maybe left handed people will understand idk
#h1-discussion
maiden narwhal
stiff obsidian
im left handed
rose roost
maybe you're just comfortable with m4? so y not just use that
maiden narwhal
i just wanted to know if other people shared that experience
my point being, controller > mouse
but since they don't
eh
covert hare
I guess companions count since it’s not you doing the damage
rose roost
there prolly are
stiff obsidian
q was slightly problematic for me but i got used to it
im left handed with a 2 button mouse
void vigil
What even is q I don’t remember
rose roost
controller vs kbm is personal preference there is no best
stiff obsidian
special
void vigil
Right
maiden narwhal
im left handed
how old are you?
you ever play streetfighter on an arcade machine?
stiff obsidian
no
void vigil
I don’t use them, so no problem 😎
maiden narwhal
well then idk how to explain controller roll problem left to right
you know hadouken?
stiff obsidian
no
maiden narwhal
liar
stiff obsidian
wat
maiden narwhal
how can you not know hadouken wtf
mint coral
Oops
lavish sorrel
latt did a full run of anyheat like that using VM 
stiff obsidian
shards go brrr
covert hare
how can you not know hadouken wtf
I don’t know
maiden narwhal
maiden narwhal
so anyway my point is i can only execute it on one side of the screen
not the other
maiden narwhal
( i play smash bros ultímate )
i've never played that did they do a sf mashup
covert hare
i've never played that did they do a sf mashup
Ryu and ken are on the game
maiden narwhal
ooh it's a fighter
i always assumed it was like.. crash bandicoot lol
"special b" lol
spoken like a console owner
ever play king of fighters?
kof 99 is the best fighter ever made
all ruined after that
void vigil
Smash bros is only on console, since it’s a Nintendo game
maiden narwhal
aah
mint coral
Fwiw both ryu and ken have their normal inputs too
maiden narwhal
would be in arcades i guess
if arcades still existed
mint coral
You can still do the hadouken motion in smash
void vigil
arcades do exist 
maiden narwhal
where
void vigil
I don’t understand the question
maiden narwhal
there's only those like.. fun land/zone kind of places
covert hare
ever play king of fighters?
kof 99 is the best fighter ever made
Nope
maiden narwhal
with air hockey and shooting games and massive tekken machines. maybe
those are the only kinds of "arcades" i've seen anymore
void vigil
either way this is more of a conversation for #video-games since it’s no longer about hades
maiden narwhal
I don’t understand the question
which part of the world
maiden narwhal
either way this is more of a conversation for <#725022285504708739> since it’s n...
are you a mod?
is that why you're purple?
void vigil
yes
maiden narwhal
fanci
void vigil
You can see what roles I have
void vigil
maiden narwhal
You can see what roles I have
the little coloured buttons? idk what all that means
void vigil
Each one has a name next to it
maiden narwhal
but the first one is moderators
void vigil
And you can choose some for yourself in #server-roles
yes, that one is for moderators, and the rest are for fun
void vigil
I moderate the discord which I guess includes all the game channels
void vigil
very busy looking at my phone all day 
covert hare
Hipnos would be an iPad kid
tepid light
Me going through a very nice and satisfying run only to realize I forgot to increase heat, meaning it didn't contribute to my climb
Aggh
Ah well, artemis strike arthur with +60% attack damage from chaos made me chuckle
It also means I get to play arthur again
So
Yay
void vigil
I did all my sword bounties with arthur
tepid light
arthur will always be my favorite sword aspect
stiff obsidian
Me going through a very nice and satisfying run only to realize I forgot to incr...
Literally me when I did 50 thinking it was 52 the whole time
stiff obsidian
I did all my sword bounties with arthur
Yooo 🤝
stiff obsidian
wqat
maiden narwhal
those are my boons tho, if it's relevant
but really i want to know like.. tier of hermes boons
maiden narwhal
i have poseidon cast
quick reload would let me really hammer them maybe?
stiff obsidian
the cast isnt a significant part of your damage here
usually the enemy should be dead within those 5 seconds
maiden narwhal
3rd is common hustle
i guess recovery but i don't like building assuming i'll get hit
stiff obsidian
i mean, nothing to lose
stiff obsidian
that doesnt do anything
stiff obsidian
i can only see it being used on achilles and poseidon aspects
maiden narwhal
i get it with artemis
hm
ok
oh yeah poseidon with faster special and faster special mod
would be crazy
animation time on the sword special is so slow tho
lavish sorrel
i can only see it being used on achilles and poseidon aspects
you mean quick special? yeah, can confirm for pos sword.
stiff obsidian
flurry cast
maiden narwhal
it's ok if you get the rhythm guess
stiff obsidian
lol
maiden narwhal
don't mind me I'm stupid <:bouldy:673973170792955936>
don't worry i got a tshirt that says i'm with you ❤️
steep condor
show hades who his daddy is
oedipus vibes
stiff obsidian
🤨
dry mauve
huh, I didn't realize that skipping the final boss (10th clear) adds about 4 minutes or so to the timer
my run history now shows a TD3 clear that took 22 minutes long as a result...
elder osprey
Anybody else find Tisiphone incredibly easy compared to the other two?
torn phoenix
meg for me
latent moon
I find tis to be easy but a pain to deal with because she takes forever to kill/phase
stiff obsidian
man guan yu sucks
latent moon
Have you tried not being bad
stiff obsidian
ohhhh
latent moon
What heat are you doing
stiff obsidian
52
latent moon
And are you doing spin
stiff obsidian
no
stiff obsidian
c34 and speeder chariot bopped me out of existence as soon as i entered
latent moon
Oh lmao rip
upper wolf
is that a GY issue or a BP2 issue though :p
latent moon
Gy considering bp2 is standard at that point lmao
upper wolf
yeah, and speed chariots are standardized pain
stiff obsidian
without patty u getting 1 tapped
with other aspects you get 2 tapped
x2 survival
bright totem
is nectaring everyone the way to progress the story?
