#h1-discussion
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Bonk
Aphrodite or Artemis attack
i mean for hammers
also does anyone know tue damage resist Arthur aura gives you
if i use sword it’s posiden
I use nemesis
w
Poseidons also really fun
I use it with lightning phalanx.
If I’m feeling memeyuse it with Artemis to rush mirage shot.
I know it’s not good, but it’s the best way to make artemis attack work.
YO goated pick
I also like using it with Achilles, but this is easier.
Tbf, I use every cast with Achilles
Ngl for acchiles i really love sea storm
That’s my build for when I’m speedrunning
pos special and dash, zeus on the other 3
But for casual play, I like using trippy shot, ice wine and mirage shot (gamblin)
It’s not optimal, but it’s fun as hell
big number=funni
like level 12 heroic trippy flare loaded into a beowulf shield
its truly peak
I can’t use the shield lol
i mainly use shield and fists
for me its Gilagamesh, Demeter, Zag, The trash one
Wait from best to worse or worst to best
thats my favorite to least favorite
Well at least we can both agree Talos is GARBAGE
i find gilgamesh VERY fun
I personally don’t love Gilgamesh, but I respect the pick.
when i get its special hammer
Ok now THATS good
without… i perfer demeter
(Demeter is still better imo tho)
Either way Demeter is till more fun FOR ME
I respect the Gilgamesh pick tho
1 thing i will never respect tho
Aspect of hades users
you aint him
your not the goat
I will never respect that one person that once told me to play super soaker fists.
as long as you play hera you have my respect
I play Hera sometimes does that count?
yes
Does anyone know the. Best playstyle with the hidden aspect of the first weapon?
What first weapon
Do you use it with dio?
Is there a reason why people use aspect of Achilles but don’t even use the special? I see all the people using flurry strike on it, which is fair cuz it’s strong as hell, but why do they all specifically run Achilles spear but not even use the one thing the spear changes? I feel like I’m missing something
This is just based off the runs and build guides I’ve seen btw
No the hidden aspect Arthur
Yooo, so I just cleared a daimond bounty, it gave me the diamond and all in the run but when I died and came back to the lobby I had no diamond...
Is that a common glitch or just unlucky?
They use the special
Every Achilles user uses the special
They incorporate it into their rotation (double dash strike, special. Vary depending on context)
Achilles has no way of upgrading its special damage, but the ability to hyper-boost its next four attacks/casts is extraordinarily powerful
And flurry jab is just so ungodly broken that it’s a must use on Achilles
So in short, they use both! Special to boost the attack, attack to deal ungodly damage
That’s… not normal. You sure you picked up the diamond? Or that it’s not there?
Like, the Hidden Aspect, or the swords first aspect?
Aspect of Arthur or nemesis?
Hidden one Arthur
I just got it
Alr thanks
yeah pretty sure, i had been waiting to get a total of 2 so i could make an upgrade but when i got back i still had 1 lmao, probably won't happen again if it's not a known bug
So you have a giant wall of deflection, and with the duo it gives you crit too.
Never heard of it happening, sounds unlucky
diamonds are almost infinite anyway so i won't be lovked oht of anything, jyst gonna take slightly longer now
Giant wall of deflection?
The attack is just slow high damaging attacks
Oh I didn't know that
If you have Athena on it, you can clear every projectile somewhat ahead of you and deflect it
That being said, be wary that this is genuinely the clunkiest aspect in the game imo. So keep space between you and your opponent.
But isn't the sword like mid to close range
Yeah, this one’s just mid ranges
If you’re too close, you risk getting interrupted
Of course, you’re still a melee weapon, so stay relatively near them
But you don’t have to hug them
Alright thanks dude this is gonna help alot 😃
Hope you enjoy it!
-# cuz I certainly don’t
You can do like 500 damage per aphro cast
I got a common boon yeah lmfao
Would it be unusual to see the credits roll but still not used ambrosia? I have that stuff so long but still no one ever asked for it.
Its gonna take a while
But once you get smtn that costs ambrosia you will burn through most of it
You don’t get asked for it, you gift it
The game asks you to gift it though ^^
Tru that
Okay so let’s say I get flurry strike, what sort of combos do I do? I just like to have an order of attack chains so I know I’m being optimal
In the instance of a lack of flurry strike, how can I made the build strong?
Also what kind of boons do I look for?
Attack and dash strike spam, similar to the fists. Just remember to special every chance you get if you don’t have the buff up.
Just having Zeus attack and Poseidon strike will still make it strong, just not exceptional. I’d recommend making it a castpect at that point (my fav way to build it)
- The only boon I consistently take is Poseidon dash
3.5) depends on your build
Well, I should correct myself
Artemis attack is often good too
Not just Zeus
I’m actually not sure which is better
No effing way
Non heavy knuckle Fists and non Hestia rail exists
I’ve not tried it on those Tbf
Depends on your build
Castpect or standard?
(Standard being not cast focus)
Tho that’s not the best term for it
Standard
For example, hunting blades is very good
So is ice wine
So is mirage shot for either of the ones above
So is scintillating feast
Oh my
Standard doesn’t need much
Literally like 3 boons
(Attack, dash, another boon that could help depending on attack)
Oh, and call is great for obvious reasons
Yeeee
I’ve got Artemis on attack and dash damage rn
Might go for some Aphrodite for the special?
