#h1-discussion

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narrow loom
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It was someone on god mode and they can't get past meg for like 15 attempts

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Sorry 😭😭

fervent radish
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I remember the guy who hadn’t beaten the game in 400 hours

narrow loom
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oh i found the post

narrow loom
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it really had me thinking

twilit lodge
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That’s some serious willpower

narrow loom
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What does he even do

twilit lodge
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If true

stiff obsidian
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meg took me like 25 attempts lol

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20-25 idr

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i think 20 to reach 25 to bea

narrow loom
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Maybe I am hating too hard

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TBH now that I think about it meg probably took me around that much

jagged hamlet
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I wonder what happened to the one player here who was playing on God Mode and posted VODs for us to review

narrow loom
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I'm a hypocrite šŸ˜”šŸ˜”

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nah but fr tho

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400 hours and not beating the game once

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was he idle for 399 hours

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because like besides any skill improvements, the amount of upgrades unlocked by doing so many runs should make it possible

jagged hamlet
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Maybe is a button masher

void vigil
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when the game just came out it took me so many attempts to beat meg that i recorded a video of the room between biomes and of asphodel because i was like "i will never be able to do this again" LOL

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maybe she was harder then, maybe (definitely) i got better

jagged hamlet
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She's gotten mellow with age!

fervent radish
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yeah play zeus shield

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correct aspect to play

void vigil
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im bad w it

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mirage flight please return to me..... brb downpatching to 2019

fervent radish
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mirage flight šŸ—æ

fervent radish
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its crazy strong

void vigil
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sorry i love hera too much to play literally anything else

fervent radish
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tragic

void vigil
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crushing it as they say

fervent radish
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idk aphro special also crushes

lavish sorrel
rustic vale
void vigil
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again! try again!

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i think i may have gotten to aspho in ff. definitely not far

stiff obsidian
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tried a few runs today, died to heroes, maybe by the weekend illl have it

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didnt have ME

stone rune
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i got to styx after a few tries but its so boring and annoying

stiff obsidian
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yh its so slow

lethal dock
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when tf was i pinged here

warm flume
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Guyssssss

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I just beat elysium and im 14 mins in i hope i get good chamber luck in styx so i can beat my record

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Wish me luck shadeohboy

void vigil
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good luck!

warm flume
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Thank u nectar

mint coral
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Don't get sacked

warm flume
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Dont wanna end up in the satyr sack

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But i have poseidon boons so styx is easier

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Why does approval process always block out the best boon shadedisgruntled

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Just found the satyr sack at chamber 2

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Praise uhhhhh

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Which god

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Hold on

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The fates

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Bless the fates šŸ™šŸ»

mint coral
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Why are you speedrunning with ap on

warm flume
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Im not speedrunning

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Honestly im pretty new to the game (not like still in the story new) but im just trying to finish the prophecies

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But hermes just wont give me his legendary boon shadedisgruntled

void vigil
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hes stingy like that

warm flume
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He is

old bluff
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2 is the earliest the sack can show up on btw

warm flume
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Ive been using the plume for the last 10 runs

void vigil
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i love your pfp by the way its good

warm flume
warm flume
void vigil
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yes :D

warm flume
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Thank you shadesmile

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I love the shades

void vigil
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proud to say i found the sack in the first tunnel the first time i got there. and then it got patched to two

warm flume
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Especially zagreus one fan in the theseus fight

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Will hades 2 be on ps4

void vigil
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additional platforms have not be announced yet, but it will be on consoles

old bluff
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When it comes out of early access

warm flume
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Wish me luck that i beat hades in 1 minute and 10 seconds

void vigil
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gl!

warm flume
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That was a joke i def wont

void vigil
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you never know!

warm flume
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I still dont know how lucky i got to have my record be in 17 minutes

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Its always with the sword isnt it

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My best time before 17 minutes was 19 minutes and that was when hades didnt fight so u could go to persephone

void vigil
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i think my best is 15:15 lol

warm flume
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Wait what the hell

void vigil
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with either shield or fists

warm flume
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Why do i have 6 ammo

void vigil
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i tried to replicate it and have not been able to since

warm flume
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What did that anvil give me shadefear

warm flume
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Cuz at 15 minutes i just got out of elysium

mint coral
warm flume
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Most fo the time

warm flume
mint coral
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That's why we don't anvil

void vigil
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it's not too hard, 20 minutes right
when i played with tight deadline on i got really used to clearing in 20 mins or a bit under

warm flume
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I do

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I love daedalus hammer upgrades so i always do

void vigil
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and first level is basically unnoticable in my experience

warm flume
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Idk why i thought it only gives u time 3 times

mint coral
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Anvil is only worth if your hammers can't get worse

