#h1-tech-support message this is wild tho
#h1-discussion
mint coral
My eyes
twilit lodge
https://discord.com/channels/456889434672201729/520430049003044864/1285055428161...
Seems normal
Why is the game giving me a Hermes Erebus gate at the start of asphodel
On arthur
stiff obsidian
why bother with erebus gates past tart
mint coral
why bother with erebus gates past tart
Funny
stiff obsidian
:agrro
stiff obsidian
saw what
stiff obsidian
mint coral
Erebus is so ruthless outside of early tart
twilit lodge
Yep
Flame wheels in asphodel Erebus
My beloved
I hit all 4 witches with meg
We’re so back
jagged hamlet
Erebus post-Tartarus feels like SGG saying "Let them eat cake!"
twilit lodge
Onion flavored cake
gilded geyser
waow nemesis aspect is so good :o
i haven't played since february and definitely am wayyy worse at avoiding getting hit than before but its damage is so good i was able to beat 26 heat first try which is higher than i've done on the sword lol
green dune
Started a new save file, got to hades on my 3rd and 7th attempt and killed him on my 9th. Killed him again on the 10th attempt too. No god mode. Feels fun.
lavish sorrel
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1088591737309638746/1285443327369412638/t...
I think OP hasn't understood this meme format 
stiff obsidian
😭 yeah
dreamy lagoon
is today the day Hades 1 officially released 4 years ago?
languid marlin
you need to interact with it a ton between runs, i think the number is 210, plus dialogue from orpheus
topaz cobalt
how does heat work with bounties? is there a set of bounties per heat level and the heat gauge only matters for unlocking more heat levels?
mostly wondering if I should finish an escape (get the styx bounty, i already have the 3 others) with every weapon before going to heat 1 on each weapon. do I lose out on the Styx bounty for heat 0 if I move on to heat 1 to get all 4 bounties (instead of just 1 for the run)
stone rune
heat 0 works a little differently
its like
whenever you have heat on
if you do a run with heat at or above the level of the bounty itll complete the bounty
but heat 0 is separate and you cant do it with heat on
topaz cobalt
ok so there's 2 current bounty "sets" available at any given time? the heat 0 bounty set and the current heat level bounty set?
topaz cobalt
but the bounty set for heat 0 would be a bunch of darkness
stone rune
no
if ur getting darkness ur not doing bounties
bounties give you the larger meta rewards
topaz cobalt
i think you're confused on the terms i'm using
stone rune
diamond, blood, ambrosia
topaz cobalt
i'm using "bounty set" to mean "whatever items are available from bosses in the current run"
stone rune
we would usually call those rewards
bounties are specifically for doing new heat levels
topaz cobalt
what do you call the thing you get at the end of every room then?
stone rune
room reward
topaz cobalt
ok
so there are 2 sets of rewards available at any given time: the heat 0 and the current heat level
stone rune
well
after you complete 0 heat
itll give the same stuff as if you did a different level of heat that's below the bounty
darkness
fervent radish
If you repeat a heat levels rewards, you get darkness. If you do a new heat levels rewards, you get bounties
topaz cobalt
so if i've never cleared with the shield but i go for heat 1 and clear it, heat 0 and heat 1 will both give the "heat 0" styx reward? (on the next run)
topaz cobalt
ok got it, so i can do heat 1 now and clear heat 0 later and get the reward if i want it
thanks!
merry salmon
so if i've never cleared with the shield but i go for heat 1 and clear it, heat ...
Yes
stiff obsidian
anunncment
latent moon
does splitting bolt have more odds than call technically bc of the 10/12% initial roll lmao
twilit lodge
Iunno
Addled shot was a mistake 
Fountain room showed up and now i think im carrying it into heroes
At least Patty is filling up my DDs
Oh good I have one chamber before heroes
gray shuttle
Nyx is not a stepmother. She is the mother who stepped up!
jagged hamlet
Erebus was a mistake LOL
jagged hamlet
Literally more shields than Aspect of Chaos 
lethal dock
<@1255955289346281493> ay i did it
yoo cool
radiance next???
also what charm build
lavish sorrel
On average, the rail.
The two best aspects for speed or heat respectively are both on shield though.
hoary pebble
On average, the rail.
The two best aspects for speed or heat respectively are bo...
I’ve been using the aspect of Hera , but I see people using hera too
They probably combo hera with that mirror talent
I forgot its name
Boiling blood
Boiling blood is probably very good with hera
stiff obsidian
I’ve been using the aspect of Hera , but I see people using hera too
everything is viable
hoary pebble
everything is viable
I hear, thanks!