Artemis dash ain’t great
But we work with what we can have.
Go castpect
Grab ares cast and rush hunting blades
Good luck
Anyway gtg sleep
Alr alr
Hey chat, I'm going on a stretch herez but am I the only one who sees an apple in eris gun, especially knowing eris story
of course not
crush shot is the correct hera build
Whats that from
aphrodite
Raw damage + wallbug + it doesn’t take 8 years to drop like dio
dio is usable on hera it’s just more highroll because you want to run stygian soul for rechargeable casts
and then need to find casts from chaos and wells
or play hera like bad zag bow with sometimes having a cast button you press
It’s like zagbow with raw burst damage instead of crit chance
at least zagbow’s damage potential isnt fallen off by taking ri3
This is only a real concern at like
55 heat no?
55+
depends on pact but could technically be at 50 too
but yeah more so a 55+ type of thing
hera cant do dc so its top end with sd is 58 w/ ability to do casts still (60 is doable, just you ignore aspect)
Pseudotech makes 64 doable trust
has 60 been done though like
or is chiron the only non-rama bow with 60
atm
It hasn’t yet
That’s so cursed
I finally used my first ambrosia. My first bond was with... drum roll Charon. Of course it had to be the one you are talking the least with ^^
tidal dash makes all aspect 64 doable 
nasty dash with 30 poms makes every aspect 64 doable
hey guys,this aint really a Hades question,but since Hades 2 has yet to come to console I decided I wanna try some other SG games,I wanna buy either Bastion or Pyre.Now I did fnish Hades 1,even platinumed it so im just asking are they worth getting?is the gameplay anything like Hades? I trust SG enough on all other aspects
The other ssg games are different genres and game styles iirc
take a gander at the advertisements
Thanks man,will do.I have a fairly low end laptop and I said wth why not try it😅 thamks again
Yay, got my first sword win. That also means no no heat run anymore 
And also got my first secret aspect (spear)
grinding darkness rn
got +130% darkness TWICE from chaos, a +95% from chaos, and i got +20% from dark thirst
i got 2690 from that run alone holy luck
and i didnt even get the posiden boon that would of given me more
what do you need all that darkness for?
infinity theme and resource manager
aka COSMETIC CHANGES
yippie (I lack a life, social or otherwise)
haha, no worries we all got our goals
If you’re shooting for high resource director ranks like
By the time you get Unseen One (the very last one), you’ll have spent 325k darkness and like pocket change of every other resource
on the resource director
Just to be sure: A Victory streak doesn't give you anything, right?
1 or 2 dialogue lines at most
maybe
no real mechanical value and it doesn’t push any character story forward
good, then I dont need to think about it too much
yeah the one im shooting for i need 135k darkness
unseen dusk
I almost beat zagreus's dad twice today
I've seen people on reddit hype up Athena's dash and I feel like i use it wrong cause I don't like it that much lol.
It feels really situational for me compared to the other dashes
?
I mean, it does have a copypasta due to how much is glazed but is damn good for a reason
Is just extra safety on a dash
Most often you either take hers or pos if you want dmg
also considering how eh the other dashes are lmao
like it always does something in every run
especially in projectile heavy rooms
I find that I lean too much on it. I tend to dash-strike through an attack, which works fine with athena but costs me a lot of life with everything else
since you usually dash a lot, there is also a good chance to reflect "accidentally" with athena dash
I beat the final boss on 2hp 0 death defiances 😭
Victory screen cosmetics
Thank you for letting me know, I like to talk to everyone before I start a run in case anyone has new dialogue
Oh I was wondering what dat was
(and i have two of them 🫣 )
aren’t you like one of two people with a sub6 gilga whatsoever 
The Gilgamesh runner
yeah i have reccy and a second one that has the best build i've ever had
but not a lot of the worse aspects have multiple sub 6s (and 3 on record with gilga)
but yknow, fist gang goes hard
Also I can still give the gods ambrosia and fill their hearts even after invites yes?
yep the story doesnt ever interupt or stop any event zag can do
Okay good thank you
I still have a few gods to go
Haven't been unlocked aphrodite or hermes
ex: on my main file i still have skelly new skelly dialogue that i have refused to interact with
Lol
same with nyx, achilles, dusa, thanatos, and one other iirc
hey guys
Hey
i just realized i need to beat hades 10 times to get the other endings lol
I beat him once
I fought him with the shield once
It blocks i give it that but the damage isnt that good
You can probably block the beam attack in phase 2 without taking cover with the shield
Well mine had captain america, I kept bouncing it off the walls at hades
Oh thats cool lol
So I recently finally got the choice to fight Charon
Not sure if i should go for hades 2 or try to beat him 9 more times ☠️
Lost horribly cause I wasn't rocking a good setup anyway
It took me a long time to beat him once
How many attempts?