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Or you know rng manips and are willing to do that

warm flume
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Shouodve known since i have 18 minutes left rn

mint coral
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A lot of stuff change the rng in the game so if you wanna spend time pressing cast a bunch until anvil gives you a busted set of hammers you can do that

warm flume
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Is sticky bot gonna say that after everything

mint coral
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Yeah

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It tries to keep the message at the bottom

warm flume
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18 minutes

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Not my best

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Well with adamant rail it is my best but not over all

hoary pebble
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Is the aspect of Lucifer good at all

lethal dock
hoary pebble
lethal dock
hoary pebble
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Ya

mint coral
hoary pebble
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Ooh

mint coral
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Stills falls short of eris/hestia but is nice

wary bay
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Yo guys

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I'm gonna get this game by tomorrow

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Sooo I'm nevervous cuz Aphrodite portrait

hoary pebble
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Hestia is so fun

wary bay
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Cuz my dad wants to see the gameplay

hoary pebble
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Aphrodite is uhh

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Something

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Yep

wary bay
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Yk what

hoary pebble
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What

wary bay
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I'll send him a gameplay for hades boss fight

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So he doesn't want to see

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My gameplay

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Good plan?

hoary pebble
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That might work

wary bay
hoary pebble
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Both

wary bay
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But first

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I'll have to check that if there is no Aphrodite boon

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If no big w

warm flume
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Eggfruit

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Idle apocalypse pfp? shadeohboy shadeohboy

hoary pebble
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It’s always so exciting when someone recognizes it

twilit lodge
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I enjoyed that game but it got to be too much

rustic basin
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Hello lads

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I didn't know

void vigil
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its a bot message to help people navigate to the right channels shadethumbsup there were lots of people talking about hades 2 here, and people may not want spoilers! nothing you did

hoary pebble
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It was a lot of micro management

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Turning off certain floors to build a stockpile of resources

hazy path
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Beowulf feels weird to use but I see why it’s called the best weapon for the shields.

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Just feels horrible to pilot without sudden rush

mint coral
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Just wait until you get charged shot instead

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Also point blank your rushes instead

hazy path
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I saw some clips with charged shot. Looks safer. I’ll look for it on my next run

fervent radish
runic jungle
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I can't help but feel like a real gamer when I clear hades with an absolute terrible build.
This is why I prefer low heat bc I feel like I wouldn't be able to accomplish those type of feats with high heat

hazy path
runic jungle
fervent radish
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it depends on the skill of the player

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there's a player who has cleared 64 heat with every special boon on zeus shield, without explosive return, and without static discharge in different runs

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most players would need aphrodite or zeus

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like i could probably clear zeus 50 heat with one boon 90% of the time, but me 4 months ago definitely could not

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so it really depends and there's no hard limit on what can be done, only soft limits/recommendations based on skill

stone rune
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most people could probably get plenty of hestia consistency at 50 pretty easily

fervent radish
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also true

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retrash does purse start a lot lol

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unmodded too

runic jungle
fervent radish
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???

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deflect and weak are like the two best things for heat

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doom is fairly unreliable as a primary source of damage as you need ME

fervent radish
runic jungle
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And as far as doom goes urge to kill is like the only boon I actually like anymore lol.
I get it now

fervent radish
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weak by itself is good for 30% DR, but aphrodite also has the best % scaling in the game

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shooting for duos is very unreliable

fervent radish
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it's like a tickle's worth of scaling

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chill and hangover by themselves are fairly useless as well

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ideally your build starts out with aphro or zeus and then has doom and hangover as accessory damage, with deflect providing safety

fervent radish
lavish sorrel
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+10% additive damage yippee

fervent radish
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i love it when my 30 damage special does 3 extra damage

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really carries the run

stiff obsidian
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true i should stop pomming stuff

lethal dock
twilit lodge
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I love when the only valid pom targets are crush shot and snurst

latent moon
latent moon
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I remember angel clearing some like 62+ run without jolted

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And ofc the examples listed earlier exist too

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But like a better build compensates for less mechanical skill

twilit lodge
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🦾

lethal dock
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banana is a robot

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bananabot

hoary pebble
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What’s yalls favorite character

stiff obsidian
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in this game?

hoary pebble
fervent radish
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hypnos

stiff obsidian
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zagreus

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because i can play as him

old bluff
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Is Beo an allowed character?

stiff obsidian
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if u mean actual character wise

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probably theseus

gray shuttle
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Nyx

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Because she's best girl

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She's not a stepmother. She's the mother who stepped up.

rustic vale
mint coral
void vigil
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Basic answer I guess, but meg

hoary pebble
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The rock guy

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Sysufus I can’t spell his name

rustic vale
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Sisyphus

hoary pebble
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Yes lmao

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He’s cool

stiff obsidian
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hes such an npc

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have trouble considering him as a character

hoary pebble
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He’s a normal guy

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He’s chill and I respect it

stiff obsidian
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so forgettable

hoary pebble
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I guess

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But he’s just chilling

void atlas
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Patroclus šŸ’™

twilit lodge
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Patty glow up artwork is one of my favorite portraits in the game

wary bay
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@twilit lodge

twilit lodge
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That’s my name

wary bay
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My dad did not saw Aphroditezaggrin

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But her boon skills are op

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For some reason

twilit lodge
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She has strong boons indeed

