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up to you on both
rip
Always breaching cross really
If you are doing Dem then explosive/the hadouken one also work
use aspect of hades veratha, keep basically releasing your spin attack the moment all enemies spawn but before they get a chance to move
you will be half way done from tartarus alone
Fists unplayable without long knuckle, fight me
Turn off the heat 
Nah you straight up have no range or aoe at all without it
aspect of hera + zues cast + ares attk
hammers : flurry shot + chain shot
choas : try to get an extra cast
other: artimes dislodge or hermes fast cast-drop / hermes attk
just now cleared an escape attempt with it heat 6
am so confused
about?
i love it, two escapes with it
freaky ass game ๐ซฆ
eh
ew
ouch
why not?
It's bonus is just not very helpful
what if i max it first just to fulfill skellies prophecy?
After i max out friendship**
The game tries to show you two hammers and two Hermes before Styx, but if you decline one of those by choosing the other room, it still counts towards the two which the game shows you, is that right?
If so, does it still count towards the two if Hermes or Hammer is rerolled with authority?
Nah, the game will keep pushing them
The boon/hammer must be taken
Oh okay
So it's never a big opportunity cost to e.g. grab the god i want instead of a hammer?
Hanmers generally can be insane so I'd at least take first hammer
Some weapons I try to skip 2nd hammer (sword) cuz it can offer really bad options
Or for timer wise it can be used as a menu for Than encounters
what weapon is merciful end best on?
Hermes can also be insane on anything
Either +dashes or hyper sprint+ rush delivery
If I skip hermes is against a free room or in asphodel if eury also shows up so I can take the rarity
Wait so does the game keep pushing it as in it's likely to show up again in Tartarus and a third time (or more until 2 taken) in Elysium?
Yeah, hermes/hammer will keep showing in doors until you take them
Tho for hammers in specific
The 2nd hammer can only show up from elysium
So if you take the first in tart you won't see the other hammer for a while
2nd hermes can start showing in asphodel
(or at the last chamber of tartarus if you use extensions)
Ah so you'd generally take [the hammer] first because it's a build decider; not so much because you can't afford the delay on the power spike
Yeah
Makes sense, thanks
fists
Sword and Zeus (speed) run ME very well too
Eris as well
What do you guys think nectar taste like?
Also, based on the siund effect, I kinda think Ambrosia is carbonated
orange jice
Why is aphrodites cast range so short what the heck๐ญ
Feels like it has the shortest range out of all the casts
Did you happen to get a cast replace
Or upgrade rarity on attack or cast, or sell the attack
Nope her cast is the only one I managed to get this run lol.
Only boon?
Yep
Rng has not been kind to me like at all lately.
I'm now in the heroes area and I still haven't even gotten an attack boon yet ๐
Cream soda!
Honestly I always had a headcanon that it kinda tasted like honey
Wdym
Aphro is a melee cast we all know rhat
Passion flare brainrot
That's obviously what they're referring to
I deadass thought this was on beo dude help me
Need to detox
Go play hera for a while
im almost tempted to open the game and see how many hera runs i did
with the same loadout every time


When you have choices for the free room you get before a boss do you usually go with shop or another option
Depends a lot on context
That sounds like a cool idea
I would think that too, cause it's called Nectar, but that would make it super sweet
Almost sickeningly sweet
Oh yeah, that makes sense
food coloring
no
how do you know, have you had nectar
you can't color something red into yellow without excessively diluting the original thing
yes
they removed the pomegarate and now its just food coloring and water
so they give you the pom slice separately
my genius... is almost frightening
Ngl, I never had pomegranate or it's juice before, so I just assumed it was yellow based in this alone
Yep, I did look it up to just see
hades 1 is pissing me off
okay
no, + you can get a 3rd hermes from styx if your lucky enough
the maze thinges count as encounters yes
oh boy it took me 30 hours
first get done with sisyphus and orpheus and get all buddy buddy with nyx then encounter pat's every chance you get and pray to choas it triggers this time
literally just got it done today
yeah done w both and got bonds w nyx
hades is lowkey getting boring bc of how long thios takes
your at the mercy of -RNG- the fates
yeah i hate games that do that
i past time achievement hunting and throwing nectar at everyone
hades story was never a grind for me
everything just happened, i mostly never noticed it
i only got 3 avchievments left and i maxed out most guys w nectar and am brosia
oh are you one of the people who only play for achievements
its so boring
then itd make sense
what no
any tips for farming ambrosia
i have a severe shortage
prophecies ig
i think there was one that gave 15
i should be getting some but the RNG is a dixk sometimes
i had to beat extreme measures heros twice once for the achievement and once for the prophacy becuase i guess when the first one happen posiedon was busy poking a sea orchin or something
i wont knock it a three whole points, but yeah it sucks
im afraid of beating thr game on 16 heat just to not get the 8 heat skelly prize
you will
i hope
does the 32 one give you anything besides the statue
???
