why did i get this game on switch
#h1-discussion
quasi dust
stone rune
unmodded is a completely unplayable form of the game
stiff obsidian
yes modded is good like that
maiden narwhal
but can sack be in second tunnel but you still lose patty, because of the number of chambers being random?
maiden narwhal
ok
stone rune
each tunnel has 3 or 4 mini rooms
quasi dust
could i ask what patty is im confused
stone rune
hes the guy that gives tosd
stiff obsidian
if u get patty in c34 u can ewven go 3 tunnels without losing patty
quasi dust
ohhh pat
maiden narwhal
styx dude
maiden narwhal
i didn't know you guys didn't clear styx
stiff obsidian
he makes stubborn revive 80% of ur hp so hes very usefu
maiden narwhal
to buy out the shop
quasi dust
i mean
maiden narwhal
wym
stone rune
thats insane too
quasi dust
yeah
stiff obsidian
🗿
stiff obsidian
🗿
stone rune
bro
maiden narwhal
hwo do you leave all that behind wow
quasi dust
i mean
maiden narwhal
it is LOOT
maiden narwhal
but charon has so much more stuff
quasi dust
i getchu dw
maiden narwhal
this only 2 passages business is insane
quasi dust
i used to do that too i simply got bored of it
maiden narwhal
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/879755279481339975/1217167830965817395/image.png?ex=66030ae0&is=65f095e0&hm=0fe5c2424361658dd6d68cb44c06cec6a3b5d425ef31b46ad9da4e9b683c12e7& "high heat is 95% decision making"
stiff obsidian
pom it
stiff obsidian
battle rage is useless here
maiden narwhal
then why tf i put so many points into it 
i think i thought it was the other one
that boosts attack special and cast
yeah
there are only 2 boons in styx passages and they are ares and dio
i am actually going to be going against dad with no special
at least it's a rocket
stiff obsidian
that boosts attack special and cast
that is kind of useless too
maiden narwhal
oh
quasi dust
oof
stiff obsidian
yeah its like barely 15% or something if pommed i think?
maiden narwhal
hm
ok maybe i'll sell it for gold for charon?
the aphro is 850 tho ugh
eh i'm overthinking this
stone rune
id have sold aph call into styx
maiden narwhal
because i'm too close to fail
stone rune
btw
stiff obsidian
why
maiden narwhal
id have sold aph call into styx
wasn't an option
stiff obsidian
zeus in poo
maiden narwhal
poor zeus
maiden narwhal
[cess]pool
quasi dust
lmfao
maiden narwhal
dio ares hp or gold?
maiden narwhal
i only have 239 gold no way i'll be able to afford the aphro boon, so no special
stone rune
do you have enough money for any poms
maiden narwhal
what ap level
1
stone rune
because blade dash could be really funny
maiden narwhal
ok but clearing would be HILARIOUS
stiff obsidian
big means miniboss door
maiden narwhal
you did not find the sack
you do not collect 200
maiden narwhal
big means miniboss door
oh
no, it was smol
now i have 2 minutes for sack and dad 🤌
i need DAMAGE
i can't even kill the little mouse things
lavish sorrel
unmodded is a completely unplayable form of the game
listen, it's a question of habit
if you never play modded much in the first place there's less chance it becomes the presumed standard for one
stone rune
listen, it's a question of habit
if you never play modded much in the first plac...
my habit is being able to leave tart within 5 minutes of playing the game
i cannot do that habit unmodded
and if i do its guaranteed barge
maiden narwhal
i was too fast and dashed past a purge pool in the dio tunnel
i could've gotten rid of aphro
lavish sorrel
and if i do its guaranteed barge
correction, that's a 1/3 
stone rune
its guaranteed
lavish sorrel
1/3 = 1... YEP that sounds right
stone rune
the only reason i play unmodded ever is that sub5 would be really funny
stone rune
1/3 = 1... YEP that sounds right
this will be math in 2010
stiff obsidian
am i dumb
maiden narwhal
welp
i had 1:26 to kill dad
and phase 1 took exactly 1 minute
gg
so most people here haven't cleared 45 unmodded?
or..
stiff obsidian
yea
maiden narwhal
then why am i doing this to myself
stiff obsidian
because its cool
maiden narwhal
if sack had been in 2nd tunnel instead of 3rd, i'd have cleared
that kinda sucks
ah well
quasi dust
so most people here haven't cleared 45 unmodded?
or..
i sure havent, nor am i close to that
steep condor
so most people here haven't cleared 45 unmodded?
or..
wait, what
stone rune
fell like 1:26 should be close to enoguh
stiff obsidian
if sack had been in 2nd tunnel instead of 3rd, i'd have cleared
just play modded
stone rune
with +3
stiff obsidian
+3 does not increase you damage
stiff obsidian
contrary to popular belief
maiden narwhal
fell like 1:26 should be close to enoguh
first carousel beam and td death happened at exactly the same time
maiden narwhal
i don't think it had time to reach me even
steep condor
this is like when i came here and found out hell mode does nothing but make your life harder until like heat 50
stone rune
you attack each time u dash
so more dash is more hit
but i had a similar build and 1:41 dad
stiff obsidian
but you hit the thhing
the limit
lvl 3 epic joly
thats like
most of the damage
maiden narwhal
but i had a similar build and 1:41 dad
you had a dash
they are worlds apart
athena dash?
