#h1-discussion
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but it’s good for titan blood farming from styx
Nah, nothing is missable
Lmao
Real
The only time Side Hussle is good
Oh Good.
Yeah is not great, is just sorely for the purpose of having enough gold by the end without necessarily farming gold chambers
You can’t reach past your heat level for bounties beyond except for heat 1 since if you turn on heat 1 it’ll disregard your lack of a heat 0 clear
Put coin purse get 1 or 2 chambers, and the gold should ramp up
should i grab athena for rail (i have artemis attack)
On Hestia?
yea
Btw Arty attack Hestia is hella cursed, something like Epic Aphro/Athena/Demeter is def better
this is my first real run using hestia so idk good boons for it
👍
Holy those are trash, Seeking fire?
When the ap2 fates be doing a little tomfoolery and give me hazard bomb with eris 
Anybody want to back me up?
but which one tho
Seeking fire
k
Are you doing bestia?
mhm
Yeah those are kinda trash xd
chaos gate or darkness
Darkness does nothing for your run lol
k
At most 5 hp
Worth most of the time
maimed lunge roiling eclipse or abyssal influence
(im pretty sure this run is cooked) @tepid plover
WHERE IS MY IM SORRY IM GOOD BUTTON CHAOS SCREW YOU
Lol I don't remember those by name, but you wanna focus on anything that augments your attack
5 hp per attack but after 43% more dash atk dmg, 73% more enemies for 68% more darkness and gems, or 232% more dmg from traps for 45% more coin
I'd take coin
Health is irrelevant, just don't get hit 
so ares special it is
I DIDNT EVEN GET HIS SPECIAL I HAVE ARES AID URGE TO KILL OR HS CAST
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
THIS RUN IS COOKED
I would uhhhh
Not recommend ares special on rail
you want % damage boosts for rail special
bruh
im grasping at straws cuz im getting nothing but garbage
i'd go urge to kill
Dmg is the best offense, you don't need health if stuff dies before they can hit you 
just a straight damage bonus to everything
do i give charon the ambrosia
we got a troll in the chat
why not
i have 2 and im tryna be in bed with thanatos as soon as possible (i am in fact gay)
Lol
lmao
well
Then save it for thanatos
up to you then
does giving it to charon do anything?
He loves you
will he give me 5% off his shop?
Cool sticker
STICKR?!?!? OOOOOO
No, he loves you
you can go to bed with charon
i gave it to charon
If only
yeah even the straight men wanna bang him
what does stickr do
Ambrosia has zero gameplay effect outside of ||companions||
Look cool
Is a sticker
One of then being than
||bouldy best companion|| don't @ me
wish me luck im boutta go into fury room with lvl 0 hestia and no good boons
how much hp
is bouldy from sysiphus?
Yes
yep
53/150 and 1 death defiance
aight, at least you've got a good amount of max hp
i believe in u
its alecto im screwed arent i
believe in me who believes in you
how many runs did it take u guys before u escaped
Bro thinks he's bouldy
I don't remember exactly
Quite a few though
It's been over 4years, i literally don't remember
30
ima take a dip in the lava so i can redo the run
Hazard is good on hestia wdym
Nice synergy with battle rage too
I know this was my first, don't know how long it took me, you can judge by the mirror I guess
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/725021639506526249/731410710751346788/unknown.png?ex=66538c8e&is=66523b0e&hm=d5eb032a06839bdfb4e2cf2e268243387143f7f9cfc829873fc7c117c64ba875&
Super nova, no special boon 
i just gave achilles some nectar and i think i got him very drunk
can i get cerbie as a companion
||with a mod||
22

im tryna threesome too (bisexual)
giving meg nectar rn
ik btw how many hearts do i need than to have before i can give him the ambrosia
Idk says in codex I believe
do i need to finish the 'learn more by talking to thanatos x times' thing before i can give it
I don't think so, is purely nectar stuff
i see
@tepid plover check dms
btw is artemis attack hermes +1 dash and quick attack (no spin strke) on achilles spear good? it was hwat i used for first clear
FIRST THING AND ITS HEALTH LETS GO
HAMMER TIME PLEASE RNGESUS I WILL SUCK YOU IF I GET THE RIGHT HAMMER
i didnt get it
tell me your best spear builds 
ares time what do i get from him
It's been so long since I've played without ap2, idk builds anymore xD
yes?
