that would be the dream, yess
#h1-discussion
tepid light
fading loom
aphro attack, arte cast, athena special + dash?
fading loom
sounds.. difficult, but fun
tepid light
ofc even if you can't get deadly reversal, it's still aphrodite strike arthur
stiff obsidian
- and get heart rend
tepid light
so you shouldn't have too much trouble
fading loom
arthur my beloved
stiff obsidian
* and get heart rend
- and smair with zeus
stiff obsidian
smair artemis call goes hard 💯
fading loom
i looove smair
upper wolf
arte attack on arthur sucks
fading loom
smair + any of the on call buffs just feels Good
upper wolf
you either deal no damage because you don't crit, or you deal no damage because your crit was overkill and thus useless
tepid light
but that doesn't give me the same rush as watching a whole ton of arrows come out at once and turn dad into a pincushion
tepid light
you either deal no damage because you don't crit, or you deal no damage because ...
haters mad
/jk
upper wolf
on an aspect that is already very dependent on the clunky third swing to kill, it's hell
also aphro helps with tanking, and arthur is good at tanking
fading loom
similar question, if i have artemis and it's too late to get athena, is artemis dash attack buff generally worth it on arthur? or is it bad
tepid light
i once again must mention unkillable arthur
upper wolf
similar question, if i have artemis and it's too late to get athena, is artemis ...
bad
because arthur dash attack doesn't hit ever
fading loom
fair enough
upper wolf
the hitbox is stupid
it's just frustrating tbh, whereas the standing strikes are slow and clunky but still pretty satisfying
fading loom
aside from obviously athena, which dashes are particularly good? i know poseidon is good with specific builds
tepid light
aside from obviously athena, which dashes *are* particularly good? i know poseid...
poseidon and athena are the big two
upper wolf
I think optimal arthur play is still full dash attack because double edge is also stupid and ME is extra stupid
tepid light
they're basically a league above all others
upper wolf
But it's a pain
tepid light
I think optimal arthur play is still full dash attack because double edge is *al...
but me arthur me want big swing
fading loom
arthur is just silly and dope. i like it 🙂 but i'm also only on ~20 heat
rustic vale
Athena’s going to give you damage so you kill every enemy in one swing rather than 15% of enemies with 3* more damage than you need to
upper wolf
fwiw arthur has a 50 heat ? clear. Although I think it's one of those runs where you don't use your weaopn anyway
stiff obsidian
aside from obviously athena, which dashes *are* particularly good? i know poseid...
arty dash
stiff obsidian
fwiw arthur has a 50 heat ? clear. Although I think it's one of those runs where...
every weapon has atleast 55 unmodded i think
or maybe thats modded
tepid light
fwiw arthur has a 50 heat ? clear. Although I think it's one of those runs where...
from what i understand, that clear was the person just using dash strike
so basically yeah, just not actually using the weapon
fading loom
i never plan to go super high heat anyways tbf
like, if i even go that high, i'll cap out at 32 for the statue
tepid light
fair enough
fading loom
thank you all for the build advice!
unrelatedly, is mom pom worth it if i get all four gods in tartarus?
upper wolf
no
fading loom
dang
upper wolf
you still either go for a god keepsake to get the guaranteed boon and the bonus rarity
or you go for coin purse
or you go for something defensive like tooth or acorn
stiff obsidian
since you are prioritizing skips anyway mom pom is counter intuitive
tepid light
yeah as much as i appreciate mom pom in theory, it's just not nearly reliable enough even if you're farming rooms in styx or something
rustic vale
unrelatedly, is mom pom worth it if i get all four gods in tartarus?
more often it's purse
since you get maybe 1 or 2 levels in asphodel max
fading loom
gotcha, gotcha
fading loom
if i put acorn on for elysium, it'll work in both elysium and styx, right?
it's not just one boss?
rustic vale
yeag
mint coral
Yeah it works for both
fading loom
dope, dope
tepid light
though i'm not sure how i'd personally feel about running across the entirety of elysium with an effectively useless keepsake up until the boss fight
fading loom
that's fair, greatshields kill me more than the champs do
rustic vale
spearpoint might be your play since it works in other rooms as well and 2 heroes attack way more often than Hades
tepid light
that's fair, greatshields kill me more than the champs do
HAHA OH DON'T I KNOW IT
tepid light
i very rarely die to heroes now
did you ever end up playing my pact, out of curiosity
fading loom
honestly, lernie is my best boss, i do worse vs em furies than them
rustic vale
I feel like if I get to heroes at 40, my build is going well enough for it to not be an issue
but Lernie is Lernie
and the Lernie tax is real
stiff obsidian
did you ever end up playing my pact, out of curiosity
im pretty sure im playing ur pact + everything else rn
tepid light
my performance on furies depends entirely on which fury it is
if it's tisiphone, i can get through it with barely a scratch
if it's meg, i might take a few hits, but nothing bad
but if it's alecto
that's pain
tepid light
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1088591737309638746/1208440365418287134/i...
oh jfc
that is terrifying to look at
what heat is that
fading loom
yeah, i find tis the easiest depending on my build as well, although i'm still not great at her
i tend to just dps race my way through the furies honestly, which is probably not smart
stiff obsidian
what heat is that
60 but its basically 56 because i die irl to em4
tepid light
60 but its basically 56 because i die irl to em4
christ
well, respect to you
maybe i can reach that level too someday
tepid light
i tend to just dps race my way through the furies honestly, which is probably no...
this usually works until you run facefirst into two buzzsaws from alecto and eat like 50 damage
stiff obsidian
if you consistently beat cp2 em4 hl5 you def probably can beat 50 already
fading loom
oh yeah alecto destroys me bc of them
tepid light
if you consistently beat cp2 em4 hl5 you def probably can beat 50 already
i dunno, we've long since established that i struggle with certain modifiers that everyone else thinks are easy
and vice versa
so i guess we'll just have to see
tepid light
stubborn defiance?
