50 heat is high heat
#h1-discussion
stiff obsidian
fervent radish
and then I think i found hestia easy enough that i wanted to push 40
my first 50 was....zeus?
stiff obsidian
ok so u were the last person to start high heat
mint coral
I did 50 long after y'all pretty sure
fervent radish
that was after i joined old speedcord
fervent radish
ok so u were the last person to start high heat
one of yeah
well i think alex might have actually done 50 after me
old bluff
I did 50 at one point
fervent radish
but i'm not sure
old bluff
In like April
mint coral
I did 50 long after y'all pretty sure
Took me till seeing angel push heat with zag shield to try myself lol
stiff obsidian
oh
stiff obsidian
I did 50 at one point
wow so sigma
stone ermine
chipi
twilit lodge
I asked my btd6 friend best towers and this is what they said
but IMO the most useful is a 205 mermonkey, 024 glue gunner, 401 alchemist, 204 boomerang, 024 cannon
Literally incomprehensible
Actually I guess it’s not too bad
stiff obsidian
besides relentless and stim i think they are just wrong
and stim isnt even used anymore iirc
u just stop at bbrew
mint coral
#771815559410876446 message
Wdym it has been 2 years
stiff obsidian
i just saw edward react to that
stiff obsidian
https://discord.com/channels/523766637212598276/771815559410876446/9739796233376...
i didnt even have the game until an entire year after that
latent moon
My first 50 was on beo and it took like 8 attempts lmao
mint coral
i didnt even have the game until an entire year after that
When the time passes 
stiff obsidian
i did 45 first iirc
fervent radish
I remember first 50 being a struggle because I jumped from 32 on Zeus
mint coral
I did 45 em4
latent moon
my 50 journey was
get sub9 -> do 32 heat nearly deathless -> 2 attempts at 40 -> 8 attempts at 50, with only the last attempt not having em4 and clearing
i must've been on drugs or something back then jesus
latent moon
real
fervent radish
Packrats last recorded run
stiff obsidian
🥲
fervent radish
After that he just became an sggcord gremlin
stiff obsidian
twilit lodge
besides relentless and stim i think they are just wrong
They wanna know how many chimps medals you have
stiff obsidian
i blackbordered all advanced and expert maps
although anyone can do that now
i spend most of my time i challenge editor
doing funny challenges like 2tccabr
twilit lodge
doing funny challenges like 2tccabr
What do all these letters mean
stiff obsidian
two tower chimps coop alternate bloons rounds
raw herald
besides relentless and stim i think they are just wrong
well press is good
but now 024
sleek cliff
and stim isnt even used anymore iirc
no way stim is broken
sleek cliff
doing funny challenges like 2tccabr
🤓
old bluff
hoary pebble
stiff obsidian
wtf tree69420
sleek cliff
wtf false side
twilit lodge
wtf wtf
jagged hamlet
packrat speedrun arc
Oh my gosh I was amazing
stiff obsidian
you are
twilit lodge
I can’t my nitro ran out
tepid light
I can’t my nitro ran out
CHANGE IT
stiff obsidian
watch youtube
wary bay
watch youtube
Dang my father did not agree that my uncle will not buy me a ps5
-# this user is under the supervision of the CIA and the FBI
wary bay
good for you
Wait why?
stiff obsidian
didnt rly get that
wary bay
I mean
My Xbox is boring
I rly wanna try ps5 games
Honestly there is nothing fun
Rn
stiff obsidian
pc gaming>>
sleek cliff
pc gaming>>
ong
sleek cliff
Honestly there is nothing fun
play old games
lyric hawk
Yo. I was looking around for a speed running discord server for hades but this was the only one I could find. Can anyone help me find a speedrunning server?
stiff obsidian
lyric hawk
Sweet
sleek cliff
https://discord.com/invite/ezw6a4cN
is speedcord h2 now too
actually
ill get gud first
stiff obsidian
is speedcord h2 now too
Yeah but seperate channels ofc
sleek cliff
Yeah but seperate channels ofc
yea obv
stiff obsidian
Oh right ur not in it
sleek cliff
yeah
twilit lodge
Tree49620 moment
hazy path
Just clarify, boons that charge up god gauges suck right?
stone rune
wdym
the artemis one for crits cahrge call or whatever is garbage
smoldering air is good
mint coral
Quick favor is ok, smair is busted
If you mean the other zeus one or pos they are so so
hazy path
I ran smoldering air + quick favor and the gauge just straight up stopped moving the entire game.
stone rune
the hermes one is ok at heat
mint coral
Hunter instinct is sad
stone rune
quick favor is redundant with smair
hazy path
Oh then quick favor wasn’t the issue? Since smoldering air caps at 25 that means you can’t use greater call anymore?
hazy path
Ah. I guess aphro nuke made me thought it was essential in boss fights. I was playing the wrong way.
stone rune
aph and artemis calls are only useful at greater calls
mint coral
Aphro lesser call spam is still fun
twilit lodge
Proud bearing is pretty good
twilit lodge
Aphro small call spam makes dad very safe, good for runs that aren’t coming together
hazy path
Alright I’ll start using lesser calls now. Any tips for clearing HS? Hades vases pretty much cooked me lol.
