#h1-discussion

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tepid light
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drunken fist (demeter fists with dionysus strike)

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special is your choice

rotund horizon
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ok

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what duos

tepid light
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Depends on what else you get

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Actually, how about aphrodite special

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Yeah, do that

rotund horizon
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what hammers

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and p status?

tepid light
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up to you on both

rotund horizon
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i died

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to lernie

tepid light
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rip

mint coral
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If you are doing Dem then explosive/the hadouken one also work

main hemlock
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use aspect of hades veratha, keep basically releasing your spin attack the moment all enemies spawn but before they get a chance to move

you will be half way done from tartarus alone

mint coral
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You could also just do hestia

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Or guan yu if you wanna reset for charged skewer

stiff obsidian
mint coral
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Turn off the heat dusa

stiff obsidian
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Nah you straight up have no range or aoe at all without it

main hemlock
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aspect of hera + zues cast + ares attk

hammers : flurry shot + chain shot

choas : try to get an extra cast

other: artimes dislodge or hermes fast cast-drop / hermes attk

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just now cleared an escape attempt with it heat 6

stiff obsidian
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am so confused

main hemlock
stiff obsidian
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that build

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but now it makes sense, you used it

main hemlock
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i love it, two escapes with it

ebon ermine
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freaky ass game ๐Ÿซฆ

main hemlock
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ouch

rotund horizon
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wait

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lemme try

lofty peak
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why not?

old bluff
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It's bonus is just not very helpful

lofty peak
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After i max out friendship**

stiff obsidian
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its op

weary pewter
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The game tries to show you two hammers and two Hermes before Styx, but if you decline one of those by choosing the other room, it still counts towards the two which the game shows you, is that right?

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If so, does it still count towards the two if Hermes or Hammer is rerolled with authority?

mint coral
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The boon/hammer must be taken

weary pewter
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Oh okay

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So it's never a big opportunity cost to e.g. grab the god i want instead of a hammer?

mint coral
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Hanmers generally can be insane so I'd at least take first hammer

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Some weapons I try to skip 2nd hammer (sword) cuz it can offer really bad options

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Or for timer wise it can be used as a menu for Than encounters

lofty peak
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what weapon is merciful end best on?

mint coral
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Hermes can also be insane on anything

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Either +dashes or hyper sprint+ rush delivery

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If I skip hermes is against a free room or in asphodel if eury also shows up so I can take the rarity

weary pewter
mint coral
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Tho for hammers in specific

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The 2nd hammer can only show up from elysium

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So if you take the first in tart you won't see the other hammer for a while

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2nd hermes can start showing in asphodel

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(or at the last chamber of tartarus if you use extensions)

weary pewter
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Ah so you'd generally take [the hammer] first because it's a build decider; not so much because you can't afford the delay on the power spike

mint coral
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Yeah

weary pewter
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Makes sense, thanks

rotund horizon
old bluff
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Sword and Zeus (speed) run ME very well too

stiff obsidian
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Eris as well

neon tapir
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What do you guys think nectar taste like?

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Also, based on the siund effect, I kinda think Ambrosia is carbonated

void vigil
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orange jice

runic jungle
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Why is aphrodites cast range so short what the heck๐Ÿ˜ญ
Feels like it has the shortest range out of all the casts

old bluff
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Did you happen to get a cast replace

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Or upgrade rarity on attack or cast, or sell the attack

runic jungle
old bluff
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Only boon?

runic jungle
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Yep
Rng has not been kind to me like at all lately.
I'm now in the heroes area and I still haven't even gotten an attack boon yet ๐Ÿ˜‚

jagged hamlet
runic jungle
stiff obsidian
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Aphro is a melee cast we all know rhat

mint coral
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Passion flare brainrot

stiff obsidian
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That's obviously what they're referring to

old bluff
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I deadass thought this was on beo dude help me

stiff obsidian
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Need to detox

mint coral
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Go play hera for a while

stiff obsidian
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Hera doesn't exactly give you an idea of cast range

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Either

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I'd you don't miss

void vigil
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im almost tempted to open the game and see how many hera runs i did

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with the same loadout every time

stiff obsidian
uncut dirge
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When you have choices for the free room you get before a boss do you usually go with shop or another option

neon tapir
neon tapir
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Almost sickeningly sweet

stiff obsidian
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It's pomegranate juice

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That's why it gives u a slice

neon tapir
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Oh yeah, that makes sense

fervent radish
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makes 0 sense

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nectar is yellow

stiff obsidian
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food coloring

fervent radish
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no

stiff obsidian
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how do you know, have you had nectar

fervent radish
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you can't color something red into yellow without excessively diluting the original thing

stiff obsidian
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yes

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they removed the pomegarate and now its just food coloring and water

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so they give you the pom slice separately

fervent radish
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๐Ÿง 

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genius

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pomegranate juice of theseus

stiff obsidian
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my genius... is almost frightening

neon tapir
stiff obsidian
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LOL

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its red btw

neon tapir
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Yep, I did look it up to just see

echo solar
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hades 1 is pissing me off

stiff obsidian
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okay

junior lion
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can i level up boons in the small rooms in styx

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not boons i mean keepsakes

main hemlock
main hemlock
junior lion
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ok sick

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also how tf do i get the achilles and patrolecus quest done

main hemlock
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literally just got it done today

junior lion
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hades is lowkey getting boring bc of how long thios takes

main hemlock
junior lion
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yeah i hate games that do that

main hemlock
stiff obsidian
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hades story was never a grind for me

