#h1-discussion
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so
this is what ModsEpic should look like
a combination of the speedrun mods and also the epic boon start mod
what
modimporter was only with speedrun
its supposed to be in content
lol
yeah it was gg
shut up lol
i need the game open while running importer, then restart?
no
you were right about it taking time it took 3 restarts to get it to show up on my new download
dont have the game open
maybe you are 90 years old
hold on
idk
you should have modimporter in content
you should have two folders
with mods in the title one way or another
ok
and in the version with the firstboonepic mod
as long as my first boon is always epic i'll assume it's working
when you open the folder hades-firstBoonEpic you should see a lua file and a text file
and thats it
i am exactly half of 90 ):
my first boon was a hammer lmao
first boon was rare
cursed
i did exactly what you said
let me try to run importer again
has anyone tried hades on mobile?
still not working
jazz what is happening
ugh forget it i'll just clear with common
i have no idea
yeah thanks for trying
lmao bombers lined up, meg hit all 4
finished them flawless
@stone rune what is your fastest hestia
6:18
wow
my fastest furies is with 59 seconds lol
took me like 80% of your clock to get out of tartarus
yo if i pick up sweet nectar before eury should i go poms?
i mean 4 vs 5 pom levels isn't like that big of a difference lmao
unless you have 5 boons and you missed the one thing you wanted to pom lmao
haha i can totally see that happening
do you guys shop when fee is maxed?
do you path gold over heart when fee is maxed?
when i played cf i would literally not buy anything
then again i used to not buy anything in general and just save for titan blood/diamond in the last shop, so it didnt make much of a difference for me
and depends if you feel like you need the hp over the shop i guess
i usually only shop in styx
because when cf is full i can never afford anything anyway
hestia?
yestia
do you have a third boon that's unpommable that's just not showing?
cf1 or 2
max
pom attack, hope to see another pom later for dash (shop latest) and sell sweet nectar afterwards tbh lmao
i mean you can keep it
and try to get another filler boon to sell
it's not a waste really
it's just the best option imo
assuming you dont get another boon after this btw
but also you're putting a lot of value on too many boons lmao
so you kinda just gotta give up sweet nectar since it's not directly giving you damage yaknow
yeah
you'd rather keep tidal dash and get +1 poms on that
oh i mean if it's a question of give up one of the 3, duo is a nobrainer
i didn't realise you were assuming no other boons before customs
hoping to get a 2nd pom at some point would be ideal, and you can afford shop pom always so that's a safe bet-ish
yeah taht's what i asked for unpommables that didn't show up lmao
i always forget about customs tbh
this late into tart and i have too many high value boons, gotta keep in mind what to pom in case you gotta sell one of them
sucks sometimes
yeah lmao
cf max i go darkness over shop
especially in tart
i just don't see the point of them showing me everything i can't buy or don't need
If ur on tight deadline take shop
oh just for the free room
that goes against my grain idk
i'd rather try to beat the clock
than waste the farming and reward
Also in like elysium one free room = one more room you will not die to

