#h1-discussion

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umbral tulip
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but that build might have enough power even with one suboptimal hammer

fervent radish
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Play modded tbh

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If you’re on pc or steam deck

umbral tulip
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mods work on deck??

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tysm

fervent radish
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I think so yeah

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You can ask in the speedrunning servers mod channel for help installing

dusky silo
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ngl i dont see the power in Zeus shield

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like yes is good

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but like i dont feel is better than most other things i have tried 😭

rustic vale
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The zeus special does so much more than them

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And the shield being a shield in itself is very defensive

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Of course a lot of value comes from the high skill ceiling of zeus where you start expertly using your bashes and special, knocking enemies together to deal with them faster etc etc

dusky silo
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i was comparing it to other weapons

dusky silo
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so is pretty much 2 equally viable choices

rustic vale
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Beowulf and zeus are good for different purposes

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Beowulf is great for speed

dusky silo
rustic vale
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And zeus does really well with heat

open sapphire
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Anyone knows how to get pass witches circle without getting a crap ton of damage?

dusky silo
rustic vale
dusky silo
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ohhh i thought they meant chaos circle

fervent radish
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not necessarily

dusky silo
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😭

fervent radish
dusky silo
fervent radish
rustic vale
open sapphire
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Witches circle as in the 4 long range minions in lava area

rustic vale
fervent radish
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shameless plug

dusky silo
fervent radish
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it's pretty slow overall

dusky silo
rustic vale
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So you can keep yourself mostly safe while getting to the witches and then deal with them up close and personal

dusky silo
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ngl i feel like i could do 62 heat with something else but i dont see myself enjoying the hours and days or more it would take me to get a good seed

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😭

rustic vale
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A simple divine dash does do numbers on the witches fight (other athena boons do, but to varying success on different weapons)

dusky silo
open sapphire
dusky silo
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i always use athena melee

fervent radish
dusky silo
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so i go to corner

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and deflect all

fervent radish
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oh reasonable

fervent radish
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but i don't like being beholden to their attcks

dusky silo
dusky silo
fervent radish
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styx is so much more of an issue with EM4

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but yeah some tart rooms can be very very rough

dusky silo
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i swear

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every time i use heat time

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i get those 50 minions

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slowly spawning

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i one tap them

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but they suck the time

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😭

stiff obsidian
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real

rustic vale
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See

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Just run js-5

fervent radish
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i think i've had tarts where every room but 1 have trickle unarmored witches

fervent radish
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finding an aspect that you genuinely enjoy playing and vibe with is nonnegotiable for pushing that high

queen dome
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How do i unlock the locked heart on skelly

harsh scroll
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Then finish the quest he gives you afterwards

queen dome
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What are weapon aspects

harsh scroll
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Special styles to your infernal arms. You need to get all weapons before unlocking aspects

queen dome
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Ok

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I have every blood upgrade exept the last one on the shield

harsh scroll
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Those are aspects. You need to unlock the aspects themselves, not the levels

queen dome
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Oh

brisk trail
queen dome
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Hello

brisk trail
queen dome
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Are the big yellow drinks important?

harsh scroll
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Aegis has 2 max heat clears so yeah it's pretty good

queen dome
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The one that u get from boss

harsh scroll
queen dome
harsh scroll
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I'd advise stocking up

queen dome
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Ok why?

brisk trail
harsh scroll
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Stock up at least a fair number

queen dome
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Ok

brisk trail
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Shoot I'm broke as hell

queen dome
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How do i get more then playing heat

brisk trail
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Or trading or fish

harsh scroll
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And yeah fishing on the surface

queen dome
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Ok

brisk trail
harsh scroll
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I think the legendary's titan blood

queen dome
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Wich is the better aspect for the bow

harsh scroll
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Rama imo

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Though you don't have that do you

queen dome
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Nope

harsh scroll
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Then Hera it is I think

brisk trail
queen dome
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Ok

brisk trail
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Chiron carrya me

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Carrys me

queen dome
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What keepsake should i use

harsh scroll
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Chiron is pretty fun but no it's not that good

brisk trail
brisk trail
harsh scroll
queen dome
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Ok

harsh scroll
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Well no shot a specialized build can make it good

brisk trail
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Yeah but I think it's just the best with or without build

queen dome
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Is it bad i use skellys one at hades

brisk trail
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Sea storm isn't really a specialised build I use it with everyting

harsh scroll
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Though acorn's better

queen dome
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Ok

brisk trail
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Someti,ws

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Cos I cba leveling the acorn

harsh scroll
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Max level acorn can spare you an entire defiance I think

brisk trail
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Yeah but I'd lose it to the poison dsrt blasters

queen dome
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Oh damn

brisk trail
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Cos 5 hits isn't enough when u suck at the game like me

harsh scroll
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I think he doesn't summon satyrs

brisk trail
harsh scroll
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Yeah

brisk trail
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And I'd losr it then

queen dome
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I hate the blow dart dudes

brisk trail
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@queen dome cussing is bad

queen dome
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Sry

brisk trail
harsh scroll
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You should preferably never be poisoned for more than 2 seconds

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Cures are everywhere

brisk trail
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Yes but I suck

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What's the highest dodge yellow have gotten

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Yall

harsh scroll
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I forgot

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I know there's a 142% dodge build from... Haelian, I think?