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everything just happened, i mostly never noticed it

junior lion
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i only got 3 avchievments left and i maxed out most guys w nectar and am brosia

stiff obsidian
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oh are you one of the people who only play for achievements

junior lion
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its so boring

stiff obsidian
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then itd make sense

junior lion
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what no

stiff obsidian
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what

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then whats the problem

main hemlock
junior lion
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i think there was one that gave 15

main hemlock
# junior lion prophecies ig

i should be getting some but the RNG is a dixk sometimes

i had to beat extreme measures heros twice once for the achievement and once for the prophacy becuase i guess when the first one happen posiedon was busy poking a sea orchin or something

junior lion
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dam

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yeah imo the stupid rng based things bring the game from a 10 to a 7 or 8

main hemlock
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i wont knock it a three whole points, but yeah it sucks

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im afraid of beating thr game on 16 heat just to not get the 8 heat skelly prize

junior lion
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you will

main hemlock
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i hope

stiff obsidian
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you will

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do 32 to get all 3 at once

junior lion
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does the 32 one give you anything besides the statue

fervent radish
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No

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Joy

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Clout

junior lion
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???

jagged hamlet
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!!!

junior lion
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i also have a question abt fated auythority

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and if i can use it to get a patrolecus room

old bluff
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No

twin thistle
junior lion
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ok

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thanks

karmic canyon
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Hi, I've been trying to complete Denizens of the Deep for some time. I've been making heavy use of the Conch Shell to get Huge Catch from Poseidon ASAP, but I still can't catch a very rare fish. What do I need to do to actually catch one?

old bluff
# karmic canyon Hi, I've been trying to complete Denizens of the Deep for some time. I've been m...

Nyaanyaa's Fishing Guide
There can only be three fake bobs, so the fourth bob is always real if the first three were fake. Fake bobs have an interval of 2-5 seconds while the real bob has an interval of 1-2 seconds. So if it takes more than 2 seconds, it should be a fake bob. Meaning you should look for the real bob within a short time after you start fishing or within a short time after a previous bob.

Personally, I just look for the white flash above the bobber and ignore the bobber itself. Some players have said they have better success when putting their thumb on the bobber to not get distracted by that, so maybe you could give that a try.

A Perfect Catch means catching a fish within 340ms. Perfect Catches are 50/50 on being a legendary or rare fish. Any other catch is 50/50 on being a rare or common fish

stiff obsidian
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gg

uncut lake
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is 38 hours to beat hades for the first time bad?

old bluff
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no

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Also, the bot is here is here because people kept talking about Hades 2 in this channel super often, so it is there to deter them

uncut lake
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okay thanks

dreamy mesa
brisk trail
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BRO

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SCREW HADES

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I KILLED HIM

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I KILLED HIM

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I KILLED HIM

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AND HE JUST REPLENISHES ALL HIS HEALTH

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WHAT A SCAM

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HOW DO YOU BEAT THIS GAME

jagged hamlet
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Second phase is arguably easier!

brisk trail
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I WAS UNDER 10 HP

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MAYBE THERE'S A THIRD AND FOURTH PHASE YIPPEE HOORAY YAYEE ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜…๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜„๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿคฃ

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I CAN JUST KEEP DYING ๐Ÿคฌ

stiff obsidian
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fr half my runs end in the 4th phase

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its actually so annoying

twin thistle
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Now you know how he feels when you revive 3 times in a row

brisk trail
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Although, I only have 1 revive

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The real villain of this game is Theseus

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I actually love Hades, he seems cool

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Theseus can rot in the Styx

old bluff
brisk trail
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Can someone rank all the weapons?

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My favs are the bow and exagryph

stiff obsidian
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good

agile ravine
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Im terrible at the bow and worse with exagryph

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My best are the sword, shield, and spear

brisk trail
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OMG OMG OMG, FRESH RUN AND

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I GOT DOOM ATTACK ON EXAGRYPH

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Sword special seems rather weak

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Shield and spear charge attacks too

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Guys, why does stickybot keep spamming?

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Hades 2

twin thistle
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It just tries to keep the message at the bottom of the chat

brisk trail
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Ohhh, I didn't realise that

twin thistle
brisk trail
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Static discharge?

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It's been 3 days, I'm not familiar with all the names

old bluff
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It makes enemies take a lot of damage when they attack

brisk trail
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I need a little help with exagryph. I'm not really using the special because I'm using only the keyboard without the mouse

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How can I aim the special?

old bluff
brisk trail
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Fists are abhorrent

twin thistle
old bluff
brisk trail
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I have a mouse

stiff obsidian
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oh

brisk trail
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I just dislike mouse controls

stiff obsidian
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it makes it infintely easier

narrow loom
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whats the best shield aspect

twin thistle
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Beo unless youre doing super high heat

narrow loom
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I'm trying to unlock beo

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which one should I invest blood into

old bluff
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Beo :)

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Zeus is the easy pick

twin thistle
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Zeus then yeah

old bluff
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The other ones don't get very much use out of blood investment

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Zag gets some, but Chaos played right gets zero

brisk trail
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Are there any mods for Hades?

brisk trail
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Lolll

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Is there a modding section?

old bluff
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But yeah, there is quite a lot of mods

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There is even a discord pinned in the self promo channel here

brisk trail
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That's very cool

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Meg is the strongest of her sisters tbh

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They undermine her

old bluff
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Tis is worse imo

brisk trail
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Also, about tis

old bluff
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oh, are we talking story wise?

brisk trail
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I think she keeps saying murder

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Cuz SHE is the murderer

brisk trail
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To beat

old bluff
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Yeah, tis is the hardest imo

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Meg is easiest and Alecto is middle

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But I also have speedrun brainrot, so "hardest to beat" to me just means slowest

brisk trail
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Which is better, ambrosia delight or pom porridge?

