#h1-discussion

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stone rune
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in comparison to max heat 32 heat is free

keen mortar
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yeah heat is supposed to be a mix-and-match system where you find the combo that works and avoid the ones that don't, 64 heat only exists to give more options for 32 heat

latent moon
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yeah lol

ashen rapids
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u can achieve it with practise and some builds makes it easier?

stone rune
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i mean

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its already free

proper tusk
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how many ppl have done max heat

latent moon
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heat difficulty is not linear

proper tusk
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like 5?

ashen rapids
keen mortar
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only angel and bai quoting bananas

latent moon
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angel, bai, baj, mysterra, playad

ashen rapids
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oh it is 5 already?

latent moon
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angel and bai were unmodded unseeded

ashen rapids
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damn

proper tusk
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oh is it actually 5

latent moon
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baj is unmodded seeded

proper tusk
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i just made up a number

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i just knew it was at least 1

latent moon
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mysterra and playad used speedrun modpack

ashen rapids
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2 month ago there were only 2 people beated it

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wow

latent moon
keen mortar
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i find it funny how it's called unmodded and not something like "rng determinate" as if they were using some kind of actual game mod to make it easier

latent moon
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mysterra did it like a year ago or something? before the unmodded clears

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playad's guan yu was fairly recent

ashen rapids
opal hemlock
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do you just have to get lucky

latent moon
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yeah

proper tusk
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what aspects were the rest of them

opal hemlock
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:/

proper tusk
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was it just all zeus

latent moon
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playad used guan yu

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everything else was zeus

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oh wait i forgot poshboy

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so 6

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also zeus shield, but used aphro special

latent moon
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it was just skill at that point

opal hemlock
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i like that

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are seeded runs w/o mods? or do you actually have to download a mod to do that

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and they just call it "unmodded" bc its just that one mod

latent moon
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you figure out the seed with mods, and then do the run without mods

brisk trail
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............

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Good evening everyone, in your opinion what is the best roguelike on mobile?

latent moon
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the "modded" clears use the speedrun modpack, which just smooths out some rng so you have more viable runs

opal hemlock
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oh lol thats a little cool

keen mortar
latent moon
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also afaik they all use the first boon epic mod

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for modded

opal hemlock
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i want to look this up, but i feel like if i spend much more time looking up hades stuff on youtube, ill get spoiled some more

latent moon
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lmao if you just got your first clear, you should prob wait on it for a bit

keen mortar
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unless you are going to look at fresh save speedruns lol

opal hemlock
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its my 5th clear, but they're all in a row, soooo just like slightly afterwards

opal hemlock
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IGN video or something about a speedrunner

latent moon
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you can probably look up high heat runs once you hit the credits, which is soon enough

opal hemlock
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its killing me that i cant look up too much

keen mortar
opal hemlock
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i really think its the upgrades though, but maybe i did better too

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i cant help but undermine how well i do because im not confident with how strong the boons+upgrades are

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like the hammers literally seem so strong and i cant help but think they're the reason ive won a few runs

latent moon
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i mean you generally get 2 hammers per run guaranteed lmao

opal hemlock
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but some of them seem so bad lol

latent moon
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oh yeah for sure

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at least half the hammers in the game kinda suck

opal hemlock
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i did a run with sword with flurry and cursed and just healed and held M1 and won

opal hemlock
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i think ive almost gotten the prophecies done for most weapons, but there are a few talents that im borderline refusing to touch

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like that one arrow hammer that increases damage from far away

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there is zero chance i actually get use out of it

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im not that good at spacing lol

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or the bow itself for that matter

latent moon
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sniper shot kinda ass

latent moon
opal hemlock
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my flow definitely is choppy

wicked sage
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MEG FINALLY SHOWED UP

sullen kettle
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how is aspect of hera

stone rune
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very good

sullen kettle
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bow is currently my favorite weapon rn, maining aspect of zag and sometimes chiron

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looking to try smth new but I don't like casts

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so I wonder how hera would be for me

stone ermine
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is coronacht typically the favoured weapon by most ppl

stone rune
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no

sullen kettle
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I used to despise it though

stone rune
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i believe the most common weapons are like fists and spear

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which makes sense because people are wrong

stone ermine
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wrong about ?

stone rune
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which weapons are good

stone ermine
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is coronacht top tier then

stone rune
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it’s good

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there’s generally 2 groups

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shield bow and rail are better

stone ermine
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i looked at its aspect levelling n it looks like one of the best ones for newbies

stone rune
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fists spear sword are worse

sullen kettle
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my two favorite are bow and rail

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specifically hestia rail

wicked sage
wicked sage
stone rune
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what

wicked sage
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no weapon is worse, it depends on your play style

sullen kettle
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rail and bow have high dps

stone rune
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well fists spear and sword have lower dps

stone ermine
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bow's priority is hera right

stone rune
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yeah

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like

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you don’t choose fists

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if you want to actually deal damage

sullen kettle
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hera is my favorite goddess so I will get her aspect

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maybe I will discover something new