If you have arty attack, go with Ares cast and look for hunting blades duo
im using the +50% dmg when cast is stuck in an enemy tho
Hunting Blades matters more than boiling blood
i can take epic blood frenzy rare slicing shot or blade dash also rare
whats hunting blades im new
Arty and Ares duo boon which makes your casts seek foes instead of traveling in a straight line
oh ok
power pom do i go for ares cast on it? i only have arty atk and ares cast rn
Ares cast scales better with poms, so pom that
daedalus i will actually kill you if you dont show up with the upgrade i need soon
btw is demeter cast good?
i can fight charon
im gonna
he slaughtered me
@tepid plover is demeter cast good?
it's
not the best
base demeter cast doesn't do much, you need a bunch of boons for it to be consistent
what if i get crystal clarity duo boon
+10% dmg and it tracks better
aight i have 3 crystals so i should just have a death laser now
It still likely won't be the centerpiece of your build, but it can be helpful
glacial glare would help too
what is glacial glare
It's definitely a cast, you need to build around it, and even then
demeter boon that increases the duration of the cast and makes it apply chill
should i pom it over arty atk?
What's the one that makes it faster too?
no
you're using hestia, right
switched to spear
which spear
achilles
ima try and build around the cast this run
This is why I like ap2, no thinking required
Pom cast
ap2?
Arty attack pom is like 7% or something like that
approval process 2, heat modifier
Approval process 2, you no longer have options 
lol
The game says take this, and you take that
Make it work
I love that so much, winning feels so satisfying
i just got shop, sysiphus, then shop again
Charon is a fast fella
JESUS CHRIST DEMETER CAST MELTS BOSSES I HAVE 40 DMG EVERY .2 SECONDS RN
WILL THIS STOP GIVING ME POMS HOLY LORD
shop or hammer hmm
shop it is
if you think dem cast melts bosses you need to be introduced to any dps build
i was using spear with artemis heroic atk and the thing with fast attakcs but not spin
it melted faster but im trying new builds and demeter cast works
flurry jab is it's best hammer
yeah
if you want to use a cast build I'd recommend using achilles spear
oh it looks like you are nevermind
elysium time
attack build achilles masterrace
2 hammers and no flurry jab
Rough
@tepid plover is there a way to gaurantee a hammer?
Mods
dang
are mods easy to install?
what is "tiny vermin" they just put me with a ridiculous boss fight
with more health than hades
wow
Yes
i looked it up no they are not 
Nah it definitely is
Extract the speedrunning modpack into your content folder for hades and then just run the modimporyer
tf is the speedrunning modpack
View Hades speedruns, leaderboards, forums and more on Speedrun.com
Among these is a mod that guarantees a first hammer of your choice
send me a link to the mod emporter
I’m pretty sure it’s included
oh dang
is there anything i can do to get rid of the sticky bot?
how do i extract it it only has open file on it
@fervent radish how do i get it into hades
nope, it's not just for you, it keeps popping up for everyone
It’ll have to be in the content folder for hades
how do i do that i have no prior experience modding
You just extract the zip file into the folder
it literally wont let me
Idk how your computer works then
im on windows 11
Bro just met uh-oh 🗣💀
In the top part of the window in files you should have an extract all option
Hopefully someone else can help, I have to go
i have that but it wont let me extract them into hades
In this video I do my best to explain the process of installing mods for Hades. It isn't too difficult but it does require quite a few steps!
I didn't make this document, but it was very helpful for me!
--- How to add mods to Hades: http://bit.ly/installing-hades-mods
Link for the Apollo mod on NexusMods:
https://www.nexusmods.com/hades/mods/1...
If that doesn't help, idk what will
He's as clear as it can get
oofff darn
lmao
i just loaded up H1 and turns out i had a run from a year ago in asphodel
Aspect of Hestia
I remember why i don't like gun
Bestia slander 
If I sell one of my 2 Hermes boons, can another natural one show up?
no
I'm rusty lol
lost all my DDs and died to Dad
but hey Meg dragged me into the bedroom when i came back so its not all bad
ah yes, 'compensation'
Was stuck in advancing in 18 heat pact until i realize i have heighten security on
Hey so I've been trying to unlock the hidden aspect of the fists for a while now and have run into asterius multiple times (getting him on his own has been painful) but he's not giving me the first dialogue needed ("You mean to fight me bare handed" etc.), what are the chances to get this dialogue?
So do you have guan yu?