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I think mine capped somewhere between 60% and 80%

brisk trail
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Yeah saw that

queen dome
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What does 142%dodge mean

brisk trail
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My record is 50

brisk trail
queen dome
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Ive gotten 20😭

harsh scroll
queen dome
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Daymn

brisk trail
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1.2 percent per room cleared fast

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Aspect of zAgreus gives 15%

queen dome
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Wait yall talk abt how many %yall got hitten

harsh scroll
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That of course requires max level plume and high rarity dodge boons so you need some luck AND good clears

queen dome
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40-60%

harsh scroll
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?

queen dome
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Dodge %

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Is flurry shot bad or good

harsh scroll
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I wouldn't use it personally

queen dome
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Ok

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I shouldnt have taken double shot

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The range is so bad

harsh scroll
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Twin shot is pretty good wdym

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The reduced range is well worth doubling the damage output I think

queen dome
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Ok

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Do yall take the under world gates

harsh scroll
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Erebus? Or Chaos

queen dome
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Chaos

harsh scroll
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Yeah why not

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Chaos boons are pretty reliable

queen dome
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Fr

brisk trail
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I'm a chaos egg main

harsh scroll
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Cosmic Egg is bad simply because of how unreliable the gates are

brisk trail
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Man flip you

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I love cosmic egg

harsh scroll
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No, let me explain my point

harsh scroll
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The gates are unreliable. You can go a whole run without catching a glimpse

brisk trail
harsh scroll
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Or you can get Ixion on every single well

queen dome
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Nvm double shot op

brisk trail
harsh scroll
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If the egg made the gates a bit more frequent even if it meant removing the rarity bonus or not denying the damage to enter, they'd probably already be better

brisk trail
queen dome
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I just want the hammers alot

harsh scroll
brisk trail
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I take chaos over hammer

queen dome
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#give me hammer

harsh scroll
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You can only get 2 hammers per run

brisk trail
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Ik

queen dome
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Asphodel my nr2 opp

queen dome
harsh scroll
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The devs wanted it to be

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And so it was

queen dome
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Sad

brisk trail
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Is there anything like hammers I the sequel

queen dome
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I do 600 dmg per shot lmao

brisk trail
queen dome
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Whats the highest someone has gotten

harsh scroll
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Sometimes you'll get the anvil at Styx which can get you up to 3 hammer upgrades

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But I don't like it much

brisk trail
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I want a daddalus keepsake

harsh scroll
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Hades 1 is not getting updated afaik

queen dome
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I have underestimate the bow builds

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This is so op

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I did 1/4 of hydras hp with one shot

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Now to get to the bosses without dying

cloud pagoda
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ugh I keep dying to redacted, I've succeeded three times (Zeus shield, Nem sword, fists) but have had like five failed runs since the last one and I'm just tired of this

daring trellis
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Well actually first, are you sticking to which weapons?

queen dome
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I just did 1.5k dmg on one hit

cloud pagoda
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I keep doing fine until I get to Redacted so clearly there's a skill issue on that fight 🙃

daring trellis
cloud pagoda
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Yeah, got em all unlocked

daring trellis
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Cause I'd kinda recommend growing acustom to those aswell

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They all play differently and force different reflexes for hades

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Fists and sword are up close while bow and exagryph are good for learning spacing

cloud pagoda
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Yeah I've learned that I really just like to be up in my enemy's face

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But I'm real bad at the timing on dashing to avoid those big melee hits if I'm right there

daring trellis
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Hm.

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Do you use dash attacks?

cloud pagoda
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Yeah, even though I know they give you fewer iframes than just a regular dash

daring trellis
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I'd recommend not using them too much for hades

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He chases you down

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So you dashing at him is. Kinda just wasting i-frames unless you've built into dash attacks

cloud pagoda
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Gotcha

daring trellis
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He also only uses 3 combos first phase, while second phase he uses them less

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I'd say 2nd phase is easier if you dash into the vases

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With a dash boon

queen dome
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Got too greedy and lost a life🚅🥌

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Rip me

cloud pagoda
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I'm okay at managing the lasers but I'm not always great at dealing with environmental hazards (see also, why Asphodel is the hardest zone and why I hate the poison in Styx) so being able to deal with the vases is a good call

daring trellis
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They never are in range, plus exogryph snipes him during laser

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Fyi mostly use your aids either during laser if invincible, or straight after laser

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Gives most free time to damage

cloud pagoda
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sniping during laser is great, with the short-range weapons I mostly just stand on his face and hit him during laser instead of hiding

daring trellis
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That's a. Bad call

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Laser does 20 per I think 10 frames?

cloud pagoda
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it's basically the one piece of the fight that I actually have mostly not had an issue with

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if you're in his hit box, the lasers don't hit you

daring trellis
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Oh huh

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Weird

queen dome
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I just killed hades in less then a minute

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What weapon should i go for next

daring trellis
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Hera bow

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Oops-

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Nvm

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Uhhh. Exogryph, full ricochet

rustic vale
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Dash striking is the best dps option for most weapons so not using them isn’t a great idea

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You have to learn when it’s time to empty dash for frames and when you’re just going to want to dash strike

daring trellis
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Though due to my use of. Bow and exogryph, I don't dash attack often

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Myself

queen dome
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Oh no

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I just unlocked skellys mission

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I dont want to do that😭

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I like him too mucj

daring trellis
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You gotta man </3

queen dome
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Hes my favorite character

daring trellis
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He deserves a proper end though. I say take him to the tartarus bridge with shield, then take a drink of smth beforehand

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Talk to him for a final unique message aswell

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I missed it my time :[

queen dome
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Sad

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Imma level up the shield so i can do it

daring trellis
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No

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It has to be sword

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Use shield to push him, then use full lvl sword

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Only sword of zag works

queen dome
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Oh

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Ok

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Off to get 5 blood

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Yay......

daring trellis
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You can trade for it

mint coral
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Enjoy skelly's last days

daring trellis
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Mhm

rustic vale
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I would throw myself off a cliff if dash striking wasn’t a thing on bow

daring trellis
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It. Is???

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I've never used it then ig-

rustic vale
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yeah it is

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It’s a faster charge for less damage but the dps is better and it’s safer since it’s quicker

daring trellis
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I

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Never use it then

rustic vale
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Mmm

daring trellis
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I think

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Yeah no I dont-

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I don't dash attack often because it's clunky on certain control schemes

rustic vale
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Are you kbm?

fervent radish
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I would change the control scheme then

daring trellis
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Kbm?

rustic vale
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Keyboard and mouse

daring trellis
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Nah, I like the control scheme for everything but dash attack and genuinely just, don't care for the option of it often rn

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No controller

rustic vale
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Are you on default controls?