!!!
i also have a question abt fated auythority
and if i can use it to get a patrolecus room
No
You cant reroll doors into shops or npc rooms or vice versa into other stuffs
Hi, I've been trying to complete Denizens of the Deep for some time. I've been making heavy use of the Conch Shell to get Huge Catch from Poseidon ASAP, but I still can't catch a very rare fish. What do I need to do to actually catch one?
Nyaanyaa's Fishing Guide
There can only be three fake bobs, so the fourth bob is always real if the first three were fake. Fake bobs have an interval of 2-5 seconds while the real bob has an interval of 1-2 seconds. So if it takes more than 2 seconds, it should be a fake bob. Meaning you should look for the real bob within a short time after you start fishing or within a short time after a previous bob.
Personally, I just look for the white flash above the bobber and ignore the bobber itself. Some players have said they have better success when putting their thumb on the bobber to not get distracted by that, so maybe you could give that a try.
A Perfect Catch means catching a fish within 340ms. Perfect Catches are 50/50 on being a legendary or rare fish. Any other catch is 50/50 on being a rare or common fish
gg
cant wait until i can see this
is 38 hours to beat hades for the first time bad?
no
Also, the bot is here is here because people kept talking about Hades 2 in this channel super often, so it is there to deter them
okay thanks
roguelikes aren't about comparison to others they're about self improvement 
BRO
SCREW HADES
I KILLED HIM
I KILLED HIM
I KILLED HIM
AND HE JUST REPLENISHES ALL HIS HEALTH
WHAT A SCAM
HOW DO YOU BEAT THIS GAME
Second phase is arguably easier!
I WAS UNDER 10 HP
MAYBE THERE'S A THIRD AND FOURTH PHASE YIPPEE HOORAY YAYEE ๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐คฃ๐๐คฃ
I CAN JUST KEEP DYING ๐คฌ
Now you know how he feels when you revive 3 times in a row
๐ that's actually true
Although, I only have 1 revive
The real villain of this game is Theseus
I actually love Hades, he seems cool
Theseus can rot in the Styx
Bro the 19th phase keeps killing my speed runs itโs awful 
good
Im terrible at the bow and worse with exagryph
My best are the sword, shield, and spear
OMG OMG OMG, FRESH RUN AND
I GOT DOOM ATTACK ON EXAGRYPH
Sword special seems rather weak
Shield and spear charge attacks too
Guys, why does stickybot keep spamming?
Hades 2
It just tries to keep the message at the bottom of the chat
Ohhh, I didn't realise that
Generally you want zeus attack + his static discharge boon on rail
It makes enemies take a lot of damage when they attack
I need a little help with exagryph. I'm not really using the special because I'm using only the keyboard without the mouse
How can I aim the special?
It usually goes Shield/Rail>Bow>Spear>Sword>Fists
Fists are abhorrent
If you have aim at cursor turned off doesnt it just auto aim at enemies like the attack, you mostly can get them to walk into it with your own positioning
I won't quite go that far, but they are pretty bad, yeah
try getting a mouse
I have a mouse
oh
I just dislike mouse controls
it makes it infintely easier
whats the best shield aspect
Beo unless youre doing super high heat
Zeus then yeah
The other ones don't get very much use out of blood investment
Zag gets some, but Chaos played right gets zero
Are there any mods for Hades?
But yeah, there is quite a lot of mods
There is even a discord pinned in the self promo channel here
Tis is worse imo
Also, about tis
oh, are we talking story wise?
Yeah, tis is the hardest imo
Meg is easiest and Alecto is middle
But I also have speedrun brainrot, so "hardest to beat" to me just means slowest
Which is better, ambrosia delight or pom porridge?