Hey, so I have a question regarding heat and the 10th final fight of the game.
Could i technically set 32 heat and beat the run without having to fight the final boss? Like a heat scumming?

Or does the 10th victory run not really count?
yep
5 or more blood invested into fist aspects?
yepp
get sure footing, or suffer horribly
So when you fight asterius with the fists equipped he's giving you generic lines?
mhm
Looks good
yaya i love attack builds
Bestia 
💙 im update ya
GL
the game hates me
it made me run through all the champers
its over
😭 yeah that suck im just playing 32 heat on em 4 as casual run
Let’s put a timer mechanic and an RNG region that takes 1-6 minutes long in the same game what could go wrong
one of many reasons why i don't speedrun or go above tight deadline 1
Yeah it's kinda all depends on rng some people get greedy after getting sack on 1m ... and end lossing due to time
I can confirm now, the 10th win count as a full run, so you can just cheese 64 heat in it without fighting dad.

LEAGUE PLAYER DETECTED
Can't unlock em4 before credits
NOT JUDGING, I'M A LEAGUE PLAYER TOO
theres nothing behind 64 heat lol, so theres really no point in doing this, aside from challenging yourself, if that counts a max victory for you, so be it lol
Is def a funny thing to do lol
True. But you can unlock the Skelly 32 statue easier.
Did 32 heat like that in one save
32 heat is cake
Someone did 40 I think?
i would feel bad for doing this, but thats just me
but thats just me
It also depends how much you wanna grind before the 10th win ig
Had to do it w/o green side so no LC strats 
i had 32 heat before 1.0 even came out xD
Did you know that after playing fo0 for a while messes up your fo2 timings?
What a surprise that was 
also, lets not mention, making it to dad on 64 heat is already a victory in my book xD
Butterfly miniboss almost bullied me
yeah i have zero intention on touching forced overtime for that reaosn
too gamechanging and not in a good way imo
Eh
Ig
I only dropped to fo0 cuz I was doing fresh file runs
Outside of that fo2 is my actual muscle memory
is Fated Authority or Fated Persuasion better?
particularly for hunting down boons for prophecies
ima say the boon reroll one
persuasion yeah
since it lets you, you know, reroll boons
Smoldering Air makes it impossible to get the "max gauge" bonus, right?
yes, youre capped at 25%
is the special insta exploding like that normal? not a lucifer pro
https://i.imgur.com/gGKy2s9.mp4
all i have is flash fire
The bolt is hitting the bomb I think
so is self exploding with its own bolt?
Yeah
They explode with any form of damage dealt to them from any source but the hellfire blast itself iirc
so
the bolt would make it instantly blow itself up
That’s funny tbh
chiron better than rama?
Never
nvm i like the bow now lol
guys should i keep epic divine flourish or should i swap for heroic drunken flourish
I hate forced overtime 2 I hate forced overtime 2
What was the biggest missed opportunity you have felt in the game?
For me it is dying to a chaos boon that hurts you. Imagine what would hypnos say! XD
you actually cannot directly die from a chaos curse, it only brings you to 1 hp
but chaos will comment if you die while their curse is active
Losing hestia 54 when dad was 1 hit away
i see, unfortunately it didn't say anything for me yet, maybe another dialogue too priority...
oofffff that'd be a rad run
what do you mean? him using his cast? ive had moments where he threw so many casts there were 5 on the map. (while i was trying to deflect and destroy them too mind you)
he randomly throws like 1 or2 at a time and on rare occasions he throws live over 5
while theres a bunch of enemies
i usually run with rama or arthur, thus the multiple enemies usually aren't detrimental. unless they are the shield crystals or the gorgon heads
or Gilgamesh... but i haven't EM4 with it yet...
I did it eventually but that one was rough
|| when will hades let meg use her summon against him? i alr have max hearts on meg and hades||
Do you have
or skelly's summon
dont you guys just hate when you think you're about to do the pre-fight against asterius but it's actually the stupid giant soul catcher
Which spear is the best?
Achilles
Basket ball can be pretty agrivating fs
Lost the 50/50 
real
Bball is faster
Generally my preferred
Bball may be faster if you’ve got a good build/know what you’re doing but for a beginner it can easily snowball
True
anyone knows if Hades 1 is going to go on sale now that Hades 2 is out?