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Or have you swapped where your dash/strikes are

daring trellis
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Wait no I'm thinking of fists. Cause of uppercut being annoying. Geez I'm sorry I am not- here,,today

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Brain isn't 100%

rustic vale
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Oh the d-upper on fists does take some getting used to

daring trellis
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Yeah it's like

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Bottom + top button which is annoying for thumb

rustic vale
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You could roll your thumb around the strike and up to the special

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Like hitting b->x->y but it’d still be a little awkward

daring trellis
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That'd dash strike normally though

rustic vale
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Lemme see if I can find the video that has the optimal fists dps rotation cuz it’s a good demonstration

daring trellis
queen dome
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The bull

rustic vale
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No measures: both at the same time
Measures: theseus out of the way first

daring trellis
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I always remove asterius first, both ways

queen dome
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If u kill the shield guy first u have to have the bull and the summoning too

rustic vale
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Asterius is far easier to deal with when you don’t have to keep an eye on theseus

daring trellis
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Thesius is easy to dodge for me

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On his own

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And with asterius

rustic vale
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I also don’t have much experience with the EM3 fight because I don’t even run it for my 40 heat pacts

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I just don’t like it as much

queen dome
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Everything is easy dodge for me as i have soulsborne ptsd

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That damn promise concort rhadan

daring trellis
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Thesius is arguably easier to dodge on EM3

queen dome
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It was a mistake playing the game

daring trellis
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His rockets are heavily telegraphed

queen dome
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The gun weapon is so ahh💔

daring trellis
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What-?

rustic vale
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This is just wrong

queen dome
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The one that shoots rockets

rustic vale
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Yeah the rail is a good weapon

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It’s not ahh

daring trellis
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It's good. With a hammer

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Without hammer, dear god it can be awful

rustic vale
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It’s pretty decent with just lightning and static discharge

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Eris, and Hestia both stand on their own pretty well without hammers

daring trellis
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Oh yeah they probably do

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I just. Haven't used either-

fervent radish
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hestia is a good aspect even if you intentionally tried to pick the worst boons for it

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150 base damage is just really really good

daring trellis
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I haven't tried it cause. Idk, I just haven't used exogryph as much as my 20 bow runs-

winter scarab
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Theseus on em3 is way easier

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Only asteriyd becomes harder

daring trellis
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Yeah

winter scarab
harsh scroll
daring trellis
harsh scroll
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Dawg Rama feels like playing on easy mode 😭

winter scarab
indigo badge
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celestial sharanga 🤑

cloud pagoda
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Artemis greater call continues to be ez mode and I love it so much

fervent radish
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me waiting for it to charge zagsnooze

rustic vale
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baby mode?

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(Easy mode)^2?

cloud pagoda
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idk but neither of them does a half of redacted's life bar in one go

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like they're both great, don't get me wrong, and I'll absolutely take them

rustic vale
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and can be used reliably in regular rooms

cloud pagoda
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cool

junior bough
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Have any of you seen what the bosses say in response to you being in the red? Like, I've only seen Theseus' reaction to it, taking it as an insult, but I need more insight (don't know if Asterius has one, but I'm sure the Furies and Hades do).

zinc trellis
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In the red?

fervent radish
daring trellis
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Wouldn't guan yu be best for that?

modest tulip
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... I dunno why but Thanatos relationship makes me feel weird...
Nyx: Sorry, I am not your mothe-
Zagreus looking at Thanatos: ...

rustic vale
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Even if you throw the “it’s greek mythos” it’s still like

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they grew up together as far as the story was concerned

brisk trail
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Nah its fine

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How do people even get 64 heat, I couldn't access it when I put on every mod (my record is 8 heat if that matters)

daring trellis
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It's a jail of their own making. Having two female dating options yet no males when everyone is pretty would suck. Yet literally all guys not related to zagreus in one form or another have lovers or is skelly

daring trellis
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One Measure is missing

brisk trail
rustic vale
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One entire heat condition is missing (Personal Liability)

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and then you’ll have to have reached the credits to get extreme measures 4 as well

brisk trail
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Oh, that socks will I have to restart my save file to have hell mode enabled them

rustic vale
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You can find the right thing to switch in the files iirc

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Or just install a mod that lets you do it (easier option)

brisk trail
brisk trail
rustic vale
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I’ll ask the one person I know who has it

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Anyways I wouldn’t worry about 64 heat at the moment because that’s a herculean undertaking

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Only a handful of people have ever completed it, and more often than not they do it with the speedrun modpack to reduce start of run rng that would make them reset a bunch more

brisk trail
rustic vale
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8 -> 20 -> 32 -> 40 -> 45 (optional) -> 50

brisk trail
rustic vale
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would be your pipeline

brisk trail
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Thanks

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Rn I'm just running aspect kf chiron in jumps to see if I can beat it with my best aspect, if I can't I'll lower a bit until I can

rustic vale
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there’s also a 32 heat guide pinned in #h1-high-heat-strategies that has a ton of relevant info for running 32 heat and beyond

rustic vale
lavish sorrel
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still fine for 32, but 40 and above it begins to fall off hard

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Also yeah highly recommend having a step at 45. 40 heat and 50 heat are two different games entirely

brisk trail
tepid light
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You're not nearly at the point where Chiron is unuseable

brisk trail
tepid light
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i just wish it did

brisk trail
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Oh i only heard of lu bu in smthng called record of ragnarok so I thought it was real

rustic vale
surreal blaze
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Hi there, I have a problem with completing Sisyphus storyline. I have completed the whole game, maxed out everything. I can't seem to get the Nyx dialgoue even after 50+ runs. Is there anyone having the same issue? I would like to finish the last achievement. Thank you for your answers.

young mulch
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His please help me out,

I currently play hades on my iPad Pro M4 , the touch controls are a nightmare making the bow practically unusable.

