one
oh it just gives gold
Homie has never gotten the scripted fishing event before
💔
🤷♂️
im on run 42 i think
Hi all new player here i bought the game for the greek mythology aspect but the gameplay is awesome!
lol i lost to fury
unlocked resoruces guy
skull
im too poor
skull i basically only take the blodo vile for tart and its lv 3 now
ooo natural arti
omg hunting pre fury
poggers
i didnt thorw the fury fight lol
lol i think im gon take possidon keepsake so i have 5 gods
the gameplay really shines! have fun playing!
bruh ive failed 2 troves this run
bruh
i died to the bull miniboss
im actually so skillissued
erm erm zag said "whats going on skelly"
as i like walked up to him
but im pretty sure i didnt have the convo where he introduces himself
whatever ig lol
why were you doing troves at 32
also do you know how to get the 2 extra defiances with stubborn + athena
i didnt know i wasnt supposed to be doingthem
use stubborn defiance in the room, pick up either of her DD refill boons
this will grant you one death defiance and stubborn regens next room
whaaaaaaaaat
and stubborn is always used first
wow thats gigagantic
so you can go in with 2 dds + stubborn to dad lol
there's like, 1 niche use for troves at high heat
if you ended the combat at really low hp
activate the trove, proc stubborn then leave
the doors don't close during troves
nope
you can even get the trove cleared and leave without picking up the stuff from it lol
yoo arti tart again
also niche stubborn stuff
if the reward is a centaur heart and you are lower than 30%, proc stubborn then pick up the hp
is more hp than heart then stubborn
bruh what natural athena spawn also lol
i already have arti but i think i should take her keepsake anyway to try to get the duo
could take early hourglass if it's good
❓
woudl i benifit form having hourglass in asph
i think i just take arti keepsake
bruh frick
i got a fountain room with athena in asph
and i rolled last stand
if i remembered to kill myself i could have gotten a free dd lol
extra touch of styx never bad, and can buy the well before elysium then switch keepsakes
oo
i got greater recall lol
convinient
yippie
hunting
we love arti
oo
i got heart rend lol
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
athena legnedary
pogging so hard rn
this is why we pick legacy
burubhuhbruhbruhbruh
i threw the run at heros
thats actuallyt eh most idiot thing bruh
what's your overall pact?
its the top one on the right in the document
but i took of one level from the time limit thing and put on 3 levels of more guys
bruh id ied in asph
last try today lol
That sounds rough lmao but if bosses are still the only issue then that kinda works I guess lmao
You could consider using some damage control
oh on this i was actually thinking of the eribus thingies lol
figured
also i used eribus to avoid dio solo door and got offered arti hehehe
genius level move
(i lost the gate)
it was like mega long bruh lol
bruh i died to the thwomp lol
miniboss
You did take js3
last run fr this time
idk what that is
"3 levels of more guys"
oooh
makesense yea
bruh i got a room with skulls with that stupid sheild generating perk lmao
skull
bruh
wow so wortht hat i spent last couple of hour doign this instead of going to sleep
skull
sobad
heyyyyyyyyyy i just got here
Hey, is rhere any trick for getting Flame Wheel Release to show up in wells? I’m aware that it only spawns in Elysium
Do you think we'll ever see a switch 2 patch for the original Hades?
Just bring rerolls and pray basically
If you really want to min max it ig
Turn off dark foresight if it is on and grab as many keys as possible
trying out 32 heat and its not going well
and your guess is it's probably something to do with 32 heat but what if I told you I am in elysium and I have not been offered my 4th god (unless you count demeter which I'm refusing)
and building into a duo boon and have not been offered that boon despite having the prerequisites
another day another needing that mod that disables gods from runs that I dont want and disables boons that I dont need because the game cant do it itself
ya and from what I can see, 32 heat's not impossible, its not hard. if I got hunting blades in tararus I could do it no problem, for sure.
I'm not even shetting on the game rn, its just so impossible to get the things you need on the runs you need it on
I feel like I have to wipe a bunch just to get a decent seed
just beat bull of minos miniboss, ares boon reward, still no hunting blades and now they're trying to give me aphrodite
you don't need any particular boon to beat 32 or even 40 for that matter on any aspect. if you're struggling, chances are at least one of your build-choices or your pact need improving, or you don't understand the aspect you are playing well enough, or you are facetanking too much.
no flame
next room is a 2 god room, end up getting the attack, yay, but instead of getting the duo, I get the legendary. I'm not even eligable for any other duos.