@fervent radish im using bestia i have triple bomb delta chamber or seeking fire for hammer
It was on sale for $8.49 but not anymore
Meh, none of them are great
people are still buying hades 1 so no
Ahhh damn i missed that
but which (im cooked)
Triple is more special but breaks rhythm
Delta gives iframe when using rail as normal
So marginally safer
Seeking is 15 more damage on shot
which is better for bestia
I think triple is prob best, but delta is a take too (kinda)
this is my first elysium run with hestia so ima take delta
10th hades run...... i thought it would be the epic ending battle..... oh well haha
it took me 32 before i beat hades once
i mean hades for the 10th time lol
oh as in the 10th time youve beaten him or 10th time youve reached him
i beat hades 5 times today so i could finish the sotry; i dont think ur meant to replay that many times at once cuz i came out dizzy irl
10th beat
mmm im still tryna beat him for the 2nd time 
Starting to think orpheus not coming back until i buy his and eurydice contract. Thats when he kinda poofed on me when i had it transferred to the contractor.
Maybe
Maybe not 👀
You two are evil ...
how do i gift persephone necter? she is never available to gift, ive had her back at the house for like 5 escape attempts now
Okay so I’m new to gaming (especially Nintendo switch), which boons or weapons are more suited for me if I need time to think about what I want to do? I have a fast reaction time but I’m not decisive. I’ve gotten to the final boss purely because I’ve got 3? Lives at one point and Demeter has a mean attack.
I don't exactly follow, fast reaction time but not decisive?
Like I can react and dodge if I see or sense an attack incoming but I’m not very decisive when it comes to attacks
Prefer long, wide range attacks because I suck at short range
Maybe the bow can help
Every time you talk to her you can try to in your bedroom and come back out and try interact again
If perse and Hades are talking in the garden and you've talked to them sometimes they might go back to the throne and you can give perse nectar I think
What’s the best way to maximize the power of the bow?
Dash strike to avoid damage, and power shots
Man Gilgamesh dash strike does so little damage
But why does it's damage seems to be a bit random?
I'm hitting skelly but sometimes the damage is 60 soemtimes it's 90
I hate the little bastards in asphodel
My mind was blown when i realised i dont immediately die when the timer runs out
Not much of a deadline uh
Running Gilgamesh without boons is quite fun, with the charged special and maim i can reach 500 damage
Oh zamn
That's nuts
Gilg feels fast and slow at the same time
4 Auto sprints is nuts
But then normal attack damage is higher
I really hate the extra dashes, and I hate they work when holding it down, unlike the rest of dashes
I really dislike extra dashes, from ang source
Though can you get more sprints from uh Hermes?
With gilga
And then you get like 7 dashes
It's fun imo if it's not super high heat
Probably, never tried willingly, and ap2 hasn't given it to me
well the Extra dashes pair crazily well woth ruthless reflex
thats free 50% damage or dodge
woth 3 dashes
And if you have dash shield or lightning it's also really good
1 dash is more than enough for me and ruthless reflex
I like speed
Hermes extra dashes are just boon to purge in my book
Different play styles
well pair it with maim and ruthless damage buff, and see the damage numbers go up
Indeed, I know I'm in the minority here, most play play with double dash
speed and dps
Though how does gilga damagework?
i personally add the damage buffs like cast and maim then focus on backstab damage
sonce you can dash strick so easily it is easy to circle and opponent. even dad
damn o going everywhere in my sentences XD
Doing these boonless runs really shower in money, i can buy the gems and titan blood easily this way
I mean like why doe the normal attack damage sometimes go from 60 to 90
Gotta hit skelly a bit more
Wait hmm? I'm sure I maxed out the hearts on meg and than at the same time
Why is meg the only one in the room?
cause than is busy
yeah, just need to clear his schedule
Right then I'll just go to her first. Wanted to do the one with both of em but whatever
you cant really control this, gotta let love come to you
Btw shadow or fiery presence?
something something backstab
Fiery only applies to the first hit doesn't it?
fiery is okay for speedrunning i guess, in general, backstab is better
Aight
And then there's boiling or abyssal blood, but I guess doing more damage is better than taking less
heres my mirror set up, aside from ruthless reflex, i believe thats the optimal loadout
https://i.imgur.com/fjx9wPE.png
family favorite can be swapped depending on what build youre aiming for
same goes for gods pride if your really depend on a duo/legendary
Sorry to interrupt but Is there a way to make sure you get the right gods or goddesses you want when selecting doors?