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maybe I will start to like casts

wicked sage
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you better

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casts start to get hella powerful later in the game

stone rune
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casts are the best scaling source of damage

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attack will fall off

wicked sage
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and even for attack builds, people use casts to get more damage out of the attack

nova loom
wicked sage
stone rune
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reddit is a bad source though

nova loom
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Bc its fun

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Lol

stone rune
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the issue with fists is that fists suck

nova loom
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Its fine to just go with what you like playing

wicked sage
stone rune
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how

nova loom
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I dont think you need to take it so seriously unless going for wr or high heats

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Just have your fun with it

stone rune
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no playstyle will give fists higher dps or more safety or more consistency than any other weapon

proper tusk
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i mean

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it is true

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but its not true

wicked sage
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confusion

proper tusk
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if youre more comfortable with spear youll do better with spear but it is definitely worse than other weapons

sullen kettle
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spear is boon needy imo

stone rune
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i mean all of this also strongly depends on aspect

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bow and shield are good but chiron and chaos are complete garbage

sullen kettle
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chiron isn't garbage

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it's good but also daedalus needs to bless you

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so it isn't really consistently good

stone rune
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no it's garbage

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you need insane rng to get still bad dmg

timid quiver
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chiron really is horrible imo because if you can get your attack up high enough then what’s the point of the special seeking the last foe you last attacked. its no good in tartarus through asphodel and unless if daedelus loves you or you somehow get great boons it’s complete garbage

proper tusk
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i dont really understand why i see so many ppl say chiron is good for new players

stone rune
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the issue with chiron is the insane delay on everything

proper tusk
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its so bad at low level

stone rune
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as well as the low dps

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and the complete lack of any aoe

timid quiver
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for new players I mean it may help but after a while it does you absolutely no good

stone rune
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fists are also not good for new players

timid quiver
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they’re definitely an acquired weapon

wicked sage
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what is a good weapon for new players then, in your opinion

stone rune
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any rail

proper tusk
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ive never had a fists build that does a lot of damage without merciful end or max demeter

stone rune
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very easy to pick up with simple builds

wicked sage
timid quiver
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most zag aspects aren’t really the best tbh

stone rune
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zagrail is good

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zagbow is pretty good

sullen kettle
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is flurry shot good with hera

timid quiver
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in my personal opinion — i just prefer focusing on other aspects

stone rune
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i guess the in slot part doesnt apply

wicked sage
brisk trail
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less than 10 fingers in the world

stone rune
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take flurry

wicked sage
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most of the time take a flurry shot when you see it

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works on the aspects its available on (and i tested it on rama via codex mod, and it seemed pretty decent there too)

stone ermine
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which gods r better for the bow

sullen kettle
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ok I see the hera hype

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I am just a bit clunky with it

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but I should get better

proper tusk
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no idea whats good for zag bow

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i did artemis with twin shot and hunters mark and hunter dash once

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that was good and fun

sullen kettle
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oh damn

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I am using dionysus cast

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for hera

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rip ig

proper tusk
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thats also good i think?

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pretty sure crush shot is best though

sullen kettle
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hera

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7 seconds to spare

rustic vale
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not the star of the shields by a long shot but it’s solid

stone ermine
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what mirrors do i prioritise on the bow

rustic vale
rustic vale
sullen kettle
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something about hera, it clears the satyr caves so fast

rustic vale
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The only time mirror ever changes is if you’r erunning trippy shot on beowulf/hera

sullen kettle
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I hate the satyr caves

rustic vale
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Otherwise your choices are pretty much always the same

rustic vale
stone ermine
latent moon
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fiery presence
chthonic vitality
death defiance
greater reflex
boiling blood
infernal soul (stygian is fine too tbh)
deep pockets
thick skin
family favorites
dark foresight
gods' pride
fated authority

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that should be your ideal mirror

sullen kettle
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ok soo I just cleared with hera

rustic vale
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Fiery presence, cthonic regen, death defiance (unless 32 heat+), greater reflex, boiling blood, stygian infernal soul, deep pockets, god’s favour? family favourites , dark foresighg, gods pride, fated authority

sullen kettle
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it's good though I am kinda bad with it

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I get hurt with it too easily

rustic vale
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oh I got gods favour mixed up with family favourites

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whoops

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And stygians mixed with infernal

sullen kettle
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maybe it's because I used trippy shot instead of aphrodite's cast

latent moon
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use aphro cast and dont try and charge the shot up all the way

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you can for carther enemies ofc but you generally just wanna min charge it at a close range

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it's why flurry is a good hammer for bow

rustic vale
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Which is why flurry is a good hammer for hera*

wicked sage
rustic vale
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Zag bow exists zagpls flurry is still a good hammer there but it’s not the best hammer like on hera

wicked sage
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flurry shot's worst aspect is probably chiron and even then it doesnt do too bad

rustic vale
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Eh

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I’d probably take flurry more times on chiron if I was focusing on special with it

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mainly because just applying that focus

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But idk

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I like my dash strikes to have the rythm

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and flurry takes it away

sullen kettle
proper tusk
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scroll icon spotted

wicked sage
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thank god i wanted to die that time

rustic vale
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dash nova to get prophecy out of the way, shadow slash to not just get kicked in the shins

maiden narwhal
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wow i idled in courtyard all night

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my poor laptop

rustic vale
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Shoot

maiden narwhal
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i thought i'd make this one last 10 years but wow i've probably halved its life in the first 3 months

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maybe i'll just drop it down a flight of stairs and ask for a new one

they have coverage for that

sullen kettle
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guys am I using the wrong mirror buff with hera

maiden narwhal
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damn the bug still seems to be there

sullen kettle
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infernal or stygian

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I am using infernal rn and I feel as if it's not correct

proper tusk
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are you using trippy flare?