lethal dock
@stiff obsidian i want to know when u beat em radiance
cuz thats cool stuff
also whats the zote score lol
hoary pebble
I was doing extreme measures hades
And I did not expect him to ||get up again||
Then I died
Back on the grind
hoary pebble
if the heat is only em then maybe you can try death defience
I did
I still lost
I’m bad at the game but I’m having fun
And That’s all that matters
lethal dock
thats fair u dont need to do like 30 heat or something to get some badges
tbh i rarely play the game i enjoy the community here lol
hoary pebble
I got the second Skelly statue recently
hoary pebble
tbh i rarely play the game i enjoy the community here lol
Yeah yall seem cool
stiff obsidian
also whats the zote score lol
idk i just beat the target and quit
lethal dock
idk i just beat the target and quit
bruh
is there a discord role function where you ping the people who own both of the said roles like @a @b but only people who has a and b
-# also theres this cool texts now lol
stiff obsidian
lets ping moderators and supergiant together to find out
hoary pebble
This server has a lot of members
I just noticed that
I don’t think I’ve ever seen such a large server
fervent radish
Boiling blood is probably very good with hera
It’s fine
Most of the damage comes from crush shot anyways
lethal dock
This server has a lot of members
its next to none
hoary pebble
Oops
lethal dock
some roblox game servers has thousand more and theyre probably all underage lol
hoary pebble
100k holy moly
stone rune
a lot of official game servers have a lot of people
lethal dock
my favorite is the sword cuz like its simple
hoary pebble
The sword is fun too
languid marlin
big fan of aspect of rama
hoary pebble
I haven’t unlocked all the hidden aspects yet
hoary pebble
big fan of aspect of rama
What does that do?
I’ll look it up
I won’t waste your time
languid marlin
i got a really funny build with it the other night which just turned my game into "hold x simulator"
hoary pebble
The internet is here for a reason lol
stone rune
i like beo
lethal dock
@/edward772454 will say beo and give a million reasons for why he like sbeo
stone rune
it sucks that they forgot to add any other aspects to the game though
lethal dock
it sucks that they forgot to add any other aspects to the game though
this is the most speedrunner thing said in hades ever
stone rune
not much else to do in this game
hoary pebble
Is the aspect of Arthur good at all
lethal dock
not much else to do in this game
theres not much to do in the game when you finish the story other than speedrunning so yes and no?
hoary pebble
It’s so slow
lethal dock
arthur is bad but its a cool fun aspect
lethal dock
did you pair it with achilles trinket thingy
stone rune
don't use the achilles keepsake ever
lethal dock
thats some fun gameplay with cursed slash
hoary pebble
200 damage doesn’t mean much when it moves so slow huh
stone rune
fervent radish
I enjoy running Arthur because you can literally pause buffer during your hour long animations
Kinda funny
lethal dock
i can see why its so slow becayse of the whole personality of arthur the legend but community hates it so much for some reason
stone rune
i can see why its so slow becayse of the whole personality of arthur the legend ...
because its really terrible
fervent radish
Nah
lethal dock
u bein unfair to arthur
fervent radish
Rarity only really matters for doom and common tdash before first Pom
hoary pebble
I run pom blossom a lot
stone rune
pom blossom is bad
hoary pebble
It’s fun though
lethal dock
I heard that levels on boons don’t really matter, it’s the rarities
levels matter a lot more than rarities but levels stack up and easier to get
stone rune
if u say so
fervent radish
%boons take a few Poms but not much after that
hoary pebble
What’s the best regular keepsake
lethal dock
https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/ijNxBxiYT2BDow7faPIfSBMz9FX5cg2UyQt...
really being unfair to shackles with ap2
stone rune
what
fervent radish
Shackle is rated well there
stone rune
it says shackle for speed and heat
hoary pebble
I use the Dusa keepsake in the temple usually
fervent radish
What’s the best regular keepsake
Poseidon keepsake for tdash start is a good all around keepsake
Can also use flood flare for beo
hoary pebble
Yeah
stone rune
very minute amount of healing
stone rune
acorn is a much better defensive keepsake
hoary pebble
What does that do again
fervent radish
If you have trouble with the poison, stay near the healing pools and try to stunlock enemies before they can poison you
lethal dock
Because the stupid poison sucks
for poison u can get imprevious patroclus thingy
runic bobcat
What does that do again
immune for 5 hits during the boss fight
hoary pebble
Ooh that’s good
fervent radish
Spearpoint for poison is wild
lethal dock
Spearpoint for poison is wild
imprevious spam brrr
fervent radish
Or you could just get holy shield
hoary pebble
Is the aspect of guan yu good
fervent radish
Yeah
lethal dock
n o
runic bobcat
Is the aspect of guan yu good
nuh
fervent radish
Rough learning curve though
runic bobcat
not if you are new
hoary pebble
It feels strong but I have trouble using the spear
lethal dock
Or you could just get holy shield
said no to this
fervent radish
Why
hoary pebble
I also SUCK at using the shield
runic bobcat
It feels strong but I have trouble using the spear
how, what way shape of form?
runic bobcat
I also SUCK at using the shield
charged shot, with aphro
fervent radish
It doesn’t have a cooldown and also doesn’t take up a keepsake spot
stone rune
GY is fine if you're new
runic bobcat
easy win
hoary pebble
how, what way shape of form?