Or is it random
gods keepsake can guarantee that god once
unless the hammer shows up first
I’m trying to get as many duo boons as possible
yeah gods keepsake is your best bet
Noted!
Fiery is usually better even outside of speedruns
what really?
Backstabbing kinda a chore
/faster you can kill them the better
Kinda the same principle as fam favs vs priv status
backstabbing helps me kill faster
The first hits are a lot more important
Backstab is better for bosses at least
Also depends on dmg control lvl
true
Cuz clearing dc without clearing fiery is hard 
yeah priv status is mathematically better, given your build can meet the requirement, thats not always the case however
Hi everyone. Just purchased game. Is it possible to bind macros. I dont wanna spam click ranged attack button. My fingers gonna get sore
Steam input can do it iirc?
But yeah nothing stops you
Im not cheating. I just for example wanna set one button press equals 6 ranged attacks in game. That means I dont have to press the button 6 times
no one said you were cheating
i mentioning anticheating cause thats the only thing thatd stop you from setting a macro lol
an anticheat software can spot a macro and flag you
ok ill move to h2 discussion. wrong channel sorry
answer is the same, but good luck
Im only missing one more god to forge a bond with to get epilogue
got Poseidon, Hermes, Ares, Athena and Artemis
prolly gonna do Dionysus, that mf is literally free
You already have 6
whos sixth
Dem counts as one when you reach the lock
Oh lmao
but thats also good to know, thanks
also hades wiki is wrong about Poseidon
it says "catch 18 unique fish"
they dont have to be unique
there are 18 species in the game and Im missing 2 to catch them all
and I still unlocked his favor
Yeah I went through that the other day 
how much do I gotta talk to Dionysus for him to open up
cus I already did his favor
I forged bonds with persephone, hades, cerberus, eurydice, orpheus, the five gods, megaera, close to done with sisyphus
I still didnt give him enough nectar for the lock
what dionysus build can I use?
so that I have an excuse to use him
Beowulf trippy flare/chiron dio special or some variation with eris rail or fists
thanks Ill do beowulf trippy flare
Remember to swap to stygian soul in the mirror
And don't take ice wine if offered
It makes it worse
the first green mirror ability
the one that deals more damage to undamaged enemies
shouldnt that be good for beowulf?
Yeah
cool I got that maxed
Is still decent dmg for tart/wome chunk if you have fiery
Is just attack/special, same as shadow
so stygian soul is better for beowulf?
wouldnt that only give me 1 cast at run start?
Only for trippy flare is better
Cuz your cast stays on the grounds for 5s
Vs stygian's 3s
You def want extra casts from chaos as you noticed tho
or from the well
Or hourglass + buy, yeah
I assume poseidon cast is the best for beowulf?
Yup
Ig lol
Fun if you get exclusive access before hermes
But can make getting mirage annoying
oh yeah that duo is really good
Mirage is bugged on beo btw
its bugged? how?
On any flare (except thunder/slicing/icy bc lmao) the 2nd cast doesn't have reduced dmg
Sp you just double your dmg by picking mirage
oh so thats how it deals so much damage
And pray for pos or arty in tart so you can get mirage
Uhhh, I love Hades but these prices for the new merch are insane lol... 200 + dollars for a jacket or a backpack.... wild
I am talking about Hadds 1 fool
Slicing and icy don’t? That’s 
I get thunder because bolts are seperate from casts afaik
Slicing is the one I'm not sure but yeah icy doesn't lmfao
just one more reason for icy hate
chat why is there a steam achievement for 16 heat but not 32
so 100% is not too difficult to achieve
makes sense
Chat why 16 and not 64
because skelly gives you statues for 8/16/32 and not 64?
He should
He should give one at 64
true
If there was a statue for 64 I might've grinded for it lmao
doubles of the last number
2 health bars
Thanks
He gets a third one on the more difficult version
Aaaaaaaaa
Cool
I just wanted to ask couse i finally Made in All the way Up, then he sat on his knees, had a little dialog, then stood up and gave me an insta kill
You can dodge through that ring
Hey, why cant i reroll my hammers? :>
ask the devs
Change the appropriate line in some .ini .lua
WHAT? XD
wait is rerolling hammers not a thing?