I want to use an external controller to play the game, even the Netflix page says I can use a controller, but it doesn’t work.

https://help.netflix.com/en/node/133884

( currently own :-

Logitech MX MCHNCL M , keyboard

Logitech MX MASTER 3S, Mouse)

Supergiant doesn’t reply to mails and Netflix chat and helpline are…. Let’s just say a spiral down to hell.

Anyone who knows the solution pls DM me

Regards

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This is for hades only

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His please help me out,

I currently play hades on my iPad Pro M4 , the touch controls are a nightmare making the bow practically unusable.

I want to use an external controller to play the game, even the Netflix page says I can use a controller, but it doesn’t work.

https://help.netflix.com/en/node/133884

( currently own :-

Logitech MX MCHNCL M , keyboard

Logitech MX MASTER 3S, Mouse)

Supergiant doesn’t reply to mails and Netflix chat and helpline are…. Let’s just say a spiral down to hell.

Anyone who knows the solution pls DM me

Regards

rustic vale
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Otherwise you might be suffering from rng dialogue, or you may have missed a dialogue line from Meg/Hades about Sisyphus

surreal blaze
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It is so strange to me since I have beaten the game with 32 heat and I can't get this last companion for some reason.

tepid plover
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Welcome to the nyx gamble machine

winter scarab
queen dome
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Cursed slash op asf

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I cant die lmao

queen dome
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What do i do with the keys now that i have unlocked every mirror of night

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Skelly scammed me

queen dome
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Ok

spiral tusk
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You know, when I first played hades 1 I didn't like it, it's now in my top 5 favourite ever games

harsh scroll
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Got both Heart Rend and Low Tolerance with my Weak source being Crush Shot 😭 the game is reminding me to use my cast the hard way

rustic vale
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I wouldn’t touch crush shot without a 10 foot Hera aspect pole

harsh scroll
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No Blown Kiss no Empty Inside no Sweet Surrender nothing

harsh scroll
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The Hestia shot is affected by Ricochet Fire???

old bluff
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Ye

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It’s pretty nice

fierce junco
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just make sure you doing all your work orders from your contractor 👍

autumn jewel
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I traded all keys into nectar
I think I may regret my decisions greatly in the future

daring trellis
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And becomes a monster. Sadly dionysius lingers 4 ever

indigo badge
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so does hypnos wanting asterius' autograph have a conclusion? if so do i have to do anything specific to get it?

mint coral
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There's a guide on the wiki iirc

rustic vale
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Hestia does not fix Crush Shots problem, it doesn’t do anything for casts

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And Beowulf cannot get crush shot

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It gets Passion Flare instead

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So my initial statement is correct

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The only time I’d touch Crush Shot is with a Hera Aspect pole

daring trellis
brisk trail
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I hate spear 😡

upbeat gorge
young mulch
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Please help me out,

I currently play hades on my iPad Pro M4 , the touch controls are a nightmare making the bow practically unusable.

I want to use an external controller to play the game, even the Netflix page says I can use a controller, but it doesn’t work.

https://help.netflix.com/en/node/133884

( currently own :-

Logitech MX MCHNCL M , keyboard

Logitech MX MASTER 3S, Mouse)

Supergiant doesn’t reply to mails and Netflix chat and helpline are…. Let’s just say a spiral down to hell.

No one helped me in the h1- support .

Anyone who knows the solution pls DM me

Regards

harsh scroll
steep wagon
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ive beat hades once, should i do some heat, what to do now?

harsh scroll
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Do it again

steep wagon
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with heat involve?

indigo badge
fervent radish
steep wagon
harsh scroll
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Yes

indigo badge
steep wagon
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what do bounties do?

harsh scroll
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Titan blood is used for aspects, diamonds for specific House Contractor stuff and ambrosia for maxing affinity

steep wagon
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whats affinity? exp?

harsh scroll
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Affinity gauge for each character

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You know when you give them nectar and get a keepsake

steep wagon
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the hearts?

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for the characters

harsh scroll
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That's 1 heart in the affinity gauge. Some characters give you companions when the gauge is completed

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And maxing Olympian affinities is required for the epilogue

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Ambrosia is also used for upgrading those companions

steep wagon
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alright

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should i start beating hades 9 more times

harsh scroll
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Get on to it

steep wagon
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also is it alright for me to spend titan blood at my current state of the game

indigo badge
harsh scroll
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^

steep wagon
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how about the mirror of night, which skills should i max out first

indigo badge
harsh scroll
steep wagon
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ive gotten a heart on all Olympians or at least one heart but not zeus

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is his boon rare or something

indigo badge
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no you're just getting unlucky

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rng can be cruel sometimes

steep wagon
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then i must be a very unlucky person

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i dont think ive seen a zeus boon in a long time

rustic vale
queen dome
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I love fisting the enemies

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I have 40% dodge rn lmao

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Is there a cap to the father thing?

mint coral
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As many rooms as you can find

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Dodge chance is additive so you can reach 100%

queen dome
#

Daymb

sturdy scroll
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Can I have multiple duo boons in a run?