40 i think but there are attempts that i gave up a lot so i dont think those count
Well, idk about attempts I gave up, but the attempt number in-game for my first win is like, 21/22
Wait ill check idk the attempts honestly
I don't think the game counts attempts you give up cause it straightup doesn't save your progress if you give up
32 it says
Ahhhh
Idk if either of our numbers are high or low
Like in a "typically people get their first won run after X attempts" way
The story is so damn long 😅
What if you do beat it 9 times what happens then
Idk, story stuff
I'm at 9 wins so I need that 10th
But it's fun
All the interpersonal relationships
I assume you just play runs forever after 10 clears
Yeah, 'tis the nature of rougelikes
Yup great game
As someone who played a lot of Isaac it was the same there too
Balatro is the same you just keep playing forever after beating the 10 main levels
I'm just not sure how much I'll play this game before moving onto H2
Already poured over 27 hours into it according to Steam
It took me much more hours than that to beat hades once
Oh wow
There are runs where i just had bad luck with my build and runs where i just got greedy against him
Tbh I always did kinda lock in during the final boss, it's just that earlier on I had sub-par builds that mean I just could not survive long enough
For morbillion hours
I bet hades 2 is the same thing but instead of escaping it's something else
I'm just wondering how H2 compares to H1 in terms of scale/amount of content
Gameplay is different enough
from what I’ve heard
Sort, of, there are various measures for 100% completion though even people going for this will generally leave off attempting max heat because that's a hard-as-balls superchallenge that idk if has actually even been done legitimately.
Without measuring it by challenge runs you can basically get ~100% content (save idk maybe some dialogue options) by maxing all relationships, doing all prophecies, filling the Codex, buying all the stuff at the Contractor, and getting the random stuff from the Resource director, getting all the rewards up through 20 heat (the cap) for each weapon, maxing out your keepsakes and companions, and getting at least 1 32 Heat run to get the statue associated, getting all of which will take at least 126 wins and idk how many total runs.
The fact that if you include run rewards in 100% completion this demands 126 wins is funny though, heh
"As he explores the wonders of the world, Prince Zagreus discovers a quaint farm, in which he carelessly trespasses, stepping on a farming-tool, which swoops up and strikes him in the forehead, fatally."
...I just got looney tune raked...
"He cannot kill me like this every time, believes the Underworld Prince. He shall eventually have no more ideas. But the Prince, as often is the case, is wrong."
... I'm going to kill both zagreus and this narrator LOL
I love the narrator and all his other roles
This, but for several more minutes
Yeah i've seen people with over a thousand hours on this game they have probably been doing that
Also the game has gorgeous visuals as well especially when you reach the surface
the people with thousands of hours are probably grinding speedruns or high heat runs lol
a lot and for way less storage space too which prob reasonable since the dev team got better at optimization
So… I have killed more than 10k enemies (it’s more than 20k) but I don’t get the option to unlock Ares’ 7th heart (I do have Ambrosia in my inventory)
We, at time of writing, have reason to believe there are three legitimate unmodded unseeded 64 heat clears. One by AngeL1C with Zeus shield, one by a chinese player I thus don't have the keyboard to type the name out (but often goes by "bai") again with Zeus shield, and one by PlayAd using Rama bow. Additionally, there are also over a dozen 64 wins using the speedrunning modpack. No signs of cheating were detected, and that's as good of a standard we can reasonably ask for when it comes to legitimacy.
Is Zeus shield like broken or something
Might have to give it a go
Watching the angel run rn
Widely considered the most reliable and safest heat aspect, yes
Not nearly as strong as Rama in terms of damage, but very safe
coincidentally I used zeus shield in my last run for the first time. At some time it did nothing and sometimes I was surprised how much damage it did to an enemy ^^
I recently read somehwere you can just give up if the first boon is not what you want. But I get the same choices everytime. So how does that work? (I want Zeus attack)
giving up seeds your run as the game gives you a new run seed after you die, not after giving up though
only way to re-randomize options is via a run death
Yeah gotta die
Damn
It doesn’t
You can swap keepsakes though and you’ll have the exact same options (with the same rarities if the keepsakes are equal level)
What I find strange is that last time (another run) I wanted Zeus attack for my fists I got the exact same three choices. Is that just pure coincidence?
pure concidence
That means if it offered me for example dash, I can take athena keepsake and get guaranteed athena dash?
No
Wait im actually not sure nvm
Athena dash is overrated anyway and I dont like cheesing

Yes
divine dash is not a reason you would do this
Lotta work just to get a core boon
damn, my first loss after 9 wins
It makes more sense if you’re like
starting a run and you see that the strike boon is epic so you swap to a merciful end build
Right, but divine dash 😐
Lotta work to get the Best Dash In The Game That 8.5 Is A Little Low For ™

Crazy spoilers
I miss stickybot
?
On god
<@&456908176877551658> pls
Sticky bot my homie
Ay, if y'all are gonna get crusty with me off my first message, y'all can save it.
You just came to the h1 channel and spoiled h2 lmao, wdym
Spoiling a game that's already out?
Please put a spoiler tag on your message
Yes keep in mind that this is the channel for the first game that people may be just getting into now
that also works
Spoiler tagging is at least courteous
Aaaaaaaaaaand I was talking about H1
Yikes, all this off my very first message
What a trip
Oo, your indifference makes you SO cool, lmfao
I would've at least

What a crap attitude.
Sure bud
Thanks for the warm welcome, lmfao
Youre welcome 💖
Stay crusty, lmfao.... Just remember therapy is excellent.