twin thistle
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Well for not dying to in high heat tis is the easiest and alecto is ๐Ÿ’€

brisk trail
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Alecto is EASYYYYYY

twin thistle
narrow loom
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aspect of zeus is pretty funny lol

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i got the hammer where it explodes when you catch it

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so I just stand right next to enemies and bounce it back and forth

latent moon
latent moon
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Although I'd argue Alecto is harder at heat

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Bc tis is more predictable

tepid light
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alecto is the hardest of the furies imo

those spinning blades are horrific

latent moon
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Yeah

tepid light
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tisiphone is very predictable yeah, and megaera is just ok

dreamy mesa
# latent moon Although I'd argue Alecto is harder at heat

just my mid heat take, but yeah, tis is basically a dps check because each invuln phase is kind of just a breather
alecto (and meg to a degree) the whole combat is frantic so if you lose track of yourself during the invuln phases you can eat some damage

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wouldn't even say tis is dps check because you can get through without dps, but its like, easier if you pass the dps check, work if you don't

twin thistle
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Tis doesnt spawn a billion circles on you while youre trying to hit her in melee bouldy

fervent radish
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The alecto blade has probably killed me more than anything else in Tartarus

dreamy mesa
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alecto does make some very big circles

twin thistle
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And on fo2 she makes them very fast bouldy

tepid light
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tisiphone is a meme if you have any sort of deflect

you just deflect her massive swarms of projectiles back at her and shred her

brisk trail
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Theseus is a rather bastard

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I want to feed him to Cerberus

tepid light
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don't we all

jagged hamlet
paper aurora
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Anyone know any cool mods that affect aspect of Gilgamesh?

paper aurora
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Anyone know || aspect of Gilgamesh || mods?

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I have @buoyant scaffold permission.

buoyant scaffold
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Worth a try

ebon ermine
neon tapir
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I just wanted to say that I've been ignoring Cast builds for the longest time cause my mentality was "why cast when me bonk good" but then I tried playing with the aspect of Beowulf and turns out, it's really fun

lavish sorrel
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๐Ÿ

brisk trail
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Why can't I send images?

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Stickybot, shush

rustic vale
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thatโ€™ll do the trick

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I believe disabling regular image posting just helps prevent bots

rustic vale
rotund horizon
rustic vale
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The easiest way is if you send an image anywhere else on discord (say, a private discord server, or stickybots dms (stickybot wonโ€™t care))

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You can right click on that image then grab this

rotund horizon
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oh

rustic vale
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Then itโ€™s just paste it into your message

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And itโ€™ll pop up like that

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You can use other services like imgur iirc but I canโ€™t be bothered

stiff obsidian
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no

brisk trail
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Yes

brisk trail
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Hi guys can someone whos gotten the platinum clear to me if i have to unlock all aspects by buying them once on every weapon?

rough kestrel
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bro this game is actually getting harder

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do the bosses at all get harder as you get perma upgrades?

old bluff
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I don't think you need to unlock all aspects

stiff obsidian
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whats a platinum clear

old bluff
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Getting every achievement

latent moon
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Not necessarily harder, but just different

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Although some forms are considered harder than others but it's not like significantly harder

old bluff
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|| EM4 goes kinda crazy ||

stiff obsidian
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whats em4

rustic vale
molten arch
brisk trail
molten arch
brisk trail
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Monika Boons -

Monika's Aid: Your Call resets enemies to their base state without refunding health and disables shields for a short while. Shields return after the duration.

Your Reality: Your Cast becomes a short range strike that cloaks every foe except the target for an exceedingly short amount of time.

Dark Thoughts: After inflicting enough damage on a foe, the target will deal some damage to itself for a while.

brisk trail
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She's basically the "god" of her realm

brisk trail
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Ummmm, aren't dash just before getting hit abilities really bad?

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Since you have to get... hit

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Or am I wrong?

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How does that work?

tepid light
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There's also a category of 'vengeance' boons which do what you're thinking of; they proc an effect if you actually get hit

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But even then, there's a duo boon which causes vengeance boons to proc automatically without getting hit

brisk trail
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Thanks ๐Ÿ‘

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I don't like the revenge abilities since you have to actually lose health for a small benefit

tepid light
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there's a duo boon that makes them much more acceptable

neon tapir
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Hey

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Does Orphious' keepsake, Distant Memory, it makes you deal bonus damage against distant enemies

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Does it work with Casts?

neon tapir
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Ah, neat

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Thanks for answering

junior isle
brisk trail
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How do I get duo boons?

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Also, if I max out "God's Legacy", does that mean 10% of all boons will be Legendary?

tepid light
# brisk trail How do I get duo boons?

the exact requirements for a duo boon vary, but generally speaking, you'll likely eventually get offered a duo boon by having enough boons from two gods

brisk trail
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Oh, I always go with Ares boons

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Because of doom

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I haven't even read all the conditions ๐Ÿ’€

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YUP, I DIED AT THE FIRST CHAMBER

tepid light
brisk trail
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Ohhhhh

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Thanks for explaining again

tepid light
tepid light
brisk trail
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Also, is Orpheus a guy or girl?

tepid light
brisk trail
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But in the game...?

tepid light
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still a guy

brisk trail
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Although, he really looks and sounds like a lady

tepid light
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an understandable mistake

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but yeah, he's a guy

brisk trail
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Nyx is a real one

tepid light
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she is indeed

brisk trail
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I wonder...

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Has someone completed a run with every punishment?

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And

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Has someone done a run with EVERYTHING equipped?

tepid light
tepid light
brisk trail
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Every boon, hammer, pom, keepsake, maxed mirror (both sides) etc.