I remember when I first started playing this game, getting through theseus and asterius was an impossible feat for me
that was on 0 heat, now I'm on 32, and while I feel the same way, its not cause I'm bad, but because I got nothing
funny how the turns have tabled
there are helper-guides pinned #h1-high-heat-strategies if that's what you're looking for. 32 heat allows for a lot of random nonsense, with some options obviously being easier to play than others.
I see what you're saying, and its honestly a combination of how I intentionally ramped up the mob difficulty because I knew that hunting blades could handle it
but I don't have that boon
did you seriously do HL5 JS3 CP2 BP2
I don't know some of those acronyms, and what I do know I don't know what that relates to on the setting
lemme guess, wrong choices?
timer is free heat?
it's because of this type of pact that people think 32 is absolute hell. I'll say that much.
ya. if your average clear time is just over 36 minutes, its not, since thats 9 minutes x4
*you can win with basically anything at 32, but some options are significantly harder than others
brother, maybe, just maybe, your average runtime is 36 minutes because you're running DC2 JS3 CP2
oh no, 36 on 0 heat
or, 1-10
its a big improvement, they used to take almost an hour
is tidal dash food for sword of nemesis
should I sell for 150, im in elysium, have artemis attack demeter special, ares cast
yes! Poseidon dash is one of the two almost universally strong dashes in the game (Divine Dash for safety, Tidal Dash + applicable tier-2 boons for damage).
wait why is it good tho
it just knocks them away
I only beat the game once btw
doing heat 1
to shoves enemies into walls, other enemies, and disrupts doomstone
its probably the easiest to use for ad clear
doomstone?
ad clear?
doomstone is the laser miniboss in tartarus
think of it like this:
almost all enemies can be knocked back, though some take more knockback than others. when an enemy gets knocked into a wall, that's a wallslam. it does decent damage. when an enemy gets knocked into another enemy, that's a bodyslam, which is like a wallslam but a fair bit stronger. the more speed the enemy had before the collision, the usually more damage it will take and deal from collisions with other objects.
every non-asphodel chamber has walls. if you can force enemies (preferably multiple at once even for more collisions) into these walls and corners to get more damage than expected.
oh yea that guy
VERY annoying if u dont have aoe
I didnt know it factors in velocity
do I get shado slash
supernova or hoarding slash from hammer
does shadow slash effect dash strike
ohh I see
very informative
you're gonna have to ask him, idk what those do (or weapen those are for)
thank you very much
shadow slash is 200% extra dmg when striking from behind
super nova is special gets 20% more aoe
hoarding slash is bonus damage equal to 5% of ur coins
hoarding slash is bad because it does not synergize with your boons and you want to spend for boons
alr, I think jst supernova then?
I have demeter speical
yeah super nova sounds reasonable to me
shadow slash does not apply to dash strike
alr sure
@west quarry (for completeness)
the main tier 2 boons you're looking to get for Poseidon dash are Razor Shoals and Breaking Wave.
shoals is strong against chambers with enemies that move around a lot (as is often the case in Asphodel and Elysium), while Breaking Wave lets you demolish any chamber by making any enemy with a lot of health collide with another enemy or wall. Breaking Wave works as well as it does in Tartarus and Styx because the chambers are so small, letting enemies bounce from wall to wall.
I will never disrespect poseidon dash again 🫡
thanks
I never got razor shoals tho
jus got razor shoals as I say this
It’s wholy dependent on velocity
whats the best special for sword, I got the hammer where the special hits twice
I have artemis attack
athena special deflects right
It’s a large amount of raw damage on each dash aside from wallslams. It starts at 35-49 depending on rarity and immediately gets a +21 from first pom and you should be dashing rather often so you can easily pump out a ton of high base damage dashes
double nova is generally not considered a particularly strong sword hammer, but if you were to want something on there you'd probably be looking for anything that deals %-damage, yeah. aphrodite's does the most damage, athena's is a bit weaker but makes the move more forgiving to use (deflects good)
artemis strike also means aphro gives heart rend while athena gives deadly reversal
good side damage I see
I always thought the number was low and never went for it tho
Good enough that sword starts with it over a strike boon for speedrunning
damn
yeah since you can deflect from up close right
can you deflect melee attacks?
~yes
you can deflect from anywhere, as long as the thing being deflected overlaps the deflect hitbox. this includes projectiles, most melee attacks, and even some AoE attacks.