I have 100 hours in hades
and totally forgot
No
and still not in 2 either 
Ah, here we are. Hammer rerolls: https://www.reddit.com/r/HadesTheGame/comments/mqdpu3/comment/guism1a/
Possibly because while everything else you can roll is related to God’s, hammers are human-made and rigid. On a game mechanics scale, it keeps the (at least on some weapons) super potent choice from just becoming controllable like everything else
I just realised your question was under the presumption you could in the first place and it was a bug in your game that you couldn’t 
for those of you that stick around 32 heat, do you go double forced overtime very often? i used to think the best angle was to just get used to 40%, but i'm starting to feel like the jump from 20-40 isn't that worth it
For 32 alone? Nah
Hl5 fo0 gets results more often from what I see
If you see fo2 at 32 is bc the player is already practiced with it
And if you wanna go higher might as well learn it now
nice to hear, ty
yeah fo2 is only practical at 32 if you wanna speedrun or go higher than 32
otherwise 40% (44% bc multiplicative lmao) is a lot
shield and bow are mechanically very similar, but the shield is kinda slow and clunky in exchange for an OP block
what
if you're experienced at 32 then no reason not to
No, not even 1
Still baffles me how that’s even a thing
i did 32 in the sequel a handful of times but only went +20% speed at most, and did my first 32 in 1 today
Fo2 speeder swordsmen 
so i'll let myself be ignorant to max speed
Tbh I would recommend just learning fo2 at like 20 heat first before throwing yourself at 32 heat with it
Since 32 heat is more punishing and you have less time adjusting to the increased speed if you’re constantly dying
i played until 14ish heat with 40% so technically not ignorant to it but i was def a bit of a slow learner lol
I think it’s just a lifestyle tbh
I can't deal.with forced overtime, I stay away from it
I can’t turn it off because I end up dashing early atp
That's I turned it off as soon as I got the prophecy
You turn it on, spend the time to adjust to it and then there isn’t too much reason to turn it off if you’ve adjusted
I didn't wanna bother adjusting, I'm fine without it anyway
Because that’s 5 or 6 heat you now have to pull from somewhere else (which gets worse to pull from as you go higher in heat) and you miss out on the speed benefits.
if those matter to you ~
Nope, none mattered to me, I don't use tight deadline, so I don't need the speed
theres a non zero chance that i look into speedrunning or high heat once i get everything done, until then i think i'll be on the blue pill
i weirdly love tight deadline
it's got 3 main benefits for speed.
- it makes enemies spawn in faster, so you can clear rooms faster
- enemies move to you faster, so you have to waste less time moving to them
- enemies prok static discharge faster if you're using a zeus build
I hate it, yes I know tight deadline at least 1 or 2 is free heat, but I can't stand playing knowing I'm on a timer, I can't enjoy the game that way
I know a few people who are like that
yeah i don't get it but i completely get it
I know a few people who even like
regularly winning under 20 minutes
won't touch td1
My runs are usually under 30, so I could easily do tight deadline 2, but nope, not doing
my runs are usually 15~ish
i used to play a lot of WoW m+ so a bunch of affixes under a timer feels not too weird
Like pausing at every exit, I couldn't do that
you don't have to pause at every exit, it's just recommended if you need to take some time for the decision
Yeah not my playstyle, I already can consistently beat heat 32 without either forced overtime or tight deadline
Modifiers beyond that simply aren't fun (to me)
did you stop posting victory screens then?
Basically, mostly because of the olympusextra mod
Which I find weird, the max heat cleared at the end doesn't show at 32, but I do have the statue, to prove it 🤣
I was just looking back and
actually sidenote
ap2 at 27 heat is insane
just throw everything to the fates
Not even, 27 is just cake walk for me at this point, that's what the 17 winstreak was on
It's when I jump it up to 32 when it becomes a bit of a challenge
I'm saying having ap2 on for that heat level
best part about not being on fo2 is being able to keep up with theseus lol
is a crazy choice compared to anything else you can take
I can't play without ap2, game boring if I can make op builds
fair ig
shackle moment
I would use ap2 even if it gave no heat
I just don't enjoy the game if I can make op builds over and over again
I didn't get my 40 heat clear until I swapped ap1 off my pact 
mainly because ap1 kept striking every single
I draw the limit at 32 heat tho
thing I ever wanted
ap would be more manageable if it didn't show you what you missed
because that's psychological warfare
Lmfao
I just insta click it and move on
Rarely I ever reroll
Unless chaos gives me extra darkness/gems
I'm sorry when it crosses out twin shot after knocking aphrodite strike and chaos lunge earlier in the run

turning off ap1 was what got me my 40 heat clear and I'll stand by that
alongside swapping from zeus shield to zag bow and taking a 6 month hiatus but those are besides the point
That's why I don't reroll, I noticed it tends to just give you the same thing even if you reroll again
I save my reroll for the well most of the time
I wonder if that’s a game code thing because really the game should be rolling a 10% chance for core exchanges
Like right, here, I actually rolled that chaos twice, and I still ended up with the darkness/gems from chaos
advantage really is more impactful when you have more options to reroll fr thou
Like core first slot is guaranteed. Core swap is only 10% 
1/100
For 2
In a row

Yeah i understand isn't for everyone, which is why i know it won't come to 2
I already requested as a mod, maybe someone listens to me
Ap2
Ap2 for Hades 2 
Fair enough

Which is also why I like ap2, I eliminates the thinking process, I just take it and do
Why’d you never push past 32 heat?