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Would definitely have to be modded, but yeah

tepid light
brisk trail
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Maybe someone modded it...?

lavish sorrel
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99% sure nah

tepid light
brisk trail
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Oh, why is that?

brisk trail
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How hard is this omg

tepid light
# brisk trail Oh, why is that?

Because if you're still learning the game, mods can throw you off and cause you to develop habits that might screw you over in the base game

lavish sorrel
brisk trail
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WHAT

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That's actually really cool to hear

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Does Hades have a vast modding scene?

tepid light
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Don't get us wrong; clearing for the first time is something to be proud of

But in terms of content, that's only the start

lavish sorrel
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one can go 3000 hours without ever running out of possible objectives

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yeah ggs on first win ofc

tepid light
brisk trail
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Oh

lavish sorrel
tepid light
brisk trail
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1,000 gemstones for 1 vial of Titan blood is atrocious

tepid light
brisk trail
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And anything for keys

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Like buying Titan blood for 15 keys

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Keys are so useless now

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Uhhh... is there a spoiler chat?

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I kinda have a question

tepid light
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spoilers are allowed in here

brisk trail
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Oh

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Ok

tepid light
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though if it's story related

brisk trail
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Lemme just go there

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Hahaha, I just got my first perfect fishing catch by mistake

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Just randomly clicked it, not even by accidentally clicking when I see a bob

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Eurydice sings well

tepid light
brisk trail
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I wouldn't know haha

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I'm learning all about Greek mythology through Hades

tepid light
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not a bad way to learn

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though keep in mind that the game does change a few details here and there to avoid unpleasant implications

brisk trail
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Tell me one

tepid light
# brisk trail Tell me one

For instance, they take pains to avoid mentioning the implicit incest in the Greek pantheon with Zeus being married to his sister and things like that

And they also avoid mentioning Zeus' rampant adultery in the myths

brisk trail
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Ah, yes

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Zeus going to town on everything in sight

tepid light
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Yeah they don't mention it much in-game

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Beyond an offhand joke or two

brisk trail
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Ruthless reflex or greater reflex? ๐Ÿค”

lavish sorrel
unreal mason
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but only Scratch can do this.

tepid light
lavish sorrel
tepid light
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Having multiple dashes is just way too useful

unreal mason
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Also before you tell me to alex I'm turning in for the night. gn and have a good day : )

lavish sorrel
brisk trail
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I think Hermes gave me 3 more

tepid light
brisk trail
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Who's tartarus?

tepid light
brisk trail
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Oh, I mean

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Gilgamesh

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Idk why I said tartarus

old bluff
wispy nymph
brisk trail
old bluff
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Gilga is the hidden aspect of the fists, and it is the worse weapon in the game lmao

wispy nymph
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i see

fervent radish
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You might have fun with it, but you also might not

rotund horizon
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whats boons do i need so that grandma cast on stygian soul will be worth it

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and aspect also

old bluff
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Meme beam is usually done on Achilles

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Idk about the boons, I've never used it lmao

rotund horizon
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i wanna try this one

old bluff
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The build is listed in the description

rotund horizon
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really?

stiff obsidian
latent moon
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Glacial glare and pom that a lot

unreal mason
# brisk trail Gilgamesh

Sorry for the lore dump
Gilgamesh was an ancient god king of Uruk within Sumerian mythology. The epic of Gilgamesh is an ancient story of how Gilgamesh was a cruel king who oppressed his subjects, so the gods sent a wildman named "Enkidu" to redeem him. Enkidu and Gilgamesh "wrestled" and "fought" for days afterwhich they became "good friends"
( อกยฐ อœส– อกยฐ).
The epic continues where after some events including Gilgamesh rejecting Ishtar (goddess of love) Gilgamesh and Enkidu fight a mighty bull and slay it. Unfortunately this fight led to the death of Enkidu. I'm not entirely sure of the following but I think the story continues that Gilgamesh seeks a form of immortality but eventaully makes peace with dying.
The tale is generally cited as being about the love between fellow men (also a common/valid interpretation is that they were intimate).

brisk trail
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Why are "wrestled" and "fought" in quotes?

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And how did they become good friends?

old bluff
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uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

brisk trail
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I'm 8 btw

unreal mason
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I'll explain when you're older

brisk trail
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Okie dokie

old bluff
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Also, don't tell your age to strangers online

brisk trail
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I'm not 8, dw haha

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I don't think an 8 yr old would be able to beat Hades

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Unless they were like 1 in a 1,000 or something

unreal mason
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so yeah 1 in a 1000

brisk trail
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A toddler is...?

old bluff
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3-4?

brisk trail
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Also, toddlers shouldn't be on discord ๐Ÿ’€

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Wtf, that toddler is cracked

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You're telling me a 3.5 year old can beat Hades?

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I'm amazed

unreal mason
# brisk trail Also, toddlers shouldn't be on discord ๐Ÿ’€

my toddler controlled the mouse which had attack, special, cast, and reload (not used, obviously) bound. i controlled keyboard with everything else. aim at cursor was off so i was mostly the one aiming as well. nonetheless the kiddo did a great job! the ending is abrupt because that's how a toddler's attention span works.

โ–ถ Play video
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*playing with their parent

brisk trail
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Well, I did see a toddler play a rhythm game better than I ever could

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So, what do I know?

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What are some impressive feats accomplished in the Hades community?