I'm trying to fulfill the "all duo boons" prophecy and all I have is Ice Wine left, and I got the right boons for both, but it gave me Exclusive Access instead. That's my best pick out of the three I have, but I don't know if picking it up will stop me from getting Ice Wine.

sturdy scroll
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OK, good. Thanks.

mint coral
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Only a few duos block each other

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And is basically only cast duos blocking other casts

turbid blade
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hey guys, what's the best weapon in the game? i'm kinda struggling to beat Hades

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i have 10hs at the game, idk if i'm slow or not lol

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bought poseidon aspect for sword, but i read that zeus shield is better, is that true?

indigo badge
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being able to block helps a lot against hades

turbid blade
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yeah i just bought zeus aspect, gonna try with this

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also is any god recommended or it doesn't matter?

indigo badge
turbid blade
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nice, thank you man

turbid blade
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worked! first win nectar

harsh scroll
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Now do it on 32 heat

indigo badge
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hope you enjoy the game 👍

queen dome
rustic python
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The last boon of the run (in the room with the satyr sack) I get a choice between:

[DUO] Any boons you find are at least epic
[EPIC] Any gems, darkness and gold chamber rewards will be worth 60% more
[DUO] Any poms of power you find give +1 level

...

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At first glance, I see two duo boons and an epic and I'm excited. Then I read them and realise they all do literally nothing.

rustic vale
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Extra darkness is always nice for Ranks

rustic python
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But I'm not going to have any more chamber rewards. It does nothing

rustic vale
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You get darkness from Hades if you’ve already taken his bounty on your current heat level

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and gems (regardless of if you’ve taken the bounty) if you have the work order for it

rustic python
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Oh right gems from Hades

rustic vale
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Somewhere in the 250-500 range but I can’t remember the exact amount

harsh scroll
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All hail Vanquisher's Keep

final wren
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What are nectars

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I’ve given all of my nectars so far to Achilles

late quartz
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||i'm trying to get to the final ending but i don't get what i have to do. i'd tried to give nectars to gods but even when i do i'm blocked with a lock sign. even after a tone of runs to talk to theme. what am i missing?||

rustic vale
#

To finish the epilogue you have to have 6 of the olympians favours completed

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If you want to check individual npcs favours I’d look them up on the Hades Wiki

late quartz
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i tried with dionysos

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did what he asked

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and.... nothing

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one last heart but can't give him anything

rustic vale
#

Oh they reformatted the wiki bouldy

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It sounds like you haven’t completed many (if any at all) favours so far, so I’d be surprised if you were able to get dionysus’s yet

stray tusk
#

Full story can be unlocked at 0 heat?
Was there any story to be unlocked from buying decorations?

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This is for H1...

fervent radish
#

There’s dialogue and some in game decor for pushing heat though

stray tusk
#

Main story*

fervent radish
stray tusk
#

Titles are cosmetic?

fervent radish
harsh scroll
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Should I take Sea Storm or Sweet Nectar (I'm at Styx, can still pom 3 times)

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In fact there's an item in the shop I forgot what was but I know there's at least 3 I can get

rustic vale
#

It’d also depend on how much sea storm would actually benefit your build

harsh scroll
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Epic Side Hustle and I'm running every tunnel

fervent radish
#

What aspect and where is Poseidon

harsh scroll
harsh scroll
fervent radish
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Uhh

rustic vale
#

I think I’d take sea storm tizomg

fervent radish
#

Yeah

ripe crag
#

why's Aphrodite naked 😭❓

indigo badge
zinc trellis
opaque nexus
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the game is so hard

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can some one recomend a good weapon

indigo badge
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every weapon is good

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you can use whichever one you like the most

opaque nexus
indigo badge
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observe enemies' moves and think about how to dodge them
mobs have at most 2 different attacks

daring trellis
mild stirrup
#

Out of curiosity, does anyone know the percent of players that have beat 32 heat? Is that number available somewhere?

rustic vale
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It’s not captured by steam achievements

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and otherwise it would have to be logged on a person to person basis

mild stirrup
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Thanks. Yeah I saw it wasn't on steam but just wondered if somehow there was some other metric. Thanks

rustic vale
#

I think it’s a good chunk less than any of the steam achievements

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but couldn’t tell you a real number

mild stirrup
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The second Skelly reward is 7.5 percent of players. Probably a good bit lower than that but yeah I guess we'll never know!

daring trellis
#

Just assume it's half skelly reward 2 x lowest amounting achievement

queen dome
#

What heat do i take first

stiff obsidian
#

1

mild stirrup
queen dome
harsh scroll
#

Which weapons would have weird interactions if you could mix up all 4 aspects at once

old bluff
#

Shield and bow due to castpects

harsh scroll
#

Please do not pretend Zeus and Chaos wouldn't be crazy

fair lynx
fervent radish
harsh scroll
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Except there'd be 6 discs

rustic vale
#

Shield would be rad tbh

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Chaos x zeus

harsh scroll
rustic vale
harsh scroll
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The blade though

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Special does everything

rustic vale
#

If you don’t give it arthur’s dash strike it’ll be good

harsh scroll
#

The thing is you HAVE to merge them all in

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I'm curious to how Gilgamesh would kill the fists though. 12 hits on that thing for Demeter 💔

mint zenith
#

approval process giveth and approval process taketh 😭 😭 😭

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4 of my wanted boons get approved, but then twin shot gets blocked 💔

mint zenith
harsh scroll
#

Approval Process has blocked the one and only boon I wanted 3 times in the same run

mint zenith
#

rip

harsh scroll
#

Used persuasions to reroll and the boon showed up again and got blocked again

mint zenith
#

if it were me and I used my persuasions to reroll and I still dont get it im just quitting the run on the spot

harsh scroll
#

After this incident I never looked at it ever again

mint zenith
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yeah ong im never putting AP back on

rustic vale
#

Cuz that’s a massive downgrade for sword, spear, fists

steep wagon
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i stole money from the grim reaper shopkeeper and i beat him then he gave me the card

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does it last for only my current run or forever

zinc trellis
#

when do you unlock rerolling

tepid light
tepid light
zinc trellis
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hmm I thought I unlocked everything in the mirror

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I guess I'll have to check that next time

tepid light
zinc trellis
#

I know that

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I just haven't seen the rerolling specificially I guess

tepid light
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Huh, odd

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You mean rerolling as in rerolling boons, right?

zinc trellis
#

ye

mint zenith
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its the last upgrade you unlock

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fated authority/persuasion

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you get it with the gods pride/legacy, which increases the odds of epic or duo/leg boons

split jetty
# zinc trellis ye

Fated persuasion is the one you are able to reroll the boons/hammers/well of Charon.