Yeah, there's def a couple things I could do, but a mod could be better
I don't like the modifers
Extra dmg, tight deadline, forced overtime
I don't find those fun
If you like ap2 you seem like you’d probably like lc4
That's reduced healing right?
Yeah
Maybe not all the way down to zero
I did use 50% healing ok hades 2 and was fine with it
Maybe I could make it work
0 just swap over to stubborn defiance ifykim
& you get them every room 🙂
I need more than 1 per room
just dont die
Sometimes you get a crappy room and died twice, happens to me a lot
glad i could help
If it doesn’t go down in 1 sd,
it wasn’t meant to be
I feel like it adds a bit of thrill to the game to try to manage your hp atp
Doubly so with hl5
Sometimes the game just hates you and throws you a really bad room when you can't use your main source of dmg because chaos said f u
hl5 lc4 ri2 
are you the one who's always running ap2
I mean I normally don’t have to deal with that issue since I don’t run ap2 and can choose my chaos curses
Yes
So that’s never been something I’ve had to think about
now there's your issue
Ok?
I'm not complaining about it
Someome suggested something else, and I'm saying why I dont

perma running ap2 is incredibly cursed lmao
Tbf chaos saying fu like that is a 1/13 chance
I love it, I probably would've put the game down after doing everything, meanwhile I got like 500 hrs thanks to ap2 
it doesnt kill you
I know, I rather not tho
y
So the actual odds of it happening to your main damage source are pretty low
I think you’ve likely just had some unfortunate experiences that stand out
I just don't want to, I don't like the chaos noise, I don't like zag complaining about it, couple of reasons
I just have zero reason to increase the heat, 27-32 is fun enough for me, manageable while still enough of a challenge
Do you still run god keepsakes given it’s ap2 or do you truly throw it all to the fates
To credits? To epilogue?
oh so you’ve still got
a lot

Just first 10 clears
I despise God keepsakes, I only ever used them to level them up
You have at least the full epilogue for story
I don't
For your average player they’re both good and also some of the most valuable keepsakes in their collection
However since they like running ap2 I figured I would ask
for every player ever they are the best option for the first biome
Indeed
Nem players -> shackle
Yes
And usually asphodel too
Not me tho, I start coinpurse everytime
retrash moment
from an objective stand point
it’s just more worth it to be able to hit your boons, so they’re super valuable for tararus and asphodel
I use coinpurse>pom flower>pom flower> spearpoint
why not acorn
I like spearpoint more
The real utility comes from being able to choose your god > the small rarity boost
A soul catcher will get rid of accorn in 2 seconds
mom pom 🗿 🗿 🗿 🗿 🗿 🗿 🗿 🗿 🗿
Yes
just dont get butterfly ball tbh
At least it’s mom pom and not butterfly/ hermes keepsake
Lmao
glad i could help
yeah lmao

but also butterflies dont care whether or not you use iframes to dodge them
bc there's more butterflies where you're going
or you get smacked by dad
Lmfao facts
There are not more butterflies in moms garden
I also use ruthless reflex, so I have less iframes than the average gamer
just kill the bball
nor the river styx
ruthless reflex is certainly a choice
Correct
im gonna go do ap2 rreflex em4 32 heat rq brb
id try it if i was on speaking terms with hades.exe
Do share
“rq”
but actually i wouldnt
it'll be quick if i dont die
i hate this game enough already i dont need to play an even worse version of it
:)
the literally anything else i've ever done in question
do you want a video or is victory screen good enough lmao
The 8 heat beo in qhestion
Either work, I love seeing people's ap2 adventures
last i checked i had like 3 wrs in other categories or something
If Jazz isn’t WR supersoaker I’m gonna be so distraught
Isn't ap2 like 5?
