yeah that ought to do it
#h1-discussion
opaque fable
mint coral
You need one
covert hare
i see
opaque fable
it refreshes companion charge
i struggle with every hidden aspect, beo the least
even hitting mirage shot i feel like i'm faster on hera
covert hare
btw im really close to have gotten every single dual boon, should i use the mirror upgrade for dual/legendary? or is it not worth losing the epic boons
upper wolf
if you want to find the last ones, yeah it's worth
mint coral
Might as well get it done now
rustic vale
well
mint coral
And most that want duos use pride anyways
opaque fable
some duos are awful
upper wolf
and then there's ME, which wants both duo and epics 
upper wolf
meh, I take legacy on builds revolving around duos
opaque fable
imo the only builds that i swap to legacy for are me, hunting blades, and crystal clarity
these builds are extremely tragic if you don't hit
covert hare
its not abould builds, its just for the reward of gettin every single one
upper wolf
then yeah
mint coral
Both ME and blades run pride
upper wolf
100% worth going legacy
opaque fable
i mean yeah if you're just hunting proph then turn on legacy
upper wolf
no offense but I don't really understand how it is a question ?
if you want to get duos to finish the list, why would you not take the mirror perk that ups the chance to find those ?
opaque fable
most of these runs will be go lose angles anyways (unless you're a gamer) because idk how you plan to win while deliberately gunning for like, blizz shot or something
mint coral
drowsy linden
you can make an absolutely cursed pact with just 20 heat
opaque fable
ap2 ri4 em4?
drowsy linden
ri4 td3 lc4 dc2/cp2/ap/uc
ri4 lc4 make it so that you cant heal, td3 forces you to go fast, the rest just remove your speed
also maybe cf2
opaque fable
don't you stop healing with lc4 anyways
opaque fable
oh right
drowsy linden
and also ri4 just kills your damage and safety in general with df, authority, thick skin, and double dash
rustic vale
imo the only builds that i swap to legacy for are me, hunting blades, and crysta...
Replying to this message so I can find it again when I propaganda bomb it
opaque fable
em4 hits different i guess
mint coral
carried by rod
mint coral
Cuz its good
mint coral
I mean yeah that's a different thing
For starters are you dash striking/have the power shot timing memorized
tulip stone
i feel like my issue is that it's too slow for me
ig all this boils down to is a me problem
mint coral
Dash strikes charge faster that's why I ask
opaque fable
bow in the top half of weapons in this game
rama high heat and hera speedrunning
just do not click chiron and you'll probably be fine
covert hare
There is something I don’t get
Is Zagreus dead but like dead dead?
Since he is linked to the underworld
Does he count as alive even if he dies?
Can a God die?
opaque fable
He's alive he just respawns
Beings connected to the underworld are not necessarily dead
drowsy linden
Since he is linked to the underworld
he just lives in there
similar to how you can have dead people and not dead people in a cemetery
when someone dies, they reemerge from the river styx, so its like a respawn checkpoint
so theyre dead in the sense that they have died before, but not in the sense that they have defining features
covert hare
he just lives in there
similar to how you can have dead people and not dead peop...
What about shades
covert hare
So those are dead dead?
If Achilles for example went to the surface, people would only see a ghost ?
mint coral
See: Orpheus and eury tale
Orpheus was about to get her back to life until he looked back 
covert hare
if you get out of the house, then youre alive
So that’s the importance of not letting people escape?
Because if you escape you are basically alive again?
mint coral
Yup
covert hare
Damn
mint coral
Doubt anyone is getting past cerb anyways
opaque fable
Wdym forced returns
opaque fable
At the cottage?
covert hare
Yeah
opaque fable
He's innately tied to the underworld as the son of a cthonic god
covert hare
When he goes “ oooo damn I don’t feel good aaaaaagh “
opaque fable
Bound to the river styx, he cannot survive in the real world for long before returning to it
I believe hades has a similar problem
mint coral
Yeah
rustic vale
So zagreus forced returns are a unique thing ?
Zag always has to return
same w/ Hades
mint coral
Also Zag is lucky he's at minimum bounded to the underworld
Considering he wasn't supposed to live
Always thanks Nyx y'all
opaque fable
Zag gets 2 cool moms its not fair
opaque fable
Hades 2 better make zag sound chronically indoors to mel
rustic vale
“You need to touch grass”
covert hare
Always thanks Nyx y'all
Actually that was the reason of this whole thing
I wanted to ask is Zagreus was like a living carriage miss
If yk
That’s why i asked if he is like dead dead
mint coral
Zag is that ice age meme
rustic vale
Y’know
mint coral
"did you die?