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bc then you might want stygian

sullen kettle
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I am using crush shot now

proper tusk
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then def infernal

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more casts is good

rustic vale
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and so… most casts take infernal

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it’s really just trippy shot & maybe sometimes demeter where you would take stygian

sullen kettle
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ok so I found that

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when I use hera I take really long

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I almost run out of time with 7 minute pact

rustic vale
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huh

proper tusk
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thats not supposed to happen

rustic vale
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eh

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getting used to the mechanics of hera is hard

proper tusk
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thats fair

rustic vale
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and it's a nightmare if you have bad keybinds (controller experience here)

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but at the same time you also need to be able to manage your casts and build it properly

proper tusk
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my first time playing beowulf i had A attack and Y cast

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nearly uninstalled the game

rustic vale
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yeah, for both beowulf and hera I would remap cast immediately

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sooner into your hades experience the better

proper tusk
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right trigger cast my beloved

rustic vale
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x cast > y cast

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x cast sucks still but like

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400 hrs of muscle memory are hard to break so

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moving it elsewhere would throw me off

proper tusk
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im gonna be honest i dont actually know where buttons are

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i play on steam deck and i use nintendo button layout

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its a struggle

rustic vale
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is steam deck letters different to switch?

proper tusk
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yeah a/b and x/y are swapped

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but i spend so much time playing totk i couldnt get my brain to switch so i just changed the buttons

maiden narwhal
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adrenalin is one hell of a drug

proper tusk
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lmfao sorry

rustic vale
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that

proper tusk
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i remapped the buttons

rustic vale
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Doesn’t make sense to me tbh

proper tusk
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so when a game tells me to press A

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i press the right button

rustic vale
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Yeah that makes sense

proper tusk
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which is B on steam deck

rustic vale
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ok that makes a lot more sense

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I thought you had done the opposite

maiden narwhal
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OH NO THE KEYBOARD FREEZE BUG IS STILL THERE

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i can't even alt tab

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i reinstalled the game what more do i need to do

sullen kettle
rustic vale
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Keybinds are

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To my understanding

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A bit better by default on keyboard for hera

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since if you want to attack, cast and dash on hera on controller

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That’s normally all controlled by your thimb

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3 main actions all done with thumb

sullen kettle
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i feel like best keybind would be right trigger for cast and left for attack

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I don't play controller tho

rustic vale
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I mean

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I’ve got on the right side 4 buttons

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The left is attack and the bottom is dash

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The right of those by default is cast

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Afaik the usual swap is moving cast to a trigger somewhere

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My issue is with 400 hrs of muscle memory, moving it anywhere is

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painful

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Agony

maiden narwhal
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didn't work

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tried with guan yu skewer but still no

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idk why it's so hard to switch attack to right click, but the brain does not want

sullen kettle
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oh

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sucks then

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kbm supremacy!!

maiden narwhal
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masterrace

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tbf anyone who can play fps properly with controller is crazy skilled

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how do you strafe jump aim shoot all at the same time?

rustic vale
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They usually give you aim assist for controller games

maiden narwhal
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oh

rustic vale
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yeah

maiden narwhal
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i thought aim assist was v frowned upon

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for fps

rustic vale
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well like

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The alternative

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Is whag you can imagine

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for

maiden narwhal
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people used to get insta kicked/banned for aimbot

rustic vale
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an fps on controller

maiden narwhal
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i guess they were using it on pc tho

rustic vale
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It’s not aimbot

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It’s aim assist

maiden narwhal
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like hades?

rustic vale
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Like

maiden narwhal
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if it locks in, it's autoaim

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hades has autoaim

rustic vale
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It isn’t locking in

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It’s like

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Oh you’re pretty close

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Herem: the rest of it

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Afaik

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It depends

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I know games like fortnite have a slider for how strong you want it and it’s genuinely unplayable at high levels

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I keep trying to aim myself but then I end up overcorrecting

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But I also haven’t played fps on my switch since I got my laptop so

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It’s been a few years

sullen kettle
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fortnite mentioned!

maiden narwhal
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idk why people even TRY to play fps on consoles

like... people loved that golden eye game back in the day and i fkn hated it

sullen kettle
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btw fortnite is the reason I am here rn

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bought hades because of the new fortnite season

rustic vale
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What.

rustic vale
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?

