#h1-discussion
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Does anybody like the splash attack? It seems really bad
The strike or the dash?
Ain't nonway this is happening
You can only get 2 Hermes in a reward rooms, so the game will most likely keep offering until those 2 spots are taken
Same goes for hammers
And you wanna guess why you can only get 2? Yeah, he's def something you wanna have
Well anyway, there's no way you didn't see a single room of the keepsake you equipped
I did
You can't summon Hermes with his keepsake
If you say so then
Must be playing on a different game version than mine, and like everyone else then
Idk what to tell you
Im not lying
The game just kept giving me hermes or posiedon over and over as the only two that showed up
I equip the dionysus one in the third area to test it and he showed up
But zeus and aphro never did
Yeah weird
Strike
I can't think of a situation where you'd want it
Ye it's pretty bad
I only use it with razor shoals on bow
Too keep enemies away while damaging them
It's alright with hestia
The only use I found for it is on Lucifer because it looks like a super soaker
lmao

Homie
Take your hermes
You only get 2 (3 from styx 50:50) boons from him and they can be super valuable
Pushing him away is just asking for him to come back
It’s like skipping Hammers and being surprised when they show back up
Yea but if im specifically searching for one god I dont want him to keep showing up
yeah so you take his boons
The only things I ever take from him are the sturdy dash or the bonus dash
to get him out of the way
Rush delivery is a power upgrade directly tied to hyper sprint (sturdy dash)
And greatest reflex (extra dashes) is directly a power upgrade on multiple weapons
if you take 2 of his boons, he will stop showing, not taking him will just keep wasting a potential door
so avoiding him is just going to have him show back up again
same reason you wanna fill up your core boons even if you dont wanna use the boon
in the case of hermes, hes almost always useful anyway so isnt like youre full on wasting the room
His boons are so valuable that I & most people I know save their rerolls just for him
yep
so they can get hyper sprint -> rush delivery or greatest reflex
my god do i love to see side hustle on the tartarus shop
I love rush delivery styx shop clutching up where I didn’t get it second boon 
preferably if its a free hermes before furies, which rarely happens, but is so nice
or greater haste to just boost the hyper sprint that little bit more (thnx to movespeed being multiplicative and rush delivery boosting global additive by that % of your bonus movespeed)
Dude even politely asks you to wait for the keepsake god sometimes when he shows up instead lol
i still find it very suspicious you went thru an entire area and didnt see your god once
Eh I mean you try outrunning hermes and you have to learn the hard way where that gets you

I wish i had any other explanation other than Hermes and Poseidon kept showing up and no one else
try recording a clip or smth, perhaps we can help figure out whats going on
I will next time
I managed to get a static discharge run again which I just wrapped up lol
got a spear run going with athena ares 🙏 merciful end carry me please
i was looking through the admin records to see what i set my fastest spear time on too, its was merciful end again
man is been ages since ive seen an anvil, game hates me
what do yall think of a chiron poseidon special build?
i got sweet nectar but idk what other boons/duo boons i should get
kinda trash if you ask me
im not a huge fan of poseidon outside of dash or call
ive noticed its only really good with smaller enemies since bosses dont get knocked back
So get the usual concentrated volley then you can go sea storm for some extra dmg (and add more zeus)
Is still chiron at the end of the day but it works
(bosses do get knocked back but a minimum amount)
This is how you get that weird dad glitch with breaking wave
id rather not do dionysus again that makes he game easy
It’s got a range issue
You’ll end up knocking enemies out of range of the rest of the arrows
And while poseidons special +% is nice, if you want +% on chiron special any +% goddess will do better
would artemis be good?
yeah, she happens to actually be one typically recommended tbh
due to the amount of hits going off, your avg shot has a decent chance of at least one arrow critting, so it's a pretty sweet average damage boost as long as you source additive from elsewhere
what duo boons should i prioritize then?
heart rend, taking aphrodite on strike
is that it?
or deadly reversal via taking athena strike but I'd recommend the former
tbh yeah
would flurry shot be a good idea?
easier shots to execute plus i could crit on reg attack
flurry shot is easily a third pick on chiron after concentrated and relentless volley
flurry shot doesn't let you crit
Theres only 2 hammers per run right?
yeah
oof
when I say third pick I mean
I mean, the flurry shot hammer doesn't do anything to affect your crit chance
yes
cool
so "I could crit on reg attack" just has nothing to do with flurry shot
concentrated volley > relentless > flurry shot > zag hammer tier order
What should i get for like cast, call and dash
whatever fits and doesn't get in your way of finding heart rend
once you have heart rend, feel free to put zeus on call and posiedon on dash
welp, didn't get ME in time and died to theseus
cool
Atp you’ll look for smouldering air from zeus and aphrodite
I’d been completely ignoring it but the most common chiron build is actually hangover iirc
Would that like get sea storm or does that only apply to poseidon special and zeus attack or vise virsa
Nope, it does work. sea storm is an option it’s just not the first one you would shoot for from the ones openned
I have fought alecto 7 times in a row, now what are the odds of that
probably (1/3)^7
can anyone help me figure out something
my hades 1 hsa black bars on top and bottom
whenever i set it to my monitors resolution 1900x1200
i dont see 1900x1200 in the settings
i meant in game settings
yeah
you have 1900x1200 in your game settings?