Nah im fine 🙂
I can't tell, lmfao
I come in saying one thing, excited to share, and y'all are having an anyeurism over it.
Thats fine I guess, doesnt really bother me
Trying to convince me, or yourself?
It was fine really you didn't have to make it all this over it
Sure
Projecting and everything
Not sure why you can't listen to the mods rather than overreacting
You sure are
If I apologize would it help
Rawkfist, you were asked to put a spoiler tag on the message. That’s all. It’s quite reasonable to ask for spoiler tags if you’re talking about the endgame of a sequel that hasn’t been out very long.
I noted the mods' suggestions. I'm just clapping back on people that respond to excited sharing with crusty attitutdes, like that's cool but what I said isn't.
want an apology or not
not really since i didnt do nothing but point out the obvious
OK, then save it.
👍
I just know that this community, by my first impression, is incredibly testy and touchy.
🤣
Moving swiftly on
Alright. Now that we have this sorted I’m asking for a topic change, please; if you wanted to discuss the original idea further, Rawkfist, I’d suggest #h2-discussion might actually be the better place
ill be there, would love to talk about it like i said earlier
Discussing potential H1 DLC in an H2 venue just doesn't make sense to me.
But I suppose it's whatever.

Keep mocking me, dude
Do not.
Like, do y'all even WANT to welcome me at this point? Because it sure seems pretty hostile here.
after hades 1 got its final update, sgg put out a statement saying it would be the very last. That's not set in stone but at least an update or DLC is incredibly unlikely.
Anyway
Anyway, Hades ONE. Great game.
All because my very first message wasn't to someone's liking.
i wish i could experience this game again for the first time
greatest experience ever
I feel like you aren't understanding the issue, my guy. Even if it is something you want to see for H1 you're basing it on major spoilers from H2 and then complaining that people are upset
Please move on
It really is. It was the first early access game I played AND I played it from day 1, it was really once in a lifetime
Yes, I'm just a raging jerk because I misstepped with my very first message in the server
Y'all take this far too seriously.
is has to be ragebait at this point you was asked to move on like 3 times now
I politely request the mods actually time this person out
Hundreds of runs later i still did not get bored LOL even tho i didnt get super into challenge runs i had fun with it
My point is the response didn't match the "offense". Not by a long shot.
h2 combat spoiled me it rlly feels better to play but I do need to finish the h2 story 😔
yeah the combat is good
but even after a couple of h2 runs, i still come back to this
idk if its nostalgia or what
Question about boons - if I sell a hermes boon, will i still get a chance for 2 other hermes boons prior to styx?
No
Or, uh, the correct answer is "selling doesn't affect that"
It’s not my absolute favorite of sg games (everyone play transistor Now) but it’s incredible and like
The community sure is bigger LOL
for me it is, since im here mostly for the roguelike
i played a bit of pyre but cant say i liked it that much
and the rest just dont look appealing to me
I loveeee visual novels and it’s the first sg game I was there for the release of so it was even more special
(And it had preorders which is kind of funny in retrospect)
yueah thats it, im here for gameplay, the story is but a nice bonus
I played it in one go 😭 it really was like “one more game mom then I’m going to bed” and 15 hours later ‘twas completed
It definitely has the snappiest combat but I rlly like that every game feels like a new combination with everything from past games
yup
does transistor hold up to replays?
uhhhh I don’t know if it holds up for more than like, 3?? Depending what you want to get out of it
But I love it and I like replaying it when I feel like I can’t play anything else. So I think my hours are approaching 150 if not past that 
It’s like 3 hours when you already know the game and kinda “rush it” but a normal playthrough will still be short enough. Less than 10 hours for a first playthrough for sure
Oh. Yeah I guess
Why does Achilles do this little animation where it looks like he's grabbing his head/face?
Idle animation
He's got a headache
As someone who’s been in a teaching/instructional position
that’s just how it is
Paracetamol for Achilles 💔
Finally beat the tutorial (got my 10th win and the credits)
Also got the hidden aspect for the bow and I kinda love it
It’s pretty sweet
I got Triple Shot and like
Idk what it's called but it's the hammer upgrade where your shots ricochet to multiple targets
Cleared crowds so fast
And the Special on this aspect is literally just bonus damage
chain shot
Yeah, that
One of the few effective damage multipliers fr fr
took me almost 20hrs for my first escape on hellmode blind
did it with the bow as well xd
I just started my newest session of keepsake grinding and Athena decided to give me an epic Divine flourish, doubling my special damage immediately at the start of the run
That’s pretty neat
And an epic greatest reflex coming out of Tartarus so I get five dashes total
Or I could go with epidc side hustle for 16 coins a chamber
Went with side hustle
does anyone else always kill asterius first?
Always
Asterion is easier to deal with than Theseus.
Asterion a close fighter whereas you have to deal with Theseus throwing his spear
Theseus is both easier to avoid since you can get the spear throw timing down, and way worse to deal with on his second half if the bull is still running.
That too lol
I've had a couple runs where I killed them both at the same time. Both hitting their second phase together lol
Same, insane dps runs go hard
oops
Yeah lol plus Theseus kept trying to swing at me instead of throwing
I tried it exactly one time to kill Theseus first to see what it would be like
Really the game encourages you so much to start with the bull. Even the mini boss phase does.
