#h1-discussion

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unkempt plank
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fair

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what even is a good excaliber build?

amber crest
unkempt plank
amber crest
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No clue then. I heard double strike can actually be ok.

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But I don’t play Arthur

unkempt plank
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also does anyone know tue damage resist Arthur aura gives you

unkempt plank
amber crest
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I use nemesis

unkempt plank
amber crest
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Poseidons also really fun

unkempt plank
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2 words, lightning Phanlax

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pom it like crazy, you aint losing

amber crest
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I use it with lightning phalanx.

If I’m feeling memeyuse it with Artemis to rush mirage shot.
I know it’s not good, but it’s the best way to make artemis attack work.

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amber crest
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Tbf, I use every cast with Achilles

unkempt plank
amber crest
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That’s my build for when I’m speedrunning

unkempt plank
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pos special and dash, zeus on the other 3

amber crest
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But for casual play, I like using trippy shot, ice wine and mirage shot (gamblin)

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It’s not optimal, but it’s fun as hell

unkempt plank
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big number=funni

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like level 12 heroic trippy flare loaded into a beowulf shield

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its truly peak

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unkempt plank
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i mainly use shield and fists

amber crest
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I main fists and spear

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PUNCH

unkempt plank
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rank fists aspects

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not on how good they are

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personal opinion

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Demeter
Zagreus
Gilgamesh
Talos

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Personal opinion

unkempt plank
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for me its Gilagamesh, Demeter, Zag, The trash one

amber crest
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Wait from best to worse or worst to best

unkempt plank
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thats my favorite to least favorite

amber crest
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Well at least we can both agree Talos is GARBAGE

unkempt plank
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i find gilgamesh VERY fun

amber crest
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I personally don’t love Gilgamesh, but I respect the pick.

unkempt plank
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when i get its special hammer

amber crest
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Ok now THATS good

unkempt plank
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without… i perfer demeter

amber crest
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(Demeter is still better imo tho)

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Either way Demeter is till more fun FOR ME
I respect the Gilgamesh pick tho

unkempt plank
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1 thing i will never respect tho

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Aspect of hades users

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you aint him

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your not the goat

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autumn jewel
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as long as you play hera you have my respect

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autumn jewel
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yes

ripe coral
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Does anyone know the. Best playstyle with the hidden aspect of the first weapon?

pulsar laurel
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What first weapon

pulsar laurel
ripe coral
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Red one

pulsar laurel
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Tbh Nem sword is the easiest to plug and play

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But its hammer dependent

zealous vessel
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Is there a reason why people use aspect of Achilles but don’t even use the special? I see all the people using flurry strike on it, which is fair cuz it’s strong as hell, but why do they all specifically run Achilles spear but not even use the one thing the spear changes? I feel like I’m missing something

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This is just based off the runs and build guides I’ve seen btw

ripe coral
hardy parcel
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Yooo, so I just cleared a daimond bounty, it gave me the diamond and all in the run but when I died and came back to the lobby I had no diamond...
Is that a common glitch or just unlucky?

amber crest
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Every Achilles user uses the special

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They incorporate it into their rotation (double dash strike, special. Vary depending on context)

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Achilles has no way of upgrading its special damage, but the ability to hyper-boost its next four attacks/casts is extraordinarily powerful

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And flurry jab is just so ungodly broken that it’s a must use on Achilles

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So in short, they use both! Special to boost the attack, attack to deal ungodly damage

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Aspect of Arthur or nemesis?

ripe coral
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I just got it

amber crest
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Put Aphrodite on attack

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Or Artemis

ripe coral
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Alr thanks

amber crest
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Conversely

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Run Athena on attack and Artemis on special

hardy parcel
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hardy parcel
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diamonds are almost infinite anyway so i won't be lovked oht of anything, jyst gonna take slightly longer now

ripe coral
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The attack is just slow high damaging attacks

amber crest
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And a big amount of AOE

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Especially on the third hit of the combo

ripe coral
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Oh I didn't know that

amber crest
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If you have Athena on it, you can clear every projectile somewhat ahead of you and deflect it

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That being said, be wary that this is genuinely the clunkiest aspect in the game imo. So keep space between you and your opponent.

ripe coral
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But isn't the sword like mid to close range

amber crest
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Yeah, this one’s just mid ranges

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If you’re too close, you risk getting interrupted

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Of course, you’re still a melee weapon, so stay relatively near them

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But you don’t have to hug them

ripe coral
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Alright thanks dude this is gonna help alot 😃

amber crest
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Hope you enjoy it!
-# cuz I certainly don’t

pulsar laurel
amber crest
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Pfft, try over 1000 with Dionysus

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Rookie numbers

pulsar laurel
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I got a common boon yeah lmfao

lunar plume
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Would it be unusual to see the credits roll but still not used ambrosia? I have that stuff so long but still no one ever asked for it.

pulsar laurel
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Its gonna take a while

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But once you get smtn that costs ambrosia you will burn through most of it

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lunar plume
amber crest
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Tru that

zealous vessel
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3.5) depends on your build

zealous vessel
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Alright fair

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So just Zeus attack, Poseidon dash and whatever else?

amber crest
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Well, I should correct myself

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Artemis attack is often good too

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Not just Zeus

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I’m actually not sure which is better

zealous vessel
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Artemis attack is goated on everything rlly

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Any duos I should go for?

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zealous vessel
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I’ve not tried it on those Tbf

amber crest
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Castpect or standard?

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(Standard being not cast focus)

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Tho that’s not the best term for it

zealous vessel
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Standard

amber crest
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For example, hunting blades is very good
So is ice wine
So is mirage shot for either of the ones above
So is scintillating feast

zealous vessel
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Oh my

amber crest
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Standard doesn’t need much

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Literally like 3 boons

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(Attack, dash, another boon that could help depending on attack)

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Oh, and call is great for obvious reasons

zealous vessel
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Yeeee

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I’ve got Artemis on attack and dash damage rn

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Might go for some Aphrodite for the special?

amber crest
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Artemis dash ain’t great

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But we work with what we can have.
Go castpect

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Grab ares cast and rush hunting blades

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Good luck

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Anyway gtg sleep

zealous vessel
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Alr alr

tepid plover
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Hey chat, I'm going on a stretch herez but am I the only one who sees an apple in eris gun, especially knowing eris story

autumn jewel
pulsar laurel
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Whats that from

autumn jewel
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aphrodite

pulsar laurel
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Thanks

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Im surprised

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Its just the raw damage?

rustic vale
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dio is usable on hera it’s just more highroll because you want to run stygian soul for rechargeable casts

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and then need to find casts from chaos and wells

vast raven
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or play hera like bad zag bow with sometimes having a cast button you press

rustic vale
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It’s like zagbow with raw burst damage instead of crit chance

vast raven
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at least zagbow’s damage potential isnt fallen off by taking ri3

pulsar laurel
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I gotcha

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Thanks for the input

rustic vale
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55 heat no?

