#h1-discussion

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latent moon
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No build control and no defiance

cedar crypt
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ok those too

latent moon
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The other stuff sucks bc you don't have a build lmao

rustic vale
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no build is what makes js3 cp2 dc2 so baddd

tacit ember
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🤷‍♂️ idk what im doing lol

rustic vale
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real

tacit ember
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i got past tart anyway

rustic vale
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You got this twin

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what weapon is this btw

tacit ember
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give me some pointers for what pacts to chose

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achilles

latent moon
rustic vale
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written by this guy ^

cedar crypt
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and nobody misses ap in hades 2 😊

tacit ember
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bruh what 100% lasting consiquenses

rustic vale
# tacit ember achilles

ngl the only part of 32 heat pacts that really changes is whether your weapon can handle dc2

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100% lasting consequences is stubborn defiance city

latent moon
tacit ember
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i have normal dd on lol

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anyway i will see

cedar crypt
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so is stubborn defiance good for high heat specifically

latent moon
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Pretty much yeah

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Bosses should be consistent enough where you don't need death defiances

rustic vale
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until you can’t use it anymore

latent moon
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Normal rooms can be a pain so SD covers that

tacit ember
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lmao lsot 2 dd to the start of asph

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first encounter infact

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im gon go redo my pact

rustic vale
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worst part about SD is going to reset your sd and then you just die

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in asphodel

latent moon
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SD can technically heal.you more than DD over the course of the run

tacit ember
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rapid strike hammer first room this run

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so

rustic vale
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what wep

tacit ember
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im gonna keep this seed

latent moon
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We do love weed

tacit ember
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maybe i will put on forced overtime

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its 6 whole heat bruh

rustic vale
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forced overtime is something you adjust to

tacit ember
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gonna put athena attack on and see if that keeps me safe

rustic vale
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it takes practice

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but you learn it

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It will take you time to learn unless you’re insane

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But you never have to turn it off after that

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If you want to speedrun it’s optimal

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if you want to do high heat you learn it and you’re mostly fine

tacit ember
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maybe i should do a run with overtime to learn it but im just slapping it on 32 for now lol

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does artemis not have a revenge boon btw

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nor can i think of one for possidon

rustic vale
tacit ember
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arti has 5 revenge boons moment

rustic vale
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athena / zeus / ares / demeter / aphrodite

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pos doesn’t have one, arte doesn’t, dio doesn’t

tacit ember
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anyway that traps pact is so unworth for the one heat bruh lol

rustic vale
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Traps when you get hit for 150 damage from a pot in dad fight

tacit ember
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forgot those were traps

rustic vale
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more like you learn they’re traps the first time you get hit by them with hs

tacit ember
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i learned this awhile ago when i was doing ff lol

rustic vale
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weird

tacit ember
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hm skull earing seems kinda really good with stuborn lol

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oh wow touch of styx

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ive litearlly never seen this item before lol

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kinda seems not super usful?

mint coral
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you can stack a few of them

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  • charon keepsake has it last for 22 encounters
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(patroclus's version is +50% instead)

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2 normal touch of styx (or 1 + that athena boon) and patroclus gives you a 100% hp stubborn which it is fun

latent moon
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Doesn't really get used until super high heats tho

tacit ember
mint coral
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his keepsake is eh

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I meant what he offers instead of refill all dds

latent moon
tacit ember
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oh wow the kiss lasts multiple biomes

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for somereason that didnt clock for me lol

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also so far ive kinda forgotten about overtime lol

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i am running spear though so lol

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aaaaaaaa

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should it take serrated point

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seems crazy

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thats such a joke bruh what

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i haveone extra dash from hermes so i think i should be fine

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i think it eats the achieles buff though lol

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good regardless

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i think

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heros time

rustic vale
tacit ember
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omg the bull is so fast

rustic vale
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I’m pretty sure it should work for 4 full dash strikes

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w/ serrated

tacit ember
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maybe since ihave rapid im seeing wrong

rustic vale
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What you have flurry and serrated?

tacit ember
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oh maybe its thorwing out another jab after the dash attack so i misstok ig

rustic vale
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flurry makes it so you do a standing strike immediately after your dash-strike

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So you got thru your achilles buff 2x as fast

tacit ember
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oof almost died to heros

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but didnt

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hehe

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what keepsake shoudl i take for hades

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im thinkign just achorn?

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thats one of few i have maxxed so lol

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i feel liek there should be boons that give you more dash length

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since there are hammers that remove

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wow even hades intro animation is faster lmao

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bruh hes so fast

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bruhyi ran out of time

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burhbruhbruhbrbuhrburhbrubh

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i had liek 2 min left going into hades

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got him down to the last quarter healthbar

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bruh

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thsi game is so bad fr

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tbf i dont have a plush

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gonna try a possidon run

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ooo possidon

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gonna try to remember to gift this time lmao

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poggers

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omg i got possidon and athena in tart

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both gods that i wanted

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i also got dio though

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i wanted aphro as my 4th

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maybe iwill take aphros keepsake for asph

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but like feels like that might croud the pool too much and i might be better off just not taking that

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idk i think i will though

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bruh i lost to than

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lol i rerolled an arti boon and got both heart rend and deadly reversal offered

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i think rend is better

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noooo

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died to the bull miniboss bruh

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am i like stupid or smth

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i havent unlocked the records room yet

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how do i do that

woeful oak
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GADEM

latent moon
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please dont try that pact lmfao

primal compass
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I did it, I gifted the final nectar

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Ambrosia farming here I come

mint coral
tacit ember
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time to hades

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i have 5 blood rn

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i could either max my paspect of pissidon or get my aspect of chilli to level 3

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i think i will try for arti with aphro or athena or spear

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i feel like i want to go with privilaged status instead of family favorat

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looks ok to me

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hm hammer first room again wow

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i think extended jab sounds pretty decent

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oo wow natural aphro spawn poggers

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omg i got athena too

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natural spawn

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burh only had 16 seconds to spare in tart lol

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lol actually kinda pro that i didnt upgrade stygian soul cuz i got that one demiter bon

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lol died

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feels liek i wasnt doing that much dmg

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oh i didnt realise achilles was a cast weapon

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ill try hunting blades ig

indigo grove
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I’m trying to unlock companions and I’m not sure what I’m doing wrong. I’ve given a lot of nectar to a few folks: Achilles, patro, Meg, Shelly.