Fated Authority as far as I know you are only able to reroll the gates.
(Pardon for the lack of experience, I did not use that one.)

mint zenith
#

yeah im pretty sure thats it

split jetty
#

The one keep giving you the 15% of your total coins.

mint zenith
#

i think thats golden touch

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how did you discover the other one 😭

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isnt that the default one?

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the one that gives coins on start

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wait im stupid

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anyways yeah that one is pretty fun

split jetty
mint zenith
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yeah mb I thought you said that you used to use golden touch before discovering about deep pockets

split jetty
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Mine is Lament of Orpheus.

mint zenith
#

I dont know the name of a single one lol

split jetty
#

@rough token

Hello! Hope you are having a great day. I believe there is something wrong with the bot?

split jetty
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The ones Orpheus plays?

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Or the one at the Barge of Death?

mint zenith
#

I dont think I have a favorite tbh

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they're all pretty good

split jetty
#

They are all pleasant to listen to.

mint zenith
#

no escape might be my favorite tbh

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i've heard it so much that ive been conditinoed

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I know I said I didnt have a favorite, but i lowkey just figured it out

split jetty
#

Does not not what matter what you text this message is keep popping up.

rough token
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just a general reminder

split jetty
#

Take care now!

rustic vale
split jetty
#

Sure as a beginner you should start with deep pockets.

rustic vale
#

The earlier shops are the most valuable

split jetty
#

But when your skill improves gold touch is great!

rustic vale
#

When your skill improves deep pockets becomes even better

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golden touch only gives you value if you aren’t using your obols and that’s a sacrifice you shouldn’t be making

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the earliest shops are the most valuable because they allow you to secure gods in your pool, and it means you then have whatever you bought for the rest of the run

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Being able to secure take shops and get gods you want into your god pool earlier is massive for build consistency

split jetty
#

And buy everything including Charon himself.

rustic vale
#

…yeah but it’s less effect overall

split jetty
#

Also lost my save file.

rustic vale
#

If you’re farming titan blood then sure it’s a fine mirror upgrade

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But for general use it’s just better to take deep pockets

split jetty
rustic vale
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Yeah but it’s not true to say that you get more value out of golden touch is what I’m throwing down tizomg

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It’s huge opportunity cost to hoard obols

split jetty
#

I am new to the fandom, what are obols?

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The blessings from Olympus?

rustic vale
#

No obols is the correct term for coins/gold

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Boons are the blessings from olympus

split jetty
#

I don’t see myself playing Hades 2 anytime soon tho. The game is nice and all but I am just in love with the original.

rustic vale
#

I’ve been playing Hades since like 2021 and I don’t really plan on switching

split jetty
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Will get all the achievements and then maybe I will play it.

split jetty
rustic vale
#

I also see that Hades 2 is not the exact same as Hades which is understandable but as far as I’ve heard the gameplay is just a bit different than what hits right for me in Hades

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I’ll probably buy it at some point but only once it fully releases

split jetty
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Even if I won’t play it. Just to support the team you know?

rustic vale
#

Yeah

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I have purchased Hades twice MelGrin

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Once for switch and then when I was leaving my switch with my little brothers when I went off to university I got it on steam

split jetty
#

Also the new update for Hades 2 The “WarSong” update just gives me flashbacks for Silksong

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It’s been over half a decade 😭

rustic vale
split jetty
rustic vale
split jetty
#

Jokes aside GTA VII ain’t dropping in our lifetime.

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Unless you were born like a day ago I suppose

stiff obsidian
#

yay im getting gta 7

queen dome
#

I have 85% dodge lmao

#

Wait isnt hades based in greek mythology

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So why is everyone british

fair lynx
#

Would you prefer they speak Greek

queen dome
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I dont mind it but i find it funny how they have a british accent

mint coral
#

Iirc is everyone from the UW british/Olympians are american

daring trellis
#

Fitting

indigo badge
#

plenty of characters don't sound british to me

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meg, persephone, nyx

tepid plover
#

who let the antler enjoyer out of their chamber

mint coral
# indigo badge

I don't remember the exact wording but it was said in an interview/AMA pretty sure

daring trellis
#

I mean, nyx and Meg have reverb

mint coral
#
indigo badge
#

huh

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interesting

daring trellis
#

Wait so you swapped them-?

mint coral
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Like I said I didn't remember lmfao

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Is like a detail I heard once

split jetty
tepid plover
#

same goes for hemes

split jetty
# tepid plover same goes for hemes

You are right. the Greek gods are, of course, rooted in Greek mythology, but their designs and interpretations vary because the development team at Supergiant Games comes from diverse cultural backgrounds. This international perspective influenced how they reimagined the gods, blending traditional Greek elements with fresh, modern, and unexpected artistic choices. Their goal was not strict historical accuracy but rather a unique vision that felt both familiar and new. I believe this approach allowed them to craft a world that resonated with a wide audience while still honoring the essence of Greek mythology.

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Sorry yapping 😭

#

I mean that’s how I see the things at least.

tepid plover
#

their visual design doesnt change their game original, they are still from the same place

split jetty
#

It’s nothing confirmed I think.

split jetty
tepid plover
#

it is confirmed, athena is the daughter of zeus

split jetty
tepid plover
#

then why would she be from another place just cause shes black

split jetty
#

I just admitted my mistake to you.

tepid plover
#

its the but that comes after

split jetty
wheat sorrel
#

I just picked up a build with the bow that could theoretically allow me to deal up to ~3600 damage in one shot

split jetty
#

I am talking about their designs.

harsh scroll
#

The mythology can very well have characters that are birthed someplace else tho

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Odin for example isn't Nordic simply because that's where the mythology is from

tepid plover
harsh scroll
#

Artemis and Apollo as far as I know were born in a remote island because Hera was mad at Leto

old bluff
#

Hera?

tepid plover
#

the queen of olympus

old bluff
#

oh, that was meant for the 3,600 damage one lmao

#

mb

wheat sorrel
tepid plover
#

what i do find weird is how apollo is black, and artemis is white, even tho they are supposed to be like twins

harsh scroll
queen dome
#

Wait what Apollo is in hades?