"Yes, but I lived"
opaque fable
“You need to touch grass”
"mel you know that im deathly allergic to it"
rustic vale
Persephone shouldn’t have freaked out when Zag was dead
She was literally in Hades
y’know, where all the dead people are
opaque fable
I think giving birth to a stillborn son is gonna traumatize you no matter what
covert hare
If videogames existed in hades verse, gaming insults would be like “ you should there is no escape yourself “
drowsy linden
context:
hades is the name of the underworld
covert hare
How do you unlock gun secret aspect
mint coral
5 blood in rail, talk to zeus
covert hare
Damn I thought unkocking secret aspects would be hard
opaque fable
It really isn't
covert hare
But it’s always just spend 5 blood and wait for a dialogue
drowsy linden
But it’s always just spend 5 blood and wait for a dialogue
that dialogue part
i waited over 10 runs for beo
opaque fable
Rng dialogue lets go
drowsy linden
dont worry i still have an early escape
covert hare
Is it just me or does a run feel longer that in actually is
opaque fable
I didn't know Achilles even existed in this game for a while so i had to cycle through all his dialogue till he talked about guan yu
opaque fable
Is it just me or does a run feel longer that in actually is
Igt is noy rt
mint coral
Someone here went like 200 runs w/o hidden fists dialogue I think
covert hare
Is it just me or does a run feel longer that in actually is
Like I feel I been playing for an hour this run, and turns out it was actually just 17 minutes
mint coral
Game pauses in game timer a lot
opaque fable
Timer pauses during choice selection and story rooms
drowsy linden
average td3 player getting td2 time
opaque fable
Also pauses after boss fights to let you talk to supportive shade
mint coral
I didn't know Achilles even existed in this game for a while so i had to cycle t...
That's funny ngl
covert hare
Also pauses after boss fights to let you talk to supportive shade
I always gotta support my biggest fan
mint coral
Oops, ping
covert hare
mint coral
I think the only character I missed the first time was the broker
Took me so long to notice them lmfao
covert hare
I didn't know Achilles even existed in this game for a while so i had to cycle t...
So you just ran straight to another run?
opaque fable
I only really explored the lobby and main hall
Than also has like 20 hours of dialogue i need to get through too
mint coral
Does that mean you also didn't get the codex for a while?
opaque fable
Yeah
mint coral
When you finally beat heat 10 but you didn't screenshot
Take a sc in the admin chamber
earnest vine
Take a sc in the admin chamber
Oh ok
opaque fable
Had to rely on google for duo boon reqs
earnest vine
Thank god
earnest vine
It sometimes requires a specific boon, like the Zeus Demeter one
mint coral
ME/DR can be annoying
covert hare
What’s the hardest legendary boon to get, for me it’s Hermès second one
drowsy linden
hermes ones, then arty
opaque fable
Pos leg for me
mint coral
Hermes or chaos
drowsy linden
oh yeah chaos
earnest vine
I genuinely think I've only gotten a single legendary ever
covert hare
Pos leg for me
Took me a while
opaque fable
I've not seen pos leg yet i think
drowsy linden
i find hidden aspects to be the hardest legendaries to get
opaque fable
I've seen bad news thrice
mint coral
But yeah hermes is painf to get
opaque fable
And extra dd thrice
mint coral
You either plume to have 2-3 chances at it or do it the normal way and only have 1-2 chances
opaque fable
Is greater recall rarer than bad news
mint coral
And don't forget the lower base rarity
Nah
Same 1% for both
Greater just has 1 more pre requisite as an option
opaque fable
Hm
mint coral
Well ig is rarer if you don't use infernal lmao
mint coral
But yeah hermes is painf to get
Chaos is also annoying cuz cooldown between gates
- rarity buffs don't work on the legendary
rose roost
i mean chaos made everything
so it's prolly not even a comparision who's more powerful lol
covert hare
i mean chaos made everything
Chaos is ssg personification
opaque fable
super saiyan games
rustic vale
It sometimes requires a specific boon, like the Zeus Demeter one
Zeus demeter is an outlier
rustic vale
What’s the hardest legendary boon to get, for me it’s Hermès second one
Hermes or Chaos
They both have nerfed odds to start
rustic vale
Zeus demeter is an outlier
This is like the only one aside from cast specific that needs 1 specific boon from a god, and it happens to be something other then a zeus core
earnest vine
Didn't know that
Also I probably never get multiple chaos boons because I leave rooms so quick and accidentally miss them
rustic vale
Also I probably never get multiple chaos boons because I leave rooms so quick an...
tbh
slow down a bit then
Because a chaos room will save you more time
earnest vine
Oh it absolutely will
rustic vale
Then getting to the door sooner
opaque fable
simply notice the chaos gate before hand
earnest vine
I click too fast
I will literally see the gate
And click anyways
Because I don't register in my head "I should go there"
Until it's too late
opaque fable
this trippy flare build is surprisingly going better than expected
and by surprisingly i mean "hit dio leg in tart with +1 cast"
finally hit mirage in styx
win angle
nope i'm awful at this game
see i would've won if i didn't tank 3 spins in a row with boiling blood
steep condor
Because I don't register in my head "I should go there"
you should always use every chaos gate so you hear zag say things like "hit me" and "i can take it"
hexed umbra
Tiny Vermin just ended my goddamned run.
latent moon
happens
covert hare
you should always use every chaos gate so you hear zag say things like "hit me" ...
