#h1-discussion

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stone rune
vague viper
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rama would share all the targets doom damage right

stone rune
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shared suffering is only for attack damage

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the white number your attack deals

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it will also not share like

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zeus attack

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effect

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or other flat damage

vague viper
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that’s so cringe I would’ve thought it was all damage

stone rune
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its still good

vague viper
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not as good as it could be

stone rune
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and that way is intuitive

void vigil
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could not agree more

stone rune
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if it had some damage but not other damage then you would be like "well does it do this or this or this or this or this"

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and there would be like 3 random ass exceptions id need to explain every time

vague viper
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morbing out rn

tepid light
void vigil
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anyway just remember to have a respectful discussion in this channel and the server in general, whether in regards to gameplay or something else. thanks ✌️

tepid light
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chunking an enemy twice with both rama attack and the rama mark is always funny

vague viper
tepid light
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i give you permission

void vigil
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its preferable to keep it on topic

gentle venture
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I don’t know, considering that some of them wanna throw shade at people for having fun instead of being optimal

i think imma throw it back

stiff obsidian
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nice automod

tepid light
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rip shrimp, instantly slammed down by the bot

hoary pebble
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Drowning 😔

vague viper
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it wasn’t even like a message the gif just had the forbidden s word

hoary pebble
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Slimy

stiff obsidian
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slim shady

vague viper
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sitting down in my freshly pooped pants

fervent radish
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rama cool

jagged hamlet
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WR-setting jazzbot makes me laugh every time zaglol

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So hecking optimal

mint coral
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Bro thinks he's jesus

hoary pebble
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Ok I’m doing the 32 hear run

old bluff
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What aspect?

autumn cove
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What aspect?

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Why does it say that when i ask which aspect?

old bluff
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Stickybot is here because people kept putting Hades 2 spoilers in this channel, it is meant to deter others from doing so. It tries it's best to stay at the bottom

rustic osprey
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How does pierced butterfly keepsake work? Does it reset if you take it off, does it stay even if i take it off, or if i take it off and put it back on later it stays at same level?

jagged hamlet
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You can't equip a keepsake twice during a run. You'll lose its bonus if you take it off, which is frankly fine because a 1 to roughly 30% additive bonus isn't worth very much at all

rustic osprey
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Ah

plain mortar
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Tmw you have 545 health and 3 death defiances and still lose to extreme measures hades 🥲

hoary pebble
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😔

pine pond
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Hay guys

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Which weapon is yall favorite my top 3 are spear, fists, and gun

jagged hamlet
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I really love Zagbow and Hestia

mint coral
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Bow/rail/shield lul

pine pond
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Ok

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I started playing hades like 2 weeks ago and I'm not too bad at this game I beat the final boss twice

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I will neither confirm nor deny if I used god mode or not

pine pond
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Yall got a favorite character? My is thanatos he cool as hell bro

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Get it

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Cause the game takes place in hell

twilit lodge
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Oh it does?

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That seems like a spoiler

pine pond
old bluff
pine pond
old bluff
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Beowulf, it's a shield aspect

pine pond
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I got like a keepsakes thing to help me beat the game || first I use thunder signet to get a zues upgrade since those are really good then I switch to chthonic coin purse for money and then I switch to old spike collar to tank alot of damage and then finally I use lucky tooth for another death defiance against the final boss ||

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Also you guys can ping me I don't care it doesn't annoy and I will more likely see your reply but don't like mass ping me

hoary pebble
pine pond
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I'm pretty sure bone hydra is the only character in the game without voicelines

twilit lodge
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He’s just the god of the underworld and wealth

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Than is the god of death

jagged hamlet
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Did the Greeks even conceive of a heaven?

twilit lodge
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Just less bad hell, I think

jagged hamlet
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Yeah. I feel like even the Israelites didn't really consider heaven

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Huh! I guess Hades is quite anachronistic in that regard: my understanding is that even by the time of the Romans, nobody would really consider coming back to the material world

pine pond
pine pond
unreal mason
jagged hamlet
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mmhm!

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Though I feel like for a lot of those too the idea was to not return to the material

narrow hemlock
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theres several instances in mythos where a name refers to a space and also a god of the same name

pine pond
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I did not know that

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I more of a science and astrology kind of person mythology is something I don't really pay too much attention to

narrow hemlock
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yes! the house of hades is not just the literal dwelling hades and the others reside in within the game but the realm as a whole

mint coral
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Erebus is also one of those no

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And chaos

pine pond
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Hm

twilit lodge
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So did hades have a different name before he moved to hades

pine pond
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How do I get the last regular keepsake?

twilit lodge
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Or was this just like a really good coincidence

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The last one that shows as a missing keepsake is from Mom

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The actual last one in the list is from Dad

pine pond
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I beat the game twice and still haven't got it

twilit lodge
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Same way you get almost every keepsake

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Gift nectar to that person once

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If you’ve only cleared the game twice you cannot do that yet

pine pond
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Ok how do I gift her nectar got to her twice with nectar and still didn't get it

pine pond
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How many times do I need to do it

twilit lodge
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More

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||10||

pine pond
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WHAT

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THAT IS GONNA TAKE FOREVER

twilit lodge
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Become faster

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Or don’t, if you’re enjoying the game it’ll happen before you even realize it

jagged hamlet
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Become...jazz

twilit lodge
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Do not

jagged hamlet
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Do it!

