h1-discussion

[noble quarry]

it lets you tank more hits

[runic jungle]

That has to be it.
Bc I haven't lost a run where I had 200+ hp lol.
Even 175 I be good

[noble quarry]

also remember to dash through the green shockwave and get behind pillars in second phase

[mint coral]

Who needs to dodge when I have 500 hp in practice (200 + 3dds)

[noble quarry]

or do what i do in second phase use athena great call and mash the attack button on him ignroing everything

[runic jungle]

I didn't even think it was possible to have that high hp lmao
I haven't gotten above 255 yet

[mint coral]

There's a clear title for 400 hp iirc

But I didn't mean to have in number 500 hp

Just 200 hp then each revive getting you 100 more

[vague viper]

I got like 570-something at some point

[stiff obsidian]

yeah its not hard

[runic jungle]

Okay new challenge unlocked for me then 😂
Though lately my rng for hearts have been kinda bad but hopefully I can get lucky.

[vague viper]

yea here https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/725021639506526249/1293014507240816732/IMG_9831.jpg?ex=670e66d9&is=670d1559&hm=211297df06f6c0f5fd34cc02285877ef4075b145041ce6c0aebb92cf14fc6a98&

[mint coral]

Is less luck for hearts and more pray at chaos lol

[vague viper]

I did get double chaos hp boon

[mint coral]

Huh I thought the hp from arthur was also tied to lvl

[noble quarry]

get chiron put our boy diyo on special get aphro on atk then dash athena and call athena finally artemis on cast and pick up some duo's and watch daddy suffer

[vague viper]

just holy ground DR

which I mean. is effectively more hp

[stiff obsidian]

time for my daily em4 50 run

just realized ive been streaking my previous ones

3 so far

[vague viper]

[noble quarry]

think i only need 1 hidden aspect to reach surface with and im done with those prophecies

[stiff obsidian]

literally

[vague viper]

time for your daily dead cells YEEEAAAHHHHH

oh sorry I didn’t know you weren’t chill like that

[noble quarry]

thankfully i already did spear yesterday glad that was the 1 hidden aspect in dumped blood it

i really dont want to imagine a run with that one on level 1

[stiff obsidian]

havent played in days

started dark souls remastered instead

[vague viper]

https://tenor.com/view/spiderman-dancing-gif-24233159

[whole lichen]

https://youtu.be/0rbQOmtNV3M?si=DCBGQfSA4tTbW_Ah

[sage shard]

IM SO GLAD I CHOSE THE EGG

I GOT 3 CHAOS IN A ROW AND A WELL OF CHARON OPTION TO GUARENTEE them SOON

best use of egg ever

[mint coral]

Btw chaos uses they/them but nice

[stiff obsidian]

the whole idea of chaos is that its open to interpretation

[mint coral]

I mean sure but chaos is only addressed through they/them in the game

[sage shard]

sory

i dont wana get baned im sory

[void vigil]

you wont get banned for it, you were just corrected

[sage shard]

thank 🙂

shuld i get hades 2?

i only have 10 hours on this game but im really like it

does drunken stack if you hit a lot of time quick?

[sterile cargo]

Yes, it can stack 5 time (but it can be more with special Boon)

[rustic vale]

They have a different feel to them afaik

[fervent radish]

If you really like 1, you can sink multiple hundreds if not thousands of hours without getting bored

I would only get 2 if the gameplay loop looks enticing

[twilit lodge]

Waow hades 2 mentioned

StickyBot better protect us

[sage shard]

i have a question

@fervent radish this guy im in the green lush place and his name is ??? and hes offering me well of charon items but they have fancy names at the end like gold or premium or select

what does that mean?

[wild solar]

oh you met him nice

it's just upgraded well of charon items

[sage shard]

like for example with kiss of styx it normally replenishs 1 use of death defiance... so would it replenish 2?

[stiff obsidian]

just read it bruh

[wild solar]

all death defiances

[stiff obsidian]

it explains

[sage shard]

how would it "replenish" 2 if ive never had 2 in the first place... does it go over my limit

[sage shard]

HOW

how do i open the descriptions

[stiff obsidian]

hover over it

[sage shard]

ohhh

[stiff obsidian]

[wild solar]

[sage shard]

okay so if i have 1 death defiance unlocked rn that means its the same as a regular kiss of styx

[stiff obsidian]

yes

[sage shard]

well its an awesome item so im taking it anyway

[wild solar]

[stiff obsidian]

only if youve used your defiance ofc

[sage shard]

i did yeah

[wild solar]

oh okay

[sage shard]

i used it the encounter before i found him lol

its like he knew

does ferocious guard stack

like if i block like 5 projectiles in like a quick time does that mean i get +100% damage and move speed

[stiff obsidian]

no

[sage shard]

jesus 500% damage

hell ya im taking that

i spam bull rush anyway

[stiff obsidian]

what did bro get

[sage shard]

minoatuar rush

your bull rush gets +500% damage

[stiff obsidian]

vs armour

[sage shard]

no

regular

[sage shard]

ik the one ur thinking of, it was really good too

this isnt that tho

[stiff obsidian]

only on a power rush then ig

[sage shard]

ya

whats the difference

how do i know if my bull rush was a power rush

does it jsut mean if its charged up fully?

[stiff obsidian]

what

[fervent radish]

real

[stiff obsidian]

its like bow power shot

mistyped shot

😩

[fervent radish]

it will flash at a certain point

lmao

[sage shard]

ik but theres no visual difference when i actually rush even if i dont time it

[fervent radish]

i've honestly used minotaur rush like 2 times ever

no clue how it works

[stiff obsidian]

idk the shield hammers i start cshot and never take 2nd

[whole lichen]

Ferocious guard is decent

[fervent radish]

start ER and never take second

[whole lichen]

Power rush is hard to time I think

[fervent radish]

it's...fine

you'd just rather have cshot or ER first and for 99.99% of those cases, second hammer is either detrimental or neutral

[sage shard]

is heroic swift strike good

[fervent radish]

probably not

[sage shard]

+40% attack speed

[fervent radish]

it's more complicated than a flat 40% boost to attack speed

[sage shard]

and i have the ares and dionysus attack buff so when i hit i do a ton of damage

[sage shard]

jk its epic

[fervent radish]

yeah

uh, you'd rather just have hypersprint+rush delivery or +dashes from hermes

[sage shard]

wdym

[sage shard]

how do i get zeus shield

[fervent radish]

Unlock all weapons and then interact with one I think

I forgot

[sage shard]

how come all of a suden im geetting demeter in my first boon

i didnt even know demeter was in this game

[latent moon]

Bc you reached the surface

It's like

She didn't realize you existed until you reached the surface

[sage shard]

OH

interesting

[whole lichen]

Greater evasion is also good right?