I really can’t explain it tbh
hoary pebble
charged shot, with aphro
I’ll definitely try that
lethal dock
guan yu is stronk for high heat but its probably not the best for speedruns and if ur new it can take some getting used too
stone rune
its ok for speed
hoary pebble
shield is very hammer dependent
I feel like a lot of weapons do
fervent radish
Zagreus and chaos can by played with charged shot attack focus
stone rune
and its good defensively
runic bobcat
I’ll definitely try that
really easy to win with
hoary pebble
Like the rail special attack sucks without the rocket
fervent radish
Beo is a cast weapon, and Zeus has a little more nuance
fervent radish
Like the rail special attack sucks without the rocket
Hazard bomb goes hard wdym
Cluster is also good
runic bobcat
Like the rail special attack sucks without the rocket
triple bomb is my homie
lethal dock
hazard bomb is wild
lethal dock
no its wild
lethal dock
hazard bomb is wild
runic bobcat
Annoying to use
like the dmg is really high with some aspects
stone rune
triple bomb is insanely annoying
runic bobcat
triple bomb is insanely annoying
how?
lethal dock
triple bomb is insanely annoying
no
runic bobcat
just lucifer.
stone rune
it affects the cooldowns in an unintuitive manner
fervent radish
You can’t get it out as fast as clockets
stone rune
when you actually try to have a rotation like a normal person then triple bomb is annoying because you have to change your entire rotation around it
runic bobcat
when you actually try to have a rotation like a normal person then triple bomb i...
but the dmg
lethal dock
i got jumpscared by white haired hat kid when i alt tab bro
hoary pebble
The wave with the sword feels very strong, idk if it is though lol
stone rune
piercing wave?
hoary pebble
Yeah
stone rune
it's solidly the second best sword hammer
lethal dock
The wave with the sword feels very strong, idk if it is though lol
+30 is nice with zag
runic bobcat
The wave with the sword feels very strong, idk if it is though lol
its fine
hoary pebble
I usually go aspect of zag if I go sword
lethal dock
its usseles with arthur
runic bobcat
i dont mind it
lethal dock
and not the best with nemesis
runic bobcat
I usually go aspect of zag if I go sword
NEMESIS
stone rune
no its good with nem
hoary pebble
I usually go aspect of zag if I go sword
I like the fast attacks
lethal dock
fast attak are cool
stone rune
you should not be benefiting
hoary pebble
Lol
stone rune
on sword you should always dash strike
there is no reason to not dash strike on sword
mint coral
and not the best with nemesis
Nothing is the best vs dedge 
hoary pebble
there is no reason to not dash strike on sword
Ya ya
stone rune
nemesis is the best sword aspect
i think i know that by now
hoary pebble
Agreed
lethal dock
Nothing is the best vs dedge <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
piercing wave
hoary pebble
What’s y’all’s favorite god
old bluff
piercing wave
Dedge is way better
fervent radish
it's solidly the second best sword hammer
Third
runic bobcat
What’s y’all’s favorite god
dionysis
fervent radish
Breaching takes second I think
stone rune
no
lethal dock
Dedge is way better
bro i didnt say dedge is bad i said piercing wave isnt that useful for nemesis wdym
stone rune
i would say piercing is second
hoary pebble
I’m a big fan of ares and artimis
stone rune
i take piercing over breaching
hoary pebble
I go with Artemis if I go fists
fervent radish
What reason
stone rune
I go with Artemis if I go fists
where
runic bobcat
I go with Artemis if I go fists
wai?
stone rune
What reason
piercing is affected by ur global and applies also to bosses
so like its free heroes damage
runic bobcat
none of the attacks do big dmg
old bluff
Zap fists is fine
fervent radish
Complicated
hoary pebble
Critical strikes
runic bobcat
Are artimises boons that good?
best girl for a reason
stone rune
well artemis attack on fists is a very poor decision
fervent radish
Only good if you have a bunch of flat damage you’re trying to scale or you have additive already
runic bobcat
that thing is garbage
fervent radish
It’s good wdym
old bluff
Arty is generally good to have on some part of the build, even if you only want like pp
hoary pebble
well artemis attack on fists is a very poor decision
I see, so I should go with something else then
runic bobcat
Only good if you have a bunch of flat damage you’re trying to scale or you have ...
look, me small brain. hestia+artemis= dmg
old bluff
Zeus attack or ME is fists best build
fervent radish
No it’s definitely good
runic bobcat
I see, so I should go with something else then
go with arees and athena dash
fervent radish
Arty just works best on the special
lethal dock
@/edward772454 will say beo and give a million reasons for why he like sbeo
edward
runic bobcat
hope you get merciful end
hoary pebble
I never go with Athena
fervent radish
Or attack if you have atleast 70% other additive
runic bobcat
I never go with Athena
what, why?