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Is there damageless?

stiff obsidian
unreal mason
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yep

brisk trail
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PLEASE DON'T REPORT ME ๐Ÿ˜ญ

old bluff
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I think there is a sub 10 damageless

stiff obsidian
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thats cool but if someone reported that specific message for funnies youll end up having to send age verification documents to discord

old bluff
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64 heat has been done a bunch of times by many different runners

unreal mason
brisk trail
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Well, this acc ain't anything special

old bluff
#

4:30 modded WR is actually crazy

brisk trail
#

Has 60 heat been done?

old bluff
#

64 has

stiff obsidian
#

my guy

unreal mason
#

so 64 heat runs (about 10 people 2 unmodded, 6 modded 1 hypermodded, 1 seeded)

stiff obsidian
old bluff
#

Poshboy did it lmao

rotund horizon
#

@brisk trail

stiff obsidian
#

poshboy unmodded 64 when

unreal mason
unreal mason
#

never

stiff obsidian
#

fair enough

unreal mason
#

you can't make me

old bluff
#

I mean, they did the seeded unmodded 64

stiff obsidian
#

๐Ÿ™ ๐Ÿ˜ญ okay

brisk trail
unreal mason
brisk trail
#

Guys, I'm not underage

#

Please stop

rotund horizon
#

can i get mirage shot on meme beam

unreal mason
old bluff
#

just kinda a pain

lofty peak
#

do i have to pick between thanatos and meg for romance?

old bluff
#

no

brisk trail
#

Iโ€™m not sure if youโ€™re aware of the third option so I put it in spoilers

lofty peak
stiff obsidian
#

i dislike dusa

lofty peak
stiff obsidian
#

ugly + annoying voice

lofty peak
#

shes a shy hard worker who cleans the whole house

brisk trail
#

Disliking Dusa is criminal

stiff obsidian
#

nyx was onto something

#

she was talking too much

brisk trail
#

Can I swear in here?

stiff obsidian
#

no

brisk trail
#

Because HOLY ****, THAT ONE LEGENDARY ARES BOON IS AMAZING

#

COUPLED WITH HIS CALL, I DESTROYES THESEUS IN 3 SECONDS

stiff obsidian
#

severe doubt

#

actuually believabl

brisk trail
#

?

#

It ramps up all consecutive rift strikes

#

So with a full call gauge, he stood no chance

old bluff
#

Sadly, it does not work fully

#

It only gives one extra damage on Ares cast

brisk trail
#

I see

jagged hamlet
brisk trail
#

But it was still pretty cool to watch that dum dum perish quickly

#

Guess my favourite god

fervent radish
#

bophades

#

also only keep your highest source of hangover

#

also dio on zeus is not that great

brisk trail
brisk trail
brisk trail
old bluff
brisk trail
#

What

#

What does that mean?

fervent radish
#

||bophades nuts lmao||

brisk trail
#

Omg ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™€๏ธ

fervent radish
brisk trail
#

Did the voice actors actually do this lol?

fervent radish
#

Nah

old bluff
#

It's just really good

brisk trail
#

It's too good

#

Especially Zagreus' voice

fervent radish
brisk trail
#

I don't enjoy Aphrodite abilities

fervent radish
#

Thatโ€™s fine

brisk trail
#

I like playing really aggresive

fervent radish
#

Biggest % boost in the game

#

Weak doesnโ€™t really matter

#

Zeus is good though

brisk trail
#

Also, why is every character in this game HAWT

#

(Except Poseidon)

stiff obsidian
#

the death makes it infinitely better

fervent radish
brisk trail
#

Thunder flourish is just like hangover, right?

#

And hangover can stack

fervent radish
#

Itโ€™s a 45 damage bolt every time the special hits

fervent radish
#

Yeah hangover is good accessory damage but Zeus is one of the better boons on special

brisk trail
#

I ship Zag and Meg

#

Guys, what do I do with Ambrosia?

#

Other than trading it for Titan Blood?

fervent radish
#

Gift to complete relationships

#

Upgrade something you get for completing relationships

brisk trail
#

Ohhh, so I should keep giving nectar to people?

fervent radish
#

Yeah

#

Meg is the important one for gameplay purposes though

brisk trail
#

That's... good to know

#

Wait, how do I even give nectar to Meg?

#

She has accepted only once ever

fervent radish
#

Oh

brisk trail
#

Even when I had nectar

fervent radish
#

Shouldnโ€™t be the case

#

You can only do it once per run

brisk trail
#

How much nectar completes a relationship?

fervent radish
#

8-9 I think

#

I forgot

twin thistle
#

Look at the codex

brisk trail
#

I keep trading Ambrosia for Titan blood ๐Ÿ˜ญ

twin thistle
#

Thats fine you generally have an excess anyways

brisk trail
#

I have nectar in excess, not Ambrosia

lofty peak
#

boon**

brisk trail
#

Ramping up of blade rifts

#

I hate hate hate Theseus

#

So damn annoying

fervent radish
#

Itโ€™s only +1 for call or something

lofty peak
brisk trail
lofty peak
#

i was on a dam good run. zeus atk with divine dash and demeter special. hadnt lost any dd's yet and lost 2 to him.

fervent radish
#

400 isnโ€™t that much

stark bluff
#

Dash strikes are pretty good huh

lofty peak
#

indeed

fervent radish
#

Yeah

brisk trail
#

My secret to defeating any boss without losing much health at all:

  1. Get the Aspect of Zeus on Aegis
  2. Throw it away
  3. Run around the chamber like a maniac
  4. Win the fight in like 10 minutes
    Optional - Get Doom or Hangover on your special or this will take wayyy longer
stark bluff
#

I had the hangover effect on the chiron bow special, and it was crazy. I would hit with attack, then procc max hangover instantly @ 12 DMG each. Oh, and Doom on the attack. Pretty good. Stupid Theseus.