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Oh if’s just like tangentially related

maiden narwhal
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when i play fps i always have two direction buttons held down
i am never not sprinting, and never not jumping, ever
crouch only exists for pressing mid jump when going through windows

it would be completely impossible to play this way with controller, even with aim assist

sullen kettle
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Got me back into greek mythology (Used to be a massive fan) and I looked for other greek mythology related games

rustic vale
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a

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Like

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idk

sullen kettle
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and hades was the #1 pick everyone said

rustic vale
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I play way more aggressively on controller and I turn my aim assist down far

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like 0-10% of what I’m given for options

maiden narwhal
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changed my screenname to that

rustic vale
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Ohhhh

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Wait

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I read you wronggg

maiden narwhal
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oh you thought i said i never jump?

rustic vale
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Yeah no that’s kind of how I play unless I have a bow or sniper

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Yeah

maiden narwhal
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fkn lol

maiden narwhal
rustic vale
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“Never not” my eyes just glazed over the not part

maiden narwhal
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which is why i can't imagine it with controller

rustic vale
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I mean I don’t jump constantly

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But Imm constantly running around

maiden narwhal
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feels weird to not
same as if i'm not dashing in hades

rustic vale
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Eh jumping in fps games is like

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Unless I need to do it to get somewhere

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Why am@I doing it

maiden narwhal
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so idk if you've ever played deathmatch

but the first thing you learn there is if you stop moving, you're dead

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my mouse is always going 360

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i never stop looking everywhere

rustic vale
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Yeah but jumping just means theres more you to get hit tbh

maiden narwhal
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i couldn't play hitman zagcry

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i played it cs style

rustic vale
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As far as I’m concerned

maiden narwhal
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we used to instacrouch when we saw a badguy

rustic vale
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not crouching but

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jumping just puts you more i. Their line of fire

maiden narwhal
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i guess it's where you're jumping to?

maiden narwhal
rustic vale
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if yoj’re jumping at them there is more you at line of site

maiden narwhal
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no she didn't but that's what she would've done if she was around then

stone rune
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if u stay in a spot too long someone will obviously notice you but if u sit somewhere for a moment its not like 700 people will pre aim and instantly blast you

stone rune
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what thingy

maiden narwhal
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moving in a circuit also counts

rustic vale
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I was a big warzone gamer

maiden narwhal
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usually for armour domination

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armour control wins games

rustic vale
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and like

maiden narwhal
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but

stone rune
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what thingy

maiden narwhal
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play quake 3 rocket arena

rustic vale
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Loved sniping with the small scopes

maiden narwhal
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and see if you can get away with sitting still

rustic vale
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Something about popping heads with scopes that nobody else uses

maiden narwhal
stone rune
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when

maiden narwhal
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aeons ago

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idk

rustic vale
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& all the other snipers just tell you where they are with glint scopes

steep condor
stone rune
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cs source?

maiden narwhal
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no

stone rune
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ratz

maiden narwhal
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i think it was the one with the psychedelic colour scheme

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and you had a pistol

stone rune
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cruelty squad???

maiden narwhal
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and were doing a circuit and getting headshots i couldn't understand

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because of the range

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but i don't know that game so

stone rune
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like the singleplayer game

maiden narwhal
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no

steep condor
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team fortress 2?

maiden narwhal
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no no

rustic vale
maiden narwhal
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someone commented on the colours even

void vigil
stone rune
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this?

maiden narwhal
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yeah that one i think

stone rune
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thats cruelty squad

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and its singleplayer

rustic vale
maiden narwhal
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yes that one

rustic vale
maiden narwhal
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OH

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lol

jagged hamlet
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busted

maiden narwhal
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i was wondering why your opponents were so STUPID

rustic vale
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Something something tidal dash

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Idk man as

maiden narwhal
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i was like why is she posting this video she's obv playing noobs

stone rune
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bro

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LOL

rustic vale
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What else Hades is there

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Bugowulf

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This is definitetl a hades conversation trust

stone rune
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back when i could aim

maiden narwhal
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why everyone playing rail

stone rune
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its instagib

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ratz instagib

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theres only 1 gun

maiden narwhal
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lmao back in the day someone did a framegrab of a quake rail kill and he hit the dudes' hand

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i want to see what ratz is like

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do i have to buy it

rustic vale
stone rune
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its like 2 bucks

maiden narwhal
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is gameplay smooth?

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and fast?