*dad
stone rune
dont get hit by the vases
stone rune
the real solution is to instaphase him
hazy path
In a heat run I know it’s not recommended. I was doing the fates thing
mint coral
Are you doing HS for the prophecy, ah yeah
hazy path
Yeah
mint coral
Idk play hestia or something
twilit lodge
Just pop a few where you’re fighting him
mint coral
Snipe his ass
mint coral
Or roll for the athena boon
twilit lodge
Ez
twilit lodge
Sure footing carry
hazy path
I’ll try hestia. My index finger is going to hate me lmao
twilit lodge
For Hestia try remapping reload to left bumper
mint coral
If you have beo you can prob nuke his ass before pots are an actual threat
hazy path
Sure footing carry
That’s the Athena one right?
twilit lodge
Lowers trap damage yeah
hazy path
Oh yeahh
twilit lodge
In general it’s terrible
stone rune
use this to look at boons https://cpecific.github.io/hades-wiki/
no its not
its nonpommable
twilit lodge
But if you’re running HS, it has value
hazy path
If you have beo you can prob nuke his ass before pots are an actual threat
Do you still have that link of you destroying thesus in 2 seconds? That was too funny
mint coral
That's from jazz actually lol
stone rune
theres plenty
hazy path
ooh
mint coral
Oh nvm, the one I linked I think is not
hazy path
use this to look at boons https://cpecific.github.io/hades-wiki/
Thanks 🙏🏾
mint coral
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1028112977100017666/1127395567136423936/soundslikekrillissue.mp4 nvm I think it is from jazz(?)
hazy path
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1028112977100017666/1127395567136423936/s...
😂😂 yeah that’s the one
hazy path
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/857268448039927858/1198409640191479868/35...
Lmao that’s so cool
stone rune
i got a sub4 unseeded at some point but idk if i ever made a vid https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/787779451865399368/1217660080925708338/image.png?ex=66f41d92&is=66f2cc12&hm=e4bcde3a2b1022fd06cc0590c37a4ceed251f8ffaf4a986387081cd43ea18552&=&format=webp&quality=lossless
hazy path
Ima practice beo today honestly. The windup I need to get used to
fervent radish
In general it’s terrible
Not even, you can be way more aggressive in lernie and dad while maintaining high confidence
hazy path
For weapons like Rail and Fists, do you guys ever remove the attack at cursor option?
latent moon
rail yes, fists no
i guess there might be an argument for fists actually
i've just never seen anyone use or talk about it
latent moon
eh i dont think it's that bad
hazy path
i've just never seen anyone use or talk about it
oh I see
stone rune
you need precise aim because fists has aoe
latent moon
i guess
hazy path
yeah AOE makes sense. I’m just bad at aiming it since the gameplay is dash near at fast as possible and deal quick damage
Plus long knuckle with the cursor off looks safe on paper somewhat.
fervent radish
Plus long knuckle with the cursor off looks safe on paper somewhat.
long knuckle is safe, there's just no reason to turn off attack at cursor
hazy path
Hestia saved my life. I no longer have any reason to run HS anymore 
jagged hamlet
But but 64 heat
fervent radish
^^^
stiff obsidian
why do only 7.6% of players have 2nd skelly statue
do hades players suck that much
latent moon
some dont play after the first clear
or they jsut dont play the game after buying it lmao
stiff obsidian
still way too low compared to other games
i think most people such too much to get a first clear
latent moon
well maybe they just play until 10th clear lmao
stiff obsidian
maybe they suck
pure oasis
Hi i just finished playing like 10 times and reached the surface. Am I just like done? Or am I expected to play for ever
also lowkey got emotional at the boat ride
jagged hamlet
There's an epilogue. You probably also haven't completed all the little character stories
pure oasis
There's an epilogue. You probably also haven't completed all the little characte...
OMG YEAH I HAVE TO TALK TO THANATOS STILL
ok thanks
stiff obsidian
bump the 7.6% number please and thanks
twilit lodge
do hades players suck that much
Yes
latent moon
Make 400 more steam accounts to buy hades on and get the achievement on all of them
twilit lodge
It’s cheap and it’s popular
Stands to reason a lot of people bought it but didn’t get far in it
latent moon
Play it a few times and didn't like the gameplay lmao
twilit lodge
Or game hard
jagged hamlet
"Why do I keep having to play from the start?", probably
void vigil
"Why do I keep having to play from the start?", probably
It’s a common sentiment
“Where are the checkpoints?”
twilit lodge
void vigil
But some people are simply not interested in achievements or difficulty
old bluff
Some people play for fun
pure oasis
yeah I’m lowkey playing for the story but the button mashing is fun
twilit lodge
Maybe I’m Switchpilled but the skelly statues are something I went for because it’s “in game completion” over it being an achievement
Plus anything that gives new dialogue is “story” enough for me to pursue
Especially in a game as well voiced as hades
mint coral
Is gonna get ap'd
jagged hamlet
Does anybody feel like 
plus 👀 would be the best emote ever?
stiff obsidian
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1036040857255682098/1288286831204368485/i...
free money ❎
takes ur money ✅
chrome wharf
Does anybody feel like <:zaggrin:1012805270776316078> plus 👀 would be the best ...
~~is that not just 
~~
rustic vale
Does anybody feel like <:zaggrin:1012805270776316078> plus 👀 would be the best ...
More like plus
hoary pebble
Welp I couldn’t get the aspect of Beowulf today
The dialogue from chaos didn’t want to appear
Any tips?
twilit lodge
Visit chaos a lot
With the shield equipped
You may have already received it and forgotten
So make sure you’ve also spent 5 blood on shield aspects
hoary pebble
Ok Ty
twilit lodge
I assume you’ve already spoken the waking phrase to the spear?
hoary pebble
I assume you’ve already spoken the waking phrase to the spear?