lavish sorrel
To true ending, yes
bright totem
also the option to nectar hades is gone after the first one 🤔
are there conditions im missing?
latent moon
yeah probably
bright totem
idk who else to nectar besides nyx probably to advance the story
dry mauve
everyone has a locked heart at some point
you need to do a specific "quest" to unlock that heart
hades's locked heart just happens to be very early on
also some quests are very easy and you might just do them accidentally
for example, charon's quest is just spending enough gold over all your runs
its very possible to have just done that accidentally before you even get to where the locked heart should be
mystic lark
Knowing super optimized, analyzed and speedrunner approved builds is kinda sad
Going only for that one build becomes boring really fast
But when you just go in random build you cant help but think "that specific build was more optimized and smooth"
latent moon
some speedrun builds are kinda "whatever works"
nemesis, achilles, and zag sword are pretty "versatile"
it's kinda why i like nem a lot
mystic lark
Nemesis is really nice, I use it most of the time when I'm going with the sword
latent moon
you can start shackle or tidal dash and work with whatever you get
it's pretty fun
instead of always starting like arty/aphro and going for crit builds lmao
or ME
mystic lark
Yeah, I mostly used shackle for last tens of runs before going into build you recommended
dry mauve
if you just want to play with whatever works i like starting coin purse
being able to buy an extra boon in tartarus is cool for figuring out what you want to build towards
mystic lark
I think the only time I used purse is when I was maxing out all keepsakes.. Thanks, I will try it later
latent moon
purse is a good keepsake for "i'll take whatever" runs
dry mauve
its not as good as forcing your first boon obviously
but if you dont like forcing a boon and want variety then i think playing with the extra money is fun
latent moon
retrash uses purse
dry mauve
that guy is a madman
mystic lark
Btw, how bad is Artemis when you choose another god in the double boon room? Last time I chose not her was probably at least 200~ hours ago, I don't remember anymore. Because she is the best girl and I don't want to make her sad. :D
But maybe she is faster/more safe than some other options?
latent moon
she either has circles that come from the ground or has an arrow following you and i dont remember whcih one lmao
dry mauve
if i were to guess they spawn randomly near you and then chase you around
dry mauve
the ones with a projectile chasing you are aphro and poseidon
latent moon
i dont take trials
dry mauve
which i always find more difficult
imo athena is easiest, though it takes a long time
demeter is also fairly easy
then next is the various circles on the ground
and then the chasing projectiles
latent moon
dem is a pain because of hit stun imo
there's like no indicator of where/when the circle starts and it takes up such a large area
and lasts a long time
mystic lark
Dem and Aphro, if you are stuck, you are stuck :D
dry mauve
there's like no indicator of where/when the circle starts and it takes up such a...
there's an indicator for the circle i think
you do have to lead enemies away from it though
latent moon
dem trial in aspho sounds horrible lmfao
mystic lark
Honestly almost any trial sounds like a pain in asphodel
dry mauve
ok yeah the more room you have to move around the easier it is
though that's true for all trials to be fair
hmm, can i not post images in this channel?
latent moon
gotta use image embeds
dry mauve
this is the demeter telegraph
the actual zone appears like ~1 second later?
something like that
i think its fairly easy because its just:
if you see the circle appear move to a completely different section of the map
dont need to focus on dodging anything just need to not be in the general area
latent moon
and then another one spawns there 
dry mauve
then you move back!
i find it easier since i dont have to focus on dodging multiple things at once
in other trials i get hit because im bad and need to pay attention to enemies and the moving circles and everything else
with this i mostly just have to pay attention to enemies and then keep in mind that i have to move locations periodically
drowsy linden
dem is free if you dont care about time
dry mauve
I usually only play TD2 so time isn't a huge issue
I just hate the idea of losing a reasonable run to TD3 rng since I don't use mods
rustic vale
Bloons td2
Nah Hades TD2
covert hare
The house of hades randomly gets filled with bloons and hades is like
“ ZAGREUS CLEAN ALL OF THIS NOW “
drowsy linden
bloons adventure time tower defence and hades collab when
rustic vale
Honestly give me Hades the btd roguelite pleassssseeee
drowsy linden
i need to have my finn beo on a moab
rustic vale
Honestly a td roguelite just sounds interesting
drowsy linden
technically vampire survivors
covert hare
The house of hades randomly gets filled with bloons and hades is like
“ ZAGREUS ...
“ give me the aspect of dart monkey “
And the bow turns into darts
rustic vale
Dart Monkey is more like rail
covert hare
Dart Monkey is more like rail
More monkeys
rustic vale
Aspect of Dartling Gunner
desert tundra
I've seen multiple people in here that play Hades, also really like BTD
what is the correlation lmao
covert hare
“ give me the aspect of link “
The master sword
Also the bow of light
rustic vale
I've seen multiple people in here that play Hades, also really like BTD
Popular game / popular gsme
Overlap in communities
woah
desert tundra
What I mean is it's their main game along with Hades
Also I don't know what a "gsme" is 
covert hare
What I mean is it's their main game along with Hades
There doesn’t have to be a correlation
I can just make it up
A portal opening in house of hades to the fortnite island is entirely possible
rustic vale
What I mean is it's their main game along with Hades
I mean
Btd6 hasn’t been my main game in yearsss
But I can still join in the festivities
stiff obsidian
Bad game 👎👎
nimble patrol
Nuh uh
stark badger
I've played hades so much now that all my dreams are in a birds eye view and have those chamber reward bubbles in them.
proper tusk
goddamn 32 heat is hard
i didn’t have any trouble at all going from 8 to 16
but 16 to 32 is making me feel like i just picked up the game lol
rustic vale
but 16 to 32 is making me feel like i just picked up the game lol
It’s a big change
every level of heat you add is going to be significantly worse than the last because it combos with everything else you have active
Look into getting a proper mirror/pact
since there are easier ways to build those than others
stiff obsidian
It's great
latent moon
but 16 to 32 is making me feel like i just picked up the game lol
There's a 32 heat guide pinned in #h1-high-heat-strategies if you need it
steep condor
since 32 is when you're supposed to do no healing so that's when you're meant to start using stubborn defiance, right?