I can’t give out anymore nectar to them and still have no companions

tacit ember
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OMG HUNTING IN TART

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bruh i died to hydra

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gon just try the same thign agian

mint coral
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Meg's quest is just keep talking too

tacit ember
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bruh i died to hydra again lmao

noble agate
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Just got a run with almost the maximum speed I could get

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50% movement speed from Hermes

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And 36% speed and dodge bonus chance whenever using a call

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I'M ZOOMING

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THE GAME NOW FEEL SLOW TO ME

mint coral
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Btw movement speed is multiplicative

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Start buying them ichors

rustic vale
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I’ve definitely got at least 70% faster than that (multiplicatively)

indigo grove
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Is there anything that can be done to increase the likelihood of exclamation point rooms appearing?

noble agate
gilded leaf
indigo grove
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Roger

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I wonder if the mirror bonus for additional gods and juice also impacts this

noble agate
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Wait

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Are you gunning for npcs bond levels

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That's why you asked this question?

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Sisyphus, Eurydice, and Patroclus?

indigo grove
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Yes

Patro I can’t give anymore nectar to but I’m told for the Achilles companion I gotta max out Sisyphus

mint coral
mint coral
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Basically just pray for it

indigo grove
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So what is the easiest first companion to unlock? I have no more nectar left to give to many

mint coral
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Meg/skelly

indigo grove
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Shelly won’t take more nectar and his hearts are locked and I’ve already killed him with the sword so I’m not sure what else to do

mint coral
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Did it clear the prophecy?

gilded leaf
rustic vale
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hyper sprint x 3 ichors

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which would be 3.4 times movespeed (2*1.2^3)

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compared to like 2.04x from your plume and greater haste

indigo grove
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Thanatos too

mint coral
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I meant specifically skelly's prophecy about killing him using maxed zag sword

indigo grove
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Where do I view that?

mint coral
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Should be in your minor list of prophecies

indigo grove
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Ok it’s not complete

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Need to max out sword first aspect

crimson ibex
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Hi there

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Just started the game, it finally clicked a few days ago and i'm having an absolute blast

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The switch from Meg to Tisiphone was rough the first time tho

tacit ember
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for 32 heat with the athena cast is it ok if i dont get the zeus duo

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i dont have zeus keepsake to force him lol

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i didnt realise this but athena cast is quite strong by default lol

gray apex
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It's not a requirement

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It'll help in the heroes fight and room clearing but you can do without it

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Depending on your wep and other buffs you might have

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I assume you're running achilles

tacit ember
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man crap i only have 30 seconds left for heros

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i do have 100% healing form pertroclas though

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noooo ran out of time lol

tacit ember
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maybe ill just do some runs to get more blood and stuff bruh

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thats so annoying

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i think i will take off a level of deadline lol

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in exchange for 3 levels of jury maybe lol

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idk if this is kinda scuffed byt achilles with alot of athena

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cast + attack + +10% hp from dd

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and i figure i could try to get that duo with aphro

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with exposed and shadowpressense seems like a good idea

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ooo +1 stone from chaos

umbral geode
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Hey so ive just finished the flash back section of the game that's earlier on (the one about my not being zags true mother) and I've got a few questions

  1. Is this the reason why zags trying to run away?

  2. Who else knows that nyx isnt zags true mother

  3. Does hades know that zag has found out that nyx isn't his mother?

mint coral
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Wait actually I'm doubting myself if he was just trying to run from hades at first then learned about persephone

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I think it was that?

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Or just mixing it up with what he tells to the olympians

tacit ember
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noooo

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i died lol

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got the duo too

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bruh

tacit ember
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bruh i keep dying to the bull

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40% speed makes the charge so fast lol

tacit ember
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bruh i beat the bull and got theseus to second phase during the heros fight

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then i crashed lmao

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and i diedto bull

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skull

mint coral
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even worse with em3

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what wep is this, hera?

tacit ember
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chillies spear

mint coral
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I see

tacit ember
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bruh i lost to than lol

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bruh died to hydra

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serrated seems kidna not wroth taking

mint coral
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serrated stinky

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I don't play spear unmodded for a reason lol

tacit ember
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heheh thunder phalanx in tart

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damn this thing is not bad

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best thing i think is that the stones seem to not get stuck super often lol

mint coral
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lightning phalanx my beloved

tacit ember
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ooooo parting shot

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theannoying thing about athena cast is that sometiems it just runs away to the edge of the gigantic room

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bruh beat hydra on 1 hp

mint coral
tacit ember
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💀

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lol i remember the skulls falling behind that barrier while doing ff being pretty annoying

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bruhbrhubruhbruhbr

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i died to hades 2.2

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bruh

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i literally kept the protroclas kiss thingy had both duos i wanted and got that +50 backstab well item

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just skillissued on hates lmao