[mint coral]

Is ok

Almost everything that isn't hyper delivery combo/greatest reflex falls into that lol

But yeah if is not either of the top options evasion/second wind/quick recovery are nice

Auto reload kinda nice as you get a chance at the legendary

[wanton sierra]

Anyone have a go-to weapon for Thanatos' keepsake (No damage clears to get increased damage)

[rich onyx]

hermes best boon is prob greater reflex

everything else is just ok

[mint coral]

Hestia rail

[mint coral]

Depending on weapon hyper delivery is better but yeah

[rich onyx]

which ones that

do u mean hyper sprint

i might be forgetting whatever hyper delivery is

[mint coral]

Hyper sprint + rush delivery

+100% speed after dashing + extra speed is converted into dmg

[rich onyx]

ahhh

i never venture outside of greatest reflex, good to know theres other solid boons

[mint coral]

Is what routed runs use to become super busted

Because movement speed is multiplicative

So if you add a few dozen ichors your dmg gets stupid really fast

[latent moon]

hyper delivery my beloved

[mint coral]

I love tapping the joy stick and getting sent to the other side of the room

[latent moon]

real

[rich onyx]

should i give pollen to bouldy

[mint coral]

Yes

Bouldy carries

[rich onyx]

ok good ive gifted him for the past 5 runs ive done

[latent moon]

10% movement speed -> 20% movement speed

always gamble

[mint coral]

Slightly more serious answer
But if you don't have any other uses for nectar then yeah just throw it to bouldy

That 2% dmg reduction will carry you

[rich onyx]

yeah ive stacked up like 20

wait bouldy gives dmg reduction?

[mint coral]

It gives a small random buff

Attack/special/cast dmg/mvnt speed/dmg reduction/coins gained 1%-10% (or 2% minimum I don't remember)

And the 2% ambiguity

[latent moon]

2% should be min i think

[buoyant matrix]

10% more movement speed

[sage shard]

with bow should i go rare tidal, hydraulic might, or poseidons aid

[sage shard]

ima go poseidons aid

@fervent radish i currently have epic curse of agony, frost flourish, epic hunter dash, and poseidons aid.

should i go for concentrated volley, perfect shot, or flurry shot

[stiff obsidian]

doom bow

[sage shard]

?

[stiff obsidian]

nvm

[sage shard]

so what do i choose

should i go for concentrated volley, perfect shot, or flurry shot if i currently have epic curse of agony, frost flourish, epic hunter dash, and poseidons aid.

[umbral dew]

i'm a fan of flurry shot but that's because my timing sucks

probably less useful with curse of agony though

[sage shard]

i went with the concnenrated volley

[wanton sierra]

Is there any trick to having Achilles be willing to "Risk it all" (unlock his favor and complete his prophecy)
I have freed Sisyphus and Orpheus already, and Patrocolus has asked for Achilles to risk it - but he wasn't willing and he isn't giving me ! prompts anymore.

[tender elk]

concentrated volley + ||aspect of chiron|| is devastating

[sage shard]

whats that

i started yesterday so

[tender elk]

you'll get it later on

you need to unlock all the weapons first

[sage shard]

greatest reflex, quick recovery, or flurry cast?

[tender elk]

reflex is incredible but I don't know how well it synergizes with bow

[sage shard]

ill go with recovery

it saved me a lot before

[tender elk]

reflex + tidal dash is one of my go-to combos

[stiff obsidian]

rip streak

but

@mint coral you are right

[mint coral]

Did you get discord'd

[stiff obsidian]

for 3rd phase i turned off the lights and maxed ingame brightness and screen brightness

helps

got flashbanged after dying tho

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/502817768513470474/1295464971928469546/6pYB9vr.png?ex=670ebf45&is=670d6dc5&hm=6f6e46be2d7bd549d386b201ff0ba9e8c435f9fe54d123c178f4ff894738dc1d&

[mint coral]

Oh LMFAO

Yeah brightness is the best counter to em4

[strong owl]

Finally got master of arms achievement, wasn’t playing bow at all

Just need to beat Charon one more time as well

[stiff obsidian]

wow beowulf is too hard

[rustic vale]

Less than the melee weapons but it’s still a top tier defensive boon

[rustic vale]

It’s a great hammer for bow regardless of what you have on strike, but you really shouldn’t have curse of agony of bow strike ever tbh

[tender elk]

I play sword, shield, and gauntlets so I am very used to dashing into combat constantly

[rustic vale]

I play bow so I’m very used to dashing into combat constantly.

[tender elk]

Oh yeah high level bow looks really weird I forgot

[stiff obsidian]

failed 2 runs in a row time to quite hads

[rustic vale]

Wierd?

?!?

Giga dashstriking with bow

[tender elk]

Yeah bow looks very aggressive, not exactly what you would expect from a bow

[jagged hamlet]

Is like Legolas in Helm's Deep!

[rustic vale]

It’s the only way to go since your precision is maxed out anyways

[wild solar]

help i just got this dialogue after Lernie

"How could you, boy? That Hydra had a family!" that so funny

[foggy portal]

OMG I remember when I got that 😭😭 I had to pause the game in amazement

[wild solar]

it was genuinely so funny, i love this damn game

[cursive prairie]

I don't like explosive shot hammer

It sucks in Elysium, literally unusable against those suicidal flame wheels

And you end up taking more damage bc you spend so much damn time charging it up

[whole lichen]

I think you need to max out hearts with both them and Nyx but I am not sure

[fervent radish]

You don’t have to charge it up all the way

And you can dash through terrain to avoid them

[cursive prairie]

I mean yeah charging it up fully is lkinda impossible lol, but not charging it to a reasonable extent means you lose out on some damage which defeats the entire purpose

[jagged hamlet]

Well, Explosive means you don't need to charge it to a reasonable extent

It's high damage even with very minimal charge

[rustic vale]

It’s usually enough additive to make it worth it

But at the same time I just can’t vibe with explosive shot

[fervent radish]

You don’t lose that much damage

Min charge explosive is very strong

Esp with triple or twin

[little flume]

is it just me or is aphro kinda busted, i mean the highest damage att and spe boons, with one of the best status effects just for free on almost all her boons, and some stupid good combos with litiraly everyone.

[latent moon]

yeah that's generally agreed on for the meta

[little flume]

aah

so it isnt just me

[latent moon]

although iirc most of her duos are pretty lackluster

except like smoldering air

heart rend too i suppose

[wild solar]

i like uhhhh

Curse of Longing

[mint coral]

Low tol also neat enough

[wild solar]

it's a bit hard to upkeep tbh but i personally like that kind of playstyle ykwim

[mint coral]

CoL is kinda sad

[latent moon]

curse of longing is the exact opposite of merciful end, and ME is one of the best duos in the game lmao

[wild solar]

yeah but i think it's fun (cue no fun allowed)

[whole lichen]

Curse of longing is underwhelming imo

Or slow

[mint coral]

My main gripe with it is the reduced dmg between procs lol

[noble quarry]

Down to 4 minor prophecy's niw

[mint coral]

It really didn't need it

[wild solar]

merciful end is athena/ares right

[mint coral]

Yeah

[wild solar]

deflect immediate doom?