and when you set it to that you get the black bars?
yea
dm me the image
Is getting the dialogue from dionysus that unlocks his affinity gauge rare, since I've gifted at least 10 ambrosia and have forged 7 bonds with people and talked to him like 7 times now, but haven't gotten it. Or is there some other requirement for it I don't know of?
bad luck
I keep getting the dialogues where he says he'll give me a boon to help me with escaping
if someone else can help mangokip pls do
sounds like generic dialogue, which shouldnt happen if youre correct in meeting the requirements
Do I have to collect an amborisa in a run and then talk to dionysus to get the affinity gauge unlocked?
i dont think so
I've just been talking to him over and over and can't seem to get the dialogue
idk mate, only think i can ask you is to make sure youve actually done the 10 ambrosia, and 6 bonds
I've forged a bond with 4 olympian gods, with persephone, cerberus and hades.
Is just bad luck, really
does a bond for at max heart or just at the favor
max
idk mate
doesnt sound like bad luck cause hes getting generic lines, hes probably missing something
The favor is literally just gift 10 ambrosia total
and 6 bonds
that
just keep gifting ambrosia i guess, if you actually done the 6 bonds
But I've gifted 10
Also this is like stupid common for achilles quest for example
i dont have a better solution lol
Or the total extreme case of someone who spent like 3 months getting gilga
Sometimes the dialogue system just ???
you shouldnt be getting generic dialogue if you have something queued
In an ideal world yeah 
the problem here is we dont know they actually met the requirements, we just take it at their word
I can send a pic that I have the bonds forged
and from that u could calculate how much ambrosia I've given
you have no reason to lie lol, i really dont know whats going on then, bad luck i suppose
but it should be 4 for 4 olympian gods, 3 for cerberus, 3 for persephone which is 10
I love when skelly goes up to Hades and says Hadeez nuts
Such a power move
Truly peak fiction
Can I find somewhere in depth (more than available on https://hades.fandom.com/wiki/Hell_Mode) information about how Hell Mode differs from regular play in Hades?
thats basically all of it
i just got the best deal from the well of charon
40 hp
for a whole
0 old
gold
i mean theres no other difference other than mandatory pact conditions. it plays exactly the same otherwise
What about story elements? Any new dialogues? Does it change how the game unveils itself?
I would like to play pretty much the same game, just with increased difficulty.
Also this point is a little unclear to me or I just simply don't remember:
bounties up to 25 heat instead of 20 heat in normal difficulty
What were bounties? The Erebus rooms?
Bounties are the boss drops
They go to 25 now to make up for the forced 5 heat
Killing the boss for the first time gives drop > increasing heat refreshes them > caps at 20 for normal mode
Oh, so those didn't reset at heat > 20? I didn't know, I only got to 16-17 heat IIRC, and once for the Skelly Statues.
Correct
Anything past 20 is for bragging rights basically
Namely 32 heat for the 3rd statue
But the rest of the game is all of the same story
Okay, so I shouldn't miss out on anything? That's great, thank you for the answers! :)
Beat full extreme measures first attempt :D (no other penalities tho)
if i change the than keepsake halfway through my run will the damage buff be removed?
yes
im stuck between using black shawl and pom blossom as my go to for my keepsake change after tarterous im using malphon gloves
im a pom blossom enjoyer
I'd use a god keepsake if I'm being honest
Or purse for extra poms/gods if you don't wanna use them
Mom pom in aspho is 1 pom
i do use athenas at the start but change after the fury sis
And by ely you'll prob have too many boons to get what you want pommed
But idk your boons so maybe you don't even have a good pom target 
How do I trigger being able to invite chaos into the epilogue dinner party thing?
need to have done chaos/nyx quest before the invitations I think
@analog thistle (abbreviations so I don't type out the entire names #h1-high-heat-strategies message )
I'd start with stuff like MM/HL1/EM1-2 as those are pretty free/fun
timer 1-2 depends on your runs but it goes pretty quickly to adjust to, 3 is harder but same thing
then going higher you can add stuff like BP1 or UC
yeah i beat heat 1 with the timer i guess i ll add the timer when i get to heat 3
avoid JS/CP/AP/RI
https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/KWc-jjxIVw2WtP3qq18b10VS9n2Osrmb1vpnUgoU4u0/https/i.imgur.com/UQgfOtx.png?format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1440&height=665 this focuses on building towards 32 heat eventually but is still pretty good
if you want to go even higher or speedrun at some point you can start practicing FO too
extreme measures gives dad an extra phase?
each lvl changes up to a certain boss
em1 is only furies, em2 is furies and lernie and so on
no that's extremER measures
love being carried by Merciful End btw
just got rail left to reach 32 then im done with hades 1 for now
yeah first time i got it i beat hades first try
first time i got to the fight even
em3 is the machine gun theseus and extra phase dad?