twilit lodge
pine pond
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I'm trying to get either Thanatos, Achilles, or Sisphyus secret stash thing I got max hearts with sisphyus and Achilles but for some reason it's still not giving me the quest

unreal mason
# twilit lodge So did hades have a different name before he moved to hades

I'd guess within the story they both had the same name since they were "destined" by the fates to be connected, hence Hades always had the name of the underworld. Although that being said you could just as easily refer to the underworld as "the underworld" since there weren't any mortals around when he was born (if I remember correctly).
Within actual etymology "Hades" seems to have a similar meaning to "unseen" hence Hades' the god was the unseen god and "Hades" the realm was the unseen realm (although this is contested). Many ancient greeks would also be fearful of saying Hades' name so many referred to him by other names also.

twilit lodge
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Achilles is also pretty notorious for having tons of dialogue, and more are added to the pool every time you accomplish just about anything

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And it’s random which eligible conversation you get

pine pond
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... flip I just died to a secret boss

lusty widget
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my bow does 850 dmg per shot oml

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op fr

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YO

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I FINALLY

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KILLED HADES

jagged hamlet
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Congrats! Please enjoy the scenery!

latent moon
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gamer

lusty widget
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lowkey sad though

tepid light
tepid light
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but usually i just hear it as 'the realm of hades' specifically to avoid that confusion

pine pond
hoary pebble
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32 heat done!

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Yippee

mint coral
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Gg

umbral dew
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beat my best time but it was a far cry from some runs i see. how are people beating this game in ten minutes?

stiff obsidian
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understanding builds and game mechanics

fervent radish
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sub 10 is nowhere near self hatred

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try sub 5

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or sub 6 on a weaker aspect

jagged hamlet
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If I can run sub 10, most people can too!

twilit lodge
old bluff
jagged hamlet
lusty widget
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It was 3 of the hammer things

pine pond
latent moon
vague viper
jagged hamlet
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Speedrunners are alllll around youuuuu

latent moon
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Well somenoobdying and I speedrun lmao

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And we've been here for a while

vague viper
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keep it up king

twilit lodge
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Bananas is a heatrunner

latent moon
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Tbf I haven't really been playing the game in general a lot

latent moon
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I've also done heat speed

twilit lodge
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Spheatrunner

stiff obsidian
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speat

latent moon
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True

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Speat

stiff obsidian
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am i a speedrunner

latent moon
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Speat kinda cursed tho bc of ap

latent moon
jagged hamlet
twilit lodge
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Heed the speat

stiff obsidian
latent moon
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It do be like that

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Heat speed is so difficult

vague viper
latent moon
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Real

vague viper
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this means you are my homie pwease

stiff obsidian
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‼️

latent moon
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Based

round hill
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I believe it doesnt but does attack speed from hermes affect spear spin charge up?

latent moon
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I don't think so but no clue lmao

unreal mason
round hill
unreal mason
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no worries

fervent radish
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Most of the people who are active here can be considered speedrunners in some sense

pine pond
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I got a question why is herme's keepsake the only god keepsake that doesnt guaranteed them to spawn and increase their boon rarity (I guess except for our character's mom doesnt have one of those but I did say God not goddess)

mint coral
twilit lodge
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Because he’s not a standard Olympian

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Imagine forcing c1 Hermes

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(It would be bad probably)

mint coral
twilit lodge
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C1 plume rush delivery pog

mint coral
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And not only that but the game really wants to make sure you get your hermes

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So even if you avoid it the game will keep pushing him tonyou

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Same applies to hammers

mint coral
pine pond
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Huh I didn't know Hermes and hammers worked like that

twilit lodge
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I guess I never really considered that being why plume is a prereq

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I just figured it was Like That

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Like how conch is a prereq for huge catch

lavish sorrel
unreal mason
drowsy jacinth
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Sun Wukong: "I cheated death!"
Puss in boots: "I fought death."
Zagreus:

umbral dew
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just finished a run and the best thing about it was finding both a voidskate and a sturgeon

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build? damage? nah, fish

iron epoch
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Starting a new save file and crying bc the sword is horrible. I try to save it by spamming the special rather than using attack

void atlas
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i fw zag sword heavy 🙏🏿

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stack flurry strike with hermes atk speed

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for mediocre damage

fervent radish
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we getting out of tartarus with this one

vague viper
fervent radish
vague viper
twilit lodge
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Good combo to avoid the issues that pure dash strike spam runs into

fervent radish
twilit lodge
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Namely, the standing strike combo working its way into your rotation

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Which is bad because the thrust makes your movement weird

fervent radish
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the same build will give you pretty good result

rustic vale
last axle
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Should I buy this game?

tepid light
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very addicting

vague viper
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like any good roguelike

jagged hamlet
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Only don't buy it if you don't know how to like persist

umbral dew
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i got all achievements, 100%ed the codex, and beat EM4, do i keep going and try to get the third statue or should i move on for now and play something else