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hes so fast

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bruh whatever ill do some runs with that liek fast pact to grind blood and to get used hades ig lol

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inhind sight i was really rushing the hades fight for no reason

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i had like 5 min i think lol

umbral geode
tacit ember
tacit ember
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there should be a button to reset the pact

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and you should be able to save pacts

tacit ember
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bruh i was doing a run with overtime and lsot to hades 2.2 lol

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literally only that and em3 on

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so bad

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i think for my next 32 attempt im gon try the dem cast

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hm but the "problem" with that is i wouldnt get athena for free other good bons

tacit ember
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erm what i just did the heros fight and i swear the bull wasnt even that fast

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but i just chcked and i do have forced overtime on

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strange

mint coral
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No Demeter/that one dio boon that slows?

tacit ember
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no

mint coral
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Might be just getting used to it lol

mint coral
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Very niche but you aren't using the alt side of boiling blood right

tacit ember
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no

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lol

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thats kinda an idea actually lmao

mint coral
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Then yeah you have 0 slow effects lol

tacit ember
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maybe it bugged

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but idk

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beat hades with over time heheh

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only em3 and overtime tho

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and i had vengful mood with athena revenge that did actually reflect a couple of hits for me lol

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and athena call lmao

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imagine the hunting blades build with vengful mood and athena revenge though

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lol so much red

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time to try em4 ig

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what other gods do i go for while using zeuls attack

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possidon duo?

mint coral
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Tidal dash always good, no need for the duo

tacit ember
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lol i got epic attack and epic jolted

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poggers?

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lol tart 3.30

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pretty fast for me

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omg epic possidon dash

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i also picked up an epic random assortments thingy

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lol

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jolted and possidon dash became red from the soup or whatever

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erm poggers

gilded leaf
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🍲

tacit ember
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6 50 past hydra

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slower ely

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13.3

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bruh what

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hades threw the spear lmao

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the spera is kinda annoying lmao

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its like the spin equivilant to the skull lmao

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slower attack dif timing

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whaat he sumons minibosses lmao

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lol i didnt even get to the secodn phase

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gonna cope by saying that erm fists i dont usally use + base level zag aspect

dusk geode
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"Krrhh, hrraaaahhh ...!"

obtuse pelican
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want to replay hades 1 after hades 2 but i have already completed it so knowing myself i know i will get bored quickly so i need some addition or a chagne

are there some staple, beloved mods to hades1 that add content? whether it be boons, bosses, idk

tacit ember
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As far as I know there aren't any well known content mods for hades

mint coral
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There's olympus extra as far as new gods

tacit ember
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Apperantly there is a modding discord

mint coral
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There's also my fav mod

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Sbeve

obtuse pelican
mint coral
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Fresh file as in 1st run win they mean

stray minnow
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I hate traps so much

mint coral
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Did you turn on heightened security tizomg

stray minnow
mint coral
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Oops

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Don't worry about it dusa

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Also welcome to the game

stray minnow
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Wait there's a way to make the spikes worse?

mint coral
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Yeah but is optional

stray minnow
# mint coral Also welcome to the game

More like a re-welcome. I played it before, reached a point, got tired of sucking, played Hades 2, could tolerate sucking there more and actually started to get good. Came back to Hades and I still suck

mint coral
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Fair enough

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If you've played h2 I think you can guess how to make traps worse

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(post 1st win)

stray minnow
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But traps already sucks

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Nearly beat meg ugh

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First win over meg and I go back to finish h2

mint coral
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I assume you know how the dash iframes work?

stray minnow
mint coral
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Dashing makes you completely invincible until the very end of it but the iframes are cancelled upon using any move during the dash (dash strikes/special/you name it)

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So if you gotta dodge, don't attack yourself

mint coral
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Just press the dash button without inputting an attack during it

tacit ember
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Space to dash

tacit ember
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The dash frames are shorter than you might expect

tacit ember
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lol got offered ares legendary for the first time

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seems kinda cracked

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that and hunting rifts form the same boon

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but gonna chose that for fates

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  • prolly gon get duo later anyway
rustic vale
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it’s +1 for the regular cast and dash

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and +0 for the bugowulf flare

tacit ember
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lol well it felt pretty strong

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maybe rifts are jsut strong by defualt

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i did apply 2 curses and had chillies buff

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its liek lv 4 or smth

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also that hamer that gives crit and + dmg to the return special is so good on achilles it feels like

rustic vale
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Blades are naturally strong and even at +1 per hit it’s still pretty fine

tacit ember
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why so inquisitive

rustic vale
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it’s just weird

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to like

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For it to seem that impactful

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compared to every other part of your kit

tacit ember
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🤷‍♂️

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obviously compared to rifts its not significant

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but it was conviniet for clearing tart and asph

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oh i might have had braid of atlas for the hydra fight lol

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explains why hydra melted

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is it wroth ugprading black metal

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prolly not since hunting

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lol only 2 eye gusy coudl spawn during the butterfly mini

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lmao ihappened to have dio and i just now got the arti dio duo

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i have the ares dio one also

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i didnt end up seeing hunting again lol

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lmao im getting the dio athena dio

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bro is most popular guy fr

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ooh ig the pots being traps is the reason hades gets damaged by them

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erm idk what was happening

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hades was healing

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2.2

mint coral
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Super dad thing

tacit ember
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but like i was damaging him at the same rate

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lol cerberus

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the spear thorw mixup on that 3 hit combo he does is kinda annoying lol

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bruh third pahse

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i cant see lol

mint coral
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there's a cheat for that