Em3 is theseus
not just extra phase, attack also change
yeah
hmm only have em3 i guess it unlocks later
yes
currently in a 4 streak, heat 27, lets see how long ap2 allows me to keep it up
good luck!
my best is 17 xD
AP2 will always pick what you want trust
damage control isnt that bad is it?
true rng, i dont reroll, nor use god keepsakes, so mote it be
is pretty annoying
horrible against slow weapons
it seems free but it really screws with a lot of burst damage stuff
ah
but fast weapons like rail or fist barely feel it
hestia
yeah hestia hates it
more often than not there's better options to take than dc
and you have to strip hearts before you can call a damage companion like battie
Damage control, calisthenics program & jury summons all have the issue of enemies live for longer so they have more chances to kill you and every room just takes longer so your run is more of a draggg. It also negative combos with every other pact option harder than anything else due to dragging out how long and how often you’ll be affected by those other heat options

for a good portion of weapons dc either doubles or triples the time to kill, and even on ones where it doesn’t it’s still prolonging every enemies life
Damage control essentially gives every enemy in game a minicopy of the strongest defensive keepsake 
hey, sorry if this is the wrong place, i cant seem to get posidens favor to trigger? ive talked to him while holding a fish, talked to him after i fished that run, both first time encounters. but he still wont trigger it for me. anything i might be missing?
Have you tripped the catching 18 fish trigger?
Otherwise it’s Hades rng dialogue™️
ive caught 80ish fish, i hope so
reminds me of the nyx roulette
whats the dialogue for that trigger
You may just be suffering from rng dialogue
well there's always more titan blood to pour
Does concentrated knuckle lose its effect once you lose the combo?
+5 base damage for each consecutive hit but I suppose the stack is lose when you lose the combo of it might just shred bosses?
Anyway I'm taking explosive upper even though I'm on the paws
once the combo ends it resets afaik
Zeus shield vs Demeter fists for merciful end?
probs shield
I tried both but with the shield the enemies keep moving when I hit them with my ares attack
It shreds bosses tho
¯_(ツ)_/¯
whatever works for you because ME is so strong
it goes away if you dash strike lmao
i think it only works if you just only attack
that being said Zeus shield with all Zeus is really fast to start working
that's one of the better hammers for gilga lmao
3rd best basically
both work but fists is a lot easier
fists is just dash striking, zeus shield needs you to juggle the special somewhat well to actually get value out of ME
BRO NO WAY HADES SUMMONED THE BLOODY TELEPORTING 3 SHOT BASTARDS
I was almost sure bastard was going to get censored
HE HEALS??????!
famous last words
Now we wait
Also I hate that the pillars hitbox is so jank
I'm just turning on invincibility at this point I'm clearly behind the pillars but the laser still hits me
I might try and take a screenshot to show you
I can't WHY DID THE LASER PUSH MY AWAY
Dad doesn't like hugs
Is this em4
Oh wait I get it
It's hitting the further hitbox of the pillar and even though the pillar does stop the laser if you stand too close to that spot you still get hit
someone's gonna hear peak music soon i hope
So basically you shouldn't hug the pillar
there's an exploit with normal dad where you can stand on top of him and not get hit with lasers
so the pushback on em4 fixes that lmao
Yep I know he has a phase 3 but I didn't really pay attention to his extra moves
so thats your issue, yeah the knock does go thru the pillar
but the knockback itself doesnt do any dmg
Look at all this underworld security research 👀
I’m fairly certain it’s a matter of the attack immediately following the combo not coming back fast enough
dashin resets it tho
I’m assuming it’s programmed the same way as concentrated volley, which allows continual stacking through multiple when you have epic or heroic swift flourish
when ordinarily you can’t due to the time interval inbetween
I was talking about the standing strike combo, of which concentrated knuckle applies to.
I could try a few attempts at trying for a heroic swift strike vanilla to see if it would be possible
Playing H2 made me want to start up H1 again; I just started a completely fresh file a few minutes ago and just made it past Meg with 4HP... which is incredible because my first-ever playthru, I died almost immediately and it took me several runs to make it past Meg
The game is so much easier when you're already familiar with all the boons and mechanics
Semicolon 👀
What happoened
Coming back things r a lot easier fr
I just started a new save file like a week ago coming out of a Hades hiatus and I cleared ~escape attempt 8
It’s no true fresh file but
It's a freesh avockadoo
Wow!! I think my very first time playing it took me hmmm about 35 attempts. Hoping to... beat that lol.