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i don't like this one shot business

stone rune
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are we watching the same game

maiden narwhal
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get yo headshot

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i stopped watching

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after 2 seconds

rustic vale
maiden narwhal
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so i'm asking how the keyboard handles

rustic vale
stone rune
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its very smooth

maiden narwhal
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cool i buy

stone rune
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it has no players

maiden narwhal
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i see

stone rune
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you need to ping in the discord to get a server

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and you can only get a few people on na or eu

maiden narwhal
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can we 1v1

stone rune
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no

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i dont have access to my steam rn lol

maiden narwhal
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just as well

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i hate 1v1 in fps anyway

rustic vale
maiden narwhal
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proves v litt

rustic vale
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How jazz supposed to sub2 if no steam

maiden narwhal
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lmao in hero arenas when you kill someone and they're immediately like COME 1V1

stone rune
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u can still launch exe

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anyways u should watch the video

maiden narwhal
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nobody can sub 2

rustic vale
stone rune
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i got a few ultrakills

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vorime can sub 2

maiden narwhal
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the pl will not allow

rustic vale
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Someone hasn’f done rheir homework

maiden narwhal
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when the bad guys have phase shields

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how tf you going to sub 2

rustic vale
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those don’t last 2 minutes

maiden narwhal
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no but it lasts

stone rune
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bosses are like

maiden narwhal
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however long it lasts

stone rune
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8 furies

maiden narwhal
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and it's time you can't control

stone rune
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20 lernie

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3 heroes

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22 dad

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in routed

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well

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not routed

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in runcontorl

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in routed eris sucks too bad to get a good furies

maiden narwhal
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what is the shortest dad kill possible?
mathematically?

rustic vale
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Sub3 has been done

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For the whole

stone rune
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i have a sub3 lol

rustic vale
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the whole run

maiden narwhal
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i don't understand how, when you have to wait for all the phase animations

stone rune
#

i have a 2:25 or something

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bosses are less than a minute combined

rustic vale
#

They literally just told you the numbers above too

maiden narwhal
#

those are seconds?

stone rune
#

yes

maiden narwhal
#

lmao

rustic vale
stone rune
#

anyways dont talk to me anymore i have 56 minutes to complete this assignment and i have not started it

maiden narwhal
#

i couldn't figure out what the numbers were so i ignored them

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ok

stone rune
#

also no lo

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i have a 23 second dad

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and it wasnt even that good

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best dad is somewhere around 20 seconds

rustic vale
#

Checks out

maiden narwhal
#

how long does a sub 3 take in real time?

stone rune
#

like 10 min

rustic vale
stone rune
#

22s is the current unseeded wr

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there are 20 second ones in runcontrol

maiden narwhal
#

go do your homework

rustic vale
#

So how long are the phases actuallt bouldy

maiden narwhal
#

yeah she just listed the shortest kill times, not the phase times

rustic vale
#

Actuaaly need food bye ttyl

maiden narwhal
#

well i'm going to go kill stuff then

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btw if i want to climb heat

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how to do

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55?

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or 51?

rustic vale
#

uh

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Have you done50?

maiden narwhal
#

i mean..

rustic vale
#

that sounds like a no

maiden narwhal
#

wasn't that implied?

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lmao

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if i am asking 51 or 55 then yes, i have done 50

stone rune
#

do 54

maiden narwhal
stone rune
#

no

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ri2

maiden narwhal
#

i'd rather do ri

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ok good

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thanks

stone rune
#

also shut up dont reply to me

rustic vale
#

After 50 each next heat is just going to stack and stack so jumps are harder

stone rune
#

i need to do my homework

rustic vale
#

I’ll yell at u if you come back

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Or maybe I’ll just ignore you

#

I wonder which would work better

maiden narwhal
rustic vale
#

so

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54

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🧠

rustic vale
#

This can’t be a real build

maiden narwhal
#

i'ma play eris not hestia

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i am bad with hestia

rustic vale
#

Anyways go to homework

stone rune
#

then 56

maiden narwhal
#

don't talk to ME

stone rune
#

im doing the homework

rustic vale
maiden narwhal
#

badly

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do it goodly

stone rune
#

i want to do it so that its done by midnight

maiden narwhal
#

idc when you do it do it well

stone rune
#

i only care about doing math well

maiden narwhal
#

it's not like i didn't do 2 months worth of work in 2 days

that was all 4 years of uni

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i read 1000 pages and wrote 40 in a weekend once

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that was sick

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do it well anyway
even if you don't care

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not that hard

stone rune
#

my school is like hard

maiden narwhal
#

that's why you're there

rustic vale
#

jazz what does 1+1=

stone rune
#

17

rustic vale
#

W

maiden narwhal
#

eleventeen

maiden narwhal
#

i didn't know they still did sat

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my brother got a 1600/1600 in math

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you suck

stone rune
#

they dont score like that anymore

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when i was 12 i got like a 1400 on the sat i think

maiden narwhal
#

wait it was 800 math 800 verbal

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he got a 1540

stone rune
#

800+800=1540

maiden narwhal
#

you still suck

maiden narwhal
#

800/800

stone rune
#

i also got perfect in math

maiden narwhal
#

lost some in verbal cause essay idk

stone rune
#

because the sat math is made for 7 year olds who have not yet learned to count

maiden narwhal
#

i got a 297 in toefl /:

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idk where 3 points went

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it's lol they even made me take it

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they told me no [native] canadian would score close to that

rustic vale
#

too busy living in 🇨🇦 for whatever an SAT is

maiden narwhal
#

it's a sat

maiden narwhal
#

it's pronounced sat not ess eh tee

stone rune
#

i feel like i have gotten significantly stupider over the years though

maiden narwhal
#

me also

rustic vale
#

like the word for sitting in past tense?

maiden narwhal
#

that'll happen anyway

rustic vale
#

ess ehh tea just makes sense

stone rune
#

when i was like 11 i took wisc v and got like 160 or something and now i feel like id barely scrape 130 or something

maiden narwhal
stone rune
#

like

maiden narwhal
#

some aren't, like nasa

stone rune
#

i cant count and i cant read and i cant remember anything

maiden narwhal
#

i can't remember the word for it

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but there's a word for it

rustic vale
#

I've only ever heard people call it

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the S. A. T.

maiden narwhal
#

the ess eh tees?