stone rune
ddash is fake
maiden narwhal
which is like dash++
stone rune
and bad
stiff obsidian
it doesnt do anythin
maiden narwhal
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/771815559410876446/1128866738952482938/...
can everyone here read this?
stone rune
?
maiden narwhal
it's not all squished for you?
quasi dust
it is
quasi dust
i mean i can
stone rune
its fine
quasi dust
readable in my eyes
steep condor
it's squished but readable
quasi dust
exactly
stiff obsidian
its a canon event to go wtf at their screenshots the first few times
quasi dust
lmao
stone rune
i mean now i just screenshot obs
maiden narwhal
its a canon event to go wtf at their screenshots the first few times
no, that's not what i was getting at
it can't zoom and it's too small for me to read it because my lazik wore off
and i'm just wondering exactly how bad my eyes are, rn
quasi dust
oof
steep condor
oh w/o zoom i can't read it either
quasi dust
yea same
maiden narwhal
oh
can you zoom if you open it in discord?
because i can't
or my mousewheel is not zoom like it's supposed to be
steep condor
i'm on mobile discord and i can zoom in normally
maiden narwhal
oh
web discord is awful
but it's easier to alt tab and type than pick up my phone
quasi dust
i just open it on desktop discord and it looks fine to me tbh
stone rune
you can only read it while listening to 2x Speed Mozart Left Year Bible Chinese Right Ear
quasi dust
lmao
maiden narwhal
installation instructions included \o/
is the mods directory supposed to be in hades\content?
will it work if it's in hades\content\hadesspeedrunningmodpack\mods?
ok i think i fixed it
what mods did angel use for the 64 clear?
and does supergiant recognise a modded clear?
stone rune
wdym
void vigil
she cleared it with mods, and then she cleared it unmodded unseeded
fringe dust
what mods did angel use for the 64 clear?
there's a heat version of the pack with epic first boon, that's the only difference
maiden narwhal
she cleared it with mods, and then she cleared it unmodded unseeded
wow
stiff obsidian
yea its another mod
upper wolf
oh, is that the one people use for 64 modded ?
I thought it was, like, mostly the "base" speedrunning modpack that is used
stiff obsidian
most people who play heat use first boon epic
upper wolf
yeah
maiden narwhal
do i want real time or igt?
upper wolf
It's just so much better with it
stone rune
the world if i ever saw epic doom ever
stiff obsidian
basically anything you hard reset for early. is just forced through mods to make ur life easier
upper wolf
do i want real time or igt?
if you're not speedrunning, I recommend making your own settings
stiff obsidian
do i want real time or igt?
igt
or what juncoril said
but real time preset removes thanatos encounters afaik
maiden narwhal
not srue if i can make my own settings i have no idea what's going on
the hammers page is v confusing
maiden narwhal
but real time preset removes thanatos encounters afaik
that's fine i hate them
mint coral
the hammers page is v confusing
It forces the first hammer to be the one it says in the menu
mint coral
that's fine i hate them
They stop the timer 
mint coral
When you find your first hammer only the one there will appear
maiden narwhal
so this thinks i have 4 hammers?
upper wolf
no
mint coral
One per aspect
upper wolf
it's per aspect
maiden narwhal
ah
mint coral
If you set delta on eris it won't be delta on zag/hestia
maiden narwhal
no i lied i still don't understand
if i change top right to delta chamber
what about all the rail ones below it
oh wait
upper wolf
you're have the ones under them
upper wolf
maiden narwhal
but this won't force hammer seed, right?
upper wolf
Zagspect/random/olympian/hidden
nah
you might get your first hammer in asphodel if your unlucky
maiden narwhal
they're in same order as when you select them
i have not actually seen the weapon list in forever
i played zeus shield so long, i had to google "hestia"
upper wolf
it keeps the normal 75/25 odds
stone rune
the world if i got anything other than literally the worst option possible at every junction
stiff obsidian
🙂
maiden narwhal
Zagspect/random/olympian/hidden
i went to google if eris lived on olympus and now i'm stuck reading the whole wiki
maiden narwhal
you might get your first hammer in asphodel if your unlucky
i don't want hammer seed i hate it
doesn't really matter when it comes
maiden narwhal
i went to google if eris lived on olympus and now i'm stuck reading the whole wi...
apparently she lived in erebus
so you are spared her wrath
also there were no temples to her so whatever
what's she going to do
maiden narwhal
yeah they sucked
zeus turned into an actual golden shower once
to rape some poor mortal
maiden narwhal
zeus turned into an actual golden shower once
bit on the nose
stiff obsidian
sheesh zag rail sucks
maiden narwhal
sheesh zag rail sucks
yeah it can't kill a damn thing
idk why they even have that rail
stiff obsidian
lets see if i can do wr - em4 for another aspect
maiden narwhal
poubelle is Standing Guard
stiff obsidian
ok
stone rune
but it also suck
maiden narwhal
i had a 33s dad on it the other day with instadarkness
how?
stone rune
by shooting him
light cove
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1088591737309638746/1217185475840966799/i...