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55+

vast raven
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depends on pact but could technically be at 50 too

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but yeah more so a 55+ type of thing

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hera cant do dc so its top end with sd is 58 w/ ability to do casts still (60 is doable, just you ignore aspect)

rustic vale
vast raven
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pseudo tech is needed for the 60

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its explosive triple stuff

rustic vale
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has 60 been done though like

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or is chiron the only non-rama bow with 60

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atm

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It hasn’t yet

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That’s so cursed

vast raven
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unmodded nah

lunar plume
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I finally used my first ambrosia. My first bond was with... drum roll Charon. Of course it had to be the one you are talking the least with ^^

lavish sorrel
vast raven
rustic vale
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nasty dash with 30 poms makes every aspect 64 doable

neon pelican
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hey guys,this aint really a Hades question,but since Hades 2 has yet to come to console I decided I wanna try some other SG games,I wanna buy either Bastion or Pyre.Now I did fnish Hades 1,even platinumed it so im just asking are they worth getting?is the gameplay anything like Hades? I trust SG enough on all other aspects

rustic vale
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take a gander at the advertisements

neon pelican
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Thanks man,will do.I have a fairly low end laptop and I said wth why not try it😅 thamks again

lunar plume
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Yay, got my first sword win. That also means no no heat run anymore shadeohboy

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And also got my first secret aspect (spear)

unkempt plank
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grinding darkness rn

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got +130% darkness TWICE from chaos, a +95% from chaos, and i got +20% from dark thirst

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i got 2690 from that run alone holy luck

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and i didnt even get the posiden boon that would of given me more

astral yacht
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what do you need all that darkness for?

unkempt plank
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aka COSMETIC CHANGES

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yippie (I lack a life, social or otherwise)

astral yacht
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haha, no worries we all got our goals

rustic vale
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By the time you get Unseen One (the very last one), you’ll have spent 325k darkness and like pocket change of every other resource

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on the resource director

lunar plume
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Just to be sure: A Victory streak doesn't give you anything, right?

rustic vale
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maybe

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no real mechanical value and it doesn’t push any character story forward

lunar plume
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good, then I dont need to think about it too much

unkempt plank
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unseen dusk

round mural
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I almost beat zagreus's dad twice today

runic jungle
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I've seen people on reddit hype up Athena's dash and I feel like i use it wrong cause I don't like it that much lol.
It feels really situational for me compared to the other dashes

mint coral
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?
I mean, it does have a copypasta due to how much is glazed but is damn good for a reason

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Is just extra safety on a dash

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Most often you either take hers or pos if you want dmg

latent moon
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also considering how eh the other dashes are lmao

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like it always does something in every run

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especially in projectile heavy rooms

astral yacht
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I find that I lean too much on it. I tend to dash-strike through an attack, which works fine with athena but costs me a lot of life with everything else

lunar plume
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since you usually dash a lot, there is also a good chance to reflect "accidentally" with athena dash

round mural
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I beat the final boss on 2hp 0 death defiances 😭

worn nova
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What are themes

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Just unlocked em and I'm so very confused

rustic vale
polar aspen
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Thank you for letting me know, I like to talk to everyone before I start a run in case anyone has new dialogue

worn nova
fringe dust
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(and i have two of them 🫣 )

rustic vale
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The Gilgamesh runner

fringe dust
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yeah i have reccy and a second one that has the best build i've ever had

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but not a lot of the worse aspects have multiple sub 6s (and 3 on record with gilga)

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but yknow, fist gang goes hard

polar aspen
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Also I can still give the gods ambrosia and fill their hearts even after invites yes?

vast raven
polar aspen
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Okay good thank you

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I still have a few gods to go

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Haven't been unlocked aphrodite or hermes

vast raven
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ex: on my main file i still have skelly new skelly dialogue that i have refused to interact with

polar aspen
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Lol

vast raven
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same with nyx, achilles, dusa, thanatos, and one other iirc

craggy badger
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hey guys

polar aspen
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Hey

round mural
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i just realized i need to beat hades 10 times to get the other endings lol

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I beat him once

polar aspen
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Hey congrats

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What weapon did you use

round mural
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Bow

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Did an only special build

polar aspen
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Nice

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My first win was with the shield

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First time trying it out too

round mural
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I fought him with the shield once

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It blocks i give it that but the damage isnt that good

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You can probably block the beam attack in phase 2 without taking cover with the shield

polar aspen
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Well mine had captain america, I kept bouncing it off the walls at hades

past spruce
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So I recently finally got the choice to fight Charon

round mural
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Not sure if i should go for hades 2 or try to beat him 9 more times ☠️

past spruce
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Lost horribly cause I wasn't rocking a good setup anyway

round mural
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It took me a long time to beat him once

past spruce
round mural
past spruce
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Well, idk about attempts I gave up, but the attempt number in-game for my first win is like, 21/22

round mural
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Wait ill check idk the attempts honestly

past spruce
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I don't think the game counts attempts you give up cause it straightup doesn't save your progress if you give up

round mural
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32 it says

past spruce
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Ahhhh

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Idk if either of our numbers are high or low

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Like in a "typically people get their first won run after X attempts" way

round mural
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The story is so damn long 😅

past spruce
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YEAH

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"Oh you won your first run? Yeahhhhh uh please beat the game 9 more times now"

round mural
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What if you do beat it 9 times what happens then

past spruce
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Idk, story stuff
I'm at 9 wins so I need that 10th

polar aspen
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All the interpersonal relationships

round mural
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I assume you just play runs forever after 10 clears

past spruce
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Yeah, 'tis the nature of rougelikes

round mural
past spruce
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As someone who played a lot of Isaac it was the same there too

round mural
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Balatro is the same you just keep playing forever after beating the 10 main levels

past spruce
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I'm just not sure how much I'll play this game before moving onto H2