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Typically she has the highest percent based boons for attack and special

wary bay
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But meg is very difficult

twilit lodge
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Meg is rough early on yes

jagged hamlet
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Then she mellows out with age

twilit lodge
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There’s a lot to learn and you haven’t got a strong mirror helping you yet

twilit lodge
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That’s the way to go about it

wary bay
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But I feel alot stressed for beating her in alot of attempts

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But I found this funni looking gatlen thing

twilit lodge
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Early on she’s definitely easiest with ranged weapons

twilit lodge
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Bow and railgun yes

void vigil
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bow my beloved

twilit lodge
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I assumed you meant the rail when you said Gatling looking thing

rustic vale
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Mfw when range keeps you safe

wary bay
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Wait

void vigil
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gauntlet = fists i assume

twilit lodge
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Or did you mean gauntlet

wary bay
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The worst weapon is Zagreus weapon right?

rustic vale
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no?

old bluff
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Zag sword is pretty weak

wary bay
rustic vale
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Well what do you mean by ā€œzagreus weaponā€

wary bay
old bluff
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Zag sword

rustic vale
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the zagreus aspect of the sword is like the worst sword aspect yeah

old bluff
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idk about that

twilit lodge
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Every weapon is zagreus aspect at first

wary bay
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But spear felt a little unique

stiff obsidian
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zagsword miles better than pos

twilit lodge
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Poseidon haters pls go

wary bay
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Thor hammer + a spear

rustic vale
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Zzz

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actually yeah

twilit lodge
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You’ve never felt real power until you fling all of your lightning phalanxes into the lava while using Poseidon sword

rustic vale
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Poseidon sword would be worse than zagreus sword because it doesn’t even suceed as a castpect

old bluff
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Are we just forgetting about a certain aspect?

wary bay
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The first?

rustic vale
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arthur also just sucks true true

wary bay
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Autocorrect pls stop

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Is fist good?

twilit lodge
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The first sword aspect is called ā€œaspect of zagreusā€

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Oh

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Fist is usable

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If you know what boons to take

old bluff
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Fist is a fan favorite

stiff obsidian
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andzazazzzzaazxzzxsxsx

wary bay
twilit lodge
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It’s definitely an easier early clear than the sword

old bluff
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Shield

rustic vale
twilit lodge
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Probably not

wary bay
stiff obsidian
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zzˀzazzzzaa\

old bluff
twilit lodge
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Shield is good for early clears too

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But you don’t need to worry about anything being best at this point

wary bay
twilit lodge
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You need darkness for the mirror so just try things and die a lot and get darkness

rustic vale
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Any weapon works bouldy

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Like

wary bay
old bluff
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yes

rustic vale
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Yes

latent moon
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yeah

twilit lodge
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All of the weapons work

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It’s like the game was designed to be played

latent moon
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every weapon have pretty considerable accomplishments

rustic vale
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At your point in the game, the differences between weapons don’t really matter

latent moon
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yes some are better than others, but they are all still very viable

wary bay
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I think boons matter most

old bluff
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Yep

latent moon
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the right boons on the weapon

twilit lodge
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Boons are useless just play boonless

rustic vale
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The boonless runners in question

wary bay
stone rune
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its not that bad

wary bay
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I'll use spear for now on

latent moon
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boonless isn't impossible at all, it's pretty doable

wary bay
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It kinda feels uniuqe

latent moon
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the hard part is avoiding boons lmao

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straight up clearing isn't so bad

twilit lodge
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Just

rustic vale
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to the player

twilit lodge
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Make sure to use dash strikes

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They’re good

wary bay
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So

stiff obsidian
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boonless 64 is possible

twilit lodge
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Other than that just explore and learn

wary bay
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I'll try beat meg

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I think I can practice more

old bluff
twilit lodge
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And give a nectar to everyone you meet (including the Olympian gods)

stone rune
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its really boring and unfun

twilit lodge
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Just one, at first

stone rune
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but its not like hard

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its like if ff was easy

old bluff
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Reg boonless kinda free

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Even 32 is not that hard

stone rune
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even boonless mirrorless isnt particularly difficult up to a certain point

jagged hamlet
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Heck, even I beat 32 on the first try

stiff obsidian
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boonless?

stone rune
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i managed boonless mirrorless 32 when i was still really really terrible at the game

old bluff
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I did 40 boonless and I suck at heat

stiff obsidian
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same

jagged hamlet
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Naaay, False Side. I missed a bit of context

stiff obsidian
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lol

twilit lodge
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I feel like mirrorless 32 might not be as awful as it sounds due to you being able to take ri4

stiff obsidian
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this server is getting boring its just repeating the same conversations over and over again

latent moon
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dad fight took ages

stone rune
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the trick is to not use beo

twilit lodge
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Boonless beo zaggrin

latent moon
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yeah but it's much funnier

fervent radish
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Boonless would be more fun if I could decline boons

latent moon
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the point was to do it with beo bc i did it with slicing flare before i decided to do boonless

fervent radish
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Cba to play a run and then get forced into a boon

stone rune
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i did some mirrorless em4 32 beo thing some time