Murder
stiff obsidian
zagrail players when they take 50+ seconds to kill an armoured thug
false side when
false side when
fa
maiden narwhal
what is vorime
and how do i save my settings? or do i have to set them each run?
hey.. i set the mod but i'm still getting boon intros
devout terrace
hey.. i set the mod but i'm still getting boon intros
run the modimporter
after closing the game ofc
mint coral
what is vorime
You'll get the 4 core boons on the first boon
maiden narwhal
run the modimporter
i did that.. that's how i have the mod configuration to begin with?
mint coral
You'll get the 4 core boons on the first boon
Is called like that cuz vorine (runner) didn't get cast on the first hades run in games done quick
maiden narwhal
ahaha
devout terrace
can you give a screenshot of your content folder, and then your mod folder
maiden narwhal
can you give a screenshot of your content folder, and then your mod folder
sure
hang on
barren bridge
https://i.imgur.com/29yVaNd.jpeg thoughts on build so far
stiff obsidian
windows users
gray apex
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/879755279481339975/1217195785066774588/im...
Should work, what is the modimporter log
this exe version is also slower so make sure you give it enough time
stone rune
https://i.imgur.com/29yVaNd.jpeg thoughts on build so far
live ares call reaction
barren bridge
live ares call reaction
its for selling
sacrofice
eres is useless and irrelvent in this run
but he need to get him self in 😒
luck
gray apex
Looks oke, would probably pom Jolted and Shoals and stop with the Attack. It's too late in the run, but it appears that your god pool is not full so would be nice to get an Athena Dash/Call
maiden narwhal
@stone rune you have a 5 minute eris run?
stiff obsidian
does anyone have a 5 min eris run
stone rune
the wr is webs 5:04
gray apex
There's a few
barren bridge
Looks oke, would probably pom Jolted and Shoals and stop with the Attack. It's t...
i got them really late thats why they are not pomed good
stone rune
with like 130 aspho or something
barren bridge
im in sewers now
stiff obsidian
meant usb5 but yeah
barren bridge
i doubt athena just apears
stone rune
no sub5 because eris sucks too bad
maiden narwhal
Should work, what is the modimporter log
my starting keepsake also didn't revert
stiff obsidian
☹️
maiden narwhal
no sub5 because eris sucks too bad
show me your fastest eris then
fervent radish
what's your fastest non recorded
stone rune
i think a 6:51
fervent radish
something where i'm faster than jazz? tell me it's not true
fervent radish
yeah ik
stiff obsidian
something where i'm faster than jazz? tell me it's not true
just do any hades spear run ever
fervent radish
true
maiden narwhal
does pressing escape cancel animation or something?
stone rune
?
fervent radish
my 11 hour all aspects run will be faster than jazz too dw
maiden narwhal
why do you keep hitting escape
fervent radish
it pauses timer
stone rune
because i want to pause
maiden narwhal
why
stone rune
to stop the game temporarily
fervent radish
gives time to think about routing through rooms, make decisions about doors/shops
maiden narwhal
to stop the game temporarily
is english your third language or something?
stone rune
??
maiden narwhal
gives time to think about routing through rooms, make decisions about doors/shop...
idgi
stone rune
what r u talking about
mint coral
gives time to think about routing through rooms, make decisions about doors/shop...