It’s always funny when Zagreus says something like
“ oh this looks pretty chill “
“ OH HEAVENS “
steep condor
all the zagreus comments are great, i hope melinoë is going to be as fun
but the chaos gate entering dialog is, um, special
upper wolf
Tiny Vermin just ended my goddamned run.
jagged hamlet
I love this rat so much
supple quest
I FINALLY BEAT HADES
YUS
fought tooth and mf nail
costed all my 3 revives + skelly's tooth
void vigil
gratz 🥳
stone rune
gg
supple quest
fought tooth and mf nail
costed all my 3 revives + skelly's tooth
or should i say
blood and darkness
void vigil
tooth and b&d nail
supple quest
I FINALLY BEAT HADES
YUS
also this could be taken spoiler free lol
i totally beat the game and not my father who is definitely not the final boss
and now i am rewarded with the story
void vigil
i remember when that update dropped everyone thought it would be cerb 
jagged hamlet
Congrats, you singularity!
supple quest
lol, thanks
oh god, it doesn't end
well, it couldn't, but still
oh god.
there is truly no escape
silk stone
does tisiphone ever manage to call zagreus, zagreus? instead of her usual murderer thingy
upper wolf
||yes||
rapid zinc
does anyone have the file with all the dmg drop offs for boons to check what the optimal level is per boon? tried to find it under pinned/google no success
stiff obsidian
how do i get a perfect catch i have been trying for hours
my reaction time does not get faster than this
supple quest
Do we ever get to know what exactly prevents Zag from staying out of the Underworld? Hades's power? The realm itself? The literal Fates?
And is it something that i'll just know about as I keep playing?
strong flame
damn i was ready to smash my excalibur into hades ass and he just lets me pass without a fight
i'm sad now
earnest vine
||Is it only me who didn't realize that Aphrodite just isn't wearing anything??||
strong flame
||Is it only me who didn't realize that Aphrodite just **isn't wearing anything?...
well i realized it when i picked up her boon for the first time
earnest vine
I simply didn't realize until I saw her in game art online
strong flame
aphrodite shows her love with that 
anyone can help? completed the story rn and i just can't move after the screen ''queen returned'' disappears
already restarted game but can't move still
olive mantle
Oh maybe I missed a door then
mint coral
What chamber is this
steep condor
||Is it only me who didn't realize that Aphrodite just **isn't wearing anything?...
couldn't have happened to me but it makes sense you wouldn't immediately notice since a lot is hidden by her hair and you were probably reading the text rather than looking at the picture
steep condor
Do we ever get to know what exactly prevents Zag from staying out of the Underwo...
it's never spelled out exactly i think but it's implied to be a thing with being tied to the underworld. he also isn't the only one this applies to
opaque fable
cthnoic gods by nature are bound to the underworld
that's why none of them just bother leaving
zagreus inherited this curse from hades
supple quest
how do i get a perfect catch i have been trying for hours
i might be misremembering but i haven't seen the regular "catch" text once lol
upper wolf
yeah it depends on timing
opaque fable
ive resigned myself to never hitting perfect catch
upper wolf
I think it's perfect catch if you do it in 1/3rd of a second, and normal if you do it between 1/3rd and 2/3rd
opaque fable
i hit it once on accident
stiff obsidian
I think it's perfect catch if you do it in 1/3rd of a second, and normal if you ...
this is too hard
supple quest
also how do you get the hades role? or image perms
opaque fable
#server-roles for roles and you need to use embeds for images
supple quest
oh, it was hidden
odd
thanks
this is such an unflattering image of zagreus LMAO
can't look stunning when you're about to die i guess
ah yes natural causes, the leading cause of death of all humans
opaque fable
zag dies when he touches grass will always be the best part about hadesgame lore
supple quest
he can't even, his feet'll burn the grass first lol
zealous steeple
just finished the champions at 2hp lol
upper wolf
Zag is a true gamer
supple quest
say, the gods can't hear zag but they can receive his gifts
that makes them far more distant now
i didn't think much about that
opaque fable
they're just really really desperate for a family member they don't have 30 kilotons of baggage with
covert hare
zag dies when he touches grass will always be the best part about hadesgame lore
Don’t forget he falling because of a banana peel
opaque fable
there's also getting raked
and literally dying of boredom
and "it was all a dream"
... the narrator is a rather unreliable source
nocturne kelp
Don’t forget he falling because of a banana peel
Or when he trespasses a farm
covert hare
Wait that happened?