stiff obsidian
lc4
tepid light
ah
stiff obsidian
i mean if you want to use dds you can play guan yu :troll
and tight deadline 3
if you are ok with ap1 you could do tight deadline 2
tepid light
I fully expect to just stop climbing at some point where the modifiers are just too insufferable to handle
Probably around late 40's
quasi dust
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1207803194659311637/1208448514472935576/VideoEditor_20240217_052217.mp4?ex=65e35261&is=65d0dd61&hm=6e9fff3ad54be0d88e6cb0727cdf10980a7881ba7833cd1f0084787806bc819e& that was way faster than what I'm used to
(darkness grinding run)
mint coral
Mort looking at you:
stiff obsidian
thats what i thought too 😭
rustic vale
idk cuz you're not using meg or antos
quasi dust
i used antos in my previous run
rustic vale
battie so strong you can't forget and antos so cute
stiff obsidian
i keep forgetting to not use companion
quasi dust
i keep forgetting to use companion
torn phoenix
i keep accidentally using companion
quasi dust
that too lmao
mint coral
Start spamming the button as soon as you enter a miniboss chamber
quasi dust
will do
stiff obsidian
Start spamming the button as soon as you enter a miniboss chamber
dont u have to wait for it to spawn
rustic vale
is there even enough room for bball to escape mort
mint coral
On non-mm nah
mint coral
like I get escaping meg on an unfortunately timed dodge
When I mean fail at B.balm meg I meant timing spawn
Meg'd a bit too early so it aimed at zag
nocturne kelp
I somehow got a notif in here...
rustic vale
like 12 hours ago
was the last time someone pinged you here
unless the message got deleted
nocturne kelp
No, it was a random notif abt companions
Like, I just got it rn
Shrugs
Gets off discord
rustic vale
oh like server on mute but somehow a notif got through
mint coral
I think you can turn it off somewhere in settings
nocturne kelp
I'll check
stiff obsidian
i deleted mobile discord so i cant check anymore
rustic vale
I have mobile discord but I've never seen those
I just stole that image from someone else to photoshop
stiff obsidian
go to notifs
stiff obsidian
I just stole that image from someone else to photoshop
me
mint coral
I'm still on old discord so I don't have the feature
rose roost
you could just install an older apk
stiff obsidian
everyone uses android
stiff obsidian
Idk, new layout is nice
cant swipe to members list is the worst part
i keep replying to random messages unintentionally
rose roost
yea i hate that one
nocturne kelp
cant swipe to members list is the worst part
It's annoying
mystic lark
cant swipe to members list is the worst part
Yeah, but I don't use that tab much, so I just stopped doing that after some time
rose roost
nd the search is weird too
nocturne kelp
Like really annoying
mystic lark
I have new layout for like half a year now
rugged pivot
Dionysus's favor requires forging bonds with at least 6 different characters, and gifting a minimum of 10 Ambrosia to any number of characters
So this is what the wiki says about Dionysus's favor
I have already done both of those steps now I'm doing suicide runs over and over talking to him
But nothing happens, what am I missing
Nvm after 20 attempts he finally decided to give me the right voiceline
I hate this rng stuff
latent yacht
i just got cluster bomb + rocket bomb and holy s#it this has to be the most broken combo in the game
rustic vale
i just got cluster bomb + rocket bomb and holy s#it this has to be the most brok...
it’s pretty strong
Definitely up there
torn phoenix
beo unmodded is something else
plush eagle
Hey someone told me that Sea Storm got nerfed so that Tidal Dash no longer procs it. Is this true? If so, when did this nerf happen?
latent moon
tdash does proc it
it's just not a prereq
as in regards to when, not sure but it's prob somewhere in #hades-patch-notes
maybe this one, only sea storm update that mentions prereq
plush eagle
Oh they meant it being changed so that it’s no longer a prerequisite, I misread what they were saying. Thought they were saying that it doesn’t proc.
steep condor
40 heat is so hard. i did it one time but i can't do it again. bout to give up on this game, life no longer has meaning
fervent radish
40 heat is so hard. i did it one time but i can't do it again. bout to give up o...
what's your aspect/build/pact/mirror
steep condor
been trying with hestia / aphro attack and nemesis / merciful end. since both of that didn't work out i've been trying various other things, like eris w zeus attack... nemesis w zeus attack... nemesis w tidal dash... etc
have also been varying the pact, basically hl 2 - 5, lc max, cf 1 - 2, js 1 -3, em3, cp1, bp2, mm1, uc1, fo2, hs 0 - 1, no ri dc ap, td3, pl
latent moon
no td3 might be part of the problem but hard to tell tbh
other than that it might just be like
mechanical skill
if you're dying in normal rooms, js3 might be part of the problem
stiff obsidian
keep hs0
lavish sorrel
And AP1 is fine on builds that don't require much, so hestia in this case
Imo
Unless for some reason 90% of your plan is getting clockets
fervent radish
Dc sucks on hestia imo
lavish sorrel
fervent radish
Nicer pact imo
You can take ap2 if modded too
(Even if not modded if you’re ok resetting for an attack)
lavish sorrel
https://discord.com/channels/456889434672201729/725021639506526249/1204232794855...
You even got clockets that run wtf
fervent radish
no yeah that was a pretty cracked run
fading sail
Is there any in-game way to increase chances for Sisiphus/Eurydice/Patroclus rooms? For example by taking certain paths in chambers or choosing certain rooms?
mint coral
no
actually, maybe not taking the midshop?
I don't remember if those can offer npc rooms after
stone rune
I don't remember if those can offer npc rooms after
they can
fading sail
Btw does Patroclus show only on certain chambers? (E.g. chambers 36-38)
For some reason it feels like he shows up just a few chambers before the boss
latent moon
story rooms can't be in like the first or second chambers of a biome or something
fervent radish
Btw does Patroclus show only on certain chambers? (E.g. chambers 36-38)
Funny you ask. Just today I had him show up in the second chamber
west relic
Was there an update lately? The bosses had new attacks and I went against some new enemies I’ve never seen before
latent moon
nah that's just the game
after your first victory, sneak and i believe wringers can be encountered
and after a certain story beat, the heroes get a new move
and ofc the different furies and hydra forms
west relic
after your first victory, sneak and i believe wringers can be encountered
I haven’t beat the campaign yet
latent moon
you've never got 1 clear?
covert hare
What VA you guys think was the most expensive to hire overall
I think Orpheus or Euridice since they sing
west relic
you've never got 1 clear?