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Ive never seen him anywhere

old bluff
#

Hades 2

queen dome
#

Ahh

tepid plover
#

you can mod him too

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i do not like apollo from the mod

harsh scroll
#

Mods make anything possible tho

queen dome
#

Do mods disable achievements in steam?

harsh scroll
#

If you mod it enough you could have any of the 3 thousand gods

old bluff
queen dome
queen dome
harsh scroll
old bluff
#

ye

#

There is a lot of minor deities

harsh scroll
#

But Zeus being the dog he is I wouldn't doubt it

queen dome
#

I need to up my greek mythology knowledge💀

wheat sorrel
#

btw this is with aspect of zagreus
Divine Strike
Atrophic Strike
Chain Shot
Hunter Dash
Triple Shot
Battle Rage
Urge to Kill
and that’s just the damage boosting boons
also for it to deal the max amount of damage possible it requires ridiculous luck and a little setup
and a bazillion enemies
I’ve only had one arrow this whole run deal max potential damage

tepid plover
#

olympians thre are only 12, but there are countless gods in greek mythology

harsh scroll
#

By 3k of course we mean not just gods but the lesser ones and the demigods

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The most important ones are in the Pantheon

tepid plover
#

yes, the olympians

queen dome
#

All i know are the ones in god of war 3

tepid plover
#

lmao

harsh scroll
#

My history teacher is often caught mistaking their names and roles because there's just so many

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These days he said Apollo was the god of war and wisdom

queen dome
#

We dont even get greek mythology in my school

queen dome
#

I have to learn my own way

harsh scroll
tepid plover
#

i get my mythology knowledge from smite

wheat sorrel
#

if any of em were rarer I’d be doin ridiculous damage

harsh scroll
wheat sorrel
#

(I already am)

harsh scroll
#

To add salt to injury some classmate said Apollo was the god of the sun too

old bluff
#

At least that one makes sense

harsh scroll
#

Helios, Ares and Athena were all a dream

wheat sorrel
wheat sorrel
#

so just

#

imagine

harsh scroll
#

He pulled up that Venus painting where she's emerging from the oyster, Gaea on the right and Zephyrus blowing on the right

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With a nymph holding Zephyrus

#

He said Zephyrus's name was Artemis

final wren
#

Is this a good build

Aspect of Achilles

doom ares attacks
triple jab thingy
Athena deflect dash
Zeus chain lightning cast
Hermes extra dash (3 dashes)
Hermes speed boost

fierce tree
#

Is hades ever coming back to gamepass?

rustic vale
#

It’ll definitely work

#

But it’s not as good as one where your boons are comprehensive and work together well to really kill on the aspect

final wren
#

The only thing I need for runs is the Athena dash so u can change everything else

rustic vale
#

There are a few really solid builds for achilles

#

Mmm

final wren
rustic vale
#

Artemis strike + ares cast is really nice because you get the crit chance on strike with Achilles massive +% boost to strike, and their duo boon hunting blades really pushes your casts to the next level

#

So ideally you’d start with artemis’s keepsake to get her on strike

#

for hammers you want flurry jab first and foremost, and then either triple jab or extending jab

#

greatest reflex is good for extra dashes, but another route you can go with Hermes is hyper sprint -> rush delivery for a good global additive damage boost

rustic vale
#

There is also Merciful End with does use divine dash actively, where you would run doom on strike, then athena special to unlock their duo boon (the aforementioned Merciful End) and then get divine dash because you’ll be using it to take advantage of merciful end

#

Merciful End lets anything that deflects attack drop doom when it hits an enemy

#

So a dash strike hits an enemy, gives them doom, and then divine dash hits them and the doom immediately drops

#

It’s a pretty common build on all melee weapons, but achilles does just make better use of cast based builds

final wren
#

So ares strike with Athena dash

#

With merciful end

#

How do I even ensure I get any of these boons?

rustic vale
#

And you can typically find the boons just by having the gods in your god pool

#

Dark Foresight (the mirror upgrade) allows you to get more boons and obols overall so you’ll be able to hit everything more often

#

And then Fated Persuasion seals the deal on finding things usually

#

Although Merciful End is a bit less consistent then other builds because you need three cores instead of 2 for it to function properly, and you need 2 specific cores instead of any 2 cores like other duos

final wren
rustic vale
# final wren What’s a god pool

Whenever you take a boon from a god(dess), they’re added to your “god pool” for the rest of the run. Once you get 4 gods in your god pool, the game only shows you those gods

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(Hermes and Chaos do not count)

#

And you can’t remove a god from your god pool once they’re in it

#

Essentially, by getting boons from 4 olympians, you cut down the odds of getting any given god’s boons from
1/8 (or 1/7 if you haven’t reached the surface yet), to 1/4

daring trellis
#

Charon sells daedalus???

rustic vale
final wren
#

So once you get 4 God boons you can only then get boons from them

rustic vale
#

You can still force gods into the god pool if it’s full by taking their keepsakes

#

But that’s not an ideal scenario to be in

#

And should only really be done if you managed to completely fill your pool while missing one crucial god

final wren
#

Hmm okay I see

#

So for my optimal Achilles build I want Artemis, Ares, Athena, and one other

rustic vale
#

Probably zeus or dionysus cuz you don’t have anyone who’s got a good dps call

#

zeus opens less duos to get in the way of finding merciful end or hunting blades

final wren
#

Isn’t Poseidons call good

#

Cus it makes you invulnerable

rustic vale
#

Yeah but it locks you out of all of your actions

#

So while it’s good damage

#

Zeus and dionysus do a far better job at pumping out damage while still allowing you to do your thing (you’d be using minicalls with 25% of your call guage for this)

#

if you mainly use calls to avoid damage then poseidon isn’t a halfbad option

final wren
#

Hm true

#

What’s Dionysus’s call again?

