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I think so yeah
You can ask in the speedrunning servers mod channel for help installing
ngl i dont see the power in Zeus shield
like yes is good
but like i dont feel is better than most other things i have tried 😭
Its more like zag shield and chaos are both nothing in comparision
The zeus special does so much more than them
And the shield being a shield in itself is very defensive
Of course a lot of value comes from the high skill ceiling of zeus where you start expertly using your bashes and special, knocking enemies together to deal with them faster etc etc
Thats actually a fair point
i was comparing it to other weapons
Yeah that make sense + i just got the secret shield aspect and is good but i would say is not straight up better than Zeus
so is pretty much 2 equally viable choices
Pretty much
And zeus does really well with heat
Anyone knows how to get pass witches circle without getting a crap ton of damage?
After beating 32 heat before i can agree
There are specific set ups to consistently kill them all immediately with the battie familiar
You always get damaged unless you got the keepthing of Nyx
ohhh i thought they meant chaos circle
not necessarily
😭
also it's from chaos
yeah mb
it works best with explosive return and playing around the special more
Do you happen to have the link to the battie set ups for witch video
Witches circle as in the 4 long range minions in lava area
The melee weapons break projectiles with their strikes
shameless plug
Yeah i can see building around it to do good damage but i meant more in general compared to the rest of weapons, i had the idea that was one of best ones in general
it's pretty slow overall
Yeah ik how is used for it
So you can keep yourself mostly safe while getting to the witches and then deal with them up close and personal
ngl i feel like i could do 62 heat with something else but i dont see myself enjoying the hours and days or more it would take me to get a good seed
😭
A simple divine dash does do numbers on the witches fight (other athena boons do, but to varying success on different weapons)
Honestly i simply wait
O alright. There are so many orbs that when I dash I always dash into them
i always use athena melee
if you work up to it, it's not dependent on a good seed
oh reasonable
Thnx
but i don't like being beholden to their attcks
Thats true but i would say is most of the start, like having enough dps to finish in less than 5 minutes is the issue in early game
thats fair
depends on the aspect
styx is so much more of an issue with EM4
but yeah some tart rooms can be very very rough
or slow....
i swear
every time i use heat time
i get those 50 minions
slowly spawning
i one tap them
but they suck the time
😭
real
real
i think i've had tarts where every room but 1 have trickle unarmored witches
anyways, a good place to start would be working up to 50 and taking it from there
finding an aspect that you genuinely enjoy playing and vibe with is nonnegotiable for pushing that high
How do i unlock the locked heart on skelly
Unlock 4 (I think) weapons aspects other than Zagreus
Then finish the quest he gives you afterwards
What are weapon aspects
Special styles to your infernal arms. You need to get all weapons before unlocking aspects
Those are aspects. You need to unlock the aspects themselves, not the levels
Oh
Hi xx
Hello
Damn I hear that one's good
Are the big yellow drinks important?
Aegis has 2 max heat clears so yeah it's pretty good
The one that u get from boss
Ambrosia? Yeah you'll need some
Do they matter if i change some to the blood
I'd advise stocking up
Ok why?
Is jt bad thst I changed every one iv gotten to blood
You'll need them for the epilogue and upgrading companions
Stock up at least a fair number
Ok
Wait that's for upgrading companions
Shoot I'm broke as hell
How do i get more then playing heat
Trade with the broker regularly
And yeah fishing on the surface
Ok
What does the legendary fish om the surface give?
I think the legendary's titan blood
Wich is the better aspect for the bow
Nope
Then Hera it is I think
Chiron imo
Ok
What keepsake should i use
Chiron is pretty fun but no it's not that good
I like lambert plume coin purse or just god boons keepsakes
Sea storm and relentless volley has led to 1k per special for me its insame
Start with either the coin purse or an olympian of your choice
Ok
Well no shot a specialized build can make it good
Yeah but I think it's just the best with or without build
Is it bad i use skellys one at hades
Sea storm isn't really a specialised build I use it with everyting
If you need the extra life then go for it
Though acorn's better
Ok
I do that
Someti,ws
Cos I cba leveling the acorn
Max level acorn can spare you an entire defiance I think
Yeah but I'd lose it to the poison dsrt blasters
Oh damn
Cos 5 hits isn't enough when u suck at the game like me
I think he doesn't summon satyrs
U have to go through styx with it tho don't u
Yeah
And I'd losr it then
I hate the blow dart dudes
@queen dome cussing is bad
Sry
Same
You should preferably never be poisoned for more than 2 seconds
Cures are everywhere
I forgot
I know there's a 142% dodge build from... Haelian, I think?
I think mine capped somewhere between 60% and 80%
Yeah saw that
What does 142%dodge mean
My record is 50
Can't be hit
Ive gotten 20😭
Dodge overkill, deny all damage
Daymn
Lambert plume carrys dodge builds
1.2 percent per room cleared fast
Aspect of zAgreus gives 15%
Wait yall talk abt how many %yall got hitten
That of course requires max level plume and high rarity dodge boons so you need some luck AND good clears
40-60%
?