[whole lichen]

It’d be great if it didn’t decrease

[mint coral]

Yup

[wild solar]

yeah it's rly good too

[whole lichen]

Merciful end + divine dash is a run winner imo

Add blinding flash(?) maybe

[mint coral]

Nah

You want impending doom

[whole lichen]

Oh yeah that definitely

[mint coral]

And swap from priv status if you are recommending blinding flash maybe

[whole lichen]

I was thinking of nice to haves

[latent moon]

maybe their main concern was that it was an "infinite damage" thing where you can just block in a corner and doom would infinitely drop for full damage until the weak runs out lmao

or you tag once with special and keep smacking or wahtever

[whole lichen]

It could be time or n times gated

[mint coral]

How long does weak last again

4s?

[latent moon]

sounds about right

[wild solar]

what weapon is merciful end good on? sorry if i ask a lot of questions - like i said before i'm new to properly building things

[mint coral]

Yes

[latent moon]

every melee weapon except shield basically

[wild solar]

[latent moon]

sword, fist, spear, zag rail if you take spread fire lmao

[old bluff]

It’s good on shield

[whole lichen]

Easier to tag and trigger with faster attacks

[latent moon]

shield kinda works but it's pretty awkward

[whole lichen]

Also enables dire misfortune

[wild solar]

i've always liked ares special chaos shield but i was informed it's not good

[whole lichen]

I like ME on zag fists

[mint coral]

Non zeus shield special moment

[mint coral]

Dire misfortune is whatever for ME

[whole lichen]

It’s good with fists

[wild solar]

is zeus shield rly that good?

[mint coral]

Yeah

Special doing its own thing and still letting you to block/rush is super good

[mint coral]

I mean specifically with ME cuz is pretty much just a pom

You are gonna get like 1 or 2 dire procs before ME does its thing

[fervent radish]

🗿

[wild solar]

cries i didn't get charged shot on beowulf

[fervent radish]

bestspect for heat

[whole lichen]

True

[wild solar]

daedalus hates me

[mint coral]

Charged shot odds suck

[latent moon]

3/14 right

[old bluff]

3/13

[fervent radish]

3/13

[latent moon]

damn

[wild solar]

well we've got Breaching Rush, Charged Flight, and Unyielding Defense, none of which sounds particularly helpful fr this build

[latent moon]

breaching isn't the worst thing in the world

[whole lichen]

It’s good at Elysium yeah

[latent moon]

unyielding is kinda whatever imo but it's also certainly not bad

[whole lichen]

That’s sturdy one right?

[mint coral]

Iirc zeus has the best odds? And is the one who wants it the least lol

[latent moon]

yeah

[latent moon]

nonsense, all shields what charged shot!

[old bluff]

Cshot best hammer

[wild solar]

aaaand dead

screw you heightened security

sigh

bah im done for the day

[fervent radish]

Chaos is really hard to play well while leaning into the special

[sand mulch]

Game time pauses too after killing Theseus so even when speed running

One must greet

[wild solar]

i think it's funny to play

that's rly it

[fervent radish]

Yeah that’s fair

It’s not fun for me to not have a shield for half of the time I’m playing a shield

[tender elk]

Aspect of Zeus stays winning

[sage shard]

whats the whole point of like it showing who gets more kills you or thanatos

[mint coral]

You get a heart if you beat him

[sage shard]

i didnt beat him but i got a heart

i got 9 he got 10

[latent moon]

that might've just been the normal room reward lmao

[sage shard]

oh yeah it was

ur right

wait so is lucky tooth basically just a mini death defiance?

[sage shard]

which one gets used up first

[wild solar]

normal DDs get used before lucky tooth

[sage shard]

would yall say stubborn defiance is like pretty much better all the time than dd

[mint coral]

No

It has its moments tho

[sage shard]

how is it not better?

i get it heals less and it only has the ability to do it once per encounter so on long boss fights its not as useful

[mint coral]

Most people only struggle at bosses is the thing

[sage shard]

not for me

[mint coral]

Well, the idea is that you practice so rooms aren't an issue

3 defiances (and whatever method you have for refills) just give you so much leeway to mess around

[sage shard]

i tried bow and sucked the hell out of it, shield is the only thing im decent with because i just constantly hold down left click and just spam bull rush while staying blocked so i dont take damage

its decent in rooms but in boss fights the damage is poopy

sure i take less damage but it takes so much longer so i end up taking all the damage overtime anyway

[mint coral]

Later on stubborn defiance becomes better for this exact same thing lol (as an optional challenge)

Rooms become a lot harder and no healing so stubborn becomes your healing

And it just demands some cleaner boss fights

[twilit lodge]

Spam dash strikes and save the block+Bull rush combo for when you actually need to block

[rustic vale]

It doesn’t take that much longer if you’re dash striking like

a good bow player isn’t in any more danger than a melee weapon user

[twilit lodge]

Many attacks can be dodged by reposition yourself , which is quicker than blocking

[rustic vale]

For example

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/795659377755422742/1192630956448817193/2024010419473301-C7D8C4153CC9802713604F54C53304E0.mp4?ex=670f0da2&is=670dbc22&hm=6cbe2407c5096dc5f6654f5e55ca8691b0f982d96f7e497f0792d2c2578eb952&

Just be faster

[old bluff]

The gif makes its return

[rustic vale]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/795659377755422742/1289676193557123155/image0.gif?ex=66f9b00d&is=66f85e8d&hm=09544a49720f19fcb893ae91468451e6edbc1ce4390d068b47dde024a3da9ca8&

[mint coral]

That's a wild difference in quality lmfao

[twilit lodge]

The gif of all time

[rustic vale]

I was asked to “deep fry” it so

[fervent radish]

Not deep fried enough

[merry vine]

I was so close ;-;

im crying

I was so close to beating 32 Heat like hades was second phase

IM SO CLOSE ;-;

well at least i dont feel like a fraud anymore wooooooo

I beat 32F on Hades 2 before beating 32H but i can do it

[twilit lodge]

Check #h1-high-heat-strategies pins

Pact makes a big difference and so do some play style adjustments

Bananas has a good guide

[merry vine]

Yup was using his guide and it helped me a ton, especially since I enjoy using Arthur and it typically got me faster times. I know people recommended me certain weapons and I’m thankful but Arthur is just my baby I can’t I love it.

[low dove]

Is there anyway for me to customize my run ?