(as long as the thing to be deflected can be deflected, of course)
fr??
The only exceptions are like ground or above traps/beams no
I mean just hit a few poms and fix it like
even just the first 1-2 poms sky rockets your damage then diminishing pom values hits
alr
Hi, does only one Vengeance boon trigger at a time? I had Curse of Vengeance (Doom) and Heaven's Vengeance (lightning), but when I got hit 75% of the time the enemy got struck by lightning and occasionally Doom was triggered. Definitely not both at once. (if so, I'll avoid doubling up in the future)
Curse of vengeance only triggers in an aoe around you fwiw
They do trigger at the same time
If you get hit a whole ton at once you can watch a ton of little red auras pop out
They were the last two boons I got (from the final area), so I didn't get too much time with them. Thanks for this info! (seems like it might be OK to pick multiple if you don't particularly need the other boons being offered)
This might be the missing piece - thanks for pointing this out.
those 2 specifically are pretty strong
My friend just beat his first run and the first heat challenge he enabled is increased trap damage. Poor guy doesn't know what's coming
He just hit Asphodel...
Eh, it’s not that bad as long as you keep an eye out for the traps
Yeah but why gamble on not getting 1 shot by a funny dad pot tho
There are better 1 heat stuff 😭
idea: merciful end build with curse of vengeance divine dash and quick recovery
am i cooking
I mean it’s merciful end at base so it’s going to be fine
no but you dont attack
The harder part is getting CoV and Holy Shield in proper order for the funny
You can do a revenge build if you want to afk
time to hader
lol i picked hades keep sake since i just got it for fun and i got both athena and zeus in tart so ig im going for athena cast
hades call is so lame bruh
is it just liek athena call or whatever
i googled seems the call gives a damage boost
bruh crap
i wasnt payign attention so i wanted to like reset up with stuborn but just threw the run lmao
im gon try running athena again ig
how do i unlock the heart with dusa
i dont have the option to give her ambrosia
i assume the chaos buff on casts is applied to whatever damage number it has on the current level instead of lv 1
lol than encounter had 55 enemies
i got 49
lmao i got the athena aphro duo and aphro zeus dio in asph
not the athena zeus one though lol
not been chosing boons to force that duo
athena cast lokey feels better to play with than hunting rifts lol
dont have the duo still
the base cast is just so cracked
o got the duo in styx lol
hehe
won
got one free athena dd but didnt end up using it
kinda funny
vital part of the build
i tried to see if i could get athena call on styx but didnt
how do i unlock the party thing bruh
isnt there a thing where you go around invting the gods to come eat
Do you have the queen's plan prophecy already?
is hades better on controller or mouse and keyboard?
im a keyboard fan
ive barily ever played anything with a controller but i feel like keyboard just has alot more stability + more buttons
yeah just wondering, i know some games feel better on controler, like 2d fighting games, games like eldin ring
some fighting game controllers are very keyboard like
yeah
all gods take 6 nectar before reaching a heart lock, do their favor and then gift ambrosia and get their bond
i think ppl like them mostly for traditional fighting games and i think some do for smash and stuff
once you have 6 bonds you can proceed
(and demeter counts as 1 of the 6 when she reaches the lock, her favor is the epilogue itself)
for instance you can pivot back and forth by just inputting the oposite direction instead of moving the stick form one direction to the other
bruh that is gonna take forever
I prefer controller
for most stuff is just, pick what's more comfortable for you
can you move and dash in more angles with controller?
ye
if you like playing zeus shield/hestia/hidden rail there's def a better upside to kbm tho
especially the latter
i just unlocked beo
are you supposed to load the casts after you let go of attack during the charge
or do you do it when you are running around
I do the latter, is basically a per run thing/practice but you start remembering how many casts you need per enemy
im playing around with skelly and i find that if i start charging asap and release im able to pick up the stones form the previous rush and load them during the next rush lol
oh yeah generally you never load all 3/whatever your max is
so you can do that rhythm of 2-1
also keeps the dmg bonus on rushes
extremely personal preference, both have their pros and cons and can do things the other can't
but there are multiple top players that use kbm or controller, there isn't necessarily a "best" imo
pick one and stick with it basically
Desperately need a mashup of Last Words and For Whom the Knell Tolls from Crypt of the Necrodancer. That would go so crazy hard
The game tells you as much itself
Yep
Is it me or is Than's theme during his encounters kinda sounds like a gloomier version of Good Riddance ?
