#h1-discussion

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inner wind
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God it takes so long to restart a run cuz everythings set in stone

neat cedar
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Does anybody like the splash attack? It seems really bad

grand glade
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The strike or the dash?

tepid plover
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Ain't nonway this is happening

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You can only get 2 Hermes in a reward rooms, so the game will most likely keep offering until those 2 spots are taken

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Same goes for hammers

inner wind
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They kept showing up and I didnt once see Zeus of Aphro

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Despite me having both equip

tepid plover
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And you wanna guess why you can only get 2? Yeah, he's def something you wanna have

inner wind
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Except I dont

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I want the ones I equip

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If i want hermes. Ill equip hermes

tepid plover
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Well anyway, there's no way you didn't see a single room of the keepsake you equipped

inner wind
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I did

tepid plover
inner wind
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I didnt see a single one

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Im just telling you what happened dude IDK what else to say

tepid plover
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If you say so then

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Must be playing on a different game version than mine, and like everyone else then

inner wind
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Idk what to tell you

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Im not lying

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The game just kept giving me hermes or posiedon over and over as the only two that showed up

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I equip the dionysus one in the third area to test it and he showed up

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But zeus and aphro never did

tepid plover
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Yeah weird

neat cedar
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I can't think of a situation where you'd want it

grand glade
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Ye it's pretty bad

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I only use it with razor shoals on bow

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Too keep enemies away while damaging them

tepid plover
neat cedar
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The only use I found for it is on Lucifer because it looks like a super soaker

grand glade
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lmao

rustic vale
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Homie

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Take your hermes

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You only get 2 (3 from styx 50:50) boons from him and they can be super valuable

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Pushing him away is just asking for him to come back

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It’s like skipping Hammers and being surprised when they show back up

inner wind
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Yea but if im specifically searching for one god I dont want him to keep showing up

rustic vale
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yeah so you take his boons

inner wind
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The only things I ever take from him are the sturdy dash or the bonus dash

rustic vale
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to get him out of the way

inner wind
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It just feels like a waste

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I want power upgrades not speed

rustic vale
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Rush delivery is a power upgrade directly tied to hyper sprint (sturdy dash)

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And greatest reflex (extra dashes) is directly a power upgrade on multiple weapons

tepid plover
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if you take 2 of his boons, he will stop showing, not taking him will just keep wasting a potential door

rustic vale
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so avoiding him is just going to have him show back up again

tepid plover
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same reason you wanna fill up your core boons even if you dont wanna use the boon

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in the case of hermes, hes almost always useful anyway so isnt like youre full on wasting the room

rustic vale
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His boons are so valuable that I & most people I know save their rerolls just for him

tepid plover
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yep

rustic vale
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so they can get hyper sprint -> rush delivery or greatest reflex

tepid plover
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my god do i love to see side hustle on the tartarus shop

rustic vale
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I love rush delivery styx shop clutching up where I didn’t get it second boon tizomg

tepid plover
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preferably if its a free hermes before furies, which rarely happens, but is so nice

rustic vale
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or greater haste to just boost the hyper sprint that little bit more (thnx to movespeed being multiplicative and rush delivery boosting global additive by that % of your bonus movespeed)

grand glade
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Dude even politely asks you to wait for the keepsake god sometimes when he shows up instead lol

tepid plover
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i still find it very suspicious you went thru an entire area and didnt see your god once

rustic vale
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Eh I mean you try outrunning hermes and you have to learn the hard way where that gets you

inner wind
tepid plover
inner wind
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I will next time

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I managed to get a static discharge run again which I just wrapped up lol

west mist
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got a spear run going with athena ares 🙏 merciful end carry me please

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i was looking through the admin records to see what i set my fastest spear time on too, its was merciful end again

tepid plover
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man is been ages since ive seen an anvil, game hates me

brisk zephyr
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what do yall think of a chiron poseidon special build?

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i got sweet nectar but idk what other boons/duo boons i should get

tepid plover
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im not a huge fan of poseidon outside of dash or call

mint coral
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Is not the worst

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Pos has the second highest % on special for whatever reason

brisk zephyr
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ive noticed its only really good with smaller enemies since bosses dont get knocked back

mint coral
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So get the usual concentrated volley then you can go sea storm for some extra dmg (and add more zeus)

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Is still chiron at the end of the day but it works

mint coral
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This is how you get that weird dad glitch with breaking wave

brisk zephyr
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id rather not do dionysus again that makes he game easy

rustic vale
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You’ll end up knocking enemies out of range of the rest of the arrows

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And while poseidons special +% is nice, if you want +% on chiron special any +% goddess will do better

brisk zephyr
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would artemis be good?

rustic vale
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due to the amount of hits going off, your avg shot has a decent chance of at least one arrow critting, so it's a pretty sweet average damage boost as long as you source additive from elsewhere

brisk zephyr
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what duo boons should i prioritize then?

rustic vale
brisk zephyr
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is that it?

rustic vale
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or deadly reversal via taking athena strike but I'd recommend the former

rustic vale
brisk zephyr
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would flurry shot be a good idea?

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easier shots to execute plus i could crit on reg attack

rustic vale
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flurry shot is easily a third pick on chiron after concentrated and relentless volley

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flurry shot doesn't let you crit

brisk zephyr
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Theres only 2 hammers per run right?

rustic vale
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yeah

brisk zephyr
rustic vale
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when I say third pick I mean

brisk zephyr
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third best?