[vague viper]

you got god boons and dice if you really need it

[latent moon]

can confirm

[vague viper]

it’s mr good guide himself

still baffles me that lc4 is a standard for high heat

[twilit lodge]

The alternatives are not pretty

All things considered, switching to stubborn and using LC4 is a fairly cheap 4 heat

[fervent radish]

Why

[latent moon]

tbf it's a pretty wild switch from having recovery and 3 revives to 0 recovery and 1 revive per room

esp when most people attempting 32 heat typically reserve DDs for bosses

and the assumption generally speaking is like

they wont expect normal rooms to be killing them as much as bosses

[whole lichen]

I jumped from 23 heat to 32, to see how it is. Learned that BP2 + FO2 can hit hard in “normal” rooms

[eager grove]

hello there.

[twilit lodge]

General Kenobi

[jagged hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-there-general-kenobi-star-wars-grevious-gif-17774326

[twilit lodge]

TOO SLOW

[jagged hamlet]

NOOOO

[marsh wigeon]

Ffs beat hades for the first time just for him to spawn a second health bar. Rip.

[tepid light]

learningexperience.gif

[unreal mason]

https://tenor.com/view/soul-of-cinder-dark-souls-gif-8624481

[gentle venture]

I thought of something interesting
Since we already have a call affiliated with the character
What if we eventually got boons from Hades that were similar to his boss moveset, like his lasers or his shockwave

[fervent radish]

Too much crowd control to be balanced tbh

[twilit lodge]

Hades spear spin becomes the 360 laser beam attack

I support this fully

[gentle venture]

I’m down for that

I think having the lingering bloodstones that end with a shockwave would be cool too

I could imagine his legendary being an extra death defy that restores your health all the way instead of partially

Or just making it so EVERY death defy is a full restore instead

maybe nerf it for stubborn defiance though

[fervent radish]

Stubborn is already stronger than DDs

[stiff obsidian]

whyy

its just 10 seconds of waiting

[fervent radish]

You can usually get Patty, some extra restore from wells, and bank 2 Athena DDs

Though 1 should already give more value

[twilit lodge]

I meant our hades spear spin

[stiff obsidian]

i think i understood it wrong

yeah

did achilles teach hades the spear throw

[fervent radish]

Only em4

[gentle venture]

I’ve always thought it would be cool if the hades spear, in combination with the sigil of the dead, would give us a more one-to-one version of Hades’s moveset

Obviously, given all the modifications, it would be hard to just do that, so boons made more sense in my head

[twilit lodge]

I’ve always thought it would be cool if hades spear sucked a lot less

[gentle venture]

woah

maybe this is just me with my weird aspect preferences

but what isnt there to like?

[twilit lodge]

Average hades player is like a shark

They have to keep moving or they die

[gentle venture]

that mega spin is GREAT, especially if you use the faster charge or bigger radius hammer

[twilit lodge]

Spinning means you stop moving

[fervent radish]

Wait nah hades spear actually goes hard

Have you tried serrated point and Artemis attack

E launcher is boring

[gentle venture]

which is serrated point again, i’ve been away for a hot minute

[fervent radish]

3x dash strike and less dash distance

[gentle venture]

hm

[twilit lodge]

Serrated point is bargain bin flurry jab

It works but you might die

[gentle venture]

i don’t believe i have

[fervent radish]

Just get better

Bad player blames the hammer

[twilit lodge]

I actually like serrated

[gentle venture]

i love hades spear

[fervent radish]

“Serrated is so good” incoming

[twilit lodge]

I just recognize it’s way more dangerous to use than flurry jab

[lavish sorrel]

yes I love that, but I keep dying with it whenever I don't get dashes

[gentle venture]

i use it for big dumb (hangover or doom on spin attack)

[fervent radish]

I honestly disagree

I die really often on flurry because I can’t control my movement well

[lavish sorrel]

serrated is so good

[twilit lodge]

Bad player blames the hammer?

[gentle venture]

I usually don’t take stuff that messes with my movement to such a massive degree, gilgamesh being the main exception

[fervent radish]

Yeah

[fervent radish]

Nah it’s just me being bad

Haven’t played enough Achilles

[twilit lodge]

Achilles nyoom makes everything better

[fervent radish]

Agreed

[gentle venture]

Anything other than guan yu

[twilit lodge]

Guan Yu my beloathed

[old bluff]

I love Guan Yu

Best ME weapon 😌

[lavish sorrel]

I love Guan Yu

[twilit lodge]

Banned for life

[old bluff]

It’s fun to play

[twilit lodge]

Please censor when you use dirty words such as f*n

[lavish sorrel]

multiple builds, one of which plays completely differently from the rest

[twilit lodge]

We don’t allow that here 😔

[old bluff]

Cskewer is a great hammer

[lavish sorrel]

that feels like a you-problem

[gentle venture]

right because sacrificing my hard earned mirror health is a “fun” way to play

[twilit lodge]

Cskewer is the most elusive hammer in the game for me

[old bluff]

It’s a good thing Quick spin and Massive spin are good as well

[lavish sorrel]

yeah, and you get quick spin / massive spin instead

build number 2

[fervent radish]

I like healing with lc4 idk

[gentle venture]

it’s the opposite way of arthur, it gives you more health but the moveset sucks

[fervent radish]

I also think livesteal builds are always fun

Arthur moves sucks

[twilit lodge]

Arthur moveset is goated, just slow

[gentle venture]

guan yu? Moveset cool, health sucks.

[old bluff]

Arthur better than Gilga at least

[gentle venture]

Fair

[fervent radish]

True

[gentle venture]

N a h

[old bluff]

Y A H

[gentle venture]

Arthur is like borderline unusable, Gilgamesh gets a bad rap for its weird dashes

other than that is BANGIN

[old bluff]

Gilga gets a bad rap for having 25 damage dashstrikes lmao

[gentle venture]

fair, but easily able to be changed with boons, like everything else

[old bluff]

Like everything else

[lavish sorrel]

look the undeniable truth here is that gilgamesh is undoubtedly one of if not the worst aspect in the game. it can be fun but it's really weak until the moment where you get RD / , at which point any other fist would do better

[old bluff]

It can still be fun tho

[gentle venture]

i feel like complaining about base damage for any single move is kinda invalidated by upgrades being thrown at you like candy

[old bluff]

It’s just objectively kinda weak

[gentle venture]

In this case, boons

[lavish sorrel]

ok go beat 50 heat with it

go

I dare you

[twilit lodge]

But those same upgrades can be applied to moves that suck less

[old bluff]

I feel that is a weird reasoning because it defeats itself

[gentle venture]

i’d have to beat ANY heat higher than like 4 first

[old bluff]

Any base damage can get buffed, so why not buff a higher base damage

[wary iron]

Gilga is fun and something different and by far my favourite aspect, but it's objectively bad

[twilit lodge]

Hypnos owns a frog?