Escape attempt 8 also happened to coincide with when I unlocked aspects so I had my zag bow to keep me company
Starting over completely fresh because I originally played Hades on the Switch and now I'm on the Steam Deck so I lost all my original progress/runs
God I miss the bow. That was my fave weapon
I mean cross saves exist but yeah
From Switch to Steam?
Yeah
Omg. I didn't know that. I didn't even think to check because I'm so used to my Switch games not being cross-compatible with anything
yes
I mean the hammers were perfect but anything else was dubious
Indeed
Is the armour destroying one the best
Yes
Breaching cross is easily the top fists hammer flat out
It’s like dedge, no competition
Dedg?
Double edge for sword
Whats the second?
for
Gilga
Rending
Actually I'm sure it's the main buff
Breaching Cross is such a sick hammer
Maim is real in speed
Maim weak and boiling blood extra damage stack is pretty nutty I think
Very slow Doom
Yeah but it’s 50% more damage taken on the least survivable fist aspect
Is it additive or multiplicative?
additive
Oh
more damage taken*
Sadge.... I was kinda balling with gilga
Cleanest Hades battle yesterday
I really need to be in the zone to play good
Mostly the extra dashes and the autodash I like
Makes it slightly less predictable without good grasp but I like
It's funny
But Demeter is kinda funnier
Aside from survivability though gilga kinda shreds
Ih yeah
The issue with gilga survivability is reduced dash range, increased dash cooldown and slower dash strikes all come together to bite you in the bum
as well as increased dmg from the upper special
I suppose the extra dashes do t have a continuous I frame when you hold it down
The dashes do, dash strikes don't, as usual
They mean like if you hold down dash
is it one complete iframe over your 4 dashes or 4 individual ones that end and start at somepoint
Don't they not have iframes??
Oh idk the exact I know I tend to be untouchable with gilga
Their question is about the qualities of autodash and empty dash iframes combined together
Idk
Yeah idk either
I actually wish I could the disable the whole hold thing with gilga
how do i gain aphrodite's favor? do i have to romance both than and meg? i googled it and found conflicting answers
From the wiki
Aphrodite's favor requires Zagreus to illustrate his capacity for love, both platonically and passionately, by forging bonds with Dusa, Thanatos and Megaera (you will trigger 1 dialogue with the goddess for each bond you forge with them and a 4th one to actually get the favor).
yes but another reddit thread says that wiki must be wrong and you have to romance them both so i wanted to confirm 😄
Heh, Reddit
No, you don't have to romance anybody. Just build bonds
Oh how I hate "romance" as verb
You don't like to romance packrat?
I just really dislike the word. It conveys to me a connotation of something kinda shallow and vain, I suppose
Well yeh, reach the yes or no point
ok ty
The wiki is good in terms of info, just gotta get past the 3 hundred ads
The leadership of Fandom need to be tied to chairs and forced to watch ads
My bf ditched me on my birthday because of "college and stuff" (we're in the same college and we're past the test season, so IT'S NOT AN EXCUSE). He gave me a lovely gift, but I'm still a little sore after that. What Hades quote do I use to get back at him?
HRRRRRNNGGGGHHHHH
...
And, next…
Denied. And out with you.
Hello :) I've been playing Hades (first one) for 13 hours now and I've just beaten Hades for the 4th time. Damn, he whoops my ass. Any tips for a newbie? :D
this is Hades 1 buddy I promise :(
how do we know is hades 1
I edited it to make it clearer, but I would've said Hades 2 if I was playing the second (which I'm not)
im still not sure
?
Stahp, Detective CarrotGuy! You're scaring the witness!
Fight near the big rocks in the sides of the arena, keep the 💀 population under control, understand that Dashes give iframes but Dash-Strikes do not, etc. etc.
Say hi to your shade fan
Is just a joke since some people complain about the bot, when the bot is just spamming the same message regardless, is not targeted at all
Sorry I didn't know if it was a joke 💀
im going to romance StickyBot
StickyBot's too good for you
i went back to hades 1 for a break to do the orpheus quest and realized it also has the statue challenges Q___Q
Yo, i just got a yt short on my feed talking about like the aspects or whatever, thr upgraded weapon things. How come i dont have them unlocked? In the wiki it says u unlock them after owning all weapons and having 1 beast blood. I have beaten hades already once and ive gotten up to hades on every weapon but i havent unlocked the aspect things
have you talked to skelly?