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option

rustic vale
# brisk zephyr oof

I mean, the flurry shot hammer doesn't do anything to affect your crit chance

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yes

brisk zephyr
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cool

rustic vale
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so "I could crit on reg attack" just has nothing to do with flurry shot

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concentrated volley > relentless > flurry shot > zag hammer tier order

brisk zephyr
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What should i get for like cast, call and dash

rustic vale
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whatever fits and doesn't get in your way of finding heart rend

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once you have heart rend, feel free to put zeus on call and posiedon on dash

west mist
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welp, didn't get ME in time and died to theseus

brisk zephyr
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cool

rustic vale
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I’d been completely ignoring it but the most common chiron build is actually hangover iirc

brisk zephyr
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Would that like get sea storm or does that only apply to poseidon special and zeus attack or vise virsa

rustic vale
tepid plover
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I have fought alecto 7 times in a row, now what are the odds of that

near gazelle
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can anyone help me figure out something

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my hades 1 hsa black bars on top and bottom

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whenever i set it to my monitors resolution 1900x1200

tepid plover
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i dont see 1900x1200 in the settings

near gazelle
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is your monitor 1900x1200

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because its definitel a setting on mine

tepid plover
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i meant in game settings

near gazelle
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yeah

tepid plover
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you have 1900x1200 in your game settings?

near gazelle
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id send an image

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yes

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im looking at it right now

tepid plover
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and when you set it to that you get the black bars?

near gazelle
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yea

tepid plover
peak zealot
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Is getting the dialogue from dionysus that unlocks his affinity gauge rare, since I've gifted at least 10 ambrosia and have forged 7 bonds with people and talked to him like 7 times now, but haven't gotten it. Or is there some other requirement for it I don't know of?

mint coral
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bad luck

peak zealot
# mint coral bad luck

I keep getting the dialogues where he says he'll give me a boon to help me with escaping

tepid plover
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if someone else can help mangokip pls do

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sounds like generic dialogue, which shouldnt happen if youre correct in meeting the requirements

peak zealot
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Do I have to collect an amborisa in a run and then talk to dionysus to get the affinity gauge unlocked?

peak zealot
tepid plover
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idk mate, only think i can ask you is to make sure youve actually done the 10 ambrosia, and 6 bonds

peak zealot
mint coral
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Is just bad luck, really

tepid plover
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does a bond for at max heart or just at the favor

tepid plover
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idk mate

tepid plover
mint coral
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The favor is literally just gift 10 ambrosia total

tepid plover
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and 6 bonds

tepid plover
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just keep gifting ambrosia i guess, if you actually done the 6 bonds

mint coral
tepid plover
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i dont have a better solution lol

mint coral
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Or the total extreme case of someone who spent like 3 months getting gilga

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Sometimes the dialogue system just ???

tepid plover
mint coral
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In an ideal world yeah dusa

tepid plover
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the problem here is we dont know they actually met the requirements, we just take it at their word

peak zealot
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and from that u could calculate how much ambrosia I've given

tepid plover
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you have no reason to lie lol, i really dont know whats going on then, bad luck i suppose

peak zealot
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but it should be 4 for 4 olympian gods, 3 for cerberus, 3 for persephone which is 10

tepid plover
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just gift some more

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fish

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yes

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should at least

brisk trail
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I love when skelly goes up to Hades and says Hadeez nuts

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Such a power move

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Truly peak fiction

odd reef
shadow heart
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i just got the best deal from the well of charon

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40 hp

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for a whole

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0 old

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gold

void vigil
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i mean theres no other difference other than mandatory pact conditions. it plays exactly the same otherwise

odd reef
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What about story elements? Any new dialogues? Does it change how the game unveils itself?
I would like to play pretty much the same game, just with increased difficulty.

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Also this point is a little unclear to me or I just simply don't remember:

bounties up to 25 heat instead of 20 heat in normal difficulty

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What were bounties? The Erebus rooms?

mint coral
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Bounties are the boss drops

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They go to 25 now to make up for the forced 5 heat

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Killing the boss for the first time gives drop > increasing heat refreshes them > caps at 20 for normal mode

odd reef
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Oh, so those didn't reset at heat > 20? I didn't know, I only got to 16-17 heat IIRC, and once for the Skelly Statues.

mint coral
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Correct

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Anything past 20 is for bragging rights basically

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Namely 32 heat for the 3rd statue

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But the rest of the game is all of the same story

odd reef
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Okay, so I shouldn't miss out on anything? That's great, thank you for the answers! :)

hollow wraith
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Beat full extreme measures first attempt :D (no other penalities tho)

fallen grail
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if i change the than keepsake halfway through my run will the damage buff be removed?

fallen grail
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im stuck between using black shawl and pom blossom as my go to for my keepsake change after tarterous im using malphon gloves

tepid plover
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im a pom blossom enjoyer

mint coral
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I'd use a god keepsake if I'm being honest

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Or purse for extra poms/gods if you don't wanna use them

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Mom pom in aspho is 1 pom

fallen grail
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i do use athenas at the start but change after the fury sis

mint coral
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And by ely you'll prob have too many boons to get what you want pommed

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But idk your boons so maybe you don't even have a good pom target bouldy

peak zealot
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How do I trigger being able to invite chaos into the epilogue dinner party thing?

mint coral
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need to have done chaos/nyx quest before the invitations I think

mint coral
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@analog thistle (abbreviations so I don't type out the entire names #h1-high-heat-strategies message )
I'd start with stuff like MM/HL1/EM1-2 as those are pretty free/fun

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timer 1-2 depends on your runs but it goes pretty quickly to adjust to, 3 is harder but same thing

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then going higher you can add stuff like BP1 or UC

analog thistle
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yeah i beat heat 1 with the timer i guess i ll add the timer when i get to heat 3

mint coral
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avoid JS/CP/AP/RI

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if you want to go even higher or speedrun at some point you can start practicing FO too

analog thistle
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extreme measures gives dad an extra phase?

mint coral
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each lvl changes up to a certain boss

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em1 is only furies, em2 is furies and lernie and so on

west mist
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love being carried by Merciful End btw

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just got rail left to reach 32 then im done with hades 1 for now

analog thistle
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first time i got to the fight even

analog thistle
west mist
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Em3 is theseus

tepid plover
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not just extra phase, attack also change

west mist
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Em4 is dad

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which overhauls the fight from the start

tepid plover
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yeah

analog thistle
tepid plover
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yes

west mist
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yeah its unlocked via EXTREMER MEASURES

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you'll get it eventually

tepid plover
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currently in a 4 streak, heat 27, lets see how long ap2 allows me to keep it up

west mist
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good luck!

tepid plover
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my best is 17 xD

tepid plover
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i dont have a choice lmao

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gambling build

west mist
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AP2 will always pick what you want trust

analog thistle
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damage control isnt that bad is it?

tepid plover
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true rng, i dont reroll, nor use god keepsakes, so mote it be

tepid plover
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horrible against slow weapons

west mist
analog thistle
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ah

tepid plover
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but fast weapons like rail or fist barely feel it

west mist
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hestia

tepid plover
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yeah hestia hates it

latent moon
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more often than not there's better options to take than dc

west mist
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and you have to strip hearts before you can call a damage companion like battie

rustic vale
# analog thistle damage control isnt that bad is it?