I did
I looked on the wiki but I wasn’t sure if I was doing it right
Unlocking Beowulf I mean
topaz cobalt
does the amount of darkness you get from bosses depend on the heat level or is it the same at heat 0?
fervent radish
same
topaz cobalt
ok thanks
fervent radish
i wish it scaled with heat lmao
topaz cobalt
yeah i saw a video where somebody was getting more than i do so i thought it might
they must have something i don't
jagged hamlet
Best we can do is more darkness/time via FO2 and TD1
Always helps to get buffs from Chaos and Poseidon too
topaz cobalt
what's FO2 and TD1
fervent radish
forced overtime and tight deadline 1
FO makes enemies spawn/move quicker and tight deadline 1 stops survival rooms, which waste 45 seconds
stiff obsidian
meg gives you 0 darkness
twilit lodge
yeah i saw a video where somebody was getting more than i do so i thought it mig...
They had chaos boons or Poseidon boons
Popular darkness farming strategy is Poseidon start, hope for epic ocean’s bounty or whatever the bonus dark/gold one is, chaos darkness bonuses, and use bouldy companion
Can get a couple thousand darkness total with any luck
And since you’re getting darkness from bosses instead of bounties, you can use dark regeneration and be comfy even if your build suffers due to chasing the darkness bonuses
sleek cliff
Best we can do is more darkness/time via FO2 and TD1
u forgot em2
smh
ive been so em2 pilled that regular arena looks so wack
stiff obsidian
i had that when i tried ff a while ago
tepid light
ive been so em2 pilled that regular arena looks so wack
you know what's better than em2
em3
and you know what's better than em3
stone rune
em2
old bluff
and you know what's better than em3
Em4
snow saddle
topaz cobalt
The one time i feel like i have a good build and im excited to try it against the final boss, he just... stepped aside and let me go 🥺
i guess i beat the game now
fervent radish
i guess i beat the game now
Always more to do if you enjoy the game though
topaz cobalt
yeah i'm gonna keep going, just didn't expect it to just give me credits suddenly
fervent radish
It’s always 10th clear yeah
jagged hamlet
Dang that's pretty good
mint coral
I just read idk man in a completely different context to hades and still thought of the copypasta
rustic vale
I just read idk man in a completely different context to hades and still thought...
Idk man has become a part of my vocabulary atp
stiff obsidian
hades brainrot]
lavish sorrel
Idk man has become a part of my vocabulary atp
jagged hamlet
I'm out of the loop, but it sounds like that's a good thing 😅
mint coral
Wait have you not seen the divine dash copypasta
jagged hamlet
I think I have
lavish sorrel
Idk man as someone with 10 40 heat runs under my belt I will literally always pick Divine Dash over pretty much anything. Unless the build really requires a specific dash to create a broken interaction, Divine Dash is good with every build, every weapon, and is simply incredible. I agree with the top post of this comment chain that 8.5 is a little weird for easily the best Dash in the game.
mint coral
Core memory of hades community
stiff obsidian
Imasw14hrumbiwlapddopma.utbrrasdtcabi,ddigweb,ew,aisi.iawttpotcct8ialwfetbDitg.
jagged hamlet
Hooray for grand larceny
hazy path
`Idk man as someone with 10 40 heat runs under my belt I will literally always p...
Is it bad I think of Divine dash in this way?
The way it saves my life in Erebus is crazy
hazy path
I think of divine dash this way for fists spear and sword
Oh yeah definitely fists for me!
mint coral
Is it bad I think of Divine dash in this way?
Yeah I don't think is that wrong lmao
Is just the way is said
fervent radish
the funny part is using 10 40 heat runs to create authority
mint coral
stiff obsidian
the funny part is using 10 40 heat runs to create authority
stone rune
i think divine dash bad
jagged hamlet
jazz, no sarcasm: I really admire your immunity to downvotes
stiff obsidian
You think bad
stone rune
it makes u miss dash strike breakpoinst sometimes on brimstones and witches
stiff obsidian
Couldn't care less tho
fervent radish
skill issue?
fervent radish
<:pegalaugh:1232034697517989909>
tbf i don't have 10 40 heat runs so i could be wrong
stiff obsidian
I have like 24+ 40 heat runs 24 45 heat runs and probably 50+ 50 heat runs
I don't even nerrmemrt
stone rune
i have 200 gazillion 40 heat runs
stone rune
probably not
stone rune
do u not reset ur save
stiff obsidian
i do
old bluff
It’s saves some things
stiff obsidian
there are like 24 + 24 saved runs of just pbs
heat and speed each aspect
then i have like 100 clears on this cycle
and ofc many many attempts for each clear
the attempts to clear ratio is sad
latent moon
heat moment
lavish sorrel
It’s saves some things
doesn't save boonstats iirc, only those from your aspect PBs
hoary pebble
I still haven’t unlocked Beowulf
hoary pebble
So real
I also beat Charon twice in a row
I’ve gotten pretty good with aspect of zues too
fervent radish
I’ve gotten pretty good with aspect of zues too
Based
languid marlin
fighting charon is fun tbh
ive also been running 5 heat to get tartarus erebus gates since i can get it consistently (i do EM2 and MM) and once i get all the bounties there ill go up to 10 heat so i can get erebus gates in aspho
mint coral
Aspho erebus is bold
fervent radish
Ely Erebus is where it’s at
twilit lodge
I meant tart Charon
stiff obsidian
stone rune
disagree
languid marlin
Aspho erebus is bold
its ok im built different
(im not)
(im built quite similarly in fact)
hazy path
Got all the prophecy missions done. Wanted to thank everyone for all the help with this game. Wanted to experience this fully before I played Hades II. 
hoary pebble
Got all the prophecy missions done. Wanted to thank everyone for all the help wi...