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alternately do i keep pumping up the heat just to see where i tap out

mint coral
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32h ain't that bad if you know what you are doing so I say go for it

sterile reef
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how do i see the requirements for duo boons for gods

mint coral
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I believe you need to have seen all gods except dem/reach styx/have obtained a duo

buoyant socket
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Hella

stiff obsidian
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x 1 message hidden from likely spammer. -- Show message

high pier
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Anyone else having problems completing Demeter's boon list?

twilit lodge
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I’m pretty sure that the “all Demeter boon” prophecy is unlocked by you gifting nectar and receiving her keepsake so it should be fairly straightforward to use her keepsake to force seeing her, then it’s just a matter of making sure you fulfill prerequisites

twilit lodge
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I love when every channel says there’s new messages but there aren’t

unreal mason
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This channel (and category) is for discussing the first Hades game. Please go to #h2-discussion to talk about Hades II.

twilit lodge
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This channel (and category) is exclusively for posting unmarked Hades 2 spoilers, Please go to #h2-discussion to find spoilers to post here.

stiff obsidian
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This channel (and category) is for discussing the first Hades game. Please go to #h2-discussion to talk about Hades II.

high pier
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even with the keepsake her boon's don't appear as much as the others do with thier keepsakes

mint coral
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do you know how the god pool works?

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and do you have dark foresight on the mirror

high pier
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all mirror aspects are maxed

mint coral
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but are you using dark foresight or olympian favor

high pier
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there is only a 20% chance, but it seems more like 10%

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currently running with Olympian Favor

mint coral
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you def want dark foresight

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and once again do you know how the god pool works?

high pier
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God Pool????

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on PS4 by the way

mint coral
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when you take a boon from a god they are added to a pool
once 4 gods are taken they get locked in and the rest are removed from the run (exceptions apply)

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whenever a boon shows up then you have a 1 in 4 to be the god you want instead of the 1 in 8 of a not closed pool

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hermes and chaos ignore this cuz they work on their own way

high pier
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thank for the tips, I'll keep that in mind

sand mulch
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I think this is just diologue variations and not cuz I only fought her twice ever before being able to gift her but her diologue went from that rlly grumpy

"What are you doing? We're not supposed to have this here!" at first nectar to just directly going
"...I will take this contraband away now" at first nectar

sand mulch
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but I've only been able to do it by having 4 gods in tartarus and keepsaking in asphodel

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so I had like 5 gods once, zeus, ares, poseidon, demeter. Then keepsaked for Artemis and actually did get her

old bluff
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It's a feature

sand mulch
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does it work for 6

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like if you keepsake again in elysium

old bluff
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Yes

sand mulch
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huh
havent tried that

old bluff
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You can get all eight iirc

umbral dew
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but why would you want to do that

mint coral
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funny

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gotta get that 45% fam fav

umbral dew
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can't argue with that

sand mulch
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sometimes I do it when I get 4 gods and I dont like any of their casts

umbral dew
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how do you get all eight?

old bluff
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5 in Tart

sand mulch
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that one dem, dio, aphro, ares run and I just
didnt want any of 'em

mint coral
old bluff
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Take keepsake for the rest

mint coral
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or yeah 5 in tart, keepsake the rest

umbral dew
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how would you get 5 in tartarus though

mint coral
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done through, 3 gods into mid shop, buy 4th, door offers the 5th

umbral dew
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oh

mint coral
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it can happen naturally sometimes

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more like accident but same thing really

umbral dew
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so wait can you keepsake in styx? i've never actually tried that

mint coral
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yeah but is weird and I think sometimes it just doesn't work iirc

sand mulch
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is there a like

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run-clear title for that

mint coral
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or get all gods in the 1st run

mint coral
sand mulch
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aww it'd be cool

mint coral
umbral dew
mint coral
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I think the funniest one is the cast one tbh

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wdym press cast 1000 times bouldy

umbral dew
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brb, doing an aspect of poseidon run

old bluff
mint coral
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lmfao

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what cast wep

old bluff
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Hera

mint coral
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checks out

umbral dew
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i don't know enough about hades to question it

mint coral
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ig at high heat there's more chances to see funny clear titles cuz there is no prioritized one

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unlike zooming where you only ever see hermes would be jealous

twilit lodge
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Yeah

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Hermes jealous being priority is a bummer

latent moon
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also for speed, technically speaking you want to hit the cast button as little as possible lmao

mint coral
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that's why I said it checks out that it was hera heat that got it lmao

latent moon
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lmao true

mint coral
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my goat beo would never

latent moon
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hera can't kill anything

old bluff
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Hera heat kinda sucks

umbral dew
tepid light
lavish sorrel
tiny rover
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Was wondering how Steam achievements work if I buy the game and then transfer the save from my Switch version ?

mint coral
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So stuff like the epilogue will sync, selling a legendary won't

tiny rover
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noted gotcha

jagged hamlet
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A journalist shadeohboy

autumn cove
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Does hades give you the free fight on the 10th run?

fervent radish
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Yeah

autumn cove
fervent radish
latent moon
autumn cove
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😭

latent moon
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welp it'd probably be pretty difficult then lmao

autumn cove
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But i would just need to get to hades and not beat him but that would still be a challange

latent moon
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did you do 32 heat before if you're working on a new save rn?

autumn cove
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No i wasn't too focused on heat

latent moon
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okay yeah then it'd probably be somewhat difficult lmao

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hades isn't really the hard part for 32 heat either most of the time