Damage control, calisthenics program & jury summons all have the issue of enemies live for longer so they have more chances to kill you and every room just takes longer so your run is more of a draggg. It also negative combos with every other pact option harder than anything else due to dragging out how long and how often you’ll be affected by those other heat options

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for a good portion of weapons dc either doubles or triples the time to kill, and even on ones where it doesn’t it’s still prolonging every enemies life

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Damage control essentially gives every enemy in game a minicopy of the strongest defensive keepsake bouldy

elfin cloud
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hey, sorry if this is the wrong place, i cant seem to get posidens favor to trigger? ive talked to him while holding a fish, talked to him after i fished that run, both first time encounters. but he still wont trigger it for me. anything i might be missing?

rustic vale
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Otherwise it’s Hades rng dialogue™️

elfin cloud
tepid plover
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reminds me of the nyx roulette

elfin cloud
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whats the dialogue for that trigger

tepid plover
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you talk to pos

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and praise the fates

rustic vale
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You may just be suffering from rng dialogue

elfin cloud
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lovely

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well, ill keep on trying then

west mist
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well there's always more titan blood to pour

cloud mist
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Does concentrated knuckle lose its effect once you lose the combo?

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+5 base damage for each consecutive hit but I suppose the stack is lose when you lose the combo of it might just shred bosses?

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Anyway I'm taking explosive upper even though I'm on the paws

tepid plover
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once the combo ends it resets afaik

hardy lantern
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Zeus shield vs Demeter fists for merciful end?

tepid plover
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probs shield

hardy lantern
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It shreds bosses tho

west mist
latent moon
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i think it only works if you just only attack

west mist
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that being said Zeus shield with all Zeus is really fast to start working

latent moon
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3rd best basically

latent moon
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fists is just dash striking, zeus shield needs you to juggle the special somewhat well to actually get value out of ME

tepid plover
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That moment you open a trove in asphodel and all the bloodless jump 3 screens away

cloud mist
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BRO NO WAY HADES SUMMONED THE BLOODY TELEPORTING 3 SHOT BASTARDS

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I was almost sure bastard was going to get censored

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HE HEALS??????!

twin thistle
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bouldy famous last words

mint coral
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Now we wait

cloud mist
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Also I hate that the pillars hitbox is so jank

tepid plover
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Pillars are fine for me

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Second person to complain about them today

cloud mist
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I'm just turning on invincibility at this point I'm clearly behind the pillars but the laser still hits me

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I might try and take a screenshot to show you

tepid plover
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Do you have a clip?

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Mmhm

cloud mist
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I can't WHY DID THE LASER PUSH MY AWAY

mint coral
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Dad doesn't like hugs

twin thistle
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Is this em4

cloud mist
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Oh wait I get it

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It's hitting the further hitbox of the pillar and even though the pillar does stop the laser if you stand too close to that spot you still get hit

west mist
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someone's gonna hear peak music soon i hope

cloud mist
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So basically you shouldn't hug the pillar

latent moon
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so the pushback on em4 fixes that lmao

cloud mist
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Yep I know he has a phase 3 but I didn't really pay attention to his extra moves

tepid plover
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so thats your issue, yeah the knock does go thru the pillar

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but the knockback itself doesnt do any dmg

jagged hamlet
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Look at all this underworld security research 👀

rustic vale
rustic vale
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I’m assuming it’s programmed the same way as concentrated volley, which allows continual stacking through multiple when you have epic or heroic swift flourish

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when ordinarily you can’t due to the time interval inbetween

rustic vale
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I could try a few attempts at trying for a heroic swift strike vanilla to see if it would be possible

inner pine
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Playing H2 made me want to start up H1 again; I just started a completely fresh file a few minutes ago and just made it past Meg with 4HP... which is incredible because my first-ever playthru, I died almost immediately and it took me several runs to make it past Meg

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The game is so much easier when you're already familiar with all the boons and mechanics

jagged hamlet
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Semicolon 👀

cloud mist
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What happoened

rustic vale
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I just started a new save file like a week ago coming out of a Hades hiatus and I cleared ~escape attempt 8

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It’s no true fresh file but

cloud mist
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It's a freesh avockadoo

inner pine
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Wow!! I think my very first time playing it took me hmmm about 35 attempts. Hoping to... beat that lol.

rustic vale
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Escape attempt 8 also happened to coincide with when I unlocked aspects so I had my zag bow to keep me company

inner pine
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Starting over completely fresh because I originally played Hades on the Switch and now I'm on the Steam Deck so I lost all my original progress/runs

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God I miss the bow. That was my fave weapon

rustic vale
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I mean cross saves exist but yeah

inner pine
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From Switch to Steam?

rustic vale
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Yeah

inner pine
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Omg. I didn't know that. I didn't even think to check because I'm so used to my Switch games not being cross-compatible with anything

tepid plover
rustic vale
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I mean the hammers were perfect but anything else was dubious

jagged hamlet
cloud mist
rustic vale
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Yes

cloud mist
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It's absolutely baller imo

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It slays

rustic vale
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Breaching cross is easily the top fists hammer flat out

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It’s like dedge, no competition

cloud mist
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Dedg?

rustic vale
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Double edge for sword

cloud mist
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Whats the second?