No I have 28 attempts. Keep dying to the last boss in the third phase (trying not to give spoiler)
fading sail
What VA you guys think was the most expensive to hire overall
Definitely Bouldy
fervent radish
No I have 28 attempts. Keep dying to the last boss in the third phase (trying n...
spoilers are fine outside of #h1-for-new-players
latent moon
No I have 28 attempts. Keep dying to the last boss in the third phase (trying n...
the only new stuff you should be seeing is like fury and hydra forms then
covert hare
I think Orpheus or Euridice since they sing
And oh boy do they sing
latent moon
anything else would just be like stuff you didn't see before lmao
west relic
anything else would just be like stuff you didn't see before lmao
I guess
But I’ve beaten Hydra so many times and have never seen his barrage of mortars
Nor have I seen the chain hands
Till this last run
west relic
Trust me. I want a clear lol
latent moon
But I’ve beaten Hydra so many times and have never seen his barrage of mortars
new hydra forms are normal tho
covert hare
I think Orpheus or Euridice since they sing
Or maybe Zagreus since he is the character that talks the most
latent moon
those come with just doing runs, win or lose
west relic
May try the next run using evergreen acorn
west relic
I just got it so I will
steep condor
if you're dying in normal rooms, js3 might be part of the problem
sorry for stopping to reply earlier everyone, it was 2am in my timezone and i was dionysusing
yeah the problem is js3 but if i don't take that the problem is hard labor
yeah it is a skill issue, i don't dodge enough, esp with sword
steep condor
And AP1 is fine on builds that don't require much, so hestia in this case
hadn't even considered ap tbh, but good point, might try that
steep condor
Dc sucks on hestia imo
it's ok w tidal dash but it's just... not fun
your pact looks good but not for my hell mode file. might try on non hell mode
stone rune
its never rlly ok on hestia
steep condor
i managed dc1... until i died
stone rune
i wonder what the game would be like if it was good
latent moon
hadn't even considered ap tbh, but good point, might try that
oh yeah i forgot to mention that ap1 is pretty "standard" on 40
ofc you can do without it but it does take off a good chunk of heat
steep condor
oh, i thought ap was an avoid as long as possible thing
latent moon
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1088591737309638746/1208583113417162933/i...
this is more or less the "standard" 40 pact except dc2 is usually ap1
latent moon
oh, i thought ap was an avoid as long as possible thing
i mean kinda but it's not that bad
it's also 40 heat
so like it's getting to that point where the other options aren't also that great
steep condor
i wonder what the game would be like if it was good
it's good, they just didn't expect people to play for hundreds of hours and actually do high heat and sub5 speedrunning. i think
steep condor
Or maybe Zagreus since he is the character that talks the most
anyway back to what you were talking about before i barged in again
zag and orph are the same guy who is also part of the core team, so they didn't have to hire him
eurydike has a different va for speaking and singing
it really seems like they didn't spend that much money on vas. think that will have changed w hades2
fervent radish
oh, i thought ap was an avoid as long as possible thing
That’s what dc is on hestia
Literally take ri3 before dc prob
AP2 is also not terrible if you get a chonky attack atleast
latent moon
Ap2 at 40 is incredibly sus
echo minnow
once again complaining about how long its been since ive seen thanatos
i miss my wife :(
cyan patio
@void vigil well i heard its not for everyone but it looks cool to me
void vigil
Every game can be hit or miss but it’s very fun
cyan patio
i saw a review basically saying some guy played it once, died. left for a couple months then got back into it cos of a friend
i want this and bg3
void vigil
I played very little of bg3 but I have hundreds of hours in this game
cyan patio
is it only on pc?
prisma wind
They're both very good games (though very different)
void vigil
Baldurs gate is a CRPG and hades is a roguelite which are very different, they can both be good and they can both be not your thing
prisma wind
is it only on pc?
Consoles as well
void vigil
its on like every console and platform except for gog
cyan patio
nintendo lmao
stiff obsidian
‼️
echo minnow
where is this lad it ' s been liike five hours
thanatos come hoooooooooome
pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase
cyan patio
the combat is just mwah
steep condor
where is this lad it ' s been liike five hours
recently i had the thing happen where you meet him during a run and he's not home anyway. was shocked and upset, heartbroken
echo minnow
YEAH SAME
LIKE BRO . BRO
this is so sick and twisted
i ended up giving ambrosia to meg before than somehow !??!?!?! ive literally barely been gifting things to meg i have been putting All ofmy efforts in to than
but no ! he hates me !
quasi dust
THANATOS FINALLY SHOWED UP
Than also appeared on my run after like 3 runs without him
pretty glad to see him ngl
echo minnow
every time i see him i straight up shriek
whenever i am on call with my friends it scares them so bad 😭
quasi dust
every time i see him i straight up shriek
Mood
quasi dust
whenever i am on call with my friends it scares them so bad 😭
Lmaooo💀💀
quasi dust
quasi dust
I mean true but still-
echo minnow
i like side hustle tbh ( <-- guy who is always broke )
quasi dust
i like side hustle tbh ( <-- guy who is always broke )
Same
echo minnow
im so sad i miss thanatos
sorry one day i will shut up about him
but today is not the day
maybe hes mad at me for giving sisyphus gifts idk
steep condor
don't worry he's just mad at you for liking you too much
quasi dust
Tsundere moment
rugged pivot
I have ||skelly's, dusa's, Meg's|| companions, I'm pretty sure one other companion is from ||Than||
Who are the other two from?
upper wolf
Bouldy and Achilles
rugged pivot
Thx
rancid axle
i like side hustle tbh ( <-- guy who is always broke )
Are the side hustle odds higher or something? Seems the only epic Hermes boon I get is side hustle lmao
stiff obsidian
it be like that
quasi dust
Our neighbor's kids came over and I let them play Hades
rancid axle
How old were they?
quasi dust
I don't think they liked it
Tbf from what they've told me, the games they play are completely different from hades so that's understandable
torn phoenix
quasi dust
How old were they?
14 and 12. There was an older girl but she didn't play
rancid axle
Oh nice
last veldt
I got my nephew Hades when he was 14. He hated it at first because he was used to games that basically just let you win fairly easily. After a while he loved it.
quasi dust
Hades is hard to love at first I will admit
But once you get it there's no stopping frfr
It also just depends of its really your kind of game or not
It's okay to not like it obv
brisk trail
When was the first time you played Hades and what happened? Like for me I was at a friends house and the friends dad introduced me to the game
quasi dust
I barely remember but it was probably February 2021 or 2022
My dad bought it on switch cuz it was on sale
At first I wasn't really engaged, I don't remember how I got do obsessed with the game but I did eventually
And here we are
brisk trail
At first I thought the game was insanely hard because his steam deck was at the beginning of the game
quasi dust
Funnily enough my dad doesn't like it at all even tho he was the one that bought it💀
brisk trail
I didn’t know that my family had it until I looked at our switch games apparently my brother played it once and wasn’t a fan of it
void vigil
I was a fan since transistor so I got it day one on epic
torn phoenix
I got hades after buying my friend it and wanting it for myself
rancid axle
When was the first time you played Hades and what happened? Like for me I was at...