Well for not dying to in high heat tis is the easiest and alecto is ๐
Alecto is EASYYYYYY
Go play 50 heat on melee then come back
aspect of zeus is pretty funny lol
i got the hammer where it explodes when you catch it
so I just stand right next to enemies and bounce it back and forth
Tbf for heat tis is still a pain in the ass
fun times
alecto is the hardest of the furies imo
those spinning blades are horrific
Yeah
tisiphone is very predictable yeah, and megaera is just ok
just my mid heat take, but yeah, tis is basically a dps check because each invuln phase is kind of just a breather
alecto (and meg to a degree) the whole combat is frantic so if you lose track of yourself during the invuln phases you can eat some damage
wouldn't even say tis is dps check because you can get through without dps, but its like, easier if you pass the dps check, work if you don't
Tis doesnt spawn a billion circles on you while youre trying to hit her in melee 
The alecto blade has probably killed me more than anything else in Tartarus
alecto does make some very big circles
And on fo2 she makes them very fast 
tisiphone is a meme if you have any sort of deflect
you just deflect her massive swarms of projectiles back at her and shred her
don't we all
"you just deflect her massive swarms of projectiles back at her and shred murder her"
FTFY
tru
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1226642940764487690/1270984891164659803/2024-08-07_22-53-56_-_Trim.mp4?ex=66b5b06b&is=66b45eeb&hm=e3006e197a300022017c42a604eca64042c2ed96adc7e4da1be241da9971c752& this is clearly how scooting is meant to be used right 
Anyone know any cool mods that affect aspect of Gilgamesh?
Worth a try
tis is easy as hell she cant even aim
I just wanted to say that I've been ignoring Cast builds for the longest time cause my mentality was "why cast when me bonk good" but then I tried playing with the aspect of Beowulf and turns out, it's really fun

๐
You can send imbedded image links
thatโll do the trick
I believe disabling regular image posting just helps prevent bots
He just tries to keep his message at the bottom of the channel so any unsuspecting hades II players will see him
how?
The easiest way is if you send an image anywhere else on discord (say, a private discord server, or stickybots dms (stickybot wonโt care))
You can right click on that image then grab this
oh
Then itโs just paste it into your message
And itโll pop up like that
You can use other services like imgur iirc but I canโt be bothered
She would be a cool modded God
no
Yes
Hi guys can someone whos gotten the platinum clear to me if i have to unlock all aspects by buying them once on every weapon?
bro this game is actually getting harder
do the bosses at all get harder as you get perma upgrades?
iirc, you need to spend five titans' blood on a non zag aspect on every weapon
I don't think you need to unlock all aspects
whats a platinum clear
Getting every achievement
Some get new forms, some get new moves, but that's about it lmao
Not necessarily harder, but just different
Although some forms are considered harder than others but it's not like significantly harder
|| EM4 goes kinda crazy ||
whats em4
Getting upgrades never affects bosses stats or moves aside from one work order for an optional difficulty setting
enemies will hit themselves when they attack
This is exactly what I was thinking hahaha
aphrodisiac duo boon: enemy attack can hit other enemies for a percentage of damage dealt
Monika Boons -
Monika's Aid: Your Call resets enemies to their base state without refunding health and disables shields for a short while. Shields return after the duration.
Your Reality: Your Cast becomes a short range strike that cloaks every foe except the target for an exceedingly short amount of time.
Dark Thoughts: After inflicting enough damage on a foe, the target will deal some damage to itself for a while.
but why tho
Ummmm, aren't dash just before getting hit abilities really bad?
Since you have to get... hit
Or am I wrong?
How does that work?
No
If you dodge an ability via dashing right before you'd otherwise get hit, the effect triggers
There's also a category of 'vengeance' boons which do what you're thinking of; they proc an effect if you actually get hit
But even then, there's a duo boon which causes vengeance boons to proc automatically without getting hit
Thanks ๐
I don't like the revenge abilities since you have to actually lose health for a small benefit
yeah, but as i said
there's a duo boon that makes them much more acceptable
Hey
Does Orphious' keepsake, Distant Memory, it makes you deal bonus damage against distant enemies
Does it work with Casts?
Yep
https://open.spotify.com/track/57eWTALuNNY3V4h3KC4EhK?si=Qxp-FO0JQ8WxpxWNk76HMQ
Precisely what's going on in my head
Ah
How do I get duo boons?
Also, if I max out "God's Legacy", does that mean 10% of all boons will be Legendary?
the exact requirements for a duo boon vary, but generally speaking, you'll likely eventually get offered a duo boon by having enough boons from two gods
Oh, I always go with Ares boons
Because of doom
Will I get a ****ton of rewards?
I haven't even read all the conditions ๐
YUP, I DIED AT THE FIRST CHAMBER
The way legendary boons work is that if you have enough boons from a particular god, you then have a chance to be offered their legendary each time you pick them
so if you have gods' legacy, you're not just gonna get a legendary at the very first chamber
rather, it just means that once you qualify for a legendary, you have a higher chance of getting it
yeah i wouldn't recommend doing heat yet
just focus on clearing in the 'regular' mode
๐
Also, is Orpheus a guy or girl?
guy
as per the original greek myth
But in the game...?
still a guy
Although, he really looks and sounds like a lady
Nyx is a real one
she is indeed
I wonder...