rustic vale
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for

cloud mist
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Gilga

fervent radish
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Rending

cloud mist
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Actually I'm sure it's the main buff

rustic vale
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Maim isn’t real

west mist
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Breaching Cross is such a sick hammer

fervent radish
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Maim is real in speed

cloud mist
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Maim weak and boiling blood extra damage stack is pretty nutty I think

rustic vale
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bouldy ig

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maim is one of the debuffs ever

jagged hamlet
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Very slow Doom

cloud mist
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25% more damage is 25% more damage

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(with the hammer)

rustic vale
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Yeah but it’s 50% more damage taken on the least survivable fist aspect

jagged hamlet
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Is it additive or multiplicative?

rustic vale
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additive

cloud mist
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Oh

cloud mist
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Sadge.... I was kinda balling with gilga

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Cleanest Hades battle yesterday

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I really need to be in the zone to play good

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Mostly the extra dashes and the autodash I like

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Makes it slightly less predictable without good grasp but I like

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It's funny

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But Demeter is kinda funnier

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Aside from survivability though gilga kinda shreds

rustic vale
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The issue with gilga survivability is reduced dash range, increased dash cooldown and slower dash strikes all come together to bite you in the bum

tepid plover
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as well as increased dmg from the upper special

cloud mist
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I suppose the extra dashes do t have a continuous I frame when you hold it down

tepid plover
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The dashes do, dash strikes don't, as usual

rustic vale
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is it one complete iframe over your 4 dashes or 4 individual ones that end and start at somepoint

tepid plover
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Don't they not have iframes??

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Oh idk the exact I know I tend to be untouchable with gilga

rustic vale
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Their question is about the qualities of autodash and empty dash iframes combined together

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Idk

tepid plover
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Yeah idk either

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I actually wish I could the disable the whole hold thing with gilga

errant zenith
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how do i gain aphrodite's favor? do i have to romance both than and meg? i googled it and found conflicting answers

tepid plover
errant zenith
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yes but another reddit thread says that wiki must be wrong and you have to romance them both so i wanted to confirm 😄

jagged hamlet
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Heh, Reddit

tepid plover
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You have to romance 3, not "both"

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Also yeah, hehe reddit

jagged hamlet
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No, you don't have to romance anybody. Just build bonds

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Oh how I hate "romance" as verb

tepid plover
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You don't like to romance packrat?

jagged hamlet
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I just really dislike the word. It conveys to me a connotation of something kinda shallow and vain, I suppose

tepid plover
errant zenith
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ok ty

tepid plover
jagged hamlet
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The leadership of Fandom need to be tied to chairs and forced to watch ads

onyx holly
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My bf ditched me on my birthday because of "college and stuff" (we're in the same college and we're past the test season, so IT'S NOT AN EXCUSE). He gave me a lovely gift, but I'm still a little sore after that. What Hades quote do I use to get back at him?

jagged hamlet
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HRRRRRNNGGGGHHHHH

fervent radish
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Denied. And out with you.

potent orbit
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Hello :) I've been playing Hades (first one) for 13 hours now and I've just beaten Hades for the 4th time. Damn, he whoops my ass. Any tips for a newbie? :D

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this is Hades 1 buddy I promise :(

tepid plover
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how do we know is hades 1

potent orbit
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I edited it to make it clearer, but I would've said Hades 2 if I was playing the second (which I'm not)

tepid plover
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im still not sure

potent orbit
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?

jagged hamlet
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Stahp, Detective CarrotGuy! You're scaring the witness!

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Fight near the big rocks in the sides of the arena, keep the 💀 population under control, understand that Dashes give iframes but Dash-Strikes do not, etc. etc.

tepid plover
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Say hi to your shade fan

tepid plover
# potent orbit ?

Is just a joke since some people complain about the bot, when the bot is just spamming the same message regardless, is not targeted at all

potent orbit
tepid plover
jagged hamlet
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StickyBot's too good for you

queen monolith
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i went back to hades 1 for a break to do the orpheus quest and realized it also has the statue challenges Q___Q

tidal raft
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Yo, i just got a yt short on my feed talking about like the aspects or whatever, thr upgraded weapon things. How come i dont have them unlocked? In the wiki it says u unlock them after owning all weapons and having 1 beast blood. I have beaten hades already once and ive gotten up to hades on every weapon but i havent unlocked the aspect things

queen monolith
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have you talked to skelly?

tidal raft
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Yeah evey time he has a thing above his head

queen monolith
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hm weird

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i dont exactly remember

tidal raft
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But like shouldent i have unlocked the aspects like AGES ago?

queen monolith
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if you unlocked all weapons and got a titanblood yea

tidal raft
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Considering ive gotten every beast blood on every weapon and even some with heat xd

queen monolith
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ages ago yea

tidal raft
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I dont think my friend has them either hes fought hades many times not yet beaten tho

queen monolith
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i think i havent gotten the secret aspects tho myself xD

mint coral
mint coral
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Go near the placeholder of your currently equipped weapon and see if the interact button pops up

tidal raft
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I havent done that

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Also i cant give the better elixir things to any1 yet either

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I have so many of them

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I have 6 hearts with aphrodite artemis meg and the snake thing

mint coral
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You need to open the lock for a character first
Aka a favor/quest

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Most of them are just keep talking/playing, a few of them are tied to prophecies/a few more specific

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They are all on the wiki

brisk trail
#

I will turn this into an animation

#

Know anyone who does a good Chaos impression?

warm moss
#

so if my dialogue for reaching the surface with a hidden aspect was overridden by a different bit of dialogue can i do another run with the aspect and still get it?

queen monolith
#

man this is such a comfort game i am glad there is so much difficult content so i can play this for months to come probably ❤️
really glad i discovered this genre

twin plover
#

I'm watching Haelian's vid on H1's best/worst hammers and he's using Skelly to showcase hammers. Is he using a mod for that? Or a hack? Or is it possible to do in-game through a secret debug mode?