Well done
sleek cliff
Did any of them usee divine dash
Idk man as someone with 10 40 heat runs under my belt I will literally always pick Divine Dash over pretty much anything. Unless the build really requires a specific dash to create a broken interaction, Divine Dash is good with every build, every weapon, and is simply incredible. I agree with the top post of this comment chain that 8.5 is a little weird for easily the best Dash in the game.
do i even have 10 40 heat runs
lemme think
latent moon
just do them rn
latent moon
ngl i dont think i do lmao
latent moon
yeah but tbf if i did an aspect >40 heat, i prob did 40 first
stiff obsidian
i dont have the game rn
??
sleek cliff
i think i have dem nem rama beo achilles eris hesty 40 rama beo 43 rama hesty beo 45 beo 50?
thats 13
i might also have luci 40
but idr
old bluff
Idk man as someone with 115 Beo sheets under my belt I will literally always pick Mirage shot over pretty much anything. Unless the build really requires a specific duo to create a broken interaction, Mirage shot is good with every build, every weapon, and is simply incredible. I agree with the top post of this comment chain that 8.5 is a little weird for easily the best duo in the game.
stiff obsidian
tree did i tell u i finall did allspects 50
sleek cliff
tree did i tell u i finall did allspects 50
nice
latent moon
mirage shot is definitely good with every build, including on ME
latent moon
oh lmao unfortunate
there hasn't been any patches recently right
yeah doesnt seem like it
mint coral
We need sticky bot in the h2 chats so people stop asking
latent moon
do they keep asking "when's the next patch" lmao
latent moon
you should start saying "last week" lmao
"yeah they added in another weapon and it's just the spatula from spongebob"
mint coral
I've been saying "when everyone beats [50 heat equivalent]"
latent moon
based tbh
mint coral
So do I but my weapon is op af so it doesn't care
stiff obsidian
u have to play so deliberately it just gets tiresome and annoying instead of fu
n
sleek cliff
"yeah they added in another weapon and it's just the spatula from spongebob"
brawl stars reference
😭
latent moon
brawl stars reference
real
sleek cliff
cuz i want assists
assists?
the keepsakes are just first nectar of everyone
if u mean the
uh
summons
theyre after like
mint coral
Summons are on 1st ambrosia
sleek cliff
that one thing on dusa meg than skelly sisy
yeah
im blanking on 6th
havent played the game in forever
oh achilles
right
twilit lodge
I miss brawl stars
fervent radish
do u know the order in which to give nectars to characters
just give meg as much nectar and ambrosia as possible for her companion
honestly the answer for gifting is always just gift as many people as you can, complete a run to refresh dialogue, and repeat
twilit lodge
If you get vanquisher’s keep you’ll be rolling in gems and can buy keys and then nectar with them
So you will be able to gift everyone you see every run, eventually
Make sure you look out for fishing spots too, those are good gem, key, and nectar income
lean nova
just give meg as much nectar and ambrosia as possible for her companion
thanks
latent moon
Spaghetti plate time
twilit lodge
Unfort
latent moon
It is no longer spaghetti plate time
hoary pebble
Very sad indeed
twilit lodge
Does pc not autosave each time you change rooms?
jagged hamlet
It does!
old bluff
It doesn't if you have too many runs or not enough space on your computer iirc
void atlas
It doesn't if you have too many runs or not enough space on your computer iirc
dyk how many runs that takes?
old bluff
A lot, like 2k plus
jagged hamlet
Imagine going 2k runs without having unlocked Beowulf
jagged hamlet
Did your save load to the courtyard? Force closing the game resets you to the courtyard, so maybe your crash did the same
mellow escarp
Hi, all. I've been a fan of SuperGiant since Bastion way back in 2010. I've finally had time to play Hades.
As much as I like it, I wanted to ask: Is it still being updated? There are a couple of grammatical mistakes in there and (not to seem joyless) I think they could be fixed.
void vigil
Nope, the team is working on hades 2 now
So it’s not getting any more updates
i wonder what grammatical mistakes you found, I’ve heard criticism of some translations but I don’t know what language you’re playing in
void vigil
It’ll keep on messaging to stay at the bottom of the channel lol
but I suppose you could still contact supergiant with the errors you found through the contact page
https://www.supergiantgames.com/contact/
Maybe in the hades feedback category
mellow escarp
The one that really stuck out was along the lines of:
An item one cannot do without it.
stiff obsidian
lol
mellow escarp
It's the description of an item in the contractor's shop.
void vigil
Yeah, the fated list (?)
I have never noticed that
mellow escarp
But I can't find it on the wiki and I'm not going to be able to start the game for another few hours
void vigil
When you can, I’d love to see because I genuinely don’t remember
mellow escarp
Do I get punished if I "give up"?
If not, I can just grab it now while I get dressed
mellow escarp
That's fine. Wasn't feeling the boxing gloves anyway
mellow escarp
Gosh I hope I maintain the gems I got
void vigil
No… 😔
mellow escarp
Goodbye, 30 gems
void vigil
Oh that’s peanuts, you’ll get it back in no time
mellow escarp
HAHA so I can't upload screenshots
woven ice
Sad...
void vigil
You can send links, and the image will embed
woven ice
Ooo, big brain
mellow escarp
However, it's the description of "Special Item":
An object that unlocks something you could not do without it.
void vigil
From Imgur or even discord or whatever other image hosting service you can think of
😭
Mistake slipped through the cracks
woven ice
However, it's the description of "Special Item":
> An object that unlocks somet...
kahdkahgd feels
mellow escarp
woven ice
Geh hehehejejeje do it.
mellow escarp
I was aiming for a second diamond
void vigil
It’s worth it!
mellow escarp
Kinda hoping to get administrative privileges or something
woven ice
Trust me... fish
mellow escarp
Okie dokie. I love seafood, anyway
woven ice
mellow escarp
Anyway, yes, that's one grammatical mistake I caught. There were a couple of others, but that was the one I cocked an eyebrow at.