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because of that frost guy

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who did ff

rustic vale
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wdym

stone rune
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ohhhhh

old bluff
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And their name is Alexca

stone rune
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sorry nitro

stiff obsidian
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what

latent moon
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nitrostarch

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the wr holder for ff lmao

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by a pretty wide margin iirc

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yeah 59 secs lmao

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also the only sub18

stiff obsidian
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yes

wary bay
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I beat meg finally

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Thanks to explosion shot

fervent radish
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fr

lavish sorrel
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I know that's meant as a joke, but Nitro, Vorime, Retr0 and Museus and possibly others have more ff playtime than I do lol

lethal dock
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whats ff playtime? for real time?

void vigil
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fresh file

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Like, winning on the very first run of the save

lethal dock
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hades has the most random 2 letter abbreviations and somehow everybody knows them and nobody confuses them

void vigil
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Well this isn’t even the game, just a challenge community abbreviation

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But it does have a lot of them LOL I confuse them sometimes

tepid light
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i still frequently get confused

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esp. with the pact modifiers

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hence why i spell them out instead of just saying 'bp' or whatever

mint coral
tepid light
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yeah but not everyone knows to check there

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i'd rather just cut out the middleman and prevent confusion in the first place

mint coral
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I feel like that for h2 lmfao

rustic vale
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there are like a few cases of overlap but given context you can usually tell

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If you’re talking about the mirror, ff definitely means family favourites, not fresh file

stiff obsidian
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there are much more abbreviation heavy games out there

rustic vale
stiff obsidian
rustic vale
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It’s a statement on the quality of btd6 zaggrin

lavish sorrel
rustic vale
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Did you see the emoji Alexca used in the prior message

twilit lodge
sleek cliff
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all i remember them by is the abbreviations

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😭😭😭

sleek cliff
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like how u dont have to ever abbreviate that buff that gives u 100 gold

rustic vale
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bc

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we genuinely do have conversations about it due to people running priv status

sleek cliff
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instead of switch on ff

rustic vale
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Yeah but I can’t be bothered to say ā€œno, family favourites is better than pstatusā€

twilit lodge
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Just say ā€œcheck your privilegeā€

rustic vale
latent moon
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but generally speaking yeah it's generally the first run

rustic vale
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hmm

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I wonder how fast it would be to die, unlock bow, and use bow for ff tizomg

old bluff
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pretty fast

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Bow ff wr is 20:34

rustic vale
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Sweet

latent moon
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yeah lmao

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it's like 7th on the board or something

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pseudo moment

old bluff
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6th

latent moon
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damn

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i was close

old bluff
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The actual run is faster than nitro's iirc

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The setup is pretty long sadly

latent moon
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yeah i can imagine

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i'd assume starts on run 3 for the hammer?

old bluff
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4 iirc

latent moon
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bc zeus start for bow is not it lmao

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4 for hermes?

old bluff
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ye

latent moon
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fair

old bluff
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And for CV lv1

latent moon
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what's cv lmao

old bluff
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or something idk, ping Alex

old bluff
latent moon
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oh lmao

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based

lavish sorrel
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4 for second hammer actually

old bluff
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ohhhhhhhh

lavish sorrel
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run 3 only has first hammer

stiff obsidian
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time to fresh file again

lavish sorrel
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(though hermes RD helps obviously)

wanton sierra
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Thanks for the tip, lol - I just did the same thing (use the free pass with dad for 32 heat)

old bluff
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Incredible

stiff obsidian
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10th clear 32 heat, based

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i remember i got my friend to do 40 heat on their 10th clear

latent moon
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should've made them do 50 tbh

stiff obsidian
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yeah

old bluff
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New 60 strat just dropped

stiff obsidian
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ri4 60 sounds harder

latent moon
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ri4 ap2 lmao

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the eris unmodded wr is 61 bc of ap1

stiff obsidian
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how are you supposed to get ME in ff

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its been like 5 hours

lavish sorrel
stiff obsidian
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its just rng

lavish sorrel
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also you can make athena run out of boons to give which is a very funny way of obtaining ME

stiff obsidian
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first time getting past heroes in a while yay

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alex will bless this run

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will die tho trollFace

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just making savestate

stiff obsidian
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the em4 savestate is fun

rustic vale
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There are 5?