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Already poured over 27 hours into it according to Steam

round mural
past spruce
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Oh wow

round mural
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There are runs where i just had bad luck with my build and runs where i just got greedy against him

past spruce
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Tbh I always did kinda lock in during the final boss, it's just that earlier on I had sub-par builds that mean I just could not survive long enough

rustic vale
round mural
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I bet hades 2 is the same thing but instead of escaping it's something else

past spruce
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I'm just wondering how H2 compares to H1 in terms of scale/amount of content

polar aspen
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I'm waiting till I beat the post story before looking into H2

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Almost there

rustic vale
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from what I’ve heard

rancid ember
# round mural I assume you just play runs forever after 10 clears

Sort, of, there are various measures for 100% completion though even people going for this will generally leave off attempting max heat because that's a hard-as-balls superchallenge that idk if has actually even been done legitimately.

Without measuring it by challenge runs you can basically get ~100% content (save idk maybe some dialogue options) by maxing all relationships, doing all prophecies, filling the Codex, buying all the stuff at the Contractor, and getting the random stuff from the Resource director, getting all the rewards up through 20 heat (the cap) for each weapon, maxing out your keepsakes and companions, and getting at least 1 32 Heat run to get the statue associated, getting all of which will take at least 126 wins and idk how many total runs.

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The fact that if you include run rewards in 100% completion this demands 126 wins is funny though, heh

polar aspen
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"As he explores the wonders of the world, Prince Zagreus discovers a quaint farm, in which he carelessly trespasses, stepping on a farming-tool, which swoops up and strikes him in the forehead, fatally."
...I just got looney tune raked...

polar aspen
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"He cannot kill me like this every time, believes the Underworld Prince. He shall eventually have no more ideas. But the Prince, as often is the case, is wrong."
... I'm going to kill both zagreus and this narrator LOL

mint coral
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I love the narrator and all his other roles

round mural
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Also the game has gorgeous visuals as well especially when you reach the surface

latent moon
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the people with thousands of hours are probably grinding speedruns or high heat runs lol

vast raven
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im not even at a thousand hours yet and ive been grinding them for the past like

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700

shadow dome
torn sierra
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So… I have killed more than 10k enemies (it’s more than 20k) but I don’t get the option to unlock Ares’ 7th heart (I do have Ambrosia in my inventory)

lavish sorrel
# rancid ember Sort, of, there are various measures for 100% completion though even people goin...

We, at time of writing, have reason to believe there are three legitimate unmodded unseeded 64 heat clears. One by AngeL1C with Zeus shield, one by a chinese player I thus don't have the keyboard to type the name out (but often goes by "bai") again with Zeus shield, and one by PlayAd using Rama bow. Additionally, there are also over a dozen 64 wins using the speedrunning modpack. No signs of cheating were detected, and that's as good of a standard we can reasonably ask for when it comes to legitimacy.

zealous vessel
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Might have to give it a go

lavish sorrel
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Not nearly as strong as Rama in terms of damage, but very safe

zealous vessel
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Fairs I’ll give it a go

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Haven’t tried it yet

lunar plume
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coincidentally I used zeus shield in my last run for the first time. At some time it did nothing and sometimes I was surprised how much damage it did to an enemy ^^

lunar plume
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I recently read somehwere you can just give up if the first boon is not what you want. But I get the same choices everytime. So how does that work? (I want Zeus attack)

vast raven
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only way to re-randomize options is via a run death

tepid plover
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Yeah gotta die

lunar plume
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Damn

rustic vale
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You can swap keepsakes though and you’ll have the exact same options (with the same rarities if the keepsakes are equal level)

lunar plume
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What I find strange is that last time (another run) I wanted Zeus attack for my fists I got the exact same three choices. Is that just pure coincidence?

rustic vale
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pure concidence

lunar plume
tepid plover
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No

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Wait im actually not sure nvm

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Athena dash is overrated anyway and I dont like cheesing

rustic vale
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divine dash is not a reason you would do this

tepid plover
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Lotta work just to get a core boon

lunar plume
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damn, my first loss after 9 wins

rustic vale
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starting a run and you see that the strike boon is epic so you swap to a merciful end build

tepid plover
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Right, but divine dash 😐

lavish sorrel
tepid plover
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Crazy spoilers

lavish sorrel
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I miss stickybot

sour turret
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?

tepid plover
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On god

lavish sorrel
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<@&456908176877551658> pls

tepid plover
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Sticky bot my homie

sour turret
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Ay, if y'all are gonna get crusty with me off my first message, y'all can save it.

tepid plover
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You just came to the h1 channel and spoiled h2 lmao, wdym

sour turret
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Spoiling a game that's already out?

tepid plover
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....

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God forbid people dont play the game on release day

sour turret
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Take a deep breath, my homies

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It's gonna be alright

hexed smelt
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Please put a spoiler tag on your message

void vigil
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Yes keep in mind that this is the channel for the first game that people may be just getting into now

hexed smelt
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that also works

void vigil
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Spoiler tagging is at least courteous

sour turret
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Aaaaaaaaaaand I was talking about H1

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Yikes, all this off my very first message

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What a trip

tepid plover
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All you needed was a spoiler tag, we would've loved to talk about it

sour turret
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Oo, your indifference makes you SO cool, lmfao

tepid plover
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I would've at least

sour turret
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Again. First message.