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still a roadblock fs but not the hardest thing imo

autumn cove
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Then 63 it is

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No

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Lemme try 32 heat first

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What aspect should i use?

latent moon
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whichever one you like really

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also if you only have 2 clears then you can't do 63 heat

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would help

autumn cove
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Is dio or poseidon better for beowulf?

raw herald
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Poseidon is more consistent

autumn cove
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Timer got me on meg fight

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Witches are the worst in tartersauce.

stiff obsidian
autumn cove
stiff obsidian
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you could have a maxed acc by 10th clear im sure

autumn cove
stiff obsidian
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10th clear 32 heat shouldnt be hard at all, go for it

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i had my friend do 40h for 10th clear

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32 for 7th

autumn cove
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🤫 🧏

tiny rover
autumn cove
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Been playing it

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Started a new save file tho

tiny rover
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Don't have it on PC, so I'll have to boot my Switch for it

autumn cove
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But ok

tiny rover
autumn cove
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No

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Im just joshing

tiny rover
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I'll buy it when it's on sale so I can transfer my save

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the mods look fun

autumn cove
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i haven't really tried the mods.

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I don't care for them.

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But the ones i have used were fairly fun.

tiny rover
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OlympusExtra looks really good

stiff obsidian
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i havent tried it

stiff obsidian
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h2 is olympusExtraExtra anyway

tiny rover
autumn cove
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Yaknow what

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I kinda want to play one right now.

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Wait how do i.

mint coral
autumn cove
stiff obsidian
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is that src legal

tiny rover
stiff obsidian
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idk havent opened that game in months

mint coral
stiff obsidian
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i recall someone saying zag reskinning is allowed

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not sure tho

lavish sorrel
hoary pebble
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I have 3 achievements left

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The Thanatos and Hermes ones and max ranking every keepsake

twilit lodge
drowsy jacinth
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Ahem.

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Charon:

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🥄

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Hermes:
🥄

noble quarry
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both trophies i still have to do

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those and max every keepsake

autumn cove
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Nemesis aspect #1 all i gotta say.

twilit lodge
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Nemesis is a fun one

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But it suffers from being a sword

strong owl
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Holy, I got an insane setup for gauntlets

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I made it to the last part of second phase

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On em4

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I had 350 hp and 3 death defiances

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I’m so bad at this game

fervent radish
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such is em4

stiff obsidian
fervent radish
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same, except my aspect is broken

autumn cove
wanton sierra
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I beat my personal difficulty goals tonight (25 heat with all the unique aspects, 15 heat EM4 Dad). I still haven't gotten the dialogue for epilogue though 🙃

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Also don't have the dialogue to release Achilles.

strong owl
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I was close to winning

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Just not skilled enough

strong owl
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Lol

tepid light
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I BELIEVE IN YOU, YOU'LL BEAT HIM SOON

uncut lake
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how do you get your victory screen to look different??

old bluff
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Contractor stuff

uncut lake
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literally just got it now thanks

stiff obsidian
strong owl
sage shard
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what is this item in charons shop?
its like a money bag with gold decorations on it
its 125 coins

strong owl
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I want the statue

old bluff
sage shard
strong owl
sage shard
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i dont think so

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ill buy that then

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what if i gift charon my little thing

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its like honey looking

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what does it do

strong owl
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It just increases friendship level

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For the charm

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Its kinda good

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Though other ones are better

sage shard
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wdym

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im new if u cant tell lol

strong owl
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Youll get a lot of honey so you can spend it if you want

sage shard
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i bought the game like when it came out but i was 13 and it was too complicated for me

old bluff
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You get a keepsake

sage shard
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so im trying to learna gain

sage shard
strong owl
sage shard
strong owl
sage shard
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oh yeah ur right

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ill just save it

strong owl
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If you use it on a god its easier to go for builds

sage shard
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what if i use it on gods? what does it do?

old bluff
sage shard
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does it just start me with 2 extra upgrades instead of one?

strong owl
strong owl
sage shard
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who is good?

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what gods have the best stuff

strong owl
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Hes good all around

old bluff
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It depends on what weapon you are using

strong owl
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That too

sage shard
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also chaos seems like horrifyingly cosmically sinsister lmao

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whats the lore around chaos

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i got something to do with it and it just like freaked me out

sage shard
strong owl
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Oh

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You want zeus then

old bluff
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Shield just wants cshot hammer lmao

sage shard
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the run im on rn i got dionysus

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i like his stuff

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it does a ton of tick damage and has nice ranged aoe stuff

strong owl
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Hmm

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The dps is probably really low against bosses

sage shard
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maybe? idk it does 20 damage a second where im at rn

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im like not far in at all

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im like maybe 10 mins in

strong owl
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Just keep playing and playing, you’ll eventually get a good run or a bunch of stuff

sage shard
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is this game well regarded?

strong owl
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The mirror is important

noble quarry
sage shard
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who da hell is megera and whyh is she talking to me

strong owl
sage shard
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bruh

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hope i do well i have like 40 health rn ;-;

strong owl
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Lol

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Damn bro

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Shoulda gone for more health

sage shard
noble quarry
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Aside from Chiron aspect only good at high blood

strong owl
fervent radish
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this does not look like a good video 🗿

mint coral
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The vid was eh yeah

sage shard
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ill do way better this time