i mean you take the time save for future biomes, not for tart lol
ely can absolutely suck for time
and i'm so slow with hestia
yeah so you wanna bank up as much time as you can
ok shop it is
hestia is one of the fastest aspects for tartarus
but falls off kinda hard at ely
so you wanna bank time in tart and aspho for ely specifically
going aphro attack, forcing arty as a second god is fine on hestia....
right?
have you sold stuff for UC yet
no i just killed furies
and alt tabbed to here
this is how i used to die to lernie lava after killing her
sell for uc first then pick keepsakes
before i had desktop discord
this is not important to my build
it is important to make up for my handicap
i bound reload to mouse so i have no cast
arty cast is the only thing i can use lol
with no aim at cursor
if i want to lodge
you take arty for the special not the cast
the meta supports arty for the special not the cast
if you're taking her for the cast then dont even bother
so i will take her on both
just take tooth
game doesn't particularly decide that for you lmao
The dash
he already has tdash
i will make it
Sell tdash get hunter dash
and i didn't mean this run i meant in general
Why
you can aim the cast with wasd lol
because i don't have it bound anywhere useable with no aim at cursor
i'm not that good
i'm usually facing the opposite direction of the thing i'm attacking
or dashing away from idk
when i attack or special i'll hit them
when i cast it'll go into a wall
so either i use dem cast or arty cast
or ignore cast completely
i mean boiling blood is only important on like bosses
and you have time to aim properly
yes i can get tsiphone perfectly lol
and lernie ofc
but lernie is a waste of lodges
so it's only for fury, asterius, and dad
i don't bother with theseus lodge he's usually almost dead by then
and he has that idiot shield
and casting takes forever
it's also nice on mini bosses btw
especially couple
who are the only mini that can end my run
๐
even arty will go into a wall if you don't have enough room for a wide arc
that actually only leaves dem
beginning of the sheet
dem cast is consistent because it does nothing regardless of wether it hits or not
sell dash
trust
hwhat
hunter dash ๐ฅ ๐ฅ ๐ฅ ๐ฅ
dont then
i lose confidence the longer the room lasts
second god zeus for call and smouldering?
i'll just pretend i don't have cast
until dad when i switch back to aim at cursor
sell shoals lmao
you'd rather keep usable/good cores and sell the support boons
most support boons aren't worth keeping unless it's like snow burst on castpects
i dont like having any boon on hestia other than hunter dash and aphro special
i sell everything else
zeus attack
๐
unfortunately your opinion is wrong
try again
what do you attack with?
fact-ory i just got that
?
i died, came back, and one shot the dude
i didn't reload
and he was a head that killed me as soon as he spawned
nop
so he had full hp when i came back
this is what happened
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what am i doing wrong?
why doesn't my damage keep up to one shot?
is it because attack boon is common?
im not understanding the situation lmao
look at the dudes' health bar
he takes 2 actions because he's left with 2hp
it's ridiculous
i mean
you prob just dont have enough damage lmao
that's just something that happens
yeah but it feels like when it's that slightly off, i should be doing enough damage, but i've done something wrong
but if it's just something that happens then ok
annoying as all hell tho
i'm slow enough with hestia already
i mean lvl 4 rare atk that's like what about 100% damage?
that's not like excellent lmao
as long as it keeps up with the mobs
i figured it would scale that way, as long as you made decent decisions
i got epic hyper and common rd /:
to one shot aspho enemies you need like ~130% for speedrunning
which is assuming like high confidence
and other stuff i believe
so youd need a lot to one shot aspho stuff
i guess rocket to the face to clean up works fine
or tdash
at 40 heat with hestia you'd go acorn for heroes?
might be in that guide jazz posted
prob lmao
at which point i won't need it
this is the breakpoing spreadsheet
god dammit dyno
the ultimate hestia guide link doesn't have the spreadsheet on it tho iirc
@latent moon You're posting links too fast.
smh
ah
hunter. dash. ๐ฃ๏ธ
i'm not supposed to one shot them
when i git one level gudder
for heat not really, you just need a whole lot more % additive for aspho
and it's not too practical
esp with AP and UC
when i was doing hestia at one point i started with hunter dash
with hunter's dash it's more doable tho lmao
when i started hestia i went by the guide
which said aphro and zeus
it said arty on attack
but that requires more skill than i have
currently
๐ ๐
how dare you dyno
apologise immediately
anyway marked was nice but the damage when you weren't critting was p nonsense
hestia guide doesn't say anything about arty atk and says zeus doesnt have anything particularly useful lmao
lmao epic hyper lets you circle the shield dude before he can turn to face you
not that guide, clearly
the other, broader guide
oh that one
tbf smair kinda works on anything lmao
it offers 3 alts for every weapon i think
idk that sounds about right
yeah it's wonderful
and rn i have epic jolted but the only thing that triggers it is the near miss dash lol
that's good
that's less consistent until you get smair lmao
lightning reflex thing
suscks on hestia
ruins fery
fiery
it's still more consistent than reflex
oh yeah i forgot about that
ah i didn't think of that
it was what ap forced on me anyway
because i saw the purple and clicked before realising i should've taken rare cast
thats why i dont like any dash other than hunter dash
reflexes procs more often over time than call does
they remove fiery
yeah tidal takes it away so often
just have a beefy tidal dash so that it does more damage than your actual shot
lmao yeah
๐ ๐
i think in tart, rocket does more than your empowered too
it does not
rocket does 80
so it doesn't matter what you use to open with
also u dont want rocket for heat
well with some mobs it doesn't make a difference then
ricochet shot is good
i'd rather rocket than try to fiddle with timing special?
and hazard if u use special
it's like two bullets instead of one
wdym "fiddle with timing special" just throw the hazard bomb lmao
i dash in, hit empowered, hit rocket, keep dashing
rocket for heat is fine but falls off in ely
hazard is great for ely since it's still a nuke
ricochet is nice but if you're forcing hammers, might as well do hazard so your special is more useful
that's also likely since you're using hestia lol
is ricochet 100%?
115% iirc
i've never been in 40 heat ely i don't think
so let's see
bounce shot does +15% damage
yeah
...