Has someone completed a run with every punishment?
And
Has someone done a run with EVERYTHING equipped?
via the pact of punishment? yes, though that's world-record levels of skill
what do you mean by everything
Every boon, hammer, pom, keepsake, maxed mirror (both sides) etc.
Would definitely have to be modded, but yeah
no possible way to do that in the game as intended
Maybe someone modded it...?
99% sure nah
maybe, i wouldn't recommend going too deep in mods while you're still new at the game though
Oh, why is that?
Beating the game once is still considered "new"? ๐ญ
How hard is this omg
Because if you're still learning the game, mods can throw you off and cause you to develop habits that might screw you over in the base game
Yeeeeeeeep
yes that's like 1% of the game, there's so much more to do
Don't get us wrong; clearing for the first time is something to be proud of
But in terms of content, that's only the start
one can go 3000 hours without ever running out of possible objectives
yeah ggs on first win ofc
Th- three thou-
WHAT
Ehhhhh
Most of the mods that exist are gameplay tweaks designed for speedrunning or things like that
Not a lot of 'more content' stuff
Oh
I mean there is OlympusExtra or Zyruvias' Incremental Overhaul, or a few visual mods... but that's about the extent of content mods. ๐
Hence why I say 'not a lot'
And with hades 2 coming out, I feel like a lot of attention is going there instead
1,000 gemstones for 1 vial of Titan blood is atrocious
Yeah don't bother with the broker much yet
It's more relevant later in the game when you have plenty of resources to spare
I just buy the special deals
And anything for keys
Like buying Titan blood for 15 keys
Keys are so useless now
Uhhh... is there a spoiler chat?
I kinda have a question
spoilers are allowed in here
Lemme just go there
Hahaha, I just got my first perfect fishing catch by mistake
Just randomly clicked it, not even by accidentally clicking when I see a bob
Eurydice sings well
Unsurprising
not a bad way to learn
though keep in mind that the game does change a few details here and there to avoid unpleasant implications
Tell me one
For instance, they take pains to avoid mentioning the implicit incest in the Greek pantheon with Zeus being married to his sister and things like that
And they also avoid mentioning Zeus' rampant adultery in the myths
Ruthless reflex or greater reflex? ๐ค
ruthless reflex is for
due to the bonus dashes gilga gives, and for high heat
thanks to their ability to negate damage by blocking as well. everything else prefers greater reflex.
Also if you are Scratch you play Talos with ruthless monodash.
but only Scratch can do this.
Greater reflex 99.999% of the time
if you're scratch you play rr for all fists, and rr chop for all swords
Having multiple dashes is just way too useful
Also before you tell me to alex I'm turning in for the night. gn and have a good day : )
on that note, chop gaming was actually really fun, were I to climb sword high heat more I'd probably use the modpack and give that a try
Who the tartarus is Gilgamesh?
I somehow got 5 dashes on my completion run
I think Hermes gave me 3 more
yep, that'll do it
Who's tartarus?
do you mean what is tartarus
Tartarus is a primordial being in Greek myth
gilgamesh is in hades?
Idk man, that's what the other guy said
edited
Gilga is the hidden aspect of the fists, and it is the worse weapon in the game lmao
oh i havent unlocked them yet
i see
You might have fun with it, but you also might not
whats boons do i need so that grandma cast on stygian soul will be worth it
and aspect also
i wanna try this one
I had lvl 9 Epic beam, lvl 3 glare, two extra casts from chaos, Fully Loaded, Mirage Shot, Bad News, Crystal Clarity ofc, Pressure Points, Clean Kill, and a Braid of Atlas... Hades stood no chance.
all of my YT uploads come from Twitch: byrne_baby
The build is listed in the description
really?
crystal clarity duo with arty
Glacial glare and pom that a lot
Sorry for the lore dump
Gilgamesh was an ancient god king of Uruk within Sumerian mythology. The epic of Gilgamesh is an ancient story of how Gilgamesh was a cruel king who oppressed his subjects, so the gods sent a wildman named "Enkidu" to redeem him. Enkidu and Gilgamesh "wrestled" and "fought" for days afterwhich they became "good friends"
( อกยฐ อส อกยฐ).
The epic continues where after some events including Gilgamesh rejecting Ishtar (goddess of love) Gilgamesh and Enkidu fight a mighty bull and slay it. Unfortunately this fight led to the death of Enkidu. I'm not entirely sure of the following but I think the story continues that Gilgamesh seeks a form of immortality but eventaully makes peace with dying.