steep condor
couldn't have imagined no healing on my 32 heat hell mode hestia clear but maybe i'll try for me nemesis
dry mauve
you will probably have to learn something you're uncomfortable with for 32 though
forced overtime
or no healing + stubborn defiance
or TD3
or just turn HL up to 5
or something like that
none of these are super terrible but they all take some getting used to/changing your playstyle
steep condor
yeah the uncomfortable part for me is td3. noticed i'm slow because i zone out sometimes
dry mauve
you can always take TD2 and make up the heat elsewhere
TD2 is fairly free for most players I think
even if you do some pretty slow stuff occasionally
you dont have to do all the things i listed
those are just the major options you have for rounding out your heat, you can mix and match them as you'd like to get to 32
steep condor
i think i've been playing too much so the bad parts of adhd are kicking in, that's why i zone out. it's more than just doing "slow stuff occassionally". tbh i'd rather do fo9000 than td3
stiff obsidian
No you wouldn't
rustic vale
since 32 is when you're supposed to do no healing so that's when you're meant to...
Yeah
steep condor
but i did td3 w/ hestia so i'll manage. i really was mainly wondering about how people were doing the no healing part and the answer is stubborn defiance
stiff obsidian
Real people do lc4 dds
steep condor
No you wouldn't
yeah i'd complain and whine about it if that's what you mean
rustic vale
You have some wiggle room still but like
dry mauve
you dont need all of those
dry mauve
i did 32 heat all aspects when the game came out and then quit for a long time
and I didnt turn on FO or TD3 for most of them
FO because i wasnt used to it and didnt want to learn it
and I just hate TD3
rustic vale
Yes, you do not have to
stiff obsidian
That sounds much harder than it should have been
rustic vale
Do I recommend it anyways? Yes
because I think it’s easier
Then whatever else you could throw on
dry mauve
i think you want to learn at least FO1 for sure
rustic vale
And then sets you up better for 40
dry mauve
i just didnt want to go through the adjustment period at the time
rustic vale
Also you can learn them all individually at like 20 heat earlier
dry mauve
but there are reasonable pacts without it
sage sphinx
Okay... So
dry mauve
for example, this is 32 heat with no FO or TD3
https://i.imgur.com/HrgcRcZ.png
most of my runs a few years ago looked something similar to this
(obviously switch DC for something else depending on aspect)
but I agree that in hindsight I should have just gone back to low heat and done 20+ runs to learn FO
rustic vale
Yeah I just don’t like recommending cf or js 
dry mauve
now that I'm doing FO runs its not that bad after the adjustment period
rustic vale
And dc always comes with the “subjective based on aspect*” asterisk
dry mauve
JS1 isnt terrible without TD3 tbh, though if you can do FO1 I would turn off CF and JS first
sage sphinx
I just threw myself into the deep end and went straight to FO2 and cried lol
rustic vale
Js1 isn’t terrible but at the same time it is just like
steep condor
maybe it's cause i'm used to it but i feel like js1 really isn't that hard if you're not speed running
dry mauve
i started a fresh file recently and immediately turned on FO2
dry mauve
took me like 20 or so runs to adjust
but its not too bad after you get the hang of it
I do remember trying to turn it on after like 100+ non-FO runs felt impossible to me though
rustic vale
maybe it's cause i'm used to it but i feel like js1 really isn't that hard if yo...
Are you timing out with td3 as is?
And is that a matter of attention or a matter of mechanical skill (you did mention adhd early hence my question)
Or maybe like not pausing when making decisions
steep condor
i'm not timing out, i won one time with 32 heat / td3 and since then been trying to do ME and mostly failing to get ME
but i noticed that i have too little time left in elysium to make it
rustic vale
Hmm
dry mauve
elysium is unfortunately a huge slog if your build lacks dps
rustic vale
Then you should be good to go imo
I wouldn’t worry too much about td3
Even if you’re cutting it close it isn’t instadeath
steep condor
(forgot i need to capitalze ME again so i don't accidentally invite people to do parchmentwork w me again)
steep condor
nemesis blade
rustic vale
and what do you think the main reason for not having enough time is?
stiff obsidian
Td3 easier than js3
rustic vale
I’d rather td3 than js1 td2 since it’s the same game but one has more enemies
latent moon
i think i've been playing too much so the bad parts of adhd are kicking in, that...
you'd do in tartarus lmao
fo4 is already 100% speed
tepid light
Dad dead with 26 hp and no DD's left
Not even close bb
That was fun though, lvl 3 demeter strike with +35% and +70% attack damage from chaos
on arthur
maiden narwhal
i can clear rooms in ~5 seconds in tartarus and styx, but not in asphodel and certainly not in elysium
what am i doing wrong?
is it because i avoid armour break?
stone rune
i can clear rooms in ~5 seconds in tartarus and styx, but not in asphodel and ce...
it’s because tart and styx encounters are smaller
5 seconds is still faster than average though
a combat is usually around 8
in tart
maiden narwhal
even if you say 5 seconds per mob
i'm nowhere near that
stone rune
?
maiden narwhal
?
yesterday someone said you should kill mobs in 5 seconds or something
i guess they meant asap
but the point is, is it supposed to be consistent?
stone rune
idk where u get that from that’s very arbitrary
maiden narwhal
or is my damage scaling wrong
stone rune
probably just a build issue
maiden narwhal
do you spread your poms out?
stone rune
no
maiden narwhal
ok good
stone rune
concentrate poms on boons that benefit from them most
but the main thing is if ur not making good decisions and not having a build in mind your damage will suck
what wep r u playing
maiden narwhal
yes i do that but it's not always clear which those are
if i have aphrodite fists and demeter cast (because i'm trying to cross the duo off my list), do i focus all my points into fist?