lethal dock
athena is cool
hoary pebble
Idk
fervent radish
lethal dock
parry is cool lol
hoary pebble
I’ll try what yall are saying
runic bobcat
is pure dps
runic bobcat
I’ll try what yall are saying
also, do chiron
hoary pebble
Thanks lads
hoary pebble
also, do chiron
Ok
fervent radish
Chiron 🗿
lethal dock
Jazz is a better Beo player than me btw
no
fervent radish
Yes
lethal dock
i shall not accept thus
fervent radish
Ew
stiff obsidian
lethal dock
thats fair
fervent radish
Ait
lethal dock
hera isnt that fun lol
old bluff
Jazz has a 4:42, i have a 5:10
stone rune
i do happen to be pretty good at beo
runic bobcat
hera in my opinion is beo but worse
fervent radish
Hera is so fun
lethal dock
i do happen to be pretty good at beo
are you jazz
stone rune
yes
stiff obsidian
lethal dock
thats cool hat kid kid
twilit lodge
Hera is fun, Chiron is fun
twilit lodge
Common boon W
stone rune
hera is not that fun and chiron is a torture chamber created by satan in the most boiling hot pit of hell
runic bobcat
hera is not that fun and chiron is a torture chamber created by satan in the mos...
Why?
what is wrong with you
chiron is pure fun
stone rune
hera is annoying because it doesnt scale as well as beo
and stone drop time is annoying
twilit lodge
Speedrun beo pilled
lethal dock
hera is not that fun and chiron is a torture chamber created by satan in the mos...
thats daedulus
stone rune
and chiron has 0 damage whatsoever
stone rune
and the slowest animations ever created
twilit lodge
Chiron needs two hammers and a duo to actually do damage
stiff obsidian
damage is alright but the actions just slow asf
stone rune
the damage is not alright
runic bobcat
and the slowest animations ever created
have you not tried the millions of builds
twilit lodge
And it can’t handle heat well
runic bobcat
Chiron needs two hammers and a duo to actually do damage
just dio is enough
stone rune
we are talking the weapon where people tried crush shot for furies
lethal dock
chiron is cool for fun
stone rune
have you not tried the millions of builds
i have played this game for about 2000 hours
lethal dock
i have played this game for about 2000 hours
cool do you play hollow knight
runic bobcat
i have played this game for about 2000 hours
then why hate chiron
stone rune
because its trash
twilit lodge
Playing the game for 2000 hours is why hate chiron
It’s definitely one of the weakest aspects
lethal dock
it was cool but i lost interest
sad i would like to see hollow knight and hades speedrunner
(literally god)
stiff obsidian
how do you lose interest in hk
runic bobcat
i think chiron is the new players best friend
stiff obsidian
not posible
lethal dock
hk is cool
runic bobcat
i only have around 250 hours
stone rune
how do you lose interest in hk
i got bored
runic bobcat
and i still love chiron
lethal dock
did you go to the god fight place
fervent radish
Tidal dash is a new players best friend
stiff obsidian
i think chiron is the new players best friend
worst enemy you mean because its bait
stone rune
i gave up in the bee place
lethal dock
i gave up in the bee place
go to the god fight place
twilit lodge
Tidal dash is everybody’s best friend
runic bobcat
worst enemy you mean because its bait
no, i got y first few clears with chiron
runic bobcat
Tidal dash is everybody’s best friend
too broken
lethal dock
also did u go to the (cool name warning ->) ||abyss||
stone rune
yeah
lethal dock
did u get hehe im dash thru u dash
stone rune
yeah
stone rune
i kinda cheated cause i used the wiki
lethal dock
i kinda cheated cause i used the wiki
noo
stiff obsidian
i spent my first few hk hours grinding geo to buy out the shops
lethal dock
game is ten times more born with wiki
lethal dock
i spent my first few hk hours grinding geo to buy out the shops
i grinded 1800 for lantern in the moss guys room next to hornet boss fight
stone rune
i think the game would be more interesting if u started with dash or wall jump or something
lethal dock
p a i n
lethal dock
i think the game would be more interesting if u started with dash or wall jump o...
nah
fervent radish
no, i got y first few clears with chiron
Chiron feels really bad when you play one of the stronger aspects well and then try to go back
lethal dock
combat is supposed to be simple from start and get a teeny bit more advanced
runic bobcat
Chiron feels really bad when you play one of the stronger aspects well and then ...
like?
stone rune
maybe
runic bobcat
beo?
runic bobcat
Any of the rails
really?
lethal dock
now i feel like playin hollow knight
fervent radish
Yeah
lethal dock
okay later then
fervent radish
Even fists
fervent radish
Arthur>chiron
stiff obsidian
now i feel like playin hollow knight
what do yoiu do
stone rune
any rail
fervent radish
For fun points
stiff obsidian
im assuming you beat the story
stone rune
i think arthur>chiron because it can deal damage at some points
but its so unfun
and the mechanics are terrible
lethal dock
what do yoiu do
i lost my like 110 hour save file and was a little bit uninterested but imma grind back up from start
stone rune
and the dash strike hitbox is off
lethal dock
i have like 2 hour speedruns so its fine
stiff obsidian
nice
runic bobcat
but chiron with ares duo with dio and dio with artemis and duo with aphro is great dmg
stone rune
if an aspect needs 3 duos to deal damage its nto good
lethal dock
didnt beat pantheon of hallownest cuz was too lazy and tips dark side
stone rune
but i also strongly doubt it will deal damage with those boons
stiff egret
if an aspect needs 3 duos to deal damage its nto good
Pure rng build
stone rune
ME is an actual rng build
because if you get the boons you can do damage
but with chiron if you get the boons the damage still sucks
stiff obsidian
eris with like pommed lightning strike will do the same as chiron with all the duos and stuff probably
stone rune
eris also kinda bad but we not ready for that conversation yet
stiff obsidian
ur bad
stone rune
man
you can have clockets and special and rd and not deal damage because ur dash is lacking
and early in the game if everything doesnt go perfect ur damage is kinda poor
stiff obsidian
what heat
stiff obsidian
dam maybe you should check out bananas 32 heat guide in #h1-high-heat-strategies
lethal dock
bananas has a heat guide
lethal dock
where is bananas
stone rune
probably doing something
stiff obsidian
no way thats crazy
lethal dock
beat the elder baldur 120387123 th time and now i feel like playing anotuheer game lol
twilit lodge
This channel (and category) is for discussing the first Hades game. Please go to #hollowknight to talk about Hollow Knight.