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And I thought I needed anxiety medication.....

tepid plover
sour turret
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What a crap attitude.

tepid plover
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Sure bud

sour turret
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Thanks for the warm welcome, lmfao

tepid plover
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Youre welcome 💖

sour turret
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Stay crusty, lmfao.... Just remember therapy is excellent.

tepid plover
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Nah im fine 🙂

sour turret
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I can't tell, lmfao

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I come in saying one thing, excited to share, and y'all are having an anyeurism over it.

tepid plover
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Thats fine I guess, doesnt really bother me

sour turret
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Trying to convince me, or yourself?

tepid plover
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It was fine really you didn't have to make it all this over it

sour turret
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I didn't make nothing over it

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Y'all did

tepid plover
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Sure

sour turret
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Don't blame me for your actions

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Take accountability

tepid plover
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Projecting and everything

astral yacht
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Not sure why you can't listen to the mods rather than overreacting

sour turret
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You sure are

tepid plover
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If I apologize would it help

hexed smelt
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Rawkfist, you were asked to put a spoiler tag on the message. That’s all. It’s quite reasonable to ask for spoiler tags if you’re talking about the endgame of a sequel that hasn’t been out very long.

sour turret
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I noted the mods' suggestions. I'm just clapping back on people that respond to excited sharing with crusty attitutdes, like that's cool but what I said isn't.

tepid plover
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want an apology or not

sour turret
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Is it sincere?

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If not, no.

tepid plover
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not really since i didnt do nothing but point out the obvious

sour turret
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OK, then save it.

tepid plover
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👍

sour turret
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I just know that this community, by my first impression, is incredibly testy and touchy.

tepid plover
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🤣

void vigil
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Moving swiftly on

hexed smelt
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Alright. Now that we have this sorted I’m asking for a topic change, please; if you wanted to discuss the original idea further, Rawkfist, I’d suggest #h2-discussion might actually be the better place

tepid plover
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ill be there, would love to talk about it like i said earlier

sour turret
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Discussing potential H1 DLC in an H2 venue just doesn't make sense to me.

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But I suppose it's whatever.

tepid plover
sour turret
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Keep mocking me, dude

hexed smelt
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Do not.

sour turret
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Like, do y'all even WANT to welcome me at this point? Because it sure seems pretty hostile here.

lavish sorrel
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Anyway

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Anyway, Hades ONE. Great game.

tepid plover
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it be

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my favorite game

sour turret
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All because my very first message wasn't to someone's liking.

tepid plover
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i wish i could experience this game again for the first time

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greatest experience ever

prisma wind
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I feel like you aren't understanding the issue, my guy. Even if it is something you want to see for H1 you're basing it on major spoilers from H2 and then complaining that people are upset

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Please move on

void vigil
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It really is. It was the first early access game I played AND I played it from day 1, it was really once in a lifetime

sour turret
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Yes, I'm just a raging jerk because I misstepped with my very first message in the server

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Y'all take this far too seriously.

tepid plover
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is has to be ragebait at this point you was asked to move on like 3 times now

astral yacht
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I politely request the mods actually time this person out

void vigil
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Hundreds of runs later i still did not get bored LOL even tho i didnt get super into challenge runs i had fun with it

sour turret
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My point is the response didn't match the "offense". Not by a long shot.

tepid plover
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i still play it to this day

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400 hrs and counting

void vigil
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h2 combat spoiled me it rlly feels better to play but I do need to finish the h2 story 😔

tepid plover
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yeah the combat is good

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but even after a couple of h2 runs, i still come back to this

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idk if its nostalgia or what

astral yacht
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Question about boons - if I sell a hermes boon, will i still get a chance for 2 other hermes boons prior to styx?

lavish sorrel
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Or, uh, the correct answer is "selling doesn't affect that"

void vigil
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It’s not my absolute favorite of sg games (everyone play transistor Now) but it’s incredible and like
The community sure is bigger LOL

tepid plover
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for me it is, since im here mostly for the roguelike

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i played a bit of pyre but cant say i liked it that much

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and the rest just dont look appealing to me

void vigil
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I loveeee visual novels and it’s the first sg game I was there for the release of so it was even more special

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(And it had preorders which is kind of funny in retrospect)

tepid plover
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yueah thats it, im here for gameplay, the story is but a nice bonus

void vigil
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I played it in one go 😭 it really was like “one more game mom then I’m going to bed” and 15 hours later ‘twas completed

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It definitely has the snappiest combat but I rlly like that every game feels like a new combination with everything from past games

tepid plover
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yup

astral yacht
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does transistor hold up to replays?

void vigil
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uhhhh I don’t know if it holds up for more than like, 3?? Depending what you want to get out of it

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But I love it and I like replaying it when I feel like I can’t play anything else. So I think my hours are approaching 150 if not past that shadeembarassed

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It’s like 3 hours when you already know the game and kinda “rush it” but a normal playthrough will still be short enough. Less than 10 hours for a first playthrough for sure

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Oh. Yeah I guess

brisk trail
#

Why does Achilles do this little animation where it looks like he's grabbing his head/face?

#

Idle animation

tepid plover
#

He's got a headache

rustic vale
#

that’s just how it is

brisk trail
#

Paracetamol for Achilles 💔

past spruce
#

Finally beat the tutorial (got my 10th win and the credits)

#

Also got the hidden aspect for the bow and I kinda love it

rustic vale
past spruce
#

I got Triple Shot and like
Idk what it's called but it's the hammer upgrade where your shots ricochet to multiple targets

#

Cleared crowds so fast

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And the Special on this aspect is literally just bonus damage

rustic vale
#

chain shot

past spruce
#

Yeah, that

rustic vale
hardy parcel
#

took me almost 20hrs for my first escape on hellmode blind

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did it with the bow as well xd

polar aspen
#

I just started my newest session of keepsake grinding and Athena decided to give me an epic Divine flourish, doubling my special damage immediately at the start of the run

polar aspen
#

And an epic greatest reflex coming out of Tartarus so I get five dashes total

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Or I could go with epidc side hustle for 16 coins a chamber

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Went with side hustle

hardy parcel
#

does anyone else always kill asterius first?

polar aspen
#

Asterion is easier to deal with than Theseus.
Asterion a close fighter whereas you have to deal with Theseus throwing his spear

sharp badge
#

Theseus is both easier to avoid since you can get the spear throw timing down, and way worse to deal with on his second half if the bull is still running.

polar aspen
#

I've had a couple runs where I killed them both at the same time. Both hitting their second phase together lol

sharp badge
#

Same, insane dps runs go hard

tidal creek
#

oops

polar aspen
#

Yeah lol plus Theseus kept trying to swing at me instead of throwing

lunar plume
#

I tried it exactly one time to kill Theseus first to see what it would be like

sharp badge
#

Really the game encourages you so much to start with the bull. Even the mini boss phase does.

amber crest
polar aspen
#

Funny thing is I usually forget to use my companions

amber crest
amber crest
polar aspen
#

I mean kinda? I have 5 of them unlocked but I suppose relatively speaking from my 106 runs.. I've had them for about.. 30 or so

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The only boss I remember to use it on is hades himself lol

amber crest
#

It took my 50 runs to consistently use it every run

polar aspen
#

Lol fair enough

#

Mind you a good chunk of my runs are also keepsake grinding

amber crest
#

Mostly cuz I didn’t want to interrupt Dusa from doing her job

polar aspen
#

I know I love her so much

amber crest
amber crest
#

DUSA

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MAID DUSA

polar aspen
amber crest
#

-# Medusa?