jagged hamlet
#

Mod

latent moon
#

yeah probably codex mod

twin plover
#

Ahh yeah I just found it on Nexus. Thanks

rustic vale
#

Do I trust Haelian here or do I watch the video bouldy

queen monolith
#

What I didn't understand right now is the secret aspects are unlocked not by their own weapons? I just did the conditions with the bow and then Achilles told me about the secret spear aspect? O.o

rustic vale
queen monolith
rustic vale
#

Did artemis merely comment on your use of the bow?

queen monolith
queen monolith
rustic vale
#

Being able to unlock it is all you need

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You don’t need to have the aspect

queen monolith
#

Oh ok

rustic vale
#

Dw about the 3 titan blood

queen monolith
#

So Artemis will talk to me now about the bow?

rustic vale
queen monolith
#

Yes I am going to need someone to tell me it

rustic vale
#

Well it’s the same npc as the first phrase you need in every case

queen monolith
#

Achilles

rustic vale
#

no

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Like bow needs artemis

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you get her to comment on the bow usage then you get the waking phrase from her

queen monolith
#

Yes then she will have to talk to me

rustic vale
#

Yeah, sorry for the confusion

queen monolith
#

I should probably equip her trinket then for better chances?

rustic vale
latent moon
#

but if he doesnt then it's probably fine

latent moon
#

i can see him saying world splitter is fun which can be funny at times tbf

rustic vale
#

Because last time someone used a Haelian tierlist it was a fun factor rating and I got “Haelian rated chiron high” when they completely missed his disclaimer and own words

latent moon
#

lmao it do be like that

rustic vale
#

“even if they were, who are we to determine that? haelian put chiron and chaos in s tier in his aspect tier list, u think u know better than him? i wouldnt proclaim to, i cant even beat 50 heat”

rich fjord
#

Am i missing something abt the trippy shot hype

rustic vale
rich fjord
#

Its so slow so by the time it lands the enemy is gone

latent moon
#

aim better it's good for enemies that are spawning in or ones that dont move too much

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but otherwise it's kinda whatever

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unless you get ice wine

rustic vale
#

It depends on where you’re seeing trippy shot hype/what context

rustic vale
heavy burrow
#

that last run i had may have been the last time i play this game again im so livid

#

i wanna spike my controller so bad

rich fjord
rustic vale
#

If it’s reddit odds are they’re just crazy-

rich fjord
#

Legit youre the first one saying anything other than its amazing

rustic vale
#

job done

heavy burrow
#

i had literally the best run ive had in a long while, im like 8 or 9 runs since i last escaped

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i had so many good boons and a great strategy going on

#

i enter the final fight with all 3 death defiances and full health

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AND I LOSE

latent moon
#

it do be like that

heavy burrow
#

i cant handle this anymore

rich fjord
#

It happens

latent moon
rustic vale
rich fjord
#

Lmao

#

Bro

#

Is hestia rail aphro atk better or artemis

latent moon
#

aphrodite

rustic vale
#

I’d take aphro for consistency but I’m not a habitual hestia gamer

latent moon
#

consistency is better

rustic vale
#

Either way you put the other goddess on special iirc

jagged hamlet
#

Reddit is the type to argue with a WR-setting player

latent moon
#

85% of the time you deal no damage, 15% of the time you overkill

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arty atk is only good if you have chaos buffs

rustic vale
rich fjord
#

Ive seen some people run shackle the entire run too, doesnt that fall off after tartarus

rich fjord
#

LIKE HOW DO PEOPLE CLEAR 50+ HEAT WITH NO KEEPSAKE FOR LAST FIGHT

rustic vale
#

?

latent moon
latent moon
rich fjord
latent moon
#

bai beat 64 with earring going into em4

rich fjord
#

Maybe im just bad

latent moon
#

unmodded i believe

rustic vale
rich fjord
#

Oh my bad i meant like tooth or acorn

rustic vale
#

yeah but acorn is just damage reduction like

#

At boonless you need the damage to end the fight so you don’t take the hits

#

so you run shackle

rich fjord
#

Mmm ig

heavy burrow
#

idk how ppl get good at this

rustic vale
#

I have a solid ~30 victory screens where I took shackle from start to finish?

heavy burrow
#

i turn on any heat and im washed

rich fjord
#

WOAH

latent moon
rich fjord
heavy burrow
#

just raged over a 2 heat run and ppl out here just casually doing way more

rustic vale
#

I’m no 50 heat gamer, I capped out at 40 with regular builds

heavy burrow
#

i mean

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ive only got 80 hours so

rustic vale
#

and 32 with shackle

latent moon
#

i have like 535 hours in the game and most of it was speedrunning and high heat lmao

heavy burrow
#

i dont have the time to sink that much into this game

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or the dedication

latent moon
#

i mean it's been like 3-4 years

rich fjord
#

Bro i have 300 and i have a single completely lucked out 32 heat win ..

heavy burrow
#

i just got this a few months ago i think

latent moon
#

have you tried pushing yourself to new/higher goals after that lmao

rich fjord
#

Nah ts scarred me

latent moon
#

bc you improve my pushing yourself, not doing what's comfortable

rich fjord
#

Ill be playing on sub 10 heat for now

heavy burrow
#

my goal was just to like

#

do everything

#

i dont need to beat the hardest stuff ever but like

rich fjord
heavy burrow
#

i wanna get all the stuff done

latent moon
#

sure

heavy burrow
#

like aspects and upgrades

#

and like maxing out all the relationships and keepsakes

#

im sure theres stuff ive never seen too

#

apparently theres a whole nother area i havent unlocked

heavy burrow
#

and like

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key holes in the little case thing

#

idk whats that about

#

ill learn eventually

rustic vale
#

It’s not true boonless but most of what I do aren’t the true versions of their respective challenges

latent moon
#

oh maybe i should revist my boonless 40 beowulf from years ago that i never beat

rich fjord
#

Wait im not crazy i saw that ss on a yt video abt like analyzing player stats to find the best way to clear 32

heavy burrow
#

if i even play the game again

#

its been 15 minutes and im still so salty

latent moon
rustic vale
latent moon
#

haelian's first 32 heat tip vid is solid for first 32 iirc

#

i used it back then

rich fjord
#

Snall world

rustic vale
#

ok well speed & heat player

rich fjord
heavy burrow
#

ok then how about this

#

can i get some like

latent moon
heavy burrow
#

maybe tips?