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what the

rustic vale
old bluff
latent moon
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oh so there are lmao

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aren't 2 of them like the same/similar

old bluff
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The only cosmetic difference between the two yellow ones are the spikes on one

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But they are very different enemies

hoary pebble
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Honestly the worst boss in this game is probably

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The tiny rat

stone rune
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how

hoary pebble
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It’s annoying

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Also poison is involved

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And poison sucks

twilit lodge
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Tony is alright

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At least the fight is guaranteed to be over once he dies unlike the other minis

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Or is Tony the giant rat

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I never remember

hoary pebble
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The giant rat is fine

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I’m talking about tiny vermin

twilit lodge
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Tiny vermin has a bigger arena so the poison isn’t as bad, in my experience

hoary pebble
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I hear that

stiff obsidian
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the poison hardly does any damage

hoary pebble
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I feel like the tiny vermin is unpredictable

stiff obsidian
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usually you just kill him

sleek cliff
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tony is kinda too fast

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isnt the meg hard to hit

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loses time

stiff obsidian
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not if u know how to

cyan bane
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It ticks really fast

latent moon
stiff obsidian
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it really is negligible

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people just see fast numbers and panic

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and then it actually ends up doing a lot of dmg because they try to cure instead of just killing them in like 5 seconds

twilit lodge
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Well, or they can’t kill fast

cyan bane
twilit lodge
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Because bad build/mechanical skill

stiff obsidian
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still isnt the poisons fault

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poison is completely fine

old bluff
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I agree, Poison is quite balanced

cyan bane
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I need Hades

jagged hamlet
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Don't we all, Cologne? Don't we all...

old bluff
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What I need is a sub 5

cyan bane
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Lol

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I only played it on my sister's switch

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Waiting for it to go on sale again

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It was around June-july though

real meadow
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if I have a level 1 grey boon and I upgrade its rarity, does it upgrade it to the next raritys damage?

cyan bane
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But I couldn't buy it at that time

hazy path
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Does god keepsakes activate per stage or it’s just for Tartarus?

latent moon
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they only work once per biome

stiff obsidian
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no

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until you pick up a boon

jagged hamlet
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Not even once per biome: once per run

stiff obsidian
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from that god

latent moon
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well yeah

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but also generally speaking they will pick up that boon

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the only time you won't is bc you missed it in asphodel lmao

hazy path
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what’s biome

latent moon
#

area

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like tartarus, asphodel, elysium, etc

stiff obsidian
hazy path
#

ooh that’s what they call it? I kept saying stages šŸ˜‚ my bad

latent moon
#

aspho's hella short

twilit lodge
#

Missing my keepsake god in asphodel is a constant source of anxiety

stiff obsidian
#

but still have to be factually correct ā˜ļø šŸ¤“

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i havent taken a god keepsake into tart in like half a year

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*aspho

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and ive only played like 1 year so thats a lot

twilit lodge
hazy path
#

So that means it works once per run

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unless you switch the keepsake?

twilit lodge
#

Well, no keepsakes work after you switch them so that’s not exactly unique to those

latent moon
twilit lodge
#

When you equip a god keepsake you can see a number next to it

stiff obsidian
#

dont tell me tell them

twilit lodge
#

That 1 goes away after you claim that god’s boon inside a chamber

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(If you claim a boon from them from shop it doesn’t go away which is sort of neat but doesn’t come up all that often)

hazy path
twilit lodge
#

God’s legacy, chaos favor boons

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Eury nectar

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Making sure you don’t open duos you’re not going after helps too

hazy path
#

Ah I see! Ty

shut umbra
#

what is the best bow build?

sleek cliff
#

what do u take then

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tooth?

stiff obsidian
#

yes

stiff obsidian
#

i dont think u take 2nd god at 50 heat and above

sleek cliff
#

ig with tooth dd glitch

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then u prob do still

stiff obsidian
#

tooth dd is only with ri4 / dds on

sleek cliff
#

what

#

does it not work with sd

stiff obsidian
#

you cant get it with sd

sleek cliff
#

L

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bad game

#

oh right

#

im stupid

stiff obsidian
#

yes

#

you are

sleek cliff
#

cuz

#

yeah

stiff obsidian
#

yeah

sleek cliff
#

false side

#

should i come back to hades

#

without finishing hades 2

stiff obsidian
#

hades 2 hasnt finished itself

sleek cliff
stiff obsidian
#

not much to finish there even after maxing everything i feel incomplete

sleek cliff
#

||i still have to clear surface||

#

i still havent done 8 fear

stiff obsidian
#

spoilers

sleek cliff
#

😭

stiff obsidian
#

damn

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i did 45 on a few weaps and 48 on a few but bricked to 50 idk

sleek cliff
#

its cuz every single attempt i go with fo2 + something i forgot

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and fo2 is cooking my ass

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but im too lazy to switch off

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and also im taking suboptimal boons to finish fated list

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but also i suck

twilit lodge
#

Not tree being bad

#

2 years later still

stiff obsidian
sleek cliff
#

or maybe i am

sleek cliff
#

in my defense the game is wack

stiff obsidian
#

yes

#

hate that game

#

šŸ‘Ž

sleek cliff
#

btd6 >

stiff obsidian
#

hate that game

#

šŸ‘Ž

sleek cliff
#

stop being a sweat

#

casual btd6 is fun

stiff obsidian
#

what even is casual btd6

sleek cliff
#

like rlr grinding

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and planning out runs

stiff obsidian
#

you want me to play rake miltary monkeys only?