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i cant believe how stupid i am

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i didnt realize until now i can block with my shield

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...

noble quarry
strong owl
sage shard
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i have 6 keys should i get the bow and trident

strong owl
sage shard
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oh

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looked like a trident

strong owl
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Save for the gauntlets

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Its the easiest

sage shard
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it says my farthest chamber reached is 15

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is that good

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i have like 3 hours on this game

fervent radish
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it's aight

strong owl
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Its fine

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Its good for a new player

sage shard
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bro i got the wine guy again

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well at least i liked him

fervent radish
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don't worry about comparing yourself before you've beaten a few runs. if you're competitive like that, there's plenty of ways to scratch that itch

sage shard
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should i gift him

strong owl
sage shard
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can i still gift him if i already clickec accept

sage shard
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bruhhhhhhhhh

strong owl
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Lol

sage shard
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its fine ill just wait and see how this goes

#

should i go to the chaos thing

jagged hamlet
sage shard
#

or keep going

strong owl
#

Haelian is a good hades youtuber

sage shard
#

ares boon, chaos hole thing, or the +25 max health

strong owl
#

Though i got banned from his server for some random ah reason

strong owl
#

It should be good with dio

fervent radish
#

hangover zeus 🤮

strong owl
fervent radish
#

haelian is marginally better at the game, same quality of build advice though

jagged hamlet
#

P-pancakes is evil? shadefear

sage shard
#

ima gift ares!!!

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this time i will do it before i click accept lol

#

whats a blood filled vial

old bluff
#

Haelian is good for beginner tips and funny builds, but he does not hold up at the top level lmao

sage shard
sage shard
jagged hamlet
#

Is a tasty snack. Or you can equip the vial to force an Ares boon

sage shard
jagged hamlet
#

The first half was a joke: you can't eat it

strong owl
sage shard
#

oh

sage shard
strong owl
strong owl
sage shard
#

lmao

fervent radish
jagged hamlet
#

You 🦦 experiment a bit more

sage shard
fervent radish
sage shard
#

i just went with CoV

strong owl
#

Hold on, ima see if im still banned

#

Its been a year or something

sage shard
#

u are

#

i checked

jagged hamlet
#

You'll learn Hades best if you spend some time exploring your options a bit more organically. Right now you're turning yourself into Twitch Plays Pokemon

sage shard
#

what does this mean

jagged hamlet
#

It means you're asking for inputs for just about everything

sage shard
#

🦦 squirtooh

jagged hamlet
#

That said, a lot of the tooltips are misleading and some of the mechanics obtuse, so you'll eventually benefit from chatting! But for now the underworld is your oyster!

sage shard
#

am i still allowed to ask questions

strong owl
#

Im still banned shadegrief

#

Idek how i got banned anymore

sage shard
#

what does mirror do

#

panckacke said it wa simportant

strong owl
sage shard
#

OOH!! i found a zues boon icon entrance to an encounter with a miniboss in it

#

lets see what it hold

fervent radish
jagged hamlet
sage shard
jagged hamlet
sage shard
#

oh cool i found zeus aid im gonna see how good it is

jagged hamlet
#

Minus aspects selection and upgrades UI LOL big sticking point for many players

sage shard
#

wdym

jagged hamlet
#

I wonder whether columns for the aspects menu would've worked better than rows thanthink

#

There's a certain menu which you'll encounter later which many people seem to find unintuitive

old bluff
#

It do be kinda confusing

sage shard
#

can i save and leave and continue my run? or nah

pearl trail
#

should hades 1 be finished first before playing hades 2

sage shard
#

like leave the game

jagged hamlet
#

Yes

pearl trail
#

i dont have either but if hades 2 is fine by itself id do it

#

cuz both of them together are expensive

jagged hamlet
#

Just don't press "Give Up" since that puts you right back in the courtyard before the start of your run

sage shard
#

ohhh okay

pearl trail
sage shard
#

and there are the 3 options

#

does like lets say one being epic and the other two being like common mean inherintly the epic one is better

#

is see websites saying battle rage is really good on ares but i got an epic blade dash and im wondering if that means its better

jagged hamlet
#

Rarities should only be considered

#

within the boon itself, not for comparisons

#

with other boons

#

And often

#

Rarity doesn't matter for a lot of

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Important boons anyway

#

Also don't pay attention to most websites: their information about Hades is just really, really, really bad. This includes a lot of YouTube and Reddit

noble quarry
jagged hamlet
#

Oh my gosh typing in short phrases + newline feels horrible

noble quarry
sage shard
#

bro i have to fight meg with 38 health? are you kidding me rn

jagged hamlet
#

Yeah that's a tough ask! Is doable though if you dodge very carefully and deliberately

#

That said, it was nice knowing you zagsad

sage shard
#

shes 60% hp

#

nice knowing you pwabito

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OH I HAVE DEATH DEFIED

#

LETS GO

noble quarry
#

have you tried not dying?