This is particularly easy to do with Meg and Than companions.
Mostly Meg.
Funny thing is I usually forget to use my companions
I can guess why it’s only once
Did you unlock them recently? I did too initially.
I mean kinda? I have 5 of them unlocked but I suppose relatively speaking from my 106 runs.. I've had them for about.. 30 or so
The only boss I remember to use it on is hades himself lol
It took my 50 runs to consistently use it every run
Mostly cuz I didn’t want to interrupt Dusa from doing her job
I know I love her so much
I don’t keepsake grind at all lol
I'm doing it for 100%
Even if it's not required I would like to for personal 100%
It flies over a lot of people’s heads
Mm
At least hats the way my mind went with it
That’s fair lol it took me a while too
And the brains always gonna come up with an explanation for everything
Overthinking and under thinking go brrrr
this yeah
I'm now a Delta Warden!
Wahoo!
- shade```
My guy.. she floating right behind you.
I just realized the narrator is Homer xD
Was waiting for it
I thought melinoe was zagreas daughter with like artemis or something
i guess i was wrong
Oof lol
I never see the two any more than Artemis having a small crush on Zagreus because they're closer in age, relatively speaking
yeahh
i did the whole artemis storyline early and first few hearts seemed like it was leading somwhere
then nothing much
Nah
could be meg or alecto too tbh
Never felt like zagreus felt that way for Artemis as he does for dusa or meg
the especially you and lady artemis mightve thrown me off
Even with offer her ambrosia felt more like him playing to her emotions to get on her good side ykmow
thats fair
getting further into the story i realize he doesnt really care too much for the olympians
I mean he never really knew them so he doesnt really know what to think of them yet
yep yep
i do feel like most of the gods are kinda awful tho
even artemis too sometimes
out of the olympians hermes might be the most chill out of a mortal perspective
at first i thought his boons were sht but after a while i realized some are kinda op
Artemis is just kinda the outcast of the family, she doesn't want to be involved in her family drama and I get it
me frfr
on another subject
just me or does aphrodite feel kinda useless in hellmode
I'm not that familiar with hell mode have t really tried it yet
And her +% damage is still crazy
hellmode forces you to have hl1/js1/cp1/lc1 on and a unique
i usually put her boon on my main atk if it comes up
It only forces +20% damage you should be fine
Isnt hellmode just normal mode with prebuilt pacts?
What boon automatically activates reaction boons again
I saw someone try an idle build where they could just stand next to hades and do nothing and win lol
Ares + Zeus name is escaping me
Forces the 4 I mentioned plus a hellmode specific option
It really just makes it take longer for a new player to learn the game ngl 
Vengeful mood
Non sequitur
I wish zagreus would stop saying "sorry?" Whenever he "borrows" Charon's money
And I wish he'd say "hey Charon, want to fight?" More often
Powerscaling fr fr
Business partners with Hermes
Zag never actually vanquishes Charon unlike Dad
By the gods
I just fought Charon and he threw me in front of Asterion
Literally one after another
Because he gives up
Unlike hades
Thankfully Asterion isn't as tough lol
That's Astarion
True
Asterion is another name for the bull of Minos
Well yes
But not ingame
Whatever
Trolled by charon
Not in game no, though the stories I am familiar with have used the name Asterion, so that is the name I use aswell
Charon's swing is so annoying
👍
Lmao shop -> forced miniboss room
The only thing I bought at the shop was a little bit of darkness
It's all I could afford LOL
i felt this, it was more a grind to get mirror upgrades. I haven't played on normal but I feel it would take me just a couple attempts to escape
They should've given heart options to alecto too
dammit i lost my streak
Even beyond that, between extra enemies, extra damage and less healing
you just get less experience per run
It takes you longer to learn the gamr
on the plus side, i just completed my bond with achilles
Oooh, now I know why I hadn't the achievement for all keepsakes. Never would have expected to get a keepsake from HIM.
..i.. im sorry? you never tried to bond with your instructor lol
just messing no offense intended
lol no, my sentence had no connection to yours :D
just got the last keepsake ^^
frfr, getting 5 crystals per chamber is insane
but I think I also just unlocked the possibility to bond with meg... I guess
ayy nice
rekindle that fire with your former flame
I mean I’d assume looking at your keepsake box and noticing one was still missing would do the trick
There wasn't something missing, I think Persephone was the last "?" there to see for me.
im having trouble catching legendary fish is there anything else to it besides "catch it in under 0.34 seconds"?
There's a trick to the timing. There are a max of 3 bobs. And a real splash doesn't follow after a longer period of time
real bobs can only occur within 1-2 seconds of the last one while fake bobs are 2-4 or 5
So you only have to be locked in for a brief period after a fake bob
oh ok that helps
and yeah you can get faked out a max of 3 times
have you ever heard of anyone having problems with input delay?
No
its hard to test but i am pretty sure ive reacted in under 0.34 seconds on some occasions but perhaps i always got unlucky and rolled the rare fish?