sleek cliff
#

do otc chimps coop or somethkng

#

something fun

stiff obsidian
#

everything feels too easy

sleek cliff
#

and then just place 32 000 engi monkeys in the shape of a phallus for no reason other than funnies

stiff obsidian
#

like knowing the meta feels like every map and mode is solved

stiff obsidian
#

i did

sleek cliff
#

come back after half a year

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or a year

#

when u dont know meta

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and then dont learn the meta

#

thats what i did

#

im struggling to bb peninsula chimps now

stiff obsidian
#

i hate not knowing the meta

sleek cliff
#

not knowing meta is fun

stiff obsidian
#

some sort of hidden fear of doing things suboptimally

void vigil
sleek cliff
#

bit its W

sleek cliff
void vigil
solar wind
twilit lodge
#

Vibeo gane

stiff obsidian
#

but ad is right i should stop

jagged hamlet
#

AD's always right

void vigil
#

except for when im wrong, which means im right about being wrong

stiff obsidian
#

brain just melted

latent moon
#

hey ad can you explain pseudo tech in 10 words or less

fervent radish
#

Hey ad how do I beat 64 heat

void vigil
#

i cannot

latent moon
#

damn

void vigil
#

you cannot

fervent radish
#

Thumbnail acquired

latent moon
#

lmfao

void vigil
#

now go forth and prove me wrong 🤲

void vigil
fervent radish
#

Yeye ik bouldy

latent moon
#

ad cameo in the thumbnail

#

you should also get playad on the thumbnail somehow

stiff obsidian
#

adplayad šŸ¤”

fervent radish
#

I like my clean thumbnails so it'll probably be something I show at the beginning

old bluff
#

Hey AD, can I get sub 5?

tepid light
jagged hamlet
#

AD = Asian Dude shadeohboy

void vigil
#

if you Believeā„¢ļø you can do Anythingā„¢ļø

sleek cliff
old bluff
#

Just got to manifest hard enough

fervent radish
#

Literally just do it

#

I wonder if we could route out a sub 5 64

#

Like with all of the skips

latent moon
#

you dont have enough hp for the chaos gates lmao

fervent radish
#

It would probably be a dio beo just because of damage

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Oh you’re right lmao

latent moon
#

egg strats!!!

stiff obsidian
#

you do if you hitless

fervent radish
#

No you just have to route in like 2 epic chaos health bonuses

#

Wait egg might actually slap

latent moon
#

also not enough gold to buy ixions

old bluff
stiff obsidian
#

pretty sure damageless 64 is possible in regular modded

fervent radish
latent moon
#

also dio beo wont work

fervent radish
#

Tart is fine

latent moon
#

ri3 dc2

#

you'd have to do eris

fervent radish
#

True

latent moon
#

or rama

fervent radish
#

Ok that’s fine

#

Rama could actually do it ngl

latent moon
#

lernie skip on 64 would be funny

fervent radish
#

Could phase skip

#

Yeah

latent moon
#

ngl the biggest issue i see is wells and money

fervent radish
#

Let’s ask speedcord about this abomination

latent moon
#

sub5 is a lot but i can def see like

#

sub6/7

#

which granted would still be insane

fervent radish
#

Yeah

fervent radish
#

And then maybe a coin erebus with like louts

stiff obsidian
#

combat wise it wont even be that hard

fervent radish
#

Just get really rich in tart and then coast

stiff obsidian
#

which is funny

fervent radish
#

Yeah

stiff obsidian
#

since everything will just die

latent moon
#

no starting gold would slow it down but i can see that

stiff obsidian
#

start purse

#

ofc

fervent radish
#

Tart needs chaos I think

latent moon
#

then you just die to chaos gates

#

or just go hitless lmao

fervent radish
#

I mean I wonder what the fastest possible tart is

stiff obsidian
#

hitless tart isnt that possible

#

*hard

fervent radish
#

Current route is pretty banger

latent moon
#

i mean idk i dont play eris

old bluff
#

Dio Beo is like 47 iirc

latent moon
#

but also like typically in routes, you're entering like 10 gates total

old bluff
#

Eris route got screwed by slow furies fight

latent moon
#

and that's like 200 hp total

#

purse -> egg maybe

fervent radish
#

I think egg start is a requirement

old bluff
#

Egg start

latent moon
#

yeah that's what i figured

fervent radish
#

Maybe c2 coin louts?

latent moon
#

no df makes the route harder

fervent radish
#

True

#

But I mean ichors are cheap

#

And all you need is lightning strike and jolted

#

And Hermes

old bluff
#

18 gold

latent moon
#

the issue is buying ixions

old bluff
#

Clockets

fervent radish
#

That’s fine

#

Hammers are easy

latent moon
#

without cf each ixion is like 56?