Also works for seeing where enemies are spawning
fervent radish
^
when the game is paused, IGT does not run
you can think
you've never wanted like
maiden narwhal
i'm never doing that nonsense
fervent radish
that's funny
stiff obsidian
same
maiden narwhal
people call that gaming rofl
mint coral
Be glad we don't have codex tech
latent moon
people call that gaming rofl
Not everyone pauses as much as jazz does
Jazz is one of few who pauses that much
jagged hamlet
jazz is a pro speedrunner 😮
mint coral
Also that, tho for me is just bad habit 
latent moon
There's also rta where it uses real time so you don't pause
maiden narwhal
i see zero point to being good at speedrunning if that's how you have to do it
gray apex
No one does it basically
maiden narwhal
so
stiff obsidian
can you pause buffer your way through em4
gray apex
For most people it ruins it because it breaks the rhythm of the entire room
latent moon
i see zero point to being good at speedrunning if that's how you have to do it
Then don't pause that much lol most people pause on door choices and entering a room and that's about it
And cerby call pause buffering yeah
gray apex
just play rta
maiden narwhal
the whole point of speedrunning is to be fast. and the fastest
stone rune
rta is such a garbo cat
fervent radish
it's just two diff categories
stone rune
its like igt but you cant have fun
fervent radish
tests two different skills lol
maiden narwhal
eh
mint coral
Turn-based Hades
Transistor but roguelite
latent moon
the whole point of speedrunning is to be fast. and the fastest
yeah and speedrunning is measured using igt lmao
maiden narwhal
now that i know what speedrunning is i don't care lol
latent moon
mostly
maiden narwhal
i thought it meant like.. good playing
stone rune
oh i didnt know i played bad
mint coral
Really
stone rune
ill try to remedy that in the future
latent moon
now that i know what speedrunning is i don't care lol
is your sample size like 1 of jazz's runs and you dont like the excessive pausing lmao
maiden narwhal
but if you'd like
jagged hamlet
oh i didnt know i played bad
What the
maiden narwhal
whatever makes people happy
stiff obsidian
ill try to remedy that in the future
theres a build ideas and tips guide pinned in #h1-builds-and-combat if youd like
stone rune
ohhh
jagged hamlet
I'm fairly certain Hades speedrunners aren't people but small, adorable rodents
stone rune
and then i'll learn to pause less which apparently makes me better
latent moon
if you think speedrunning doesn't have "good playing" then that's just objectively wrong but you're free to think whatever you want lmao
maiden narwhal
you don't have to. play however you have fun playing.
don't worry about good and bad
stiff obsidian
me omw to tas hades with fastest autoclicker in the world
fervent radish
if you want the fastest play in RTA just watch RTA
fervent radish
IGT records are the fastest in IGT. literally all that matters
latent moon
if you want to get better at td3 learn a bit of speedrunning lmfao
icy ferry
i only pause mid combat if i'm really getting rocked
latent moon
you pause mid combat in heat when you get hit by a bs attack and you need to calm down lmfao
gray apex
you just pause for doors, and you dont even have to
stone rune
if you look at the pinned guide in #h1-builds-and-combat it says to pause mid combat
stone rune
you just pause for doors, and you dont even have to
whenever i watch like an angel heat run or something i get jumpscared by no pause for door choice
stiff obsidian
you pause mid combat in heat when you get hit by a bs attack and you need to cal...
i pause sometimes for comedic effect
fervent radish
i pause mid combat between hades phases to lower my heart rate lmao
stone rune
have you tried pausing and pressing give up and playing anyheat
pulsar relic
Yo, not sure if it's the place to ask
fervent radish
that's what I'm doing rn
pulsar relic
But I can't trigger Dusa's bond not Nyx/Choas' quest
fervent radish
not doing so hot unfortunately + busy so can't get runs in
fervent radish
But I can't trigger Dusa's bond not Nyx/Choas' quest
are you talking to her every run?
gray apex
https://youtu.be/wNk0lfM5wAk pro pause
pulsar relic
are you talking to her every run?
I am, yea
fervent radish
nice one
stone rune
https://youtu.be/wNk0lfM5wAk pro pause
what was this run for
fervent radish
i'm honestly not the right person to answer dialogue questions then idk
seems like a 50 heat beo run
stiff obsidian
🤯
stone rune
yeah but mike has like high 50s or something on beo
latent moon
for funsies
but also insane meg lmao
meg for damage is cringe
meg for safety is based
devout terrace
1.20
stone rune
good thing i started playing after that released
devout terrace
i was one of the first people to playtest it
stiff obsidian
the
latent moon
free pressure points!
devout terrace
RC1 was broken af
it had a game breaking exploit that I cant recall
and every run on it was disqualified, not allowed on the boards
and 30 minutes after that annoucement was sent I did sub 10 50 heat zag shield
not knowing about it
and the run wasnt allowed
latent moon
rip unfortunate
devout terrace
I was so salty
maiden narwhal
stiff obsidian
gg
quasi dust
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/879755279481339975/1217213683906773093/im...
Nice
maiden narwhal
and my fastest clear lmao
quasi dust
Pretty epic
stiff obsidian
oh dont expect your stats to be completely accurate anymore
stone rune
why rta preset
latent moon
i think that's just default when you download it lmao
formal citrus
I guess you could fire a single bullet with eris but that drop time is problematic and your cast goes slower than your bullets
usually
latent moon
oh yeah on rail it's not practical either lmao
rustic thicket
been a while since I played this, but I remember someone saying vicious cycle doesn't work as intended?
mint coral
been a while since I played this, but I remember someone saying vicious cycle do...