I wouldn't use it personally
Twin shot is pretty good wdym
The reduced range is well worth doubling the damage output I think
Erebus? Or Chaos
Chaos
Fr
Cosmic Egg is bad simply because of how unreliable the gates are
No, let me explain my point
The gates are unreliable. You can go a whole run without catching a glimpse
Nuh uh ill buy gates if I have to
Or you can get Ixion on every single well
Nvm double shot op
No clue wutbhst id
If the egg made the gates a bit more frequent even if it meant removing the rarity bonus or not denying the damage to enter, they'd probably already be better
I personally hate it
I just want the hammers alot
The item that forces chaos gates in
Nah egg is goated as now
Yeah I love it
I take chaos over hammer
#give me hammer
You can only get 2 hammers per run
Ik
Asphodel my nr2 opp
Why.....
Sad
Is there anything like hammers I the sequel
I do 600 dmg per shot lmao
Not bad
Whats the highest someone has gotten
Sometimes you'll get the anvil at Styx which can get you up to 3 hammer upgrades
But I don't like it much
Yeah anvil is goated
I want a daddalus keepsake
Hades 1 is not getting updated afaik
I have underestimate the bow builds
This is so op
I did 1/4 of hydras hp with one shot
Now to get to the bosses without dying
ugh I keep dying to redacted, I've succeeded three times (Zeus shield, Nem sword, fists) but have had like five failed runs since the last one and I'm just tired of this
Want a tip?
Well actually first, are you sticking to which weapons?
I just did 1.5k dmg on one hit
Sure, tips are good! Mostly been playing with Achilles spear and Nem sword on the failed runs.
I keep doing fine until I get to Redacted so clearly there's a skill issue on that fight 🙃
Do you have keys for the bow or other weapons?
Yeah, got em all unlocked
Cause I'd kinda recommend growing acustom to those aswell
They all play differently and force different reflexes for hades
Fists and sword are up close while bow and exagryph are good for learning spacing
Yeah I've learned that I really just like to be up in my enemy's face
But I'm real bad at the timing on dashing to avoid those big melee hits if I'm right there
Yeah, even though I know they give you fewer iframes than just a regular dash
I'd recommend not using them too much for hades
He chases you down
So you dashing at him is. Kinda just wasting i-frames unless you've built into dash attacks
Gotcha
He also only uses 3 combos first phase, while second phase he uses them less
I'd say 2nd phase is easier if you dash into the vases
With a dash boon
thanks! yeah, the vases are rude
I'm okay at managing the lasers but I'm not always great at dealing with environmental hazards (see also, why Asphodel is the hardest zone and why I hate the poison in Styx) so being able to deal with the vases is a good call
It's why bow and exogryph are great
They never are in range, plus exogryph snipes him during laser
Fyi mostly use your aids either during laser if invincible, or straight after laser
Gives most free time to damage
sniping during laser is great, with the short-range weapons I mostly just stand on his face and hit him during laser instead of hiding
it's basically the one piece of the fight that I actually have mostly not had an issue with
if you're in his hit box, the lasers don't hit you
Mmm it’s more like be intentional with them
Dash striking is the best dps option for most weapons so not using them isn’t a great idea
You have to learn when it’s time to empty dash for frames and when you’re just going to want to dash strike
I suppose yeag
Though due to my use of. Bow and exogryph, I don't dash attack often
Myself
Oh no
I just unlocked skellys mission
I dont want to do that😭
I like him too mucj
You gotta man </3
Hes my favorite character
He deserves a proper end though. I say take him to the tartarus bridge with shield, then take a drink of smth beforehand
Talk to him for a final unique message aswell
I missed it my time :[
No
It has to be sword
Use shield to push him, then use full lvl sword
Only sword of zag works
You can trade for it
Enjoy skelly's last days
Mhm
…I mainly use bow
I would throw myself off a cliff if dash striking wasn’t a thing on bow
yeah it is
It’s a faster charge for less damage but the dps is better and it’s safer since it’s quicker
I think
Yeah no I dont-
I don't dash attack often because it's clunky on certain control schemes
Are you kbm?
I would change the control scheme then
Kbm?
Keyboard and mouse
Nah, I like the control scheme for everything but dash attack and genuinely just, don't care for the option of it often rn
No controller
Wait no I'm thinking of fists. Cause of uppercut being annoying. Geez I'm sorry I am not- here,,today
Brain isn't 100%
Oh the d-upper on fists does take some getting used to
Given you can dash upper if you special soon enough after a dash strike
You could roll your thumb around the strike and up to the special
Like hitting b->x->y but it’d still be a little awkward
That'd dash strike normally though
You can dupper straight out of the same d-strike
Lemme see if I can find the video that has the optimal fists dps rotation cuz it’s a good demonstration
Huh, iteresting. Genuine off topic question btw- do you deal with asterius or thesius first? (Both measures and none)
The bull
No measures: both at the same time
Measures: theseus out of the way first
I always remove asterius first, both ways
If u kill the shield guy first u have to have the bull and the summoning too
Asterius is far easier to deal with when you don’t have to keep an eye on theseus
I also don’t have much experience with the EM3 fight because I don’t even run it for my 40 heat pacts
I just don’t like it as much
Everything is easy dodge for me as i have soulsborne ptsd
That damn promise concort rhadan
Thesius is arguably easier to dodge on EM3
It was a mistake playing the game
His rockets are heavily telegraphed
The gun weapon is so ahh💔
What-?
The one that shoots rockets
It’s pretty decent with just lightning and static discharge
Eris, and Hestia both stand on their own pretty well without hammers
hestia is a good aspect even if you intentionally tried to pick the worst boons for it
150 base damage is just really really good
I haven't tried it cause. Idk, I just haven't used exogryph as much as my 20 bow runs-
Yeah
Not true
Idk man Eris and Hestia be looking pretty fine without hammers
I'm mostly referring to base exogryph when I said that since I don't have experience with Eris and hestia. Should've clarified
Dawg Rama feels like playing on easy mode 😭
Shared suffering 🤑
celestial sharanga 🤑
Artemis greater call continues to be ez mode and I love it so much
me waiting for it to charge 
If artemis greater call is ez mode I wonder what dionysus and zeus minicalls are
baby mode?
(Easy mode)^2?
idk but neither of them does a half of redacted's life bar in one go
like they're both great, don't get me wrong, and I'll absolutely take them
That’s true, they just do more damage than artemis over the same amount of charge gauge used, for more consistent dps, and don’t get harmed nearly as much by Hades breakpoints
and can be used reliably in regular rooms
cool
Have any of you seen what the bosses say in response to you being in the red? Like, I've only seen Theseus' reaction to it, taking it as an insult, but I need more insight (don't know if Asterius has one, but I'm sure the Furies and Hades do).
In the red?
low health
Wouldn't guan yu be best for that?
... I dunno why but Thanatos relationship makes me feel weird...
Nyx: Sorry, I am not your mothe-
Zagreus looking at Thanatos: ...
You’re not the only person who feels that way
Even if you throw the “it’s greek mythos” it’s still like
they grew up together as far as the story was concerned
Nah its fine
How do people even get 64 heat, I couldn't access it when I put on every mod (my record is 8 heat if that matters)
It's a jail of their own making. Having two female dating options yet no males when everyone is pretty would suck. Yet literally all guys not related to zagreus in one form or another have lovers or is skelly
You have to wait till you get game credits fyi, then buy it
One Measure is missing
Oh damn, how much is it
You’ll have to be on hellmode
One entire heat condition is missing (Personal Liability)
and then you’ll have to have reached the credits to get extreme measures 4 as well
Oh, that socks will I have to restart my save file to have hell mode enabled them
You can find the right thing to switch in the files iirc
Or just install a mod that lets you do it (easier option)
Oh OK thanks, do you know if therwa a mod launcher like tmodloader with steam or is it some website
I think it’s Nexus?
Oh alr ty
I’ll ask the one person I know who has it
Anyways I wouldn’t worry about 64 heat at the moment because that’s a herculean undertaking
Only a handful of people have ever completed it, and more often than not they do it with the speedrun modpack to reduce start of run rng that would make them reset a bunch more
Just wondering, beat heat 8 the other day and think I might be ready for the next step
If you’re trying to do it in jjmps
8 -> 20 -> 32 -> 40 -> 45 (optional) -> 50
ReListically I'll probably jump to 16 soon first
would be your pipeline
Thanks
Rn I'm just running aspect kf chiron in jumps to see if I can beat it with my best aspect, if I can't I'll lower a bit until I can
there’s also a 32 heat guide pinned in #h1-high-heat-strategies that has a ton of relevant info for running 32 heat and beyond
Oh your aspect of choice is chiron?
I would consider using a different aspect when you get to around 32 or 40
still fine for 32, but 40 and above it begins to fall off hard
Also yeah highly recommend having a step at 45. 40 heat and 50 heat are two different games entirely
Damn, any suggestions other than bow aspects?
I mean if you like the aspect you should play it
You're not nearly at the point where Chiron is unuseable
Wait when did they add aspect of lu bu? Is that h2
my name is a joke, dw about it lmao
aspect of lu bu doesn't exist
i just wish it did
Oh i only heard of lu bu in smthng called record of ragnarok so I thought it was real
I was talking in terms of bow aspects
Hi there, I have a problem with completing Sisyphus storyline. I have completed the whole game, maxed out everything. I can't seem to get the Nyx dialgoue even after 50+ runs. Is there anyone having the same issue? I would like to finish the last achievement. Thank you for your answers.
God I love that series
His please help me out,
I currently play hades on my iPad Pro M4 , the touch controls are a nightmare making the bow practically unusable.
I want to use an external controller to play the game, even the Netflix page says I can use a controller, but it doesn’t work.
https://help.netflix.com/en/node/133884
( currently own :-
Logitech MX MCHNCL M , keyboard
Logitech MX MASTER 3S, Mouse)
Supergiant doesn’t reply to mails and Netflix chat and helpline are…. Let’s just say a spiral down to hell.
Anyone who knows the solution pls DM me
Regards
Getting started, gameplay questions, and troubleshooting info about Hades.
This is for hades only
His please help me out,
I currently play hades on my iPad Pro M4 , the touch controls are a nightmare making the bow practically unusable.
I want to use an external controller to play the game, even the Netflix page says I can use a controller, but it doesn’t work.
https://help.netflix.com/en/node/133884
( currently own :-
Logitech MX MCHNCL M , keyboard
Logitech MX MASTER 3S, Mouse)
Supergiant doesn’t reply to mails and Netflix chat and helpline are…. Let’s just say a spiral down to hell.
Anyone who knows the solution pls DM me
Regards
Getting started, gameplay questions, and troubleshooting info about Hades.
Check #h1-tech-fixes
And if nothing helps Ask in #h1-tech-support
Just confirming that you have spoken to bouldy at least once?
Otherwise you might be suffering from rng dialogue, or you may have missed a dialogue line from Meg/Hades about Sisyphus
I have spoken to bouldy multiple times, I take his buff too, whenever I see it. I got the Meg/Hades lines but the Nyx line never came.
It is so strange to me since I have beaten the game with 32 heat and I can't get this last companion for some reason.
Welcome to the nyx gamble machine
Don’t u need to gift him a couple times as well
What do i do with the keys now that i have unlocked every mirror of night
Skelly scammed me
trade
Ok
You know, when I first played hades 1 I didn't like it, it's now in my top 5 favourite ever games
Got both Heart Rend and Low Tolerance with my Weak source being Crush Shot 😭 the game is reminding me to use my cast the hard way
Honestly give its crush shot, I’m on your side here
I wouldn’t touch crush shot without a 10 foot Hera aspect pole
No Blown Kiss no Empty Inside no Sweet Surrender nothing
The Hestia shot is affected by Ricochet Fire???
i would keep the keys, you need a lot later on
just make sure you doing all your work orders from your contractor 👍
I traded all keys into nectar
I think I may regret my decisions greatly in the future
Crush shot literally loses its one done side with hestia and the shield
And becomes a monster. Sadly dionysius lingers 4 ever
so does hypnos wanting asterius' autograph have a conclusion? if so do i have to do anything specific to get it?
Alternate dying at the miniboss asterius/heroes dying to theseus/dying to asterius (boss)
There's a guide on the wiki iirc
Did you mean Hera?
Hestia does not fix Crush Shots problem, it doesn’t do anything for casts
And Beowulf cannot get crush shot
It gets Passion Flare instead
So my initial statement is correct
The only time I’d touch Crush Shot is with a Hera Aspect pole
Yea sry
I hate spear 😡
from my memory u need to die from asterius 5+ times
Please help me out,
I currently play hades on my iPad Pro M4 , the touch controls are a nightmare making the bow practically unusable.
I want to use an external controller to play the game, even the Netflix page says I can use a controller, but it doesn’t work.
https://help.netflix.com/en/node/133884
( currently own :-
Logitech MX MCHNCL M , keyboard
Logitech MX MASTER 3S, Mouse)
Supergiant doesn’t reply to mails and Netflix chat and helpline are…. Let’s just say a spiral down to hell.
No one helped me in the h1- support .
Anyone who knows the solution pls DM me
Regards
Getting started, gameplay questions, and troubleshooting info about Hades.
Please. Move to #h1-tech-fixes or #h1-tech-support
Die to Asterius and Theseus a few times iirc
ive beat hades once, should i do some heat, what to do now?
Do it again
with heat involve?
the main story of the game needs you to beat him 10 times
Yeah do heat
Recommended pact options pinned in #h1-high-heat-strategies
can i do that without heat??
Yes
yup, but use a few levels so you at least get some bounties
what do bounties do?
Titan blood is used for aspects, diamonds for specific House Contractor stuff and ambrosia for maxing affinity
whats affinity? exp?
Affinity gauge for each character
You know when you give them nectar and get a keepsake
That's 1 heart in the affinity gauge. Some characters give you companions when the gauge is completed
And maxing Olympian affinities is required for the epilogue
Ambrosia is also used for upgrading those companions
Get on to it
also is it alright for me to spend titan blood at my current state of the game
you'll get plenty more through bounties, use them on whichever aspect you like most
^
how about the mirror of night, which skills should i max out first
death defiance, greater reflex, thick skin, deep pockets, dark foresight, fated persuasion
#h1-high-heat-strategies has mirror setups
ive gotten a heart on all Olympians or at least one heart but not zeus
is his boon rare or something
then i must be a very unlucky person
i dont think ive seen a zeus boon in a long time
You may just be filling out your god pool prior to seeing him and then you aren’t able to see him for the rest of the run
I love fisting the enemies
I have 40% dodge rn lmao
Is there a cap to the father thing?
Daymb
Can I have multiple duo boons in a run?
I'm trying to fulfill the "all duo boons" prophecy and all I have is Ice Wine left, and I got the right boons for both, but it gave me Exclusive Access instead. That's my best pick out of the three I have, but I don't know if picking it up will stop me from getting Ice Wine.
You can
OK, good. Thanks.
Only a few duos block each other
And is basically only cast duos blocking other casts
hey guys, what's the best weapon in the game? i'm kinda struggling to beat Hades
i have 10hs at the game, idk if i'm slow or not lol
bought poseidon aspect for sword, but i read that zeus shield is better, is that true?
every weapon is good, but plenty of players get their first win with the shield
being able to block helps a lot against hades
yeah i just bought zeus aspect, gonna try with this
also is any god recommended or it doesn't matter?
get thunder flourish from zeus, then try to get static discharge
nice, thank you man
worked! first win 
Now do it on 32 heat
congratulations! you just finished the tutorial 😃
hope you enjoy the game 👍
Weak, do it on max heat and no boons or hammers
The last boon of the run (in the room with the satyr sack) I get a choice between:
[DUO] Any boons you find are at least epic
[EPIC] Any gems, darkness and gold chamber rewards will be worth 60% more
[DUO] Any poms of power you find give +1 level
...
At first glance, I see two duo boons and an epic and I'm excited. Then I read them and realise they all do literally nothing.
I mean Ocean’s Bounty would purely be resource gain unless you’re still striking off bounties
Extra darkness is always nice for Ranks
But I'm not going to have any more chamber rewards. It does nothing
You get darkness from Hades if you’ve already taken his bounty on your current heat level
and gems (regardless of if you’ve taken the bounty) if you have the work order for it
Oh right gems from Hades
Ιτ’s a fair amount too
Somewhere in the 250-500 range but I can’t remember the exact amount
All hail Vanquisher's Keep
||i'm trying to get to the final ending but i don't get what i have to do. i'd tried to give nectars to gods but even when i do i'm blocked with a lock sign. even after a tone of runs to talk to theme. what am i missing?||
Each npc has their own favour that you have to complete before their last heart(s) will be unlocked
To finish the epilogue you have to have 6 of the olympians favours completed
If you want to check individual npcs favours I’d look them up on the Hades Wiki
i tried with dionysos
did what he asked
and.... nothing
one last heart but can't give him anything
Dionysus’s favour is completing 6 other npcs favours no?
Oh they reformatted the wiki 
It sounds like you haven’t completed many (if any at all) favours so far, so I’d be surprised if you were able to get dionysus’s yet
Full story can be unlocked at 0 heat?
Was there any story to be unlocked from buying decorations?
This is for H1...
Yes
There’s dialogue and some in game decor for pushing heat though
Main story*
Yeah no need to push heat for the main story
Titles are cosmetic?
Yeah
Should I take Sea Storm or Sweet Nectar (I'm at Styx, can still pom 3 times)
In fact there's an item in the shop I forgot what was but I know there's at least 3 I can get
Aee you going to be able to afford those poms? I mean if you’re planning to take extra tunnels I understand but otherwise
It’d also depend on how much sea storm would actually benefit your build
Epic Side Hustle and I'm running every tunnel
What aspect and where is Poseidon
I got Jolted and my source is the totally awesome Varatha special
Mirage Flood Shot
Uhh
I think I’d take sea storm 
Yeah
why's Aphrodite naked 😭❓
love and lust tend to go hand in hand
god forbid a woman do anything
ok do u have any advice i cant even get past the huge snake
dashes give iframes, dash strikes do not
you can stunlock enemies that don't have armor
observe enemies' moves and think about how to dodge them
mobs have at most 2 different attacks
ty dude
will try that
That's her in near any incarnation
Out of curiosity, does anyone know the percent of players that have beat 32 heat? Is that number available somewhere?
Not available anywhere afaik
It’s not captured by steam achievements
and otherwise it would have to be logged on a person to person basis
Thanks. Yeah I saw it wasn't on steam but just wondered if somehow there was some other metric. Thanks
I think it’s a good chunk less than any of the steam achievements
but couldn’t tell you a real number
The second Skelly reward is 7.5 percent of players. Probably a good bit lower than that but yeah I guess we'll never know!
Just assume it's half skelly reward 2 x lowest amounting achievement
What heat do i take first
1
Tight deadline 1. Should be free heat.
Ok
Which weapons would have weird interactions if you could mix up all 4 aspects at once
Shield and bow due to castpects
Please do not pretend Zeus and Chaos wouldn't be crazy
Extreme Measures, at least up to 3. Learning the new fights turns them into free Heat
as long as we retain zeus' mechanics
It still spins and pulses damage and returns on command
Except there'd be 6 discs
Hestia and lucifer really wouldn’t mesh together properly
Shield would be rad tbh
Chaos x zeus
And Hellfire becomes a free damage zone
Possibly even with beowulf special damage
If you don’t give it arthur’s dash strike it’ll be good
The thing is you HAVE to merge them all in
I'm curious to how Gilgamesh would kill the fists though. 12 hits on that thing for Demeter 💔
approval process giveth and approval process taketh 😭 😭 😭
4 of my wanted boons get approved, but then twin shot gets blocked 💔
I lowkey didn't even know these guys had different attacks
Approval Process has blocked the one and only boon I wanted 3 times in the same run
rip
Used persuasions to reroll and the boon showed up again and got blocked again
if it were me and I used my persuasions to reroll and I still dont get it im just quitting the run on the spot
After this incident I never looked at it ever again
yeah ong im never putting AP back on
But does that mean that you’re always just running the hidden aspect moveset with the other aspects buffs?
Cuz that’s a massive downgrade for sword, spear, fists
i stole money from the grim reaper shopkeeper and i beat him then he gave me the card
does it last for only my current run or forever
when do you unlock rerolling
just for the current run
it's an upgrade via the mirror of darkness
hmm I thought I unlocked everything in the mirror
I guess I'll have to check that next time
the mirror has two sides
ye
its the last upgrade you unlock
fated authority/persuasion
you get it with the gods pride/legacy, which increases the odds of epic or duo/leg boons
Fated persuasion is the one you are able to reroll the boons/hammers/well of Charon.
Fated Authority as far as I know you are only able to reroll the gates.
(Pardon for the lack of experience, I did not use that one.)
yeah im pretty sure thats it
I was so silly. I used to use deep pockets all the time up until last week when I discovered the other one.
The one keep giving you the 15% of your total coins.
i think thats golden touch
how did you discover the other one 😭
isnt that the default one?
the one that gives coins on start
wait im stupid
anyways yeah that one is pretty fun
yeah mb I thought you said that you used to use golden touch before discovering about deep pockets
Question, what is your favourite piece from the OST?
Mine is Lament of Orpheus.
I dont know the name of a single one lol
@rough token
Hello! Hope you are having a great day. I believe there is something wrong with the bot?
Oh it’s fine. When does it play?
The ones Orpheus plays?
Or the one at the Barge of Death?
I don’t blame you!
They are all pleasant to listen to.
no escape might be my favorite tbh
i've heard it so much that ive been conditinoed
I know I said I didnt have a favorite, but i lowkey just figured it out
what's up?
This exactly.
Does not not what matter what you text this message is keep popping up.
That's normal behavior for the bot - it's automatic
just a general reminder
Oh, okay! Just wanted to check in if it was a bug!
Take care now!

golden touch is lowkey worse
How come?
Sure as a beginner you should start with deep pockets.
The earlier shops are the most valuable
But when your skill improves gold touch is great!
When your skill improves deep pockets becomes even better
golden touch only gives you value if you aren’t using your obols and that’s a sacrifice you shouldn’t be making
the earliest shops are the most valuable because they allow you to secure gods in your pool, and it means you then have whatever you bought for the rest of the run
Being able to secure take shops and get gods you want into your god pool earlier is massive for build consistency
I just save it will the Styx place.
And buy everything including Charon himself.
…yeah but it’s less effect overall
I just need them titan blood 
Also lost my save file.
If you’re farming titan blood then sure it’s a fine mirror upgrade
But for general use it’s just better to take deep pockets
Different play styles is what makes this game unique and great!
Yeah but it’s not true to say that you get more value out of golden touch is what I’m throwing down 
It’s huge opportunity cost to hoard obols
Right, I forgot.
I don’t see myself playing Hades 2 anytime soon tho. The game is nice and all but I am just in love with the original.
I’ve been playing Hades since like 2021 and I don’t really plan on switching
Will get all the achievements and then maybe I will play it.
I got it as a birthday gift from my literature teacher last year lol. She is a fine person.
I also see that Hades 2 is not the exact same as Hades which is understandable but as far as I’ve heard the gameplay is just a bit different than what hits right for me in Hades
I’ll probably buy it at some point but only once it fully releases
I hate to pirate indie games but I did pirate the second one. Whenever I am able to buy the game though I will buy it for sure.
Even if I won’t play it. Just to support the team you know?
Yeah
I have purchased Hades twice 
Once for switch and then when I was leaving my switch with my little brothers when I went off to university I got it on steam
That’s cool!
Also the new update for Hades 2 The “WarSong” update just gives me flashbacks for Silksong
It’s been over half a decade 😭
It’s never coming out
That will be the new [something happened] before GTA VI
I can’t believe we got GTA VII before Silksong
Jokes aside GTA VII ain’t dropping in our lifetime.
Unless you were born like a day ago I suppose
yay im getting gta 7
I have 85% dodge lmao
Wait isnt hades based in greek mythology
So why is everyone british
Would you prefer they speak Greek
I dont mind it but i find it funny how they have a british accent
Iirc is everyone from the UW british/Olympians are american
Fitting
❓
plenty of characters don't sound british to me
meg, persephone, nyx
who let the antler enjoyer out of their chamber
I don't remember the exact wording but it was said in an interview/AMA pretty sure
I mean, nyx and Meg have reverb
I was conversing with Dusa and she mentioned how Zagreus's accent is different from the rest who are raised in beneath the surface. Then I realized she was right. Thanatos, Megaera and Nyx, all had the general American accent while Hades and Persephone, from Olympus, had a very refined, upper-class English accent (rp english). The only reason Za...
Wait so you swapped them-?
Olympus is in Greece. But gods are not Greek. For example Hermes is Asian. Athena is black. Etcetera.
they are greeks lmao, just cause athena is black doesnt mean shes from somewhere else, shes still the daughter of zeus
same goes for hemes
You are right. the Greek gods are, of course, rooted in Greek mythology, but their designs and interpretations vary because the development team at Supergiant Games comes from diverse cultural backgrounds. This international perspective influenced how they reimagined the gods, blending traditional Greek elements with fresh, modern, and unexpected artistic choices. Their goal was not strict historical accuracy but rather a unique vision that felt both familiar and new. I believe this approach allowed them to craft a world that resonated with a wide audience while still honoring the essence of Greek mythology.
Sorry yapping 😭
I mean that’s how I see the things at least.
their visual design doesnt change their game original, they are still from the same place
It’s nothing confirmed I think.
Why are you trying to argue? I just agreed with you.
it is confirmed, athena is the daughter of zeus
I never denied that in the first place.
then why would she be from another place just cause shes black
Dear, I just agreed with you. Those are my first words in that paragraph of mine
I just admitted my mistake to you.
its the but that comes after
After but it says their designs. Please re-read it.
I just picked up a build with the bow that could theoretically allow me to deal up to ~3600 damage in one shot
I am talking about their designs.
What…
The mythology can very well have characters that are birthed someplace else tho
Odin for example isn't Nordic simply because that's where the mythology is from
knowing greek mythology, and especially zeus they were all born in greece
Is it the Charon one?
Artemis and Apollo as far as I know were born in a remote island because Hera was mad at Leto
Hera?
the queen of olympus
lemme just list off all the boons I pulled for this build gimme a second
what i do find weird is how apollo is black, and artemis is white, even tho they are supposed to be like twins
There's many cases of non identical twins. There's a biological word for it but I forgot
Hades 2
Ahh
Mods make anything possible tho
Do mods disable achievements in steam?
If you mod it enough you could have any of the 3 thousand gods
no
Theres 3k gods in greek mythology?!?!
Ok
I mean that's what I've heard
But Zeus being the dog he is I wouldn't doubt it
I need to up my greek mythology knowledge💀
btw this is with aspect of zagreus
Divine Strike
Atrophic Strike
Chain Shot
Hunter Dash
Triple Shot
Battle Rage
Urge to Kill
and that’s just the damage boosting boons
also for it to deal the max amount of damage possible it requires ridiculous luck and a little setup
and a bazillion enemies
I’ve only had one arrow this whole run deal max potential damage
olympians thre are only 12, but there are countless gods in greek mythology
By 3k of course we mean not just gods but the lesser ones and the demigods
The most important ones are in the Pantheon
yes, the olympians
All i know are the ones in god of war 3
lmao
My history teacher is often caught mistaking their names and roles because there's just so many
These days he said Apollo was the god of war and wisdom
We dont even get greek mythology in my school
lmao
I have to learn my own way
Thanks!
I don't have mythology either he's just using them as examples sometimes
i get my mythology knowledge from smite
and that’s with most of them at common
if any of em were rarer I’d be doin ridiculous damage
I swear I gasped when I heard that
(I already am)
To add salt to injury some classmate said Apollo was the god of the sun too
At least that one makes sense
Helios, Ares and Athena were all a dream
just wait and see, I might pull something better
also^2 that’s with no damage boosting items from Charons well
so just
imagine
Some days before he said the west wind was called Artemis
He pulled up that Venus painting where she's emerging from the oyster, Gaea on the right and Zephyrus blowing on the right
With a nymph holding Zephyrus
He said Zephyrus's name was Artemis
Is this a good build
Aspect of Achilles
doom ares attacks
triple jab thingy
Athena deflect dash
Zeus chain lightning cast
Hermes extra dash (3 dashes)
Hermes speed boost
Is hades ever coming back to gamepass?
It’s kind of just lacking the synergy of a good build
It’ll definitely work
But it’s not as good as one where your boons are comprehensive and work together well to really kill on the aspect
Hm okay what do you recommend?
The only thing I need for runs is the Athena dash so u can change everything else
Crazy to need athena dash 🫡
There are a few really solid builds for achilles
Mmm
It’s my favorite boon
Artemis strike + ares cast is really nice because you get the crit chance on strike with Achilles massive +% boost to strike, and their duo boon hunting blades really pushes your casts to the next level
So ideally you’d start with artemis’s keepsake to get her on strike
for hammers you want flurry jab first and foremost, and then either triple jab or extending jab
greatest reflex is good for extra dashes, but another route you can go with Hermes is hyper sprint -> rush delivery for a good global additive damage boost
Okay I see
There is also Merciful End with does use divine dash actively, where you would run doom on strike, then athena special to unlock their duo boon (the aforementioned Merciful End) and then get divine dash because you’ll be using it to take advantage of merciful end
Merciful End lets anything that deflects attack drop doom when it hits an enemy
So a dash strike hits an enemy, gives them doom, and then divine dash hits them and the doom immediately drops
It’s a pretty common build on all melee weapons, but achilles does just make better use of cast based builds
Wow this build sounds fun
So ares strike with Athena dash
With merciful end
How do I even ensure I get any of these boons?
Keepsakes get the gods into your god pool
And you can typically find the boons just by having the gods in your god pool
Dark Foresight (the mirror upgrade) allows you to get more boons and obols overall so you’ll be able to hit everything more often
And then Fated Persuasion seals the deal on finding things usually
Although Merciful End is a bit less consistent then other builds because you need three cores instead of 2 for it to function properly, and you need 2 specific cores instead of any 2 cores like other duos
What’s a god pool
Whenever you take a boon from a god(dess), they’re added to your “god pool” for the rest of the run. Once you get 4 gods in your god pool, the game only shows you those gods
(Hermes and Chaos do not count)
And you can’t remove a god from your god pool once they’re in it
Essentially, by getting boons from 4 olympians, you cut down the odds of getting any given god’s boons from
1/8 (or 1/7 if you haven’t reached the surface yet), to 1/4
Charon sells daedalus???
Yeah he can
Oh I see
So once you get 4 God boons you can only then get boons from them
Yeah it practically doubles the odds of you getting the boons you need
You can still force gods into the god pool if it’s full by taking their keepsakes
But that’s not an ideal scenario to be in
And should only really be done if you managed to completely fill your pool while missing one crucial god
Hmm okay I see
So for my optimal Achilles build I want Artemis, Ares, Athena, and one other
Probably zeus or dionysus cuz you don’t have anyone who’s got a good dps call
zeus opens less duos to get in the way of finding merciful end or hunting blades
Yeah but it locks you out of all of your actions
So while it’s good damage
Zeus and dionysus do a far better job at pumping out damage while still allowing you to do your thing (you’d be using minicalls with 25% of your call guage for this)
if you mainly use calls to avoid damage then poseidon isn’t a halfbad option
Just lots of hangover stacks with high damage
Yeah
There’s no ingame limit
Is hades ever coming back to gamepass?
In H1, is Zagreus weak for a god, or is it merely that he has not come into his own yet?
Maybe it's got something to do with his birth?
He wasn't supposed to be, the Fates said
uhhh I completely forgot that plot line 😅
How come I get 4 duos without Gods' Legacy 😭 RNG will never be this kind again
It will be with enough runs
Source: me
I have a full catalogue of photos of me getting 3-5 duos without legacy
as anti legacy propaganda
What’s legacy
Of course! I recommend you using “God’s Legacy.” +10% chance of getting duos/legendary boons!
You should study each gods boons as well. To see how to get them duos and legendaries.
The boon codex page is extremely useful in this matter
(remember boon codex is an unlockable)
Yeah but doesn't take too long to unlock
i cant tell if this is sarcasm
I don't think so, just garden variety failure to read the rest of the conversation
I mean, it's useful
But Pride is still better unless the build relies on a specific duo
Guys chaos doesn’t want to give me the funny round thingy
I want my beowulf aspect
But he just doesn’t care
Shield is literally my most used weapon, and yet he still doesn’t want to give me the aspect
Do you have Guan-Yu revealed?
You may just be suffering from the rngfest that is unlocking the rest of the hidden aspects because you need 2 rng dialogues to get the awakening phrase
I have all aspects but beowulf
And i’ve been taking to chaos every time i get the chance
Have you got the dialogue from Chaos acknowledging your use of the shield yet? (Needs to be gotten while using the shield)
Idk
You’re probably just unlucky with the rng dialogues, but I’m trying to gauge whether you’ve gotten the first and are just waiting for the awakening phrase or not atp
Is the all-seeing artifact line the kickstarter to the beowulf chain?
Sounds like it
Unless it had a special effect to it
Then it’s 100% the awakening phrase
Out of all the times hades could not fight me he fought me when i had one of the strongest builds
Nvm it was worth it
YOOO ITS MY BOY CHARON
Is this the game ending?
Well that was peak
Kinda
What now tho
Replay
Why would it be?
Did you spend enough titan blood? Do not count aspect of Zagreus.
Epilogue is worth it.
I have like 3 aspects at max level
Forget that I asked…
hey everyone, is there anything I can use to make the boss fight with Asterius and Theseus easier 😞 or any specific thing to do
keep the two apart, and target the bull first. fighting both at once may be optimal, but also really hard so I would not recommend it if you don't think you'll get away with it.
I was at the top and i forgot to fish......
The game literally tells you why you keep doing runs afterwards if you go talk to Hades
Since you’re then an official employee of the House of Hades
I see you stand your ground against the serpent’s flame
do you mean greece or hades arena? Bc if you mean greece you can still find those fish in hades arena
Just reveal
Alr good
Uhhhhh
I got mirage shot and lightning rod in one boon
Both of which i don’t need
The only thing i have with cast is demeter radius chill whenever i cast
I am now in a weird position where i must chose between one of those or rare true shot
I'd take rod
Is just great passive dmg
And gets better the more zeus you add
Cuz I assume this is not a cast build
I took mirage bc i already had zeus special on lucifer bombs
I didn’t really need the extra lightning
Also i just changed my snow burst for a skelletal lure
And it got me my first seamare
Which attack boon is the best for the bow?
Ok this just became a bombas build
Aspect?
The ones that change a weapons attack, i forgot the name
Crit chance bow or oke of the other 2
Oh, secret aspect
Oh do you have hiddens already
The what
Then no lol
Is it hera bow?
Hiddens are the aspects with a ??? Name
Yes
I didn't meant aspects btw
If it is hera, try something like aphro that boosts attack, or arty for crit chance
It it is chiron go for either dio or zeus special
No they don't have aspects yet
Or even demeter
Is weak that good?
It is good but is more than aphro has the highest % modifier
Epic attack lvl 1 is 91%-100%
I also use aspect of hera
I always confuse those two
Aphro also has a stupid good duo with zeus
With hera is usually arty attack
Or you could also go aphro like with zag
Because you can then take hunter's mark and get cast crits
It will boost even further the damage of your cast shots
I'm very confused right now
Why?
For hera
Start aphro's cast, grab Demeter's snow burst, artemis attack + hunter's mark
Zag bow:
Aphro attack + twin/triple shot, gg pretty much
That's the summary version
I only have hera
Chiron just any boon that gives an effect that stacks / is zeus boon
Zeus sucks with chiron
For me it works fine
Do you know about the internal cooldown
Yeah
Wow