upper wolf
according to the narrator
covert hare
opaque fable
literally roadrunner cartoon
mint coral
Also death by a a goat
covert hare
Zagreus thinking a bear and a snake would be friendly
mint coral
Or bc someone asked him to jump into the totally not shady hole
covert hare
Deaths so lame hipnos just gives generic dialogue
empty mirage
if you keep a keepsake between floors will the god show up first in the next floor?
like if i started with poseidon will he show up first in tartarus and elysium too?
void vigil
no, but the rarity boost will stay
covert hare
no, but the rarity boost will stay
What
mint coral
God keepsakes force a boon and increase the rarity for boons of that god
covert hare
So I can permanently increased the rarity of the boons of 4 Gods in a run?
upper wolf
no
mint coral
The boost is gone if you unequip it
upper wolf
what they meant is that keeping the keepsake will keep the rarity
but not the guaranteed boon
stiff obsidian
how does the surface fish rarity work again?
is it the same as the other biomes or is it higher since u only get 1 chamber to fish
mint coral
50/50 depending on the tye of catch as always
mint coral
Ah, odds?
That idk
Just know that if you get a fish where cerb is right before you deliver the sack you are screwed
Cuz fishing cooldown
stiff obsidian
whats the cooldown?
1 chamber?
this thing is so elusive
and i have a lower perfect catch rate than clear rate
which says a lot
covert hare
mint coral
Bleh couldn't find the data
What I did find was the requirement for the huge catch forced event to appear 
Fishing rod is not enough
Need poseidon to mention it and catch 3 fish
stiff obsidian
Oh
opaque fable
you're really telling me that i missed the regular pos legendary cuz i fished too much?
my prophecy 
covert hare
you're really telling me that i missed the regular pos legendary cuz i fished to...
Same
mint coral
That's just for the scripted event where pos gives you huge cath c1
After that you can only get it through its pre requisites
sour fog
Just know that if you get a fish where cerb is right before you deliver the sack...
https://hades.fandom.com/wiki/Fishing it says here that entering zone resets the cooldown tho
not sure if I understand the sentence on the wiki right
mint coral
Huh
opaque fable
That's just for the scripted event where pos gives you huge cath c1
no i hit huge catch again 
mint coral
For dad arena I don't think it works tho
opaque fable
thanks poseidon very cool
mint coral
Is technically not greece ig
sour fog
is it not?
mint coral
Not sure
stiff obsidian
It is right?
mint coral
My thought process is I don't think entering the arena fills up the greece codex entry
sour fog
It looks like you might be right
After the main story is completed and Persephone decides to return to the House of Hades, Greece becomes inaccessible; the fishing points are moved to the Hades battle arena.
when checking the Greece biome page
mint coral
Prob better to ask someone in the speedcord lmao
sour fog
so Hades still counts as Styx looks like
mint coral
no i hit huge catch again <:kekw:679152556970344448>
Stop taking ocean's bounty and sunken treasure then
sour fog
Huge catch afaik removes the chamber count requirement though
mint coral
It does?
olive mantle
Do I get anything for beating heats higher than the gauge limit?
stiff obsidian
Prob better to ask someone in the speedcord lmao
Probably
mint coral
Bragging rights
opaque fable
cool number on your score cards that say your highest heat
stiff obsidian
Real
sour fog
Fish Spawn Chance: +20%
This boon also removes the Chambers Since Last Fishing Point spawn requirement.
Your first encounter with this boon will be scripted to appear in the first chamber as the only choice, ignoring prerequisites. This happens only once.
from poseidon page
so theoretically you can get fish points in two chambers right after another if you have huge catch
olive mantle
cool number on your score cards that say your highest heat
Thats all?
sour fog
you get skelly statue for 32 heat
opaque fable
how do you even unlock dialogue for skelly's statues?
sour fog
dunno honestly, I think at some point he just brings them
someone said that you can even beat the requirements before the statues show up I think
opaque fable
considering i've cleared 32 heat and like over 60 dad kills and haven't even seen any dialogue mentioning secret skelly statue i've given up
stiff obsidian
do 40
mint coral
"not sure about cooldown removal, i think it changes between biomes at least, and the rooms between biomes without fishing spots probably do a lot to help ease it
yes huge catch removes the cooldown, flat 20% per chamber" - from Cgull
Never knew that about huge catch lol
stiff obsidian
i mean it makes sense
sour fog
for me chaos fish was most painful, they just wouldn't spawn 9 times out of 10
and then when I almost had codex done I needed Mati and kept getting the jelly
mint coral
Getting huge catch in tart with any pos starting sounds not bad
You already have one pre req anyways
steep condor
for fishing, i've started to put my face right in front of my switch to reduce the time the light takes to travel to my eyes
i feel like it helps, ok
opaque fable
this is deranged
stone rune
for fishing, i've started to put my face right in front of my switch to reduce t...
just cover the bob with ur thumb
and press e when u see a change
rustic vale
Use audio
stiff obsidian
fine
stone rune
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1088591737309638746/1194326804920549446/S...