jagged hamlet
#

Darn your quick edit! I was gonna make a joke

sage shard
noble quarry
#

i felt a bad one coming

#

so quick edit

jagged hamlet
#

Oh you'd better bet it was bad zageyes

sage shard
#

DUDE I KILLED HER LIKE INSTANTLY WITH Zues' aid and the animation of her dying scared the poop out of me

i thought i died 😭

noble quarry
#

well let me be a bit kind to pwabito and give a small bit of usefull advice

sage shard
#

should i sell one of my boons

#

curse of vengeance, epic drunken strike, rare zeus' aid

noble quarry
#

if you happen to encounter athena take her dash if you dash into procetiles with that one they bounce back to enemy

jagged hamlet
#

I'd not sell the latter two

sage shard
#

ill sell curse of vengenace

#

its not good anyway

#

i just took it because it was the only option pretty much and it seemed cool

noble quarry
#

then again what weapon are you using?

sage shard
#

shield

jagged hamlet
#

Oh you know what? Given it's probably sword, you're right

#

Eh, same goes for shield

noble quarry
#

yeah think you want aphro atk

#

on that one

sage shard
#

-24 hp

#

time for chaos

#

ima gift chaos

jagged hamlet
#

We almost always take Chaos: Chaos boons are really good most of the time

sage shard
#

cosmic egg

noble quarry
#

on most weapons

sage shard
#

galaxy pet

#

omg

#

yay

#

star yolk

jagged hamlet
#

Chaos really offered you an egg in these trying times zagsad

noble quarry
#

feel like they chaoss doesnt do too much for bow though (not that it needs it)

sage shard
#

im guessing flayed lunge based off what you said before

#

oh wait he doesnt have set boons

jagged hamlet
#

I...don't know how to interpret those unlike most of the speedrunners here. Could you tell me which (temporary) debuffs and which buffs those are?

sage shard
#

its like a combo of the two

noble quarry
#

how many keepsakes do you have anyway?

#

feel like to start of with you want the olympian ones and skelly actually maybe cerberus helps at the start too

sage shard
jagged hamlet
#

All the cool kids start their runs with an Olympian's keepsake (unless Shackle)

#

I would take number 2

sage shard
#

i was right LOL

jagged hamlet
#

Good intuition. The baby Zagreus is learning

sage shard
#

what do keepsakes even do

jagged hamlet
#

Depends entirely on the keepsake. Take a moment to read their descriptions while you're in the courtyard

old bluff
#

They tell what they do 😌

sage shard
#

holy flip

#

i didnt know i could go into lava, im on 3 hp.

#

oh he dropped a burrito thanks

#

or whatever it was

#

now 14 hp

sage shard
#

thats what i thought

#

since its greek

jagged hamlet
#

Hah, you're more familiar with Greek food than I am

#

I had no clue what the food was supposed to represent for quite a while

sage shard
#

its rlly good lol

#

im on 3 hp

#

nice knowing you

void vigil
#

maccie d's

sage shard
#

oh my god

#

i survivw

#

no way

#

i have 1 hp

jagged hamlet
#

1 HP is all you need 😎

sage shard
#

i went from 3 hp to 1hp because i accidentlly used my Q so now -3 hp but since i had only 3 hp it didnt take anymore away and i just started spamming it

#

artemis boon? cool

jagged hamlet
#

Oh right. Chaos debuffs can't actually kill you. They'll only reduce you to 1 HP

sage shard
#

heroic exit wounds

#

good?

#

nah jk lol i wish, i got heroic deadly strike, rare true shot, and rare pressure points

#

itll replace drunken strike tho

jagged hamlet
#

Take Deadly Strike

#

Shield wants +% Attack boons

void vigil
#

its just my advice but a big part of the experience of the game is trial and error on your own, i recommend doing some runs before coming here to optimise zagsalute try and see which boons you like!

whole lichen
#

Hey all, didn't know there was a Discord server

#

Should have expected that

jagged hamlet
#

They found us! Everybody scram!

twilit lodge
#

Welcome

latent moon
#

most aspects want either attack or special, and the ones that want special damage benefit less since it only wants 1 thing from chaos compared to 2

#

the ones that want casts also have 2, technically 3 if you want to count the attack, although that matters at varying degrees with the aspect

#

the only weapon that doesn't really care about chaos is like fists lmao

#

dem fists for a chunkier special sure but you never really roll on chaos for fists bc it's not the main focus of your damage

#

unless you're doing super high heat and doing the explosive upper strat lmao

rustic vale
rustic vale
rich onyx
#

hello peeps

#

ok

stiff obsidian
twilit lodge
#

ok

stiff obsidian
#

olympus i accept this message.

#

NOO

#

NOO

#

dang

wanton sierra
#

Man... I was going for the achievement to sell a legendary boon. I had 3 legendary going into Styx and I never got an opportunity to sell them, even with running into 3 selling pools.

noble quarry
#

So what should it do with gems?

#

So i decorate house or go for a theme

wanton sierra
#

Yes

noble quarry
wanton sierra
#

I personally prioritized house because I didn't bother changing my themes

noble quarry
#

true

#

time to go on shopping sprea

#

Question hall or lounge

twilit lodge
#

Yes

wanton sierra
#

Lounge is a prerequisite for some dialogue and relationship gates.

#

I think, at least.

noble quarry
twilit lodge
#

I think the themes are fun

#

But either way you’ll be in for a lot of resource grinding to finish either of your two options

#

Might as well finish all the decorations first though, if you focus on all themes first (which is going to involve converting a lot of gems into keys and nectar), you’ll end up wasting some gems since once the themes are done any keys and nectar you find will be totally useless

rich onyx
#

anyone have demeter fists tips?