#

idk what to ask for

rustic vale
heavy burrow
#

ik besides like, just do runs or something

rustic vale
#

Hold on I got a great pair of photos

latent moon
#

and pacts do you normally run

latent moon
#

and what aspects or whatever are you gonna use

heavy burrow
#

or wait

#

can i post a pic?

rustic vale
heavy burrow
#

ok hang on

rustic vale
#

you’ll need to send it as an image link

latent moon
#

i didn't want to use a high heat screenshot bc i dont want to explain SD over DD lmao

rich fjord
#

First time ive seen chaos go above 50% for a buff

rich fjord
#

115 is crazy

rustic vale
#

Like

#

More often than not

rich fjord
#

REALLY 🤣

latent moon
#

special has a higher base % than attack

heavy burrow
latent moon
#

common shot barely hits 50% at max iirc, common attack max is like 60% prob lmao

rustic vale
rustic vale
latent moon
heavy burrow
#

i kinda just turn on the enemy damage or heal reduction

#

im only doing a max of 2 or 3 rn tho

latent moon
#

that's fine

rustic vale
heavy burrow
rustic vale
#

You know what

heavy burrow
#

those are just my favorite aspects for my favorite weapons to use

rustic vale
#

1/4 is pretyy solid

rich fjord
#

😭😭😭

#

Pls tell me its demeter

rustic vale
#

Yeah

rich fjord
#

Demeter is tasty

#

Yahooo

rustic vale
#

Let me put it this way

#

“even if they were, who are we to determine that? haelian put chiron and chaos in s tier in his aspect tier list, u think u know better than him? i wouldnt proclaim to, i cant even beat 50 heat”

Is a quote I literally just used to make a point about people blindly watching Haelians tierlist video

latent moon
#

chaos is good bc it's a shield, not bc the gimmick is good

heavy burrow
#

whats wrong with chiron? obviously im not an expert so i would have 0 clue but the homing special seems really good

latent moon
#

single target damage is alright but just takes forever to actually go through with bc of the long special animation

rustic vale
#

it’s slow and the single target dps doesn’t warrant it being so single target and slow

heavy burrow
#

also i have not watched a single video on hades, i just wanted to preface that

#

havent watched any videos, no online lists

#

nothing

rustic vale
#

W/ my “let me put it this way”

heavy burrow
#

this is like my first time asking or learning any advice on this game besides a personal friend lol, i try to keep myself blind to it in that sense yk

rustic vale
#

👍

heavy burrow
#

so what are some better aspects?

rustic vale
#

Well for bow

latent moon
#

any other shield and bow for chaos and chiron lmfao

rustic vale
#

Chiron is the 4th best aspect

#

Same thing with Chaos for shield

#

4th best aspect there

heavy burrow
#

does that just mean worst

rustic vale
#

It’s the 4th best by a mile

#

and a kilometer

latent moon
#

well chaos isn't that bad

#

it's still good bc it's a shield

rustic vale
latent moon
#

not by that much tho lmao

rustic vale
#

The mile and kilometer was a bit more point at chiron tbf

heavy burrow
#

whats the best

twin thistle
#

imagine if zag shield applied to cshot projectile

heavy burrow
#

or like

#

what you thinks best

#

yall

twin thistle
#

beowulf for everything under 50 heat, zeus for above 50 bouldy

heavy burrow
#

idk

rustic vale
# heavy burrow what you thinks best

Speed:
Sword - Nem
Spear - Achilles
Shield - Beowulf
Bow - Hera
Fist - Demeter
Rail - Eris

Heat:
Sword - Nem
Spear - Guan-Yu
Shield - Zeus
Bow - Rama
Fists - Demeter
Rail - Hestia

heavy burrow
#

thats cool

rustic vale
#

Note Hestia & Eris are interchangable until you hit the more challenging levels of their respective fields

heavy burrow
#

so when you say heat

#

does that apply to the 2 heat i currently use

#

or is it more like

latent moon
#

that list for "heat" is like past 40 lmao

twin thistle
#

Heat as in like 40+ yeah

heavy burrow
#

yea thats what i assumed

rustic vale
heavy burrow
#

i probably wont ever be at that point but thats still good to know

rustic vale
#

I mean zeus and hestia are equally as valid

#

at low heat

#

for the same purposes

#

Insanely safe aspects

heavy burrow
#

i like those speed aspects ive used

#

i really do not like using the gun thing

#

but the other things i liked doing

rustic vale
#

rail often has a little something for everyone

heavy burrow
#

i always felt like if i stopped to fire it i would get hit

#

and usually that happened lol

rustic vale
#

you just need to find it or sometimes get proded in the right direction

heavy burrow
#

i never felt that for the bow either

rustic vale
#

That’s odd

heavy burrow
#

its probably just me not understanding how best to use it

rustic vale
#

Take it in the firing range and try hold down attack and dashing around at the same time

heavy burrow
#

but like getting into elysium so much of my time was just dashing around and firing like 2 shots before dashing a bunch again and i wasnt enjoying it

#

im sure i could learn it tho

#

thanks for the list tho

rustic vale
#

for rail

#

to see what’s up

heavy burrow
#

and i will change those mirror things once i get some more darkness and max them out

rustic vale
#

Just hold down attack and start dashing in the range

heavy burrow
#

i will try that

rustic vale
#

what’s the proper name for the range

#

The courtyard?

#

I’m blanking

rich fjord
#

BEST DEMETER ATK BOON?

rustic vale
rich fjord
#

Wait really

heavy burrow
#

oh

rich fjord
#

Doesnt doom not stack

rustic vale
thorny mural
#

ME my beloved

rich fjord
#

Erm

heavy burrow
#

i also wanted to ask the best keepsake?