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fair

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i might be wrong also

#

but fairly sure they were also called sats

#

what is wisc v?

#

must be american

stone rune
#

one of the new iq test

maiden narwhal
#

your school system is so weird

#

no child left behind ruined your whole country

maiden narwhal
#

you gotta work harder to not get dumber

stone rune
#

i skipped 2 grades

#

but now im back at normal

maiden narwhal
#

i wish i'd failed everything in highschool, but RETAINED it all

stone rune
#

because this school is hard

rustic vale
stone rune
#

true

maiden narwhal
#

i did upper level math for my gcse board exams

i used to be able to do iteration

stone rune
#

im in calc 3 rn

maiden narwhal
#

now i am the most innumerate person i know

stone rune
#

but this part seems rlly hard

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we're learning line integrals

maiden narwhal
#

if you see my scrabble score sheets they're covered with me doing simple arithmetic

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when i count my score i have to do it aloud

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annoys the hell out of people

rustic vale
#

as someone who like

#

is pretty good at the complex math stuff for my age

#

basic math is what trips me up

maiden narwhal
#

i skipped 3rd grade

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graduated at 15

stone rune
#

i skipped 3 and 5

maiden narwhal
#

they wanted to skip my brother two but my parents wouldn't let them

stone rune
#

well i technically did 5 and 6 at the same time

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which basically meant i skipped it

maiden narwhal
#

nice

stone rune
#

although the school i was in for that portion of my educational career was horrendous

#

i learned absolutely nothing

#

as i was leaving i was using like

#

blocks to cube numbers

maiden narwhal
#

i wish i'd done 4 and 5 at the same time

stone rune
#

or something stupid

maiden narwhal
#

but i guess the double promotion exam knew what it was doing

stone rune
#

thats why im happy to have gone back grades

#

ill be able to actually get a lot of math done during high school

maiden narwhal
#

wow i haven't thought about this in 25 years

#

go do your homework

stone rune
#

ill have finished up calc and real analysis and lin alg and stuff

#

im doing it im doing it

maiden narwhal
#

memory lane is a potholed piece of garbage

#

jazz do you skip class

#

ever

stone rune
#

no

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well i kind of did this morning

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because my alarm didnt work

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lol

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went to sleep too late and it didnt wake me up

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but it was my worst class so we chill

maiden narwhal
#

i mean in general

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it's something you'll hate yourself for

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eventually

stone rune
#

no i dont ever skip class

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the school is online lol

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if im really getting bored i just play bullet chess or hades or something

steep condor
#

are you doing your assignment while chatting on discord

stone rune
#

yes

steep condor
#

ok then

stone rune
#

ok i finished

maiden narwhal
#

nice

#

too much hestia

#

i forgot how to play eris

proper tusk
#

shoot gun

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shoot bomb

#

enemies die

steep condor
#

reload

maiden narwhal
#

zag die

#

all time

#

it gave me my forced boon in an erebus
and dio for the first door

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this is cheating

#

the game is cheating

#

hammer seed, and dio first door when i have zeus charm on

#

how

rustic vale
#

You take erebus

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C2 erebus is like 3 enemies total

maiden narwhal
#

it had a big skull on it

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do not wan

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and also i don't get my boon if i don't pass?

#

ridiculous

rustic vale
maiden narwhal
#

yes doesn't that also mean the room is more difficult

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to clear

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will have a heroic in it

rustic vale
#

No heroics

#

Can only get heroics from exchange, rsre crop, eury

maiden narwhal
#

thought skull meant miniboss

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and therefore better reward

rustic vale
#

Skull means miniboss, means better reward

maiden narwhal
#

the ones that're red

rustic vale
#

Ohhh

#

All enemies are armoured if thats what you mean

maiden narwhal
#

no

#

the red ones are.. more armoured

rustic vale
#

that’s what you mean

#

Anyways

maiden narwhal
#

all aren't red

#

so

rustic vale
#

The tartarus ones are always

#

Ez

maiden narwhal
#

i don't think you know what i mean

rustic vale
#

especially the chamber 2 one

maiden narwhal
#

yes but that's not my point

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my point is forced boon should be a door

rustic vale
#

The chamber 2 one is in my experience always a 3 enemy rolm that can be cleared without concern

#

oh no it isn’t it’s the end of the world

maiden narwhal
#

well

rustic vale
maiden narwhal
#

on eris?

#

if i don't get my zeus attack?