i feel like doing a hestia run now
just made man pushing boulder uptop and gay warrior happy
i'd take rocket over ricochet anyways
bouncy empowered sounds like a fun thing
if i clear with rocket i will try that also
unless i forced hazard first, then i dont really have a choice in taking rocket lmao
piercing is like
rico better
except it really threw off my flow for dad
ricochet at home unless you can line up shots consistently, which doesnt happen too often lmao
yeah but then screen gets pretty full and you hit stuff by default
but ricochet way more consistent
lol i didn't know i was standing over a hammer this entire time
and it has ricochet \o/
i get to play both now
i found explosion to be Okay for hestia but
ricochet is better
and piercing
sometimes daedalus really hates you
gotta roll with it
lmao i one shot no armour chariots
sick
ricochet so good for the 5 eyes
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i am wondering
why is aohrodite considered better for hestia than artemis
I mean ik it's a big boost but artemis has a decent boost and crits ๐๐
wat u need are poms lmao
why did you say hestia falls off at ely it's way easier than tart
or i got a godly build going
ricochet makes it so cool
Aspect of Nemesis
I truly believe Nemesis players are sardistic as hell
i picked up zeus call in styx shop
should i pom tdash to 2 or jolted to 4?
go for splash dash
i don't know
with ricochet do i really need dash damage in styx
to clear
not at all
what would sophie do
jolted would be most useful for dad
or would it
do you have trouble beating dad
yeah i can't always gaurantee a win
he got me with one hit left on him last run
well one of the failed 32 runs
then jolted
cool
Poseidon boons are useless against dad anyway (most of the time)
dash for sure
sigh
mistimed sack, went into dad with 10% hp, gg
i had a build that made ely easy ):
yeah against the big muscle dudes rocket does 20% less damage than empowered
well. idk how much less damage.
but with rocket they have 20% hp and with empowered they're dead
false epic reflexes clears tart faster than fiery does
then give it to customs
i mean your build is kinda strong lmao
but also it falls off in ely bc you're not one shotting or nearly one shotting most things
it really was ):
at least generally
with ricochet, i'm going so fast
ofc if you have a strong build then ely isn't that much harder than tart
like eris almost
eris and hestia are about similar in terms of speed lol
i meant more like playstyle i guess
have you tried not dying
i didnt
this is where achilles comes in handy
the greek hero not the aspect
achilles summon wouldn't do much
achilles was known for single handedly defeating entire armies
is my point
the way they're advancing on him looks like something out of the trojan war
oh right i forgot about that part

and the rollgave me the exact same rolled items that the 2nd hermes did
wow
:rush deez:
witches are super easy
unless you dash at the one in the middle
AND SHOOT THE ONE OVER HER SHOULDER THAT'S NOT EVEN IN THE SCREEN
then it's gg
i threw off everything i ate so many bullet
lmao then i forgot i lost my defiance and went for a lava bath and ended my run
depresison ๐
eat so u can have energy
let's see what ricochet is like as seed

delta is useless
it's just useless yeah lmao
lmaaoooooo
i know
why on earth did you think
i was being serious
it'd be most challenging 50 clear ever
jazz couldn't do it
wow i'm horrible with hazard bomb
ares or athena?
"So rusty" beats very hard thing
it shouldnt have been so close
better to dash strike and not special than special and not dash strike
better to have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy

but yeah i never used special in that run
i did once or twice and it only screwed up my rythm
its nice
ah well
im never gonna use hammer in styx again
did you use the hammer or the anvil
anvil
yeah anvil can lead to some big meme moments
only use it if the upgrades you already have are already the worst
i just lost my good upgrade and got meme upgrades
thats sad
lmao
i did it cus i had a lot of money
but never gonna do it again
too much money and you wanted to spend it on something, i assume?
yep
if you have a good one why did you take it
ah i see
cus im an idiot
"huh"
"the anvil"
"f it Imma gamble"
if a trap steals my kill, do i get the gold?
Yes
is it me or are Zeuses blessing hella weak
no
Maybe you're using them wrong weapons
zeus boons work better on weapons with low dmg but high hit rate
like fists and spear(with flurry)
There's also Zeusยฒ which is really strong
prolly
Yep
did you spend all your rolls on hermes ?
i knew i shouldn't have rolled zeus twice when ap took away lightning rod
that's what i did wrong
gr

I'd never roll zeus there tbh
Rama is probably one of the aspect that needs lightning rod the least. You already have great damage
or hestia ? idk, seems like one of those
Is there guide for which weapons which gods are good
Thanks
guide?
hestia, yes
and i wanted lightning rod because i don't have a reliable cast
can't find somewhere to bind it that i can use it in a fight
you don't really need a reliable cast
it can be used for aoe in a pinch, I guess. If it's athena/poseidon/zeus
hades bible
sell hypoersproitn
Hades bible
I call that 9-5 propagandas
hey yall know lv 4 Hades right?
superdad, yes
you know how when you defeat him, he is litterally flabbergasted,shocked that you actually did
saying he went all out just like when he fought the titans
and to me, he kinda wrong, bro didnt go all out he went ABOVE and BEYOND
back then the titans were reigning Hades werent harboing the power of the underword
mhm
and yk how busted the underworld has aid him
and plus
he got older, stronger, more experienced
I bet there are some people who could single-handedly win the titanomachy
like haelian
Zeus spamming light bolts yea yea but still
compared to how he fight Zagreus
its litterally true to say bro went easy on the titans
lol
speaking of the titanomachy, don't you find it weird that hestia shows up with a goddamn assault rifle
nope
I mean the cyclops crafted lighting bolts
like ones that you can hold
gun is like, toys compared to that
like, Poseidon has a sword, Hades a spear, Zeus a shield and Hera a bow
But then you got Demeter and Hestia fighting the titans with mittens and a modern gun
so to conclude, man's relationship with his own son is hella messed up, he went above and beyond to give Zag a godlike whooping none Titans has ever experienced
heh, I remember more arms
and then Zagreus starts to absolutely steam roll his father even in em4
"dad I just wanna see the fresh air"
"he he hell naw" *proceeds to do a 14 hit combo
and I really mean a combo
the moment Zagreus grabs aegis hades is doomed
it's the modern game day Thor and mjolnir
because that's wrong, not many people use fists 
I mean here we don't lol
but not stygi or Varatha
But is def a common choice
have yall experienced
Nemesis aspect
and Artemis build
Yes
that's if you put best girl on attack
having to special every 3 seconds get annoying fast
not that I hate nemesis
I canlive with that
tho, should I bring up another disgustingly strong build
sure
it is the Excalibruh, with Aphrodites boons
oh aspect of arthur
the weak effect reduces the enemies dmg, and can be upgraded
sword already special more than every 3 seconds
- it can also be given another effect
your rotation is dash-strike -> dash-strike -> special
Nah, I'd spam
i think the reason why I don't like nemesis is because I play on kbm
it's much harder to assign buttons to get quicker
I put special on a side button of my mouse
I don't have a side button
I switch between cast and special for the right click
wth would you spam ? 
I just started and need help getting better binds
which side
thumb side ?
Left
I'm not specialling with my pinkie 
oh that exists
Left mouse button
no
I know
It's on a lot of gaming mice
I meant left side mb
not left click
forgot that there are mouses with more than just left click right click n scroll
Yeah
What should I bind my special and dash? RN I have special as Q and dash as Shift
well I suggest
do you use special often?
Q as right click
Yes
My cast is m2
then special to right click
just buy a mouse with a side button, there are like 10 bucks
you don't need a gaming mouse
you mainly spam Special and attack
Switch both around; Q is now the cast and RMB is now the special
not on cast aspects 
aw yes 10 bucks
sounds like a 10 hour shift pay
tell me.about it
well imo, you kinda need to special while dashing for a lot of weapons
10 dollars is like 500 in my currency
Taxes rip
and cast is like, just spam at a safe place bruh
Alright what about dash? Shift for dash is kinda wonky
for cast weapons simply alternate between cast and special
its goated
stick to the original space
Ive grown dashing with shift
what's my handle
That's even wonkier
got it