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turn up the brightness in settings

tacit ember
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bruh

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i died

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lol

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he was on a sliver bruh

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atleast i can max out my aspect now

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bruh i havent gotten the rapid hammer for so long

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ooo i forgot about possidon

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that arti and possidon duo pretty tasty if i somehow get it lol

rustic vale
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the numbers are way lower so it’s not as large iirc

tacit ember
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is the ares demiter duo worth stacking on hunting rifts build

mint coral
tacit ember
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o

mint coral
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if you get one you can't get the other

tacit ember
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is teh demiter dio good

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ig you get to use demiter secondary boons on blade

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but compared to hunting idk if that is worth lol

cunning niche
indigo grove
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How do you unlock the/benefits package and extreme measures? I’ve beaten the game multiple times and I paid for extreme measures with the contractor, but I don’t see those options anywhere before starting a run

tacit ember
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thats strange

mint coral
indigo grove
mint coral
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extreme measures 1-3 needs you to have at least met all 3 furies

indigo grove
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Yeah I’ve done that I just don’t see where to view these menus

mint coral
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start a run and look at the pact of punishment

tacit ember
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by the time you can buy em4 from the contracter you should have seen the 3 guys

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what is benefits packedge btw

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i dont know the names

indigo grove
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Oh I see

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Got it thanks

mint coral
tacit ember
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i think it would be fun if achiless dash special woudl activate the dash boon

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since im pretty sure it has i frames like dash

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imagine if that arti arow boon procked on hit instead of on input

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aaaaaaaaa

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i got the arti legendary

rustic vale
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because last I checked it proks on hit for strike and special

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but it has a 0.2s internal cooldown regardless of the # of hits

tacit ember
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its when it comes out

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for cast atleast

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for attack and special its on hit

gilded leaf
tacit ember
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dem and ares duo i was talking about

mint coral
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that one stinks

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mostly bc of the whole blocking hunting blades thing

gilded leaf
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i love it

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you can pop enemies so easily with that

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if you add in zeus dio duo it gets even better

tacit ember
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lol im gon get stygian shard to boost pot damage to hades

mint coral
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oh yeah funny thing about stygian shard

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trap dmg is multiplicative

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with 2 of them you deal like 6.5k with a pillar on his miniboss encounter

tacit ember
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it can be stacked?

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lol thats hilarious

gilded leaf
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hunting blades is great don’t get me wrong but the trippy shot build is so funny

mint coral
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they were talking about freezing vortex

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not ice wine

rustic vale
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that’s what it says it does

mint coral
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ice wine is cool for non hera/beo

tacit ember
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mainly just ares and dem would get big free damage

rustic vale
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not really

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It’d be free damage but it’d still be held back by the 0.2s itc

tacit ember
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blade does liek 30 dmg per hit tops

tacit ember
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lmao having 6 casts is so funny

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tbh the arti legendary isnt even all that

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but funny still

rustic vale
tacit ember
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erm wait why does hades dash to his spear

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bro has aspect of achilles

mint coral
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Funny em4

tacit ember
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but fair enough

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bruh turning up brightness during third phase doesnt even help

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jsut makes super contrasty

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beat him

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hehe

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almsot threw lol

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think i lost one em first and second phases

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didnt in third hehe

rustic vale
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Nodding along to ppl talking about the em4 fight because I haven’t used it in like 500 runs squirtyay

tacit ember
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lol im getting the guanyu thing

rustic vale
mint coral
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Do it anyways tizomg

rustic vale
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Nah

tacit ember
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gonna try for 32 again now

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does this look about right

rustic vale
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pstatus

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legacy

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🤨

tacit ember
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i think i want to gofor privillaged since im running ares anyway im sure i can get doom on smth and just another random curse

mint coral
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I assume this is achilles?

tacit ember
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yup

tacit ember
mint coral
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Yeah swap priv at least

tacit ember
mint coral
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If this is your first rounds through 32 heat I'd keep legacy tbh

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Non hunting blades slicing can suck

tacit ember
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thats what im saying

mint coral
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With more experience I'd def swap to pride tho

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You get better at forcing duos/get more benefit from good hermes/can deal with the situation even if you don't roll the duo

tacit ember
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are you like exausting a gods pool untill you get it

mint coral
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Knowing what to take to not open unnecessary duos/filling up your core slots/using rerolls well alongside rarity buffs like yarn or refreshing nectar

tacit ember
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skull i think i just now talked to skelly for the first time

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💀💀

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wel he introduced himself and zag said the thing about him not being on payrole

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i assume that is the first convo

rustic vale
tacit ember
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hm i reloaded so now i never had the first convo

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wonder if i keep giving him necter if zag magically knows his name

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in the book hes already named skelly

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i sitll dont have any plushies bruh

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am i stupid

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also ive not been prompted to get the ppls for the feast

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bruh what i picked ares keepsake and possidon spawns talking about fish or whatever

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why is he giving me the legendary bruh

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as if im gonna fish

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prolly sells for alot of gold tho

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what even prompts this

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i barily ever fish

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lol what

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i got a pom major reward room but the only boon i have is the fish one

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oh it just gives gold

rustic vale
rustic vale
tacit ember
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im on run 42 i think

bright canopy
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Hi all new player here i bought the game for the greek mythology aspect but the gameplay is awesome!

tacit ember
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lol i lost to fury

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unlocked resoruces guy

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skull

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im too poor

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skull i basically only take the blodo vile for tart and its lv 3 now

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ooo natural arti

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omg hunting pre fury

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poggers

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i didnt thorw the fury fight lol

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lol i think im gon take possidon keepsake so i have 5 gods

gilded leaf
tacit ember
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bruh ive failed 2 troves this run