old bluff
#

55

#

I think 97 with

latent moon
#

wiki says 40 lmfao

#

fantastic

#

yeah 55 -> 97 sounds right

old bluff
#

99 mb

latent moon
#

close enough

fervent radish
#

Should be 99 yeah

old bluff
#

How does the wiki say 40 wtf

#

Bag gonna be kinda a issue due to only having two gold rewards

#

You have to wait for a refresh

lavish sorrel
mint coral
#

This is random but i'm surprised how common the "1 sack is possible, I've gotten it personally" is

rustic basin
#

Ik y'all don't know me but I just broke my pr

stiff obsidian
#

nice

tepid light
#

congrats!

hoary pebble
jagged hamlet
old bluff
#

wdym, I got a zero sack and 3 poms before my first boon and 4 hammers in tart

lavish sorrel
hazy path
old bluff
#

Most people don't do all tunnels

hazy path
#

Ah that’s true

old bluff
#

If you do, then yes, getting the sack in the 5th tunnel would be best

twilit lodge
#

Mods, subject him to eternal 5sacks

stiff obsidian
sleek cliff
twilit lodge
#

Fortunately 5sack is rare even on console

#

It happens

#

And it’s terrible when it does

#

But the large majority of runs are 2 or 3 sack

#

4 is rare and 5 is very rare

sullen spire
#

Hades.

old bluff
#

Hadeez

opaque jungle
#

someone help me

stiff obsidian
#

keep playing

opaque jungle
stiff obsidian
#

||hades||

opaque jungle
#

omg

#

thank you very much

stiff obsidian
#

haha

#

np

jagged hamlet
#

False Side is psychic shadeohboy

stiff obsidian
#

i liked the one where im a psychic better

wet kindle
#

Is there like a hades fanart section or nah?

tepid light
stone rune
#

if i get one more heart

#

i hvae not seen a pom in 4 resets

hazy path
#

Plume clock is not forgiving in Thesus boss.

stone rune
#

they should ban hearts

#

i never awnt to receive a heart again

stone rune
hazy path
stone rune
#

well heroes are the shortest boss

hazy path
#

Ah I see. I think I spread misinformation there. I’m not familiar with how they time the plume runs.

stone rune
#

no like

#

heroes are the boss that takes the least time

hazy path
#

Oh thesus?

stone rune
#

like even with a bad build its like

#

fury is 15 sec

hazy path
#

Must be a skill issue on my end. I take too much time with Asterius.

stone rune
#

lernie is like 35 max

#

heroes are like 10

#

and dad is like 40

hazy path
#

I thought dad was because of 2nd stage

stone rune
#

?

hazy path
#

Oh you meant in a speedrun sense

#

I’m pretty sure I’m the worst backstab player by a mile so that also contributes to why I can’t beat it in time. But the good news is I can beat it consistently now

#

My best run I was off by like 8 seconds I think

twilit lodge
#

Fishing for backstabs with most aspects is not worth the time

lavish sorrel
#

Heroes get their phases close to 1-tapped with an above-average anyheat beowulf run, yeah

#

Same as furies actually, except furies have more phases so they take longer to beat

twilit lodge
#

Mfw Hydra has the second fewest bubbles but takes the longest

old bluff
#

Hydra doesn’t take the longest at top end

twilit lodge
#

I guess that’s dad?

old bluff
#

Super top end Dad is around 22.5-23.0, while super top end Lernie is 20-21

hazy path
#

Thesus* I never spell that name right. I probably did the same on this post

twilit lodge
#

The best way to beat him is to murder him while his shield is down because he’s calling

lavish sorrel
old bluff
#

Cshot 😌

#

Best hammer in the game

hazy path
lavish sorrel
#

Rail special, dionysus cast, artemis cast, the shield's charged shot, the rail's piercing fire, and any companion other than thanatos' and dusa's

old bluff
#

There is a very consistent setup for this

hazy path
twilit lodge
#

Or you can meg at the start

#

you have to move upwards a bit before using her and then she will hit both

hazy path
twilit lodge
#

Watch some YouTube and you can see how people do it

#

If my directions aren’t working or not making sense

hazy path
#

Ah yeah I’ll be sure to do that

old bluff
#

Just press up on the dpad/ arrow keys and Meg

twilit lodge
#

Meg is the best companion in general, people have figured out how to hit all the witches with her, all four of the inferno bombers too

#

Witches needs you to have an aimable cast

old bluff
#

You can meg every mini boss in the game! Speed runners are awesome

hazy path
#

That’s awesome. I maxed her out yesterday (companion)

twilit lodge
#

My favorite miniboss melt with companion is antos vs sneak

#

Hate that guy

old bluff
#

Zero cycle Sneak and Power Couple are also things

fervent radish
#

2 bombers yeah

hoary pebble
#

Is distant memory good with the rail?

#

I guess the better question would be, is it good at all?

twilit lodge
#

Nope

hoary pebble
#

Shame

twilit lodge
#

It is indeed a shame that so many of the trinkets are just dog

jagged hamlet
#

Distant Memory requires sooooo much distance to the enemy

hoary pebble
#

A lot of them are bad

#

It seems like the cosmic egg is pretty good though

fervent radish
#

meh, not really

#

maybe for hitless

hoary pebble
#

Because it doesn’t have the effect of the other gods keepsakes?

fervent radish
#

p much

hoary pebble
#

Ah

fervent radish
#

forcing chaos gates would atleast bring it up for consideration

hoary pebble
#

Is the myrmidon bracer decent?

mint coral
#

It exists

#

I think one high heat run has a win with it tho?