I'm 50/50 depending on weapon/aspect lol
How people beat this game with the bow is beyond me.
I’ve beaten it with every weapon except the bow and my highest heat is 5 (fists).
I do a little better with the second aspect but I just don’t get any enjoyment playing with the bow and I struggle with viable builds
basically dash strike only with the bow
charges faster
put aphrodite or artemis for the attack
get tidal dash
twin shot, triple shot hammer
and perfect or point blank
flurry is really good
true ending obtained!! took me 21 runs, i think that's pretty good
mandatory linking of this pure gold #h1-discussion message
I’ve seen some different things online and got curious— which edition of the vinyl soundtrack was more limited? The black smoke or red smoke version? I’m looking to possibly purchase either or but I’ve found both for pretty reasonable prices, figured I might as well go with the more “rare” one
I beat it first time today, with the bow so im suprised that for you its the most difficult
I’m gonna try the shield next
i mean everyone's different lmao
bow tends to be a pretty common dislike but that's generally bc people don't dash strike with it
Yeah it felt natural to me, felt like kiting with kalista from LoL lmao
I know some people like the fists too and thats the most difficult for me
base bow with no hammers i think does infact feel pretty bad
atleast i cant get much mileage from it
Honestly it is
You’re working at like 50% if not worse effectiveness without access to any hammers
while bow has a load of really impactful hammers, if you’re playing without any of them your base damage output is significantly lowered and you miss out on a heap of extra additive damage
maybe people try and drop bow early without being familiar with its hammers since its the first unlockable weapon
Maybe? partially anyhow
wrapping your head around bow dash-striking with it seems to be a pretty decent hurdle as well
I haven’t really seen too many people who still have complaints with bow after learning to dash-strike and having a handle on which hammers to aim for aside from people who just don’t like the charge-up aspect of it flat out
i think i might fall into the camp of not liking charg up
if you have the explosion and tripple hammer you can kinda run up and blast enemies, thats kinda fun
but even then to me bow feels sorta unsatisfying
I struggled with some aspects of the bow, but found it super easy to use with the aspect of Chiron.
Add some extra special arrows with hammer, get something stackable on the special like frost or maybe even hangover with a duo boon with Aphrodite or Artemis, and you're set
how do i unlock the rest of the weapons?
Unlock all available to you at the moment > do a run > next weapon will show up
ok thanks
😭 its 4 am and ive not finished my anki bruh
I beated Hades for the first time :)
I was fighting hades
With his enchantments
Dude spawned 2 SNEAKS and a GIANT BUTTERFLY BALL
Wtf
extreme measures super dad moment
I was trying to figure out how to max out my relationship with a few different gods to progress the story, but I’ve had a roadblock.
None of their hearts have locks, but when I go to select their powers I don’t have the option to give them nectar anymore. Do I need to just keep interacting and keep selecting them until I have the option to give them nectar again?
Hermes, aphro, dio, Artemis, ares are the ones I’m working
you gift them ambrosia instead
Yeah I don’t have that option it’s odd
do you have ambrosia?
I can only select their boons
Yes plenty
So like Hermes, they won’t let me gift him anymore and I’ve talked to him with the plume equipped
Looks like I haven’t completed aphro’s requirements yet
Guys how does one achieve the gift of song fated list thing?
Also is there any purpose in gifting boldy?
Pretty sure he gives you a boon or smth
He gives a boon that can either be +1-10% strike damage, special damage, cast damage, damage reduction, obol gain, or movespeed, of +2% ambiguity bonus
This is the one where you play the lyre 210 times and talk to orpheus isn’t i
Oh alr ty
Yeah I kinda just spammed it out of not knowing so I got it lol ty
Frfr
Tbh the game feels too easy now
So im cranking up that heat
I do atleast 16 heat
skull
em 4 diolauge is kinda funny
they talk about hades being dramatically stronger while all he does is do an extra sweep and throw his spear
i think third phase is the same as 2.2 only with fog
the miniboss summons are brutal
also the constant vase spawning isn't a joke
yeah i agree
i suck at movement so the extra hazards around hades is definitely a noticeable layer harder for me to this day
"skill issue" yes but its also a point i suppose
i didnt notice there being more pots
Try it on higher heats
For 4 heat you can just take other things that don't have a chance to kill your run at the end
Either way it's a whole extra phase and a lot more hp you have to burn through, not to mention you're probably on SD and have to pray you don't get bad summons like butterfly ball
i ment from a lore perspective rather than gameplay
they talk about how em4 is the level hades was at when he could take down titans and what not
Hello guys, which events have 100% chance to spawn?