I hope it doesn't come off as joyless; I love SuperGiant. I listen to the Transistor soundtrack at the gym.
But if anyone sees it...there ya go
StickyBot: Block'd.
woven ice
I was listening to pyre ost during my morning workout
mellow escarp
with that, I gotta go chase the rest of my day. I'll be sure to fish:)
woven ice
Good luck, may they never escape your hook.
stiff obsidian
i listen to the interstellar main theme while playing hades
void vigil
The music I listen to while playing hades depends on my mood
woven ice
I don't know what kind of mood I'm in rn...
stiff obsidian
thats what the ingame music is for
woven ice
Mitski... mi vida.
void vigil
Lol I was going to mention mitski but it’s too sad to play hades to
void vigil
I guess, I don’t want to cry while #slaying
woven ice
Lmao
void vigil
(The shades of the underworld)
woven ice
I like to do both ig
void vigil
I usually listen to everything everything or whatever else is in my brain at the moment. But it’s a really good band, I recommend
But sometimes the mood calls for doja cat and megan thee stallion
woven ice
Pretty man crying while slaying his enemies, what's not to love?
void vigil
etc.
void vigil
All spoilers are allowed in this channel 
void vigil
As he tends to be
void vigil
It’s a bot, not anything you said
woven ice
Lol I know i just like do be weird ig
twilit lodge
However, it's the description of "Special Item":
> An object that unlocks somet...
Where’s the error?
mellow escarp
Where’s the error?
The word "it".
twilit lodge
How is that an error?
twilit lodge
No it wouldn’t
Without “it” (the fishing rod, the “object”)
You could not do “something”, which is fishing
mellow escarp
The subject of the clause is clear in the sentence.
twilit lodge
And your proposed change completely changes the meaning of the sentence
“It” is not redundant in this sentence
They aren’t updating the game anymore, so it doesn’t matter either way
mellow escarp
"It" just refers to "something."
twilit lodge
Correct
languid marlin
the item unlocks something which you could not do without the item
its correct
removing the it is "the item unlocks something you need"
theres a difference there
mellow escarp
Wait, are you saying the sentence is supposed to mean, "It gives you the ability to do something you cannot do without that ability"?
twilit lodge
No, it gives you the ability to do something you cannot do without IT
mellow escarp
Ugh, I see what you mean now. That's just lousy
languid marlin
It (the item) gives you (the player) the ability to do something you (the player) cannot do without it (the item)
twilit lodge
It’s overly wordy
languid marlin
versus
twilit lodge
But it is correct
mellow escarp
"An object that allows you to do something," in other words.
twilit lodge
Yes
languid marlin
yeah exactly
twilit lodge
Just overly wordy
twilit lodge
Like most of the UI text is
mellow escarp
Yeah, that's just lousy style. Blimey
Most of the game is well-written, so that stood out.
woven ice
My poor boi
jagged hamlet
“It” is not redundant in this sentence
I really enjoyed the conversation about syntax!
twilit lodge
rustic vale
Let’s just assume achilles wrote it
Achilles has good writing
Have you read the codex?
half shale
stiff obsidian
incase u still care beat p5 twice for both endings then completed rad absrad for rad hog
lethal dock
incase u still care beat p5 twice for both endings then completed rad absrad for...
cool bro
stiff obsidian
need to find another game to postpone em4 practice
void vigil
you will practice EM4 🫵
mint coral
You will have fun with em4 🫵
stiff obsidian
👎
dusky swan
What companion am I missing? I have Meg's, Than's, Dusa's, Skelly's and Achilles'
lethal dock
need to find another game to postpone em4 practice
i dunno did you chek a hat in a time
drowsy jacinth
5 SIGNS YOU MAY BE A BOULDY MALE (BETTER THAN ALPHA?!?!) 🪨💀
twilit lodge
fossil tartan
So they released some sheet music for Hades, but didn't include The Unseen Ones
That's because if they released that, it would look like it's been censored with a black marker
But it's not censoring, it's just there are that many notes each beat
lavish sorrel
"banned for containing too many notes per second" indeed
sullen spire
Hades.
fervent radish
🗿
lethal dock
hey chat
stone rune
hi
lethal dock
vetbaitednv what game should i play
stone rune
vetbaitednv what game should i play
cruelty squad
lethal dock
cruelty squad
what is that
stone rune
it is an fps game with graphics that seem crazy but you get used to pretty quick
lethal dock
nah i know a cool fps game and am too lazy to play any other one
lethal dock
nah ill keep playing valorant
stone rune
i probably sent that one vid i did
stiff obsidian
the one which gave me eye ligma
stiff obsidian
this one yes
stone rune
you should watch uhh
twilit lodge
Top comment is “take Demeter boons /j” but unironically that’s actually good advice for most builds
stone rune
no its not
twilit lodge
Snurst is goated tho
stone rune
snurst is good but not often worth putting dem in ur pool for
and dem has no good cores
twilit lodge
Yeah I hate her cores but I like her for unpommables and snurst
stiff obsidian
snurts bad
stone rune
one of them is crop though
latent moon
crop's fine as long as you're not playing beo or hera
twilit lodge
Usually if you’re filling pool it’s early enough that crop won’t hurt
stiff obsidian
dem in tart is the worst feeling ever
90% of the time customs will screw you if you take nourished soul or crop
latent moon
are you saying that from a casual or high heat perspective
lmao that's what i thought
yeah for high heat dem sucks
also for speed, dem is fine bc of unpommables
stiff obsidian
either that ur u will get beam 🤡 ie no cast until u sell it
latent moon
she sucks if you're playing like beo or hera
she has a lot of unpommables so just take those
taking dem to avoid seeing her in theseus isn't like the worst advice it's fine
pure oasis
Guys is there a way to listen to the coast music that we used to get when we met Persephone? I miss hearing it
I got to my 10th clear and I’m just wondering if it’s gone forever
rustic vale
Guys is there a way to listen to the coast music that we used to get when we met...