#

Or I'm thinking the speedrun that has nyx's keepsake

hoary pebble
#

It looks like the black shawls effect is too insignificant to be effective to me

#

20% isn’t a lot

mint coral
#

Namely acorn

hoary pebble
#

Acorn is arguably the best keepsake right?

stiff obsidian
fervent radish
#

it's good defensively and it's value increases mostly in ely and styx

hoary pebble
#

Sorry for asking so many questions

#

One more

#

Is broken spear point good?

stiff obsidian
#

this server would be dead without questions

#

keep asking questions

hoary pebble
#

Ok lol

#

Sure

fervent radish
#

holy shield from athena basically replaces it for most situations so you'd usually rather have acorn

twilit lodge
#

I use chaos egg if the shop after lernie has an ixion

#

That’s

#

About it

fervent radish
#

idk still dubious

#

but fair enough

twilit lodge
#

Definitely dubious

hoary pebble
#

What’s the first companion I should go for?

twilit lodge
#

But this way it’ll get levelled up eventually

#

Meh

#

Meg for sure

hoary pebble
#

Ok

#

Thanks everyone

fervent radish
#

fs

twilit lodge
#

Hers is the best all around companion

#

Quick and easy to use for the most part

hoary pebble
#

I have to say, you’ve all been very kind

#

So thank you all

stiff obsidian
#

meg and bouldy are the only companions you will ever need

fervent radish
#

so thank you

hoary pebble
#

šŸ‘

twilit lodge
#

Without new people here we just talk about the same things over and over

hoary pebble
#

I’ll keep talking then lol

old bluff
#

More Questions!

hoary pebble
#

I have to think of some lol

fervent radish
#

Mostly solved game moment

mint coral
#

Starting a casino for the next topic someone is gonna ask for help

old bluff
#

My bet is on Heroes

twilit lodge
stiff obsidian
#

its been so long since a new player was interested in high heat

fervent radish
#

i swear its the same 5 people every time

stiff obsidian
#

i dont even remember who the last person was

fervent radish
#

profile kinda concerning...

stiff obsidian
#

no its fair enough thats how everyone feels

#

right

fervent radish
#

but yeah that's probably the most recent person

old bluff
#

Nope

fervent radish
#

not strongly enough to broadcast it lol

stiff obsidian
fervent radish
#

no clue

stiff obsidian
#

then i wouldtn consider them

fervent radish
#

fair enough

stone ermine
#

wanna ask, do u need to continuously pay netflix to play the mobile port

#

or can u actl just pay once download the game n it's over

fervent radish
#

this was not on the bingo card

stiff obsidian
#

lmao

stone ermine
#

then hell nah

fervent radish
#

real

stiff obsidian
#

you have to stay subscribed

fervent radish
#

it's way better on PC

#

kbm supremacy

old bluff
#

Hell, even on anything

stiff obsidian
#

actually

stone ermine
#

it's so tragic that it's reduced to a bonus for a sub

old bluff
stone ermine
#

what did they do to my goated boi

hoary pebble
#

I bought the hidden fists aspect

old bluff
#

I'm sorry

hoary pebble
#

Looks pretty strong

stiff obsidian
#

have a netflix sub bc u actually use netflix, then use iphone mirroring to play hades mobile on ur mac with kbm

twilit lodge
#

I use Netflix for free btd6

#

I don’t know that I want to actually play hades on mi fone

fervent radish
old bluff
#

Nalei has entered the chat (they actually do this iirc)

twilit lodge
#

Imagine touch screen hades

stone ermine
#

wait how's btd6

fervent radish
#

but yeah i would love 360 movement, but I'm too attached to mouse to go full controller

stone ermine
#

is it still fun offline

stiff obsidian
#

id use btd6 netflix except i already have it on steam and playstore trollFace

twilit lodge
fervent radish
#

could say the same about this game

twilit lodge
#

And ur friend is a meta spammer and they spout 10000 acronyms at you

#

True

old bluff
fervent radish
#

jazz's response is actually the shortest i can think of

#

"beo bestspect, poseidon and artemis, buy cast stuff from the well, nothing else exists"

twilit lodge
#

All the tower abbreviations are wild

#

Since there’s masteries or whatever

stiff obsidian
#

what

#

what masteries

old bluff
stiff obsidian
#

wow eris = stinky is evil

fervent radish
#

oh ig yeah

old bluff
twilit lodge
#

I saw that

fervent radish
#

shouldn't say that about people nvm

twilit lodge
#

(I didn’t see that actually)

old bluff
stiff obsidian
#

did you start heat in this server @fervent radish

fervent radish
#

hm

stiff obsidian
#

wat

fervent radish
#

the leereamsnyder guide inspired me to go for 32 all aspects