It was on sale on Switch and it looked cool lmao
fervent radish
Ap2 at 40 is incredibly sus
I mean, it would have meant no JS, so not a bad tradeoff
No JS and maybe less HL idk
latent moon
That's a bad trade off
Your build doesn't exist
Js is fine
There's just no reason to take it earlier when other things exist
But other things doesn't include ap2
You'd rather take js2 or 3 since you'll actually have a build to kill them fast enough
fervent radish
As long as you get battle rage+any special boon (emphasizing that i would only take AP2 if modded), I think I'd rather have AP than JS
JS is just a slog with hestia and hestia doesn't really need more than an attack
latent moon
Hestia is like one of the faster aspects out there lmao Js is super manageable
Ap2 at 40 is just super unnecessary
fervent radish
I didn't say it was necessary, just that it was an option if the other pacts aren't desired
Since hestia is one of the least boon greedy weapons in the game
Hestia 40 could be doable with shackle
latent moon
even with shackle you dont want to take ap2 lmao
like unironically you dont take ap2 until 50 why would you want to take it at 40
this is the same argument as taking ap/ri and whatnot at 32 heat
there's very little reason to take it so early
plucky gull
how do i unlock the aspects again?? i forgot lmao
mint coral
how do i unlock the aspects again?? i forgot lmao
Unlock all weapons > do a run > check equipped weapon in the courtyard
plucky gull
Unlock all weapons > do a run > check equipped weapon in the courtyard
thank
fervent radish
this is the same argument as taking ap/ri and whatnot at 32 heat
At 32 I think there's no reason to take them, but at 40, I would just consider it an option if I don't want to deal with JS
latent moon
ap2 and ri at 40 is wild
fervent radish
My shackle comment was to emphasize how unreliant hestia is on anything more than an attack boon
latent moon
i mean yeah but there's not really much of a reason to shackle at 40 unless you're starting with dash
or your attack got ap'ed
fervent radish
I'm talking about a boonless run at 40
latent moon
boonless 40 and shackle 40 are different things lmao
fervent radish
Ok to clarify, I meant that hestia could probably do 40 heat without an attack boon and with shackle
latent moon
i mean yeah that's shackle 40
fervent radish
ok
latent moon
it's totally doable
most of the time you'd start with attack so you dont have a reason to shackle, but if you start with dash then yeah you might need to shackle
fervent radish
yeah
stiff obsidian
its the same as regular hestia
latent moon
hestia isn't a needy aspect but that doesnt mean ap2 is a good idea to consider lmao
stiff obsidian
except you dont have acorn
latent moon
yeah
fervent radish
there's very little reason to take it so early
Personally, I don't like dealing with extra enemies on hestia, so AP2 instead of JS is an option
I'm not even saying it's a good option, just that it's something one can do to make other pacts easier because all you really need on hestia is an attack
latent moon
i mean sure you can do that but i wouldn't tell others to do that lmao
stiff obsidian
for 40 heat you can do ap1 js0 easily
latent moon
I'm not even saying it's a good option, just that it's something one can do to m...
but also if you know it's not a good option, then it's probably not a good idea to suggest that because like a lot of things aren't good options but you can take them if you want
like sure you can take ri1 or ri2 at 40 for hestia since it's not a needy aspect and it's super safe so you dont need the 50 extra hp
you dont need to reroll since you mainly only need like 2 or 3 boons
fervent radish
If he was having trouble with some of the other pacts, I was just suggesting it as an option
latent moon
but like why would you take ri2 lol
stiff obsidian
ri is the devil
fervent radish
but also if you know it's not a good option, then it's probably not a good idea ...
What makes something a good option is based on what someone personally wants to deal with in the game, and if they felt they would rather deal with less choice than more enemies, then it’s a good option for them
Ri does suck
Also, people aren’t dumb. If they don’t like a pact, they can choose not to use it. I’m just suggesting AP since I avoided it for a long time but it’s really not that bad, especially on hestia when you don’t need much
stiff obsidian
ap2 is that bad
stiff obsidian
im pretty sure you said ap2
fervent radish
I suggested ap2 as an option at first, but ap1 isn’t that bad
fervent radish
Beo?
stiff obsidian
yep
fervent radish
Real
fervent radish
See beo is different because you need more stuff to get going imo
stiff obsidian
oh that wasnt in reply to the convo btw lol
i just had that rn and thought it was funny
carmine beacon
Is tidal dash worth poming? I agree with everyone it's either the best dash or close to it. But i don't know if it's worth poming for more damage or if it is only the knockback that carry.
native blade
^
carmine beacon
Ok thanks then!
steep condor
but also if you know it's not a good option, then it's probably not a good idea ...
i tried ap1 and turning down other heat options earlier today and while i still didn't win, it did feel a lot easier, so i thought it was a good suggestion
i honestly hadn't considered taking ap before at all. thought it was good that dragonappendix pointed out it's an option because hestia isn't that needy. it wasn't obvious to me before
fervent radish
i tried ap1 and turning down other heat options earlier today and while i still ...
What was your cause of death
latent moon
i tried ap1 and turning down other heat options earlier today and while i still ...
Ap1 is fine at 40, ap2 is the issue lmao
steep condor
literally killed myself with hazard bomb somewhere in elysium when i realized i wouldn't make it, didn't have the motivation to go on and was curious wether hypnos would say anything about it
stiff obsidian
literally killed myself with hazard bomb somewhere in elysium when i realized i ...
steep condor
fish got away too
steep condor
i thought it was intentional for dramatic effect
stiff obsidian
there should be an ingame toggle to turn off fish
rugged pivot
There should be a place at home to train at fishing
I want to be a better fisherman
I only get perfect catches right after the fake bobs
dry mauve
i only play this game to fish
tawdry fossil
I only get perfect catches right after the fake bobs
I BLAME MINECRAFT
I've caught like 2 fishes in my 70 hours of playing this game
fervent radish
I've caught like 2 fishes in my 70 hours of playing this game
Do you want tips for fishing
fervent radish
Lol ye
Alright so
If the first bob is real, it’s tough to get it within the perfect catch window, so don’t worry about it.
If the first bob is fake, then the basic rule is that real bobs happen ~2 seconds after the fake bob while fake bobs happen ~4 seconds after
stone rune
wat
fervent radish
So after a fake bob, I kinda tense/prepare my finger to catch in 2 seconds. If there’s no real bob, I relax and wait for the next fake bob
Then repeat
stone rune
Nyaanyaa's Fishing Guide
There can only be three fake bobs, so the fourth bob is always real if the first three were fake. Fake bobs have an interval of 2-5 seconds while the real bob has an interval of 1-2 seconds. So if it takes more than 2 seconds, it should be a fake bob. Meaning you should look for the real bob within a short time after you start fishing or within a short time after a previous bob.
Personally, I just look for the white flash above the bobber and ignore the bobber itself. Some players have said they have better success when putting their thumb on the bobber to not get distracted by that, so maybe you could give that a try.