idk man it works for me
latent moon
what if you did high heat but with fo1 instead of fo2
lavish sorrel
fresh file has FO0, should be easy 
stiff obsidian
opaque fable
to compensate you have ri4
stiff obsidian
i nned a fresh file hades savestate
lavish sorrel
i nned a fresh file hades savestate
can be found in the speedcord's ff channel pins
covert hare
So hard mode is locked out forever if you didn’t choosed when making a file ?
lavish sorrel
can be toggled using the speedrun modpack, otherwise yeah you're locked out of / into it
upper wolf
you'll need mods to switch a file from no hell mode to hell mode
upper wolf
tbh you shouldn't worry about max heat at all lol
opaque fable
free heat!!!
lavish sorrel
(me when mysterra beats 63 normal mode with every special once 
)
and refuses to enable hell mode
upper wolf
based..?
covert hare
tbh you shouldn't worry about max heat at all lol
Eventually if I want 100%
rose roost
the highest heat achievement is 16
upper wolf
max heat is not intended to be beaten
rose roost
so not really
covert hare
<:zaglol:725043931867512903>
Don’t laugh at me 
upper wolf
sorry
covert hare
the highest heat achievement is 16
The second trophy
rose roost
the trophy u get for 32 heat is not a steam achievement
rose roost
ig
latent moon
if you want 16 or 32 heat you dont need hell mode
and tbh hell made just makes it harder
since you're forced to take cp1
with js1 too
hell mode is generally only seen as necessary at like 45 heat
at least
formal citrus
hell mode is generally only seen as necessary at like 45 heat
Looking like it's about time for me to switch over, but I don't even have all the badges yet
covert hare
And Skelly's a pretty cool lad
Fair enough
I would do anything for the characters
“ Max heat on hell mode and the reward is making father smile “
Done
desert tundra
it's why i did a no boon run despite having no real achievement for them
the extra dialogue is so worth
Hades is such a good game I find myself doing every extra little thing cause I just like the game that much compared to anything else
steep condor
and tbh hell made just makes it harder
isn't that the point👀
rustic vale
I mean 32 heat is like fine enough by itself 
hellmode just forces you to take worse heat options
steep condor
are you telling me i've been doing this for nothing
lavish sorrel
I mean 32 heat is like fine enough by itself <:zagpls:1012805274261799032>
tbh I'd call 32 "not free" already, yeah 
even on meta aspects it takes a bit of practice before being able to beat it like that
lavish sorrel
are you telling me i've been doing this for nothing<:zagcry:1012805268519780352>
if you want to climb to 45 or 50, no it wasn't for nothing
stone rune
even on meta aspects it takes a bit of practice before being able to beat it lik...
not rlly
if u hand anyone hestia and a decent pact i guarantee they get a 32 clear within 5 attempts
lavish sorrel
but hestia is so free
I died on my first anyheat hestia run
how the heck do you expect past me to do 32 heat like that
stone rune
idk man
stiff obsidian
not even close
next sage
hestia was very hard to use for me
The gun for me is the hardest to use.
stiff obsidian
The gun for me is the hardest to use.
if ur on kbm just turn off aim at mouse
stone rune
iirc i didnt know how to set first hammer
stiff obsidian
and it becomes the easiest
lavish sorrel
The gun for me is the hardest to use.
relatable except rail is in second-to-hardest for me
stiff obsidian
the no brain gameplay is why eris is my favorite aspect
stone rune
relatable except rail is in second-to-hardest for me
arent u kbm
lavish sorrel
I am kbm yes
stone rune
bow widecharon3
stiff obsidian
kbm player best at sword and 2nd worst at rail 
next sage
if ur on kbm just turn off aim at mouse
Nah, I'm on Switch.
lavish sorrel
my worst is everything else
(she says with 50 
clears on stuff other than beo too)
stiff obsidian
ah
stone rune
i mean 50 modded is free af
rustic vale
tbh I'd call 32 "not free" already, yeah <:dusa:672829221714001947>
I said “fine” not “free”
stiff obsidian
i mean 50 modded is free af
sure
lavish sorrel
i mean 50 modded is free af
I think you're underestimating how good you are at the game, I'll be honest
lavish sorrel
you definitely have the skill to
lavish sorrel
do you have ID
stiff obsidian
no
stiff obsidian
but c12 skip 😩
lavish sorrel
why do people play modded other than for hammers and styx
lavish sorrel
just don't AP2 
stiff obsidian
em4 
lavish sorrel
lavish sorrel
stiff obsidian
dashes over rd?
latent moon
Rarity?
stiff obsidian
all the good seeds are wasted on me
latent moon
You'll have to ask speed cord for more specifics tho imo
latent moon
all the good seeds are wasted on me
Mood
latent moon
I mean if you get bad enemies you can't do anything about that
stiff obsidian
going to play dead cells anything i should keep in mind?