Orpheus can probably play it
I never took the time to check all the music u can buy and have him play
pure oasis
ok thanks appreciate it
twilit lodge
It’s in the music you can buy for the music stand
Pretty sure it has coast in the name or description
topaz cobalt
what do you guys usually increase as your first pact of punishment conditions? so far i've been doing tight deadline and damage control (i'm at like heat 5 on my highest heat weapon)
are there some conditions that are generally considered to be easier?
twilit lodge
Tight deadline is free as long as you learn how to go faster
Extreme measures 1 and 2 are good to get used to
topaz cobalt
yeah i can make the 7:00 one easily. haven't attempted 5:00 yet
twilit lodge
3 eventually, once your bounties are 15+
topaz cobalt
is extreme measures the one where the bosses do extra things
twilit lodge
Benefits package is pretty free and has a prophecy
Middle management isn’t too bad either, and makes the barge actually suck less
Damage control is absolutely horrid on some weapons and free on others
I wouldn’t recommend using it always, because of this
topaz cobalt
i mostly use the weapons where it's easy. spear, fists, shield, rail
stiff obsidian
even on weaps that can take it it will slow u down
fervent radish
Benefits package is pretty free and has a prophecy
BP is not free starting out
stiff obsidian
yeah no dont do that
twilit lodge
Bp1 isn’t terrible early on, bp2 sure
topaz cobalt
i'm looking for a general idea of progression
i'm currently at low heat and noticed that tight deadline and damage control are infinitely easier than lasting consequences
twilit lodge
LC isn’t recommended until 32+
topaz cobalt
i originally thought LC wouldn't be bad but then i lost like 4 runs
twilit lodge
One level of it wouldn’t be too bad but it’s not worth hardly any heat so
Just avoid
topaz cobalt
so what's a good progression to stick to?
stone rune
this game hates me
fervent radish
Zeus?
stone rune
i have had so many sub250 aspho exits past few days
and none of them were even sub6able
twilit lodge
Oh yeah I forgot about this graphic
It takes EM3 earlier than I would but seems good for newer players to follow
topaz cobalt
yeah why does it take EM so early?
topaz cobalt
i thought td2 was free
twilit lodge
If it’s easy for you go ahead and use it earlier
stone rune
td3 is prob easiest heat in the game
twilit lodge
Adding em3 early isn’t a bad thing anyway, you’ll need to learn the fight
topaz cobalt
EM1 got me killed the first time i did it but that's just because it's a new boss
twilit lodge
And it’s a drastically tougher fight until you get it learned
Might as well learn it before the other heat kicks in
EM1 is just some extra stuff to avoid
topaz cobalt
i mean i could always go low heat and only do EM to learn it. extra darkness never hurt anyone
twilit lodge
This is true
topaz cobalt
i still struggle with theseus & asterius with some weapons though. bow and sword are especially difficult for me
fervent radish
i thought td2 was free
A lot of heat is “free” to the people you’re asking advice from so it’s tough to know your specific situation and preferences
jagged hamlet
i still struggle with theseus & asterius with some weapons though. bow and sword...
Must needs Dash-Strike!
topaz cobalt
i generally do very well with the very fast attacking weapons like flurry jab spear, long knuckle fists (the attack range is abysmal without it...), zeus aspect shield, and rail
i just stick zeus on it and it carries the whole run
topaz cobalt
Must needs Dash-Strike!
dash strike with sword? it really doesn't feel good and i haven't been able to get used to it. with the bow it just always feels too slow even with dash attacks
stiff obsidian
i just stick zeus on it and it carries the whole run
good job you discovered the meta
this can carry you to 40 heat
latent moon
yeah why does it take EM so early?
that graphic takes em3 early bc it's geared at helping you clear 32 heat as easily as possible
32 heat generally always takes em3, and if you take em3 early you'll just be better at the fight bc of experience
you can always just take em3 later and switch some stuff around
jagged hamlet
dash strike with sword? it really doesn't feel good and i haven't been able to g...
Yes, absolutely. Dash-Strike x2 into Special and repeat
latent moon
dash strike with sword? it really doesn't feel good and i haven't been able to g...