#

thats the last thing ill ask i promise i dont mean to be so annoying about it

rustic vale
heady wolf
rich fjord
#

Dont you wanna abuse the atk speed on fists tho

#

And since merciful end works on other weapons too

rustic vale
#

For elysium it’s ejther a defensive keepsake or a utilith

#

And styx is defense

rustic vale
heavy burrow
#

thank you

rustic vale
#

Standing around is time spent lossing dps

rich fjord
#

Wait ds procs me????

heavy burrow
#

ill try to get better with it

rich fjord
#

Ive beeb attacking and dashing into them 😭😭😭

rustic vale
#

for ME builds

rich fjord
#

And ds will proc it is what ur saying

rustic vale
#

It makes it as simple as dash striking to prok and drop doom

#

yes

rich fjord
#

Man

#

That makes so much more sense

#

Yoy need to apply the first doom before it works tho right

rustic vale
# rich fjord Man

The other builds are zeus strike -> aphro special -> zeus or dionysus call -> smouldering air.
Find static dischargr

rustic vale
rich fjord
#

I GET IT

#

I will be trying that now ty

rich fjord
#

Or keep epic chance

rustic vale
rustic vale
rich fjord
#

Yo i need to ss these and try them

#

Ive been exclusively doing zeus atk and artemis special

rustic vale
rich fjord
#

Oh yeah that too is chaos a no brainer take every time

rustic vale
#

Rarity goes super far on chaos, and epic greatest reflex or epic rush delivery after hyper sprint is a mega huge boost

rustic vale
#

The 1% is when the other option is a story room or other skip

rich fjord
#

Whats a story room

rustic vale
#

like if I have to pick between a chaos boon or touch of styx dark

twin thistle
rustic vale
twin thistle
#

Im civilized so i only take ap2 for +50 heat

rustic vale
#

I’m civilized so I’d rather step in magma after a lernie fight to reset my spent sd than run ap

rich fjord
#

Sd? Im assuming ap is aproval process

rustic vale
#

Stubborn defiance

#

Weakened dd that regens every room but you only have one

rich fjord
#

Oh yeah i did that too for all of asphodel if i was below 30%

twin thistle
#

spent sd bouldy

rustic vale
rich fjord
#

AFTER THE CHAMBER IM NOT THAT DUMB

rustic vale
#

I said what I said.

rich fjord
#

Sd better for high heat then

twin thistle
#

Yeah usually

rich fjord
#

Sweet

#

Wb backstab vs undamahed

rustic vale
#

Due to my speed and heat play I gotta say undamaged

twin thistle
#

Undamaged for most aspects since it makes tart go by a lot faster

rustic vale
#

Although if you’re on a fast hitting aspect it may be better to just go with shadow presence

rich fjord
#

Demeter 👅

rustic vale
#

depends on if the special is wieldy enough

rich fjord
#

Demeter w zeus atk is way too satisfying

#

Wlel ig its any fist

rustic vale
heavy burrow
#

getting used to the achilles spear is hard

rich fjord
#

Whats smoldering air do?

heavy burrow
#

idk when to do the rush and when to call back lol

rustic vale
rich fjord
#

Turn brain off rly fun

rustic vale
#

Minicalling is already better dos than waiting for a big one this just speeds up the proces

rich fjord
#

Ah

rustic vale
rich fjord
#

Understood

rustic vale
#

A regular minicall

rich fjord
#

I usually dont get my duo i want even afyer elysium so i give up and cry

rustic vale
#

They aren’t super rare

#

I have a lot of screenshots of 3-5 duos and legendaries that I keep as an “anti god’s legacy” propaganda folder

#

To show that yes, you can get a large amount of duo boons without the duo boosting upgrade

#

And in turn

#

You can get 1 duo boon a whole ton more than that

rich fjord
#

Hm

#

My dumb luck

#

Ik rolling more than once is bad but i cant resist the possibilty to get what i want

#

And then it fails and i have no dice left

rustic vale
#

My rolls are always for hermes, chaos, wells and purging pools

rich fjord
#

Woah ive never heard of that

#

Sounds like a higj heat tjing

rustic vale
#

Of course

#

There are times where you reroll god boons

#

When you really need something

#

But otherwise, hyper sprint -> rush delivery is absolutely massive

#

A proper chaos boon tailored for your aspect can be massive

rich fjord
#

Ooo ive watched enough yt to know abt hyper delivery

#

Makes sense

rustic vale
#

being abl to get ichors for more movement speed for hyper delivery, being able to buy extra casts and cast damage or special/attack damage

#

being able to possibly sell a core I really don’t want

rich fjord
#

Oh so you soemtimes take a core and plan to just purge it after boss

#

NEVER THOUGHT OF THAT

rustic vale
#

Yeah

#

The other purging thing is the less pommable boons you have

#

The more likely poms will be able to hit the ones you want them too

rich fjord
#

Ahhh

#

I was thinking for mom pom cuz i NEVER get that lvl on what i need

rustic vale
#

If you actually look closely

#

I have next to no pommable secondary boons here

#

Or wait that might be a bit more than I counted initially

#

This may be the wrong ss

#

This is what I wanted

rich fjord
#

Oh i see it right away 😭

#

Lvl 11 atk

rustic vale
#

The other screenshot had a lot of pommable boons but it has sweet nectar to double the pom rewards so it wasn’t really what I meant

rich fjord
#

Fs fs

rustic vale
#

Iirc broken resolve can’t be pommed so that’s a total of 4 pommable boons

#

3/4 times I could pom drunken strike

rich fjord
#

DAMN yoy even know what isnt pommable

rustic vale
#

broke resolve just makes sense to not be pommable in my head given it’s bonus damage reduction on something that’s already a massive amount of damage reduction

rich fjord
#

Nah cuz why do i know so little with 300 hours in

rustic vale
#

Letting that get pommed would be insane

#

and aside from that, every other boon I have is either a chaos boon, a hammer, a duo, one of my 3 cores, or curse of vengeance