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That’s fair

polar aspen
#

Oh.. oh I didn't even think about that...

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Oh I love her so much

amber crest
polar aspen
#

Cause she's called a servant, not maid

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And y'know servant serpent

amber crest
#

Mm

polar aspen
#

At least hats the way my mind went with it

amber crest
#

That’s fair lol it took me a while too

polar aspen
#

And the brains always gonna come up with an explanation for everything

amber crest
#

Overthinking and under thinking go brrrr

polar aspen
#

Lol

#

So true

polar aspen
#

I'm now a Delta Warden!

amber crest
polar aspen
#
- shade```
My guy.. she floating right behind you.
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I just realized the narrator is Homer xD

polar aspen
#

Was waiting for it

hardy parcel
#

I thought melinoe was zagreas daughter with like artemis or something

#

i guess i was wrong

polar aspen
#

Oof lol

#

I never see the two any more than Artemis having a small crush on Zagreus because they're closer in age, relatively speaking

hardy parcel
#

yeahh

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i did the whole artemis storyline early and first few hearts seemed like it was leading somwhere

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then nothing much

polar aspen
#

Nah

hardy parcel
#

could be meg or alecto too tbh

polar aspen
#

Never felt like zagreus felt that way for Artemis as he does for dusa or meg

hardy parcel
#

the especially you and lady artemis mightve thrown me off

polar aspen
#

Even with offer her ambrosia felt more like him playing to her emotions to get on her good side ykmow

hardy parcel
#

thats fair

polar aspen
#

Not maliciously mind you

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Just choosing the right things to say to satisfy her

hardy parcel
#

getting further into the story i realize he doesnt really care too much for the olympians

polar aspen
#

I mean he never really knew them so he doesnt really know what to think of them yet

hardy parcel
#

yep yep

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i do feel like most of the gods are kinda awful tho

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even artemis too sometimes

#

out of the olympians hermes might be the most chill out of a mortal perspective

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at first i thought his boons were sht but after a while i realized some are kinda op

polar aspen
hardy parcel
#

me frfr

#

on another subject

#

just me or does aphrodite feel kinda useless in hellmode

rustic vale
#

?!

#

Aphrodite negates more damage on hellmode bouldy

polar aspen
#

I'm not that familiar with hell mode have t really tried it yet

rustic vale
#

And her +% damage is still crazy

hardy parcel
#

i have tried going for a tank build but doesny work

#

yeah

rustic vale
#

hellmode forces you to have hl1/js1/cp1/lc1 on and a unique

hardy parcel
#

i usually put her boon on my main atk if it comes up

rustic vale
tough bramble
#

Isnt hellmode just normal mode with prebuilt pacts?

polar aspen
#

What boon automatically activates reaction boons again

hardy parcel
#

brb

polar aspen
#

I saw someone try an idle build where they could just stand next to hades and do nothing and win lol

rustic vale
rustic vale
#

It really just makes it take longer for a new player to learn the game ngl bouldy

tough bramble
polar aspen
#

Non sequitur
I wish zagreus would stop saying "sorry?" Whenever he "borrows" Charon's money

#

And I wish he'd say "hey Charon, want to fight?" More often

tough bramble
#

How is charon so strong btw?

#

Lore wise

rustic vale
#

Powerscaling fr fr

#

Business partners with Hermes

#

Zag never actually vanquishes Charon unlike Dad

polar aspen
#

By the gods

#

I just fought Charon and he threw me in front of Asterion

#

Literally one after another

tough bramble
#

Unlike hades

polar aspen
#

Thankfully Asterion isn't as tough lol

tough bramble
#

You mean asterius

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I think

#

Asterion is the vampire from bg3

polar aspen
tough bramble
#

True

polar aspen
#

Asterion is another name for the bull of Minos

tough bramble
#

But not ingame

#

Whatever

#

Trolled by charon

polar aspen
#

Not in game no, though the stories I am familiar with have used the name Asterion, so that is the name I use aswell

#

Charon's swing is so annoying

rustic vale
rustic vale
polar aspen
#

The only thing I bought at the shop was a little bit of darkness

#

It's all I could afford LOL

hardy parcel
#

They should've given heart options to alecto too

polar aspen
#

dammit i lost my streak

rustic vale
#

you just get less experience per run

#

It takes you longer to learn the gamr

polar aspen
#

on the plus side, i just completed my bond with achilles

lunar plume
#

Oooh, now I know why I hadn't the achievement for all keepsakes. Never would have expected to get a keepsake from HIM.

polar aspen
#

just messing no offense intended

lunar plume
#

just got the last keepsake ^^

polar aspen
#

oh xD

#

mb

hardy parcel
lunar plume
#

but I think I also just unlocked the possibility to bond with meg... I guess

polar aspen
#

rekindle that fire with your former flame

rustic vale
lunar plume
tardy nacelle
#

im having trouble catching legendary fish is there anything else to it besides "catch it in under 0.34 seconds"?

astral yacht
#

There's a trick to the timing. There are a max of 3 bobs. And a real splash doesn't follow after a longer period of time

rustic vale
#

So you only have to be locked in for a brief period after a fake bob

tardy nacelle
#

oh ok that helps

rustic vale
#

and yeah you can get faked out a max of 3 times

tardy nacelle
#

have you ever heard of anyone having problems with input delay?

rustic vale
#

No

tardy nacelle
#

its hard to test but i am pretty sure ive reacted in under 0.34 seconds on some occasions but perhaps i always got unlucky and rolled the rare fish?