fervent radish
#

Try Zeus on special atleast once

#

With static discharge

#

And explosive return

#

Itโ€™s much stronger

rustic vale
#

Doom strike bow bouldy

brisk trail
#

Strike bow?

stark bluff
#

I'll give it a try. I was hopeful the hangover effect maxed out like that would melt bosses, but it wasn't quite as good as I'd hoped

rustic vale
brisk trail
#

Ah

rustic vale
brisk trail
#

Ares and Dionysus really understand how to kill

rustic vale
#

Like low tolerance or curse of nausea or rush delivery

stark bluff
#

@rustic vale it was pretty good. I think maybe the biggest problem was me lol

rustic vale
#

Well like ofc it was pretty good it was a 12 damage hangover but thereโ€™s a lot you can do to have hangover give you a bit more damage

old bluff
#

That is a mirror of all time I will say

brisk trail
old bluff
#

Change 1, 2, 7, 9, 10, and 12

rustic vale
#

Swap dark regen, golden touch, priv status, olympian favour and fated authority to the other sides

brisk trail
#

Why 1?

old bluff
#

I'm a certified fiery believer

brisk trail
#

It would be terrible for boss fights

rustic vale
#

shadow presence vs fiery presence depends on the aspect

rustic vale
#

like

old bluff
#

If you are only playing Zeus, shadow is better iirc

#

But most aspects run fiery

brisk trail
#

2 ISN'T GOOD???

rustic vale
brisk trail
#

HOW

rustic vale
#

dark regen heals you when it matters the least, or a pitiful amount any other time

twin thistle
#

If you dont have any time pressure then shadow is fine

rustic vale
#

Ie. After a boss fight when youโ€™re about to hit a well anyways

old bluff
#

Fiery is def the least important one

brisk trail
#

3 health per chamber is nothing

rustic vale
#

where cthonic vitality always works (especially in styx tunnels) to give you

old bluff
#

Dark regen is pretty bad

rustic vale
twin thistle
#

Consider how theres a lot of chambers you go through

brisk trail
#

Oh, I did not consider styx tunnels

#

Yes, I see now

old bluff
#

CV is way more consistent than it

brisk trail
#

But I still don't get 1

rustic vale
#

Especially when you saw olympian favour to dark foresight, you see significantly less pitiful room darkness

#

so

brisk trail
#

It is dogwater for bosses

rustic vale
rustic vale
brisk trail
#

Oh, I'm not that good haha

#

I have only completed twice

rustic vale
#

for a good chunk of weapons, bringing regular room
enemies down to 1-2 shot instead

#

is way more time save

brisk trail
#

True true

rustic vale
#

then a less than stellar circumstantial bonus

brisk trail
#

What's wrong with golden touch?

rustic vale
#

Spent obols now are worth more than obols never spent

twin thistle
#

Why hoard gold when you can just buy stuff

rustic vale
#

The extra money in tartarus is especially valuable for more build control since then you can use shops to add gods you want

twin thistle
#

The most important time to buy stuff is earlier in the run

brisk trail
#

Yeahhhh, but the Cerberus room has some expensive and delicious upgrades

rustic vale
#

and generally speaking, unless youโ€™re trying to get those diamonds and blood in styx, you want to spend the money early

brisk trail
#

And I start off with the pouch of gold to get interest on that too

twin thistle
#

Styx upgrades are usually whatever and generally overpriced

rustic vale
#

Itโ€™s more valuable to spend your obols early and get value from the boons for your entire run

brisk trail
#

Ok, I probably sound like a huge noob to you guys lololol

twin thistle
#

Its better to just start with a god keepsake and deep pockets

rustic vale
#

I mean

#

this is like

#

the usual

old bluff
#

If you need to buy things in styx for your build to work, your build sucks ngl

rustic vale
#

tbh

twin thistle
#

Build control is important, dont just throw it away

brisk trail
rustic vale
#

so you can have a functional build rather than just like

#

whatever you scrap together

twin thistle
#

You dont need 400 health if you melt dad

rustic vale
#

You can also still hit absurdly high health numbers without hoarding your obols

#

Like

#

oh

#

you know what

brisk trail
rustic vale
#

that brings me over the swapping olympian favour to dark foresight

old bluff
#

Glass cannon builds are super strong in Hades

rustic vale
#

Dark foresight makes you see way more boons/obols/hearts/hammers, and way less out-of-run currency as room rewards

#

so

#

Youโ€™ll have a higher max hp and more obols to work with (+ more boons)

#

overall

brisk trail
old bluff
#

Also, priv status is bait

#

Use family favorites

brisk trail
#

Bait, as in?

old bluff
#

It looks good but it is not very good

fervent radish
#

15% potential damage boost isnโ€™t worth the far decreased chance of activating it

twin thistle
#

It looks better but its not worth it

brisk trail
#

Oh

rustic vale
#

itโ€™s just so situational and it doesnโ€™t apply to the most impactful hits against enemies

#

the first few

brisk trail
#

Is Demeter good?

rustic vale
#

sheโ€™s uh

old bluff
#

Not really

rustic vale
#

she isnโ€™t a main feature in any meta builds really but like

#

try her out

twin thistle
#

Like a. You need two different statuses and it does nothing until you get them. And b. You need to actually apply both statuses before it does anything so the first couple hits do no increased damage and you might have to do goofy things to get both on the enemy. And c. 15% additive isnt that huge of a difference

rustic vale
#

sheโ€™s got the same stats as athena does for attack and special so sheโ€™s not bad

rustic vale
old bluff
#

huh

#

who told you that

rustic vale
#

Canโ€™t remember

old bluff
#

Was it false side?