A Perfect Catch means catching a fish within 340ms. Perfect Catches are 50/50 on being a legendary or rare fish. Any other catch is 50/50 on being a rare or common fish.
i cover the fish with my thumb
fervent radish
Idk the counting works for me
rustic vale
huh
I just let my ears take over
and focus my eyes a zagreus or so above the bobber
rustic vale
wouldnt it have been funny if they made zeus actually usable
*chiron/ worstlos/gilga
stone rune
im convinced zeus is the worst aspec tin the game
stone rune
i have probably hundreds of hours in this piece of garbage unusable aspect
and not a single half decent result
brisk trail
..........
tepid light
the jazz salt is delicious
latent moon
im convinced zeus is the worst aspec tin the game
try speedrunning gilga or chiron then
im sure you'll change your mind fast enough
tepid light
or arthur
native blade
Gilga stays winning
covert hare
Gilgamesh has the record of making people uninstall the game most quickly
native blade
Gilgamesh has the record of making people uninstall the game most quickly
No shot.
latent moon
its objectively porven
i mean sure but i'm sure chiron and gilga feel a lot worse to play than zeus
tepid light
.....oh, never change, jazz.
me going gilgamesh or chiron in my next run out of spite
fallow hatch
I beat Mr redacted a couple of times today, so I finally judged myself worthy to be here
I’m now watching that great doc supergiant made with noclip
untold onyx
decided to go down an extra tunnel for the first time in ages and got so punished lmao
tiny vermin
stone rune
live tony reaction
untold onyx
still beat the run but my goodness
tepid light
tony's a pain but the fact that he can be knocked around like a regular enemy makes him a lot easier to deal with in some ways
untold onyx
true true
proper tusk
trying to do 32 heat with spear is wearing me down
where is my damage output supposed to come from
stiff obsidian
which spear
proper tusk
feels like its basically required to get a big cast with an epic cast buff from chaos to be able to do any damage
been using achilles
because hades does even less damage
stiff obsidian
you want flurry jab
proper tusk
yeah
stiff obsidian
it is miserable without it
proper tusk
i don’t like that its barely a viable weapon unless you get a specific hammer
i did three other weapons first try on 32 heat but spear is just giving me nothing
stiff obsidian
serrated can work too
proper tusk
i’m thinking about just completely switching gears and doing guan yu and spamming special
stiff obsidian
it does
dry mauve
spear definitely is much better if you have the right hammers vs not, but its totally doable at 32 without the right hammers
sometimes its just the weapon not clicking with you tbh, and takes some time to get used to a playstyle that works for you
im still pretty bad at sword compared to the other weapons
proper tusk
i used to love spear
but i feel like its so much harder to make it work than it is with any other weapon
all my best builds with it have been at not 32 heat which doesn’t help
at 20 heat i had a 900 damage phalanx shot which was great
native blade
I feel like I’ve said this before but I think Spear is a lot of newbies’ first love until they switch to their main
proper tusk
my first ever spear clear had a 300 damage dash strike with serrated edge
native blade
im still pretty bad at sword compared to the other weapons
Sword’s so easy and balanced tho, no shade, just confused as to what specifically is your issue?
proper tusk
I feel like I’ve said this before but I think Spear is a lot of newbies’ first l...
its really simple and attack being able to stunlock most enemies makes it easy to pick up
but also it’s bad and i hate it
ok that’s enough complaining for me
dry mauve
Sword’s so easy and balanced tho, no shade, just confused as to what specificall...
its unsafe
bad/awkward attack patterns leading to a lot of damage taken if you're trying to get max dps from it
just an awkward weapon overall
proper tusk
my 32 heart sword clear was with arthur and i barely used attack at all
completely relied on splash dash
native blade
Lel
proper tusk
hm maybe i should try that with spear
native blade
hm maybe i should try that with spear
Or… Gilga?
dry mauve
fists feels easier to control than sword, though it also suffers from being somewhat unsafe sometimes
proper tusk
wonder if its feasible to get splash dash + sea storm + zeus legendary
dry mauve
its easier to stunlock regular enemies with fists though
stone rune
fists suck sword good
native blade
fists feels easier to control than sword, though it also suffers from being some...
Interesting… And Bow?
dry mauve
i mean bow has significantly more range
its much easier to not take damage with bow for me than sword
stone rune
shield rail bow sword spear fists
lavish sorrel
Sword good 😌
stiff obsidian
sword suscksk
dry mauve
wonder if its feasible to get splash dash + sea storm + zeus legendary
probably dont need to high roll duos
tepid light
fists good sword suck
lavish sorrel
sword suscksk
You-problem 
dry mauve
like that build is a huge amount of prerequisites
proper tusk
oh yea splash dash doesn’t enable sea storm
dry mauve
if you just take splash dash + ruptured you have a pretty powerful boon combo that is significantly easier to put together
native blade
shield rail bow sword spear fists
What makes rail so good?
proper tusk
rail is safe and good damage
lavish sorrel
What makes rail so good?
Clockets hammer combo mostly, as well as having range
dry mauve
like can just do artemis attack, splash dash, ruptured, whatever and probably win
native blade
fists good sword suck
Sword Good, Fists Better.
lavish sorrel
I don't like it but rail is good
dry mauve
clockets is high roll and absurd but even without clockets rail is still good
native blade
its much easier to not take damage with bow for me than sword
So literally everything you just said is the complete opposite for me lol.
tepid light
Sword Good, Fists Better.
say it more, say it louder
sword good fists better
all together now
native blade
rail is safe and good damage
Not how I play lol.
lavish sorrel
like can just do artemis attack, splash dash, ruptured, whatever and probably wi...