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bruh

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i died to the bull miniboss

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im actually so skillissued

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erm erm zag said "whats going on skelly"

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as i like walked up to him

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but im pretty sure i didnt have the convo where he introduces himself

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whatever ig lol

mint coral
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why were you doing troves at 32

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also do you know how to get the 2 extra defiances with stubborn + athena

tacit ember
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bruh what

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excuse me

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i only know that athena gives 10% extra hp

tacit ember
mint coral
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this will grant you one death defiance and stubborn regens next room

tacit ember
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whaaaaaaaaat

mint coral
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and stubborn is always used first

tacit ember
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wow thats gigagantic

mint coral
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so you can go in with 2 dds + stubborn to dad lol

mint coral
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if you ended the combat at really low hp

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activate the trove, proc stubborn then leave

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the doors don't close during troves

tacit ember
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???????????????????

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you can just leave?

mint coral
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yup

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zag even comments on it

tacit ember
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the rewards only appear once you finish the room

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do you mean a different place

mint coral
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nope

tacit ember
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bruh what

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ill check it out

mint coral
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you can even get the trove cleared and leave without picking up the stuff from it lol

tacit ember
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yoo arti tart again

mint coral
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also niche stubborn stuff

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if the reward is a centaur heart and you are lower than 30%, proc stubborn then pick up the hp

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is more hp than heart then stubborn

tacit ember
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bruh what natural athena spawn also lol

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i already have arti but i think i should take her keepsake anyway to try to get the duo

mint coral
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could take early hourglass if it's good

tacit ember
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woudl i benifit form having hourglass in asph

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i think i just take arti keepsake

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bruh frick

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i got a fountain room with athena in asph

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and i rolled last stand

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if i remembered to kill myself i could have gotten a free dd lol

mint coral
tacit ember
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oo

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i got greater recall lol

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convinient

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yippie

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hunting

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we love arti

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oo

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i got heart rend lol

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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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athena legnedary

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pogging so hard rn

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this is why we pick legacy

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burubhuhbruhbruhbruh

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i threw the run at heros

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thats actuallyt eh most idiot thing bruh

mint coral
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what's your overall pact?

tacit ember
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its the top one on the right in the document

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but i took of one level from the time limit thing and put on 3 levels of more guys

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bruh id ied in asph

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last try today lol

latent moon
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You could consider using some damage control

tacit ember
mint coral
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figured

tacit ember
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also i used eribus to avoid dio solo door and got offered arti hehehe

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genius level move

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(i lost the gate)

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it was like mega long bruh lol

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bruh i died to the thwomp lol

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miniboss

latent moon
tacit ember
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last run fr this time

tacit ember
latent moon
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Jury summons

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More enemies

tacit ember
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oooh

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makesense yea

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bruh i got a room with skulls with that stupid sheild generating perk lmao

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skull

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bruh

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wow so wortht hat i spent last couple of hour doign this instead of going to sleep

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skull

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sobad

dusty roost
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heyyyyyyyyyy i just got here

rustic vale
brisk trail
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Hi

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Me too

scenic mango
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Hey, is rhere any trick for getting Flame Wheel Release to show up in wells? I’m aware that it only spawns in Elysium

crimson ibex
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Me with Delta Chamber, Tempest Strike and Sea Storm with Exagryph

hazy widget
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Do you think we'll ever see a switch 2 patch for the original Hades?

mint coral
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If you really want to min max it ig
Turn off dark foresight if it is on and grab as many keys as possible

royal bobcat
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trying out 32 heat and its not going well
and your guess is it's probably something to do with 32 heat but what if I told you I am in elysium and I have not been offered my 4th god (unless you count demeter which I'm refusing)
and building into a duo boon and have not been offered that boon despite having the prerequisites

another day another needing that mod that disables gods from runs that I dont want and disables boons that I dont need because the game cant do it itself

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ya and from what I can see, 32 heat's not impossible, its not hard. if I got hunting blades in tararus I could do it no problem, for sure.

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I'm not even shetting on the game rn, its just so impossible to get the things you need on the runs you need it on
I feel like I have to wipe a bunch just to get a decent seed

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just beat bull of minos miniboss, ares boon reward, still no hunting blades and now they're trying to give me aphrodite

lavish sorrel
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no flame

royal bobcat
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next room is a 2 god room, end up getting the attack, yay, but instead of getting the duo, I get the legendary. I'm not even eligable for any other duos.

I remember when I first started playing this game, getting through theseus and asterius was an impossible feat for me
that was on 0 heat, now I'm on 32, and while I feel the same way, its not cause I'm bad, but because I got nothing
funny how the turns have tabled

lavish sorrel
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there are helper-guides pinned #h1-high-heat-strategies if that's what you're looking for. 32 heat allows for a lot of random nonsense, with some options obviously being easier to play than others.

royal bobcat
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I see what you're saying, and its honestly a combination of how I intentionally ramped up the mob difficulty because I knew that hunting blades could handle it

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but I don't have that boon

lavish sorrel
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moyaiblur did you seriously do HL5 JS3 CP2 BP2

royal bobcat
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I don't know some of those acronyms, and what I do know I don't know what that relates to on the setting

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lemme guess, wrong choices?