languid marlin
where is bananas
🗨️ me at the grocery store
lethal dock
This channel (and category) is for discussing the first Hades game. Please go to...
no
rustic vale
if an aspect needs 3 duos to deal damage its nto good
The beowulf in question (unshakeable mettle, stubborn roots, Curse of Drowning)
stone rune
true
rustic vale
the heat slider is locked at 9
I was fairly certain that was the only heat #, are there more?
twilit lodge
There’s 10 if you hate challenge rooms
stone rune
why would u do that
twilit lodge
Waow this game pays you money?
stone rune
yep
lavish sorrel
why is half of this chat HK convo
lethal dock
why is half of this chat HK convo
hollow knight is cool
lavish sorrel
no offense, love that game to death, but stop it
lethal dock
no
lavish sorrel
rustic vale
why would u do that
RTA
stone rune
rta does not exist
lethal dock
rta does not exist
how fast can you type? were you waiting for someone to say something in chat lol
lethal dock
this one is for bloons
thats fine but i just cant grind up mermonkey
stone rune
i type like 130
rustic vale
Vet has multiple typing wr’s alongside her Hades speedrunning achievmeents
lethal dock
probably yes
rustic vale
can confirm, I was the keyboard
stone rune
good typists r like 200
lethal dock
can confirm, i was the discord
stone rune
i probably have the record for worst mobile typist
lethal dock
mobile typing sucks when on pc
rustic vale
i probably have the record for worst mobile typist
Nuh uh
You have not seen my typing
at least what it looks like on my side of the screen before I go back and fix everything
And I make so many errors just to type at mediocre speeds
lethal dock
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rustic vale
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lethal dock
guys how do i beat em2 hydra with high heat and no divine dash pls help
mint coral
Get divine dash
rustic vale
guys how do i beat em2 hydra with high heat and no divine dash pls help
Turn on fo2
lethal dock
Turn on fo2
i have td3 and ri4 and fo2
rustic vale
i have td3 and ri4 and fo2
Use a better build
lethal dock
Use a better build
no
lethal dock
https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-binding-of-isaac-isaac-rougelikes-rougelike-g...
yes
fervent radish
guys how do i beat em2 hydra with high heat and no divine dash pls help
don't get hit
use hesta
have damage
lethal dock
did you try heat 64? its easy. dont get hit
languid marlin
don't get hit
fervent radish
did you try heat 64? its easy. dont get hit
Yes, and I know
You can take a few hits. But still don’t 🙏
stiff obsidian
no offense, love that game to death, but stop it
you really dont have to minimod
it negatively affected like 0 people
lavish sorrel
you really dont have to minimod
it annoyed me 
brain can only handle one convo at a time, not a constant sine-wave of messages, alternating between one topic and another
twilit lodge
When the knight is hollering
It’s hard to be following
The topic
Bars
Was reading bananas 32 guide earlier
Good stuff
That guy games
fervent radish
he does
lethal dock
is rare crop underrated
fervent radish
No
lethal dock
its free money tho
twilit lodge
No
fervent radish
No
hearty umbra
do upgrades for spear aspect of zagreus enhance the special damage, and general range and speed? or are all the range/damage/speed upgrades exclusive to the special attack?
stickybot being dumb 
stone rune
do upgrades for spear aspect of zagreus enhance the special damage, and general ...
exclusive to special
stone rune
stickybot being dumb <:shadeeyeroll:520448302664122383>
it reposts every few messages
twilit lodge
I guess +3 dashes is about the best possible scenario for being locked into nasty dash
fervent radish
I guess +3 dashes is about the best possible scenario for being locked into nast...
Being able to sell it is ideal
latent moon
What's wrong with 2 damage per stack lmao
It's so good!
Free damage!