lavish sorrel
not to my knowledge
"focus everything onto one scroll color for damage" but that should seem obvious to someone who's speedrun hades
stiff obsidian
so everything should be self learnable?
nothing untold like dashstrikes dont have iframes in hades
lavish sorrel
don't think so nah
stiff obsidian
ok thakns
lavish sorrel
most one could tell you is by what rules the biomes generate
lavish sorrel
oh also keep in mind, basically everything can be parried using shields in dead cells, and landing a successful parry recharges the ability to parry
stiff obsidian
ok nice
latent moon
Honestly with your hades experience you should be able to do decently well at dead cells
At least at the start
I've been getting my ass beat but the earlier difficulties are pretty easy lmao
stiff obsidian
latent moon
Your reaction speed is probably better than mine considering your hades hours and how much high heat you do lmao
You'll be fine
rustic vale
going to play dead cells anything i should keep in mind?
Kill things
desert tundra
is Eurydice's boon rarity upgrade bugged with Strong Drink
the bonus dmg stayed at 3% 
mint coral
That's a new one
mint coral
That's a new one
So it is epic rarity but still at 3%?
desert tundra
Nope false alarm, just the tooltip is bugged
used a fountain and it gave me 4% now
latent moon
the bonus dmg stayed at 3% <:Sadge:929546342752206848>
that's because you got a fountain when it only gave 3% at first
it wont modify your previous bonus but it'll change the future ones
sour fog
the boon in the boon list shows total
so if you had 3% and then got 4% at another fountain it should show 7%
stone rune
4 hammer starts in a row
0 cshots in a row
5 now
i dont get how this exists
who p[lays this category
latent moon
unmodded moment
stone rune
i haet this game bro
how do you fit so many witches in 1 room
when i finally get cshot
would have gotten barge and than anywaysd
latent moon
unmodded moment
lavish sorrel
who p[lays this category
I would usually jump in and say "me 
" but that isn't even true anymore
latent moon
my last 3 unmodded runs i got the hammer i wanted so skill issue imo
stone rune
grue
latent moon
2 double edge and 1 breaching cross
i still lost the runs with dedge because i suck with sword but i rng-ed in ME on fists so that was neat
my lightning strike got vorimed
stone rune
this is an actually unplayable game state
latent moon
modded brainrot
lavish sorrel
modded brainrot
stone rune
how do you have fun
latent moon
oh rta
latent moon
i think this is more of an unmodded problem than rta lmao
stone rune
i cant even get a sub3 tart bro
stone rune
and ff sux
latent moon
get a top 10 fresh file time too while you're at it
"fresh file but i mod the game such that i have every olympian god, beowulf, and cshot"
stone rune
fresh file but i make it good by using a maxed save
latent moon
fresh file of the max save
lavish sorrel
"fresh file but i mod the game such that i have every olympian god, beowulf, and...
That file sounds rotten to me
stone rune
for the past 5runs ive had to instantly reset after c1
i literally just wanta sub13 it cant be that hard
opaque fable
"fresh file but i mod the game such that i have every olympian god, beowulf, and...
Call it slightly stale file
stone rune
lavish sorrel
Damage reduction that gets higher the more you lose
drowsy linden
20%, +5% per death, up to 80% iirc
jagged hamlet
I've never used God Mode, but I have beaten the game
orchid raft
Me neither, felt like a cheat code out of an amazing game
drowsy linden
i didnt even know about god mode until i got really late into the game
mint coral
20%, +5% per death, up to 80% iirc
2% per death
jagged hamlet
5% would be crazy
mint coral
I've used god mode to test it once, turned it off
then turned it on again for gy's prophecy lmao
orchid raft
God mode just sounds like what modders do to games to make up for their poor skill
opaque fable
same here
rustic vale
And tbh you don’t really learn how to dodge enemies with godmode on
opaque fable
easy mode in games that reward mastery just teaches you bad habits most of the time
feels like you just luck into wins
mint coral
like most players don't win like that anyways
opaque fable
i mean sure
mint coral
god mode is chill for anyone who wants the story
stone rune
God mode just sounds like what modders do to games to make up for their poor ski...
Hmmmmmmmm
orchid raft
Hmmmmmmmm
It's exactly what i said, additionally you don't feel like you accomplished something when you win, you don't get to experience the game as intended
orchid raft
it’s an accessibility feature
Exactly
rustic vale
I just personally wouldn’t use it
stone rune
u dont need to posture about being good at the game
orchid raft
I just personally wouldn’t use it
Same here
stone rune
i love easy modes in games
it lets u experience the game in a more chill manner or just turn it down if its too hard
latent moon
It's exactly what i said, additionally you don't feel like you accomplished some...
you don't feel like you accomplished something when you win
i dont think your opinion on that speaks for everyone who used god mode lmao
orchid raft
u dont need to posture about being good at the game
I'm not tryna flex or encourage the git gud mindset im just saying what i think the intent of the game is supposed to be like
stone rune
yeah the devs intent was to put a god mode in the game
so they did
god mode is an intended experience
orchid raft
> you don't feel like you accomplished something when you win
i dont think your ...