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timer is free heat?

lavish sorrel
royal bobcat
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ya. if your average clear time is just over 36 minutes, its not, since thats 9 minutes x4

lavish sorrel
lavish sorrel
royal bobcat
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oh no, 36 on 0 heat

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or, 1-10

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its a big improvement, they used to take almost an hour

west quarry
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is tidal dash food for sword of nemesis

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should I sell for 150, im in elysium, have artemis attack demeter special, ares cast

lavish sorrel
west quarry
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wait why is it good tho

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it just knocks them away

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I only beat the game once btw

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doing heat 1

royal bobcat
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to shoves enemies into walls, other enemies, and disrupts doomstone

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its probably the easiest to use for ad clear

west quarry
royal bobcat
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doomstone is the laser miniboss in tartarus

royal bobcat
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cleanup as they call it

lavish sorrel
# west quarry wait why is it good tho

think of it like this:

almost all enemies can be knocked back, though some take more knockback than others. when an enemy gets knocked into a wall, that's a wallslam. it does decent damage. when an enemy gets knocked into another enemy, that's a bodyslam, which is like a wallslam but a fair bit stronger. the more speed the enemy had before the collision, the usually more damage it will take and deal from collisions with other objects.

every non-asphodel chamber has walls. if you can force enemies (preferably multiple at once even for more collisions) into these walls and corners to get more damage than expected.

west quarry
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VERY annoying if u dont have aoe

west quarry
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thanks

royal bobcat
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I didnt know it factors in velocity

west quarry
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do I get shado slash
supernova or hoarding slash from hammer

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does shadow slash effect dash strike

royal bobcat
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you're gonna have to ask him, idk what those do (or weapen those are for)

west quarry
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thank you very much

west quarry
autumn jewel
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hoarding slash is bad because it does not synergize with your boons and you want to spend for boons

west quarry
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I have demeter speical

autumn jewel
lavish sorrel
# lavish sorrel think of it like this: almost all enemies can be knocked back, though some take...

@west quarry (for completeness)
the main tier 2 boons you're looking to get for Poseidon dash are Razor Shoals and Breaking Wave.
shoals is strong against chambers with enemies that move around a lot (as is often the case in Asphodel and Elysium), while Breaking Wave lets you demolish any chamber by making any enemy with a lot of health collide with another enemy or wall. Breaking Wave works as well as it does in Tartarus and Styx because the chambers are so small, letting enemies bounce from wall to wall.

west quarry
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thanks

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I never got razor shoals tho

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jus got razor shoals as I say this

rustic vale
west quarry
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whats the best special for sword, I got the hammer where the special hits twice

rustic vale
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any +% special should work fine

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artemis/aphrodite/athena are my preferred ones

west quarry
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I have artemis attack

west quarry
rustic vale
# west quarry wait why is it good tho

It’s a large amount of raw damage on each dash aside from wallslams. It starts at 35-49 depending on rarity and immediately gets a +21 from first pom and you should be dashing rather often so you can easily pump out a ton of high base damage dashes

lavish sorrel
rustic vale
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artemis strike also means aphro gives heart rend while athena gives deadly reversal

west quarry
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I always thought the number was low and never went for it tho

rustic vale
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Good enough that sword starts with it over a strike boon for speedrunning

west quarry
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damn

west quarry
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can you deflect melee attacks?

rustic vale
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~yes

lavish sorrel
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(as long as the thing to be deflected can be deflected, of course)

west quarry
rustic vale
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Iirc

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It’s been a hot minute

mint coral
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The only exceptions are like ground or above traps/beams no

west quarry
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alr

timid basalt
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Hi, does only one Vengeance boon trigger at a time? I had Curse of Vengeance (Doom) and Heaven's Vengeance (lightning), but when I got hit 75% of the time the enemy got struck by lightning and occasionally Doom was triggered. Definitely not both at once. (if so, I'll avoid doubling up in the future)

mint coral
rustic vale
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If you get hit a whole ton at once you can watch a ton of little red auras pop out

timid basalt
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They were the last two boons I got (from the final area), so I didn't get too much time with them. Thanks for this info! (seems like it might be OK to pick multiple if you don't particularly need the other boons being offered)

timid basalt
rustic vale
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those 2 specifically are pretty strong

tender elk
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My friend just beat his first run and the first heat challenge he enabled is increased trap damage. Poor guy doesn't know what's coming

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He just hit Asphodel...

scenic mango
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Eh, it’s not that bad as long as you keep an eye out for the traps

mint coral
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Yeah but why gamble on not getting 1 shot by a funny dad pot tho

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There are better 1 heat stuff 😭

cunning niche
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idea: merciful end build with curse of vengeance divine dash and quick recovery

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am i cooking

rustic vale
cunning niche
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no but you dont attack

rustic vale
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The harder part is getting CoV and Holy Shield in proper order for the funny

cunning niche
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you just wait

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and then u dash to restore hp

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so u dont die

rustic vale
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I don’t think you’re cooking bouldy

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ME consistency is already bad enough

gray apex
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You can do a revenge build if you want to afk

tacit ember
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time to hader

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lol i picked hades keep sake since i just got it for fun and i got both athena and zeus in tart so ig im going for athena cast

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hades call is so lame bruh

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is it just liek athena call or whatever

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i googled seems the call gives a damage boost

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bruh crap

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i wasnt payign attention so i wanted to like reset up with stuborn but just threw the run lmao

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im gon try running athena again ig

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how do i unlock the heart with dusa

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i dont have the option to give her ambrosia

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i assume the chaos buff on casts is applied to whatever damage number it has on the current level instead of lv 1

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lol than encounter had 55 enemies

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i got 49

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lmao i got the athena aphro duo and aphro zeus dio in asph

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not the athena zeus one though lol

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not been chosing boons to force that duo

tacit ember
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athena cast lokey feels better to play with than hunting rifts lol

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dont have the duo still

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the base cast is just so cracked