EXCUSE ME
Arty attack, are we talking about the same weapon? Unless you mean Hestia specifically?
tepid light
fists suck
fists good sword suck
stiff obsidian
sword worser
stone rune
useless garbage
lavish sorrel
I like playing fists but they suck 
stiff obsidian
worsest weapon
dry mauve
EXCUSE ME
Arty attack, are we talking about the same weapon? Unless you mean Hes...
on spear?
artemis is good on both achilles and hades imo
proper tusk
Not how I play lol.
yea i don’t blame you
tepid light
fists good sword suck
lavish sorrel
on spear?
artemis is good on both achilles and hades imo
OH
dry mauve
both of them have huge percentage buffs already so they really benefit from crit chance
proper tusk
it took me a long time to get warmed up to bow and rail
tepid light
everyone agrees
dry mauve
np it was part of an earlier convo
leninheads was trying to figure out a build to highroll 32 heat on spear since its their worst weapon
tepid light
keep saying it, let's piss off jazz more
stiff obsidian
fists suck sword sucks
tepid light
fists suck sword sucks
but sword suckier
tepid light
tru
if they all suck, nothing does
i suck, you suck, we all suck
we're all bad gamers
might as well play whatever
lavish sorrel
I still suck at the game 
stone rune
fists uck
stone rune
true
native blade
stiff obsidian
not me
stiff obsidian
sorry i cant hear you over the sound of my skill
stiff obsidian
Its been 18 hours without Hades, I can’t stop shaking and I’m having severe breakdowns. I woke up today trying to play Hades but the game kept crashing, I had a major panic attack but managed to calm down after a few hours. I couldn’t go to school today, and I can barely get out of my bed to do anything. I’m sick to my stomach at this point, life is worthless. Its been 19 hours now without Hades. I can no longer take this torture. I'm unable to stop crying and shaking, I've had 10 mental breakdowns. I can't bear the torture of not being able to play a run. I’m starting to hallucinate, I need my Hades again. Please supergiant fix this. I have no more motivation to go on, my life is worthless. I cant take this anymore, Hades has been down for over 24 Hours, I am receiving extreme side affects of extreme breakdowns, extreme anxiety, depression and illness. 24+ hours without hades… I'm having a mental break down right now and I cannot control myself.. I tried touching grass and almost fainted. I miss hades and I have been surviving this brutal experience called “Survive without hades” for almost 36 hours now, put a note on my grave when hades is working again…
echo minnow
i kid you not that is me right now
i was on it for 12 something hours yesterday and am now suffering severe withdrawal
i miss thanatos so bad oh my god
maybe reading fanfic will help
rugged pivot
Dam...
I'm actually kinda burned out of it already I'm thinking about of dropping it entirely and then come back like a couple of months later to finish the platinum trophy, I was grinding a ton just to get the plat but it's an absurd grind that I think it's more fulfilling to just have in short periods of time, since the game isn't changing, I just have to grind more keepsakes and more dialogues
I'm only missing 4 trophies pretty much
void vigil
Which ones?
Yeah take a break if you’re burned out for sure, I keep coming back to it for one or two runs sometimes but I don’t go as hard as challenge runners
I also took a big break during early access
brisk trail
...........
nocturne kelp
...........
BOULDY 🗣🗣‼️
rugged pivot
Which ones?
-Max out all keepsakes
-earn all companions (only missing ||Achilles|| and ||Bouldy||)
-Achille's/Patroclus's quest
-Sisyphus quest
And yeah I'm in no interest of turning up heat, I just like to play chill without heat or maybe turn up extreme measures to see other bosses
Luckily I don't have to anymore, I have like 40 ambrosia and I have given all the nectar I could give, I'm only missing Patroclus I think, and I have all aspects of Zagreus maxed, they're pretty much the only ones I care about (besides the rail, of which I use Hestia because busted)
I already took a long break and came back like a week or something more ago, I'm burned out already of all the suicide runs and very specific things I had to do for trophies lol. Luckily these 4 left are pretty much just grind trophies with nothing to do in particular
Besides just accepting Sisyphus and Patroclus whenever I get the chance to talk with them in Tartarus or Elysium
maiden narwhal
hera cast embeds, right?
mint coral
hera cast embeds, right?
Yeah
mint coral
Aphro too, but it can be shot at certain angles towards walls so it doesn't lodge
maiden narwhal
i think aphro embeds if you're close enough?
mint coral
Most commonly referred as wallbug
maiden narwhal
Aphro too, but it can be shot at certain angles towards walls so it doesn't lodg...
nice ima practice this
maiden narwhal
Most commonly referred as wallbug
ah i've seen that used in the chat. wasn't sure what it was, thanks
would you say aphro best cast on hera?
maiden narwhal
Aphro too, but it can be shot at certain angles towards walls so it doesn't lodg...
even if you use aimbot?
edit what i mean is, does it work if you use aimbot, or will the cursor snap onto the mob
upper wolf
would you say aphro best cast on hera?
yes
mint coral
even if you use aimbot?
edit what i mean is, does it work if you use aimbot, or ...
Should work yeah
Is like hit the enemy with cast and have it hit the wall
maiden narwhal
Is like hit the enemy with cast and have it hit the wall
aah ok so as long as the mob is chipped, it'll take full damage and the cast won't lodge?
but only if there's a wall?
mint coral
Might wanna slow it down but you can see what I mean better
(i'm getting so much mileage out of jazz's vid lmao)
maiden narwhal
good grief the damage
how does chain shot work with aphro hera bow?
guess i'll find out
well
barge of death was a bad place for that
i learned nothing
aw the arrow bounces but the casts don't
formal citrus
Still kinda helpful because Hera is good at taking down single things, so it patches up a weakness nicely.
fallow hatch
How do I use the hidden aspects for any weapon?
Whenever I get one they seem kinda bad
mint coral
Which one are you trying
fallow hatch
None of them because I lost faith
But the one I really got mad at was Beowulf
Because I got it early on when Titan blood was still hard to get
upper wolf
beo is the strongest aspect in the game if you know how to build it :
get flood shot
go for artemis (attack is best, but anything other than dash is good)
get their duo, Mirage Shot
upper wolf
try to be lucky enough to get Charged Shot
put all your poms into your cast
And then it's just a bow but with like 5 billion damage
fallow hatch
try to be lucky enough to get Charged Shot
Ohh, that makes a ton of sense
dry mauve
you dont necessarily need charged shot for beo to be good
upper wolf
load one-two stones, dash strike, charge the bull rush, release, see everyone explode
dry mauve
imo hidden shield and bow are very strong weapons once you get used to their quirks
rail is solid, spear is also solid but takes a LOT of getting used to
sword is okay, fists are considered not the best
maiden narwhal
anyone else find it super annoying that saving in the weapon room doesn't save your keepsake?
upper wolf
yeah
maiden narwhal
why'd they do us like that
rustic vale
anyone else find it super annoying that saving in the weapon room doesn't save y...