[gentle venture]

I don’t play SUPER often, and i focus more on messing around and embracing jank than being optimal

[wary iron]

there's a reason why it was the last aspect to hit a sub 6

[wary iron]

he tries to

[gentle venture]

So i think my highest heat clear is like 5 or 6, maybe? Ironically probably with gilgamesh

[lavish sorrel]

wait wasn't that mystic's chiron or am I trippin'

if not last it was second-last

[gentle venture]

lemme check

[jagged hamlet]

Ah, the elusive catfrog

[twilit lodge]

[old bluff]

No, Chiron was second to last

[wary iron]

i think chiron was second to last

[wary iron]

Packrat! i missed talking to you ngl

[gentle venture]

I was correct, my highest heat is 6 with gilgamesh

[wary iron]

if you like the fists, zag aspect is best for higher heat, other than that i'd recommend shield

[gentle venture]

seems like it was an artemis athena focused run

[wary iron]

hey uh pls don't do that with fists !

[lavish sorrel]

or splash->rd tbh

[fervent radish]

You can beat 16 heat within a few tries on a good aspect

[lavish sorrel]

yeah

[fervent radish]

I guarantee you

32 in a few more

[gentle venture]

I’ve been working my way up

[wary iron]

tbh once you get used to fo2 (was fd2 the one with faster spawn rate? it's been too long since i played) 32 becomes fairly easy

[fervent radish]

Fo2

[wary iron]

ty

[gentle venture]

well i mean considering the reputation of some of the aspects i like to play 😬

chaos aspect, hades aspect, occasionally chiron, gilga

[fervent radish]

Yeah I know, I’m just pointing out that there’s a pretty substantial gap between aspect quality and one way that manifests is that you’d breeze through higher heats with a better aspect

[wary iron]

until you get boon reduction all fists are perfectly good for heat (you just need enough luck for ME)

[fervent radish]

Real

[lavish sorrel]

I will say, play whatever you find fun, right, we're not here to criticize that. What we're saying is that you're wong when you claim gilgamesh is good

[fervent radish]

Chaos hades and Chiron are actually fairly good at heat

[wary iron]

you saw nothing

[fervent radish]

62, 60, and 60

Meanwhile gilga at 55 🤮

(I’m gonna maybe fix that idk)

[gentle venture]

Weird, any time i bring some of them up here people are always like “woah, get that outta here”

[fervent radish]

That’s mostly in a speed context

Chaos sucks, as an aspect modification, but it’s good by virtue of being a shield

So it can get charged shot

[stiff obsidian]

hades spear suckss wdym

[fervent radish]

Chiron is absolute garbage but Timothy got 60 on it

[wary iron]

most people that play hades 1 and are active in this server are speedrunners or high heat runners so yeah sounds about right

[gentle venture]

maybe for you

I love those big meaty claws

[fervent radish]

Hades is less absolute garbage and vaxon got 60 on it

[fervent radish]

What

[stiff obsidian]

i was talking to @fervent radish in heat context

[fervent radish]

It’s at 60

And arty serrated makes it feel pretty good

[stiff obsidian]

it required one of the best gamers to game out of their mind

[gentle venture]

my brain died and looped back to gilga even though we stopped talking abiut it cuz im sleep deprived

[fervent radish]

🤷‍♂️

Isn’t that just all non Zeus aspects

[lavish sorrel]

angel has a 56 somewhere that she lost I think. but yeah 55 is official reccy

[wary iron]

rama is fairly good i think

[fervent radish]

You keep saying this but false has 50 on all aspects

He’s not disliking it because he’s bad at the aspect

[stiff obsidian]

or am i ?

[fervent radish]

Still requires serious gaming

[gentle venture]

generally i think thats where a lot of the aspect’s hate comes from

[stiff obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/vsause-michael-michael-vsause-vsause-michael-gif-25125732

[gentle venture]

cuz people cant stand what changes it makes to the moveset

[lavish sorrel]

man you have all aspects at 50, you don't deserve self-deprecation

[wary iron]

i mean so does zeus, everything requires serious gaming after 45 imo (maybe i'm just bad)

[stiff obsidian]

[fervent radish]

Nah Zeus is fairly straightforward

[wary iron]

we got high heat version of jazz before gta 6 (forgive the overused joke)

[lavish sorrel]

zeus 50 and most of the other aspects 50 are two very different ballparks

[gentle venture]

but yeah, considering i’m not a records or speed or heat based player, it hardly matters what janky bs i use

[fervent radish]

I mean consider my background, but I think that anyone who enjoys heat can do 60/62 on Zeus with a few hundred hours

[stiff obsidian]

gta6 silksong

[wary iron]

zeus just never clicked for me

[fervent radish]

Other aspects would take twice as long

[stiff obsidian]

zeus 50 was my hardest shield 50, zeus sucks 💯

[fervent radish]

🗿

[lavish sorrel]

ok there controller player, chill out

[wary iron]

i think it'd probably take me the longest on zeus

[gentle venture]

Im here for greek mythos, attractive characters, fun gameplay, and a mindless killing spree

[stiff obsidian]

whats a special ? 🗣️

[stiff obsidian]

same

[wary iron]

may i introduce you to: ME gilga?

[gentle venture]

i just throw doom on zeus for discount blade rifts

[stiff obsidian]

it good

[fervent radish]

Why does everyone not like playing Zeus the right way /hj

[gentle venture]

remind me whats the preferred setup for that, is it divine dash on gilga?

[stiff obsidian]

what is hj

[lavish sorrel]

divine dash, divine flourish, curse of agony

[fervent radish]

Half joking

[latent moon]

i'll do a cshot zeus shield run later tn

[lavish sorrel]

-> and impending doom

[stiff obsidian]

what is this new slang

[fervent radish]

No but actually play Zeus correctly

[stiff obsidian]

[gentle venture]

i mean i play chaos aspect cuz i put a status curse on the throw so i can inflict stuff on whole rooms

normally hangover

And i mean this literally and sarcastically, it speaks to me in a way

[lavish sorrel]

we have zagreus shield at home

[wary iron]

what was the hardest thing y'all ever did in this game?

[stiff obsidian]

allspects 50

[mint coral]

55h em4 zag shield

[wary iron]

i tip my hat i don't come close to you guys lmao

[stiff obsidian]

[latent moon]

rama 50

[stiff obsidian]

not sub6?