#

Don’t think I’ve ever used it

daring trellis
#

Just lots of hangover stacks with high damage

final wren
#

Oh okay

#

Is it possible to have more than 1 duo boons active

rustic vale
#

There’s no ingame limit

fierce tree
#

Is hades ever coming back to gamepass?

desert flame
#

In H1, is Zagreus weak for a god, or is it merely that he has not come into his own yet?

harsh scroll
#

Maybe it's got something to do with his birth?

#

He wasn't supposed to be, the Fates said

desert flame
harsh scroll
#

How come I get 4 duos without Gods' Legacy 😭 RNG will never be this kind again

rustic vale
#

Source: me

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I have a full catalogue of photos of me getting 3-5 duos without legacy

#

as anti legacy propaganda

final wren
#

What’s legacy

mint coral
#

+10% to duos/legendaries

split jetty
#

You should study each gods boons as well. To see how to get them duos and legendaries.

harsh scroll
#

The boon codex page is extremely useful in this matter

mint coral
#

(remember boon codex is an unlockable)

harsh scroll
#

Yeah but doesn't take too long to unlock

cloud pagoda
#

I don't think so, just garden variety failure to read the rest of the conversation

harsh scroll
#

But Pride is still better unless the build relies on a specific duo

round gorge
#

Guys chaos doesn’t want to give me the funny round thingy

#

I want my beowulf aspect

#

But he just doesn’t care

#

Shield is literally my most used weapon, and yet he still doesn’t want to give me the aspect

rustic vale
#

You may just be suffering from the rngfest that is unlocking the rest of the hidden aspects because you need 2 rng dialogues to get the awakening phrase

round gorge
#

I have all aspects but beowulf

#

And i’ve been taking to chaos every time i get the chance

rustic vale
rustic vale
#

You’re probably just unlucky with the rng dialogues, but I’m trying to gauge whether you’ve gotten the first and are just waiting for the awakening phrase or not atp

round gorge
rustic vale
#

Unless it had a special effect to it

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Then it’s 100% the awakening phrase

queen dome
#

Out of all the times hades could not fight me he fought me when i had one of the strongest builds

#

Nvm it was worth it

#

YOOO ITS MY BOY CHARON

#

Is this the game ending?

#

Well that was peak

daring trellis
queen dome
#

What now tho

daring trellis
#

Replay

split jetty
daring trellis
#

Side stuff

#

Epilogue

split jetty
split jetty
round gorge
split jetty
rare minnow
#

hey everyone, is there anything I can use to make the boss fight with Asterius and Theseus easier 😞 or any specific thing to do

lavish sorrel
queen dome
#

I was at the top and i forgot to fish......

rustic vale
#

Since you’re then an official employee of the House of Hades

round gorge
#

I see you stand your ground against the serpent’s flame

round gorge
queen dome
#

Hades arena

#

Do i need to buy aspect of guan yu to unlock every other hidden aspect?

queen dome
round gorge
#

Uhhhhh

#

I got mirage shot and lightning rod in one boon

#

Both of which i don’t need

#

The only thing i have with cast is demeter radius chill whenever i cast

#

I am now in a weird position where i must chose between one of those or rare true shot

mint coral
#

I'd take rod

#

Is just great passive dmg

#

And gets better the more zeus you add

#

Cuz I assume this is not a cast build

round gorge
#

I took mirage bc i already had zeus special on lucifer bombs

#

I didn’t really need the extra lightning

#

Also i just changed my snow burst for a skelletal lure

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And it got me my first seamare

maiden wave
#

Which attack boon is the best for the bow?

round gorge
#

Ok this just became a bombas build

round gorge
maiden wave
mint coral
round gorge
mint coral
#

Oh do you have hiddens already

maiden wave
#

The what

mint coral
#

Then no lol

round gorge
#

Is it hera bow?

mint coral
#

Hiddens are the aspects with a ??? Name

round gorge
#

Yes

maiden wave
#

I didn't meant aspects btw

mint coral
#

Ah I see lol

#

Default bow I just take high rarity aphro attack

round gorge
#

If it is hera, try something like aphro that boosts attack, or arty for crit chance

#

It it is chiron go for either dio or zeus special

mint coral
#

No they don't have aspects yet

round gorge
#

Or even demeter

maiden wave
mint coral
#

It is good but is more than aphro has the highest % modifier

#

Epic attack lvl 1 is 91%-100%

round gorge
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Also there is the boon that makes weak like ruptured

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Oooop i meant exposed

maiden wave
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I also use aspect of hera

round gorge
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I always confuse those two

mint coral
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Aphro also has a stupid good duo with zeus

round gorge
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Oooh

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Yes

mint coral
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With hera is usually arty attack

round gorge
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Or you could also go aphro like with zag

mint coral
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Because you can then take hunter's mark and get cast crits

round gorge
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It will boost even further the damage of your cast shots

maiden wave
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I'm very confused right now

round gorge
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Why?

mint coral
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For hera
Start aphro's cast, grab Demeter's snow burst, artemis attack + hunter's mark

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Zag bow:
Aphro attack + twin/triple shot, gg pretty much

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That's the summary version

round gorge
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Chiron just any boon that gives an effect that stacks / is zeus boon

mint coral
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Zeus sucks with chiron

round gorge
mint coral
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Do you know about the internal cooldown

round gorge
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Although i usually tend to just pick aphro or dio

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That exists?

mint coral
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Yeah

round gorge
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Wow