twin thistle
#

Theres niche cases like high heat beo/hera with aphro cast and snow burst where priv can be nice

rustic vale
#

high heat beo = aphro strike + frosty flare

brisk trail
#

Hades is such a good game ๐Ÿ˜Œ

old bluff
#

So true besty

stiff obsidian
rustic vale
brisk trail
#

Ah, yes

old bluff
#

Also, bottom

rustic vale
#

Itโ€™s genuinely a matter of practical healing. Dark regen just gives piss poor healing unless youโ€™re at the end of a boss chamber where there is a fountain anyways

brisk trail
#

I'm heavily relying on big health haha

brisk trail
old bluff
#

When you get more darkness :)

rustic vale
#

not an issue

#

Plus you can still get value from it with 0 darkness if you have that one work order

brisk trail
#

Umm, are Chaos portals worth it?

rustic vale
#

Always

#

Well

#

95% of the time

brisk trail
#

They're scary

rustic vale
#

Heโ€™s kinda always got something of value for you, and lets you skip a room

#

and you can use him to avoid being forced into gods you donโ€™t want, get bonus value when you would otherwise just get like darkness or gems from the next room

#

once you can fish you can get some really sweet resource gains from chaos fish

#

and like his boons are just strong

#

Like

#

There arenโ€™t many places you can just get +110% / +175% strike/ dash strike damage on top of your core boon

old bluff
#

Clearly, you have never seen Croven's unmodded Hestia sub six

#

He had like 1k damage a shot out of Tart

rustic vale
#

how many ichors

rustic vale
#

crazy

#

Whereโ€™d he pull 500% strike damage from

old bluff
#

3 epic dashstrike chaos boons iirc

#

in tart

stiff obsidian
#

weapon

brisk trail
stiff obsidian
#

?

brisk trail
#

Wdym?

#

I'm using Apect of Zeus on Aegis

fervent radish
brisk trail
#

I have never once lost to Alecto ๐Ÿ˜Œ

brisk trail
#

Artemis' call is beautiful

#

Sheesh, 1k damage all at once

#

And charges up really fast too

#

Who has the best call?

lavish sorrel
#

Overall good calls: zeus, dionysus

High heat calls AKA iframe machines (in order): athena, poseidon, (ares ?)

||When speedrunning, HadesBond keepsake can be useful too.||

#

Artemis and aphrodite can be useful on bosses sometimes, but the downsides to having a call in general tend to outweigh the value any call not listed above would supply

stiff obsidian
#

arty call for iframes ๐Ÿ—ฃ๏ธ

brisk trail
#

Ares boon or shop?

#

Tell me quickly

#

I have 300 Obol

#

266 Obol

old bluff
#

Shop

fresh harbor
#

You have to be joking Iโ€™m using the heightened security condition for a prophecy and I died to hades green vase that does 150 aoe stun damage

brisk trail
#

How good is frost/chill or whatever it's called and how far can it stack?

old bluff
#

Not very and it can be stacked up to ten

stiff obsidian
#

chill is op

brisk trail
#

Which is better on Aspect of Zeus Aegis, Weak or Chill?

rustic vale
#

whatโ€™s the rest of your build?

#

or are you trying to ask about a starting place

brisk trail
#

I have doom on attack

rustic vale
#

uhhhh

#

Is this your second god in pool then

brisk trail
#

Yes

#

No, like

#

I can replace weak with chill

rustic vale
#

oh

#

whatโ€™s weak on?

brisk trail
#

And I have doom

#

Special

#

It's on the blitz shield

rustic vale
#

Keep your weak , what are the other boon options

twin thistle
#

Aphro special is better damage

#

Better to just send a screenshot

brisk trail
#

Winter vortex and some useless ahh thing

rustic vale
#

Plus aphro special has better places to go

stiff obsidian
twin thistle
#

Im guessing your zeus shield isnt max level, youd be much better off starting zeus keepsake and getting his special

brisk trail
#

It's a difference of 10%

#

They're atound 165

twin thistle
#

Aphro still poms better

rustic vale
#

Aphro also just has better places to go to in terms of your duos if you can score like zeus aid or smthing

brisk trail
#

Charon is such a bastard

#

I lost everything

#

He does way too much damage

#

All three DDs gone

twin thistle
#

Did you fight him in tart

brisk trail
#

I stoles his Obol

#

What's the highest number of dashes one can get?

#

Is it 5?

mint coral
#

6 for most stuff, 8 dashes with gilga

#

Get epic +dashes then have eurydice make it heroic

rustic vale
#

Checks out

brisk trail
#

Make it infinite at that point

deft tinsel
#

So in love with this game zagluv

rustic vale
#

nah itโ€™s gilga so youโ€™d be better of with the 6 on any other aspect

stiff obsidian
#

chat

rustic vale
stiff obsidian
#

should i reroll for support fire or just take the uc fodder

rustic vale
#

Mod your game and take both

stiff obsidian
#

i prefer the magic

#

rolling

brisk trail
#

Hades reminds me of LOL

rustic vale
stiff obsidian
#

lets go gambling

#

aw dang it

rustic vale
#

Keep your numbers

brisk trail
#

Which is the best weapon and their best aspect?

stiff obsidian
#

rail eris

rustic vale
#

If youโ€™re looking for heat or speed it changes

brisk trail
#

Overall

#

If I just picked it up and played, what would be that absolute powerhouse?

stiff obsidian
#

looks like im right

brisk trail
#

What does the Eris aspect do for the Rail?