Free pstatus!
mint coral
Is nasty dash the one ok peer pressure use
twilit lodge
Living for the blood streak that gets left behind if you dash out of the pool of Styx
Never even knew you could do that until recently
rustic vale
Is nasty dash the one ok peer pressure use
With enough poms, dio aid is the one you want peer pressure for
But yeah I think nasty dash, or like an unused dio core
hazy path
Is Erebus recommend during TD?
latent moon
not particularly lmao
generally speaking erebus isn't ever recommended
erebus is slow as hell bc you have to wait for enemies to spawn in, play extremely safe bc of hitless, and have to wait for the doors to open bc of hades' dialogue
if it's in like tartarus then you can probably make up the time later or you can just die/reset if it doesnt go well and it's a c2 erebus lmao
twilit lodge
Not me checking every time it’s c1 hammer to see if chiron will get relentless so I can try a 32 chiron run to hate myself
Conc, rather
mint coral
Just pick twin/triple if they show up and play bad zag bow
brisk trail
Not me checking every time it’s c1 hammer to see if chiron will get relentless s...
I've done a 32 chiron. You basically need Aphrodite attack, Dionysus special, and their duo. Gods' Legacy is recommended for less rng bs.
And ofc twin/triple shot helps.
twilit lodge
233 hp, Styx premium 1 chamber left, dad time
13:05 on the clock
And a fishing point on the surface so I have to win
rustic vale
I've done a 32 chiron. You basically need Aphrodite attack, Dionysus special, an...
I mean it less about the build and more of chiron just
…sucking
stone rune
i mean its 32 so its still free
stone rune
its just not particularly fun or rapid with chiron
rustic vale
i mean its 32 so its still free
…free depends on the wielder
I mean I’d call 32 chiron free because it’s just bootleg zag bow
but
brisk trail
Chiron was my main bow before rama. That was something.
stone rune
id call 32 chiron free because its 32
jagged hamlet
I've done a 32 chiron. You basically need Aphrodite attack, Dionysus special, an...
Can also run Chiron with Zagbow builds and play style!
brisk trail
Yeah ig
stone rune
its pretty excruciatingly difficult to die with a decent pact
rustic vale
id call 32 chiron free because its 32
Me when good speedrunner is good at game
rustic vale
or wait
are you still washed?
worst Hades player in history? Can’t even sub6 anymore?
(Something that’s so free anybody could do it last I checked in with Jazz)
jagged hamlet
Poor jazz can't get good despite all that practice 
twilit lodge
Muh 50% damage
rustic vale
It’s not a 1.5* multiplier
it’s just +50% additive, nothing run winning or run ending
rustic vale
real gamers know conc relentless epic swift flourish
for max base damage
(Upwards of 4000)
twilit lodge
I wish
Hermes gave me epic haste and swift strike instead
Pools let me trash my purge fodder without much of a fuss either
rustic vale
Oh it may be only like
twilit lodge
I had a lucky run for sure
rustic vale
2800 somsthibg instead
Mis remembered
Still way more base damage than without the swift flourish
I love chaining damage thru multiple volleys
twilit lodge
I know that
I just thought the perk of epic swift flourish was 4 specials chained instead of the 3 without
I phased dad out of the gate with Meg and 3 volleys
mint coral
Nah too slow normally
mint coral
I think rare S.flourish also works at weird angles or something like that
rustic vale
I just thought the perk of epic swift flourish was 4 specials chained instead of...
Common is 4 volleys instead of 3
Epic is the concentrated damage starts chaining
rare is just an awkward middle ground
latent moon
Yeah common gives 4 volleys but you have to spam it all and can't dash lmao
lavish sorrel
RI4 
void vigil
theres a lot of very conditional dialogue, i "only" have about 700 hours but i also encountered some new stuff way in. granted one of them was a dialogue that queued wrong about orpheus just returning to the house... after essentially 100%ing the game
latent moon
with theseus
what dialogue was it
twilit lodge
Guessing EM3 in prior run but not current run dialogue
There’s a weird amount of em3 dialogue to get through
I finally got Poseidon to talk about how I beat em3
And then I got to tell Theseus his fav hates him
stiff obsidian
what dialogue was it
something about coming to him weak
i think u need to be there with little to no hp and no dds
but im always on sd so i never got it ig
latent moon
oh interesting
void vigil
yeah every god also has dialogue when you pick up their boon while low HP
and some duos have two dialogues.... i will never see them all... 
and i havent played h1 since may. i fear it may never happen
twilit lodge
Simply play h1
void vigil
high pike
how to unlock the last heart of olymps god?
tepid light
how to unlock the last heart of olymps god?
which god
tepid light
each god has different things you need to do in order to unlock their final heart
void vigil
ares is basically just killing lots of enemies then talking to him, as far as i remember
high pike
ares is basically just killing lots of enemies then talking to him, as far as i ...
i did it-
and nothing
void vigil
so equip his keepsake to talk to him first, until you get it
high pike
each god has different things you need to do in order to unlock their final hear...
so just time and runs?
tepid light
so just time and runs?
basically
high pike
alright thank you!