The tale is generally cited as being about the love between fellow men (also a common/valid interpretation is that they were intimate).
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
I'm 8 btw
I'll explain when you're older
Okie dokie
Also, don't tell your age to strangers online
I'm not 8, dw haha
I don't think an 8 yr old would be able to beat Hades
Unless they were like 1 in a 1,000 or something
mate on the speedrunning discord there's a toddler who plays the game
so yeah 1 in a 1000
A toddler is...?
3-4?
Also, toddlers shouldn't be on discord ๐
Wtf, that toddler is cracked
You're telling me a 3.5 year old can beat Hades?
I'm amazed
my toddler controlled the mouse which had attack, special, cast, and reload (not used, obviously) bound. i controlled keyboard with everything else. aim at cursor was off so i was mostly the one aiming as well. nonetheless the kiddo did a great job! the ending is abrupt because that's how a toddler's attention span works.
*playing with their parent
Well, I did see a toddler play a rhythm game better than I ever could
So, what do I know?
What are some impressive feats accomplished in the Hades community?
Is there damageless?
also your discord account would be terminated if someone chose to report your acc
yep
Guys, I'm NOT 8
PLEASE DON'T REPORT ME ๐ญ
I think there is a sub 10 damageless
thats cool but if someone reported that specific message for funnies youll end up having to send age verification documents to discord
64 heat has been done a bunch of times by many different runners
currently the big achievements are high heat and speedrunning.
Well, this acc ain't anything special
4:30 modded WR is actually crazy
Has 60 heat been done?
64 has
my guy
so 64 heat runs (about 10 people 2 unmodded, 6 modded 1 hypermodded, 1 seeded)

Poshboy did it lmao
@brisk trail
poshboy unmodded 64 when
using the speedrunners modpack but yes
fair enough
you can't make me
I mean, they did the seeded unmodded 64
๐ ๐ญ okay
Hey ๐
true but honestly that's easier than modded unseeded (modded unseeded took me 2 months of grinding).
can i get mirage shot on meme beam
yep, it's possible (if rng lines up)
just kinda a pain
do i have to pick between thanatos and meg for romance?
no
No you can fill romance Meg and than and || dusa ||
Iโm not sure if youโre aware of the third option so I put it in spoilers
dusa was always an option for me. shes an absolute sweetheart and works too hard.
i dislike dusa
why?
ugly + annoying voice
shes a shy hard worker who cleans the whole house
Disliking Dusa is criminal
Can I swear in here?
no
Because HOLY ****, THAT ONE LEGENDARY ARES BOON IS AMAZING
COUPLED WITH HIS CALL, I DESTROYES THESEUS IN 3 SECONDS
?
It ramps up all consecutive rift strikes
So with a full call gauge, he stood no chance
I see

But it was still pretty cool to watch that dum dum perish quickly
Man, I am absolutely STACKED this run
Guess my favourite god
bophades
also only keep your highest source of hangover
also dio on zeus is not that great
bophades?
Hangover is my fav ability, it's nice to poison with everything I got
Why not?
oh no
Inspired by this reddit post:
https://www.reddit.com/r/HadesTheGame/comments/wrr0jj/bophades_part_2/
||bophades nuts lmao||
Omg ๐คฆโโ๏ธ
Hangover is good but more recent stacks overwrite earlier stacks
Did the voice actors actually do this lol?
Nah
It's just really good
Zeus or aphro on special works better with dio on attack or call for supporting dps
I don't enjoy Aphrodite abilities
Thatโs fine
I like playing really aggresive
Also, why is every character in this game HAWT
(Except Poseidon)
If I lose this run, I have actual skill issue
LMFAO
the death makes it infinitely better
Key boons for a Zeus shield build are thunder flourish, static discharge, double strike, dio/zeus attack/call while only having one source of hangover
Itโs a 45 damage bolt every time the special hits
Yeah hangover is good accessory damage but Zeus is one of the better boons on special
I ship Zag and Meg
Guys, what do I do with Ambrosia?
Other than trading it for Titan Blood?
Gift to complete relationships
Upgrade something you get for completing relationships
Ohhh, so I should keep giving nectar to people?
That's... good to know
Wait, how do I even give nectar to Meg?
She has accepted only once ever
Even when I had nectar
How much nectar completes a relationship?
Look at the codex
I keep trading Ambrosia for Titan blood ๐ญ
Thats fine you generally have an excess anyways
I have nectar in excess, not Ambrosia
what call??
boon**
Itโs only +1 for call or something
same.