[fervent radish]

62 or first 50

[latent moon]

that wasn't like hard that was more just putting runs in tbh

[stiff obsidian]

thats literally everything ive done then

[wary iron]

y'all should try the 32 heat on touchcontrols without i frames 😔

[stiff obsidian]

i just bang my head agaisnt the wall until i beat it

[latent moon]

it also wasn't something i like explicitly grinded for i dont think, it was more just 1-2 a day bc the game was fun and i liked going fast lmao

[lavish sorrel]

maybe zagreus spear 50 heat (unmodded)? about on par with low%

[fervent radish]

I would rather grind nothing but 64

[latent moon]

rama 50 i actually wanted to do but took me a while

[gentle venture]

Not like an accomplishment thing but more of a progress thing, finally figuring out a good rhythm for myself to play with the bow

[stiff obsidian]

i rmemeber that took way too long

[gentle venture]

but thats also cuz im just bad

[latent moon]

all the other aspects i hit 50+ with they were like ~5 attempts, rama 50 took me a lot more lmao

[fervent radish]

If you got a solid build and pushed higher i think you’d do fine

[lavish sorrel]

yeah I'm actually way too bad at spear heat lmfao

[wary iron]

god i hope the game goes on sale the next sale

[gentle venture]

and considering i’m not sure if i’ve beaten it yet, EM3, and im sure that answer will change to em4

[latent moon]

next one is probably thanksgiving and it normally does

[stiff obsidian]

nah lets blame it on rng

[lavish sorrel]

no I know it's a skill issue

undeniable

[wary iron]

rng made me wait 3 months for the gilga activation words

[gentle venture]

oof

[wary iron]

i just blame it for everything now

[stiff obsidian]

unmodded is tough i could never

[wary iron]

died in lava? rng

[gentle venture]

Rng made me wait hundreds of runs for flame wheel release for my pact

i dont get it

[latent moon]

flamewheel release moment

[gentle venture]

i’ve seen it ONCE or twice in my entire time playing this game for two or so years

[fervent radish]

I’ve seen it a few times

[latent moon]

i just saw it yesterday

[lavish sorrel]

the enemies spawned in the wrong location which made you react in the wrong way, aka walk into the trap which could have been avoided but let's imagine a deterministic world where any input action by the game results in the same output on your part every time

[gentle venture]

Witch’s circle no athena? Rng

[wary iron]

he gets it

[lavish sorrel]

ok but there's a way to deal with that

[gentle venture]

yeah but i dont wike it

[wary iron]

just parry

[mint coral]

I need the "stop doing math" meme but is stop doing enemy manips

[gentle venture]

lol

[latent moon]

engulfing vortex and than summon

[gentle venture]

not getting strong drink before styx? rng (also cuz i use room-reroll instead)

[wary iron]

me forgetting i have 1 hp while dashing up the lava to spawn manip

[fervent radish]

You can literally just force Athena in asphodel and it’s 90% of the time a good choice

[gentle venture]

being stuck with gods i dont want in tart cuz i dont want to waste said room rerolls? rng

[wary iron]

i used to reset when i didn't get ME in tartarus

[latent moon]

that's insane

[fervent radish]

Fated authority

[mint coral]

Dawg

[gentle venture]

not getting a second status effect until elysium when im trying to use priv-status with hangover? bad rng

[mint coral]

What kinda self torture is that

[wary iron]

i tried to make up my skill issue via good rng

[mint coral]

Sgg do one more update and remove ME from the game

Save these people

[lavish sorrel]

ok but tart ME reset is a bit extreme

[fervent radish]

You can do fine getting it by asphodel endshop lol

[fervent radish]

Pstatus was the skill issue

[wary iron]

yeah but i didn't start with divine dash so it's technically just ares attack at start and hoping to just meet athena somewhere in tart for divine flourish and then either of the two for ME and then forcing athena into asphodel and rolling for dd

[gentle venture]

oh yeah, that i know, but ive been told its good specifically for hangover so i go back and forth

[lavish sorrel]

it's a fine casual-strat but it's actually mid at best for anything other than fun-runs because it involves you shooting yourself in the foot build-wise to get an extra 20% than with family favorite

[fervent radish]

It’s not usually good even for hangover

[wary iron]

so just one very specific room for tart which imo isn't that extreme

[fervent radish]

.

[fervent radish]

That’s a lot ngl

[wary iron]

the most stupid thing about my resting was, that i reset when i didn't get ME in tart but kept going on common doom 😭

[gentle venture]

This is a hilarious reply cuz it’s from last time i was here

[fervent radish]

Yeah

[stiff obsidian]

maybe on eris week i will actually play

[lavish sorrel]

yeah and you were wrong last time as well

[gentle venture]

I mean i’ve reset over finding poseidon, dem, or aphro in tart when i had specific planned vibes for certain runs that they throw out of the window

[wary iron]

resetting when seeing dem is valid imo

[mint coral]

Curse of nourished soul be upon you

[lavish sorrel]

my low% brain is screaming

[mint coral]

But eh I can't hate her enough

Mistral dash carried my rama 50 (not really)

But it def helped

[wary iron]

it's just the most horrible use for a spot in the god pool, unless you only need 2 gods to begin with

[gentle venture]

Yeah, i use them both from time to time

[stiff obsidian]

dem ares so stinky 🤢

[mint coral]

That's why we don't try for 3/4 gods builds

[lavish sorrel]

diobeo-problems

[fervent radish]

Having more than 1 god is fake anyways

[gentle venture]

wait explain
is it cuz of it using festive fog instead of hangover

cuz i can’t stand festive fog

[mint coral]

You want to find at least arty or pos during tart for mirage

[lavish sorrel]

(what you're saying is zeus² supremacy)

[fervent radish]

Aphro 😃

But also Zeus yeah

[fervent radish]

Probably the strongest build in the game if you get everything

[lavish sorrel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVbN4B0DIvw

[gentle venture]

i’ll check it out

[mint coral]

Cgull thumbnails 🙏

[gentle venture]

I don’t know if i’ve won with beo yet so i’ll have to try it out

dio is probably my most used god tho so i’m surprised i wouldnt have stumbled into this by accident

[lavish sorrel]

don't try that build, it's incredibly degen on resets

[mint coral]

Trippy beo is so funny if you get it working

Just get everything ™

[lavish sorrel]

use poseidon cast + artemis attack/special -> mirage shot instead

[wary iron]

honestly mirage beo is wayy easier

[fervent radish]

It’s not that degen imo

You always want mirage

Just more steps with dio start

[fervent radish]

If not concerned about speed, getting a stone in aspho is fine

[lavish sorrel]

bonus casts and opening many other duos be like

you're opening EA with dio cast + pos core

[gentle venture]

I never worry about speed

I mean i have a couple runs to try at this point

Dio beo, ME gilga

Super soaker, which is what, pos/zeus on lucifer

[fervent radish]

Once you get a good Beowulf build going you’ll understand 🙏

[lavish sorrel]

funny meme build

[gentle venture]

Ive had some fun ones with Poseidon on the base attack

[fervent radish]

Literally the worst attack you could have

[gentle venture]

dont think ive ever won with it though, maybe only once?