now I just realized why I was so bad at games...
i do from: @maiden narwhal and no results
space
space is the default too I don't know why you would change it
you might change it if your coming from Roblox or smth but you would eventually switch back to space
what charger
this is a controller thing isn't it
like, I use a laptop and whenever I plug in the game goes into perfomance mode or some
that's probably normal
the game feels faster, instead of smooth and slow its quick
and more reactive to my input
well yeah
turns out having power is pretty good for computers
wow, a discovery
i was putting the @
skill issue I know
build issue
just go flood flare -> artemis -> mirage shot
then snoozefest as you OS everything with your eyes closed
flood flare and Artemis don't do anything for me
the only thing that does good damage are passion flare and trippy flare
Are you pomming flood flare to level 6+?
ah, that's the issue
Yeah cast builds basically all need the cast to be level 5 at least
noted: pom the ever living crap out of the cast
Lvl1 -> lvl3 is already 60 -> 121 damage for common flood
whats mirage shot
Arti-pos duo
Cast creates a 2nd cast with reduced dmg
sounds interesting
Both on flares it's bugged
And the 2nd cast doesn't have reduced dmg
whats flares
Casts while using beowulf
Or hera + dio's cast
Normally all casts are "shot"
(or beam for dem lol)
Using beo they become flare
Cuz they explode 
oh intersting
The only exception to this is thunder flare
Cuz it's hilarious and has 0 cast dmg 
Blizzard shot is funny
Or cod
Yoyo talos is also like it's meme
Just figure the boss dmg yourself
hmm i'll try pos cast and see what happens then
@stiff obsidian empowered definitely stays if you lose a defiance
just happened with meg
i reloaded, died
came back still purple


it was a nice run also
You?
more or less
i didn't even know skulls could spawn there
Skulls as in numbskulls?
Was that erebus
no
is it possible for bp to summon skulls?
Nope 
then no idea
Erebus would be the only way to get different enemies not from your biome
Yeah that'd make more sense
Also unless you are using dc on your own, the answer is always savior
Dc is the pact that gives them the starting blue hearts
Savior is the bp perk that gives them the blue aura that guves hearts
(damage control)
All the bp perks
the invulnerability of saviour is the same as dc right?
one hit?
is it better to play backstab with guan yu?
Yeah same blue hearts
Also I think fiery is better
Better breakpoints for enemies
In other stuff
Check out the VOD yesterday's beautiful live orchestral performance from @Official_GDC!๐ต๐ป Featuring a special performance from @DarrenKorb and @AshBarrett at around the 22-minute mark! https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2096457179
In the blood live
skullomats can spawn in asphodel
armored skullomats
Ah
and those can have bp perks iirc
i was so sure they were skulls!
armoured and jesus'd
and they spawned on top of me
not a hope in hell with hestia
not a hope in asphodel lol
i mean the skullomats spawns skulls
they prob just wandered over or something lmao
but numbskulls by themselves dont spawn in aspho
Is that dave
holy moly
celeste right after it is also very nice
celeste music :)
The game says I will loose progression whe launching without internet connection.
I suppose they just say this because I MIGHT loose progression if my cloud save is never synchronised after playing on this computer with no connection.
But except that really specific scenario my save will be alright?
I am using steam btw
Probably a better question for #h1-tech-support
u mean steam?
yeah itll most likely still work fine if u launch
ofc it wont cloud save until u launch again from the computer
Hades is on mobile?????
ye
Coukd i beat zag
no
zag is not real, he can't hurt you
yeah
i assume this definition
defeat (someone) in a game or other competitive situation.
but this is not possible
c34 than :)
33 was than