Yeah evey time he has a thing above his head
But like shouldent i have unlocked the aspects like AGES ago?
if you unlocked all weapons and got a titanblood yea
Considering ive gotten every beast blood on every weapon and even some with heat xd
ages ago yea
I dont think my friend has them either hes fought hades many times not yet beaten tho
i think i havent gotten the secret aspects tho myself xD
Just to be sure, you have tried interacting with your equipped weapon in the courtyard right
How
Go near the placeholder of your currently equipped weapon and see if the interact button pops up
I havent done that
Also i cant give the better elixir things to any1 yet either
I have so many of them
I have 6 hearts with aphrodite artemis meg and the snake thing
You need to open the lock for a character first
Aka a favor/quest
Most of them are just keep talking/playing, a few of them are tied to prophecies/a few more specific
They are all on the wiki
so if my dialogue for reaching the surface with a hidden aspect was overridden by a different bit of dialogue can i do another run with the aspect and still get it?
man this is such a comfort game i am glad there is so much difficult content so i can play this for months to come probably ❤️
really glad i discovered this genre
I'm watching Haelian's vid on H1's best/worst hammers and he's using Skelly to showcase hammers. Is he using a mod for that? Or a hack? Or is it possible to do in-game through a secret debug mode?
Mod
It’s likely codex mod
yeah probably codex mod
Ahh yeah I just found it on Nexus. Thanks
Do I trust Haelian here or do I watch the video 
What I didn't understand right now is the secret aspects are unlocked not by their own weapons? I just did the conditions with the bow and then Achilles told me about the secret spear aspect? O.o
You need Guan-Yu before you can get any others
Aha I see
Now will I get the bow one next time I come back?
If you hadn’t had Guan-Yu unlocked you didn’t get the waking phrase
Did artemis merely comment on your use of the bow?
Ok so I have to get another 3 Titan blood and unlock it and then Artemis will talk
Nope
Yeah she did
Oh ok
Dw about the 3 titan blood
So Artemis will talk to me now about the bow?
You’re going to need the “waking” phrase now
Yes I am going to need someone to tell me it
Well it’s the same npc as the first phrase you need in every case
Achilles
no
Like bow needs artemis
you get her to comment on the bow usage then you get the waking phrase from her
Yes then she will have to talk to me
Yeah, sorry for the confusion
I should probably equip her trinket then for better chances?
Yeah forcing her in should give you a better shot
i mean if he rates stuff on a fun factor then it's gonna be a bit skewed lmao
but if he doesnt then it's probably fine
That’s my worry
i can see him saying world splitter is fun which can be funny at times tbf
Because last time someone used a Haelian tierlist it was a fun factor rating and I got “Haelian rated chiron high” when they completely missed his disclaimer and own words
lmao it do be like that

“even if they were, who are we to determine that? haelian put chiron and chaos in s tier in his aspect tier list, u think u know better than him? i wouldnt proclaim to, i cant even beat 50 heat”
Am i missing something abt the trippy shot hype
Yes and No
Its so slow so by the time it lands the enemy is gone
aim better it's good for enemies that are spawning in or ones that dont move too much
but otherwise it's kinda whatever
unless you get ice wine
It depends on where you’re seeing trippy shot hype/what context
😭 shii my fault

that last run i had may have been the last time i play this game again im so livid
i wanna spike my controller so bad
Ermm everyone on reddit saying they love it
Legit youre the first one saying anything other than its amazing
job done
i had literally the best run ive had in a long while, im like 8 or 9 runs since i last escaped
i had so many good boons and a great strategy going on
i enter the final fight with all 3 death defiances and full health
AND I LOSE
it do be like that
i cant handle this anymore
It happens
reddit is notorius for not being right lmao
Reddit is the 2nd last place you want to go for hades gameplay info, the very last being a dr. Seuss book and the 3rd last being any gaming article
aphrodite
I’d take aphro for consistency but I’m not a habitual hestia gamer
consistency is better
Either way you put the other goddess on special iirc
Reddit is the type to argue with a WR-setting player
85% of the time you deal no damage, 15% of the time you overkill
arty atk is only good if you have chaos buffs
I mean I argue with Jazz sometimes
Ive seen some people run shackle the entire run too, doesnt that fall off after tartarus
…
I’m biased
LIKE HOW DO PEOPLE CLEAR 50+ HEAT WITH NO KEEPSAKE FOR LAST FIGHT
?
kinda yes and no, depends on the context
just dont get hit lol
Cuz its used up on shackle
bai beat 64 with earring going into em4
Maybe im just bad
unmodded i believe
Oh my bad i meant like tooth or acorn
yeah but acorn is just damage reduction like
At boonless you need the damage to end the fight so you don’t take the hits
so you run shackle
Mmm ig
idk how ppl get good at this
i turn on any heat and im washed
WOAH
a lot of practice and runs lmao
Me too bro 😭
just raged over a 2 heat run and ppl out here just casually doing way more
I’m no 50 heat gamer, I capped out at 40 with regular builds
and 32 with shackle
i have like 535 hours in the game and most of it was speedrunning and high heat lmao
i mean it's been like 3-4 years
Bro i have 300 and i have a single completely lucked out 32 heat win ..