+1 on dash/shot
+2 on call (works correctly)
+0 on flare
rustic thicket
Thanks
barren bridge
some one give me ideas for rama other than aphro/artimas and zues/posiden
latent moon
considering the only good attacks on rama are aphro/artemis and any flat damage special works, there's not much else to that lmao
special only rama uses zeus but you said besides that
idk dem special and get arctic blast i guess but that sounds really bad lol
barren bridge
considering the only good attacks on rama are aphro/artemis and any flat damage ...
hmhmmmhmhm im really got bored of them i guess another run lets see how it goes
latent moon
idk could just not play rama lmao
barren bridge
idk dem special and get arctic blast i guess but that sounds really bad lol
i dont kniw
barren bridge
idk could just not play rama lmao
i like it its fun
latent moon
i mean that's fine but if you're getting really bored then using something else for a bit then going back to rama can be helpful/nice
I used to only play beo for a long while but now I'm pretty bored of it so I'm just playing other things
barren bridge
i mean that's fine but if you're getting really bored then using something else ...
yayayay
barren bridge
I used to only play beo for a long while but now I'm pretty bored of it so I'm j...
i had this situation with hera
elder phoenix
Am I able to learn the lyre after ||sending Orpheus to be with Eurydice|| or does it have to be before?
elder phoenix
Perfect, tysm
pulsar relic
Hey, hey
So I just unlocked the Aspect of Hades on Varatha
What does the mark on the enemies do? I don't see a difference, but I've only tried it on Skelly so far
latent moon
they take more damage from attack and special
not the spin attack, just the attack tho lol
brisk trail
............
stiff obsidian
spam
maiden narwhal
considering the only good attacks on rama are aphro/artemis and any flat damage ...
do zag weapon projectiles have different box sizes?
they must, right?
like the rama attack is bigger than the zag bow or rail attack
and can clear a wider swath of enemy projectiles
so why isn't athena a valid attack?
it's like throwing a small shield
that reflects
stiff obsidian
yes
maiden narwhal
if you dash strike you still get deflect at meleeish range right?
but if it's too weak then it's moot
latent moon
i mean you wouldn't be using athena's attack to deflect anything on purpose most of the time
or at least you shouldn't
esp not on rama
maiden narwhal
@latent moon btw ofc you need a certain level of competence to speed run
even above average level
but it's just a question of tighter play, which isn't hard to come by with a little time and experience
i guess what i meant is speedrunners are not as good as i thought they were
they're not doing much different
i guess good and bad are pretty subjective
latent moon
"tigher play" is extremely broad lmao
maiden narwhal
and now i know what speedrunning actually is, it isn't that important to me to be good at it
latent moon
also what did you think speedrunning was beforehand lmao
maiden narwhal
"tigher play" is extremely broad lmao
tighter play as far as i'm concerned
for me to reach that level, it would just require tighter play
i know it's broad, i'm not talking about everyone
i was talking about my opinion of speedrunning
maiden narwhal
also what did you think speedrunning was beforehand lmao
i have zero clue lol
it just boggled my mind that people could do it so much faster
latent moon
i mean there's build decisions, pathing, spawn manipulations, well manips, keepsake roation, etc
latent moon
i mean in general what makes speedrunners better than the average player besides the in game time is the fact that they just know builds better and have better game mechanics
and for the majority of players, they dont really know what good builds are and how to path/prioritize that well
stiff obsidian
yeah
latent moon
technically speaking, saying just "tighter play" is what makes speedrunners good can also be applied to high heat runners lol
maiden narwhal
i mean in general what makes speedrunners better than the average player besides...
exactly
a little time and experience
even people brand new can have this knowledge academically by joining the discord
stone rune
its not "a little" lol
latent moon
"a little time" can be over a hundred hours lol
which isn't like
practical for most people lmao
latent moon
i mean sure
stone rune
did you know that taking a second boon doubles your chance of first pom
stone rune
see
stone rune
there are hundreds or thousands of pieces of knowledge like this that u build up
preferences
athena vs dem vs dio
stone rune
it is also about play
latent moon
game knowledge still goes into speedrunning
maiden narwhal
speedrunners are very good in a way that is different from how it was in my head
stone rune
if i put you in a sub5 seed are you sub5ing it
stiff obsidian
theres a lot of perfecting movement and attack rotations too
stone rune
probably not in a thousand years
latent moon
you dont need to spam escape like jazz to get sub5
maiden narwhal
sub5 is only something the speedrunning community cares about
and now i know what speedrunning is, i don't care about it
stiff obsidian
iwouldnt say spam
maiden narwhal
it's not a challenge for me
maiden narwhal
you dont need to spam escape like jazz to get sub5
no, not spam
just the way the normal speedrunner does it is way too much for me
latent moon
also just pausing the game to make decisions help save time for td3 heat runs lol
maiden narwhal
as long as i clear with td3 im happy
latent moon
no, not spam
just the way the normal speedrunner does it is way too much for me
normal speedrunners literally do it before doors, in shops, and start of a room
which like sure it adds up, but it's not really getting in the way of any combat that's annoying for normal players
maiden narwhal
ok. it's a challenge
just not a challenge that interest me in the least
it's a challenge the way cricket is a challenge
stiff obsidian
pausing in shop and pausing for doors is standard
stone rune
like do u think theres just no mechanics involved
stiff obsidian
all aspects are not eris
maiden narwhal
so far, yeah
i cleared 45 without pausing
if i run into heat i have to pause for
then i'll learn to do that
or stop playing
latent moon
i mean pausing isn't necessary it's just helpful
latent moon
and considering it saves time, that's exactly why speedrunners do it lol
maiden narwhal
but speedrunnersdo
latent moon
if something saves time and isn't annoying to watch, then it's allowed
latent moon
does anyone have a clip of codex tech
maiden narwhal
i didn't. because it's annoying to watch
latent moon
jazz's is an exception bc the rules allow pausing
maiden narwhal
i can't even watch someone hit escape that much, let alone do it myself
stiff obsidian
and all i want to do is clear td3
need to pause for doors and shop still
maiden narwhal
even in your video it felt like a lot
latent moon
not allowing pausing for one person wouldn't be fair
maiden narwhal
and when i tried to do it i couldn't
latent moon
she's like the only one who plays like that
latent moon
even in your video it felt like a lot
i mean it's literally at doors
maiden narwhal
need to pause for doors and shop still
why tho you're deciding as you dash to it
latent moon
you can kinda just skip that part lol
latent moon
saves time overall in the run
even if it takes like
0.25 per door
you go through a lot of doors in the run
maiden narwhal
right that's what i thought
tiny micro saves
that add up to maybe 30 seconds or a minute?