guys how do you refund hades, i have 93 hours of playtime and 100% but didnt enjoyed at all, i want my money back ( sorry guys i just need money for hades 2 )

didnโt enjoy it at all? dang. anyway for refunding it depends on where you got it and how long ago you bought it, im pretty sure. varies store to store
yeah, not even a little bit ๐
thatโs really unfortunate, actually, with everything in the game. was it the game style or storyline?

bouldy omgs
i have1500 hours can i have refund
thatโs a total of 2+ months dang
game sucks
the history was a total ripoff of god of war ๐
you did not just compare gow to hades
not mad or anything but they really arenโt that similar
judging a person on the dimensions of games they play really is low level
iโm sorry i will do better on the future
i mean Iโm not necessarily saying you have to change but I donโt understand why someone would judge someone over such a simple opinion. You do you though, honestly
canโt tell if chatgpt or troll
Just for clarity's sake, zag, both vetbaited and Vickenzenith are being goofy
yeah
i mean i still need money for hades 2
that was not a joke
lmfao unfortunate
Person who doesnโt get sarcasm
So chatgpt?
or just autism lol /pos
Yeah I didnโt want to say that directly but I meant that
Also doesnโt have enough UI elements to be a big boy game. What are hades players afraid of? Reading?
Needs a weekly bonus challenge widget, minimap, kill counter, always on boon text, etc
damn good luck
My prediction is dead to heroes or out of time at heroes lmao
real gamer afterall
congrats holy crap
Get the anvil!
em4 funny time
did you see my fail the other day 
Just don't lose twin shot
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lmao you wish
i was gonna say funny sack rng but i realized youre playing modded
Get both Styx Hermes and anvil duh
What'd you sell
hustle
hopefully not cast
it worked out anyways
no athena
also how many chambers is the 2nd tunnel again
so I don't mess the hp reset
3
First is 4-5, second is 3 combat then sack
So 4i guess but it's 3 combats
Just noticed hades is on Netflix lmao
Was going to download it but my phone too old for it
man i really do need to get it asap
oops all damage
alright hera cs build
and i get offerd athena or dionysus
who should i take
im just gonna take dio
Hera counterstrike build
hi im fairly new to the game
and just beat the game
is max heat possible
do you earn anything for it
max heat is possible yes, it's been beaten twice without the speedrun modpack
you dont earn anything other than bragging rights tho
there was a funny thing that happened where a youtuber said it wasn't possible in a video and then someone beat it a week later, and then said youtuber also beat it a month later
okay so heat is not an "achievement" thing, but just something they add extra
im literally such a completionist, this is not gonna be good for my mental ๐ญ
but im glad my account won't be "uncomplete" if i dont finish max heat
there's no way haelian beat 64
feel like we would've heard about that when that happened
ohhh i see this video....it was 8 months ago and they havent even made a single change to heat mechanic?
the game gives bounties up until 20 heat for in game progression, but after that it's just funny number
game hasn't been updated for years lol
once it got released they didnt make any changes
yeah....doesnt anyone else think that max heat should be more accessible??
y'know when your brain just makes stuff up and you believe it 100% occasionally
this makes sense
only angel and bai have beat 64 unmodded afaik
lmao happens
right it was bai
i just sort of joined the community, so i thought it was a live game
did the game get a lot of updates when it was being updated?
it's "live" in the sense that the devs are making another game lol
i mean android just got released and the sequel early access is coming in the following months
yeah there's #hades-patch-notes, you can read through that if you want
that's like the stuff from early access
tbf they didn't expect people to beat it lol
damn i didnt realize how late i got into this game LMFAO
they designed it for 32 heat, 40 heat max since the game has an in game reward for 32 heat
ive been trying to stay spoiler free for so long that i didnt even realize the game hasnt been updated since 2021
50 is like the most "reasonable" high heat people can beat if they really wanted to
is 32 "easy"?
in comparison to max