#

it is

rustic vale
#

just take the erebus bouldy

maiden narwhal
#

no

rustic vale
#

it’s a c2 room

#

it’s c2

maiden narwhal
#

it's rubbish

rustic vale
#

It’s 3 enemies

#

3 enemies

maiden narwhal
#

and one of them is enormous

latent moon
#

didn't read chat but im guessing you got erebussed

rustic vale
#

it’s 3 enemies

#

doesn’t matter that one is massive

maiden narwhal
#

no i didn't get erebused my first boon was hidden behind an erebus

#

and the door was dio

rustic vale
#

Just use your special for damage

maiden narwhal
#

not zeus

#

that's nonsense

latent moon
#

yeah that's erebused

maiden narwhal
#

ah

rustic vale
#

you got erebused

maiden narwhal
#

then yes

rustic vale
#

anyways

maiden narwhal
#

good and proper

#

first time

latent moon
#

i mean if it's c2 just take erebus, and if you get hit just reset the run

rustic vale
#

It’s not a huge deal unless you’re playing at <4 heat

maiden narwhal
#

yeah i guess it's just never happened

rustic vale
#

or are speedrunning

maiden narwhal
#

kinda threw me

#

i can't get past c7 btw

#

for love or money

#

so

#

i beat sneak flawless and died to a mob of skulls

latent moon
#

on hestia?

maiden narwhal
#

eris

rustic vale
#

Did you not take the erebus

maiden narwhal
#

54 hard

#

so so hard

rustic vale
latent moon
#

oh lmao yeah

rustic vale
#

Just take the erebus anyways

maiden narwhal
latent moon
#

54 do be like that

maiden narwhal
#

i don't think casuals can play past 50

latent moon
#

casuals generally dont go past 40

rustic vale
#

it’s 54 but like you’re dying without zeus strike so

maiden narwhal
#

ok then enthusiasts can't go past 50

maiden narwhal
latent moon
#

just do 51 lol

#

i've done 51 twice, and one of them was recorded

#

but like

#

50 is hard lol

#

expect to die a lot

#

shouldn't be particularly surprising

maiden narwhal
#

50 was like.. 3-4 runs

#

but i guess i lucked out with the build

stone rune
#

up to 54 is p easy

opal hemlock
#

is there a way to farm fish? or do i just bring the poesidon trinket and that legendary mirror upgrade

stone rune
#

can be done with minimal practice

#

past that idk

steep condor
latent moon
#

yeah that's more or less it

#

theres also the well item that forces a fish in the next available room

#

so check wells

opal hemlock
#

i love that one, i wish it wasnt so expensive lol

#

im also trying to get titan blood from charon so it always worries me

#

def something i think about, thank you :)

latent moon
#

focus on clearing more than buying the titan blood

#

the 1.2k gold can be used in multiple places to improve your build over the run

opal hemlock
#

i didnt know that you would get rewards so easily by raising the heat until yesterday

rustic vale
#

Sitting on 1.2k gold is just asking to die without spending it

#

Compared to using it to improve your shot at killing the big man

#

& the overall speed of that happening

latent moon
opal hemlock
#

i just raised 1 heat and all four rewards refreshed, but i havent seen if its like that for 2-3-4-5+ heat

stone rune
#

i mean im not good at heat

opal hemlock
stone rune
#

but i still was able to decide one day that i wanted to do 54 and then i did it

opal hemlock
#

but my max heat is at 1 so lol

stone rune
#

because hestia good

rustic vale
latent moon
rustic vale
#

Use tartarus shops to help guarantee who’s in your build

maiden narwhal
#

my hestia 32 progression was very straightforward
die at lernie
die at heroes
clear

40 progression is stuck at can't kill dad

rustic vale
#

Use later shops to boost your run

opal hemlock
maiden narwhal
#

but 54 eris is going nowhere

#

die c5-7 repeatedly

latent moon
#

im assuming ri2?

maiden narwhal
#

yes

#

55 hp

#

one hand killed me lol

latent moon
#

yeah you dont have thick skin so safety is out the door lol

#

hestia is generally safer

#

so not too surprising you're dying off the bat lmao

rustic vale
#

you can’t remove them from your pool from there

steep condor
#

i was on irl forced overtime the past few weeks and sick with major headaches this week. haven't been able to clear any high heat like that, even died at low heat

so, theoretically, people with different pre conditions would have a harder time at the game

rustic vale
#

Once yohr pool caps the game stops giving you more gods

#

(Aside from hermes and chaos)

steep condor
#

also playing on steam deck makes my small dainty hands hurt after two runs

stone rune
#

i have the pre condition of sucking at games

rustic vale
#

So when I say “control your build” it’s predominantly

latent moon
rustic vale
#

Ensuring which gods are in your pool

#

& where they are on your cores

stone rune
#

literally though

latent moon
stone rune
#

hades is the first game i’ve been good at

#

4k hours in gd and people with less than 200 can still be better than me

#

1500 in cs and i’m garbage

latent moon
#

i mean i literally said you just have natural talent

rustic vale
latent moon
#

and considering how you keep talking about yourself here

#

you're probably better at those games than you give yourself credit for

#

and im frankly getting sick of hearing you keep talking like this about yourself and putting yourself down every minute you can