rustic vale
#

50% of the time you get the rare fish so if you didn’t read the perfect catch text

tardy nacelle
#

damn might just start predicting the bobs man

rustic vale
#

You get it down to a science at some point

tardy nacelle
#

ive caught 52 fish already 💀

#

my reaction time is clearly cooked

rustic vale
#

Your ears often react faster than your eyes for most ppl

#

So sometimes I just home in for the specific real catch sound

tardy nacelle
#

i'll give it a go

#

thanks

rustic vale
tardy nacelle
#

i might try rebinding it to mouseclick and see if the stardew valley muscle memory kicks in

rustic vale
#

What’s it bound to by default for kbm?

vast raven
#

the fishing is just interact button so

rustic vale
cerulean galleon
#

0mg I love this game so much

tardy nacelle
#

legitimately think its the time it takes for me to press the keys

#

thats been stopping me so far

rustic vale
orchid elm
#

yall ready for a sad story,
I lost my hades save file.
My save where I got all the game done 🫠
and now I’m playing 2 missing tf out of than and the rest of the cast
all cause fkn Netflix took it off

#

my fault ig 🫤 but damn I miss those mfs

#

good bye forever save that got me though senior year of high school

round mural
#

Wait netflix is involved with hades?

orchid elm
#

yea they disturbed the mobile port for a bit

rustic vale
round mural
#

How do u even win like this

#

Btw i beat hades again

vast raven
#

bluetooth controller croven

round mural
#

This is funny how he has to go through all that just to continue his conversation with his mom

round mural
#

To attach your phone to

rustic vale
round mural
#

Yeah but they dont feel that nice imo

turbid meteor
#

How did I not know Orpheus did guitar tutorials 😭
https://youtu.be/dnq8dZYH_tg?si=fzOjbrUe6IjbgNEv

Watch our composer and audio director Darren Korb walk you through how to play 'Good Riddance' from the Hades Original Soundtrack on guitar! Includes tabs for each part of the song.

Guitar Tabs: https://supergiant.games/sheet-music
Learn "Lament of Orpheus" here: https://youtu.be/1vSeiLt-6II

Play Hades on PlayStation: http://supergiant.games/h...

▶ Play video
#

Pretty simple n fun song to play too

lunar plume
tardy nacelle
#

yeah apparently <0.34 seconds gives you a "perfect catch" otherwise you get a regular catch

#

perfect catch is split 50/50 chance for rare/legendary and regular catch is split 50/50 chance for common/rare

torn basalt
#

should I play hades 1

vast raven
#

yes

lunar plume
#

yes

turbid meteor
#

yes

fervent jewel
#

yes

tepid plover
#

Yes

lavish sorrel
#

Yes

astral yacht
#

I'm still missing a fish on my codex after 300 hours

zealous vessel
#

Is aspect of hades better than aspect of Achilles for non-cast orientated builds?

lavish sorrel
#

can't get flurry jab, thus clunkier and bad

zealous vessel
#

I see I see

lavish sorrel
#

spear as a whole benefits greatly from that hammer

zealous vessel
#

I pretty much never get flurry jab tbh, I’m never that lucky

#

99% of my spear runs are without flurry jab unfortunately

lavish sorrel
zealous vessel
lavish sorrel
lavish sorrel
#

as all hammers are equally likely, though some are mutually exclusive

zealous vessel
#

I hardly get it tho tbh

rustic vale
zealous vessel
#

Just don’t get it anyway

#

My luck is balls

rustic vale
#

Also

#

even without flurry jab

#

At least the achilles buff buffs your spins lmao

brisk trail
#

Should I buy "chthonic keys, fated" or "darkness, pitch black?'

lavish sorrel
#

keys

#

rerolls tend to be more impactful than +5 max hp

brisk trail
round mural
#

I beat hades 4 times

#

6 more to go

#

Gotta finish the story fr

lunar plume
#

Tried the pact with the timer first time. I was kinda afraid that it could become close in Elysium, but then I saw you get +9 for every region. So you have 36min for a run, not that hard after all. By the way I got my first sub20 run with that.

autumn jewel
#

nice that's like max tight deadline pace

lunar plume
#

Good thing is now i know I can take it for 1 heat everytime for sure :D

rustic vale
#

You’ll get to the point where you have 6 heat for free effectively

lunar plume
#

sub28 on the other hand seems also not that hard. At least without more extra heat that makes my runs longer

hardy parcel
#

heat 5 from the start gang

tired cipher
#

Hi little problem im new in the game (10hours) and im stucked to Hades. did someone have a technic for have stronger weapon or something like that ?

amber crest
rustic vale
#

to like

#

Sub16 pretty consistently soon enough

tired cipher
amber crest
rustic vale
#

I don’t think you need speedrunning basics for sub15 like

amber crest
#

Depends on the person imo

rustic vale
#

I was pretty casual when I got to like sub13 consistently

amber crest
#

I only got sub 14 after I learnt to pause

#

And then faster when I learnt to slowly optimise

tired cipher
#

sub 14 wtf ?

#

how

amber crest
rustic vale
#

sub14 ain’t allat

#

That’s almost 3x the record for anyheat

amber crest
tired cipher
#

what's heat ???

amber crest
#

You’ll learn that later

#

It’s smt u unlock after you beat dad

rustic vale
# tired cipher sub 14 wtf ?

experience, build knowledge, decision making, I also reckon that if you’re only 10 hours in you’re missing a lot of upgrades on your mirror

#

and work orders

#

and keepsake levels

amber crest
#

And a wholeeeee lotta grinding

tired cipher
#

so I need to farm the fragments ?

rustic vale
#

mechanical combat skillll

amber crest
tired cipher
#

the purple stone

rustic vale
#

You’ll get them naturally but yeah you do want those

#

just to get your foundational mirror stuff built out

tired cipher
#

oh okkay

amber crest
#

Ah, yeah you’ll get darkness over time

tired cipher
#

and I just discover demeter

#

and its the first time that I meet her

#

but its my 26 try

rustic vale
#

She can only notice you once you reach the surface so it’s not like you were super unlucky

tired cipher
#

I just reach the surface while fighting Hades

rustic vale
#

Yep

amber crest
#

If not even slightly faster. I’m unsure WHAT the average is

#

I beat Hades on my 27th

#

But the average i believe is around 35?