What you honestly think i touched it?
latent moon
i dont think i said that or implied that
drowsy linden
then turned it on again for gy's prophecy lmao
i just had a garbage run to dad, and found out it was the free pass
rustic vale
godmode is in the game because the devs intended for everyone to be able to experience Hades
latent moon
the feeling of accomplishment isn't an objective matter, and even if players do use god mode, when they clear they can still feel the same sense of accomplishment
orchid raft
I have no rebuttal and i don't need to i said all that's needed to be said.
I have to go for now
stone rune
hades isnt just a game about beating the final boss
the story element is a large part of why a lot of players play
latent moon
also imo the game's intent is to tell a good story while having good replayable gameplay to go along with it so that you can keep playing after you finish the story
jagged hamlet
hecc we had a legally blind person here who I think finished the game
drowsy linden
im here for the infinite amounts of dialogue
latent moon
not to just be able to clear
rustic vale
hecc we had a legally blind person here who I think finished the game
Multiple
stone rune
theres a blind mod
jagged hamlet
Oh hecc I don't think we ever told our last blind friend about that mod
graceful cedar
I am legally blind but thank god the glasses fix it
When I lose them, oh boy, a 6th sense has to be developed just to find them back xD
drowsy linden
just have magnets🧠
graceful cedar
I don't know how my other brothers do it, too crazy
lavish sorrel
That's almost insulting. Different people play games for different reasons (not everyone wants to or has the physical ability to play the game at a top level), and experiencing Hades as a movie is just as intended as any other feature. If it wasn't intended the option for god mode wouldn't be in the game.
latent moon
hades was also the first ever roguelike for a lot of players
lavish sorrel
So yeah use godmode if you wish!
But feel free to turn it off if / once you feel comfortable without it
opaque fable
Solution is, as always, to go normal and see if you like it
If you don't go godmode
covert hare
Is there a speedrun category for god mode?
Since people can beat the game pretty fast, what if they are almost invincible lol
lavish sorrel
Is there a speedrun category for god mode?
Nope
In beowulf anyheat, death isn't real
You will just not die if the build is good
Actually scratch that, that's true for most aspects in anyheat
opaque fable
Don't people instant kill everything anyways
lavish sorrel
Death is not real
mint coral
at most you get lernie taxed
gentle venture
i honestly find a LOT of trouble with beo to be honest but maybe thats cuz im a bit picky about the casts
gentle venture
Does anybody know any official date for when Hades comes to netflix gaming? Or is it just 2024 without specifics
covert hare
Since Beowulf has the charge bloodstones thing, does that mean the best cast is Aphrodite ?
Like with Hera bow
mint coral
Why
mirage shot is bugged on flares (what beo uses) and the 2nd cast does 100% dmg
instead of 30%
pos cast is already half of mirage, has big AoE (even goes through walls) and decent pom scaling
aphro is mainly used for heat once "just get mirage" isn't an option
higher base dmg, pair with snow burst for easy priv status
drowsy linden
also, it barely knocks enemies back
latent moon
at most you get lernie taxed
Achilles can be a death sentence sometimes
Also taking funny chaos curses can eat your hp lmao
But yeah those 3 are like the big "I might die" moments in speedruns
icy kraken
My mates and my brother have recently all gotten hades and I’m so jealous they can enjoy it from the beginning
Literally all loving the game and with hades 2 round the corner, they’re being spoilt
covert hare
well
i finally got all the dual boons
now the only thing left is my biggest enemy
hermes stygian blood legendary boon
covert hare
hermes stygian blood legendary boon
if anyone knows good way to get this one im listening
drowsy linden
if anyone knows good way to get this one im listening
"speedrun modpack"
mint coral
Use his keepsake
covert hare
"speedrun modpack"
nuh uh
i dont like using mods ( im scared of touching or altering anything in the files of a game )
latent moon
i think beowulf would have the highest odds of getting bad news
on stygian ofc
wait nvm
it'd be the same lmao
yeah just get good rng
use plume
legacy
yarn
covert hare
i think beowulf would have the highest odds of getting bad news
why did you thought that lol
isnt stygian on beowulf a bad idea anyways?
like using stygian on hera bow
drowsy linden
why did you thought that lol
dio beo
latent moon
why did you thought that lol
infernal beo removes 2 hermes boons out of the pool
so i thought just use beo and get rid of a hermes boon for better odds
then i remembered that it doesnt work for stygian lmao
covert hare
then i remembered that it doesnt work for stygian lmao
so the only way to increase your odds is chaos?
and euridice juice
covert hare
i was so mad because in a run i got a chaos better boons
got 2 boons from hermes
and a third one in styx temple
when i bought it hermes made a dialogue
and i was hyped as hell becuase
why would he say something if it wasnt because he was about to give me something legendary?
