h1-discussion

[tepid light]

So a guaranteed 2 sack wouldn't mean much for me personally

[limpid cave]

wow installing mods really is that easy

nice to see after I spent like 4 h ours trying to mod fnv

is there any documentation for all the mod options? Since I'm not sure what getting vormied is or what interactable chaos is

also leaderboard minibosses, etc.

so I don't have to ask for everything

[fierce junco]

not getting vorimed is getting all 4 boon choices at the start (vorimed meaning you never get the core boon you want at the start)

[limpid cave]

Ah, thanks

[rustic vale]

Purely makes your game less rng dependent

[rustic vale]

Vorime -> pro Hades player is speedrunning at a live event, rerolls with all his rerolls in first chamber, doesn’t get the one core he needs and kinda just has to roll with it

Can’t really go “whelp, we’re restarting the run”

[limpid cave]

Oh good to know

seems like I can't put minibosses on vanilla, it keeps resetting to leaderboard

also what about 1st boon rarity rng? That's kept as default or?

since thereotically you can just keep resetting until you get an epic one

[fervent radish]

yes

[fervent radish]

there's another mod called first boon epic that most high heat players run with

it's not speedrun.com legal so it's not part of the modpack

[limpid cave]

honestly seems fun

Ello's boon selector or is it another one?

[fervent radish]

it's specifically called first boon epic

ello's wouldn't work for c1 hammer

[limpid cave]

Hmm c1 hammer + first epic does sound a bit too strong

eh, it sounds fun though so I'll take it

not like I'll use c1 hammer too much

[fervent radish]

it's what i play with lol

c1 hammer is mostly for certain aspects

some aspects really can't do c1 hammer well

[limpid cave]

I can't find it on nexusmods

[fervent radish]

oh i just had it sent to me by a heat player

if you join the speedrunning server, someone will drop you the file

[limpid cave]

oh alright

thanks, I'll join it

[fervent radish]

i sent you an inv

[crude bolt]

How does one get the lyre prophecy?

[fervent radish]

play it a bunch and talk to orpheus a few times

[crude bolt]

How many runs does that require?

[rustic vale]

Not an amoumt of runs

It takes playing the lyre 210 times total

Orpheus will note on your improvement 2 or 3 times

as you hit different thresholds

just do a few after each run until you get it

don’t worry, Zag does actually get better

[crude bolt]

oh my deity 210 TIMES?

there is no way 😭

[rustic vale]

Yup

If you do it 10 times between each run that’s only 21 runs

[crude bolt]

well time to lose 30 minutes of my life

[crude bolt]

I'm trying to run ME again, can I put doom and dire misfortune on my malphon attack and will that work?

Oh also I didn't get ME and I'm about to fight Hades (screw you athena)

[lavish sorrel]

Prefer Impending Doom. Dire Misfortune will never stack when you're using ME since ME clears the doom-effect when it activates.

[crude bolt]

well i didn't get it :D

IBy the way I got both impending and dire misfortune

ooh yeah im going to win this time

YES

[crude bolt]

Oh my gosh it does work I just obliterated Thesis and Minotaur

[stiff obsidian]

dire misfortune goated on eris

300 dmg doom does like 450-500

[limpid cave]

Does olympian favor work on doom?

[steep comet]

spread fire or seeking fire?

[stiff obsidian]

neither

[bronze drift]

Polo

[steep comet]

well the 3. option is even worse so i dont rly have a choice

[stiff obsidian]

what is it and wat r u using

[bronze drift]

Yes

Answer

[stiff obsidian]

wat

[steep comet]

eris

hammer upgrades

[stiff obsidian]

wats 3rd

[steep comet]

idk, already picked

[bronze drift]

Bro did not wait

[steep comet]

im not a patient man

[bronze drift]

Polo is

[limpid cave]

Is acorn still the best defensive keepsake even for em4?

[old bluff]

Yes

[tepid light]

Especially for em4 tbh

I don't use it much myself cause I just find it kinda dull, and it's not as helpful for styx itself

[mint coral]

Just don't roll the bad summons

[rustic vale]

…the mirror upgrade that boosts the odds of rare boons does work on doom yes

[tepid light]

I'm going to guess they meant a different mirror upgrade

[rustic vale]

if you were referring to family favourites, the mirror upgrade that gives +5% global additive per god, then yes. any time a boon/upgrade doesn’t specify what it boosts, it boosts all your damage sources

including flat damage ones

Such as sweet surrender, rush delivery, targetting system, family favourites, priviledged status, pierced butterfly, skull earing

[limpid cave]

Sometimes context does wonders, yeah I meant family favourite, my bad

thanks

[pliant pecan]

Who do I kill first in EM3 theseus or asterius?

[harsh scroll]

Personally I always kill Asterius first regardless

[last veldt]

Question: what are the conditions for getting the special dialogue from Dad about not being helped by Olympus. Like, does Hermes count, or maybe chaos? Or does the dialogue just not always trigger? The was the first boonless run on this save and I got to Dad with zero Olympian bond and only Hermes and Chairs and Bouldy. Is Bouldy a secret Olympian??

[harsh scroll]

Hermes IS an Olympian, I'm pretty sure

[last veldt]

I thought not. He doesn't give core boons after all.

Damn, he is under Olympian gods not others of note.

[fervent radish]

I mean canonically he is an Olympian lol

The requirement is to not have any sellable boons by the time you reach dad I think

[harsh scroll]

How many times do I gotta talk with Ares after finishing his favor until the gauge is unlocked 😭 I think I've met him at least 5 times since then

[rustic vale]

While he does work differently he is still an olympian

like

Ofc he doesn’t give core boons, but you can also only get 2 of his boons per run (aside for a 50:50 for an extra from Styx), and he glaringly avoids the god pool mechanic

So you can always get him

Regardless of how many other gods you have

[mint coral]

The dialogue specifically requires non sellable boons iirc

So yeah chaos is fair game

[lost schooner]

Turns on godmode after 50 deaths.

Godmode still starts at 20% so I still have to die 30 more times to get full effect

Oh goddammit

[harsh scroll]

Ok I've got to say I was NOT expecting EM3 Theseus to maniacally laugh as he bombards the arena

[limpid cave]

For nemesis sword, do I just go aphro on attack or arty?

[lavish sorrel]

both work, objective being to get heart rend obviously

and poseidon dash is still a must because pure crit-nem is bad

[hallow fern]

damn hades is so deep

still discovering new things

like theseus has so many voicelines about ariadne

[last veldt]

Okay so just because I'm weird, I decided in my new PS5 save (sucks you can't import from PS4) to just never talk to Dusa. Don't want to see her get into trouble. However I'm just not getting Persephone to trigger the epilogue yet. I know I won't bond with Aphrodite until I've done stuff with Dusa, but apart from Demeter, I've got everyone else. Is not talking to all the house servants going to stop the epilogue from triggering?

[jovial dove]

Greater consecration good for first hammer on aspect of Arthur?