#

hate playing fists, and my current build is pretty bad

strong owl
#

Does anyone have the link to haelian’s server?

#

It says expired for me

#

Just wondering if it might work if someone sent it to me

#

Nvm

#

Im still banned

stiff obsidian
#

💀

old bluff
strong owl
#

Its been over 8 months bro

#

I didnt do nothing

#

And i cant change nothing

stiff obsidian
#

bans dont undo themselves over time lol

strong owl
#

Just not permanent ones

#

And i cant make a new account either

#

Cuz like my settings wont let me

wild solar
#

Heylo, new to these channels; I normally chat in the h2 channels, but I've been back in this game and am having a blast. Nice to meet y'all

#

Bro

stiff obsidian
#

yes'

wild solar
#

What's up my new friendo (maybe)

stiff obsidian
wild solar
#

Oh!

strong owl
#

Nvm, i got a second account running

#

Though the channels in the server are kinda dead lol

stiff obsidian
#

why do u even want to go there

strong owl
#

Idk

#

Cool server ig

#

Just wanted to find a community for hades

#

Like a small one

#

Yk

stiff obsidian
#

join speedcord then

strong owl
#

Idk what that is

stiff obsidian
strong owl
#

Hm

twilit lodge
#

Don’t do it

#

There’s speed runners in there

strong owl
#

Ok?

#

Whats wrong with that

unreal mason
wild solar
#

This bot is getting on my nerves /hj

unreal mason
#

although we're more focused on gameplay rather than story so we'll probably not be great at theme analysis

#

same

stiff obsidian
#

haters

unreal mason
stiff obsidian
#

This channel (and category) is for discussing the first Hades game. Please go to #h2-discussion to talk about Hades II.

wild solar
old bluff
#

This channel (and category) is for discussing the first Hades game. Please go to #h2-discussion to talk about Hades II.

void vigil
#

Am I seeing double

wild solar
#

This channel (and category) is for discussing the first Hades game. Please go to #h2-discussion to talk about Hades II.

twilit lodge
#

No that’s quadruple

hoary pebble
#

This channel (and category) is for discussing the first Hades game. Please go to #h2-discussion to talk about Hades II.

#

Thanks

fervent radish
#

This channel (and category) is for discussing the first Hades game. Please go to ⁠#h2-discussion to talk about Hades II.

fervent radish
old bluff
#

We're usually chill

#

Although if Jazz is your main experience with speed runners, I could understand

hoary pebble
#

I might take a break from this game

#

I don’t have much left to do anyway

twilit lodge
stiff obsidian
#

technically everyone a speedrunner

#

there are just good speedrunners and bad speedrunners trollFace

strong owl
#

Bro why did no one tell me there was two exits in the dining room

#

I have to walk around every time

twilit lodge
#

There’s only one door until you add the other

#

But ngl I never even remember to use it

#

It’s hard to even see

mint coral
#

Goofiest shortcut ever

#

Tbh I would remove it if I could

#

Makes the lounge look worse

sage shard
#

what do keepsakes do

wild solar
#

Keepsakes give different effects, you can mouse over them in the Keepsake Case to see what they do!

twilit lodge
#

Early on, the ones from Cerberus and Skelly will help you survive longer so you can discover more boons and resources

#

Eventually you’ll find the best results using the keepsakes from the Olympian gods to force seeing them in Tartarus and asphodel so you can shape your build

#

And for the third and fourth bosses the acorn from Eurydice is very helpful for survival

sage shard
#

egg

#

from poseidon should i get sunken treasure, or flood shot, or tempest flourish

twilit lodge
#

Egg is very meme but not terribly helpful

sage shard
twilit lodge
#

Everyone likes chaos

sage shard
#

okay ima just go with sunken treasure

#

ehh na

#

ima go with tempest

old bluff
#

What weapon

sage shard
#

shield

old bluff
#

Flood shot is prob best

twilit lodge
#

Tempest flourish is fine since you don’t need to use the special ever on shield

sage shard
#

i spam it lol

#

i use it all the time

sage shard
twilit lodge
#

It does more damage than the shield special bouldy

sage shard
#

yeah but you have like 1 shot and you have to go collect it after wards so its at least 3 seconds per

#

the shield q you can spam

mint coral
#

Shield special disables your attack until it comes back

twilit lodge
#

Which also disables your block

mint coral
#

So you lose actual dmg and defense through blocks and bull rush

#

Pos cast is a solid extra for AoE

#
  • the passives are nice
#

Namely razor shoals (enemies take dmg while moving for a while) and breaking wave (slams create a water explosion)

sage shard
#

how do u slam

twilit lodge
#

Use a Poseidon attack to knock enemy into a wall

old bluff
#

Slamming enemies into walls

sage shard
#

ohh

mint coral
#

Can also slam them into each other

#

Shield attack has knockback by default too

rich onyx
mint coral
#

Do you have the hidden aspect of the spear

rich onyx
#

70 hours

#

shield is my HIGHEST heat

#

but still no beowulf...