stiff obsidian
lethal dock
yes
mint coral
I answered 32 mainly cuz some of the 
lvl pacts
mint coral
being able to do one would lead to the other i feel
Also true lol
Did a sub 10 and super quickly "eh sure let's go for 32"
mint coral
I did both with eris
rustic vale
https://www.reddit.com/r/HadesTheGame/s/7tX5QfupMU
Imo sub10
I mean hmm
If I hadn’t spent so much time pushing heat up before hand and instead used thst onw speed
I’d have gotten speed much earlier
fervent radish
Sub 10 but both are at the same checkpoint in their respective challenges
stone rune
i feel like
at heats below like 32 every single run is sub10 ever
for me
but occasionally i can die at 32
so 32 has a chance of failure that sub10 doesnt
stone rune
well yea im talking from my perspective
latent moon
32 heat is prob easier bc staying alive isn't that hard given you have td off, which most players do lmao
stone rune
i think when i was starting i guess sub10 was harder
because i did 32 first try
but it took a few for sub10
latent moon
The other day someone cleared 32 with hl4 cp2 js3 em4 fo2 or something lmao
So like 32 is probably easier
I'm missing heat in there but I don't remember the paxt
rustic vale
The other day someone cleared 32 with hl4 cp2 js3 em4 fo2 or something lmao
I mean as long as there isn’t td that’s just kite city
fervent radish
You’re also mostly a heat player lol
rustic vale
Idk I think sub 10 you can kinda mash with a good build
sure
I guess
with my singular sub10 I guess
lethal dock
32 makes it harder
wow is your argument that more heat means harder gameplay?
latent moon
You’re also mostly a heat player lol
not really, i've done both heat and speed
i've done considerably more speed than heat
it's just that my most recent things have generally been heat
lethal dock
bananas is wild
stone rune
i think they were talking to shackle
stiff obsidian
32 you can mash and win
latent moon
oh lmao
stiff obsidian
if there was no lava i think you can beat 32 blindfolded
latent moon
sub10 for the average player can't really mash together a good build bc they dont know what a good build is without a guide
stiff obsidian
maybe i should do 40 heat blindfolded, but i can look for reaching doors
latent moon
it's more difficult bc at that point they become reliant on good rng for a "build"
with heat you can put together a horrid pact and still clear bc without td, technically everything becomes clearable if you're willing to play slow as hell
and you're not stressed about going fast
fervent radish
it's just that my most recent things have generally been heat
Fair enough
latent moon
all my 50+ attempts probably total to like less than 20 lmao
fervent radish
wow is your argument that more heat means harder gameplay?
Compared to sub 10
latent moon
maybe less than 30 attempts
im sure i spent way more time getting a sub7 or sub8 and definitely more time getting sub6 lmao
stiff obsidian
this is really hard to evaulate when both goals are equally insignificant to us
latent moon
i mean i've only done 32 and sub10 on certain aspects
hades spear was a pain in the ass for both
sub10 was harder bc rng kinda just sucked (thanks ME)
32 heat you can still clear with a bad build if you have mechanical skill
stiff obsidian
i do know i struggled a lot for rama sub9
but sub32 all aspects was just a waste of my time
i mean 32 heat
not sub32
ooops
latent moon
rama speed hard
fervent radish
this is really hard to evaulate when both goals are equally insignificant to us
Yeah
hoary pebble
Hi chat
Does the pierced butterfly keepsake effect still work when it’s not equipped?
stone rune
no
hoary pebble
That’s a shame
fervent radish
Yeah, makes it and plume basically useless
hoary pebble
I thought I would equip that first on the easy rooms and get free damage
So much for that
fervent radish
You’d rather have control over your build
rustic vale
I thought I would equip that first on the easy rooms and get free damage
Honestly the opportunity cost of not forcing in your gods
Would make it a horrible play
even if the damage stayed
hoary pebble
I hear
twilit lodge
The other day someone cleared 32 with hl4 cp2 js3 em4 fo2 or something lmao
They also had god mode on 👀
hoary pebble
Is there no steam achievement for clearing the temple of Styx with extreme measures?
fervent radish
Is there no steam achievement for clearing the temple of Styx with extreme measu...
no, if you mean beating EM4 dad
devs probably thought it was too difficult to make an achievement for, similar as 32+
hoary pebble
I’m surprised there’s not
Because I just did it and considered there was an achievement for the other areas
I thought there was gonna be one for hades
old bluff
Kinda true, if you know the pact and weapons, both 32 and Em4 are quite free
stiff obsidian
they shouldve made the hardest heat achievement 50 heat
old bluff
They should have made a sub 8 speed achievement
stiff obsidian
nice
stiff obsidian
cursed slash
twilit lodge
Cursed slash is cursed
hoary pebble
what is cursed blade of stygias
Cursed slash
fervent radish
Rip
twilit lodge
Turns out em3 when you have ME but no dash is not fun
stone rune
that’s a lot
latent moon
could be more!
old bluff
I don’t think I even have 1k yet
stiff obsidian
that’s a lot
dont you have more
stiff obsidian
yeah but u estimated 2k earlioer
latent moon
i have less than 550 :)
latent moon
idle gamer
stone rune
trimps reference
void vigil
I have around 700 and I played since The Very Start. Not pro gamer enough
Never climbed heat or did speedruns, but I did get the unseen one rank
stone rune
i stopped playing on the exe around august last year
i wonder if i’ve accumulated enough resources for unseen one
void vigil
Depends on if you reset a lot but the darkness is the biggest resource sink
stone rune
i guess i theoretically could check
however many more resources i have than the max save starts with
weary lotus
Holy heck, Aspect of Beowulf is so good
old bluff
One of us
jagged hamlet
Why does hades pause background downloads on the switch
Maybe to save on processing power
twilit lodge
Well typically they’re only paused when a game is considered to “use network features”
Some games pause them even if you’re playing offline, if there’s an online mode or even a dlc check option
But hades doesn’t even have any network features
mint coral
Cross saves?
twilit lodge
Cross saves?