The game tells u if it’s a perfect catch but also yeah
50% of the time you get the rare fish so if you didn’t read the perfect catch text
damn might just start predicting the bobs man
You get it down to a science at some point
If you need to
Your ears often react faster than your eyes for most ppl
So sometimes I just home in for the specific real catch sound
I’ve had mixed reviews for this one over the years but there’s no reason to not give it a fair shot I don’t think
i might try rebinding it to mouseclick and see if the stardew valley muscle memory kicks in
What’s it bound to by default for kbm?
E
the fishing is just interact button so
Never used kbm when I got Hades on steam ngl
0mg I love this game so much
this worked immediately
legitimately think its the time it takes for me to press the keys
thats been stopping me so far
Ayyy
yall ready for a sad story,
I lost my hades save file.
My save where I got all the game done 🫠
and now I’m playing 2 missing tf out of than and the rest of the cast
all cause fkn Netflix took it off
my fault ig 🫤 but damn I miss those mfs
good bye forever save that got me though senior year of high school

Dammit
Wait netflix is involved with hades?
yea they disturbed the mobile port for a bit
It previously had a Hades port for mobile
Hades on mobile doesnt seem nice
How do u even win like this
Btw i beat hades again
bluetooth controller 
This is funny how he has to go through all that just to continue his conversation with his mom
Ig it works if u have a handheld console
To attach your phone to
Otherwise touch screen controls
Yeah but they dont feel that nice imo
How did I not know Orpheus did guitar tutorials 😭
https://youtu.be/dnq8dZYH_tg?si=fzOjbrUe6IjbgNEv
Watch our composer and audio director Darren Korb walk you through how to play 'Good Riddance' from the Hades Original Soundtrack on guitar! Includes tabs for each part of the song.
Guitar Tabs: https://supergiant.games/sheet-music
Learn "Lament of Orpheus" here: https://youtu.be/1vSeiLt-6II
Play Hades on PlayStation: http://supergiant.games/h...
Pretty simple n fun song to play too
That explains why I always get the same fish. Didn't knew you had to be fast for some fishes (I think I have a few rare ones though)
yeah apparently <0.34 seconds gives you a "perfect catch" otherwise you get a regular catch
perfect catch is split 50/50 chance for rare/legendary and regular catch is split 50/50 chance for common/rare
should I play hades 1
yes
yes
yes
yes
Yes
Yes
I'm still missing a fish on my codex after 300 hours
Is aspect of hades better than aspect of Achilles for non-cast orientated builds?
can't get flurry jab, thus clunkier and bad
I see I see
spear as a whole benefits greatly from that hammer
I pretty much never get flurry jab tbh, I’m never that lucky
99% of my spear runs are without flurry jab unfortunately
(to nuance this, guan yu does very well at high heat, but that's for a different reason)
Don’t have access to that one, for whatever reason it’s locked
this is unlikely to be an accurate recollection of events
Obviously
as all hammers are equally likely, though some are mutually exclusive
I hardly get it tho tbh
If you ever take a spin hammer you can’t find flurry jav
Yeee ik
Just don’t get it anyway
My luck is balls
Should I buy "chthonic keys, fated" or "darkness, pitch black?'

Tried the pact with the timer first time. I was kinda afraid that it could become close in Elysium, but then I saw you get +9 for every region. So you have 36min for a run, not that hard after all. By the way I got my first sub20 run with that.
nice that's like max tight deadline pace
Good thing is now i know I can take it for 1 heat everytime for sure :D

You’ll get to the point where you have 6 heat for free effectively
Because I get sub20 consistently? I doubt that.
sub28 on the other hand seems also not that hard. At least without more extra heat that makes my runs longer
heat 5 from the start gang
Hi little problem im new in the game (10hours) and im stucked to Hades. did someone have a technic for have stronger weapon or something like that ?
Hello! What you’re experiencing is quite common.
My tips are:
Learn a good build if you haven’t already
Play patiently
Stick near the boulders in the arena for shelter and to force Hades to walk around to hit you.
You’ll get there
to like
Sub16 pretty consistently soon enough
yes I know I first try the first phase 10minute ago but I died just at the start of the 2nd phase
Then learn the very basics of speed running (really, the basics of tight deadlines ie. pausing the screen before choices) and sub 15 is pretty doable
I don’t think you need speedrunning basics for sub15 like
Depends on the person imo
I was pretty casual when I got to like sub13 consistently
I only got sub 14 after I learnt to pause
And then faster when I learnt to slowly optimise
Ouch. That happens to most of us
Both Shackle and I are amateur speed runners. We both go sub 9s (he has sub 8)
what's heat ???
experience, build knowledge, decision making, I also reckon that if you’re only 10 hours in you’re missing a lot of upgrades on your mirror
and work orders
and keepsake levels
And a wholeeeee lotta grinding
so I need to farm the fragments ?
mechanical combat skillll
Fragments?
the purple stone
You’ll get them naturally but yeah you do want those
just to get your foundational mirror stuff built out
oh okkay
Ah, yeah you’ll get darkness over time
and I just discover demeter
and its the first time that I meet her
but its my 26 try
She can only notice you once you reach the surface so it’s not like you were super unlucky
I just reach the surface while fighting Hades
Yep
Oh then you’re on average rate you’re fine
If not even slightly faster. I’m unsure WHAT the average is
I beat Hades on my 27th
But the average i believe is around 35?