spread them between fist and cast?
ignore critical strike boons completely?
stone rune
wait
maiden narwhal
what wep r u playing
gilgamesh
stone rune
do u have aph atk on fists
stone rune
there’s ur issue
that sucks
u want flat damage
zeus dio ares
also don’t take crystal beam ever it’s garbage
also gilga is the worst aspect in the game
so there are several key factors as to why your damage sucks
maiden narwhal
but daddy i love him
you know i am speaking generally tho
with all weapons and builds
maiden narwhal
i drop significantly in elysium
stone rune
it’s probably a similar issue
maiden narwhal
and only scale big in styx if i get the right duo
stone rune
do u use god keepsakes to control ur build
maiden narwhal
build depends on we
is there a sticky on this somewhere that shows best builds for each weapon?
stone rune
https://docs.google.com/document/d/16_JXPaAt8fegie6Ss2x5tVeaR-FzoFlIgp0etd3yLHI/mobilebasic# https://www.leereamsnyder.com/blog/hades-build-guide
maiden narwhal
do u use god keepsakes to control ur build
right now i'm doing that to clear prophecies
otherwise i pom until elysium, then acorn
if i have strong build i pom until styx
rustic vale
if you want a strong build
maiden narwhal
good to know
rustic vale
You force it
maiden narwhal
understood
rustic vale
That’s what god keepsakes are for
maiden narwhal
i'll go through the website
and then force builds once i've cleared duo prophecies
rustic vale
Tart and Asphodel are for god keepsakes to get your build in place, elysiums is either defense(acorn) or util (like hourglass or purse) or damage(dad call), and styx is defense(acorn) or dad call
Typically
As a guideline
rustic vale
is there a sticky on this somewhere that shows best builds for each weapon?
Fast hit: lightning, hangover, doom
Slow hit: +% like aphrodite
then it’s just picking up what synergizes well from their
like lightning and aphrodite for smouldering air lets you snag excess dps from a good call
Or hangover with aphrodite for 8 stacks
Doom with athena to drop it faster through merciful end (typically take athema special to open the Merciful End but actually deflect with divine dash)
maiden narwhal
Doom with athena to drop it faster through merciful end (typically take athema s...
do i want ares on the weapon and athena on the dash for that?
rustic vale
Well
You want doom on strike for 23/24 weapons
And then athena on special
You need athena on attack or special to even find merciful end
maiden narwhal
You need athena on attack or special to even find merciful end
yes i know but then i switch her to dash asap
rustic vale
but then divine dash is actually what drops the doom for you so you find it
You don’t need to get rid of your athena special
maiden narwhal
ok cool so that's the way to do that
maiden narwhal
You don’t need to get rid of your athena special
but then fam fave?
rustic vale
Yeah then you just dash strike into enemies
family favourites just needs gods i. Your pool
They don’t need to be on core boons
maiden narwhal
got it
maiden narwhal
so there's no benefit to having a different god on every boon, cool
rustic vale
Honestly in most cases it’s a detriment
Since it dillutes your duo pool
if you build for merciful end you really want to find it and openning other athena/ares duos#s immediately cuts your odds in half
Sprry for typing it’s early in the morning (or just extra late at night for me)
But yeah no benefit from having multiple gods
maiden narwhal
Since it dillutes your duo pool
didn't think of this yeah
haha you are v legible no worries
why do you not like gilgamesh
as long as you don't get hit...
rustic vale
Shorter dashes, slower dash strikes and longer dash cooldown
maiden narwhal
does it just not scale for high heat
rustic vale
Shorter dashes, slower dash strikes and longer dash cooldown
The extra dashes don’t make up for all this
maiden narwhal
Shorter dashes, slower dash strikes and longer dash cooldown
swing is much easier to play than jab though
i wish other aspects were swing
rustic vale
they essentially are because you spend the whole game dash striking
It may be easier to play… but like so is chiron and chiron is the worst bow aspect
Just because it’s a simple gameplay pattern
Doesn’t make it good
rustic vale
It may be easier to play… but like so is chiron and chiron is the worst bow aspe...
In terms of heat and speed*
Just want to make sure I have my metrics down on the tables
maiden narwhal
chiron is a++ in terms of can't aim a ranged weapon
i'm going to go get lunch, thanks for taking the time to lay this out. some useful tips.
sleek violet
If I want to make a crystal beam build but I get the common rarity one should I purge it and try to get a higher rarity?
wicked sage
what do i need to do exactly to complete the queen's plan?
tepid light
If I want to make a crystal beam build but I get the common rarity one should I...
No, just take more poms
Not worth running the risk of going without your key boon for longer, and possibly never getting it again
sleek violet
thanks
steep condor
and what do you think the main reason for not having enough time is?
sry late reply, had to work. the main reason is simply skill issues. js1 and cp1 (hell mode) and having a hard time getting your build while also not being that good of a player makes me too slow
maiden narwhal
1356 gold
i feel like i'm not going to kill papa with this build
should i cut my losses and buy blood?
hah i whooped him
brisk trail
..........
bright totem
spend entire run trying to get ME
finally get it at a styx chamber
dad doesnt fight
lavish sorrel
enjoy the free pass 
bright totem
what's the lock on the second heart mean on hades' codex sheet
maiden narwhal
i'm having a really hard time with arthur sword
is dash reposition possible from the second swing? or only for the third?
how do you dash and not dash strike
so i guess... dash special attack attack dash attack?
stiff obsidian
you can dash between all of the swings
maiden narwhal
you can dash between all of the swings
it keeps turning into a dash attack
if you can dash between all the swings then i guess i'll get it eventually
stiff obsidian
i wish , that would make arthur so much better
maiden narwhal
ok it's not so much you're dashing between strikes... it's like you're dashing during?
especially for the heavy ones
do you have to wait on the animation
but the guide said you can animation cancel
maiden narwhal
ok it's not so much you're dashing between strikes... it's like you're dashing d...