#

And so the 3 cores and CoV can be pommed

#

But you can’t pom hammers or duos

#

Or hermes boons

#

Don’t @ me with a clip of lvl10 swift strike from codex mod

rich fjord
#

Dawg idek what that is

rich fjord
#

Is it supposed to be a still frame

#

Also how do u have boons in armory

rustic vale
#

I should start telling players this is real vanila footage

rich fjord
#

LOL

rustic vale
rich fjord
#

Is it a steam thing

#

Im a goblin so i got my game on epic for sale

twin thistle
#

Mod

rustic vale
#

Leveling up swift strike, having flurry slash in courtyard, having swift strike in courtyard

rich fjord
#

How to get mod

rustic vale
twin thistle
#

If you go to nexus there should be a guide

rich fjord
#

🫡

rustic vale
# rich fjord 🫡

Hades modding server can probablt just hijack your computer remotely and do the installation for you

#

I mean what?

rich fjord
#

I would like to avoid that

rustic vale
#

Disclaimer: I have no clue if they could do that

#

I just wanted to hyperbolate their skills

twin thistle
#

Even if they could they wouldnt waste the time to lol

obsidian drum
#

I wonder how would be if a God had to help both Theseus and Zagreus at the same time

#

"Am I a joke to you?"

mint coral
#

It can happen with artemis

#

But not actually as story but as a default thing lmao

obsidian drum
#

I mean, it makes me laugh when Hades has to deal with the greater help from Zeus.

heavy burrow
#

i finally got another win

rich fjord
#

W

ornate wyvern
#

Y'all I just beat the post game for Hades. What do I do now?

#

It feels weird finally finishing the game

warm moss
#

has H1 finished development?

latent moon
#

hades 1 has been done for like 4 years lmao

warm moss
#

pity

twin thistle
#

It would be weird for them to already have 2 out while working on 1 lol

warm moss
#

holy ground feels like it should deny poison pools left by the rats

latent moon
#

true but poison pools aren't traps

#

if they were traps, poison on hs would absolutely suck

warm moss
#

i swear i look away for 1 run and i find myself with 5 bottles of ambrosia

stone rune
gusty cave
#

can anyone recommand me an aspect/build

west mist
#

urgh hestia hurts my hands

tepid light
gusty cave
tepid light
gusty cave
#

should i just use it in it's base form?

#

it's level one atm

tepid light
#

you should probably upgrade it if you can

gusty cave
tepid light
#

depends on how much you actually like that aspect

gusty cave
tepid light
grand glade
#

Aphrodite attack and Dionysus special would be how I'd approach a Chiron bow build

gusty cave
west mist
#

how do i play rail without having to worry about the special or reloading?

tepid light
tepid light
jagged hamlet
#

Can't quite go ignoring literally the two functions of rail. Try rebinding the Reload

tepid light
jagged hamlet
#

Or your finger will literally die zagshock

west mist
#

i just failed a hestia run i just don't want to spend time reloading

#

ow

gusty cave
#

I mean build is good, high damage

#

But the survibility kinda sucks

tepid light
west mist
#

**** the rail

gusty cave
#

Isn't the rail a good weapon?

tepid light
#

yes

gusty cave
#

Hestia was mention here

#

Anyways gotta get used to playing bow, I can see the potential

tepid light
#

Yeah bow takes some getting used to, but it's worth it

west mist
#

much prefer bow myself

twin thistle
#

Hestia = bestia

gusty cave
west mist
gusty cave
#

Ohhhh

#

Maybe rng not good then

#

Hestia as far as I know is a top tier weapon

west mist
#

rn i'm done with Zag Fists/Rama Bow/Zeus Shield/Nem Sword/Achilles Spear

gusty cave
#

Wow even the spear?

#

Nem sword is good though

jagged hamlet
#

Achilles is a very strong castpect

west mist
#

I did ME

#

ME is just that strong

gusty cave
#

Me?

west mist
#

Merciful end

mortal copper
#

If I equip Thanatos’ keepsake for Tartarus, and then change to a different one for the rest of the run, do I still get the bonus damage from his keepsake?

void vigil
#

nah the bonus goes away

gusty cave
#

Does hades mobile exist?

void vigil
#

yep, through netflix and only on ios

gusty cave
#

Oh...

#

That sucks

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Is there any game like hades on mobile?

mortal copper
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If you know someone who’s willing to share their Netflix password with you, you can play

mortal copper
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Ohh

gusty cave
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Not on iOS though

mortal copper
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I think you might be able to still log in

gusty cave
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Can't find it in playstore

grand glade
gusty cave
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Not my type?

grand glade
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It's an action roguelike

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As is Hades

gusty cave
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Actually Chiron bow can stack with many different dot lol

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What's the best aspect?

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Like for all weapons

west mist
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Depends on speed/heat

grand glade
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Not exactly a table but y'know

gusty cave
grand glade
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It doesn't scale well for high heat and speedruns apparently

gusty cave
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Nah at my current level I just want progression and titan bloodd

tepid light
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guan yu being the best spear for heat

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eurgh

west mist
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the difference between 20 heat and 32 heat is pretty big

gusty cave
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Kk

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I'm on no heat anyways

tepid plover
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until next time

west mist
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until next time

potent orbit
potent orbit
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Oh yeah now I look it's the special administration one

tepid plover
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yeah

potent orbit
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I need 2 diamonds for it 😔

west mist
potent orbit
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I am StickyBot I promise zaglol

tepid plover
west mist
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more than 200 hours for me

tepid plover
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yeah, combined gotta be at least 500 hrs for me

west mist
tepid plover
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lmfao

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poor stickybot

west mist
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'YES I GET IT'

tepid plover
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just went a whole run without a single chaos gate, can't remember when's the last time that happened

dusk sage
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Guys I accidentally made a sword built that does 1500 DMG PER HIT