rustic vale
#

The average nowadays for first clear is like 20-80 attempts

tired cipher
#

hum in like youtuber video they really loosing against Hades 1st phase

#

but I first try it

#

without dying

rustic vale
#

Nice

amber crest
#

Good for you

lunar plume
#

I beat Hades somehwere on my early 30s. From what numbers I read here sometimes that seems average

amber crest
#

Average or slightly above average

rustic vale
#

see it’s like

#

Incredibly variable on prior gaming experience

amber crest
#

There’s such a range to it

tired cipher
#

hum so if demeter only spawn now is there god that spawn with special fonction ?

amber crest
#

I’ve seen one in 7, and I’ve seen one in 83

rustic vale
#

I say 20-80 is average for a reason tizomg

amber crest
#

But you’ve been here longer than I have

tired cipher
amber crest
#

Keepsakes

rustic vale
#

The upper bound is made up of people who this is like

amber crest
#

Wdym “summon”

rustic vale
#

the first video game of this caliber they’ve ever played or are mainly there for the story

rustic vale
tired cipher
#

uh

#

srry im bad in english

amber crest
#

You can summon Zeus, Poseidon, Athena, ares, Artemis, demeter, Aphrodite and Dionysus

rustic vale
#

There are the 8 regular olympians who give you boons, you can summon them all with keepsakes
Hermes is different, he works differently (the game doesn’t tell you this) but there is no way to force him to appear
Chaos can also give you boons, but he’s very different (I reckon you know that though)

amber crest
#

Demeter sucks so don’t summon her -j

tired cipher
amber crest
#

Hermes’ is a hammer with a face

rustic vale
#

The regular ones are summoned with their keepsakes (the items they give you when you gift them)

lunar plume
amber crest
amber crest
amber crest
#

There’s legitimately 1, maybe 2 of the 24 weapons in this game that legitimately will seek out Demeter, and even then they won’t take a core boon

tired cipher
#

im a spear main is it a good weapon ?

lunar plume
#

every weapon is good if you like it ^^

tired cipher
#

yes but I tried the mini gun and idk how it can be strong

amber crest
#

All the weapons are completely viable and strong in this game

amber crest
lunar plume
amber crest
#

First of all:
yes the spear is good, it’s my secondary.
Second of all, how good a weapon is heavily depends on how well it meshes with YOU. For example, I consider the shield to be the best weapon in the game, but I HATE using it. It took me after my 135th escape attempt to even beat the game with the shield.

tired cipher
amber crest
#

But the ‘mini gun’ (we call it the rail or the gun) can do unholy amounts of damage

tired cipher
#

but for Hades who's being very fast

#

its hard to hit him no ?

amber crest
#

Nope, the bullets are faster than he is

#

And rail users go into melee range anyway.
One thing you’ll learn is every weapon in Hades is a melee weapon

tired cipher
#

when you shoot can you moove meanwhile ?

amber crest
#

And that’s enough

tired cipher
#

oh okkay

#

have you beated the game with it ?

amber crest
#

I’ve beaten the game with every weapon dozens of times (except shield)

tired cipher
#

wow

amber crest
#

Ikr I need to get a life

tired cipher
#

but what"s heat

tired cipher
#

You have a good excuse if its Hades

amber crest
tired cipher
#

is it including the lore ?

amber crest
#

I can remove the lore bits

tired cipher
#

but remove the lore

amber crest
#

It’s basically a difficulty system where you can increase the difficulty of certain parts of the game (you heal for less, things move faster, you have to beat the game on a timer)

#

Which you unlock after beating Dad

tired cipher
#

is the 100% possible ?

amber crest
#

64 heat? Yes!

#

It’s been done

#

by three people ever

tired cipher
#

no way ?

lunar plume
#

possible is everything ^^

tired cipher
amber crest
#

Wdym?

#

It’s been verified if that’s what you mean

tired cipher
#

in steam

amber crest
#

It’s not necessary to get 100%

#

On steam

tired cipher
#

oh nice

amber crest
#

That would be ridiculous

tired cipher
#

and how much hour for have all the success ?

amber crest
vast raven
#

all the achievements are based on how the devs themselves did playing the game

#

last heat based achievement being 16, the last speed achievement being for sub 13(?)

#

(speed achievement in game rather for the end text)

amber crest
#

Oh I thought there’d be a 32 heat achievement considering that’s the last in game reward, or at least 20 cuz that’s the end of the bounties

vast raven
#

nope

amber crest
#

The more you know

amber crest
#

Zoomz

old bluff
#

I do think have made hermes jealous tho

#

that man refuses to fork over the rushy d when im on good pace :(

tough bramble
#

Yo sup

rustic vale
#

Where’s the stats table for rd

polar aspen
#

I love fighting Charon in tartarus

polar aspen
polar aspen
round mural
polar aspen
#

Mhm

round mural
#

"Borrow 300 coins"

polar aspen
#

So glad I managed to survive to seeing patroclus

#

Pppfftt I just picked up merciful end, and my two options for the next boon I pick up is Athena or Ares LOL

mint coral
#

Well do you have divine dash yet dusa

round mural
polar aspen
#

He wouldn't have taken the second if he didn't end up stunning me into one of his skull bubbles

#

Say does anybody know if you are only limited to a certain number of Gods per run

#

There are runs where I never run into Aphrodite

round mural
polar aspen
#

Personally I prefer her shot for hera bow

round mural
#

The rapid one?

polar aspen
#

Yeah

#

Where you stored your shot and then fire it all at once

mint coral
polar aspen
#

Possibly LOL

mint coral
#

God pool
When you take a boon from a new god they are added to a pool.
-this pool can contain 4 gods-
Chaos and Hermes boons don't count for this
Once 4 gods are taken in this pool, the rest will disappear from the run. (As a note, selling all boons from a god will not remove the god from your pool.

What this means for runs is that you have better chances at seeing the gods you do care about and their duos. Before the good pool is closed you have a 1 in 7* ||or 8 once demeter is unlocked|| to be the god you want, with the pool closed, you increase your chance to 1 in 4.