latent moon
yeah and it's not a hard micro save so might as well do it
maiden narwhal
and when you're trying to do sub5 that's huge
latent moon
there's no reason not to do it if you want to speedrun
or save time in general for heat
maiden narwhal
and if i ever struggle to clear 50 because of td, i will probably have to learn to do that
stiff obsidian
why tho you're deciding as you dash to it
you lose a second or two, that adds up over 50 chambers
maiden narwhal
you lose a second or two, that adds up over 50 chambers
how?
from the door to the shop
is your deciding time
latent moon
i mean some rooms you dont have to pause if it's only 1 exit
but a lot of rooms have more than one exit
maiden narwhal
i mean yeah you could hit escape and take your time
but you already know what you're looking for
latent moon
some builds are very flexible in what you're looking for
maiden narwhal
hm
latent moon
like nemesis, hestia, zag bow
maiden narwhal
key over nectar
heart over gold
oil over gems
and you know your build, so you know the boon you want
latent moon
well you pause to see when the options come up
stone rune
if you dont want pausing just play the bad category
latent moon
like the instance you see the outline of the icon
you start dashing towards it
ideally at least
maiden narwhal
if you dont want pausing just play the bad category
apparently these don't be rude don't be inflammatory rules only apply to me
is it because everyone else is so young?
maiden narwhal
who am i being rude to
google "inflammatory"
we've established you don't do english too well
stone rune
rta sucks not my fault
latent moon
jazz's comment wasn't rude or inflammatory to anyone directly, it was towards a speedrunning category lmao
stone rune
rta is like if they took igt and made it really annoying and stressful and u have to end bosses towards the exit
maiden narwhal
ok i wont waste my time explaining how it was
you kids might know hades, but none of you know life
as you were
latent moon
im pretty sure i didn't do anything wrong to provoke you but sure lmao
stiff obsidian
key over nectar
heart over gold
oil over gems
and you know your build, so you k...
thats wrong
steep condor
you kids might know hades, but none of you know life
I'm old. In Ancient Times, I have witnessed a mod tell the regulars here to be nicer
void vigil
you kids might know hades, but none of you know life
Even if you’re wisened due to the endless march of time, I don’t know how many times I told you to not flaunt your age in such a rude way
The facts are this server has a lot of young people in it, and if you want to stay in it please don’t be rude about the average age bracket here
stone rune
if he's as old as he presents himself to be then soon enough there won't be any issue
after his arthritic bones and jaundiced skin crumble away into ashen dust
stiff obsidian
🫡
stone rune
but hes probably like 14 so
although he does have that one aspect of ancient specimen typography down
with the spaced out messages
where there are like 2 blank lines between each word
stiff obsidian
thats how i type 🥲
stone rune
i havent seen it
stiff obsidian
oh i thought u meant sendnig a single sentence broken down into multiple messages
void vigil
after his arthritic bones and jaundiced skin crumble away into ashen dust
Jazz pls
stone rune
ok
upper wolf
oh, avalanche picking fights again huh ? This is getting old 
rose roost
fervent radish
as you were
You of getting triggered bc someone else insulted a speedrunning category is really funny, all things considered
stone rune
i think he gets the point
fervent radish
i think he gets the point
Actually I’m not entirely sure he does, but I know what you mean
latent moon
How do I not get elysium’d
get good enemies and rooms lmao
fervent radish
😔
latent moon
although your spawn manips and enemy grouping need to be good
you can cut down on how much time you spend in bad rooms through that but like it's still gonna suck lol
fervent radish
I just had a 3:49 lernie exit turn into a 7:04 heroes exit
latent moon
3 min ely rip
fervent radish
I think im not very good at elysium
latent moon
most people arent lol
fervent radish
Real
latent moon
more practice never hurts
latent moon
that too
fervent radish
Well on the bright side, my front half is getting consistent
Just need to tighten up back half
Well Styx is fine and so is dad
It’s mostly just ely lmao
latent moon
sounds about right
rustic thicket
umm anyone knows which folder is the one for hades' save files? I have it on steam
Nvm got it
stiff obsidian
i dont think im even getting better at this game
lavish sorrel
i dont think im even getting better at this game
Me when high heat 🗿
brisk trail
Is hades a bisexual game, cus why am i seeing clips on youtube getting intimate w thanatos
steep condor
yes
quasi dust
yep
quasi dust
You can choose not to romance him and stay friends tho if that's what you prefer
steep condor
what, "what"?