The average nowadays for first clear is like 20-80 attempts
hum in like youtuber video they really loosing against Hades 1st phase
but I first try it
without dying
Nice
Good for you
I beat Hades somehwere on my early 30s. From what numbers I read here sometimes that seems average
Average or slightly above average
There’s such a range to it
hum so if demeter only spawn now is there god that spawn with special fonction ?
I’ve seen one in 7, and I’ve seen one in 83
I say 20-80 is average for a reason 
Like Hermes’?
I’ve actually only seen 1 above 70 and it’s that one
But you’ve been here longer than I have
Idk how to summonhermes and other god
Keepsakes
The upper bound is made up of people who this is like
the first video game of this caliber they’ve ever played or are mainly there for the story
You cannot
You can summon Zeus, Poseidon, Athena, ares, Artemis, demeter, Aphrodite and Dionysus
There are the 8 regular olympians who give you boons, you can summon them all with keepsakes
Hermes is different, he works differently (the game doesn’t tell you this) but there is no way to force him to appear
Chaos can also give you boons, but he’s very different (I reckon you know that though)
Demeter sucks so don’t summon her -j
how ?
how to summoner her ? I don't like her power
Hermes’ is a hammer with a face
The regular ones are summoned with their keepsakes (the items they give you when you gift them)
I think especially at his stage demeter is decent. It can really help to slow down enemies ^^
Select a god’s keepsake (the thing they give you when gifted nectar) and the next god boon you get will be from them
It’s decent, but there’s almost always better options
ohhhh okkay
There’s legitimately 1, maybe 2 of the 24 weapons in this game that legitimately will seek out Demeter, and even then they won’t take a core boon
im a spear main is it a good weapon ?
every weapon is good if you like it ^^
yes but I tried the mini gun and idk how it can be strong
All the weapons are completely viable and strong in this game
This is legitimately one of the better responses to the question I’ve seen
And thats an aspect (pun intended) I really like about this game
First of all:
yes the spear is good, it’s my secondary.
Second of all, how good a weapon is heavily depends on how well it meshes with YOU. For example, I consider the shield to be the best weapon in the game, but I HATE using it. It took me after my 135th escape attempt to even beat the game with the shield.
yes but the shield have a protection comparated to the mini gun
But the ‘mini gun’ (we call it the rail or the gun) can do unholy amounts of damage
Nope, the bullets are faster than he is
And rail users go into melee range anyway.
One thing you’ll learn is every weapon in Hades is a melee weapon
when you shoot can you moove meanwhile ?
You can dash
And that’s enough
I’ve beaten the game with every weapon dozens of times (except shield)
wow
Ikr I need to get a life
but what"s heat
noo its okkay
You have a good excuse if its Hades
You want spoilers?
is it including the lore ?
I can remove the lore bits
It’s basically a difficulty system where you can increase the difficulty of certain parts of the game (you heal for less, things move faster, you have to beat the game on a timer)
Which you unlock after beating Dad
is the 100% possible ?
no way ?
possible is everything ^^
is it counted as a success ?
in steam
oh nice
That would be ridiculous
and how much hour for have all the success ?
*unmodded
all the achievements are based on how the devs themselves did playing the game
last heat based achievement being 16, the last speed achievement being for sub 13(?)
(speed achievement in game rather for the end text)
Oh I thought there’d be a 32 heat achievement considering that’s the last in game reward, or at least 20 cuz that’s the end of the bounties
nope
The more you know
sub 12
Hermes would be jealous
Zoomz
I do think have made hermes jealous tho
that man refuses to fork over the rushy d when im on good pace :(
Yo sup
Hermy gimme ur rushy d pls
Hermy be like
no
Where’s the stats table for rd
found it
assuming infernal w/ no call from nalei on speedcord
I love fighting Charon in tartarus
Is that Hermes Jay garrick?
But losing my death defying annoys the hell out of me
Same his shop becomes cheaper everytime you do
Mhm
"Borrow 300 coins"
So glad I managed to survive to seeing patroclus
Pppfftt I just picked up merciful end, and my two options for the next boon I pick up is Athena or Ares LOL
Well do you have divine dash yet 
same i fought him yesterday he took 1 death defiance from me but the next encounter was patroclus so i refilled it
I got him in Tartarus and he ended up taking two of my defyings I lost the third later on and managed to get one back from Athena before I ran into patroclus to refill the other two
He wouldn't have taken the second if he didn't end up stunning me into one of his skull bubbles
Say does anybody know if you are only limited to a certain number of Gods per run
There are runs where I never run into Aphrodite
Aphrodite has pretty cool stuff and her call is also really good
Personally I prefer her shot for hera bow
The rapid one?
Have we told you about god pool?
Possibly LOL
God pool
When you take a boon from a new god they are added to a pool.
-this pool can contain 4 gods-
Chaos and Hermes boons don't count for this
Once 4 gods are taken in this pool, the rest will disappear from the run. (As a note, selling all boons from a god will not remove the god from your pool.
What this means for runs is that you have better chances at seeing the gods you do care about and their duos. Before the good pool is closed you have a 1 in 7* ||or 8 once demeter is unlocked|| to be the god you want, with the pool closed, you increase your chance to 1 in 4.