no this is only for the third, heaviest slash, that you have enough time to reposition before it falls
stiff obsidian
idk much about arthur sry lmao
i just spam click attack
and dash when i have to
maiden narwhal
if you can time heavy slash right with backstab, you can clear whole swathes
theoretically
with shadow slash
which i was forced into
guide says arthur is the only sword where you're not supposed to dash strike
that's pretty difficult
if i get hypersprint i pretty much have to choose rush delivery, yeah?
rose roost
if you get it first then sure lol
true oak
is ice wine bonus additive?
hidden trench
AW DAMN I MISSED THE https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1085810544906342471/1203034541422547044/image.png?ex=65cfa039&is=65bd2b39&hm=ff214048057f57aa3bb1c961a3690e0907e0e07ad7764ff55929cadf510175fb&
hidden trench
my trout 
nimble patrol
🐟
steep condor
in my timezone it is evening, but that doesn't matter in the underworld
so, with max lasting consequences and stubborn defiance, you're still supposed to take as much chaos as possible?
slim leaf
in my timezone it is evening, but that doesn't matter in the underworld
Oh sorry I forgot about that
I'm Brazilian
slim leaf
so, with max lasting consequences and stubborn defiance, you're still supposed t...
Idk sorry
upper wolf
so, with max lasting consequences and stubborn defiance, you're still supposed t...
yes
upper wolf
How are y'all?
good enough. You ?
upper wolf
it kinda is yeah
zagbow is pretty strong though, it just suffers from Hera and Rama being cracked
slim leaf
zagbow is pretty strong though, it just suffers from Hera and Rama being cracked
Yup, the bow is my favorite weapon, but I'm trying to use some other weapons
sleek violet
isn't there a way to be close with thanatos withot being gay?
nocturne kelp
isn't there a way to be close with thanatos withot being gay?
Why'd you ask lol
sleek violet
because I prefer artemis
slim leaf
What's wrong with being gay?
sleek violet
like if I want to max my relationship with everyone
will zagreus just romance everyone?
nocturne kelp
I'm sure he can only romance meg/than and dusa
sleek violet
what if I max all three
mint coral
isn't there a way to be close with thanatos withot being gay?
there's options to stay as friends yeah
slim leaf
A little bit I think
sleek violet
damn
nocturne kelp
Yeah
slim leaf
Ok
slim leaf
Thx
nocturne kelp
Yw
slim leaf
There's kiss of Styx on shop but I only have 199
slim leaf
dw abt it..
(what does dw mean?)
autumn rose
don't worry
nocturne kelp
Fun fact about greek mythology: the gods don't care if someone is their relative they'll marry whoever they like
Teehee
slim leaf
Fun fact about greek mythology: the gods don't care if someone is their relative...
Yup
Zeus and Hera are siblings, Gaia and Uran are mother and son etc
nocturne kelp
Yeah
steep condor
does he get sad tho?
you will be able to make achoice and iirc it says sth like "either way it will be ok". it will be ok
slim leaf
Is there a way to get 100% critical chance?
stiff obsidian
quite easily
slim leaf
How?
nocturne kelp
Hi
slim leaf
nemesis with arty attack is already 45%
Hm
stiff obsidian
then like a lvl 2 hunters mark already pushes it above 100%
slim leaf
Oh
I see
Nice kiss of Styx and now I have money
Got cruel thrust, 85% on thrusts after special, nice
sour fog
originally yeah
slim leaf
Hades is Persephone's uncle ;-;
.
sleek violet
even if not biologically it's still a bit weird
on pair with siblings dating
so artemis is good
slim leaf
I believe persephone is hades' niece
Yes, but I think in game Demeter is not Zeus and Hades' sister
nocturne kelp
Fun fact about greek mythology: the gods don't care if someone is their relative...
hi.
sour fog
I mean originally she's Zeus' daughter I believe, and he's Demeter's brother
sleek violet
Yes, but I think in game Demeter is not Zeus and Hades' sister
foster sister yea
but still
slim leaf
Yup
sleek violet
yea
slim leaf
in greek mythology there's even some mom-son offspring
Gaia and Uran
sour fog
yeah that's the one I was thinking of
wonder if we'll have Gaia in Hades 2 at least mentioned, and how they're gonna adress that lol
slim leaf
they didn't care much
Oedipus did...
slim leaf
wonder if we'll have Gaia in Hades 2 at least mentioned, and how they're gonna a...
Chronos is mentioned in the trailer right?
sour fog
not very
mint coral
I don't like her call at least
stiff obsidian
its on the lower end
slim leaf
if you do full cast it's one of the highest nukes
I don't use cast much
sour fog
but the small cast is super weak
slim leaf
And it's a build focused on crítica of the attack
upper wolf
it's less damage than casting dio/zeus 4 times or a full artemis with even the slightest investment
mint coral
I don't use cast much
greater call they mean
mint coral
And it's a build focused on crítica of the attack
What weapon is this
stiff obsidian
you have to consider the possibility that you are bad
stone rune
it’s true
upper wolf
jazz kinda bad tbh, she only has like a ton of sub6
stone rune
we should bow down to the user who knows divine strike is great on fists because they cleared 16 heat on it
upper wolf
probably worse than the average redditor
nocturne kelp
we should bow down to the user who knows divine strike is great on fists because...
Hi
stone rune
no way
nocturne kelp
(Dont)
stone rune
it’s better on luci
with divine flourish
and phalanx shot
and divine dash
and athena’s aid
autumn rose
and holy shield
stiff obsidian
i divine strike my opps irl
mint coral
Don't forget blinding flash
slim leaf
@nocturne kelp just killed you and your bull friend, sorry
stiff obsidian
real
slim leaf
?
nocturne kelp
<@963830878713307186> just killed you and your bull friend, sorry
#&#^#>#<# ok.
slim leaf
Lol
slim leaf
Ok... There's a fish in Hades Arena, I can't die
I have 7 life
And he has like
40% of life
F
Just died
upper wolf
gl
slim leaf
Lost my fish
upper wolf
RIP the fish
nocturne kelp
I ate it sorry
sterile crystal
What is the best aspect on the bow?
slim leaf
At least I got a Hellfish
lavish sorrel
What is the best aspect on the bow?