first run athena, second run zeus, third run hammer
4th run you unlock call i think
I mean, in regular game after beating the game a few times
clear 10 you get to skip the hades fight
a major waste of time is what he becomes due to the extra hp, too
depends. calls unlock when one has met all non-demeter olympians, which can happen at any point
as seen in the "seeded loyalty card" speedrun category extension
that reminds me that i havent beaten charon in this savefile yet
charon is so much harder than the zigzagoon fight in hades 2 bruh
part of it might be that there are many more ranged options in 2
I already beat the game, saw the end credits. I need to understand which specific events like Thanatos encounter, Bull miniboss, rooms like Eurydice and fountain rooms have 100% chance to spawn during the run
woah there buddy maybe spoiler mark that 🈷️
None of those are guaranteed in a run lol
Bull miniboss is just a 50/50 in Elysium
Any story room (Sisyphus, Eurydice, Patroclus) is just rng
Thanatos also just rng
Fountains rng
There's nothing guaranteed in a run after like the first 4/5 and Poseidon legendary when you unlock the fishing rod
And Demeter after reaching the surface
I know all that. The question is: is there any events aside the bosses that are 100% spawn? Is fishing spots in the run guaranteed at least ones?
minibosses. and midshop............. usually. (midshop has some restrictions on the chambers it can appear after. if enough of those conditions are met during a biome, the shop can sometimes just not appear. it's pretty rare to miss midshop though.)
no, but given the amount of chambers where a fishing point can appear, you're bound to see at least one in every biome. note that picking up the second poseidon legendary will remove the chamber-cooldown between two fishing points.
note that from a new save file only, the bombers miniboss is the only one that exists in tartarus for a while (until the player gets far enough into the game). you could say that's the truly guaranteed instance of a miniboss in all of hades the videogame.
how do u get better with the fists
bcuz i ussually go for the spear but i kinda always go for the same build all the time and it boring
lol just did a beo run
only turned em 4 on
maybe im just bad but didnt really feel that strong
i just kinda did braindead game play
charge when bosses attacking and release on window lol
idk lol i feel like lv 6 epic is pretty high lv
lol what
i just had encounter with meg in zags room and she said smth about retreaving things
why would she have things in zags room bruh
I beat <Redacted> for the first time
try using poseidon cast and getting mirage shot
mirage shot is bugged on beowulf to have 100% instead of 30%
passion flare with priv status is still considered a lot of damage tho
who is redacted
How far into the game are you
I just beat the game for the 3rd time rn
I unlocked the last 2 mirror of night talents which ones do I get
Oh
gods pride
gods legacy
fated persuasion
fated authority
<Redacted> is ||Hades||
oh alr, I was confused why in the security log it said slain by redacted before
which ones are better
whichever gives more epic boons and whichever lets you reroll boon choices
so gods pride and fated persuasion?
isnt legendary or duo boons better tho
duos are already easy enough to get and most legendaries are worthless
HOLY SH- GUACAMOLE ZAGREUS IS GONNA BE IN INDIE CROSS
eh
legendaries are too difficult to get bc of prereqs, and most of the time you dont need a duo for a good build
epic hermes and chaos is much more worthwhile
and some god boons really like rarity compared to other boons
i'm listening to gluck's orfeo ed euridice right now
is this opera why orpheus has his countertenor voice?
Just bested hard mode hades hell yeahhhh
And by hell yeah i mean hellmode
17 heat
Yk stage 3
Gg
Heck mode
i think i can't use it properly lmao, i'm playing n keyboard and it's a ltrl hell
ah I can understand kbm being far more difficulty to aim with
than controller
Especially if you’re trying to play it better, since you’re firing off more shots per second and moving way more if you’re constantly dash-striking
yes it's ltrl impossible for me to use the bow, i can barely make it to Elysium and i'm like 90ish runs in so far😓
What is (in your opinion) the worst/best boss in hades 2
Oh dang my bad I mistook one for the other 💀
what are y'alls favorite boons?

Ofc
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can't wait for someone nicknamed "Aspect of Beowulf" to eventually come in and post emojis of the three important flood beo boons
nice FUNNYORANGEBOON
mfw front facing than
if any developer see this there is any chance that the god of blood achievement will be added in steam since the god of nightmares achievement in hades 2 is on steam