stiff obsidian
*WHAT
quasi dust
wha
brisk trail
You can choose not to romance him and stay friends tho if that's what you prefer
So basically, if i give a certain amount of nectar to anyone in the house of hades i can ‘romance them’? Even achilles lmao
brisk trail
Not all of them no
Which can i romance
quasi dust
Uhhh
vague wadi
Dusa??????
quasi dust
So meg than and Dusa (she says no tho)
brisk trail
Can i romance Sisyphus
stiff obsidian
you can try
mint coral
You'll get something from him at least
stiff obsidian
have they tried
quasi dust
even bisexuals aren't able to romance *everyone* irl
Can confirm
steep condor
yes
brisk trail
Can i romance everyone for fun
upper wolf
No
devout torrent
Can i romance everyone for fun
you can romance meg and than at the same time without consequences
stiff obsidian
romance deez
stiff obsidian
:troll
steep condor
you can romance meg and than at the same time without consequences
there are consequences. there's extra dialog. no negative consequences though
round compass
Can i romance Sisyphus
can i romance the boulder
mint coral
You can try for sure
brisk trail
**can i romance the boulder**
.............
round compass
.............
MY LOVE
nocturne kelp
When's the marriage ‼️
nocturne kelp
your invited
quasi dust
YIPEEE
brisk trail
nocturne kelp
YEAHHH
vital field
I will NOT allow this!!
vital field
😡
fervent radish
i dont think im even getting better at this game
Me always
vital field
😨
nocturne kelp
Dw abt my sister‼️‼️
vital field
nocturne kelp
NO
vital field
raw thunder
Are there good tips for beating em4
I accidentally bought the song from court music and it’s fire
raw thunder
https://docs.google.com/document/d/126vagPhjSWQMR1x8O9tJT3neweSTdUUfw2pNVjqX7lU/...
Woah
Thx
@mint coral also what’s a tier 2 boon? Sorry about all the questions
mint coral
<@676221149134323721> also what’s a tier 2 boon? Sorry about all the questions
A boon that needs another to show up
mint coral
For example static discharge (zeus) needs his attack/special/etc to show up
raw thunder
Ye
timid mortar
Why does Hades and Zagreus doesn't have
"I'm trying to get out of here"
"Hi, 'Trying to get out of here', I'm dad"
Or
"I'm going to stop you from escaping from Styx"
"Hi 'going to stop you from escaping from Styx', I'm Zagreus or Dad"
As their interaction?
I mean it's not like it'll feel out of the place
I wouldn't have been surprised if it was real
stone rune
the world if fists were remotely tolerable to play
upper wolf
skill issue, just steal ananke's social security number and skills
(insanity can be a skill)
quasi dust
But fists
stone rune
pin
timid mortar
the world if fists were remotely tolerable to play
I mean it was something Demeter used to wear xD
Imagine if Hermes had his ace
raw thunder
how is it that I died to EM4 on my first attempt
But after reading and forgetting a guide I beat it second try without using death defiance
upper wolf
build diff
upper wolf
wow double skips
steep condor
today i was informed that in ancient greece, there were no glass mirrors. they used polished bronze.
so what's the mirror of night made of? literal darkness?
devout torrent
id believe it
quasi dust
today i was informed that in ancient greece, there were no glass mirrors. they u...
I mean probably
It's Nyx's power
rustic vale
today i was informed that in ancient greece, there were no glass mirrors. they u...
probly like Bouldy
stiff obsidian
probably just a mirror
timid mortar
today i was informed that in ancient greece, there were no glass mirrors. they u...
Yes.
brisk trail
probly like Bouldy
.............
covert hare
today i was informed that in ancient greece, there were no glass mirrors. they u...