for bow are you sure you're actually dash striking
bc it's quite significantly faster
twilit lodge
Me when the measures are extreme
jagged hamlet
I don't know what to tell you regarding the bow, unfortunately
latent moon
where's the shackle gif thing
jagged hamlet
topaz cobalt
for bow are you sure you're actually dash striking
how do i know
latent moon
zag holds the bow differently and it does a different damage number
jagged hamlet
Compareth thyself to the video
topaz cobalt
it is significantly faster than standing still yes but it's still slow af
twilit lodge
how do i know
Power shot charges quicker
latent moon
power shot doesn't charge quicker
latent moon
well like
if you dash strike, you can power shot faster
but like
power shotting doesnt make you charge faster
topaz cobalt
does it seem that way because it's charging during the dash
jagged hamlet
No, the bow simply draws faster when Dash-Striked
twilit lodge
if you dash strike, you can power shot faster
This is what I meant? They asked how to tell if actually dash striking
stiff obsidian
Power shot charges quicker
you realize that doesnt even make sense
jagged hamlet
I got you, Smelly
topaz cobalt
i'm confused
stiff obsidian
the game cant know before hand if ur going to power shot or not
twilit lodge
Bro
stiff obsidian
how would a power shot charge quicker
topaz cobalt
because it brings you to max length faster
latent moon
This is what I meant? They asked how to tell if actually dash striking
yeah but whether you power shot or not doesn't depend on dash striking
you cant tell if you power shot if you dash strike
topaz cobalt
it gives you the power shot window earlier
twilit lodge
Swim asked how to tell if actually dash striking
fervent radish
because it brings you to max length faster
😏
stiff obsidian
youre confusing dash strike and power shot
latent moon
the easiest way to figure out if you're dash striking with power shots is looking at the damage number
on skelly
topaz cobalt
but you can power shot during a dash strike
stiff obsidian
yes
jagged hamlet
Yep
twilit lodge
And it’s
Faster
So when swim asked how to tell if actually dash striking
I said
topaz cobalt
youre confusing dash strike and power shot
so i don't understand this statement
twilit lodge
The power shot will charge faster
fervent radish
The power shot indicator happens first
jagged hamlet
Or you'll reach the Power Shot window more quickly
stiff obsidian
So when swim asked how to tell if actually dash striking
oh i see
topaz cobalt
anyways yes i am dash striking but it does still feel slow and i get hit quite a lot
fervent radish
I saw that
latent moon
@stiff obsidian what was that and can i have that image
twilit lodge
🍉
jagged hamlet
anyways yes i am dash striking but it does still feel slow and i get hit quite a...
That's an issue of positioning, I think. Maybe low damage too
latent moon
if you're getting hit still then yeah positioning lmao
fervent radish
Please post that again
stiff obsidian
fervent radish
You when em4
latent moon
also which bow are you using
jagged hamlet
inb4 Rama
topaz cobalt
my successful bow strat has been quick draw hammer or whatever that makes it so you just shoot and don't charge and then dio on the special with extra shots hammer
latent moon
my successful bow strat has been quick draw hammer or whatever that makes it so ...
were you using chiron or something
topaz cobalt
yes
twilit lodge
Flurry shot is alright
latent moon
yeah that might be why you feel like bow sucks lmao
topaz cobalt
the other ones are worse for me
twilit lodge
Zagbow is funny sometimes
topaz cobalt
well i don't have the hidden yet
twilit lodge
Hidden one is rough
latent moon
the other bows are considered a lot better than chiron
chiron just feels the most beginner friendly bc it's like a 2 button aspect and you dont actually need to power shot, so you dont need to figure out the timing or whatever
topaz cobalt
i tried hera and really didn't like it
jagged hamlet
Chiron? You can't mean Chiron of the infinite animation lock?
twilit lodge
You can do some crazy stuff with Rama but it’s kinda hard to learn
latent moon
i tried hera and really didn't like it
what cast did you use on it
topaz cobalt
i tried like zeus and ares i think
topaz cobalt
ok i can try that
twilit lodge
And Pom it aggressively
topaz cobalt
and what, put cast on my reload button?
latent moon
aphro's cast is like the only usable cast on hera
twilit lodge
I put cast on left bumper
latent moon
and what, put cast on my reload button?
whatever is most comfortable for you
topaz cobalt
yeah that's where my rail reload button is
latent moon
doesn't matter where as long as it's convenient
twilit lodge
For beo and hera, but in general I leave it there
Unless playing hestia
Or flurry jab
In which case I put reload and attack there respectively
topaz cobalt
yeah i guess L2 is kinda a rotating button
i feel like the bow really struggles with armored enemies
topaz cobalt
the reason i started using chiron was for the special + damage to armor hammer to rip armor to shreads
jagged hamlet
And not overkill the armor too much so you don't waste damage 
latent moon
piercing volley lowkey kinda cursed ngl
jagged hamlet
That said, Hera should do just fine against armor
fervent radish
Hera just does big damage lol
jagged hamlet
More importantly, Hera does big damage in multiple, separate instances!
fervent radish
Croven is broken and unbalanced
latent moon
hera should be fine against armor unless you're on bp2 and they have super armor lmao
topaz cobalt
so with hera, does it apply both the attack and the cast debuffs to the attack?
twilit lodge
The attack happens and then each loaded cast hits
topaz cobalt
like if i have aphro cast and lets say dio attack
latent moon
yeah the enemy will take 1 stack of hangover and get hit by the aphro cast
topaz cobalt
ok so dio will hit and then aphro will hit and then i'll get privileged status
twilit lodge
Better off just using family favorite I’d say
topaz cobalt
really? it feels like privilegted status is just better by a lot
twilit lodge
It’s better by 15%
stiff obsidian
it is
twilit lodge
When it’s active
topaz cobalt
yeah but just make it active all the time
jagged hamlet
All the time*
*after the second hit
topaz cobalt
eh it only matters on enemies where you need to hit them more than twice anyways
latent moon
yeah but just make it active all the time
high liklihood it wont be active in tart
topaz cobalt
neither will family favorite
latent moon
also priv status makes you look for unfavorable gods just to make sure you get it
twilit lodge
A lot of your attacking in a hera run is single cast load shots
latent moon
neither will family favorite
its active off the first boon?
twilit lodge
Which won’t even activate PS
topaz cobalt
also priv status makes you look for unfavorable gods just to make sure you get i...