How to break god pool cap
-Using a god keepsake (keepsake of one of the main gods, forces next boon to be them) of a god not in pool will force the god regardless and add them to the pool.
-On occasions, you can enter a midshop with 3 gods, buy your 4th god and have a 5th god in the exit door
-enter the last area with 3 or less gods and every god could be offered

Note: Breaking the god cap is usually not that useful as it just means less chances to get who you want again but if you really need that duo/divine dash then it is an option.

polar aspen
#

I do know that there are item pools with which to pull the boons from I didn't know whether there was a specific limited amount

#

So there's a maximum of four gods that you can get boons from per run

#

That's all I needed to know LOL

mint coral
#

Hmhm

#

If you really need a god and already met the cap it can be good to know you can break it

polar aspen
#

I'd like to try doing a run where I only pick one God for the whole run

polar aspen
mint coral
#

Nope dusa

#

Selling all boons will not remove a god from the pool

#

God keepsakes will force the god regardless of cap and then will just keep them in your pool

polar aspen
#

I do know that you can get the same boon again once you sell it

polar aspen
#

I don't think I quite realized that

mint coral
polar aspen
#

Damn nice

#

At the moment I'm just doing keepsake grinding

mint coral
#

Have as much fun as you can with that

#

I never did it lmfao

polar aspen
#

I doubt its required for 100% but personally I feel I need to for my own personal 100%

mint coral
#

Is one of the steam achievements zagcry

polar aspen
#

Ah nice

mint coral
#

I got it on accident when loading the speedrun save file

#

Lol

polar aspen
#

Lol

#

Also I'm pretty sure but for the record it's impossible to find the Satyr sack first try right?

#

I wish there was a boon to make you immune to poison

vast raven
polar aspen
#

Probably a Dionysus thing

polar aspen
vast raven
#

fun fact, its actually weighted to 2 sack in terms of odds

mint coral
#

So many 1 sack believers lol

polar aspen
#

Would be neat if it was like a 1% chance

mint coral
#

As someone who speedran this game a lot unmodded, hell no

polar aspen
#

Lol

#

Fair enough

mint coral
#

Me when I finally get a run will my skips and builds and good minibosses and fail the 1%

polar aspen
#

I hate that big Satyr

mint coral
#

Big satyr is chill

#

Meg its ass

polar aspen
#

I always forget to use my God damn companion LOL

#

I completely forgot I had it until you just mentioned it

#

The only enemy that I actually remember to use it on is Hades himself

mint coral
#

Speedruns do make companions into your muscle memory

#

Turns out minibosses can't do anything without armor

polar aspen
#

Lol true

mint coral
#

(meg destroys the armor of every miniboss except two)

polar aspen
#

Does she really

mint coral
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Anthony the rat and the styx big laser

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(anthony is the big rat)

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You also have fancy set ups to hit stuff like all witches in asphodel's witches circle or the bombers in tartarus

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You can also hit both heroes with the hardest set up of all

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Start fight > hold up > summon

polar aspen
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How does Meg's line work exactly?

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Is it random or the dependent on where you're holding

mint coral
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Perpendicular from zag's shoulder

polar aspen
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So it creates a perpendicular line from what you're facing?

vast raven
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pretty much yeah

polar aspen
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Okay

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Thank you for letting me know

mint coral
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Actually is there a meg guide in speedcord
Oh was about to ping you frei lol

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Idk if a most updated one (if there's is) has been shared here

vast raven
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it targets the closest target to determine where exactly it places the meg as well

vast raven
polar aspen
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I love this sundial

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Lol

mint coral
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I wonder what hour it is!
(Clueless)

polar aspen
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Lol

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The head chef has been on a streak lately

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Gods I just want dusa to be happy

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The keepsakes I have left to complete

  • level 2 sysiphus
  • level 1 eurydice
  • Level 1 Patroclus
  • Level 1 hades
  • level 1 zeus
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And then I just need to grind the Ambrosia to increase the companions and finish my bonds

vast raven
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not having zeus maxed out

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has to be like, a crime lwk

polar aspen
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He was actually the last keepsake I got LOL

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Intentionally mind you

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For the sake of how I feel zagreus would care for Zeus least of the Gods

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I was basically playing that a bit in character, but I also was intentionally delaying the story

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I knew the story would eventually continue when I got all the keepsakes and I just figured I'd wait a while before continuing with the story

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Also am I just not getting something, why do Achilles and patroclus give you an ant

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The others I get

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Although I'm not sure what companion Delta is since I haven't managed to unlock him yet for some reason

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Man therws two fish I'm missing

mint coral
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Are they the chaos fish

polar aspen
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One chaos one surface

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Complete opposite ends

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My man got steamed

polar aspen
amber crest
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Enemies usually have more armour than health, and removing armour weakens them

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So stripping armour is rlly important

round mural
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I killed hades like 5 times why cant he just let me pass

round mural
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Yeah when i beat him

amber crest
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So what’s the problem

round mural
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He should give up 😅

torn basalt
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this is called hades, why don't I play as hades

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why am I this guy

amber crest
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Cuz it’s set in Hades

lean bobcat
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Last I played my original Hades file was 2 years ago. Beat Hades main story again after only 19 runs on Hell Mode. I guess I still got it

amber crest
torn basalt
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is it impossible

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or later I can play

round mural
torn basalt
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sure

torn basalt
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and hades 2 should be called melinoe

round mural
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Didnt get to hades 2 yet i still need to beat the final boss 5 more times

amber crest
torn basalt
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if I can't play as hades

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then why call it hades

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please I want to be hades

amber crest
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CUZ ITS IN HADES

round mural
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Yes

rustic vale
amber crest
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Hades is the underworld

torn basalt
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BUT THERE IS A PERSON CALLED HADES

rustic vale
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Hades do be the name for the underworld

torn basalt
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WHY CAN YOU NOT PLAY AS HIM

round mural
rustic vale
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I wonder why

round mural
torn basalt
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I don't care

amber crest
round mural
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If the game let us play as hades i would let myself be killed by zagreus

torn basalt
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why

rustic vale
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Lowkey did you look at anything about the game prior to purchase like

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I’m a little interested how you ended up in this situation

torn basalt
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I didn't want to be spoiled

rustic vale
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what were you expecting the game to even be?