i just got this a few months ago i think
have you tried pushing yourself to new/higher goals after that lmao
Nah ts scarred me
bc you improve my pushing yourself, not doing what's comfortable
Ill be playing on sub 10 heat for now
my goal was just to like
do everything
i dont need to beat the hardest stuff ever but like
Uhh ill use trying to get epilogue as my excuse to play low heat
i wanna get all the stuff done
sure
like aspects and upgrades
and like maxing out all the relationships and keepsakes
im sure theres stuff ive never seen too
apparently theres a whole nother area i havent unlocked
and like
key holes in the little case thing
idk whats that about
ill learn eventually
It’s not true boonless but most of what I do aren’t the true versions of their respective challenges
oh maybe i should revist my boonless 40 beowulf from years ago that i never beat
Wait im not crazy i saw that ss on a yt video abt like analyzing player stats to find the best way to clear 32
possible haelian pulled it from the discord lmao
Hades youtube is the 4th last place you want to go for Hades info jnlesss it’s a speedrunner sending their technique vids

Snall world
Yeah its mostly for entertainmrnt
i did my first 32 heat long before i started trying speed or heat
Definitely
ik besides like, just do runs or something
Hold on I got a great pair of photos
what's your mirror
and pacts do you normally run
and what aspects or whatever are you gonna use
how in depth do i need to go
or wait
can i post a pic?
Just imbed a screenshot
ok hang on
you’ll need to send it as an image link
What the
i didn't want to use a high heat screenshot bc i dont want to explain SD over DD lmao
First time ive seen chaos go above 50% for a buff
Swap olympian favour
115 is crazy
?!? He often does
Like
More often than not
REALLY 🤣
special has a higher base % than attack
like the heat things?
common shot barely hits 50% at max iirc, common attack max is like 60% prob lmao
Swap olympian favour to dark foresight, god’s legscy to prid
Yes
yeah
i kinda just turn on the enemy damage or heal reduction
im only doing a max of 2 or 3 rn tho
that's fine
Those are solid starter pacts
my favorites are aspect of chaos, chiron, and demeter/talos usually
You know what
those are just my favorite aspects for my favorite weapons to use
1/4 is pretyy solid
Yeah
Let me put it this way
“even if they were, who are we to determine that? haelian put chiron and chaos in s tier in his aspect tier list, u think u know better than him? i wouldnt proclaim to, i cant even beat 50 heat”
Is a quote I literally just used to make a point about people blindly watching Haelians tierlist video
chaos is good bc it's a shield, not bc the gimmick is good
whats wrong with chiron? obviously im not an expert so i would have 0 clue but the homing special seems really good
single target damage is alright but just takes forever to actually go through with bc of the long special animation
it’s slow and the single target dps doesn’t warrant it being so single target and slow
also i have not watched a single video on hades, i just wanted to preface that
havent watched any videos, no online lists
nothing
Yeah but what I was saying was… those aren’t good aspects
W/ my “let me put it this way”
this is like my first time asking or learning any advice on this game besides a personal friend lol, i try to keep myself blind to it in that sense yk
👍
i get you
so what are some better aspects?
Well for bow
any other shield and bow for chaos and chiron lmfao
Chiron is the 4th best aspect
Same thing with Chaos for shield
4th best aspect there
does that just mean worst
Yeah but “4th best shield aspect” is where I’m angling from
not by that much tho lmao
The mile and kilometer was a bit more point at chiron tbf
whats the best
imagine if zag shield applied to cshot projectile
beowulf for everything under 50 heat, zeus for above 50 
idk
Speed:
Sword - Nem
Spear - Achilles
Shield - Beowulf
Bow - Hera
Fist - Demeter
Rail - Eris
Heat:
Sword - Nem
Spear - Guan-Yu
Shield - Zeus
Bow - Rama
Fists - Demeter
Rail - Hestia
thats cool
Note Hestia & Eris are interchangable until you hit the more challenging levels of their respective fields
so when you say heat
does that apply to the 2 heat i currently use
or is it more like
that list for "heat" is like past 40 lmao
Heat as in like 40+ yeah
yea thats what i assumed
They have a better job at handling the higher heats
i probably wont ever be at that point but thats still good to know
I mean zeus and hestia are equally as valid
at low heat
for the same purposes
Insanely safe aspects
i like those speed aspects ive used
i really do not like using the gun thing
but the other things i liked doing
rail often has a little something for everyone
i always felt like if i stopped to fire it i would get hit
and usually that happened lol
you just need to find it or sometimes get proded in the right direction
i never felt that for the bow either
?
That’s odd
its probably just me not understanding how best to use it
Take it in the firing range and try hold down attack and dashing around at the same time
but like getting into elysium so much of my time was just dashing around and firing like 2 shots before dashing a bunch again and i wasnt enjoying it
im sure i could learn it tho
thanks for the list tho
I think this is the first thing you can do
for rail
to see what’s up
and i will change those mirror things once i get some more darkness and max them out
Just hold down attack and start dashing in the range
i will try that
BEST DEMETER ATK BOON?