Cuz it’s not really saving there
maiden narwhal
Cuz it’s not really saving there
"saved less than a minute ago"
filthy, filthy lies
rustic vale
it saves when you
enter zags room & stuff
But if you go into a run & hit give up
You’ll notice when you load back in
maiden narwhal
also he says "i should check the garden" literally when you're mid dash into your room
rustic vale
It’s just like when you first entered the training room
maiden narwhal
and when you go back, that instance is gone
rustic vale
It’s just like when you first entered the training room
Before you made any changes
maiden narwhal
It’s just like when you first entered the training room
yes exactly
this is how i lose my acorn
and then the run
fallow hatch
sword is okay, fists are considered not the best
Hidden Sword had potential as I could see, but I had now idea how to build it
maiden narwhal
i mean i forget it doesn't save keepsake and start tartarus with acorn on
mint coral
Just press give up then?
maiden narwhal
so i don't have it for ely
rustic vale
Idk I think not starting with your god would be pretty noticable unless you’re in the havit of just starting with whatever
maiden narwhal
i don't force god
rustic vale
maiden narwhal
because someone here
or everyone here
says "until 32 you don't need a build"
so i'm going to get to 32
without a build
rustic vale
because someone here
or everyone here
says "until 32 you don't need a build"
I mean yes it’s possible
maiden narwhal
I make a habit of walking back into zags room
ooh is that how that works
ok cool i'll make that a habit
rustic vale
Because you see idiots on reddit do it after throwing themselves at a wall for ages
until one attempt sticks
right
maiden narwhal
no no i dont mean like that
i do my best to path smart and end up with good synergies
i'm just not going to force a build
rustic vale
& for high heat/speedrunners players who actually know what they’re doing you don’t really need a build
but for your average player forcing is way better than not
Even if you can build whatever syngeries you find it’s going to be a lot worse then
latent moon
because someone here
or everyone here
says "until 32 you don't need a build"
ngl i dont think anyone has said that
but also technically speaking you dont need a build until like whatever record retrash has lmao
which is like 55+
rustic vale
Intentionally building it
maiden narwhal
ngl i dont think anyone has said that
but also technically speaking you dont nee...
so many people have said that!
or echoed the attitude idk
paraphrase
dry mauve
I've been doing bounties on my new file at 25 heat with no forcing and it's not super hard
upper wolf
i mean if you end up going for the meta builds anyway it's not worth
dry mauve
But I've also played higher heat with forcing a lot a few years ago
rustic vale
It’s just not preferable
rustic vale
i just wouldn't tell people to do that
Would agree
latent moon
it's more of like "you can if you want it'll just take more time" or whatever
maiden narwhal
yeah i'm finding 25 a struggle but i'm p sure i'll finish it fairly quickly with decent rng and some focus. just not playing like an idiot
dry mauve
I do think if you're struggling try out the builds people think are good
maiden narwhal
i just wouldn't tell people to do that
no one told me to
i'm just seeing if i can
dry mauve
If you're still doing well feel free to experimemt
maiden narwhal
if i hit a wall i'll probably starting doing m.e or something boring
latent moon
a good chunk of not needing a god keepsake to start is mechanical skill tho, so generally speaking experienced players can pull it off way more often
maiden narwhal
If you're still doing well feel free to experimemt
strugglin
but determined
dry mauve
I don't think forcing ME is good
latent moon
ME every once in a while isnt so bad tho
maiden narwhal
sometimes the gods can be cruel
latent moon
if it fails you can be like "well what did i expect"
maiden narwhal
but usually me comes together
latent moon
and if it goes well then it's yay lmao
maiden narwhal
even if you take dash first
dry mauve
I really like boons that are either just good or good without too many other requirements
maiden narwhal
and once you have m.e it's like autopilot
dry mauve
32 heat ap2 no God keepsakes
maiden narwhal
i will play it
any aspect?
latent moon
give me a build to do
CoD
latent moon
zyru said CoD might be the 2nd best cast build on achilles
stiff obsidian
i will just play guan yu
maiden narwhal
curse of drowning is like cats' belly
latent moon
smh
rustic vale
even if you take dash first
Honestly like
My
20 heat gameplay took ages because I choose to play every aspect with shackle and not taking cores
maiden narwhal
20 heat gameplay took ages because I choose to play every aspect with shackle an...
my 20 went easy with coin purse hourglass acorn
rustic vale
20 heat gameplay took ages because I choose to play every aspect with shackle an...
And like my jump to 32 heat was the same way
Cuz
I tried to do the same thing
maiden narwhal
but 25 is being a pain with shackle coinpurse hourglass
stiff obsidian
cast builds just dont work for me
latent moon
have you tried casting
maiden narwhal
because hourglass in ely means you gotta be good
stiff obsidian
i have trouble hitting cast
rustic vale
but 25 is being a pain with shackle coinpurse hourglass
nah shackle shackle shacke shackle
dry mauve
Think about how easy things will be if you do force now!
maiden narwhal
nah shackle shackle shacke shackle
oh lol do those work?
rustic vale
Yeah
latent moon
because hourglass in ely means you gotta be good
hourglass in ely is only good on like 3 or 4 aspects lol
maiden narwhal
hourglass in ely is only good on like 3 or 4 aspects lol
...
dry mauve
People have done like 50+ heat moonless I think
latent moon
you can just take acorn into ely and styx
dry mauve
Boonless*
maiden narwhal
hourglass in ely is only good on like 3 or 4 aspects lol
i thought it was strategic
extend two shops
latent moon
i mean yeah that's smart
dry mauve
It's very good on cast builds
latent moon
but hourglass just isn't as beneficial on most aspects
say for like, nemesis you take hourglass
dry mauve
Less good on other aspects but can still be useful if you don't need anything else
latent moon
you can only benefit from jerkies (mostly attack but special works too) and ichors if you get rd
stiff obsidian
ok i ask again
maiden narwhal
so if you're not forcing for 25
you'd do shackle coinpurse acorn acorn?
stiff obsidian
guan yu bad what should i play
dry mauve
Also touch of Styx or whatever
latent moon
so if you're not forcing for 25
you'd do shackle coinpurse acorn acorn?
start coin purse
shackle if needed afterwards
then acorn -> acorn
dry mauve
That's another hit from the well besides jerkies
latent moon
or keep shackle throughout
latent moon
That's another hit from the well besides jerkies
true but depends if they're on SD
maiden narwhal
so if not shackle, then what in asphodel?
dry mauve
I've been doing coinpurse, mom, acorn, acorn, but the pom isn't very good
maiden narwhal
unless you're doing lc4 at 25
kinda, the guide said to
dry mauve
Idk what else to take though when I'm playing casually
latent moon
oh i didn't know it says to use that at 25 lmao
maiden narwhal
Idk what else to take though when I'm playing casually
when are you playing... hardcore?
do you speedrun?
dry mauve
No I play slow
maiden narwhal
ah
dry mauve
Most of my runs are 20-25 min igt
dry mauve
So I only turn on td2 most of the time
rustic vale
oh lol do those work?
latent moon
coin purse -> god keepsake -> acorn -> acorn makes sense if you dont need shackle lmao
rustic vale
Now I would never recommend this
stiff obsidian
@rustic vale recommend something
latent moon
but if you dont want to use god keepsakes then aspho is kinda well
stiff obsidian
to play
latent moon
idk lmao
dry mauve
coin purse -> god keepsake -> acorn -> acorn makes sense if you dont need shackl...