[gentle venture]

beo in general, not just pos

I always thought it was fun cause it felt like a terrible discount version of his call

[fervent radish]

Beo you should start flood flare and look for arty attack/special and mirage shot

Any other cast scaling from wells, Hermes, etc

[gentle venture]

i also wanna do the grape koolaid cannon lucifer

but I don’t know what else to put on there

maybe ares or artemis on special?

[fervent radish]

Artemis is the best

[wary iron]

artemis best girl

[gentle venture]

So what, dio attack, probably artemis special, i’m thinking athena dash cuz gun

or blade rifts?

I don’t know anymore

This gonna be janky

[fervent radish]

zeus attack, artemis special, tidal dash

no reason to use dio attack usually

[gentle venture]

grape cannon

no other reason needed

[fervent radish]

why do you like hitting like a wet noodle so much

[gentle venture]

im LITERALLY shooting wine

[gentle venture]

cuz that wet noodle is poisoned

lol

in all seriousness? I don’t know

Maybe i’ll do BarbieCannon instead

cuz its 💅 pink

lemme get that AAAA combo
artemis, aphrodite, ares, athena

[gentle venture]

Has anybody gone for the PS4/5 platinum?
Me and my friends are considering doing a trophy race later this year

[twilit lodge]

Nope

[mint coral]

Aren't those the same achievements as steam?

[latent moon]

Yeah they should be

[mint coral]

Racing for epilogue/keepsakes grind lmfao

[gentle venture]

so like multiplayer hades, right?

YOU

grrrr

[dim musk]

yoooo

aint no way

yes

peak

clearing rooms with other ppl sound fun asf

[gentle venture]

yes

[dim musk]

i am just waiting for the bot to strike me down now

honestly it could work too

[gentle venture]

cuz like imagine playing as zag, than, meg

[twilit lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/worldbox-smited-lightning-gif-17816464421779196148

[dim musk]

it would be a lil akward to see so many Zagreus or Melinoë though...

[gentle venture]

Apparently, the new Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles roguelike plays almost exactly like Hades, but just a little worse

[dim musk]

imagine someone with mag as their skin facing mag

[latent moon]

in the redbull hades feature thingy a while ago it mentioned some people were working on a multiplayer mod for hades

[dim musk]

oh damn

peak

[dim musk]

woah

🤔

[latent moon]

idk if that's still being developed and how that's going

[gentle venture]

That would be sick

[dim musk]

wouldnt that make stuff too easy

i mean tbf

you could do high heat

[gentle venture]

I feel like the best way to go about it would be a separate game where you play as multiple characters as opposed to everybody playing as Zag or Mel

[latent moon]

it'd be a lot easier yeah lmao

[dim musk]

yooo yessir

might as well throw in a skin mod

[dim musk]

"oh hey we are finally at hades! andddd... he is dead."

[latent moon]

you could probably easily clear 55+ heat or whatever the heat is with ri2 and ap0/1

[gentle venture]

I think they could do something where difficulty scales per player number

[latent moon]

55 or 57 heat basically

[gentle venture]

That way, then it would be the same difficulty as if you were playing alone

Maybe even go as far as to make the actual environment size larger

[dim musk]

oooooooo

honestly

yes

i see the vision now

[dim musk]

mhmm i think around that heat would be pretty fun

[latent moon]

you still have your SD and at 55 it's ap0, 57 is ap1

so you can still like have fun lmao

"fun" meaning getting a build

[gentle venture]

I think it would be super awesome, especially if they did the scaling, because then they can make it so that way then it would still be challenging even though you’re playing with four people potentially

[latent moon]

or like 50 with full mirror

4 people would kill your frames

[gentle venture]

Imagine if different players could take different paths, and reunite back at the boss room

[latent moon]

esp if you aren't doing heat lmao

[stiff obsidian]

who is banananas talking to

[latent moon]

imagine having 1 person blast through all the rooms and the other people still taking forever lmao

[dim musk]

ohhh i forgot about that

[dim musk]

i wonder how they will figure it out tho

[gentle venture]

Me, we’re talking about potential multiplayer hades

[dim musk]

😭😭😭

[stiff obsidian]

i was wondering about the ap0 heat stuff

[dim musk]

with friends it seems really fun

a clownshow if i may say-

[gentle venture]

exactly

It would be even better if they had like online where you can play with randos

[latent moon]

i mean if you're gonna be doing heat with multiple people it's more fun to get the build you want imo

[dim musk]

😭😭

ppl are gonna throw hands

i feel like moderating that would be a chore

[gentle venture]

Just do voice chat

[dim musk]

maybe even throw in an option for friendly fire LMFAO

[latent moon]

also since doing heat with more people is a lot easier, you can have less good players do high heat at the same time

so getting the build is more important for them

[dim musk]

just to make it more tuff so its not a spam fest

[gentle venture]

If it’s a friend group thing y’all could agree who gets what if you’re trying to do something specific

[latent moon]

"damn sorry i hit you for 6k damage"

[stiff obsidian]

multiplayer hades i hate it

[dim musk]

"ahhh my bad man i accidently hit you with my 8k dmg bow build..."

[stiff obsidian]

something i desperately want but know i will never have

[dim musk]

duo boons? nope duo builds

[gentle venture]

“My bad, i barely knicked you with my crit blade rifts”

[gentle venture]

I imagine they would also have to increase exits to the rooms by that point

[dim musk]

aw man...

i was gonna use that build toda-

[gentle venture]

Like four players, four exits, therefore, four boons

[dim musk]

would everyone get teleported at the same time if one person got the reward

oh damn

[gentle venture]

I’m saying if everybody can split up

[dim musk]

i imagine one guy just keeps getting coins

😭

[gentle venture]

And reunite at the boss room

Occasionally, you would run into each other maybe, but then there would just be two of the same reward

[stiff obsidian]

hades coop ❎ hades pvp ✅

[latent moon]

oops all beo

[dim musk]

ahhhh my bad i accidently brought my meta chiron build

that auto tracks yo-

😭

[latent moon]

chiron wouldn't last a second lmao

[dim musk]

that would be so broken it would get banned full on pokemon showdown style

[stiff obsidian]

meta chiron

oxymoron or smthing idk

[latent moon]

who needs tracking when your attack covers half the screen

[dim musk]

uber tier build

[stiff obsidian]

eris autotracks too

[gentle venture]

theres something funny to me about four people ganging up on a boss with the fists

[dim musk]

the damn rocket build

[latent moon]

no it's just beo

[gentle venture]

Four zags, just beating the hell outta dad

[latent moon]

clockets works too

[stiff obsidian]

beo weak

the other guy will just pick up your bloodstones

boohoo no more casts

💀

[dim musk]

off topic but i fking love twin fists

[dim musk]

💀💀💀

[gentle venture]

so do i

[dim musk]

ima bring my guan yu build

[gentle venture]

theyre my favorite

[dim musk]

(dies in 2 seconds)

[gentle venture]

hence why i love gilga

[latent moon]

stygian time

[dim musk]

it all connects

and i also how eris (i just like the big numbers on the screen)

[gentle venture]

if someone uses arthur they get kicked immediately

[dim musk]

GANG WH-

[dim musk]

😭😭😭

[stiff obsidian]

yes lets give the opp infinite stones

[gentle venture]

Four people using zeus lucifer for ultra pisscannon supreme

[dim musk]

hell yeah

its so peak

4 ppl using the rocket eris build (the god damn pc is gonna explode)

[gentle venture]

Solider tf2?