Ares, zeus clocks in second and dionysus in third
Wait really
oh
Doesnt doom not stack
Have you ever heard of merciful end
ME my beloved
Erm
i also wanted to ask the best keepsake?
thats the last thing ill ask i promise i dont mean to be so annoying about it
For tartarus and asphodel it’s the 2 gods that you’ll focus on in your build
the doom cast thingy saved me like a billion times
Dont you wanna abuse the atk speed on fists tho
And since merciful end works on other weapons too
Nah you just dash strike enemies like other melee weapons
thank you
Standing around is time spent lossing dps
Wait ds procs me????
ill try to get better with it
Ive beeb attacking and dashing into them 😭😭😭
And ds will proc it is what ur saying
Man
That makes so much more sense
Yoy need to apply the first doom before it works tho right
The other builds are zeus strike -> aphro special -> zeus or dionysus call -> smouldering air.
Find static dischargr
Your dash strike hits before your divine dash
For duo boon setups do i run the duo/lehendary mirror upgrade
Or keep epic chance
For dionysus it’s
Dio strike -> aphro special -> low tolerance. Pom special
Maybe find curse of vengeance from ares for curse of nausea.
Maybe zeus call for smouldering air
Epic chsne
Yo i need to ss these and try them
Ive been exclusively doing zeus atk and artemis special
Epic chance is important not only for your core gods, but also hermes and chaos who regularly have nerfed rarity
Oh yeah that too is chaos a no brainer take every time
Rarity goes super far on chaos, and epic greatest reflex or epic rush delivery after hyper sprint is a mega huge boost
99% of the time
The 1% is when the other option is a story room or other skip
Whats a story room
like if I have to pick between a chaos boon or touch of styx dark
Or when ap2 and no rerolls in elysium 
I’m not acknowledging the possibility that we have a 3rd deranged person onthe server
Im civilized so i only take ap2 for +50 heat
I’m civilized so I’d rather step in magma after a lernie fight to reset my spent sd than run ap
Sd? Im assuming ap is aproval process
Oh yeah i did that too for all of asphodel if i was below 30%
spent sd 
Yes.
AFTER THE CHAMBER IM NOT THAT DUMB
I said what I said.
Sd better for high heat then
Yeah usually
Due to my speed and heat play I gotta say undamaged
Undamaged for most aspects since it makes tart go by a lot faster
Although if you’re on a fast hitting aspect it may be better to just go with shadow presence
Demeter 👅
depends on if the special is wieldy enough
zeus strike -> aphro special -> zeus or dionysus call -> smouldering air.
Find static discharge, more zeus boons, pom static discharge 🥰
getting used to the achilles spear is hard
Whats smoldering air do?
idk when to do the rush and when to call back lol
Your call charges to 25% in 5 seconds but maxes at 25%
Oooo i remember playing achiles with hunting blades
Turn brain off rly fun
Minicalling is already better dos than waiting for a big one this just speeds up the proces
And spam it even if it isnt max gauge?
Ah
Your max gauge is now 25%
Understood
A regular minicall
I usually dont get my duo i want even afyer elysium so i give up and cry
I think you’ll be ok 👍
They aren’t super rare
I have a lot of screenshots of 3-5 duos and legendaries that I keep as an “anti god’s legacy” propaganda folder
To show that yes, you can get a large amount of duo boons without the duo boosting upgrade
And in turn
You can get 1 duo boon a whole ton more than that
Hm
My dumb luck
Ik rolling more than once is bad but i cant resist the possibilty to get what i want
And then it fails and i have no dice left
I almost never use rolls on regular olympians
My rolls are always for hermes, chaos, wells and purging pools
It’s a regular recommendation I’d make to people trying for heat and speed
Of course
There are times where you reroll god boons
When you really need something
But otherwise, hyper sprint -> rush delivery is absolutely massive
A proper chaos boon tailored for your aspect can be massive
being abl to get ichors for more movement speed for hyper delivery, being able to buy extra casts and cast damage or special/attack damage
being able to possibly sell a core I really don’t want
Oh so you soemtimes take a core and plan to just purge it after boss
NEVER THOUGHT OF THAT
Yeah
The other purging thing is the less pommable boons you have
The more likely poms will be able to hit the ones you want them too
If you actually look closely
I have next to no pommable secondary boons here
Or wait that might be a bit more than I counted initially
This may be the wrong ss
This is what I wanted
The other screenshot had a lot of pommable boons but it has sweet nectar to double the pom rewards so it wasn’t really what I meant
Fs fs
Iirc broken resolve can’t be pommed so that’s a total of 4 pommable boons
3/4 times I could pom drunken strike
DAMN yoy even know what isnt pommable
…what 400 hours in Hades and more hours than that talking about Hades does to a dude
broke resolve just makes sense to not be pommable in my head given it’s bonus damage reduction on something that’s already a massive amount of damage reduction
Nah cuz why do i know so little with 300 hours in
Letting that get pommed would be insane
and aside from that, every other boon I have is either a chaos boon, a hammer, a duo, one of my 3 cores, or curse of vengeance
And so the 3 cores and CoV can be pommed
But you can’t pom hammers or duos
Or hermes boons
Don’t @ me with a clip of lvl10 swift strike from codex mod
Dawg idek what that is
I should start telling players this is real vanila footage
LOL
Everything odd about this is codex mod
Mod
Leveling up swift strike, having flurry slash in courtyard, having swift strike in courtyard
How to get mod
I believe the common way is thru nexus mods
If you go to nexus there should be a guide
🫡
Hades modding server can probablt just hijack your computer remotely and do the installation for you
I mean what?