Depends what for
Either Rama or Hera
With Rama being more universally good while Hera is more of a speed-bow
upper wolf
also a bit of personal preference tbh
upper wolf
valid
slim leaf
I need suggestions on duo boon try to get now
lavish sorrel
Hera can do heat things too, this is true
upper wolf
and rama can be pretty fast
true oak
am i the only one that likes zagbow lol
slim leaf
am i the only one that likes zagbow lol
I like it too
sterile crystal
Dionysius my love bless me with your presence for this run I'm about to do
true oak
it just feels nice
slim leaf
I usually use it
sterile crystal
I chiron didn't want me to steal from him then he wouldn't have a big pouch of money out in the open
This dude just looking for a fight
upper wolf
he does
he has fun bonking you
Zagbow is still pretty good, it's just that rama and hera are broken
true oak
hmm i wouldn't say broken
sterile crystal
Why is he so good with a paddle
rustic vale
There is only one broken thing in this game
mint coral
I chiron didn't want me to steal from him then he wouldn't have a big pouch of m...
Smth smth if I had a penny for each time this typo happened
upper wolf
There is only one broken thing in this game
oh, you
rustic vale
Hera and Rama are the best bow aspects but they aren’t broken
upper wolf
idk, bow is already pretty good at baseline and hera and rama are really great
sterile crystal
Smth smth if I had a penny for each time this typo happened
Leave me be
rustic vale
Shield is also good at baseline but then you end up with bugowulf which is both power broken and bugged broken
sterile crystal
I love throwing an over sized plate at megs face
true oak
huh? what does that mean
upper wolf
I love waiting around while meg is spinning inside a polyhedron
rustic vale
Or like 3-6 typhons depending on my bugowolf luck
upper wolf
tbh those 3-6 are worth a thousand regular ones
true oak
oh i thought you were talkign about typhoons fury
and i was wondering how you were wallslamming meg
mint coral
Thyphoon is certainly a boon
rustic vale
Typhon is also a thing outside of boons
Wallslamming meg isn’t impossible
Bosses get affected by knockback, just at a drastically reduced rate
mint coral
I still want to experience the wall slam bug on dad once at least
rustic vale
But I wasn’t talking about wallslams, flood flare is just strong
rustic vale
I still want to experience the wall slam bug on dad once at least
You can dream just like I do for flurry/piercing wave heroic swift strike zag
true oak
Bosses get affected by knockback, just at a drastically reduced rate
second wave
rustic vale
2* a very small number is still a very small number
but I mean you do run mirage shot w/flood flare anyways so like
12 knockbacks wjth no extra casts
rustic vale
~~second wave~~
mint coral
https://www.reddit.com/r/HadesTheGame/comments/puu0he/am_i_allowed_to_deal_this_...
oh hey I forgot I commented here
quasi dust
Guys is Artemis' aid good?
quasi dust
Ah
mint coral
Major weakness is that it's only work is for bosses
quasi dust
Idk I chose it over pressure point
upper wolf
I mean
upper wolf
kinda ?
quasi dust
Major weakness is that it's only work is for bosses
That's what I use it for lol
upper wolf
but it's not like a huge error or anything
quasi dust
Eh I'm not going for anything specific, I'm trying to get back to the game, tho I wanted to hear what y'all thought
upper wolf
also artemis aid can be useful in normal rooms but you need like 500IQ to find the use
mint coral
I mean it won't kill you taking it
quasi dust
also artemis aid can be useful in normal rooms but you need like 500IQ to find t...
Dang
quasi dust
I mean it won't kill you taking it
Fair
upper wolf
it's good for iframes, and sniping a single enemy can sometimes be useful
mint coral
also artemis aid can be useful in normal rooms but you need like 500IQ to find t...
aka billowing strength second wind
upper wolf
also that yes
quasi dust
Idk what that is
mint coral
Dmg after call/speed + dodge after call
upper wolf
boons that give you bonus after using your call
mint coral
From zeus and hermes respectively
quasi dust
Ahhh
Ok yeah I know those
I should get back to learning boon's names
Anyway, thank you for your feedback
mystic lark
If you disable vsync, game becomes more smooth, who would have thought, lol. And here I was wandering why does it feel on 7900 xtx worse than it was on 3060.
echo scaffold
If you disable vsync, game becomes more smooth, who would have thought, lol. And...
V-sync is only used for screen-splitting, when half your screen updates a frame late. However, g-sync doesn't have the same problems so if you have an Nvidia GPU you should enable it.
This applies to all games btw
mystic lark
V-sync is only used for screen-splitting, when half your screen updates a frame ...
I know, I just forgor it was turned on when I was migrating to new pc
mystic lark
Maybe it turned on when installing on new windows, idk
But for a few months I was wondering why hades runs worse on my new top-end pc than it was on mediocre game laptop :D
mystic lark
7900 xtx is a new one )
mystic lark
3060 mobile (for laptops)
With 4 gigs of vram
Which was a total pain with a 4k monitor
echo scaffold
3060 and 4k seems a little iffy, even if itwas desktop 3060
mystic lark
Yeah. It was struggling.
mystic lark
I bought this monitor way before the laptop though. I was forced to sell my old pc and buy laptop instead when I moved to another country, since shipping old stuff was not an option back then. Later I was able to get my monitor back, but laptop was really struggling. With both work and games.