Oh, that’s true. Silly if that’s why the game is always considered to be using network, lol
stiff obsidian
whenever my cursor click on the menubar when playing hades my cursor gets stuck on the click and i have to restart my laptop
this is the third time im restarting it in hte past 2 hours
twilit lodge
Unfort
weary lotus
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/502817768513470474/1286482647056388166/uM...
It's weird to see a health bar with no death defiances, good stuff
stone rune
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/502817768513470474/1286482647056388166/uM...
i think this is when u doom tag and kite lol
fervent radish
It's weird to see a health bar with no death defiances, good stuff
This is fresh file btw
stiff obsidian
i was already cooked because i was on discord when walking into the room then forgot i was playing
so i took like half a healthbar
weary lotus
So good
Helps that I have Frost Strike and Arctic Blast, meaning I'm just constantly applying chill stacks only to clear them for damage
Killed Theseus and Asterius in like 30 seconds, awesome
weary lotus
True, but I never had a chance to pick flurry jab, gotta make do with what you have
and it helps that have 4 dashes because of Hermes
along with Athena's Dash for deflection, so it's pretty safe to constantly dash-strike
twilit lodge
Roll away miniboss tunnels unhealthy fixation, get it again
Oh well no heart rend for me
stone rune
redditors are saying sub10 is rng based
stone rune
when i commented under that one that was posted here recently
jagged hamlet
They say the darnest things
stiff obsidian
i didnt even know sub10 was 'speedrun'
when i did it
i think
i dont even remember my ''sub 10''
stone rune
They say the darnest things
i think you forgot a d there
void vigil
the darnest thingds
jagged hamlet
i think you forgot a d there
stiff obsidian
never question the packrat
void vigil
some of these alternative forms really are questionable tho
old bluff
wdym, durndest is awesome
stiff obsidian
agreed
twilit lodge
I mean, everything is rng
Is the argument being made here that sub10 is doable every run?
stone rune
Is the argument being made here that sub10 is doable every run?
yeah because it is
old bluff
Is the argument being made here that sub10 is doable every run?
It is
twilit lodge
I suppose at a high enough skill level
fervent radish
meh
stone rune
at like a medium skill level
fervent radish
not that high skill level as long as you know the basic build to shoot for
stiff obsidian
i remember asking in speedcord what the worst possible run would be like
they said something around 9 mins irght
latent moon
ngl kinda yeah
fervent radish
that sounds right
old bluff
Top skill level gets sub 8 every time, sub 7:30 excluding the .1%
twilit lodge
Idk, sounds modded pilled
jagged hamlet
So easy even a redditor can do it
fervent radish
i think beo would still sub 10 on the worst rng ngl
latent moon
yeah lmao
stiff obsidian
i think youd want like achilles or eris for that
stiff obsidian
since evry room would be the equivalent of unarmoured witches trickle
latent moon
oh if we're assuming it like that
stiff obsidian
0 skips except forced ones
latent moon
throw hestia in there prob lmao
old bluff
Worse rng modded or unmodded
stone rune
on hestia you could probably sub10 boonless with a 5 sack
old bluff
Hestia is hella consistent
jagged hamlet
I love how we break out in gossiping about /r/HadesTheGame every so often LOL
twilit lodge
Well, it is factually terrible there
stiff obsidian
let me check
old bluff
We have to spread the word to all of the new players that are lurking inchat
stiff obsidian
i want to comment on something and get downvotes
stone rune
computer, pull up getting downvoted for posting factually correct information
jagged hamlet
Where dash poms
old bluff
Remember that time reddit told a new player that boiling blood increases damage per stack
jagged hamlet
Hades subreddit: "why is literally everyone driving the wrong way?!"
jagged hamlet
computer, pull up getting downvoted for posting factually correct information
To be fair to Reddit, your comments can be a bit brusque
stiff obsidian
yes
stone rune
if im right im right
stiff obsidian
when did anyone mention being right
twilit lodge
Right?
old bluff
The way you can turn on a red light?
jagged hamlet
Oh is it not?
twilit lodge
Nope
They made this game to be unbeatable
In three years he was the first
4 years I guess
jagged hamlet
Now that's someone worthy of being the champion of Elysium
void vigil
ooh someone recommended chaos shield to beat hades
as a wise person once said play zeus shield. maybe. idk i didnt go to hades school
stone rune
the wise perspective is to not play zeus
jagged hamlet
We trust AD
narrow loom