Or breaching slash

[lavish sorrel]

both are mid-tiers (for high heat at least)

not detrimental, but not the best

[bronze drift]

Artemis shall not aid you with this one

[jovial dove]

Mmm do I pick vengeful Mood clouded judgement or scintillating feast... I wanna get smoldering air for Dio funny :(

Only vengeance boon i have is ares

I guess feast is the good option here, no?

[fervent radish]

stickybot making me click through every single channel

[lost schooner]

The result of almost 20k lines / 300k+ words

[hushed widget]

anybody know the chances of getting damage increase to weak enemys or nah? bc i feel like its been forever since ive seen it when i have aphrodite in my godpool

[fervent radish]

you have to have a boon that applies weak first

i get sweet surrender offered here and there. it's just rolled out of her available secondaries

[hushed widget]

yeah normally i save it for either my attack slot or my special slot

and then i have it just, rotting there

[fervent radish]

i mean

depending on the weapon, aphro can have some of the strongest boons in the game

[hushed widget]

fists

[fervent radish]

ehh

not really on fists

[hushed widget]

i mean my fist god pool is artemis aphrodite posidon and ares

[hollow rain]

aphro special on demeter fist is fine no?

[fervent radish]

arty is better

[fervent radish]

so ideally ares is on attack and poseidon is on dash

or athena on special and dash for merciful end

[hushed widget]

that makes sense since ares has the best attack upgrade for after having 1 of his

imo atleast

[fervent radish]

ares, zeus, and dio all work on fist attack

[hushed widget]

being able to stack doom on a weak enemy when having increased damage to weak enemys, then throw a crystal on them, heave damage right there

when you take off the dogs collar do you lose the HP buff? kind of a dumb question but still

[fervent radish]

not really that valuable

[fervent radish]

yeah

[hushed widget]

realllly? i thought it was super good but okay lol

i still hate the duo

its still the only roadblock i have in this game

[hushed widget]

the heros*

[fervent radish]

impending doom is just ok

sweet surrender is one of the lowest global damage boosts in the game

and dem cast is the worst cast

[hushed widget]

dem casts?

[fervent radish]

that's what you mean by crystal right

if you mean bloodstone, that doesn't affect doom damage

[hushed widget]

ohh

i thought it did

i might farm gemstones, so i can have keys to both get the last upgrade area, and to buy diamonds to get better stuff and morew gemstones to get more keys and bla bla bla, would that be smart to do with or without chaos buff and posidon buff

[fervent radish]

nope, only attack and special

[fervent radish]

idk whatever works best for you

starting with tidal dash works with basically every aspect

[hushed widget]

okay, ima try farming gemstones for keys, now that i see why people do it lol

[fresh light]

i thought elysium was awesome when i first got to it, now i find it exhausting doing my keepsake grind

I need a better way to handle the shield guys, they just slow me down so much

[hushed widget]

on railgun pierce shots work, and on most other weapons you can just stun lock them

[fresh light]

seems like sword special hits em if u have doom

im just leveling up keepsakes for the achievement, i have more than half done.

[tepid light]

Also, they have to spend a few moments 'recovering' after doing their multi-projectile attack, so jump in and punch them in the back then

[fresh light]

will try to notice that next time

[tepid light]

👍

[hushed widget]

wait so how do you get hidden aspects again?

[tepid light]

check the pinned message in #h1-story-discussion

[hushed widget]

i completely forgot i had to unlock all of the sections for the weapon

lolll

[harsh scroll]

Wait until they attack, then dash and backstab

Or just attack normally if you get the piercing upgrades from hammers

[tepid light]

there are also certain random things from boons that bypass the shield

support fire for instance, if i recall correctly

[harsh scroll]

Yeah some boon generated attacks bypass it too

[tepid light]

yet another reason to take support fire on fists and just go full monkey brain

[bronze drift]

Objection

[tepid light]

Overruled

[bronze drift]

Underruled

[tepid light]

Overwritten

[bronze drift]

Overbitten

[harsh scroll]

If the weapon has fast attacks I'm always picking Support Fire tbh

[tepid light]

that is support fire's purpose

love it on fists and rail

[rustic vale]

To be fair that’s on behalf of all artemis projectiles piercing shields

It’s in her nature

Her casts will, her call will, support fire will

[tepid light]

Yeh I get that ofc but I imagine most people are surprised to learn that support fire pierces as well

[crude bolt]

I just tried fighting Hades and he just... didn't
what the heck

I mean free win ig

[lavish sorrel]

ggs on credits

One of the best pieces of music in the game incoming

[crude bolt]

I completely agree with that

was an amazing song 9/10 would listen again

[harsh scroll]

You can buy it to have Orpheus sing again iirc

[tepid light]

congrats, you'll never get a free win again, enjoy it while you can lmao

[harsh scroll]

I mean, by the time you get the free win you kinda can beat it without much difficulty

There's a reason you get the Pact

[tepid light]

Nevertheless

[crude bolt]

NOOO I'VE BEEN EMPLOYED TO PROFESSIONALLY DIE

[tepid light]

I think this is the best reaction to the story I've ever seen

[jovial dove]

w

[jovial dove]

finally got the free win

been waiting to get to this point for a while

aspect of zeus ME build for the win

[tepid light]

seems you're liking aspect of zeus

[jovial dove]

fr

its fun

that and aspect of Arthur probably my favorites

so far

nemesis is pretty fun too when you get used to it

[tepid light]

welcome, fellow arthur enjoyer

excellent choices

[jovial dove]

probably my favorite moment in this whole game so far other than this fire credits scene is the part where zag mentioned people hades let go freely

i was wondering if odysseus would be mentioned

and he was

[tepid light]

i actually don't remember what he says for odysseus

remind me?

[jovial dove]

nah he just says something along the lines of what about all those people you let go free

i think i screenshotted it

1 sec

ah yes

"Oh, that can't possibly be true! what about orpheus, theseus, heracles, odysseus? countless tales of brave men delving into the underworld, then leaving whence they came!"

it was at the dad fight part

at some point

[indigo badge]

i still remember my free win
was playing eris rail, took the styx anvil and it gave me hazard bomb and that stupid upgrade which makes your rail shoot a short range blast

[jovial dove]

lol

oof

[indigo badge]

i was 100% sure i was gonna fail and he just let me pass

🔥😂💯

[jovial dove]

lmao

probably pretty lucky he let you go

its in the blood fire song

[fervent radish]

Best aspect

[jovial dove]

love how persephone greets cerberus first

doesnt even care about hades

lol

[jovial dove]

absolutely

[tepid light]

Gotcha

Also have you played artemis strike arthur yet

[jovial dove]

not yet

[tepid light]

do it

it's hilarious

[jovial dove]

how so

[jovial dove]

is it a specific build or is it just a really good boon?