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o got the duo in styx lol

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hehe

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won

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got one free athena dd but didnt end up using it

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kinda funny

mint coral
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gamer

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nice smair there lol

tacit ember
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vital part of the build

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i tried to see if i could get athena call on styx but didnt

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how do i unlock the party thing bruh

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isnt there a thing where you go around invting the gods to come eat

mint coral
tacit ember
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yea

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oh do i need to give necter to the gods and stuff

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ive not rly been doing that

swift orbit
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is hades better on controller or mouse and keyboard?

tacit ember
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im a keyboard fan

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ive barily ever played anything with a controller but i feel like keyboard just has alot more stability + more buttons

swift orbit
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yeah just wondering, i know some games feel better on controler, like 2d fighting games, games like eldin ring

tacit ember
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some fighting game controllers are very keyboard like

mint coral
tacit ember
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i think ppl like them mostly for traditional fighting games and i think some do for smash and stuff

mint coral
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once you have 6 bonds you can proceed

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(and demeter counts as 1 of the 6 when she reaches the lock, her favor is the epilogue itself)

tacit ember
tacit ember
mint coral
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for most stuff is just, pick what's more comfortable for you

tacit ember
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can you move and dash in more angles with controller?

mint coral
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ye

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if you like playing zeus shield/hestia/hidden rail there's def a better upside to kbm tho

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especially the latter

tacit ember
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i just unlocked beo

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are you supposed to load the casts after you let go of attack during the charge

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or do you do it when you are running around

mint coral
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I do the latter, is basically a per run thing/practice but you start remembering how many casts you need per enemy

tacit ember
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im playing around with skelly and i find that if i start charging asap and release im able to pick up the stones form the previous rush and load them during the next rush lol

mint coral
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oh yeah generally you never load all 3/whatever your max is

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so you can do that rhythm of 2-1

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also keeps the dmg bonus on rushes

latent moon
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but there are multiple top players that use kbm or controller, there isn't necessarily a "best" imo

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pick one and stick with it basically

forest bear
#

Desperately need a mashup of Last Words and For Whom the Knell Tolls from Crypt of the Necrodancer. That would go so crazy hard

rustic vale
crimson ibex
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Is it me or is Than's theme during his encounters kinda sounds like a gloomier version of Good Riddance ?

shrewd garden
indigo grove
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How people beat this game with the bow is beyond me.

I’ve beaten it with every weapon except the bow and my highest heat is 5 (fists).

I do a little better with the second aspect but I just don’t get any enjoyment playing with the bow and I struggle with viable builds

latent moon
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basically dash strike only with the bow

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charges faster

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put aphrodite or artemis for the attack

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get tidal dash

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twin shot, triple shot hammer

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and perfect or point blank

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flurry is really good

cedar crypt
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true ending obtained!! took me 21 runs, i think that's pretty good

lavish sorrel
ivory lark
#

I’ve seen some different things online and got curious— which edition of the vinyl soundtrack was more limited? The black smoke or red smoke version? I’m looking to possibly purchase either or but I’ve found both for pretty reasonable prices, figured I might as well go with the more “rare” one

bright canopy
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I’m gonna try the shield next

latent moon
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i mean everyone's different lmao

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bow tends to be a pretty common dislike but that's generally bc people don't dash strike with it

bright canopy
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Yeah it felt natural to me, felt like kiting with kalista from LoL lmao

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I know some people like the fists too and thats the most difficult for me

tacit ember
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base bow with no hammers i think does infact feel pretty bad

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atleast i cant get much mileage from it

rustic vale
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You’re working at like 50% if not worse effectiveness without access to any hammers

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while bow has a load of really impactful hammers, if you’re playing without any of them your base damage output is significantly lowered and you miss out on a heap of extra additive damage

tacit ember
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maybe people try and drop bow early without being familiar with its hammers since its the first unlockable weapon

rustic vale
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Maybe? partially anyhow

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wrapping your head around bow dash-striking with it seems to be a pretty decent hurdle as well

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I haven’t really seen too many people who still have complaints with bow after learning to dash-strike and having a handle on which hammers to aim for aside from people who just don’t like the charge-up aspect of it flat out

tacit ember
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i think i might fall into the camp of not liking charg up

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if you have the explosion and tripple hammer you can kinda run up and blast enemies, thats kinda fun

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but even then to me bow feels sorta unsatisfying

boreal forge
#

I struggled with some aspects of the bow, but found it super easy to use with the aspect of Chiron.
Add some extra special arrows with hammer, get something stackable on the special like frost or maybe even hangover with a duo boon with Aphrodite or Artemis, and you're set

austere vessel
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how do i unlock the rest of the weapons?

mint coral
tacit ember
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😭 its 4 am and ive not finished my anki bruh

fierce umbra
#

I beated Hades for the first time :)

fluid radish
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I was fighting hades

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With his enchantments

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Dude spawned 2 SNEAKS and a GIANT BUTTERFLY BALL

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Wtf

autumn jewel
indigo grove
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I was trying to figure out how to max out my relationship with a few different gods to progress the story, but I’ve had a roadblock.

None of their hearts have locks, but when I go to select their powers I don’t have the option to give them nectar anymore. Do I need to just keep interacting and keep selecting them until I have the option to give them nectar again?