That's still like 400 extra damage
i was on a dam good run. zeus atk with divine dash and demeter special. hadnt lost any dd's yet and lost 2 to him.
400 isnโt that much
Dash strikes are pretty good huh
indeed
Yeah
My secret to defeating any boss without losing much health at all:
- Get the Aspect of Zeus on Aegis
- Throw it away
- Run around the chamber like a maniac
- Win the fight in like 10 minutes
Optional - Get Doom or Hangover on your special or this will take wayyy longer
I had the hangover effect on the chiron bow special, and it was crazy. I would hit with attack, then procc max hangover instantly @ 12 DMG each. Oh, and Doom on the attack. Pretty good. Stupid Theseus.
Try Zeus on special atleast once
With static discharge
And explosive return
Itโs much stronger
Doom strike bow 
Strike bow?
I'll give it a try. I was hopeful the hangover effect maxed out like that would melt bosses, but it wasn't quite as good as I'd hoped
Strike is your basic attack
Ah
I mean the damage should be pretty good if you had a little smthing else for your hangover
Ares and Dionysus really understand how to kill
Like low tolerance or curse of nausea or rush delivery
@rustic vale it was pretty good. I think maybe the biggest problem was me lol
Well like ofc it was pretty good it was a 12 damage hangover but thereโs a lot you can do to have hangover give you a bit more damage
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1271146351580676158/1271574931901120612/Screenshot_398.png?ex=66b7d5f0&is=66b68470&hm=5d3fc7c8abfa49ad6d88e347ea123af161d015ba3dacbcb38cabbb80cc20a80b&
Let me know if I should change any benefits to their alternate version
Ohhhhh
quite a few things
It's not good? ๐ญ
Change 1, 2, 7, 9, 10, and 12
Swap dark regen, golden touch, priv status, olympian favour and fated authority to the other sides
Why 1?
I'm a certified fiery believer
It would be terrible for boss fights
shadow presence vs fiery presence depends on the aspect
Eh thatโs not the concern tbh
like
2 ISN'T GOOD???
It sucks
HOW
dark regen heals you when it matters the least, or a pitiful amount any other time
If you dont have any time pressure then shadow is fine
Ie. After a boss fight when youโre about to hit a well anyways
Fiery is def the least important one
3 health per chamber is nothing
where cthonic vitality always works (especially in styx tunnels) to give you
Dark regen is pretty bad
0 hp a chamber aside from boss chambers is nothing.
Consider how theres a lot of chambers you go through
CV is way more consistent than it
But I still don't get 1
Especially when you saw olympian favour to dark foresight, you see significantly less pitiful room darkness
so
It is dogwater for bosses
Itโs a speed thing
Thatโs not the reason you would use fiery presencd
for a good chunk of weapons, bringing regular room
enemies down to 1-2 shot instead
is way more time save
True true
then a less than stellar circumstantial bonus
What's wrong with golden touch?
Spent obols now are worth more than obols never spent
Why hoard gold when you can just buy stuff
The extra money in tartarus is especially valuable for more build control since then you can use shops to add gods you want
The most important time to buy stuff is earlier in the run
Yeahhhh, but the Cerberus room has some expensive and delicious upgrades
and generally speaking, unless youโre trying to get those diamonds and blood in styx, you want to spend the money early
And I start off with the pouch of gold to get interest on that too
Styx upgrades are usually whatever and generally overpriced

Itโs more valuable to spend your obols early and get value from the boons for your entire run
Ok, I probably sound like a huge noob to you guys lololol
Its better to just start with a god keepsake and deep pockets
If you need to buy things in styx for your build to work, your build sucks ngl
tbh
Build control is important, dont just throw it away
I hoard gold to buy hearts at any given time
Typically you want to start tartarus and asphodel with different god keepsakes for gods you want in your build
so you can have a functional build rather than just like
whatever you scrap together
You dont need 400 health if you melt dad
You can also still hit absurdly high health numbers without hoarding your obols
Like
oh
you know what
True...
that brings me over the swapping olympian favour to dark foresight
Glass cannon builds are super strong in Hades
Dark foresight makes you see way more boons/obols/hearts/hammers, and way less out-of-run currency as room rewards
so
Youโll have a higher max hp and more obols to work with (+ more boons)
overall
I can handle the cannon part, not so much the glass part...
Bait, as in?