It’s a normal mirror
It has to be
They have stuff made of glass
They should know how to make a mirror
Also I’m pretty sure dio has lines about looking at himself in a mirror
novel nova
any idea what is zagreus color scheme
upper wolf
red/green I'd say
maiden narwhal
bang my head against wave 15 brotato or bang my head against 54 heat hades
or buy ultrakill
hm
stone rune
dont get ultragrill
maiden narwhal
or buy ultrakill
that is expensive for an indie wtf
oh someone here was raving about ultrakill the other day
so i put it on the list
thanks
stone rune
i mean
its good
but my experience with it was like
the entire main levels were extremely easy to complete and p rank
and then the p levels were insane
latent moon
bang my head against wave 15 brotato or bang my head against 54 heat hades
you haven't done 50 yet, 54 is a pretty decent step forward from 50 lmao why jump from 45 to 54
maiden narwhal
but my experience with it was like
you know you're at least three levels of gamer better than me at games, right?
stone rune
both are pretty free modded
latent moon
50 to 54 is kinda fine
i mean that's either like ri2 or em4
maiden narwhal
you haven't done 50 yet, 54 is a pretty decent step forward from 50 lmao why jum...
because the only difference is em4
so i mean..
stone rune
yeah but ri2 is free
maiden narwhal
why bother with 50
maiden narwhal
oh everyone here was so against ri1 i figured ri2 was no
latent moon
because the only difference is em4
i mean depends
stone rune
with no heat experience
latent moon
oh everyone here was so against ri1 i figured ri2 was no
i mean at a certain heat level you gotta just take ri lmfao
like at 45 you dont need to take ri
but at 50 then you should prob consider it over some pact options
maiden narwhal
i mean at a certain heat level you gotta just take ri lmfao
yeah you can't do 50 without it
unless you em4 instead i guess
i should do those save state things
for normal dad you don't need to learn patterns
just dash around like an idiot
latent moon
like jazz just mentioned, you can take ri2 on hestia and be relatively fine
latent moon
yeah you can't do 50 without it
unless you em4 instead i guess
nah you can stil do ri0 at 50
you just gotta deal with ap2 lol
"just"
maiden narwhal
on eris hah
maiden narwhal
as long as i have attack and jolted i don't care what else comes i can make it work
latent moon
just be careful on the 2nd hammer lol
yeah i'd still recommend doing 50 before 54 or whatever
i think you can do 54 without em4 but it's a bit sus lol
maiden narwhal
i think you can do 54 without em4 but it's a bit sus lol
or THAT
so that's ap2 ri2?
latent moon
i went from 25 to 32
so i figured i could go from 45 to 54
heat difficulty is not linear lol 25 to 32 is a lot easier than 45 to 54
maiden narwhal
wow
latent moon
maiden narwhal
oh speaking of false
latent moon
add on like ri1 and cp2 or something on this pact
and it's 54
still em3
but also uh
cp2 js3 for time
might suck lmao
also obligitory ri1 is cringe lmao
maiden narwhal
@stiff obsidian i saw you mention my door priorities were wrong
it was moot because the point wasn't the priority, it was the fact that you have the time to decide while dashing there
but i would like to know what the right priorities are
latent moon
oh yeah i remember seeing that
maiden narwhal
heat difficulty is not linear lol 25 to 32 is a lot easier than 45 to 54
yes i'm well aware
latent moon
what was it again lmao
maiden narwhal
but like i said, since the only difference was em4..
i wouldn't be up against it until i was actually up against it
at which point i'd get frustrated and download savestate
and play it like hollowknight or something
maiden narwhal
yeah it gives me hp
stone rune
you said heart over gold
maiden narwhal
yeah because i can't play sd
stone rune
there is no reason to take hp in anyheat
maiden narwhal
as easily
skill issue
i understand if they aren't meta priorities
but rn i don't think they're wrong
i used to NEVER path hp
ever
because you don't need hp if they're dead
but now they're not dead
so
latent moon
oh yeah tbf that ranking system was in regards to anyheat so survivability is most of the time not an issue lmao
stone rune
well the discussion was about anyheat
latent moon
for heat yeah heart over gold makes sense
although kinda depends imo
gold in early game i'd consider more over heart
maiden narwhal
well the discussion was about anyheat
anyheat means 9 and speedrun right?
latent moon
yeah
stone rune
or 10 or 12 or 15
maiden narwhal
ok so yeah that's definitely not the meta i'm looking at
stone rune
if u want to play the bad version
maiden narwhal
i want to clear the highest heat i can
stone rune
zagsnooze
latent moon
ok so yeah that's definitely not the meta i'm looking at
last night we were talking about anyheat tho and that was what you were ranking
maiden narwhal
with a pretty decent understanding of my limitations
and the things i'm not willing to do hah
latent moon
but for heat it's a pretty fair ranking iirc?
maiden narwhal
last night we were talking about anyheat tho and that was what you were ranking
then last night was riddled with miscommunication
i didn't read anything after i left btw
latent moon
did you put keys over nectar btw
maiden narwhal
it's just that one point i wanted to come back to, gamewise
cause false said i was wrong
because i am trying to finish asap because i struggle with td3
so picking the right door asap is v important
maiden narwhal
did you put keys over nectar btw
yes
i want the rolls
for customs etc
especially with ri
latent moon
ngl if it's like c3 choices and i only have 1 boon i take nectar
maiden narwhal
and ap
maiden narwhal
why?