But few months ago I was finally able to buy a good pc
For the first time I am able to play games on ultra in 4k
The only thing lacking is raytracing which is better on nvidia cards. But nvidia cards with 24gb vram cost two times as much
echo scaffold
Gaming laptops usually aren't a good spend, they are only good in very specific circumstances, like I had to get mine because I needed to move between my mom and dad's house. So a laptop was the only option
Raytracing is so laggy everytime I turn it on, even with 1440p or 1080p
mystic lark
Yup, for me too. After moving I spent half a year in a small room in my relative's house, not knowing when I would be able to move anywhere else. So buying a pc was not really an option. I needed something portable, but good anough for remote work and some games
echo scaffold
The main problem I'm having right now is storage
It only came with 500gb
I'm gonna need to buy a 2tb ssd soon
rustic vale
Guys is Artemis' aid good?
It’s very limited as far as calls go
If you want dps from your call, you want to be looking to take zeus or dionysus
Tiny calls are your friend
echo scaffold
I'm terrible at using calls
mystic lark
I was going to say my usual "Just what are you storing on your pc, I'm fine with just 250, there is 50gb left", but then I remembered I now have a 1tb ssd, and there really is 50gb left ._.
Do you keep lots of games installed, or do you use your storage for something else?
echo scaffold
I can't beat 3 heat
rustic vale
Well it’s a matter of practice
What’s your specific issue with “using calls”? Is it just forgetting you have one?
mystic lark
I'm terrible at using calls
I was always neglecting calls, but when trying to go fast they became important, so now I have to keep them in mind
Same with casts, for first hundred or two ours I almost never used them, lol
echo scaffold
I was going to say my usual "Just what are you storing on your pc, I'm fine with...
I tried to reinstall titanfall 2, and that's when I realized how I had no storage for anything
rustic vale
Well tbf casts aren’t getting used much outside of castpects
echo scaffold
Had to uninstall destiny 2
rustic vale
Had to uninstall destiny 2
Honestly probably a good thing for your mental health
rustic vale
It’s fun but it’s also like
echo scaffold
Freezing people was funny
rustic vale
Geared towards keeping you coming back and constantly asking for more money for dlcs
echo scaffold
I didnt even notice it, but I had 60 hours in
echo scaffold
Geared towards keeping you coming back and constantly asking for more money for ...
There was a deal 2 months ago where beyond light witch queen and shadowkeep were free
echo scaffold
60 is pathetc
I had to get a new account, I lost my login to my old email
I had 700 hours
rustic vale
big Bungie just wants your money
rustic vale
As fun as it is
mystic lark
Pathetic, you need at least 500
echo scaffold
I didnt realize I clocked in 60 on this new account
echo scaffold
Pathetic, you need at least 500
I barely have 200 on Hades
rustic vale
So anyways
Back to calls
Is the issue you have with using them remembering to use them?
echo scaffold
Yes
rustic vale
ah
echo scaffold
At the end of an encounter it's like full
And I just waste ot on 1 guy xu I killed the rest
rustic vale
At the end of an encounter it's like full
Yeah we want to be using it as soon as you have a 25% tick mark hit (or the nearest time where thag would be profitable)
drowsy linden
i just try to make a habit of looking at the bar
a good way to remember is every wave/hp phase
rustic vale
I feel like perhaps a few smouldering air focused runs should help you
since you constantly end up using your call with it
mystic lark
In PonyQOL mod you can enable a regular call hint that displays when you can use small call, it helped me at the beginning
echo scaffold
I think I just need to focus more then I play
rustic vale
A part of your problems with 3 heat may come from how you’re building
rustic vale
A part of your problems with 3 heat may come from how you’re building
Like your pact, your mirror, the keepsakes you’re taking
drowsy linden
gy is very good when used right
echo scaffold
Ppl have told me it's bad
mystic lark
It is not bad, it is specific
rustic vale
Ppl have told me it's bad
So we don’t trust everyones Hades advice universally
drowsy linden
heat 3 is not much different from heat 0 unless you take specific pacts(lc, dc, all hs, all lc, cf, ap, ri, hs)
rustic vale
Those are opinions and they are bad opinions
mystic lark
Ppl have told me it's bad
Here people only hate chiron, because you can't go fast with it :D
I love it tho >_>
echo scaffold
heat 3 is not much different from heat 0 unless you take specific pacts(lc, dc, ...
I definitely know what those acronyms are, I think I just had the one that made the furies boss hard and like extra enemies
rustic vale
You’ll find a ton of people with bad opinions, it’s just a matter of experience and getting more involved with commmnitt here
rustic vale
I definitely know what those acronyms are, I think I just had the one that made ...
Extra enemies is one that’s nust annoying
Like I don’t turn it on until 40 heat
drowsy linden
Here people only hate chiron, because you can't go fast with it :D
I love it tho...
and chaos and sometimes gilg
and talos
rustic vale
I don’t hate chiron I just stress how it isn’t mechanically strong 
You can have fun with a weapon/aspect without it being strong
rustic vale
Achilles is the best spear
drowsy linden
but gy is fun with the right hammers
rustic vale
The right hammer. Charged Skewer 
mystic lark
Btw, what's wrong with talos? I always liked magnetizing enemies
drowsy linden
no its quick spin massive sspin
echo scaffold
Do I use cats with schilles.
rustic vale
Btw, what's wrong with talos? I always liked magnetizing enemies
It’s genuinely just not a useful buff
echo scaffold
Casts*
drowsy linden
Btw, what's wrong with talos? I always liked magnetizing enemies
the buff isnt very good(its just boiling blood), and it gets outclassed by the other 2 fists
rustic vale
+50% on your attack is just 
on a low base damage fast hitter like fists, and +50% to casts is just like… look at what other cast based aspects are offering you
drowsy linden
although 5 damage is still decent considering common unpommed lightning strike is 10
rustic vale
Do I use cats with schilles.
Yes
echo scaffold
Which one?
drowsy linden
slicing shot
echo scaffold
I think I used aphro last time I tried it
echo scaffold
slicing shot
Which god
drowsy linden
get hunting blades
rustic vale
either hunting blades (artemis strike -> slicing shot) or lightning phalanx ( lightning strike -> phalanx shot)
drowsy linden
get hunting blades
note: freezing vortex locks hunting
echo scaffold
Idk what the hell the names of boons are tbh
rustic vale
Idk what the hell the names of boons are tbh
Artemis strike + ares cast + their duo (makes the blades home in on enemies)
echo scaffold
Cool
mystic lark
Is aspect of achilles better?