[tepid light]

nah, it's just that with how hard arthur's swings already hit, making them crit just leads to funny big numbers

especially with the third swing

it's not terribly consistent or optimal, but it's very satisfying

[jovial dove]

ahahahaha

i see

[tepid light]

Critting on arthur third swing actually gives me years of life

[jovial dove]

lmao

every crit increases your lifespan by 1 year

PFFT

YEP

3rd hit crit goes hard

800+

jesus

christ

834

rare tier artemis strike

pommed once

[tepid light]

Are you playing it right now

[jovial dove]

yes

[tepid light]

Most excellent

[jovial dove]

ah yes, got more vs armor crit damage

and uh

1k crit damage

is wild

my lifespan has been increased by at least 5 years

1134 damage hit there

[lavish sorrel]

News flash: average arthur player lifespan is now 81 years instead of 80

[tepid light]

beautiful

[jovial dove]

lol

[tepid light]

i like going athena/artemis duo alongside all the other artemis boons to boost your crit chance as much as possible

[jovial dove]

good idea

got the funny water man

poseidon

[tepid light]

poseidon special on arthur

quite nice

[jovial dove]

if i get the opportunity i will

time to grind this pink crystal down to a fine powder

600 damage cit on 2nd strike

holy

thats like half the crystal's armor hp

yep it got turned into a fine powder

oo epic hunter mark

[tepid light]

artemis strike arthur is the good stuff

[jovial dove]

or epic artemis aid

going mark here i think

probably best idea

[tepid light]

Yeah I think Mark's better

As much as I personally love Artemis Call, I can't in good faith recommend it overall

[lavish sorrel]

(Note: athena or aphrodite are usually preferred at high heat. Arty attack for crits really does feel good though I'll admit, and leads well into some interesting duoboon-options for dealing with small enemies 😌)

[jovial dove]

im only on 3 heat lol

900 pog

1104 on a non-armored enemy

..

wow

to be fair i have atk dmg jerkey on too

aaaand 1400

or so

bro this is insane

extremely satisfying

[tepid light]

Ayyy lmao

[mint coral]

now add RD or a few chaos boons

[jovial dove]

do i go for shop in hopes of deadly reversal from athena or artemis or do i snatch that hammer?

[mint coral]

what was your first hammer?

I assume this is ely

[jovial dove]

havent gotten a first hammer yet

nah im in asphodel

[mint coral]

ah

[jovial dove]

doing dc2/em1 rn

[mint coral]

dc2 arthur

[jovial dove]

..yes

[mint coral]

anyways I'd prob go for the duo?

ideally from arty for hunter's mark as other option if you don't have it already

[jovial dove]

i do have mark

and athena dash

[mint coral]

if you want big swings the only hammer that helps is shadow slash

[jovial dove]

ayyy artemis boon

NOW GIVE ME DEADLY REVERSAL

[mint coral]

do you have athena's special

[jovial dove]

eh support fire isnt the worst

oh wait do you need that for dr? dang

[mint coral]

yeah

same pre reqs as ME

[jovial dove]

then this common tier special will have to do

that

that was artemis special

dang

im dumb

[mint coral]

[jovial dove]

extremely dumb

please give purge pool i beg of you asphodel

who do i want as my fourth god..

i have artemis poseidon and athena

[mint coral]

could stack jerkies with hourglass

and/or ichor if you have the chance at RD

[jovial dove]

whats rd-

[mint coral]

rush delivery

hermes boon, extra speed is converted to dmg

[jovial dove]

o

[mint coral]

needs hyper sprint (ideally) or greater haste to open

[jovial dove]

but ye whatcha think i should use for a fourth god?

[mint coral]

I mean, prob zeus ig?

but I wouldn't force him on ely

[jovial dove]

ight

ill look out for em

is mirage shot worth getting when i have stygian soul on?

[mint coral]

not worth but just bc you aren't doing cast build focus

[jovial dove]

hyper sprint w

I JUST NOTICED

WHY DO THE TINY CHARIOTS MEOW

[mint coral]

Lol

The big ones do a roar iirc

[jovial dove]

yeah never noticed that lol

:( artemis u mean to me

no deadly reversal

and i dont have fated pursuasion yet

clean kill is alright i guess

[fervent radish]

Not even the world record takes dc lol

[jovial dove]

ah yes the fish taunting hades

WOO

a 3rd hit crit to finish him off

[fresh light]

What is a good aspect of Lucifer build. I like the triple bombs. What scales well with that?

[bronze drift]

I use the laser mostly

So like I use Zeus, much Zeus

[fresh light]

Zeus best for laser? Ok

[bronze drift]

I think so

Also his legendary and other boons just add on

[fresh light]

I'm at the point where I just need to keep doing runs to finish my keepsake and I'm finding the rail with Lucifer is the fastest so far did me

Thank you

[mint coral]

Zeus atk + jolted, triple bomb best hammer + arty or aphro specials

And take a damaging dash (ideally poseidon's) for extra dmg and easier time detonating the bombs

[jovial dove]

ive

ive seen something

something that i never expected to see

i knew than and meg were romanceable characters

um

well then

im gonna go have some mac n cheese now

and act like i didnt see that

[indigo badge]

see what

[jovial dove]

so uh

i dont know if i wanna say

[fierce junco]

schizophrenia

[fervent radish]

Lucifer is completely playable and arguably stronger with just the special

If you get triple bomb, arty special is a good build

[jovial dove]

super soaker funni

[hushed widget]

wells of charon are the random buy stations every here n there right?

[fervent radish]

yep

[hushed widget]

thanks, btw is there any super difficult trophy i should focus on doing last or not really

[fervent radish]

trophy?

[hushed widget]

achievement

[fervent radish]

oh

nah not really

all of them are pretty attainable. maxing keepsakes kinda sucks

[hushed widget]

thorn of thanatos seems difficult but really easy at the same time

[hushed widget]

maxing is just really slow it seems like, bc isnt like 75 encounters per max?

[fervent radish]

yeah something like that

[mint coral]

Just click hestia

[hushed widget]

reword that please?

[mint coral]

Hestia aspect of the rail

It starts off really strong and has range so you can rack up butterfly procs really early

[hushed widget]

oh, i already use rail alot whatever the ammo aspect is because i dont have the hidden one just yet

[mint coral]

Then just gotta play a few ely chambers safely and done

Ofc it helps if your butterfly is max rank

[hushed widget]

my butterfly is getting there, ive gotten it to 10%, but thats before it was level 2 so maybe ill get it easy ish, dont know yet honestly

[hushed widget]

i didnt know those baths in the rooms in final floor were cures... i would be winning so many more runs if i knew that

actually, i dont think i would be loseing any to not final boss

[indigo badge]

didn't you ever think to ask why poison is so hard to deal with

cause most people do that and we tell them about the pools

[hushed widget]

no 😭 i just thought it was a skill diff lmfao

[tepid light]

hey, live and learn right

[jovial dove]

yuh

[pliant pecan]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1234725598115663994/1336343609863049216/image.png?ex=67a37678&is=67a224f8&hm=fb598d2be2199ec091c753f076566ef78e4b1dca2077fd729427958c79206990&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=687&height=386

Seastorm is better here right?

[jovial dove]

zeus call correct?

unless you're relying a lot on dash and cast id pick smoldering air

[tepid light]

Ehhhh I could see an argument for either

[jovial dove]

true

i personally would pick air

[tepid light]

I'd pref sea storm

[tepid light]

Probs just pick for yourself here

[pliant pecan]

NVM I ended up getting both lol

[jovial dove]

pog

i love murdering small rats with literal excalibur

[tepid light]

what strike you using this time?

[jovial dove]

used artemis again

we love seeing 1.4k crit damage on dad

[tepid light]

tru

[jovial dove]

any good cast builds i could try? i haven't ever tried doing a cast build before

[tepid light]

depends on the aspect really

certain aspects are specifically designed around cast use

[jovial dove]

and we love seeing half of dad's hp gone in one greater call from artemis

[stiff obsidian]

what aspect

oh nvm

[stiff obsidian]

pretty sure it doesnt do that much dmg unless you get rly lucky

[tepid light]

i mean at very low heat with good boons it's not that hard

[fervent radish]

Yeah I’ve never been that lucky

It always does like 1.5k

[stiff obsidian]

yeah

1/5th of the hp bar at best

[jovial dove]

im only on like 5 heat mind you

[fervent radish]

Even on low heat I don’t get those nukes

[jovial dove]

idk guess i was stupidly lucky then

it was 2nd phase dad btw

[stiff obsidian]

nice

[pliant pecan]

Aspect of Achilles is my favorite for cast builds
My favorite is Achilles + Hunting blades

[tepid light]

🗿

jokes aside yeah i do believe hunting blades achilles is considered quite strong though it's far from the only option for cast builds ofc

[pliant pecan]

Yeah it's just the most fun imo

[tepid light]

I rarely play it myself, I just prefer straight up stabbing things with achilles lmao

[rustic vale]

Nah

Smair is like definitely better there

[fervent radish]

I think it depends on jolted here

If Zeus call were higher level I would def say smair

[tepid light]

even ignoring my personal bias against smair, with lvl 3 poseidon dash and some other zeus boons, sea storm seems very good

[fervent radish]

If jolted is good rarity and pommed, sea storm might be more dps

(In all honesty I’m taking billowing here)

[rustic vale]

[pliant pecan]

I was playing gilgamesh with splash dash

[rustic vale]

It’s pretty good for reapplying jolted, I’ve just lost my critical thinking skills and forgot that jolted existed for 10 seconds 😔

Personal bias against smair is crazy like

What is there even to be biased against

[tepid light]

i've said this many a time, do you want me to go on the spiel again

[pliant pecan]

Yeah why do you have bias against a boon lol

[rustic vale]

No I understand personal bias against boons, just not seeing the angle for smair

[rustic vale]

I can just look it up

[old bluff]

Isn’t it that he likes to use greater calls

[rustic vale]

Probably 🗿

[fervent radish]

🗿

Ok yeah well either way with gilga sea storm is gooder

[rustic vale]

also yes I was gonna say, gilgamesh changes my opinion

Sea storm has a bit more value there

[pliant pecan]

Yeah I was going for sea storm build but smair is also super good

[tepid light]

.....Nah I'm not gonna fill up this chat with my dislike for smair, I'm just gonna move on

But yeah moving back to the topic at hand, smair + zeus call is obviously good, but sea storm + lvl 3 pos dash + whatever other zeus boons is just better i think

if zeus call and pos dash were at the same pom levels it'd be a harder choice

[pliant pecan]

Poms weren't giving me zeus call option unfortunately

[tepid light]

riprip

but hey you got both duo boons anyway right

[pliant pecan]

Yes, easiest win of my life

[tepid light]

ezgame

[rustic vale]

Sea storm + pos dash + jolted is my bottom line

otherwise I think smair is better damage

but being able to consistently apply jolted via sea storm

is way better when your only other jolted applier is zeus call

[tepid light]

barring some truly unfortunate luck, i usually get jolted well before sea storm pops up

[rustic vale]

well it’s a player I’ve never met so idk if they know about the secret sauce yk

[tepid light]

gimme the secret sauce shackle

i need it for my steak

[rustic vale]

You already have it?

You already know about jolted

[tepid light]

I NEED SAUCE FOR MY STEAK DINNER SHACKLE

[rustic vale]

mmm I can give u like ketchup you ain’t getting the secret sauce

[tepid light]

ketchup on steak

you must think me some kind of degenerate

[rustic vale]

🎵 it might seem crazy what I’m about to say 🎶

[jovial dove]

secret sauce?

[rustic vale]

Just that jolted is actually the most powerful zeus secondary boon

Like your average Hades player does not know this unless explicitly told

[jovial dove]

ah

juicy

[pliant pecan]

I knew that, jolted is pretty cool
I usually pick it instantly if I see it

[jovial dove]

eternal chamber good on aspect of lucifer?

[rustic vale]

Yes

I mean normally it’s fine but it’s marginally better than other hammers because it increases your triple bomb odds on second hammer

[jovial dove]

SUPER SOAKER ACHEIVED

poseidon attack plus sea storm goes kinda hard

[bronze drift]

You light up my world like no body else

🎶🎶

[jovial dove]

o h

[bronze drift]

Something something beautiful

[jovial dove]

lol

[bronze drift]

I’ll listen to it now

I’m a learning creature

[fresh light]

Going for this thorn of thantos achievement

trying to just get zues on special with zeus aspect but i keep getting dion

[bronze drift]

Wouldn’t that take too much time to activate?

Like fists are prob best for that

[fresh light]

i just want to throw my blitz shield and watch them die

literally every time i hit give up i get dionysus first

lame

[bronze drift]

Real

[fresh light]

i bet u if i hit skelly twiice it wont tho, gonna test that next

[rustic vale]

This is easily solved by running zeus keepsakes unless you keep getting vorimed

[fresh light]

I am trying to get 30% damage on pierced butterfly

not an option

[alpine pawn]

shield of zeus makes it a lot easier

I just shielded in a corner

[rustic vale]

Oohhhh that oneeee

[alpine pawn]

and took 10 years for each floor

[fresh light]

I am using shield of zeus, but every time i start a new run i get dionysus on special... like 5x in a row. I want something different than inflicting hangover even tho its not bad lol

[rustic vale]

Hangover is not bad on zeus shield

[fresh light]

nah its not

[rustic vale]

but honestly not much is bad on zeus shield

[alpine pawn]

Athena dash is very nice for keeping u safe

[rustic vale]

you can run really whatever tbh

Aphro special, ares special, athena, zeus, dio, should all be fine

[alpine pawn]

also I 100%d the game thank u guys for ur tips

hades such a goated game

[fresh light]

stickybot go away

[alpine pawn]

im gonna block it

[fervent radish]

Probably worst special

[fervent radish]

Giving up doesn’t reset the starting seed

You need to die for that

[fresh light]

Just got it. Skelly in elysium came thru clutch

[jovial dove]

do you have zeus's keepsake?

[signal narwhal]

double boon rooms are usually best pick?

[fervent radish]

no, only if you need a boon from both gods or desparately need a boon to sell for UC

and even then, all gods except athena are pretty hazardous so i would avoid

the only times I would take them is on ME fists if there's a trial room in tart with both ares and athena

[signal narwhal]

poseidon special on chiron is little weird

pushes enemy outside special range

[rustic vale]

Not just weird, bad too

[fervent radish]

chiron special is a little weird

and bad

unless your name is timothy lincecum

also ew discord update

[signal narwhal]

i think theres a typo in one of theseus voicelines/speach

"Ahh, at least! Come, Asterius, lets vanquish this blackguard!"
wasnt it supposed to be "blaggard"?

[fervent radish]

blackguard is the word, theseus says it like blaggard

https://www.reddit.com/r/asklinguistics/comments/ri9934/why_is_blackguard_pronounced_blaggard_when_the/

interesting etymology

[iron epoch]

Awww Theseus mention he's so cute when he says blackguard he's so cute in general awww awwwww

I love Theseus so much

[jovial dove]

im gonna hit theseus where it hurts

in the ego

[iron epoch]

If I were to do that and I could I'd mention Hippolytus. It's his weakest point.

"THESEUS:
My child, I am destroyed. I can no longer take delight in life.
HIPPOLYTUS:
The thing you did was wrong. I weep for you more than for me.
THESEUS:
If only I could die instead of you."

Also
"THESEUS:
O Goddess, let me die!"

[old bluff]

Wish granted https://youtu.be/xUOIs5oI-mI?si=myqBCzI2a5zuTNle

[hushed widget]

i feel like turning on godmode or whatever its called shouldnt actually be used ima be honest

not saying edward did but im js saying for a general thing

[stiff obsidian]

💀

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[pliant pecan]

I think it's a good option to have for players who are having a hard time

[stiff obsidian]

oh i read this the other way around

[tepid light]

You like the Theseus and Hippolytus thing quite a lot eh

[fervent radish]

average obsession with theseus

[iron epoch]

I'm autistic and Theseus is my special interest and Hippolytus is my hyperfixtation. I've read that play over and over, I've read several translations, and I'm writing my own adaptation of the play called Hippolytus Unveiled. I've only read the Wikipedia synopsis for several other adaptations but I won't be reading them bc I will probably get frustrated bc many suck

[latent moon]

well some people aren't as good at the game as other people and might just be in it for the story

[iron epoch]

Hippolytus Unveiled comes from the first version of the Euripides play, Hippolytus Veiled

[latent moon]

god mode is fine and should be used if you feel like it

[iron epoch]

I'm so far from average when it comes to him

[tepid light]

I'm not judging you or anything, ofc

I just notice that you have indeed brought up Hippolytus quite a few times in this server

[latent moon]

the only time you shouldn't really be using god mode is if you want to submit the run to official places for speed or heat

[fervent radish]

i know, that was the joke /gen

[hushed widget]

i didnt know it buffed me i tead it and read "improve story" or sum like that and i was interested, didnt notice it did that tho

[iron epoch]

I got that! I was being silly back

[fervent radish]

it's just damage reduction up to 80%

[hushed widget]

gahhdamn

[fervent radish]

autistic unstoppable force meets autistic immovable object 🙏

[hushed widget]

idk what mine was at i turned it on before that run

[fervent radish]

idk how to check, could probably see in run

[iron epoch]

Yeah. Him not being in the game is my roman empire and I need everyone to know about him, especially his death scene bc I think about it every second of the day

[hushed widget]

how does 1 fiddle and diddle with heat bc ion see it and i really wanna do some silly funny haha things

[fervent radish]

wdym lol

you have to clear a run

and then you can modify it at the door where you start runs

[iron epoch]

I may be obsessed with Hippolytus but right now I'm glued to The King Must Die. I might make art referencing it once I find the time to do art.

[hushed widget]

thank you thank you, mb i wasnt at my pc but i do see now, this looks difficult and pretty fun to work with

[fervent radish]

Very fun, best difficulty system in gaming

[hushed widget]

defenetly one of the best ive seen(after using it yk)

its like, 3rd for difficulty system, first and second being blazblue entrophy effect and meta ghost proglogue

[hollow rain]

agreed

[stiff obsidian]

i hate heat

[hushed widget]

howcome?

[tepid light]

cause False plays at very high heat levels

[hushed widget]

then why not play at, slightly lower heat

[hollow rain]

my experience with heat is that at first it feels like you are adding difficulties and makes the runs more interesting. but when you start to go over 40 it feels you're just adding RNG and I can understand the hate (I stopped at 40 myself)

[tepid light]

Because he's already beaten lower heat levels and most people play heat to continuously beat higher and higher levels

[vague viper]

been a bit, when should one be taking flat on-hit boons like zeus / doom /hangovr

gun primary of course, fists? bow special?

[hushed widget]

i might go up to 59 just to see if i can beat the first boss i encounter

[tepid light]

on low-damage but rapid-hit weapons

yes, gun and fists are the primary ones

[vague viper]

yeah where is that threshold

[hollow rain]

59 is insanely hard

[hushed widget]

i knowwwww, thats why ima try n do it

till the first boss

[hollow rain]

ah till the first boss

[hushed widget]

if i get allecto as my fury boss, i win eassillyyyy

if its anybody else maybe not

[fierce junco]

[stiff obsidian]

[limpid cave]

That's just a wrong opinon to have

[hollow rain]

wait which one is alecto

[stiff obsidian]

the one which kills you

[hushed widget]

allecto is the only one ive beaten hitless

[hushed widget]

rage mettter

[hollow rain]

oh then I agree with Maksimovica

[tepid light]

a 'threshold' isn't really needed since there aren't that many weapons/aspects

in my experience: any fists aspect except gilgamesh, chaos shield, zeus shield, chiron bow, rama bow, any rail aspect

[void vigil]

alecto so scary

[hushed widget]

but she's the easiest of the 3

imho

[void vigil]

i can fight the other furies easily but i think i could still lose more death defiances to her than to the final boss

[hushed widget]

thats insane

[void vigil]

tisiphone is probably the easiest for me

[tepid light]

i understand you're speaking from personal opinion, but you'll find that the vast majority of people here (including myself) find alecto the hardest of the three

especially with EM active

[limpid cave]

I agree

[void vigil]

i mean i havent properly played h1 in a good while

[hushed widget]

idk how much EM changes her

[limpid cave]

Not that much tbh

[hushed widget]

i dont have it on rn i have increased enemy spawn on rn

[limpid cave]

but try turning it on if you feel comfortable, it's a fun heat to have

[tepid light]

that's probably the disconnect then

em alecto is

a headache

so many buzzsaws

[hushed widget]

if it just makes her perma rage the entire fight thats easy, just gotta use railgun, if its more on the side of theres more saws on the screen then ill rerun with gauntlets

[void vigil]

tisiphone with EM is probably kinda rough if you dont have enough damage to just phase immediately

which you can do easily with hera bow aphrodite cast

[tepid light]

i think you are vastly underestimating just how much damage she can randomly do to you

[fervent radish]

I love heat

[void vigil]

i love playing the video game on my computer hades (2018)

[fervent radish]

Probably doable

Also yeah Alecto sucks. Worst fury

[tepid light]

Tisiphone I find the easiest cause I always run athena dash and making her eat bucketloads of her own projectiles is always amusing

[hollow rain]

hum I prefer meg personnaly

a bit easier to predict imo

[limpid cave]

God I wish there was a way to see what killed me the most times

[hollow rain]

Lernie EM2 FO2 HL5

by far

I dont need to check ^^

those 32dmg headsmash

[limpid cave]

oh god

I'm finding HL2 too much sometimes

[tepid light]

should i post my own pact again

i'm sure i will get some strong reactions here

[limpid cave]

sure

[hushed widget]

i found a boss harder than the heros 😭 i never thought i'd see the day

[limpid cave]

I'm running a basic 32h pact nowadays, just with td2 since I'm a coward so my taste is not that refined

I'll try and get 32h with em4 tho one day, for now the best I got was 28h with em4

[tepid light]

hard labor 5
lasting consequences 2
convenience fee 2
jury summons 3
extreme measures 4
calisthenics program 2
benefits package 2
middle management
forced overtime 1
heightened security
tight deadline 1

[hushed widget]

why not max tight deadline?

does it also count for bosses?????

[tepid light]

yes, tight deadline also ticks down during boss fights

[hushed widget]

oh damn

alr nvm not doing 59 heat

i'd need insane RNG for that

[tepid light]

and oh boy, this is a topic i have ranted about many a time

[limpid cave]

dear god.

[indigo badge]

tight deadline is very easy until 2
it suddenly becomes an actual problem at 3

[tepid light]

i will simply say this:

I like heat modifiers that make enemies stronger, i dislike modifiers that make zag weaker

[stiff obsidian]

its fine if just till first boss

[limpid cave]

yeah td2 gives you 28 mins, while my runs are usually 18-24 mins

[hushed widget]

for max tight deadline i would need hangour greatcall, and when 5 stack increased damage by 50% to do it juesus

[limpid cave]

Try FO2 maybe, it's surpringly not that much of a step up from FO1

[hollow rain]

i disagree on that

FO1 i can handle

[tepid light]

No thank you

[hollow rain]

FO2 is really hard

[limpid cave]

fair enough

[hushed widget]

now that i think about it, tight deadline would only be a problem on heros and hades no?

[hollow rain]

I prefer the "get hit harder but less often" than "get hit often but less harder"

HL5 (5) / LC4 (4) / CF2 (2) / EM3 (6) / BP2 (5) / MM (2) / UC (2) / TD3 (6) = 32 Heat
This I think is the "standard" heat 32 from one of the pinned guide

HL1 (1) / LC4 (4) / EM3 (6) / BP2 (5) / MM (2) / UC (2) / FO2 (6) / TD3 (6)
and this the alternative

[limpid cave]

This is basically mine, tho instead of td3 I use hl2 and js2

[hollow rain]

more enemies but more time, makes sense

[hushed widget]

wait so fated persuasion is better than fated authority right?

because im thinking it is but i oculd be mistaken tbh

[hollow rain]

yes by far

rerolling boons is so good

this is why people running very high heat with RI are insanely dedicated people and I'm always impressed by their patience ^^

[hushed widget]

the skill diff between me n them go crazzyyy

[fervent radish]

Honestly you don’t really miss them after a while

You get plenty if you just prioritize taking keys

[hollow rain]

ok maybe AP2 is even more impressive then ^^

I tried AP2 as the only pact just to get a feel of what you guys go through

well damn

horrible ^^

[fervent radish]

Ah ap2 is uh

Yeah

Removes most of the thinking atleast

[hushed widget]

farming diamonds is annoying negl

atleast the way that im doing it, ik theres prolly a faster way but im not finding it

[crude bolt]

Respecfully, what the Hades did they do to my boy Lernie

[crude bolt]

n e c t a r g r i n d

[hushed widget]

i dont have a nectar grind, ive just been getting gemstone and using wine guys keepsake

what happends if i get all of the upgrades with darkness? do they just stop popping up, or do i just stock pile them and every here n there i can trade them in for a special offer at the shop

[crude bolt]

yeah you just get thousands upon thousands of darkness until your whole life after 100% the game is just getting darkness and there is never enough darkness and the darkness controls all and the darkness is coming and the darkness... you get the poin

[hushed widget]

major L, i was hoping that it would just stop appearing and then you get more keys n stuff like that

[crude bolt]

no lol you need heals

[hushed widget]

you use them for heals????

i stick loyally with my 3hp per room

[void vigil]

i like the darkness for heals but i am pretty sure that generally the 3hp is better

[hushed widget]

it helps out alot in the last floor

thats the only reason i like it

plus i bearly see or go to darkness rooms

[fervent radish]

Yeah ideally you’re not taking darkness rooms

[latent moon]

https://imgur.com/pFBSztd

[hollow rain]

Ahah

[latent moon]

for added context, you can't sell nourished soul in the purging well, so it's quite literally the most useless boon you can get with ap2 and uc

[hollow rain]

Oh you wrote the 32 heat guide right ?

[latent moon]

yeah lol

[hollow rain]

Thanks for it, I now cleared all weap 32 and spear 40 thanks to your advices

[latent moon]

lol nice np

do all weps 40

pretty manageable if you can do it on spear once

[hollow rain]

yeah I think I can do it but I'm trying the other aspects at low heat for now

I'm falling in love with Rama

[latent moon]

rama's a good choice yeah

big chunk good

[hollow rain]

yeah

but I dont think I'll grind over 40

seems that I'm just adding RNG at this point

[latent moon]

i think you can still do like 50 without ap2?

lemme see

[hollow rain]

i did 40 without even AP1 actually

I added FO / JS / DC iirc

oh and HS

[latent moon]

yeah 40 is very doable without ap1

[hollow rain]

I remeber in your guide you mentioned a 150dmg green trap during hades fight

[latent moon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/839538570738139146/1336600647499255830/image.png?ex=67a465db&is=67a3145b&hm=ba9fee8dde4b44951c352c45ffa766721016ef869e119bdc96d1bb4dc4170e84&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=637&height=676

[hollow rain]

I lived it

is that an appli you're using?

for the pact setting

[latent moon]

yeah someone made a website for it

gimme a min to send it bc i dont want to get bopped by the bot for sending links too fast lmao

[hollow rain]

thanks

[fervent radish]

https://hadesheat.onrender.com

[latent moon]

or he can do it lmao

but yeah that pact is only ap1 so you have the option btwn em4 or ri2 lol

assuming you can't switch to hell mode at least

[fervent radish]

Me thinking of fun weird pacts to do knowing very well what I’m going to do when I boot up the game

[latent moon]

62 heat?

[fervent radish]

Yeah

[latent moon]

nice

[hollow rain]

62 heat is all -RI4?

[fervent radish]

Yeah

[latent moon]

basically only keeping SD lol

[fervent radish]

Also huge shadow presence

That doesn’t work on the special lol

[latent moon]

true

[hollow rain]

CP/AP2/RI are really the last last thing you take at high heat basically?

[latent moon]

ap2 gets taken earlier than ri3 iirc

cp2 gets taken decently early after 50 iirc

typically cp1 is always taken bc of hell mode

cp2 is like the filler 1 heat when you want to get a nice number lmao

[fervent radish]

I personally think ri3 ap1 is a good balance

But that’s really aspect dependent

Some just really need boiling blood and/or the second dash

[tepid light]

i notice a glaring problem with this setup, Bananas

[fervent radish]

Lmao

[hollow rain]

on switch there is no way to magically make your save a hell mode one right?

I'm playing on Switch

[fervent radish]

Nope

Not without jailbreaking afaik

[tepid light]

Also random question, what happened to Packrat

[latent moon]

idk he apparently just left like 2.5 weeks ago lmao

this was his last message lmao

[tepid light]

Huh

Well at least he apparently left on his own

And wasn't banned or something

[lavish sorrel]

(Except shield sometimes)

Shields can handle ri3 usually since one can block

[stiff obsidian]

all of them can block

[tepid light]

New shield aspect that can't block

[lavish sorrel]

One can block with it.

Not one shield can block, duh

[junior cairn]

Hey I dont know if this is allowed in this channel but I'm looking for someone to do a Hades inspired design for me 🤣

[tepid light]

#fan-works , perhaps?

[signal narwhal]

Whats the point of playing beyond heat 20 when it not add more rewards anymore

||Fun ||?

[jovial dove]

it doesnt? wild

[jovial dove]

one may use the sheild to block an incoming attack

[lavish sorrel]

Challenge, accomplishment, fun

[tepid light]

Yeah, fun

It's an additional layer to the game

[jovial dove]

any good cast builds with aspect of poseidon?

[harsh scroll]

Exit Wounds is a must

[signal narwhal]

im just running athena casto n low blow doseidon blade, pretty nice combo phalanx shot with bounces from zeus and exit wounds

just got to 7 shards

surprisingly how well Artemis works mixed with everything

like ultimate support

[jovial dove]

what would be a good setup for heat 5

with a funni cast build

[lavish sorrel]

Anything works until like 32 or 40-ish
Though some stuff is gonna be easier / harder than other stuff obviously

If you want a good aspect / build to run at low heats (Anything under 16) feel free to look at the speedrunning guides (findable on SRC).

[signal narwhal]

https://www.leereamsnyder.com/hades-build-guide#stygian-blade

[lavish sorrel]

The first heats I'd recommend learning would be Tight Deadline 3, Forced Overtime 2, Extreme Measures 2

[lavish sorrel]

Asian, look, they're the heats optimally used everywhere no matter the category (except ff). Getting used to them is essential.

[tepid light]

I'm mostly just taking the piss with that react

If I actually wanted to start an argument over it I would have

Started an argument

What I will say, though, is that GleamingLight didn't say anything about speedrunning; they were just asking for general recommendations for Heat 5

So it's a little premature to to immediately get into optimal heat modifier discussion imo

[jovial dove]

did a 0 heat one with pretty much this build and it actually was really fun

never done a cast build before today

[indigo badge]

i mean, tight deadline is free until 2 anyway

em2 isn't exactly free but it's easy to get used to

forced overtime though? 🥶❌

[fresh light]

I am using double edge with nemesis aspect for sword. I am not really seeing an animation that the sword hits twice on dash strike, is it bc im one shotting stuff?

[tepid light]

It's a bit hard to see, but rest assured it's working

[fresh light]

i am hitting really hard lol, dash strike artemis boon, chaos dash strike damage, and double edge

[fervent radish]

Yep

Get arty attack or pressure points and the crits will be crazy

[fresh light]

gonna try

[rustic vale]

Fun

The challenge

[crude bolt]

should i use forced overtime for my earliest heat lvls

[fierce junco]

yes, if you plan on going higher as well, it is necessary

same with extreme measures

[crude bolt]

I can't belive they really decapitated my boy Lernie :(

[crude bolt]

but should I use it for early levels? Im not finding it too bad so far

[fierce junco]

yes, otherwise it becomes too hard to adapt when you're used to slow attacks

i tackled em4, and fo2 as early as i could fit them

[rustic vale]

If you plan on taking it all the way up to 32+ heat you might as well learn fo2 now

[hushed widget]

ngl 100%ing hades is so far a hassle

like 15 kills up on thanatos and some of the more collection based ones seem difficult

[limpid cave]

Idk, it came rather naturally while I was progressing through heat bounties for fun

I mean I'm barely half way there for the bounties

[indigo badge]

you'll get better the more you play
at some point you'll have that godly build that lets you delete everything before than can touch them

I've had encounters where than had ZERO kills

the only tedious trophy I'd say is maxing all keepsakes, that does take quite a grind

[hushed widget]

yeah it seems like most of it will be natural, but level 3 every keepsake, and some of the more skilled ones seem difficult(wow skilled ones seem difficult????)

[limpid cave]

I mean

the last achievement I got was bad idea xd

but yeah lvl 3 keepsakes are a bit annoying for the 1st row ones

[hushed widget]

but thorn of thanatos seems pretty hard idk what most of these achievements really mean

[limpid cave]

but the god keepsakes are fun since they encourage new builds

[limpid cave]

Try aspect of hestia maybe

if you have enough titan blood to upgrade it a bit

[indigo badge]

you can actually get that easily with rail or bow

hestia works great as said above ☝️

[limpid cave]

if on low blood I think hidden bow aspect is decent? Or hera aspect as well

yeah hera is actually fun

[hushed widget]

like prophecys i understand, but skelly's prize i dont understand, hidden aspect for me rn is RNG because im going for rail gun, and clearing a infernal gate without taking damage(i dont have infernal gates yet)

[limpid cave]

I mean you sound like you've just begun getting into the game proper, no need to worry about 100% for now

[hushed widget]

ill try it again with the rail gun, i stopped using it mid run and idk why tbh

[hushed widget]

the infernal gate was me not knowing how to farm gems n what not so now those are coming in andim getting the diamond renovations slowly

its 1k gems or so per diamond so its taking a bit

[limpid cave]

Just go for bounties for diamonds

[hushed widget]

if i see nectar im going nectar>diamonds

[hushed widget]

dont have it yet, nor is it in my buyable areas(that i know of)

[limpid cave]

I mean did you win a run yet?

if so, you have the pact of punishment

[hushed widget]

yeah

[limpid cave]

just put it high enough so it says bounties available

[hushed widget]

ive only gotten 1 done

[limpid cave]

try 2 then

or try other weapons

[hushed widget]

😭

[limpid cave]

See you're just getting into the game, why worry about 100% already?

If you enjoy it great, you'll get 100% without worrying about it

[hushed widget]

rail gun completeion lets goo cant wait to be stuck on him again till i get dionysus great call again, yayyyyyyy

[limpid cave]

if not, oh well

[hushed widget]

after i beat the main game of a bullet hell i like to 100% them alot, like binding of issac and mushimesama so now im just used to looking at achivements after im done beating the main game once and doing them\

[limpid cave]

I'm not sure you've beaten the main game yet though

[fervent radish]

Just keep playing then lol

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damn how many hours you got? or is it just mainly talk to everybody alot and clear runs an amount of times after talking to certain people

[hushed widget]

what counts as "fast clear" for hermes feather?

i dont wanna use it but i know i need to use it at some point and i wanna see how itll do with the dodge that gives you 2 seconds of damage

[rustic vale]

Depends on the room

[hushed widget]

any regular room

[rustic vale]

…it depends on the exact room

like

Some rooms naturally have longer times because they plan on spawning more enemies last I checked

[hushed widget]

wait is it like the timer that heat has that it popps up at the corner of your screen to tell you?

[fierce junco]

no, its a hidden timer, its also fairly lenient and can be fun to see how well you are tackling a room

good way of gauging if you are having trouble with a specifically shaped room, and can see how best to approach a difficult room by the chamber spawn manipulation guide

again, even without it helping you find your timeloss rooms, again, its still pretty lenient

[hushed widget]

what if you get the room were hades puts the 45 second timer on you?

[fierce junco]

doesnt count, nor towards the timer

[hushed widget]

okay i was genuinly curious lol

that must actually be a run killer for people doing 5min floors

[fierce junco]

you can use tight deadline and it will disable them if you want that +1 chamber for plume

[stiff obsidian]

theres a timer on the keepsake icon when you start an encounter

[hushed widget]

fire fire

good to know

idek what to do to get 15 kills over whatever his name is

mad difficult for no reason 😭

[fierce junco]

false side coming in clutch 😭 ✊

[old bluff]

Tight Deadline turns off survival rooms, but even if it didn’t, the in game timer is paused during them

[stiff obsidian]

🗣️ 🗣️

[hushed widget]

didnt know either of those tbh

[fervent radish]

100% usually takes 70-80 hours

[hushed widget]

i have 28 hours but realistically i have 7 hours

im a bit away

i have 30 runs attempted and 28 hours(i leave my PC on alot)

[fervent radish]

i wouldn't get too rushed to finish the game, there's plenty to do after 100%

[hushed widget]

thatll be fun

still having gamplay after game done

[fervent radish]

yeah, people have thousands of hours and still play

[hushed widget]

damn

i dont even have 300 hours in a game, but quite frankly this game feels well put together and doesnt mentally hurt me like some other bullet hells

[bronze drift]

It is wonderful

And I started Hades 2 and it’s also wholesome, Supergiant just nailed it twice

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do i have be using the rail gun for zues to give me the hidden aspect for it?

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whats the best way to farm necter for you guys, lowkey need alootttt

[fervent radish]

Just do runs lol

And trade with the merchant

[hushed widget]

ive been getting keys every time i see em, might start running that one upgrade that gives more gem rooms and what not instead of god rooms

nvm it doesnt increase the chances for gem rooms or anything good like that

[hushed widget]

so the keepsake in the very last slot, who is it from?

[crude bolt]

What is the farthest you have gotten?

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beaten with 1skull on

cleared a run*

[harsh scroll]

Like how Theseus mocks you for hiding behind pillars when all he does is walk away and throw his spear

[cinder trellis]

What use are the Erebus gates? Like I guess it gives you another potential choice, but is that all?

[latent moon]

The reward is upgraded, whether it be guaranteed rare boons or double heart/pom value

The only thing is that you just cannot get hit while in it

[cinder trellis]

Ah okay, guess I missed seeing that

[latent moon]

And have to have the required heat level

[latent moon]

I don't think it's explicitly stated, you kinda just figure out by doing them

If it is stated then oops lmao I can't remember

[hushed widget]

what heat level is it?

[rustic vale]

5/10/15 depending on the area

Although elysium erebus gates are like

Just don’t take them ever

that’s a deathwish

[tepid light]

in other words: at 5 heat you get access to erebus gates in tartarus, at 10 heat you get them in asphodel, and at 15 you get them in elysium

[hushed widget]

damn 😦 im not gunna be there for a while

[rustic vale]

Tartarus is fine, asphodel is like ~fine

elysium is nope

[tepid light]

yeah elysium erebus gates are just not something you do

[hushed widget]

i already die to basics on the occasion in elysium so it wont be happening

had to relaunch the game i forgot to turn on my headset so i didnt get to hear the slash

smh

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does skelly have a secret stash item? like a friendship item past gifting to him once

[tepid light]

He gives you a keepsake, and a cthonic companion

[hushed widget]

all i have to do is keep gifting to him right?

[tepid light]

yep

[hushed widget]

seems simple enough

i have alot of nectar and alot of nectar but better so i should be chillen

[jovial dove]

nectar and ambrosia?

lol

[hushed widget]

yeah, i didnt know what it was called nor was i going to spell it right, so i js said what it basssicccallly is

[jovial dove]

lol

ur fine mate

dont worry

[tepid light]

well hey, you know it now lmao

[harsh scroll]

I gotta say, using Guan Yu aspect and not finding Aphrodite is sad

[fervent radish]

Athena works pretty well on the spin attack

[harsh scroll]

If Daedalus blesses you with the longer spin yeah

Also, is Bouldy secretly an Olympian? Noticed I got 30% on Family Favorite but I only had 5 Olympians

[fervent radish]

Quick and massive spin also are very good

The build beat 64 heat

[fervent radish]

Did you count Hermes

[harsh scroll]

Yeah

Ik Hermes also counts to it

[fervent radish]

Interesting then

Do you have a screenshot of your build?

[harsh scroll]

No. But I remember having Dionysus, Aphrodite, Poseidon, Hermes, and... I think the last one was Ares?

It was either Ares or Demeter

[pliant pecan]

You can go to the records room to see your builds from past runs

[tepid light]

Aphrodite is best but you can function with other gods

[harsh scroll]

I always forget the administrative room is a thing ngl

[uncut seal]

yall fw Dionysus-Bow build?

[mint coral]

Nah

Dio-beo instead

[tepid light]

with chiron or rama, i can get behind dionysus special build

[signal narwhal]

One weapon type gives up to 40 blood from clears, but needs like 55 to max all?
Remaining blood should come from styx Charon?

[fervent radish]

and the trader

[mint coral]

Or fishing/prophecies

[fresh light]

Blah just fell to hades on heat 16

ganna try a different weapon, was using arthur sword but felt like the damage was too reliant on me hitting the full combo of attacks

trying blitz shield

how many nectar is bouldy gonna take to free siphyous?