#

i dont get it

mint coral
#

Have you gotten the dialogue of chaos mentioning that you are using the shield?

rich onyx
#

dont think so, but im only 60% sure

mint coral
#

That may be the only blockage but even if you have it and don't remember the only answer is just keep visiting chaos

#

Just might wanna keep the shield on to make sure

rich onyx
#

yeah it just makes me very sad

mint coral
#

I assume you are done with main story?

rich onyx
#

yeah

mint coral
#

Or the nyx/chaos story line

rich onyx
#

ive beaten mainstory, i think im done with nyx/chaso

mint coral
#

Have you reunited them?

wild solar
#

Reveal the Aspect of Guan Yu (does not need to be unlocked with Titan Blood)
Have a total of 5 Titan Blood or more invested into Shield aspects
If you have not previously received the following dialogue from Chaos, talk to them with the Shield equipped until you do:
“ You come to my domain bearing an all-seeing artifact that sprang from me after the dawn of time. It is considered a defensive instrument, I do believe. Though, I suspect you have discovered, or soon shall discover, it is nothing of the sort.]

#

reqs

mint coral
#

If you have but was done a while ago

rich onyx
#

actually im not sure

mint coral
#

Oh yeah you prob are getting that prioritized by the game atm then

rich onyx
#

ive been skipping dialogue a lot

mint coral
# rich onyx no

Check their codex page if either of them still have the lock in the hearts

rich onyx
#

is furthering their relationships necessary tho for beowulf

mint coral
#

Nope

rich onyx
#

hm ok

rich onyx
#

js praying for chaos to give me the waking phrase

mint coral
#

Basically the game has a pool of dialogues, meeting certain pre reqs puts them into this pool

#

But some are more prioritized over others, for example main story stuff or their story lines

#

If you haven't finished their story line is prob better to just not give then more nectar to either si more dialogues about that aren't added

rich onyx
mint coral
#

Outside of that is just luck

rich onyx
mint coral
#

If you really wanna push it just rush through tartarus for chaos, get whatever dialogue for that run then instantly commit die at the nearest enemy or trap and try again

#

Can push it farther by using enemy dmg heat + trap dmg

#

Swapping to stubborn defiance also good so you can die faster (or just turn off revives entirely)

rich onyx
#

forgot entirely bout the light side stuff

#

good idea

mint coral
#

If you want to check the optimal mirror in general there's a guide pinned in #h1-for-new-players

old bluff
#

(written guide, not video guide)

rich onyx
#

my mirror is basically all dark, last 3 are light tho

mint coral
#

Is just pinned there cuz it was first posted there lol

rich onyx
#

yeah i see it, looks like most people's i think

#

i just need to switch up a couple things

old bluff
#

Biggest one is Dark foresight

#

It's so good

mint coral
#

They have it already at least

#

Prob just swapping shadow to fiery lol

#

And dds to sd if they wanna rush the beo unlock

rich onyx
mint coral
#

Legacy is a scam anyways 😌

sage shard
#

How do i check what boons i have

#

i accidentally chose a boon from chaos and didnt even read the options

#

how do i check what it is

#

oh b

twilit lodge
#

Better to use a god keepsake so you can form a better build, typically

rich onyx
#

i havent been using egg to win, i dont care bout beating a run, i just want beowulf D:

#

i like to enter as much as i can without dying

twilit lodge
#

I can’t understand that mindset at all, winning means more bounties means more progress on strengthening weapons and buying contractor jobs

#

But play how you like

rich onyx
#

k

mint coral
#

Egg doesn't matter just don't get hit after entering chaos dusa /j

twilit lodge
#

I wish egg boosted chaos odds

#

But alas

latent moon
#

something something dialogue rng lmao

latent moon
#

perhaps

#

i mean i'm not entirely sure but i wouldn't take the chances tbh lmao

#

it's not like egg forces a chaos encounter anyways

twilit lodge
#

That part

latent moon
#

so it's not worth taking to begin with

twilit lodge
#

Is the main thing I’ve been getting at

latent moon
#

if it did force a chaos encounter then it'd be worth it but it doesn't so there's no point lmao

old bluff
#

I actually don't know how useful it would be tbh

#

for speed

#

God keepsakes are just stupid

latent moon
#

for speed you'd take it on aspects that don't care about another god tbh

#

mainly the shackle aspects probably

#

it'd also be an option on beo if you already get mirage on tart, however often that occurs lmao

#

bc there's nothing really worth taking into aspho at that point

#

hourglass for well items if they're good

hoary pebble
strong owl
whole lichen
lavish sorrel
noble quarry
#

well there is also thou should pet the 3 headed dog before every run

round hill
#

another niche qeustion, but do either bouldy boons or hades' call count toward family favorites? I just had a run with 30% where I had 4 gods, hermes, a bouldy boon and hades' call, of the latter 2 im not sure which counted

round hill
#

im very confused then

#

lemme double check the victory screen

#

ah apparently I did get a 5th god by accident and im just blind

#

my apologies

noble quarry
mint coral
#

There's a red shade with your banner

noble quarry
#

which means there are now 2 people in elysium that dont wanna murder you

runic jungle
#

This science is so weird to me lol
I noticed that I play way better and is more likely to beat hades if I have at least 200 hp.
Something about having high health just makes things a little bit easier I swear

noble quarry
vague viper