10 + 6 +5 +6 = 31?
That should be 27
wait
Lc4
Tight deadline and ap2 don't mix well, sometimes you simply don't have the dps
you turned on em5
If it works it works
I'm sorry, wtf is em5
mom beats your ass when you get back
Charon joins every boss fight
Lmao
real life simulator
Oh that was a joke, ok
the bear that kills zag post Hades joins the Hades fight
I'm like, did I miss smth
i'm doing modded so i get guaranteed core at the start and first hammer
and 2 sack
Ah
so my dps should be fine
Super barge
I see
Yeha no, only mods I use are auto reload, dps meter, and olympus extra
Speedrun modpack does that
so runners can get consistent runs rather than every runner needing 8000000 runs to get similiar rng to another outstanding run
I know lol
Yesterday I had a 5 room sack
Not that i care i would've gone to all 5 anyway, but that's funny it happened
man no js3 is such a breath of fresh air
anyone know if they have talked about making multiplayer
Why were you running js3
Yeah, the answer is no
iirc
at least for Hades 1, I’d be surprised if they changed their stance for Hades 2
They did, and they said no*
The answer remains no in 2
JS3 funny because you finish 20 unarmored witches and think “what a room” and then the next wave spawns
Lmfao
+60% enemies +60% waves
I want to figure out a routed Thanatos score wr
My favourite part is when chaos gives me JS4
It’ll probably happen in a few chambers of Tartarus
i was doing 55 heat runs before
If only than could show up in the basket ball room in elysium
true
Jury summons plus 69% enemies from chaos is funny in elysium
That sounds like Hell
And they don't stop coming and they don't stop-
heroic frost strike and arctic blast smh
recording and it'll also break bc of the modpack
I’m actually interested in this now lmao
No heroic killing freeze

I love Killing Freeze ❤️
i sold arctic blast lmao
The only good dem boons are snurst, rav will, and crop
I can’t think of a reason I would take another
I think I hate witches so freaking much.
Especially that one mini boss in the 2nd area. >_>
Yeah it takes 3 to 4 business days to finish an encounter
Get any sort of deflect and that room becomes a joke
Rng really be trying me sometimes tho lol.
Time to learn the meg setup then
All athena core boons deflect, so if you're really struggling just bring owl pendant
I honestly don't think her dash is that bad ngl.
Tho I always try to pair it with hangover bc chill + hangover can get wicked lol
Hangover at home
?
I was undecided on whether to take the festive fog plus lightning duo or static discharge
but I took duo
and I didn’t regret it
Static discharge-
thankfully
?
Can’t really undo that decision ig
wait was static better
Static discharge would’ve been my recommendation
Static discharge is easily the strongest zeus secondary boon and doesn’t require you to use dio cast. + most things should just die immediately to your dio cast if you use it
It’s hard to actually judge the value of jolted unless you have a dps meter downloaded
but
I have sudden rush rn so should I get charged shot, explosive return, or ferocious guard
What aspect is this
Zeus
I don’t use special much though
it’s zeus, it’s the main draw of the aspect
true 😭
If you really don’t use it often taken charged shot
alright
Explosive return is ordinarily the strongest hammer on zeus but ~
It’s like saying “oh you’ll get so much value from double edge” to someone exclusively using sword special
I already took explosive return by the time you said charged shot lol
Well then start using your special

It’s autonomous damage once you get the hang of it
that’s what I’m doing
ooh
should I do aphro to fill up my god pool or Zeus plus Ares trial
You can also start using shields knockback to smash enemies into your special
Aphro has value to go into smouldering air… depending on your call
I don’t have a call yet 😭
then she has value if you pick her up and take zeus call
alright
You have zeus, ares and who in pool?
dio 😭
She’s also just solid on shield strike since it’s a +%…
all 3 fds gods
goodness
so should I go aphro
Ok well zeus or dionysus call will do well so long as you don’t have another source of hangover
I would
okay
Do you have anyone on strike atm
You’ll be ok 
Let zeus shield damage it while you take care of the lil guys
It’s good but what are your other options
Take it
Yeah