rustic vale
#

Itโ€™s hard to go wrong with +15-75% damage on everything

brisk trail
#

Just pick the clusterbomb and spam special lololol

rustic vale
old bluff
old bluff
rustic vale
#

This is big brain time

stiff obsidian
#

beo is def not thebest all rounder aspect

#

it actually does take a lot of practice to use well/optimally

#

chat

#

what are you selling

rustic vale
#

Rip current ๐Ÿ˜”

stiff obsidian
#

wwwaaat

#

alright then

rustic vale
#

I mean thatโ€™s me personally because

#

โ€œLets go gamblingโ€ for zeus legendary

stiff obsidian
#

rip current kinda trivializes ely

rustic vale
#

well then take rip current and drop pos aid

stiff obsidian
#

๐Ÿ’€

rustic vale
#

You can find chain lightning later ig

#

Rip current is something I donโ€™t see often and I canโ€™t imagine you going out of your way for more pos boons

#

Aside from tdash

twin thistle
old bluff
#

Yes

twin thistle
#

poggers

old bluff
#

Usually you don't use scooting that much on anything other than beo, but this is funny so who care

stiff obsidian
#

ares

twin thistle
#

Tdash scoot clearly optimal zag shield strat

old bluff
#

Should I make a scooting guide?

brisk trail
#

What is scooting?

old bluff
#

It is an advanced movement tech used on Beo (possible on other shields but just not used very much)

stiff obsidian
#

dont click on it its a rickroll

twin thistle
# brisk trail What is scooting?

Basically between attack/dash striking and transitioning into block theres still a window to dash even while youre holding block. So instead of dash > dash + attack > bullrush you can dash + attack > dash > bull rush. Or something

old bluff
#

It lets you start charging bull rush one dash earlier

twin thistle
#

Like it cuts out some of the time taken going into block since youre dashing during the start up so you get bullrushes out faster if you scoot right

stiff obsidian
#

mobile ad ahh

old bluff
#

It is so satisfying to do

#

But if you want to see pro scooting, go watch a BigP vod

#

That man is only capable of scooting I stg

brisk trail
#

Guys, what should I prioritise for trades and stuff?

#

I really need Dragon's blood for Aegis

#

What quests can I do from the fated list that are easy?

mint coral
#

I think the benefits package one gives blood?

#

escaping with each pact ain't that bad too

#

and I don't remember what the escape with each mirror talent gives

fresh harbor
#

How am I going to put on dionysusโ€™ keepsake just for me to not see his boon appear in the entirety of asphodel and once in tartarus ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ

old bluff
#

Because the keepsake only works once

fresh harbor
mint coral
#

And is consumed once you take the boon (shop doesn't count tho)

tepid light
#

^

tepid light
#

Afterwards, any gods can show up

rustic vale
#

Perfectly normal talos run

rustic vale
#

Why have I never heard about this before?

#

Is it newer tech or just not talked about

twin thistle
#

bouldy idk i only heard about it from edward and just tried it out yesterday lol

fresh harbor
mint coral
fresh harbor
#

But can I use 2 different god keepsakes and force both of them

mint coral
#

Yeah

fresh harbor
#

Alright nice

stiff obsidian
#

Thats what make them so good

fresh harbor
#

Dudeeeee I wasted so much time

twin thistle
stiff obsidian
fresh harbor
#

Lol true

stiff obsidian
twin thistle
#

When after like 3 years and i only learn about scoot, bow cancel, and spin cancel in the past month bouldy

stiff obsidian
#

bow cancel and spin cancel is new i think

rustic vale
#

Then just take some defensive keepsakes (acorn or one of the lesser options) or utility (like hourglass and purse) into elysium and defense into styx

junior lion
#

someone help what are the odds of a patrolecus room

#

and what are the odds of him doing the prophecy message

old bluff
stiff obsidian
#

I could be wrong

runic jungle
stiff obsidian
#

Dw me too

stark bluff
#

One of my favorite parts of escaping was viewing the sunrise after the final fight. Even though its the same image, I took a minute to enjoy it every time.

I've now advanced the game to a point where I no longer see the sunrise after each win. Boo. Can they patch this? Lol

old bluff
#

Just do a FFTC speedrun

stiff obsidian
#

I just screenshot it and set it as my wallpaper for a month

rotund horizon
#

can anyone give me a meme cast build that has insanely high damage

stiff obsidian
#

It's either meme or high damage

#

Can't have both

rotund horizon
#

thats not beowulf mirage or crystal clarity

stiff obsidian
#

Achilles trippy shot

#

With ice wine and scint feast

#

Even base cast can be high damage with enough scaling tbh

old bluff
#

Hera Crush Shot

rotund horizon
#

im so tired of doing them

rotund horizon
old bluff
#

Trippy does stygian

rotund horizon
#

ok

#

and pray for chaos

#

pride or legacy?

old bluff
#

Legacy

#

You want Ice wind and Scint feast

rotund horizon
#

k

junior lion
stark bluff
#

I always chuckle when I get to Theseus. He always acts like I'm some horrible foe he's heroically fighting.

Is his personality based on a trope?

jagged hamlet
#

Maybe wrestling heel

brisk trail
#

Can someone tell me why im not able to use the mirror anymore

#

Is it because ive bought the eldest sigil

fervent radish
#

Shouldnโ€™t happen

#

Do you have routine inspection on

brisk trail
fervent radish
#

Itโ€™s a pact of punishment modifier

brisk trail
fervent radish
#

Interesting

brisk trail
#

Do i have to finish the epilogue without the mirror

fervent radish
#

No

#

There might be a story thing you have to progress

mint coral
brisk trail
#

I fixed it

mint coral
#

Ah dusa

brisk trail
#

I took 45 escape attempts to beat Hades

#

How good/bad am I?

stiff obsidian
#

took me 87

mint coral
#

45 gang