opal hemlock
rustic vale
#

If you picked up the 4th god in a shop

steep condor
#

you're not only putting yourself down, but everyone else that's worse than you (~95% of players)

rustic vale
#

It’s possible

latent moon
rustic vale
#

Cuz chaos & hermes don’t count towards the pool

steep condor
#

yeah

rustic vale
#

pool

maiden narwhal
#

it's the dunning kruger effect; comptent people always think they're not as good as they are. incompetent people think they're better than they are

that's why idiots run things

latent moon
#

the 1% is just like 5 speedrunners max and various high heat runners

opal hemlock
#

i might have picked up hermes in a shop earlier that run but i really dont remember atp

latent moon
#

which frankly is prob less than 1% anyways

rustic vale
steep condor
#

i prob shouldn't have put a percentage

latent moon
#

yeah but it gets the point across anyways lmao

stone rune
#

idk i think a lot of people are better than me

maiden narwhal
#

lmao imagine running away from the mobs

rustic vale
#

More than 399/400 people are worse than you

maiden narwhal
#

instead of into them

stone rune
#

i just play a lot

maiden narwhal
#

that's what 54 is

latent moon
rustic vale
latent moon
#

that doesnt discredit you

rustic vale
#

“oh I would be better than you if I put 4000 hours in” -source?

#

Proof?

opal hemlock
#

why did i just unlock the aspect of guan yu? is it bc i cleared a run w heat?

latent moon
#

even if that number was 20 somehow

rustic vale
latent moon
#

that's not a big number

rustic vale
#

Jazz name every person better than u at Hades the videogame

opal hemlock
rustic vale
latent moon
#

5 non zag aspects

opal hemlock
maiden narwhal
#

can i use flood shot to remove dc without losing fiery?

rustic vale
maiden narwhal
#

it's a question of dealing with separate groups

rustic vale
#

Any damage is damage dealt to them

#

Ah

#

If you want to

maiden narwhal
#

i'm just wondering how the splash works with it

stone rune
maiden narwhal
#

specifically

rustic vale
#

I can’t see why it wouldn’t work

latent moon
rustic vale
#

How is cgull better than u

stone rune
#

he has like allweps sub6

latent moon
#

even if you include the high heaters

#

that's not a lot of people

maiden narwhal
latent moon
#

and you gotta realize

#

you're in the god damn top 0.1% of this game

#

stop saying you suck

rustic vale
#

interesting

#

Since he’s got all weps sub 6

#

Ur bad?

stone rune
#

i mean im not bad

rustic vale
#

But you suck at Hades no?

latent moon
#

then why do you keep insisting you are

stone rune
#

i dont

maiden narwhal
#

i cleared 50 and i suck

rustic vale
#

That’s the impression I get from how you talk about your skill level at the hit game hades

#

Miss has a sub3

stone rune
#

ok literally anyone can sub3 the dio beo seed

latent moon
rustic vale
#

Mhm

#

Lets hand the game to someone who’s never played Hades before

#

or hell me

stone rune
#

most people’s first attempt is like 23x

latent moon
#

you do realize like

#

the only people have attempted that were like

#

the people you listed as "better" than you

#

so like

#

literal top players have run that

rustic vale
#

Or people who are actively going & prepping their Hades game for it

#

That’s exclusively big Hades gamers

maiden narwhal
#

DELTA CHAMBER SUCKS

#

ENORMOUS DONKEY DONG

latent moon
#

like there's multiple things you need to realize about yourself lmao

#

that you're much better than you say you are first of all

rustic vale
#

I refuse to believe I could sub3 with the dio beo seed

latent moon
#

secondly, you need to recognize that not everything is easy for other players as they are for you

rustic vale
#

Beowulf is one of my worst weapons

#

Even seeded I’d have a better shot at it with zag bow

#

and that would not be anywhere close

#

to sub3

#

It’d be like sub7 and theres no shot I’m sub7ing with beo even in optimal conditions

maiden narwhal
#

what seed would you force on eris, if not delta?

#

rocket?

rustic vale
#

I literally just cannot wield beo properly

maiden narwhal
#

yeah beo feels weird

maiden narwhal
#

it's easier to control the reload and not have the broken iframes i think

#

until it isn't i guess

#

three bullets is not enough when you have 55 hp

rustic vale
#

Delta chamber is good, but it’s not the best eris pick

latent moon
#

i think this is the first time i've heard someone complain about delta chamber lmao

rustic vale
#

I mean if’s way better at high heat zi think

#

Oh for sure

maiden narwhal
#

it's like driving automatic vs manual

#

no delta more tactile

latent moon
#

you also have to get more in the face of enemies to make use of rocket and getting the boost out of that

maiden narwhal
#

i like the feel or hitting r

#

yeah that's the point

#

i'm in their face anyway

#

that's why delta is killing me

#

with delta i have to run away a lot