It looks good but it is not very good
15% potential damage boost isnโt worth the far decreased chance of activating it
It looks better but its not worth it
Oh
itโs just so situational and it doesnโt apply to the most impactful hits against enemies
the first few
Is Demeter good?
sheโs uh
Not really
Like a. You need two different statuses and it does nothing until you get them. And b. You need to actually apply both statuses before it does anything so the first couple hits do no increased damage and you might have to do goofy things to get both on the enemy. And c. 15% additive isnt that huge of a difference
sheโs got the same stats as athena does for attack and special so sheโs not bad
I thought I heard snurst hera wasnโt really a thing any more
Canโt remember
Was it false side?
Theres niche cases like high heat beo/hera with aphro cast and snow burst where priv can be nice
high heat beo = aphro strike + frosty flare
Hades is such a good game ๐
So true besty
Jolted pstatus is huge value
why am i catching strays 
Is this better? I'm not changing 1 and 2 because I'm not speedrunning
2 isnโt a speedrunning thing.
Ah, yes
Also, bottom
Itโs genuinely a matter of practical healing. Dark regen just gives piss poor healing unless youโre at the end of a boss chamber where there is a fountain anyways
I'm heavily relying on big health haha
I... need more darkness
When you get more darkness :)
Fair but flipping it over the fated persuasion is just
not an issue
Plus you can still get value from it with 0 darkness if you have that one work order
I don't have any darkness for either ๐ญ
I haven't even read either side carefully
Umm, are Chaos portals worth it?
They're scary
Heโs kinda always got something of value for you, and lets you skip a room
and you can use him to avoid being forced into gods you donโt want, get bonus value when you would otherwise just get like darkness or gems from the next room
once you can fish you can get some really sweet resource gains from chaos fish
and like his boons are just strong
Like
There arenโt many places you can just get +110% / +175% strike/ dash strike damage on top of your core boon
Clearly, you have never seen Croven's unmodded Hestia sub six
He had like 1k damage a shot out of Tart
how many ichors
Oh tart what
crazy
Whereโd he pull 500% strike damage from
?
?
most of the time yeah
I have never once lost to Alecto ๐
Artemis' call is beautiful
Sheesh, 1k damage all at once
And charges up really fast too
Who has the best call?
Overall good calls: zeus, dionysus
High heat calls AKA iframe machines (in order): athena, poseidon, (ares ?)
||When speedrunning,
keepsake can be useful too.||
Artemis and aphrodite can be useful on bosses sometimes, but the downsides to having a call in general tend to outweigh the value any call not listed above would supply
arty call for iframes ๐ฃ๏ธ
Shop
You have to be joking Iโm using the heightened security condition for a prophecy and I died to hades green vase that does 150 aoe stun damage
How good is frost/chill or whatever it's called and how far can it stack?
Not very and it can be stacked up to ten
chill is op
Which is better on Aspect of Zeus Aegis, Weak or Chill?
Like
whatโs the rest of your build?
or are you trying to ask about a starting place
I have doom on attack
Keep your weak , what are the other boon options
Winter vortex and some useless ahh thing
Plus aphro special has better places to go
for % based stuff usually the curses/status doesnt matter, just the % number
Im guessing your zeus shield isnt max level, youd be much better off starting zeus keepsake and getting his special
Aphro still poms better
Aphro also just has better places to go to in terms of your duos if you can score like zeus aid or smthing
Charon is such a bastard
I lost everything
He does way too much damage
All three DDs gone
Did you fight him in tart
6 for most stuff, 8 dashes with gilga
Get epic +dashes then have eurydice make it heroic
Checks out
Make it infinite at that point
So in love with this game 
nah itโs gilga so youโd be better of with the 6 on any other aspect
chat
Chat is this real
should i reroll for support fire or just take the uc fodder
Mod your game and take both
Hades reminds me of LOL

Keep your numbers
Which is the best weapon and their best aspect?
rail eris
In what sense
If youโre looking for heat or speed it changes
looks like im right
What does the Eris aspect do for the Rail?
When you hit yourself with the special you get a global damage boost
Itโs hard to go wrong with +15-75% damage on everything
Just pick the clusterbomb and spam special lololol
but then again you can always look at r/hades if you want to see people doing hard tasks such as messing up Eris rail 
I would say shield and Beo
I saw someone recommend demeter attack on Eris on the reddit once
This is big brain time
beo is def not thebest all rounder aspect
it actually does take a lot of practice to use well/optimally
chat
what are you selling
Rip current ๐
rip current kinda trivializes ely
well then take rip current and drop pos aid
๐

You can find chain lightning later ig
Rip current is something I donโt see often and I canโt imagine you going out of your way for more pos boons
Aside from tdash
https://imgur.com/a/MWDtg2o @old bluff btw is this scooting 
Yes
poggers
Usually you don't use scooting that much on anything other than beo, but this is funny so who care
ares
Tdash scoot clearly optimal zag shield strat
Should I make a scooting guide?