I would like to avoid that
Disclaimer: I have no clue if they could do that
I just wanted to hyperbolate their skills
Even if they could they wouldnt waste the time to lol
I wonder how would be if a God had to help both Theseus and Zagreus at the same time
"Am I a joke to you?"
Ask Artem-
I mean, it makes me laugh when Hades has to deal with the greater help from Zeus.
i finally got another win
W
Y'all I just beat the post game for Hades. What do I do now?
It feels weird finally finishing the game
has H1 finished development?
hades 1 has been done for like 4 years lmao
pity
It would be weird for them to already have 2 out while working on 1 lol
holy ground feels like it should deny poison pools left by the rats
true but poison pools aren't traps
if they were traps, poison on hs would absolutely suck
i swear i look away for 1 run and i find myself with 5 bottles of ambrosia
the trick is to not use arthur
can anyone recommand me an aspect/build
urgh hestia hurts my hands
arthur with artemis strike
don't have it lol
chiron with dionysus special
okay and things to pick up too?
should i just use it in it's base form?
it's level one atm
you should probably upgrade it if you can
use all or
up to you really
depends on how much you actually like that aspect
i didn't get special what do i get?
how do you mean
Aphrodite attack and Dionysus special would be how I'd approach a Chiron bow build
i just get special and holy hades did my damage icrease
how do i play rail without having to worry about the special or reloading?
yep, dionysus special on chiron be like that
i mean
the rail special is very important, and a big part of your damage
as for reloading, i suppose you could get delta chamber
but better to just cultivate a habit of constantly pressing the reload button whenever you're not actively shooting
it hurts my finger
Can't quite go ignoring literally the two functions of rail. Try rebinding the Reload
but if you keep doing it, eventually your finger will be strengthened and won't hurt anymore
Or your finger will literally die 
kinda learning the bow though
I mean build is good, high damage
But the survibility kinda sucks
not really sure what to tell you here
there are certain habits you just have to learn in order to play rail effectively
**** the rail
Isn't the rail a good weapon?
yes
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Hestia was mention here
Anyways gotta get used to playing bow, I can see the potential
Yeah bow takes some getting used to, but it's worth it
much prefer bow myself
Hestia = bestia
You're new or?
i'm doing 32 heats on all weapons
rn i'm done with Zag Fists/Rama Bow/Zeus Shield/Nem Sword/Achilles Spear
Achilles is a very strong castpect
Me?
Merciful end
If I equip Thanatos’ keepsake for Tartarus, and then change to a different one for the rest of the run, do I still get the bonus damage from his keepsake?
nah the bonus goes away
Does hades mobile exist?
yep, through netflix and only on ios
If you know someone who’s willing to share their Netflix password with you, you can play
I have Netflix
Ohh
Not on iOS though
I think you might be able to still log in
Can't find it in playstore
Dead Cells?
Actually Chiron bow can stack with many different dot lol
What's the best aspect?
Like for all weapons
Depends on speed/heat
Here's the table I guess
#h1-builds-and-combat message
Not exactly a table but y'know
Wow Chiron not even there
It doesn't scale well for high heat and speedruns apparently
Nah at my current level I just want progression and titan bloodd
just pick whatever you like tbh
the difference between 20 heat and 32 heat is pretty big
32 Heat all weapons!
(not all aspects)
time to put hades 1 in storage again
man what a fun game
until next time
until next time
Yo where do you find that? :)
I swear I've beaten Hades 5 times, but when I check my weapons (mainly been using the shield) it says 4. Is that the official way to know how many times I've beaten Hades?
you need a special chamber
Oh yeah now I look it's the special administration one
yeah
I need 2 diamonds for it 😔
lots of plot left for you
I've only been playing for 13.1 hours according to Steam 
I am StickyBot I promise 
steam says i have 393 hrs, but i also have it on the switch 
more than 200 hours for me
yeah, combined gotta be at least 500 hrs for me
have to block stickybot or else you can't see h2-feedback normally lol
'YES I GET IT'
just went a whole run without a single chaos gate, can't remember when's the last time that happened
Guys I accidentally made a sword built that does 1500 DMG PER HIT