What if I don't want to force?
rustic vale
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/725021639506526249/1009935640193945630/...
@stiff obsidian This
latent moon
tooth if you need it
dry mauve
Maybe pom, coinpurse?
dry mauve
Since tart is longer
stiff obsidian
oh shackle
dry mauve
And less boons so pom lands more
maiden narwhal
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/725021639506526249/1009935640193945630/...
32!
crazy
rustic vale
oh shackle
Or super soaker
latent moon
And less boons so pom lands more
maybe i guess but also more money at the start is kinda strong lmao
rustic vale
how do i make hades not lag
“Download more RAM free no virus”
maiden narwhal
coinpurse shackle acorn acorn?
stiff obsidian
i there no graphics setting i can reduce
latent moon
coinpurse shackle acorn acorn?
i mean if you dont need shackle then tooth could work
esp if youre doing lc4 SD
rustic vale
i there no graphics setting i can reduce
Turn off damage numbers?
stiff obsidian
i think i should not play if i am not finding anything fun
dry mauve
I still need to fill out codex in my new file by fighting Charon and buying the hammer swap so my runs are going to be scuffed anyways, so I'm just doing nonforcing runs at 25ish heat for fun since that let's me farm all bounties without constantly adjusting the heat level
maiden narwhal
i mean if you dont need shackle then tooth could work
cool, tooth then
i hate losing defiances to lernie
dry mauve
Is tooth last?
rustic vale
I still need to fill out codex in my new file by fighting Charon and buying the ...
Uhhh
I mean
RNG manipulating Anvil
latent moon
cool, tooth then
i hate losing defiances to lernie
if you're on DDs then tooth isn't good lmao
rustic vale
Is an option to make it less bad
latent moon
tooth i slast
dry mauve
RNG manipulating Anvil
?
rustic vale
can essentially force anvil
by
rotating through rng
until you get the one that works
maiden narwhal
if you're on DDs then tooth isn't good lmao
i play too chill (read : badly) for stubborn
dry mauve
Oh, that sounds a bit silly
rustic vale
it works for eury rarity/poms and bouldy boons too
dry mauve
I've just been buying the swap when it shows up and trying to beat dad with it
latent moon
i play too chill (read : badly) for stubborn
are you using DDs and lc4
becauase that's not a good idea
dry mauve
SD is better on lc4
rustic vale
Oh, that sounds a bit silly
Essentially casting and summons pushes rng by 1 rng amount or whatever for the seed
dry mauve
You need to get better at bosses though
rustic vale
And you can quit out of the rooms & load back in
dry mauve
Since you can't just burn all your DD vs the boss for a massive hp pool
Yeah I get the rng manip now that you mention it
rustic vale
so you take anvil, see if you like what it gave you, and otherwise exit to main menu load back in and cast/csummon one more time then last time
dry mauve
Seems a bit lame though
latent moon
you can't buy anything else in the shop when you want to rng manip tho
rustic vale
it’s time consuming if you don’t get what you want early
latent moon
Seems a bit lame though
sometimes you just want delta chamber and clockets, can one ask for so much?
dry mauve
Also I don't think perfect hammers are required for me to beat regular dad at lower heat
rustic vale
It’s not really that useful since most of the time you have good hammers anywyas
stiff obsidian
so you take anvil, see if you like what it gave you, and otherwise exit to main ...
dry mauve
As long as I don't get garbaged by the worst possible hammers it's fine
rustic vale
on sword it can make bad rng 100* better
maiden narwhal
are you using DDs and lc4
let me show you my pact
rustic vale
and otherwise you can aim for perfect
but you don’t ever need to use rng manip
it’s just a thing that exists
dry mauve
It's like only sword that is unplayable with bad hammers for me
rustic vale
It's like only sword that is unplayable with bad hammers for me
Yeah I mean that’s because sword has the most unplayable hammers
dry mauve
Since it's my worst weapon and the -hp hammer sucks
rustic vale
of any weapon
maiden narwhal
are you using DDs and lc4
how do i optimise this?
(this is 25)
dry mauve
I can make do with random hammers on the other weapons since I'm not at high heat
And on high heat I will not swap
latent moon
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not taking lc4 on DDs is a start
at least td2 or even td3 if you can
rustic vale
And on high heat I will not swap
You now have a tool for high heat as long as it doesn’t ruin your experienc
maiden narwhal
not taking lc4 on DDs is a start
at least td2 or even td3 if you can
2 yes 3 no
if not lc, then what? or switch to stubborn?
upper wolf
Take HS. Don't listen to the crowd. It's fiiiine, surely
maiden narwhal
i feel boss fights will end me
stiff obsidian
switch to stubborn
maiden narwhal
i almost never need defiances for mobs
stiff obsidian
if you are going to push heat switch to stubborn as soon as you can
rustic vale
2 yes 3 no
if not lc, then what? or switch to stubborn?
Switch to stubborn or turn up hl instead
latent moon
2 yes 3 no
if not lc, then what? or switch to stubborn?
switch to stubborn or take lc2 td2
i wouldn't turn up hl
dry mauve
UC is fine
rustic vale
i wouldn't turn up hl
Lc down hl up ~ same thing
latent moon
fo2 and high hl is literally 40 heat
maiden narwhal
Take HS. Don't listen to the crowd. It's fiiiine, surely
took me 3 runs and athena to finish that LAST REMAINING PROPHECY pact
dry mauve
If you need more heat CF is an option
maiden narwhal
never ever playing hs again
latent moon
i think there's plenty of heat sources to go around atm tho
dry mauve
DC is okay on certain aspects but garbage otherwise
maiden narwhal
if you are going to push heat switch to stubborn as soon as you can
cool
stiff obsidian
unless you are pushing guan yu heat then just stick to dds ig 💀
latent moon
yeah
dry mauve
If you have lost your SD then Athena can give you a DD
latent moon
in that room
dry mauve
In the next room you will have both a regular DD and SD
maiden narwhal
good thing they're never patching again
dry mauve
So it's good to intentionally die if you're about to pick up an Athena boon
maiden narwhal
oh yeah
latent moon
So it's good to intentionally die if you're about to pick up an Athena boon
if you have the prereq*
dry mauve
Also if you're low hp you can intentionally die to just heal up to 30%
rustic vale
good thing they're never patching again
I mean if some game destroying bug comes out
maiden narwhal
that's two defiances