[dim musk]

alright thats it

can someone bomb this bot down

[latent moon]

they dont drop tho they regen

[stiff obsidian]

but if you catch it

have you tried catching stones

[gentle venture]

Imagine multiplayer lernie having exponentially more heads with more players

[fervent radish]

Bro is not having a good day

[gentle venture]

He has what, 7 normally, so imagine 13 for 2 players, 21 for 3

I would just double it, but I imagine that the original head would stay non-doubled

[stiff obsidian]

tdash lightning strike stonks

call gauge would instantly fill and frames will drop

[gentle venture]

imagine everybody having ME

imagine the lag when one player logs on from mobile

[fervent radish]

This is just league

[latent moon]

I don't think the arena is big enough for that

[gentle venture]

I imagine part of making it multiplayer would be making boss arenas larger to accommodate more complicated battles

[latent moon]

30 lernie heads vs 1 beo lmao

(beo wins)

[fervent radish]

Grouping moment

[gentle venture]

Imagine the arena from elysium being a full geonosis-style horde battle

[sage shard]

how is ite ven possible to have a chance agaisnt thantos

he literally insta kills them

i got 5 kills he got 10

idek how to compete

[fervent radish]

Get a better build

[gentle venture]

Do everything you can to draw them out of his range

[latent moon]

you need a better built lmao

his insta kills are pretty slow

try and target enemies he isn't

[dim musk]

yooo nope not with the bot here

oh shi

[jagged hamlet]

Hades 2 spoilers upon ye!

[dim musk]

i AM hades 2

wait wh

bro-

RAH

[jagged hamlet]

Oh here's your gigantic pile of parchmentwork and oh Asphodel has flooded with magma again

[sage shard]

i have ehh damage but good survivability so

[jagged hamlet]

Damage is survivability!

[sage shard]

thats like saying shaped glass is the best tank build in ror2

how do i gift cerberus my stuff

i want his item

[fervent radish]

Damage is survivability though

[jagged hamlet]

Same method as anybody else in the House

[sage shard]

oh so it has to be in the house?

not at the gates?

[gentle venture]

since i mentioned it earlier

I just tossed a couple of my older gilgamesh victories into the boast chat

[sage shard]

idk if its just a coincedence but is the bag for cerberus always in the coin?

[gentle venture]

Coincidence

It can be any room

As long as it’s not the first one you go into

[sage shard]

dont give me any spoilers but should i spend most of my money right before the hades fight in the snow? or is there something to buy after that

[gentle venture]

Use the money before

[sage shard]

okay

[sage shard]

bruh the game is this short?

i swear i thought there was way more after this

[gentle venture]

nah

[sage shard]

i get theres wayyy more content

[twilit lodge]

There is lots more after this

It’s just the same loop

[sage shard]

but i thought there were more bosses and stuff

[twilit lodge]

Nerp

Me when the game called Hades has a boss called Hades who is actually only the halfway mark

[gentle venture]

remind me, how do i type spoilers

like censor stuff, i mean

[foggy portal]

|| ||

Oh wait

[gentle venture]

pff

[foggy portal]

||

Then again after

[twilit lodge]

Surround the spoiler with || these ||

[gentle venture]

||nice||

[twilit lodge]

||This channel (and category) is for discussing the first H||a||des ga||m|| e. Please ||g||o t||o|| #h2-discussion to talk abo||u||t Hade||s|| II.||

Dang I really hoped that I could spell amogus

[latent moon]

Amgous

[gentle venture]

damn so close

[gentle venture]

This Feels like wheel of fortune though

[merry vine]

IM SO CLOSE EVERYTIME

Okay okay I can do this

I know what happened but I can fix it

[twilit lodge]

This is the way

Don’t get trapped in thinking you have to repeat the same build you had success with every time though

[merry vine]

Yep will experiment, I’m just figuring which keepsakes and which heat to choose. I have a solid plan then I just get bombarded by hades 😂 but I’m really close and I’m proud of it

[stiff obsidian]

i still get stuck in that trap

[jagged hamlet]

Go go go! You got this!

[merry vine]

I main Arthur so I like Aphrodite into Artemis but I do like sticking to Artemis a bit more for crit but any suggestions would be always a help

I might switch to bow

[twilit lodge]

Are you still trying for your first clear?

[merry vine]

Nope 32 H

[twilit lodge]

Ooh

[gentle venture]

O h

[merry vine]

LMAO

[gentle venture]

welp this is where my expertise runs out

i’ve beat 6 heat

[mint coral]

What pact are you doing

[merry vine]

It’s okay it’s okay

[twilit lodge]

32 Heat is free just do it on your tenth clear

[merry vine]

I followed banana’s guide with a few adjustments

[stiff obsidian]

play eris its actually so free for 32

there are so many ways a run can go right with it

[merry vine]

Still trying to figure it out but rn max time limit, maybe a mix between overtime and hard labor

[merry vine]

Maybe, I’ll give it a try

[mint coral]

As someone who does that, max either of them tbh

[stiff obsidian]

kbm or controller

[merry vine]

I did really well with full overtime

It’s just hades running around and hitting me like the flash that gets me 😂

The rest of the run is relatively easy

[mint coral]

If you wanna stick with Arthur I'd do max hard labor for that exact reason lol

That thing is slow

[merry vine]

True but the dash swing is just so good

Just hits everything

[twilit lodge]

Arthur dash is good with double edge

Otherwise I find it’s better to do the standing combo

But know that you can dash in between the hits to stay mobile and the combo continues

You can sort of windup cancel with this

[fervent radish]

Arthur 32 you could probably start Zeus cast and look for rod

Or arty attack and look for rod

Should make bossing a little easier if you want to focus on not dying

[stiff obsidian]

[fervent radish]

Very anyheat brained I know

[merry vine]

Ooouuu okay okay will definitely try that next

[noble quarry]

And done

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[gentle venture]

If someone relatively experienced were to hypothetically be starting a fresh file and wanted to get to 10 clears as fast as possible while also knocking out a reasonable amount of achievements/trophies in the process, what would you tell them?

[stiff obsidian]

do you mean youre going to do that and want advice?

[gentle venture]

I’m probably starting a ps5 save file soon as a platinum race with two friends so yeah

[stiff obsidian]

id ask @lavish sorrel