What is scooting?
It is an advanced movement tech used on Beo (possible on other shields but just not used very much)
Here is a clip of me doing it https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxymjQXn2a7M-KBBSO0N9-TKyPnUseAv0S?si=jsMJhl2GtAJcTQX7
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dont click on it its a rickroll
Basically between attack/dash striking and transitioning into block theres still a window to dash even while youre holding block. So instead of dash > dash + attack > bullrush you can dash + attack > dash > bull rush. Or something
It lets you start charging bull rush one dash earlier
Like it cuts out some of the time taken going into block since youre dashing during the start up so you get bullrushes out faster if you scoot right
lvl 1 noob zag
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1226642940764487690/1271637985288523797/Hades_2024-08-09_18-12-37.mp4?ex=66b810a9&is=66b6bf29&hm=a3e7595b7e1bbd3e91174a68e9e31f0fd575b44de7afec71294423ee256253d9&
vs lvl 99 pro scooter zag https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1226642940764487690/1271639943566852138/Hades_2024-08-09_18-18-23_-_Trim.mp4?ex=66b8127c&is=66b6c0fc&hm=f9145f479698aef2cc14f933fcb0f30f9dc0bdcdc9211153396c49020aa574c1&

mobile ad ahh
It is so satisfying to do
But if you want to see pro scooting, go watch a BigP vod
That man is only capable of scooting I stg
Yeah, this is too advanced for me
Guys, what should I prioritise for trades and stuff?
I really need Dragon's blood for Aegis
What quests can I do from the fated list that are easy?
I think the benefits package one gives blood?
escaping with each pact ain't that bad too
and I don't remember what the escape with each mirror talent gives
Real
How am I going to put on dionysusโ keepsake just for me to not see his boon appear in the entirety of asphodel and once in tartarus ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ
Because the keepsake only works once
Wait actually
The keepsake has a little 1 under it if the "force god" effect is still active
And is consumed once you take the boon (shop doesn't count tho)
^
It causes the first god boon you get to be the given god
Afterwards, any gods can show up
I donโt see any issues here
Perfectly normal talos run
Holy this is RAD
Why have I never heard about this before?
Is it newer tech or just not talked about
idk i only heard about it from edward and just tried it out yesterday lol
No way I didnโt know this I used to run the same keepsake for the entire run until just before fighting hades

Whar
But can I use 2 different god keepsakes and force both of them
Yeah
Alright nice
Thats what make them so good
Dudeeeee I wasted so much time
Waht wut 
Well atleast now they're maxed
Lol true
I thought ud be scooting
When after like 3 years and i only learn about scoot, bow cancel, and spin cancel in the past month 
bow cancel and spin cancel is new i think
Ideal strat right there
Then just take some defensive keepsakes (acorn or one of the lesser options) or utility (like hourglass and purse) into elysium and defense into styx
someone help what are the odds of a patrolecus room
and what are the odds of him doing the prophecy message
It's that nobody talks about outside of like top Beo speedrunners, it's super old
Iirc 50% chance that you see him in a run
I could be wrong
Then I am the most unlucky guy lol
Patrolecus seems to be going out of his way to avoid me
Is it a crime to want to reunite him with his Himbo bf or something?๐ญ
Dw me too
One of my favorite parts of escaping was viewing the sunrise after the final fight. Even though its the same image, I took a minute to enjoy it every time.
I've now advanced the game to a point where I no longer see the sunrise after each win. Boo. Can they patch this? Lol
Just do a FFTC speedrun
I just screenshot it and set it as my wallpaper for a month
can anyone give me a meme cast build that has insanely high damage
high damage
thats not beowulf mirage or crystal clarity
Achilles trippy shot
With ice wine and scint feast
Even base cast can be high damage with enough scaling tbh
Hera Crush Shot
stygian of infernal
Trippy does stygian
k
Feels more like 5 I never get him
I always chuckle when I get to Theseus. He always acts like I'm some horrible foe he's heroically fighting.
Is his personality based on a trope?
Maybe wrestling heel
Can someone tell me why im not able to use the mirror anymore
Is it because ive bought the eldest sigil
What is that
Itโs a pact of punishment modifier
Nothing is on
Interesting
Do i have to finish the epilogue without the mirror
As in you can't interact with the mirror or?
I fixed it
Ah 
took me 87
45 gang