Hermes, aphro, dio, Artemis, ares are the ones I’m working

autumn jewel
indigo grove
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Yeah I don’t have that option it’s odd

autumn jewel
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do you have ambrosia?

indigo grove
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I can only select their boons

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Yes plenty

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So like Hermes, they won’t let me gift him anymore and I’ve talked to him with the plume equipped

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Looks like I haven’t completed aphro’s requirements yet

sonic oasis
#

Guys how does one achieve the gift of song fated list thing?

sonic oasis
#

Also is there any purpose in gifting boldy?

tacit ember
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Pretty sure he gives you a boon or smth

rustic vale
rustic vale
sonic oasis
fluid radish
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Tbh the game feels too easy now

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So im cranking up that heat

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I do atleast 16 heat

tacit ember
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skull

tacit ember
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em 4 diolauge is kinda funny

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they talk about hades being dramatically stronger while all he does is do an extra sweep and throw his spear

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i think third phase is the same as 2.2 only with fog

indigo badge
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also the constant vase spawning isn't a joke

rancid cradle
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yeah i agree

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i suck at movement so the extra hazards around hades is definitely a noticeable layer harder for me to this day

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"skill issue" yes but its also a point i suppose

tacit ember
latent moon
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For 4 heat you can just take other things that don't have a chance to kill your run at the end

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Either way it's a whole extra phase and a lot more hp you have to burn through, not to mention you're probably on SD and have to pray you don't get bad summons like butterfly ball

tacit ember
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i ment from a lore perspective rather than gameplay

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they talk about how em4 is the level hades was at when he could take down titans and what not

vivid smelt
#

Hello guys, which events have 100% chance to spawn?

tacit ember
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4th run you unlock call i think

vivid smelt
tacit ember
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clear 10 you get to skip the hades fight

lavish sorrel
tacit ember
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phase 3 hades unlocks pocket sand

lavish sorrel
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as seen in the "seeded loyalty card" speedrun category extension

tacit ember
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that reminds me that i havent beaten charon in this savefile yet

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charon is so much harder than the zigzagoon fight in hades 2 bruh

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part of it might be that there are many more ranged options in 2

vivid smelt
indigo badge
tacit ember
#

did you know that the 月radial is associated with body parts

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👍

latent moon
#

Bull miniboss is just a 50/50 in Elysium

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Any story room (Sisyphus, Eurydice, Patroclus) is just rng

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Thanatos also just rng

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Fountains rng

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There's nothing guaranteed in a run after like the first 4/5 and Poseidon legendary when you unlock the fishing rod

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And Demeter after reaching the surface

vivid smelt
lavish sorrel
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minibosses. and midshop............. usually. (midshop has some restrictions on the chambers it can appear after. if enough of those conditions are met during a biome, the shop can sometimes just not appear. it's pretty rare to miss midshop though.)
no, but given the amount of chambers where a fishing point can appear, you're bound to see at least one in every biome. note that picking up the second poseidon legendary will remove the chamber-cooldown between two fishing points.

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note that from a new save file only, the bombers miniboss is the only one that exists in tartarus for a while (until the player gets far enough into the game). you could say that's the truly guaranteed instance of a miniboss in all of hades the videogame.

hexed hawk
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how do u get better with the fists

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bcuz i ussually go for the spear but i kinda always go for the same build all the time and it boring

tacit ember
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lol just did a beo run

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only turned em 4 on

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maybe im just bad but didnt really feel that strong

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i just kinda did braindead game play

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charge when bosses attacking and release on window lol

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idk lol i feel like lv 6 epic is pretty high lv

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lol what

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i just had encounter with meg in zags room and she said smth about retreaving things

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why would she have things in zags room bruh

proud flax
#

I beat <Redacted> for the first time

latent moon
#

mirage shot is bugged on beowulf to have 100% instead of 30%

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passion flare with priv status is still considered a lot of damage tho

west quarry
proud flax
west quarry
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I just beat the game for the 3rd time rn

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I unlocked the last 2 mirror of night talents which ones do I get

proud flax
west quarry
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gods pride
gods legacy

fated persuasion
fated authority

proud flax
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<Redacted> is ||Hades||

west quarry
west quarry
indigo badge
west quarry
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isnt legendary or duo boons better tho

indigo badge
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duos are already easy enough to get and most legendaries are worthless

lament pulsar
#

HOLY SH- GUACAMOLE ZAGREUS IS GONNA BE IN INDIE CROSS

latent moon
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legendaries are too difficult to get bc of prereqs, and most of the time you dont need a duo for a good build

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epic hermes and chaos is much more worthwhile

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and some god boons really like rarity compared to other boons

west quarry
#

ALR

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alr*

spiral bear
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i'm listening to gluck's orfeo ed euridice right now

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is this opera why orpheus has his countertenor voice?

fluid radish
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Just bested hard mode hades hell yeahhhh

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And by hell yeah i mean hellmode

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17 heat

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Yk stage 3

mint coral
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Gg

tacit ember
#

Heck mode

shell herald
shell herald
# shell herald

i think i can't use it properly lmao, i'm playing n keyboard and it's a ltrl hell

rustic vale
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than controller

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Especially if you’re trying to play it better, since you’re firing off more shots per second and moving way more if you’re constantly dash-striking

shell herald
violet holly
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What is (in your opinion) the worst/best boss in hades 2

violet holly
shell herald
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what are y'alls favorite boons?

lavish sorrel
mint coral
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Ofc

mint coral
lavish sorrel
# mint coral Ofc

can't wait for someone nicknamed "Aspect of Beowulf" to eventually come in and post emojis of the three important flood beo boons

ember sparrow
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shadefear mfw front facing than

real ermine
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if any developer see this there is any chance that the god of blood achievement will be added in steam since the god of nightmares achievement in hades 2 is on steam

lavish sorrel
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not a developer for the game, but this question gets asked in this channel like once per week, and it's not been done yet

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so take it as a "probably not, no"