How to break god pool cap
-Using a god keepsake (keepsake of one of the main gods, forces next boon to be them) of a god not in pool will force the god regardless and add them to the pool.
-On occasions, you can enter a midshop with 3 gods, buy your 4th god and have a 5th god in the exit door
-enter the last area with 3 or less gods and every god could be offered
Note: Breaking the god cap is usually not that useful as it just means less chances to get who you want again but if you really need that duo/divine dash then it is an option.
I do know that there are item pools with which to pull the boons from I didn't know whether there was a specific limited amount
So there's a maximum of four gods that you can get boons from per run
That's all I needed to know LOL
Hmhm
If you really need a god and already met the cap it can be good to know you can break it
I'd like to try doing a run where I only pick one God for the whole run
I imagine you can by selling your boons right?
Nope 
Selling all boons will not remove a god from the pool
God keepsakes will force the god regardless of cap and then will just keep them in your pool
I do know that you can get the same boon again once you sell it
Ohhh neat good to know
I don't think I quite realized that
(you can also find 5+ god pools naturally on some runs through dumb luck)
I doubt its required for 100% but personally I feel I need to for my own personal 100%
Is one of the steam achievements 
Ah nice
Lol
Also I'm pretty sure but for the record it's impossible to find the Satyr sack first try right?
I wish there was a boon to make you immune to poison
correct, its hard coded to always appear in at least the 2nd path
Probably a Dionysus thing
All right like I said I figured that was the case just from doing runs myself but I just wanted to make sure that there wasn't some sort of really low percentage chance
fun fact, its actually weighted to 2 sack in terms of odds
Reddit would have you believe that 
So many 1 sack believers lol
Would be neat if it was like a 1% chance
As someone who speedran this game a lot unmodded, hell no
Me when I finally get a run will my skips and builds and good minibosses and fail the 1%
I hate that big Satyr
I always forget to use my God damn companion LOL
I completely forgot I had it until you just mentioned it
The only enemy that I actually remember to use it on is Hades himself
Speedruns do make companions into your muscle memory
Turns out minibosses can't do anything without armor
Lol true
(meg destroys the armor of every miniboss except two)
Does she really
Anthony the rat and the styx big laser
(anthony is the big rat)
You also have fancy set ups to hit stuff like all witches in asphodel's witches circle or the bombers in tartarus
You can also hit both heroes with the hardest set up of all
Start fight > hold up > summon
How does Meg's line work exactly?
Is it random or the dependent on where you're holding
Perpendicular from zag's shoulder
So it creates a perpendicular line from what you're facing?
pretty much yeah
Actually is there a meg guide in speedcord
Oh was about to ping you frei lol
Idk if a most updated one (if there's is) has been shared here
it targets the closest target to determine where exactly it places the meg as well
i dont think there has
i may have linked the meg setup here before in #h1-high-heat-strategies before but thats it
I wonder what hour it is!
(Clueless)
Lol
The head chef has been on a streak lately
Gods I just want dusa to be happy
The keepsakes I have left to complete
- level 2 sysiphus
- level 1 eurydice
- Level 1 Patroclus
- Level 1 hades
- level 1 zeus
And then I just need to grind the Ambrosia to increase the companions and finish my bonds
He was actually the last keepsake I got LOL
Intentionally mind you
For the sake of how I feel zagreus would care for Zeus least of the Gods
I was basically playing that a bit in character, but I also was intentionally delaying the story
I knew the story would eventually continue when I got all the keepsakes and I just figured I'd wait a while before continuing with the story
Also am I just not getting something, why do Achilles and patroclus give you an ant
The others I get
Although I'm not sure what companion Delta is since I haven't managed to unlock him yet for some reason
Man therws two fish I'm missing
Are they the chaos fish
Thank you for letting me know that because I would usually wait until their armor was gone before I attacked them
Enemies usually have more armour than health, and removing armour weakens them
So stripping armour is rlly important
I killed hades like 5 times why cant he just let me pass
He did
Yeah when i beat him
So what’s the problem
He should give up 😅
Cuz it’s set in Hades
Last I played my original Hades file was 2 years ago. Beat Hades main story again after only 19 runs on Hell Mode. I guess I still got it
His ONLY JOB is managing the dead
can I not play as hades though
is it impossible
or later I can play
So you want the game to be called zagreus?
sure
and hades 2 should be called melinoe
Didnt get to hades 2 yet i still need to beat the final boss 5 more times
Impossible
this is just lies why can't I play as hades in any game
if I can't play as hades
then why call it hades
please I want to be hades
CUZ ITS IN HADES
Yes
Legend of zelda but u play as Link ahh moment
Hades is the underworld
BUT THERE IS A PERSON CALLED HADES
Hades do be the name for the underworld
WHY CAN YOU NOT PLAY AS HIM
But Link is indeed the Legend of Zelda though
Hes the antagonist
I don't care
Then cry about it, if you don’t care we can’t persuade you
If the game let us play as hades i would let myself be killed by zagreus
why
Lowkey did you look at anything about the game prior to purchase like
I’m a little interested how you ended up in this situation
uhh no
I didn't want to be spoiled
what were you expecting the game to even be?