You know, at 3 heat I would just try all aspects a few times and go with the one I have most fun with. There is no such thing as bad aspects, only those that are harder/slower. Lots of people here focus on running fast, which is absolutely not required when you just want to play the game. I was playing that way for 500 hours, and it was fun.
IMHO you should first focus on the mirror and your pact. And then look into boons a bit more, read the wiki to see the list of duos and requirements to get specific boons.
rustic vale
I think I used aphro last time I tried it
Aphro cast really only works on hera because it fixes all the range issues
drowsy linden
Aphro cast really only works on hera because it fixes all the range issues
and pos
echo scaffold
I haven't used achilles in a while
rustic vale
far in
slim leaf
Good evening (idk what time is it rn for you sorry)
rustic vale
but there are things that just click and we can help with it
rustic vale
Good evening (idk what time is it rn for you sorry)
It’s always evening somewhere
echo scaffold
I stopped playing soon after my friend stopped, I'm gonna try and get back into hades
But Titanfall 2 is still gonna be my main game
mystic lark
I stopped playing soon after my friend stopped, I'm gonna try and get back into ...
This server and r/Hades got me into hades again too, it is nice to sometimes have people to talk with about the game. And see other people talking.
rustic vale
r/Hades 
echo scaffold
Definitely
drowsy linden
discord people hate reddit
rustic vale
home of every bad hades opinion spat at you like fact
drowsy linden
fr, TheGamer is much better
rustic vale
discord people hate reddit<:shadethumbsup:1150926794187354162>
Honestly though like how does it manage to be that every gaming subreddit sucks compared to their discord counterpart
mystic lark
home of every bad hades opinion spat at you like fact
Eh, I'm there for the memes
Can't say they are top quality, but sometimes they are fun
rustic vale
because it isn’t just Hades
I would just be
Incredibly
Incredibly
wary of any opinions
you see on r/Hades
stone rune
Honestly though like how does it manage to be that every gaming subreddit sucks ...
on reddit its much less one on one
mint coral
Honestly though like how does it manage to be that every gaming subreddit sucks ...
I always treat it to how much dedicated to the game people are tbh
rustic vale
Take them for a grain of a grain of salt
stone rune
like
in a reddit you're getting voted on by everyone
and generally most people usck
mint coral
I don't join most discords for games cuz like why
mystic lark
Well, it's a place where mostly casual playing people gather, so...
stone rune
while in discord if someone says something thats incorrect you can just correct them
rustic vale
On reddit it just turns into an arguing match of comments with random people jutting in saying things that are related
and no one leaves having changed their mind
slim leaf
It’s always evening somewhere <:shadethumbsup:1150926794187354162>
Good point
stone rune
like on reddit if i say that first pom requires having a boon i can get downvoted by like 20 people
covert hare
nix told me to donate darkness in order to help with the chaos thing, but nothing appears, do i have to reset the game? or do one more run
stone rune
in discord if someone says that first pom doesnt require a boon and i correct them its not the same sort of thing
mint coral
nix told me to donate darkness in order to help with the chaos thing, but nothin...
when it doubt, one more run
rustic vale
like on reddit if i say that first pom requires having a boon i can get downvote...
…has this actually happened
echo scaffold
wary of any opinions
Would it help to mention that's where I got my told gy was bad?
stone rune
…has this actually happened
yes
slim leaf
nix told me to donate darkness in order to help with the chaos thing, but nothin...
You say the thing Hades uses to teleport?
mint coral
also just to be sure you are checking work orders
slim leaf
On the room Zag worked
rustic vale
Would it help to mention that's where I got my told gy was bad?
It would make a lot of sense
Btw gaming journals about Hades aren’t any better
stone rune
"You can get that on any run where you get a hammer in the first room and then simply pick a pom before a boon." 19 score
rustic vale
Take a gander at the gamer 
stone rune
"no you can't, first pom cannot appear until you've picked up a boon" -21 score
mystic lark
Btw gaming journals about Hades aren’t any better
What do they say? Haven't read any
rustic vale
What do they say? Haven't read any
Best aspect of lucifer build is take literally every single athena boon
etc
stone rune
wow
echo scaffold
Btw gaming journals about Hades aren’t any better
It's good that the first 2 results on Google are always either game journals or reddit
stone rune
idk is there really a human being out there who would recommend sea storm arthur
i guess critical recommended chaos shield lol
drowsy linden
What do they say? Haven't read any
sea storm arthur
rustic vale
stone rune
i really feel like its a joke though
rustic vale
Nuh uh I’m not having this one again dyno
stone rune
it literally says bronze skin
drowsy linden
gotta get that riposte and blinding flash
echo scaffold
Bronze skin??? Isn't that just DR??
slim leaf
I don't like the rail very much
stone rune
i dont think even the most uninformed person on the planet would call bronze skin essential
mint coral
hold up I found one more funny
rustic vale
slim leaf
The only aspect I can use is Lucifer's
stone rune
what build do u do
echo scaffold
The only aspect I can use is Lucifer's
Same
rustic vale
i dont think even the most uninformed person on the planet would call bronze ski...
I have a feeling they were just like “ok I think athena works well here, I’m just going to copy paste the boon list”
echo scaffold
Fk reloading man
drowsy linden
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/795659377755422742/1188630923193897111/...
thats actually somewhat viable so long as sea storm doesnt have a big icd
slim leaf
Lol
rustic vale
thats actually somewhat viable so long as sea storm doesnt have a big icd
It has the same icd
drowsy linden
theres no support fire
rustic vale
sea storm is 0.2 i think
Just like every other bolt
stone rune
trippy shot :widecharon3: