h1-discussion

[true oak]

you must have lost health just before that as well

15% no way

[maiden narwhal]

that was my hp after defiance

so it's a % of current hp

maybe idk

[maiden narwhal]

help

delta and explosive or delta and seeking

explosive i guess

seeking is trash

[fervent radish]

It’s not great yeah

[maiden narwhal]

oh but seeking deals more damage

hm

[fervent radish]

What’s your third option

[maiden narwhal]

nowt

ap

[fervent radish]

Ah

Rough

I don’t think explosive is detrimental

[maiden narwhal]

yeah i agree

[fervent radish]

If you have attack at cursor off seeking does basically nothing

Esp with zeus

Bc it doesn’t boost the lightning

[maiden narwhal]

i just found out, because of flamewheels, that removing attack at cursor means i can't do the backwards attack thing

v annoying

[fervent radish]

Wdym

[maiden narwhal]

wym

lol

[maiden narwhal]

dashing one direction but attacking in the otehr

[fervent radish]

So seeking fire is like a 10% attack increase

But that’s to the base rail damage

[maiden narwhal]

aah

[fervent radish]

Yeah

[maiden narwhal]

well that's.. stupid

[fervent radish]

Zeus is just a flat applied damage

[maiden narwhal]

who would want that ever

[fervent radish]

I mean

Yeah

Idk

[maiden narwhal]

yeah that one wasn't v thought through

unless there's some niche build that makes it shine

[fervent radish]

Hm

[maiden narwhal]

ok explosive it is

this is a really promising run

i figured out a way to play through td3

slow is smooth, smooth is fast

[mint coral]

Explosive I think can cause less jolted procs cuz of the stun

[maiden narwhal]

intriguing

you'd go seeking?

or is that even worse?

also, that would only really count against bosses?
mobs should be dead before it really matterds

nooooo

chariots

[lavish sorrel]

nnevic would be proud

[mint coral]

Bosses can't be stunned

And you kill mobs with jolted usually

But yeah idk how much/if the stun actually messes with jolted

[lavish sorrel]

except meg who can have her attacks delayed for no apparent reason if you hit her at the wrong times

which isn't a stun per se, but close enough

[mint coral]

Lmao what

I love this game

[lavish sorrel]

it's notorious because it happens at the worst times in FF

[jagged hamlet]

Change my mind: Meg's voice :: Geralt of Rivia

[maiden narwhal]

can i purge nourished soul?

or whatever it's called. the demeter boon

[mint coral]

Nope

Absolutely wonder of a boon for lc4 and UC

[maiden narwhal]

4th zeus room
me: wonder if i'll see splitting for the first time ever since i started playing 45. bet it'll be ap'd, if i do
room: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/879755279481339975/1216504650618896454/image.png?ex=6600a13e&is=65ee2c3e&hm=179c84b21e6c0cd743d09b88ea8b0b3ed570af11a4995c14a66e5670d5bafc33&

[fervent radish]

That’s rough, but epic aid rules

[maiden narwhal]

this is a nice run. i have a grand total of one god

but i've got rocketbomb and i really hate rocketbomb

[maiden narwhal]

wyt, second wind or swift strike?

both common

i guess strike, since it's rail?

[mint coral]

I like 2nd wind

[maiden narwhal]

3late

[fervent radish]

Isn’t that budget smair

[maiden narwhal]

doesn't second wind just give you the movespeed when you use your call?

[fervent radish]

Or is it extra speed/dodge

Oh nvm then

[maiden narwhal]

yeah it's the speed/dodge

[mint coral]

Speed/dodge

[fervent radish]

Yeah

[mint coral]

Quick favor is the really budget smair

[maiden narwhal]

if it was the guage it'd be no contest

that one's wonderful

[mint coral]

Quick favor is

[maiden narwhal]

i have no idea what that emoji means 🤌

[fervent radish]

Oh yeah quick favor is the one

[mint coral]

Pretty meh

[maiden narwhal]

listen my strategy for chariots was to let them hit me, then kill them

that is not working with 45

i'm scared

[mint coral]

Dash back and forth through a wall

Oh chariots

Oopps

[maiden narwhal]

i can count on one hand the number of times i made it to ely

this heat is making me feel like i don't know how to play

45 is v different from 40

someone said it'd be easy but i'm sorry it is NOT

it is enormously not

lernie is literally two hit gg

i have no special because i have to carry a tooth for him

and a couple of times i've lost the tooth before even reaching him 🤌

couple took it a couple of times actually

anyway this game sucks

MUAAHAHAAHAHA YES YOU CAN HAVE STRONG DRINK

PLS ENJOY IT PURGE POOL

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/879755279481339975/1216509080219160626/image.png?ex=6600a55e&is=65ee305e&hm=e76b439bf60ce5f77c08f7ee997349d335bf5862a4a4d9716d2b8801d6fa96de& look at that build it's so pretty

ely give me aphrodite and gg

[mint coral]

Ap1 clockets incoming

[maiden narwhal]

lol i was going to ask if i should avoid it

i'm so shook

what's the worst it could give me

hazard i guess

since it's that or spread

[mint coral]

You have rocket

[maiden narwhal]

yes

oh ok

understood

[mint coral]

Yeah lol

[upper wolf]

No hazard on rocket

[maiden narwhal]

so it could give me spread or seeking

yuck

[mint coral]

Can't get wrecked by hammer

[upper wolf]

I mean, even seeking is not negative

[mint coral]

What's wrong with seeking

[maiden narwhal]

you have to be a certain distance away

[upper wolf]

Except for opportunity cost

[maiden narwhal]

or it can't find the mob

it'll curve around

[mint coral]

Does it actually miss

[maiden narwhal]

this i don't know

[mint coral]

If you like just shoot point blank

[maiden narwhal]

possibly

but with rocket, i want to be point blank

which is horrible for seeking

so

[maiden narwhal]

i think it can yeah

if you're not exactly point blank, but close enough

idk it's really annoying to have to even care about that

when i'm just trying to stay alive

i don't have that much equanimity lmao

[mint coral]

I wanna test that cuz I haven't touched seeking in ages

[maiden narwhal]

and rockets greatly lower my survivability because i can't time it v well

i just get it because it's like cshot so

need to learn

there's this really great thing you can do where you empty 30% of your clip and then WHAM rocket and they're dead

but yeah i suck at timing it

[mint coral]

I just throw the special while reloading ngl

[maiden narwhal]

i don't want to hit them with a rocket while they have dc on

[mint coral]

Or at start if I can use fiery

[maiden narwhal]

it throws everything off

[mint coral]

Yeah rocket for first hit doesn't really work for dc lol

[maiden narwhal]

two hits!

[mint coral]

or at least I try until I miss the AoE and don't notice I don't have the buff

[maiden narwhal]

and omg rockets is HORRIBLE for witches

you gotta splash damage a rocket launcher

hades needs a jump

imagine hades with a jump
and a quake3 rocket arena multiplayer mod

i wouldn't ever play anything else

oooh

[maiden narwhal]

cluster or delta?

instead of giving me the worst options it gave me the best

ffs

[mint coral]

Lmfao

I mean I'd take cluster unless you really, really need the safety

And are good on time

[maiden narwhal]

i really, really suck

but i'm good on time

i still have a minute and a half to kill befoer the clock starts

cluster will be massive damage yeah?

[mint coral]

Yeah

[maiden narwhal]

isn't that more survivability than the iframes?

all things considered

[mint coral]

I was gonna say the classic can't kill you if they are dead

[maiden narwhal]

yeah

the rpg credo

sigh

you know this is also the very first time i've gotten cluster rockets

[mint coral]

400 base dmg ain't no joke

[maiden narwhal]

that's after the 30% reduction?

good grief

i don't even have a special

[mint coral]

Better

[maiden narwhal]

but cluster rockets and aphro wow

[mint coral]

Rocket deletes the dmg reduction lmfao

[maiden narwhal]

rofl

that's broken?

[mint coral]

You just get 80 dmg rockets

[maiden narwhal]

ok then there's no real contest

sigh

delta

my beloved

[upper wolf]

Delta is still great at high heat

[mint coral]

Time travel and get a bad 2nd hammer and then anvil into clockets delta

[upper wolf]

But honestly the main selling point of delta is that it needs only one hammer, not two

[maiden narwhal]

man imagine styx rooms

.5 second clears

[mint coral]

The rat o' clock in question:

[maiden narwhal]

i'm going to go clockets

for the novelty, if nothing else

i probably did pick that up, years ago when i first played

but can't remember

lmao they fan

for some reason i thought they'd funnel

[upper wolf]

Average tidal dash run

[maiden narwhal]

you mean cast?

you can't reach them fast enough with just the dash

in some rooms

but with pos cast they die before the second dash is over

[mint coral]

Both are styx deleter at the end of the day

[upper wolf]

Kid named bonus dashes

[maiden narwhal]

omg they're working together

i was dealing with two greatshields and an archer BEHIND ME killed me from like right on the other end of the screen

[maiden narwhal]

do you pom dash?

[mint coral]

Yeah

Wet dash has good poms

[maiden narwhal]

i mean.. even if you're already pomming attack and jolted?

[mint coral]

Why are you pomming attack

[maiden narwhal]

oh man this run is so cursed.. ely has been only zeus, ares, and dio

[mint coral]

You pom jolted/dash

[maiden narwhal]

i need % dagnabit

[maiden narwhal]

i thought you put a couple in attack?

[mint coral]

Like 1-2 ig

[maiden narwhal]

what if you have athena dash

[mint coral]

But not over jolted/dash

Oh with Athena is a different story

Ig is good if jolted is not on the options lol

[maiden narwhal]

ok you're talking specifically pos

what if you have zeus call?

do you still pom pos dash?

[mint coral]

Yeah

Lvl 4-5 is like in the 80 dmg range?

[next heath]

How do I not be bad at game

[maiden narwhal]

jolted > pos dash > call?

[proper tusk]

get hit less

[maiden narwhal]

huh

ok

[next heath]

True

I will try this

[mint coral]

At least till like 4-5 yeah

[next heath]

But when I play shield I just skill issue icl

[mint coral]

Then the poms fall off so is not bad to pom other things

[maiden narwhal]

all poms?

[mint coral]

For jolted/dash I mean

[maiden narwhal]

another weapon might suit you better

[maiden narwhal]

ah got it

[mint coral]

Tho also yeah most stuff fall off at that range

[next heath]

True I like the gun and sword

[mint coral]

Outside of like hangover/casts

[next heath]

And fists

[mint coral]

If you have aphro special, poms are good here too

[maiden narwhal]

you'll outgrow this, sadly
enjoy it while it lasts

[upper wolf]

Good anime too /j

[next heath]

But I need that meta progression

[maiden narwhal]

hm

v true

to a certain prophecy level, at least

[mint coral]

Use your best weapon over dark thirst is always my advice

[upper wolf]

Also best way to improve is to know the game well

[next heath]

So do like new boons and bosses start popping up

[upper wolf]

So like

[mint coral]

New boons once you reach the final boss

[maiden narwhal]

i mean..
how far in are you?

[upper wolf]

Go check the pinned resources in the build channel

[maiden narwhal]

you might want to join the new players channel

there'll be spoiers in here

[next heath]

I beat hades like twice

[maiden narwhal]

oh ok

[mint coral]

Bosses have changes by just playing/certain spoiler- oh ok

[next heath]

I don’t mind

[maiden narwhal]

no, nothing new

well. some things new

[mint coral]

Just dem is unlockable

[maiden narwhal]

but no new characters per se

[mint coral]

And bosses have slight changes by story/big change with extreme measures pact

Also secret boss

[next heath]

I see

Because there’s a person I still haven’t met

Also how I get the locked things in the trinket screen

[mint coral]

Gift ambrosia to X characters for the big locks

[maiden narwhal]

give them nectar/ambrosia for the first time

you'll get their keepsake

[mint coral]

Solve the family issues of zag for the last normal keepsake

You already met them

[next heath]

I see so just do more runs

[maiden narwhal]

i honestly don't remember

[mint coral]

Yeah

[next heath]

Who do I give ambrosia too

[maiden narwhal]

everybody

cerebus, if you can

[next heath]

Because I’ve given everyone nectar at least once

[maiden narwhal]

cerebus the most

he deserves it

[mint coral]

Meg/Than/dusa/achilles/sisyphus/skelly for the big ones

[next heath]

Do I have to give a certain amount nectar before ambrosia

[maiden narwhal]

big locks he means

[mint coral]

Yeah + do a quest for each character

[maiden narwhal]

yes, keep an eye on the codex

[mint coral]

Most of them are just keep talking tho

[next heath]

Okay will do

[maiden narwhal]

as the dialogue/story progresses, the hearts will unlock

[mint coral]

(Skelly's the easiest to get)

But also not very good so just mind that

[next heath]

I have to the point I found out he’s working for Achilles

Also is there a climactic ending at any point

[mint coral]

Credits roll is the big one

Just keep winning

[next heath]

I see

[maiden narwhal]

noob i'm in 33 with no dash or special

shold i pick up dio dash here?

[next heath]

Like most other roguelites then

[mint coral]

What is your pool

[maiden narwhal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/879755279481339975/1216519004517302272/image.png?ex=6600ae9c&is=65ee399c&hm=0a8b0254472c37f3b85f70bd757f94654d16fd502e470f9c2e9876c297ddbd64&

[gray apex]

It wont do much

Just block your poms

[maiden narwhal]

rip me

asterius going to slaughter me

[gray apex]

Would just take the after party. Ares or Poseidon Dash is what you want

or no dash at all

you have lots of things blocking your poms

if you see a poseidon might be worth going for the special instead

because its late anyway and the dash wont do much without a couple poms at this point

and you have clockets

If you get more poms try to hit Call Jolted Billowing

[maiden narwhal]

loooooooooooolol i trapped myself between trap lance and exploding eyes

this game sucks

i had cleared the room too

sigh

[fervent radish]

Game bad moment

[jovial forum]

if i give a god nectar will they give u more boons that run? gave ares 1 and i have 6 boons from him now 😭

[latent moon]

coincidence lmao

unfortunate

[jovial forum]

im at like 8 now

[jovial forum]

deep pockets or golden touch? mirror of night

[stone rune]

deep pockets

every time

[brisk trail]

.............

[stiff obsidian]

Bouldy is a dead meme tbh tbh

[tepid light]

ur face is a dead meme

do not disrespect bouldy

[stiff obsidian]

Whi

Who

[wicked sage]

just romanced dusa

[raw thunder]

Tried to

[maiden narwhal]

did cluster rockets go through an update?

at any point

[latent moon]

like during early access?

well i just went through all the stuff that had "cluster bomb" and "rocket bomb" in #hades-patch-notes and it never mentioned the combo of both i dont think lmao

[maiden narwhal]

OH MY GOD CHAOS LIED

HE SAID CHAMBERS BUT HE MEANT ENCOUNTERS

i want my money back

[maiden narwhal]

cool i just remember it launching differently when it was cluster rockets. like from behind your shoulder, and then bulging like an oblong and then swooping forward onto a single target

must be another game i'm thinking of

[maiden narwhal]

this shouldn't be allowed
literally the only reason i took it is because it said chambers

[latent moon]

idk i didn't play early access so no clue

[latent moon]

what curse was it

[maiden narwhal]

neither did i

[maiden narwhal]

said it'd give me more gold, but curse my special

[latent moon]

oh those are always encounters

[maiden narwhal]

but

but it SAID

chambers

and i've seen it distinguish before

[latent moon]

lmao yeah im pretty sure it's supposed to distinguish it properly

[maiden narwhal]

maybe i'm wrong maybe it said encounters and i'm imagining it

[latent moon]

maybe you misread it or something idk

[maiden narwhal]

but i could swear it said chamber

ah well

[latent moon]

maybe you took the word "chamber" from enshrouded lol

[maiden narwhal]

yes

more than likely what happened

[latent moon]

but every chaos curse is always encounters except enshrouded

enshrouded is the only chamber one

[maiden narwhal]

if you die with a chaos curse on, he claims credit?

[maiden narwhal]

ok cool

[latent moon]

yeah im pretty sure he does

[maiden narwhal]

what a guy

[latent moon]

he shows up on screen when you die lmao

[void vigil]

They’ll show up on the screen and say a voiceline, but you can’t actually die from a curse

Yeah

[maiden narwhal]

are you sure?
i'm positive i've killed myself from curses before

[latent moon]

ik he does that for the -hp stuff, idk if he'd show up for enshrouded since that's not like directly affecting your combat

[stone rune]

caustic could kill you

[void vigil]

No, it gets you to 1hp

[stone rune]

but not maimed or flayed or the other one

[latent moon]

oh also side note, roiling curses (+ enemies) says "encounters" but it doesn't count boss encounters, only normal room combats

[maiden narwhal]

abyssal?

[latent moon]

addled

[maiden narwhal]

there's no abyssal?

[latent moon]

uh

there might be

[maiden narwhal]

where am i getting this from

[latent moon]

oh yeah there is

that one is the trap damage

[maiden narwhal]

...

[latent moon]

so that one can also murder you including caustic lol

[maiden narwhal]

hahaahha i typoed "counted"

[void vigil]

Unfortunate typo LOL

[latent moon]

lmao unfortunate

[maiden narwhal]

anyway i was saying is that the only one where bosses aren't counted?

[latent moon]

yeah

[maiden narwhal]

odd

[latent moon]

i mean those rooms dont spawn additional enemies so roiling effectively doesnt do anything

[maiden narwhal]

wb mm?

oh mm is minibosses only

wb em4 mm

[void vigil]

Huh, none of the bosses at all?

[latent moon]

you cant have chaos curses going into dad fight

[void vigil]

Not even Meg adds?

[maiden narwhal]

well the mini bosess wouldn't get the mm i don't think

[latent moon]

nope

[maiden narwhal]

in em4

[void vigil]

Interesting

[maiden narwhal]

oh ok

yeah makes sense

never seen him in styx

wait but

[latent moon]

i dont have a recording of it anymore since i delete stuff but i took roiling in tart and had it in furies but it didnt go away

[maiden narwhal]

ok chaos egg won't effect curses i guess

[latent moon]

had 1 left going out of tart, took a chaos for more roiling, then died in the next aspho chamber lmao

i thought it'd be funny to have like js8 or something

[maiden narwhal]

found out the hard way lol

[latent moon]

nah i already knew that when taking roiling

[maiden narwhal]

i want max js than in a tartarus chamber

with magnetic gloves

i wanna know how much i can skunk him by

[latent moon]

he might kill things faster than you if you're using talos special lmao

[maiden narwhal]

i think i saw on reddit peoiple have gone to 80

HOW DARE YOU

[latent moon]

yeah it's just enemy type and js

[maiden narwhal]

it's tart i'll one shot them

[latent moon]

like in tartarus js3 if you get unarmored witches and/or numbskulls you can get pretty high numbers

[maiden narwhal]

wait the waves get armour as they go

[latent moon]

bloodless in aspho, blue men in ely

but those are much less spammy

[maiden narwhal]

are the blue men the wave makers?

[latent moon]

im pretty sure they dont but i could be wrong

blue men in ely refer to swordsmen and bowmen

[maiden narwhal]

yeah they do i've died to than

[latent moon]

but blue men in aspho are bone rakers

[maiden narwhal]

oh sorry i thought you said blue men in aspho

[latent moon]

but those have a relatively high enemy value so those dont get spammed as much

bloodless are the normal skeletons

[maiden narwhal]

they can get you from outside the screen?

[latent moon]

wdym

[maiden narwhal]

their cast/projectile

can they be outside the screen and hit you

[latent moon]

oh the red skeletons yeah

those are called wavemakers

[maiden narwhal]

yeah those

i hope they stub their toe

[latent moon]

those can snipe you for funsies

[maiden narwhal]

that range shouldn't be allowed

especially if they can move when they're not on screen

[latent moon]

oh you are right they do get armor as the waves go on lmao

[maiden narwhal]

you can have a sense of where they were last and then the wave can come from an entirely different location

[maiden narwhal]

yeah dying to than is about as embarrassing as it comes

i've actually just hiddfen in a corner

once i know he can't catch up

[latent moon]

i died in a than encounter bc before he spawned in, i hit a trap so i lost my SD and then i died to the last enemy lmao

[maiden narwhal]

oof

[latent moon]

it was in ely too so traps do 75

[maiden narwhal]

ln i had to choose between getting hit by a spear trap, or navigating a cluster of exploding eyes

this is AFTER I HAD CLEARED THE ROOM

that ended the run

[latent moon]

lmao unfortunate

[maiden narwhal]

tant pis

[latent moon]

couldn't you just dash through the eyes

[maiden narwhal]

i sure as hell tried

[latent moon]

lmao rip

[maiden narwhal]

but they weren't all on screen

it was in a corner

[latent moon]

oh lmao unfortunate

[maiden narwhal]

greatshields may as well be minibosses

every one of them

[latent moon]

lmao yeah they're rough

they always spawn facing right btw

so getting to the left of them before they spawn can help a lot

all enemies spawn that way but it matters more on those lol

[stiff obsidian]

Great shields 😁😊😊😁

[maiden narwhal]

yes i read that in the guide. helps if you go backstab

[maiden narwhal]

if you already had an attack and a special
and you didn't need tooth in asphodel
what keepsake would you pick for eris rail?

[stiff obsidian]

Tooth

If you really don't want tooth you can never go wrong with athena

For bonuS dds potentially

[maiden narwhal]

ps if you

are well wiithin autoattack arc

but you are too close

rocket will miss

[maiden narwhal]

over tdash?

[stiff obsidian]

Personally it's not something I'd force

You just need jolt for enough damage to win

Rest can be defensive

You can usually pick up a nice call along the way

[maiden narwhal]

LMAO COUPLE TOOK MY TOOTH BUT I DIDN'T DIE TO LERNIE

i'm the best in the whole world

[stiff obsidian]

That's why we take tooth

[maiden narwhal]

man hyper saved my run

twice

[stiff obsidian]

That's why we take hypersprint

[honest lodge]

Is there a way to skip the map cinematic when moving between areas?

[lavish sorrel]

Nope

It's a well-appreciated break to stretch hands or take a sip of water

[weary gorge]

Can someone explain what kb sized files Hades keeps downloading on steam occassionally?

[lavish sorrel]

Steam does that for games that have not been opened in a while I think. Don't know specifics but I've been told it's something like that

[brisk trail]

Guys, how do i get titan bloods?

[stiff obsidian]

Win over and over again

Would you win?

[mint coral]

How do I get more blood
-beating the first boss for the first time with a weapon will net you one blood.
-final boss drops another + after that you unlock the best way to farm blood.
other sources:
trading for it at lounge (- 1 ambrosia for 1 T.blood is always there and sometimes. -15 keys for 1 blood which is super good)
list of minor prophecies.
-Charon may sell one blood for 1200 gold at the last area shop

[leaden birch]

wow artemis on arthur goes insane

in styx now

randomly hit a satyr with a 4k damage hit

😭

this is like using intercontinental missiles to hunt

[mint coral]

Yeah and the rest of your hits are wet noodles

[leaden birch]

nuh uh

just hit 4k on the tiny vermin twice

that thing got nuked in seconds

I LOVE GAMBLING

MY DAMAGE

[mint coral]

[upper wolf]

just hit the crits 4Head

[leaden birch]

ong

[brisk trail]

So i kinda wasted my first blood from meg for 200 crystals from the dealer… can i still get more from meg

[mint coral]

Have you killed her with other weapons

[brisk trail]

No

[mint coral]

Well, do that

[brisk trail]

I skill issue w other weapons..

[mint coral]

Time to practice then

[stiff obsidian]

stand proud

[brisk trail]

Is there some sort of practice mode or something

[stiff obsidian]

skelly

[rose roost]

the game itself

[acoustic fulcrum]

what's the real mode

[rose roost]

?

there's god mode

there's no real mode

[stiff obsidian]

there is

pull out a sword and chop people down irl

🗣️ best practice you can get

make sure to special -> dash strike dash strike

[rose roost]

real

make sure to get the ME for max slaughter

[brisk trail]

Skelly doesn’t even attack

[stiff obsidian]

yes

thats why its good for practice

[brisk trail]

Do u have tips for hydra

[upper wolf]

don't try to attack it when it does headbonks

just gets away and wait for the attack to end

hide behind pillars when there are a lot of projectiles

otherwise idk

[steep condor]

kids, don't try this at home

[fervent radish]

Or join a hema club near you

[dire elk]

Exactly!

Try it at school obviously

[covert hare]

Theseus as the myth

He is just a normal guy right?

Some people say he is a Demi god but why?

[brisk trail]

So is the power up system in hades basically just boons and magic mirror + aspects?

Btw does higher aspect = higher dmg, cuz achilles spear isn’t doing much dmg

[nocturne kelp]

In the mythos, ppl call him a demi-god for being poseidons son

[covert hare]

He is Poseidon son?

[nocturne kelp]

Yeah

[covert hare]

[nocturne kelp]

Basically, for some ppl, he has either two dads or one

[covert hare]

Fair enough I guess

[latent moon]

the "higher" aspects dont always do more damage, but achilles is by far the strongest spear lmao

the "higher" aspects kinda just exist lol

they cost more titan blood (1 more) to level up/max because they're aspects of olympian gods

[nocturne kelp]

One of them (the two dads lore) is a mortal while the second dad is a god

[covert hare]

Guan you better

[fervent radish]

Maybe for 64

[covert hare]

But yeah even hades recognizes that

By using those skills in em4

[covert hare]

Which lore is in the game because poseidon has that beef with Theseus

[brisk trail]

Ight

[nocturne kelp]

No, mythos itself

You can search it up, if you wanna

[brisk trail]

Where is thanthos, do u see him ingame eventually or is he just a painting

[covert hare]

Homework

[nocturne kelp]

Oh, dam

[covert hare]

Yeah you gonna see him

[brisk trail]

In where

[latent moon]

idk at some point lmao

should be soon

[covert hare]

Just keep playing

[brisk trail]

Ok

[latent moon]

there's a specific point when he shows up but i dont remember when that is

[covert hare]

Im pretty sure the first time is one of his rooms

[brisk trail]

What should i prioritize on unlocking, mirror buffs, or aspects

[covert hare]

You can do both since they use a different currency

But I guess mirror

[brisk trail]

Ight

[latent moon]

i mean unlocking aspects uses a different currency than the mirror lmao

[brisk trail]

Nah, i cant be bothered to start a run just for titan blood again lmao, i got an insane skill issue

[covert hare]

And what did I say

[latent moon]

ngl i missed that somehow lmao

[covert hare]

[latent moon]

idk that message just didnt register in my brain lmao

but yeah mirror's more important

[brisk trail]

WAIT ONCE I BEAT MEG W ALL THE WEAPONS I’LL HAVE TO GO TO THE LAST AREA

Nahh i’m dead

[latent moon]

i mean how long have you been playing lmao

[mint coral]

Tbf while aspects do help you can still win w/different builds

[brisk trail]

I got the game like 2 days ago

[latent moon]

yeah you're fine you have plenty of time

you dont need aspects to win they're just nice

[brisk trail]

Ohh ok

[brisk trail]

The game has builds?

[covert hare]

One of the best hades quotes, “ I don’t need your assistance because I have infinite time “

[mint coral]

Yeah

Also super consistent for a roguelite lol

Mirror/keepsakes are the most important part

[brisk trail]

Ight imma search for one

[mint coral]

Check #h1-builds-and-combat pins

Tho it spoils some keepsakes/aspects

[brisk trail]

Whats a good keepsakes, skelly’s tooth is jjst my go to for extra death defiance

[covert hare]

If you have skill issue I would recommend still using the tooth

Until you unlock more defiances in the mirror

[mint coral]

Meta is like
God keepsake 1 (core of build) > god keepsake 2 (support) > defensive/utility like tooth/acorn/hourglass for ely-styx

[brisk trail]

Imma just keep playing more till i understand what your saying

[covert hare]

Exactly!

[mint coral]

The site that is pinned in #h1-builds-and-combat g9ves over this lol

But yeah just vibe works

Having the codex upgrade for the boon list helps a lot

[covert hare]

You can learn to play the game on your own pretty well anyways

Just like me

( just don’t look at my builds )

[mint coral]

My first win was just seeing blizzard shot in the codex and thinking it looked cool

[covert hare]

( to be fair I did win anyways)

[true oak]

forget which aspect is the strongest, which aspect LOOKS the best?

imo nemesis is a sexy sexy sword

[pulsar relic]

Not sure if this is the place to ask, but how do I bond with Dusa?

I maxed her hearts out, but nothing happened

Google says she should pull up to my room?

She's not doing that 😔

[true oak]

i think you need to buy decorations for the lounge

dw it'll happen eventually without any special effort

[pulsar relic]

My lounge is pretty advanced, I'd say

[pulsar relic]

Alright, alright

She was so expensive

It better 💀

[mint coral]

Arthur if you include the glow it looks pretty nice

Gy too

Shields-not beo also neat

[true oak]

'frost flair' sounds absolutely sick as well

[true oak]

but chaos shield is the ugliest shield in the entire lot

[dire elk]

...

[mint coral]

Chaos looks better than beo

I stand on that

[dire elk]

And zag

[mint coral]

Nah

[dire elk]

everything looks better than zag shield

[true oak]

zag shield also ugly, but not as ugly as chaos

[dire elk]

I disagree

That reminds me

Anyone find it weird that aspect of hades is a trident?

[true oak]

yes it should 100% be a bident

[dire elk]

Or that aspect of Achilles is a bident?

[mint coral]

Simply wrong

[dire elk]

When it is usually depicted as a spear?

There should be a mod that reskins aspect of zeus as a bey blade

🐙

[true oak]

blade rift, spear spin should be bey blades as well

[dire elk]

But they aren't as spinny

Blade rifts definitely

Should be bey blades though

[true oak]

gy spin

[dire elk]

Yea

[true oak]

gy spin is 100% beyblade

[dire elk]

But it doesn't last very long

[quasi dust]

i'd dowload that mod (literally can't but still)

switch sucks

at least for things like mods and achievements the rest is ok

[brisk trail]

.............

[stone rune]

god this game sucks

[dire elk]

E

[lunar terrace]

Do I have to be smart for this game

[latent moon]

i mean that's a bit vague lmao

as with all games you gotta learn how to play it to some extent but i dont think there's that much of a learning curve but idrk

[covert hare]

Die, die less

That’s how you learn

[light cove]

To defeat the Gods and creatures of the underworld one much face death countless times

[dire elk]

Well jokes on you because I can count the exact amount of times I have died doing that

[light cove]

Just rush that boss

[latent moon]

instructions unclear; i am dead

[sudden tapir]

HADES MOBILE IN APPSTORE SET A REMINDER

[sudden tapir]

Downside: a Netflix membership is required 😭

[latent moon]

it do be like that

[narrow hemlock]

yeah its a partnership specifically with netflix unfortunately ):

[light cove]

What the flip

[leaden birch]

yeah you need at least a bachelor's degree

[quasi dust]

But I don't have one

What then?

[stiff obsidian]

Banned

[upper wolf]

to erebus with you

[tepid light]

if you have a high school degree, you can clear heatless with some effort

but you can't even do 1 heat without a college degree

[timid mortar]

I need some help

So I got all the keepsakes but I still haven't gotten the keepsake achievement

Is there something I have to do to earn it apart from owning them?

[upper wolf]

you're probably missing some

there are a couple that are late game

how far along in the game are you ?

[quasi dust]

Damnit

Gotta study hard then

[tepid light]

that's the spirit

[lavish sorrel]

Level them up fully by using them in runs

[brisk trail]

Is diamond only for house contractor to free the musician

[mint coral]

There's more work orders that use them

A few side quests related/most need the deluxe desk first

[brisk trail]

Ight, imma jst free the musician

[mint coral]

Also music

[brisk trail]

............

[stiff obsidian]

spam

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1088591737309638746/1217068719512227941/image.png?ex=6602ae92&is=65f03992&hm=ab3662a910663d51c66d5e5a07461f99d37f37637d86a2c1f5889699bcc14182&

anti purge

[brisk trail]

Is that all he does

Cus he sounds useless, should i jst ssve the diamond for soemthing else

[upper wolf]

yo hades' music is awesome

https://tenor.com/view/have-at-thee-ratatouille-gif-11199067726130995678

[mint coral]

You can buy a music stand to play the songs in the house/each track costs diamonds

[void vigil]

There are other work orders that require diamonds aka more plot lines require them

[mint coral]

Orpheus has an entire story/character so I always free him

• you need him for the lyre (which is another prophecy)

And if you want to max everyone, his and Eurydice's quest is linked

[stiff obsidian]

whos a hades?

[maiden narwhal]

lol ap blacked out attack 3 times in a row

[upper wolf]

it do be like that sometimes

[maiden narwhal]

also.. i restarted a run in chamber 7, and everything was exactly the same back up to that point
how come?
i definitely didn't make all the exact same inputs

also, if your boonlist is:

zeus attack
arty special (common)
athena call (epic)
lightning rod

what do you sell?

roll for special, or sell the call?

[mint coral]

I'd sell call

Can still get it again or zeus

And athena's doesn't open the dd boons iirc

[brisk trail]

Can anyone give tips in asylum or wtv its called, i’m kinda new to it

[wicked sage]

elysium? prepare to be annoyed

thats all the tips i can give you

im still struggling to complete elysium faster

[mint coral]

Ely is a dps check basically

Biggest annoyances are B.balls/shield dudes/flamewheels (small chariots)

[stiff obsidian]

or it can just kill you

[stiff obsidian]

really

[mint coral]

The best way to play ely is to skip most combats

[mint coral]

I mean for newbies mostly

[timid mortar]

Me

[stiff obsidian]

oh

[mint coral]

Is like the typical choice of "I hate them so much" I've seen

[timid mortar]

Hades is God of Dead and REDACTED

[brisk trail]

Alright

[stiff obsidian]

i mean even when i started out ive always seen bballs as big unmoving targets

[mint coral]

Hmm fair

Prob big chariots then

[stiff obsidian]

:despair:

[timid mortar]

Elysium? Shield barriers and flame barrels are gonna ruin your mental health

[wicked sage]

b balls and flamewheels arent that bad

[mint coral]

For flamewheels once you know to just dash through walls is a lot vetter

[wicked sage]

the shield dudes along with the spear and arrow dudes just piss me off big time

[mint coral]

Agree on B.balls once I thought it a bit more

[wicked sage]

you have to kill them twise

[mint coral]

Oh yeah armored archers

[timid mortar]

Also I've built the sigil but no avail for the prophecy

[timid mortar]

I've recently gotten Persephone's

[stiff obsidian]

just entered aspho anfd forgot to change kespake gg

[mint coral]

Just do more runs until dialogue happens

The sigil is for nyx's quest right

[wicked sage]

ripperoni

[timid mortar]

Yes

[timid mortar]

Lmao, happened with me multiple times

[mint coral]

Yeah if nothing happens, do more runs

True for like 99% of cases in this game

[timid mortar]

Let me get onto my PC and I'll put the screenshot

[wicked sage]

yo yall

[timid mortar]

Yo

[wicked sage]

should i focus on getting battie

or should i focus getting sub 10

i feel like the former

[mint coral]

Battie will help for sub 10

[wicked sage]

im aware

[mint coral]

But I say just keep playing

Resetting each time you don't see meg sounds boring

Or get ambrosia so you can max battie asap

[timid mortar]

What's Battie though?

[mint coral]

Meg's summon

[wicked sage]

im just gonna get the varatha and aegis below 20 min

[upper wolf]

some things that can help with elysium that are not obvious at first :

• little chariots die when they hit an obstacle, you can dash around walls to kill them
• the blue spirits when you kill a guy will go toward a weapon, there are spectral weapons laying around. They start becoming a guy again once they reach it
• archers shot once, armored archers shot three times

[mint coral]

Those big locks in the keepsakes cabinet

For shield guys they always spawn facing right

And dashing through their attacks is easier to get hits in (same applies for the boss here)

[stiff obsidian]

zagrail is the worst aspect in thegame

[timid mortar]

https://imgur.com/a/yS1i6Au

Here you go @upper wolf

And also what conditions do I have to follow to get "Defiance" from Chaos? It's the last one from their boons

[upper wolf]

you're missing one keepsake

and chaos defiance is just you need to have already taken a chaos curse/boon before

[timid mortar]

Wait wut

[mint coral]

Quick what's the name of the game

[timid mortar]

Hades also has a keepsake!?

[mint coral]

At 2nd nectar

[timid mortar]

Ah, I see, he gets mad at first nectar. I guess now I'm open to give him one?

[mint coral]

May need a few convos cuz of the lock but yeah

Check the codex and if not open, just keep doing runs

[timid mortar]

Done the nyx one

Let's do the Hades one now

Soon I'll be 100 percenting this game

And I guess I keep on playinf for epilogue?

[stiff obsidian]

thatrs wat they al say

[last veldt]

The resources director says hi...

[stiff obsidian]

high heat and anyheat are the real final bosses

[timid mortar]

I forgot to turn change back to Stygian Heart after Beowulf run 🤡🤡🤡🤡

[mint coral]

Infernal lets you get rod so it's fine

[upper wolf]

the two builds in the game : beo and rod

[timid mortar]

Forgot to change from Chaos' keepsake in Elysium 🤡🤡🤡

Let's hope I get Chaos' portal

[brisk trail]

How do i past thesus or wtv his name his with the bull, literally a 2v1

[brisk trail]

What does it do

[timid mortar]

You don't lose any health when you enter their portal

And ofc, higher chance of gettin better boons from them

[timid mortar]

It's Asterius and the other guy

Take down Asterius first

Don't rush into Theseus directly

Only do when he's done with spin and throwing because he'll expose himself

Or when there's a phase transition

Killing Theseus first would make fight with Asterius a bit hard

I missed out on Chaos gate. 😦

[brisk trail]

Alr

Can u recommend me a build to use, i wanna escape so bar

[timid mortar]

How am I to suggest a build 💀

I usually go with the cards that I have on my hand

It's prefered if you have Athena's Deflect and Ares' attack

While Dionysus' fountain skill

Lmao, ending of Hades post credits is hilarious xD

[icy ferry]

if you have the aspect of nemesis for stygius and the adamant arrowhead, artemis's stuff has worked well for me-- deadly strike/flourish is always great to have

it's a bit hard to rec a build without other info tho-- what kind of play style do you prefer

[timid mortar]

Got extremer measure in shop now

I wanna try it

But I had EM Theseus fight

[icy ferry]

i only ever do extreme measure for tartarus and hydra

the champion fight gets me bad every time

[upper wolf]

don't make me tap the sign

https://www.leereamsnyder.com/blog/hades-build-guide that's the sign

[icy ferry]

[timid mortar]

Damn. Nice website

I wanted to get the achievement to finish the game with every weapon

[brisk trail]

Can anyone gimme tips on escaping

[icy ferry]

keep playing, try out new boons, and focus on upgrades early on

escaping isn't too hard you just have to keep throwing yourself at it early on til you find what works for you

[lone patrol]

Hi there! Does anyone know where in the Game folder could I find Zagreus' animated Login Screen gif if that's possible?

I noticed there's only hair and hand VFX so perhaps it just doesn't exist in a single file?

[void vigil]

It’s better to ask in the modding server, pinned in #self-promotion

[lone patrol]

Alright will do, thought it was maybe out of context since it's related more to data folder searching lol

[maiden narwhal]

what to do

bang my head against 45

or play brotato

[stiff obsidian]

neither

play 45 and win

[maiden narwhal]

intriguing

this sounds like a plan

[stiff obsidian]

are you resetting for delta chamber

[maiden narwhal]

no

but god i love it when i find it

[stiff obsidian]

r u still doing that cursed ap2 pact

[maiden narwhal]

lol no

i'm doing something normal

that doesn't involve ap2, ri, or em4

listen i'm not sure how this seeded run works

i had a really great build but chose wrong in chamber 7, so i gave up to run it again

and it was all exactly the same.. the doors, the boons on offer, even the ones ap removed were the same

even though i obviously wasn't doing [exactly] the same inputs

why?

[upper wolf]

Only some inputs matter

[maiden narwhal]

ah

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/879755279481339975/1217156664000774154/image.png?ex=6603007a&is=65f08b7a&hm=e5a2dec0a2cf6420785b2b54d6260728d061f0e5409962fb7ed4ee5ec832749d& rofl i can't get it without burning myself

my only two boons are epic attack and battle rage
so gangster

no jolted in asphodel is gg ):

how you gonna force zeus and then get only ares and dio the entire level

[maiden narwhal]

i lied but you gotta really find the edge

[maiden narwhal]

delta chamber, five dashes, and i can't kill a damn thing

but they can't kill me either lmao

[latent moon]

btw you can just jump in the magma and pick up the boon lol if you hit interact fast enough you wont get damaged picking it up

and when you exit the menu you gotta dash out asap or you'll take some damage

no jolted tho rip

[maiden narwhal]

now i'm in ely with no special, no dash, and no jolted

i hit lernie in the face with crush shot tho lmao

and it was nice and epic and then i sold it

if i get a hammer like rocket, and then the next door is jolted..

rocket ✅

come on zeus

doh aphro

[stiff obsidian]

thats how i did my first 45

[maiden narwhal]

now i've got patty too

but still no jolted

i've got smouldering air

but no jolted

this is the most cursed run ever i can't even quit it's like a trainwreck where you can't look away

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/879755279481339975/1217160873618182214/image.png?ex=66030466&is=65f08f66&hm=d7efa7bf787aab3bc6204a1d037a99d2ade4f235dd0283f148a18e05072daa75&

\o/

in a trial room lol

watch me die to it

[stiff obsidian]

nice take it

oh its smair aphro

sad

[maiden narwhal]

literally did not get hit once wow
first wave had exploding eyeballs too

it really sucks that you can be good if you focus, but focussing is such a pain in the ass

[maiden narwhal]

what's the other?

[stiff obsidian]

no like

smair with aphro call

[maiden narwhal]

yeah ):

[stiff obsidian]

does nt help ur dmg

[maiden narwhal]

my options were aphro call or heroic attack

maybe i'll get to sell it on the way to styx

aphro call is what kept me untouched in that ares trial room tho

and it's going to stop dad swing dead

so assuming td doesn't get me at heroes, this run might go somewhere

but idk.. the amount of time wasted when i didn't have jolted..

td3 is garbage i want to take my time i want to break urns

[quasi dust]

let zag get his bag

[maiden narwhal]

one minute seven seconds for heroes

that's today's toppest kek

[latent moon]

just win

[quasi dust]

you can do it

[maiden narwhal]

😃

[stiff obsidian]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/725021639506526249/1145144045669204050/image.png?ex=65ff6b80&is=65ecf680&hm=0b8b2d1fd9830866c7843e2a7efeca010f3269b946e42ef7c48f86572c020498&

this qas my first 45

[maiden narwhal]

zag: "times up!"
theseus: noooooooo

[stiff obsidian]

lmaooo this is also delta 5 dash smair aphro call @maiden narwhal

[maiden narwhal]

i beat the heroes in 69 seconds

[latent moon]

nice

[quasi dust]

nice

[stiff obsidian]

nice

[maiden narwhal]

pls no

it's not my fault it was 69 seconds

but also wow

i have no idea how i did that

actually i do know

smair aphro call

[quasi dust]

congrats

[maiden narwhal]

thank you (:

[maiden narwhal]

asterius was stunlocked

[quasi dust]

flashback to that one time i was using td for the first time and had like 4 minutes to beat dad

[maiden narwhal]

every single time he tried to hit me my call was already up

[quasi dust]

damn

[maiden narwhal]

right??

imagine if i had zeus call

but also i'm 100% sure aphro call kept me alive so it's moot

[stiff obsidian]

i meant my 45 heat clear had the exact same things

[maiden narwhal]

i can't read the thumbnails
you had aphro call too?

[stiff obsidian]

pink is aphro

yes

[maiden narwhal]

that's insane

[quasi dust]

yea aphro call

[maiden narwhal]

delta chamber 5 dashes no jolted lernie phase 2 was hilarious

the entire screen full of heads that couldn't hit me

and i could find nowhere safe to land

that one shade in the colosseum that's on your side is like the best thing about this game

[quasi dust]

100% agree

if i was a character in this game i'd be them fr

[maiden narwhal]

that's adorable

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/879755279481339975/1217164409831555072/image.png?ex=660307b1&is=65f092b1&hm=5fe75e8557e09b16eacd78928f8ac546f8fd8f641689057d3aabd5fdf6bab80b& i'm going into styx practically naked how tf am i going to clear in 5 minutes

[quasi dust]

supporting my fellow chthonic gods

(mostly just zag)

[maiden narwhal]

also tubby and orange

[maiden narwhal]

what is the strategy should i buy what i can in the shop first?
i usually save it for the end but

[stiff obsidian]

if i could be any character in the game id probably be theseus lol

[quasi dust]

as smne who doesn't do builds this looks really weird

[maiden narwhal]

that schtick's taken

[quasi dust]

true

[stiff obsidian]

theseus is living in the best part of the underworld and is like super famous and loved there (atleast he believes so)

he has a best friend

[maiden narwhal]

if supergiant could've afforded matt berry, he'd have been the most perfect theseus on earth

[stiff obsidian]

probably rich too

[maiden narwhal]

wym doesn't do builds

[stiff obsidian]

and loves himself

[quasi dust]

idk i improvise

go w the flow

[maiden narwhal]

he was a king he doesn't need to be loved

[quasi dust]

tho i love me some nemesis w arty boons

[maiden narwhal]

at what heat?

[stiff obsidian]

u can do it

[maiden narwhal]

and what aspect?

[quasi dust]

i'm at like 18 or 19 i think is my highest??

[maiden narwhal]

that's rob schneider

[stone rune]

looks fine

[stiff obsidian]

unmodded tho so sack can mess u up

[stone rune]

you have +3 and jolted

[quasi dust]

whatever has dark thrist i'm grinding for darkness on lower heat rn. also clearing em4 w all weapons

[stone rune]

just win

i would simply not get sacked

[maiden narwhal]

i'm going to assume get sacked means can't find it and lose your patty

this happened to me with my 32 and my 40 clear

[stone rune]

oh i didnt even see tosd

[quasi dust]

good luck man

[stone rune]

you're locked in

[maiden narwhal]

what does get sacked mean then?

if not that

just spend too long looking for it?

[stone rune]

get more than 2 sack

[maiden narwhal]

are we talking about the same sack

[stiff obsidian]

:dread:

[quasi dust]

probably not

[maiden narwhal]

lmao

ok but really i need to know

[maiden narwhal]

wym

[stiff obsidian]

modded = sack will be in 2nd tunnel

unmodded = no

[maiden narwhal]

ah

that's how ya'll never lose patty

[quasi dust]

life hack wtf