no? i usually get it from zeus/pos or zeus/aphro
twilit lodge
Zeus pos is like
latent moon
it's also telling that hera speedruns commonly use snow burst from demeter with aphrodite cast
and still use fam favs
latent moon
no? i usually get it from zeus/pos or zeus/aphro
zeus and pos dont have a natural curse
topaz cobalt
i don't see why that matters when it isn't hard to do
jagged hamlet
Opportunity costs! You wanna start doing damage ASAP
latent moon
it's a consistent 25% every run vs an inconsistent 40% that might require bad/forced combos
topaz cobalt
i usually try to go for zeus on the fast attack, aphro on the slow attack, and pos on the dash
you say every run like i should be forcing 5 different gods every run
topaz cobalt
often it seems better to stick to 3 or 4
jagged hamlet
Hermes counts as an Olympian, eh
latent moon
basic 4 god pool that gets filled
and yeah hermes counts as the 5th
the game gives you random gods until you get 4 different gods (not including hermes or chaos)
jagged hamlet
I'm loving the Swinub RP
twilit lodge
3 god is bad in my experience because the game will waste doors throwing potential 4th gods at you
fervent radish
Anything past that doesn’t really matter
topaz cobalt
A good build should really only need 1-2 core gods and a scaling one
what do you mean by "scaling one"
twilit lodge
I try to lock in a 4th even if I don’t need that god as long as I can get something that isn’t detrimental
latent moon
you generally want to fill the god pool asap so you dont have a 1/8 chance of seeing what you want
fervent radish
what do you mean by "scaling one"
Artemis and Zeus usually
topaz cobalt
i've never really liked artemis tbh
fervent radish
Basically once you have your core build, you want either or both to make sure you have scaling till the end
This is in a speedrunning context though
jagged hamlet
What's the thing that's scaling in this case?
Are we talking 'bout good pommables?
fervent radish
Any damage
twilit lodge
Artemis scales with chaos and hunter’s mark I assume
fervent radish
He mentioned Zeus and Poseidon so arty would be good to have for scaling everything
twilit lodge
Zeus scales with more Zeus
latent moon
hera scaling is just charon wells
fervent radish
Artemis IS your scaling
Pretty bad by herself
almost every build can benefit from zeus call, jolted, billowing, pressure points, and hunters mark
hera is one of the few that just prefers to have more poms lol
latent moon
more poms and an hourglass
fervent radish
yeah
stone rune
i hate this game
tepid light
Now I need to do bow
bow takes some getting used to but it's fun once you get accustomed to it
main finch
hi guys
old bluff
Hello
old bluff
Yeah, don’t worry tho, it’s just to keep people from spoiling things
old bluff
also how can i send images
Send the image to another server or dm a somebody( pref a bot) and than right click and press copy image link
main finch
alright. but the image is not very needed because i just want to ask a question; do demeter malphon and rush kick stack?
old bluff
It does!
lavish sorrel
so this hits 10 times?
believe not, no
tepid light
believe not, no
someone should probably test it to confirm
main finch
someone should probably test it to confirm
i have finished the run and didnt take a closer look at that
also i got a heroic aphrodite special that gives 200%+ damage
hoary pebble
bow takes some getting used to but it's fun once you get accustomed to it
I’ll definitely try 👍
lean nova
I’ll definitely try 👍
i mean u could just do a blade rift run with bow
and then decimate everyone
hoary pebble
I mean yeah but I want to get a general feeling for bow before I go crazy with it
Yknow
old bluff
i mean u could just do a blade rift run with bow
Do blade rifts with Achilles spear
latent moon
so this hits 10 times?
nah it's more like rush kick hits 2 times and then +5 from the aspect
so 7 total
twilit lodge
what does this mean
It’s just progress on her relationship with you
lean nova
It’s just progress on her relationship with you
oh ok thanks
twilit lodge
The more nectar you give people the more of their storyline unlocks
lean nova
The more nectar you give people the more of their storyline unlocks
i cant give anymore nectar to meg though
twilit lodge
i cant give anymore nectar to meg though
I believe the scene you just asked about is part of unlocking the rest of her hearts, so you can give her ambrosia
lean nova
I believe the scene you just asked about is part of unlocking the rest of her he...
ohh ok
lethal dock
Yo chat whatsup
rustic vale
so this hits 10 times?
Your math is off even if it did work that way
It would be 12 if it worked by that logic, but
It’s 7
stiff obsidian
@void atlas that indicates fountain
old bluff
@void atlas It's a fountain
void atlas
oh is there any way to disable this?
it feels cheaty to know which rooms have fountains
stiff obsidian
yeah you can
old bluff
You can, but it does remove some rng
stiff obsidian
its intended rng
rustic vale
I’ll definitely try 👍
Bow is super duper fun
If you want to get a feel for it, you need to be dash striking though
old bluff
its intended rng
So is sack, hammer, barge, bull midboss, and Tony
stiff obsidian
yes besides sack and hammer they all are fair
void atlas
@fervent radish would you say there are any other hammers that would be nice after getting ER?
void atlas
i just picked a second hammer over HP but i kinda regret it now
rustic vale
<@364565425532436482> would you say there are any other hammers that would be ni...
Dashing wallop is the only one
old bluff
FG exists and is better
void atlas
I run ap2 so I usually avoid second hammer to not get forced into cshot
😨 if i had AP2
rustic vale
oh yeah
void atlas
oh i cant post screenshots
fervent radish
Yeah ap2 is a rough adjustment
rustic vale
Ferocious guard is so real
stiff obsidian
void atlas
Lol
rustic vale
That wasn’t the gif link that’s for sure
void atlas
youtube is trying to tell you something
stiff obsidian
what