yeah he didnt gave me anything
minor rapids
Man. I been re-hyperfixating on Hades and I'm gonna blame it on Percy Jackson having gotten a show now
drowsy linden
why would he say something if it wasnt because he was about to give me something...
theres generic dialogue for shops and sacks
covert hare
theres generic dialogue for shops and sacks
yeah i remembered that after
and i was still mad
steep condor
Man. I been re-hyperfixating on Hades and I'm gonna blame it on Percy Jackson ha...
have also been re-hyperfixating on hades and i blame the devs for making a very good game
it's just. easy to hyperfixate on. because it's fast and challenging and emotional
covert hare
Lovely characters
steep condor
i saw that ppl were discussing wether god mode is valid before. it all seems pretty arbitrary amyway, because yesterday people said "hell mode is unnecessarily hard for low heat" but a couple hours later god mode is supposed to be "too easy to feel accomplished"
latent moon
well it's more like
with hell mode you're not missing out on anything
and iirc the person who said that said something about needing/wanting it for 16 and/or 32 heat
both of which hell mode isn't necessary for
the argument the guy was making about god mode was like elitist lmao
mint coral
And fwiw, I don't think anyone who said the first thing said smth about god mode lol
steep condor
thought i was the (some of the) same people but i'm new here so may be misremembering
latent moon
i was there for both, some others might've been too
but different people brought up the argument for hell/god mode
steep condor
the argument the guy was making about god mode was like elitist lmao
yeah, totally. i guess j just interpreted both as "this is how you are (not) supposed to play"
latent moon
yeah the thing with hell mode wasn't really a big deal, the thing with god mode was just a bruh moment lmao
covert hare
and iirc the person who said that said something about needing/wanting it for 16...
Not talking about when I asked is hell mode was mandatory for 100% right?
rustic vale
yeah, totally. i guess j just interpreted both as "this is how you are (not) sup...
It’s “hell mode isn’t necessary to do 16/32 heat, and it’s actually worse than without” and “God mode is an accessibility feature, so it’s part of the intended way for the game to be played”
They don’t conflict
steep condor
the thing earlier with the god mode
yes, i also didn't mean to say the hell mode thing was elitist
steep condor
It’s “hell mode isn’t necessary to do 16/32 heat, and it’s actually worse than w...
i was comparing "don't do hell mode for 16 / 32 heat" and "god mode is not the intended way to enjoy the game"
tepid light
if it is an option in the game, then it is by definition an 'intended' method of playing, no?
steep condor
it's really not that big a deal though and i have to get ready for work now😬 bye?
tepid light
curious to know who was making that argument though
rustic vale
if it is an option in the game, then it is by definition an 'intended' method of...
I mean
burning koroks on stakes in totk is an option
so I think that’s a bit too broad
latent moon
lmfao
tepid light
burning koroks on stakes in totk is an option
burning koroks at the stake is not a modifier to the game as a whole that you can just toggle on/off with a click
but yes perhaps I could be more specific
covert hare
burning koroks on stakes in totk is an option
Torture devices on bokoblins
rustic vale
curious to know who *was* making that argument though
Eh I wouldn’t dwell on it
Can’t see that info being used for anything wholesome
steep condor
burning koroks on stakes in totk is an option
(i mean they did make the game so you could do anything and basically gave their blessings to korok torture devices in an interview iirc)
rustic vale
Blessing it and intending it are 2 seperate things
latent moon
to be fair they had to have seen that coming lmao
rustic vale
I’d assume and hope it was more of a “well the people are going to do what they’re going to do” rather than on “they should be able to do this”
latent moon
fair enough
golden mica
steep condor
since we were already talking about zelda, one thing (wild games) link and zagreus share is being... not tall. i think zagreus isn't actually short, it's just that all the other gods and enemies are super tall and big.
is this a game design thing? making npcs bigger than the player character so it's easier to notice and hit or dodge them?
opaque fable
kinda?
side by side, i think thesus and zag rather equal in height
smaller pcs convey agility
upper wolf
true, true
keen wren
Hey y'all I just wanted to show my love for the game, I bought it back when it was only on epic game store and Elysium wasn't in it yet, played a lot, and then I forgot about it up until full release, then I finished only the main story. Recently I bought it again on steam so I can play on steam deck and boy oh boy have I missed some cool content. I think Hades is one of my, if not my favourite game of all time, after 1500+ hours on binding of Isaac I can't stop trying to escape Hell over and over again.
true oak
Hey y'all I just wanted to show my love for the game, I bought it back when it w...
me too, bro
me too
covert hare
Hades x fortnite when
void vigil
i will download and play fortnite if it happens
covert hare
i will download and play fortnite if it happens
“ Zagreus what are you doing “
“ I’m hitting the griddy father “
tepid light
i mean with the wacky crossovers fortnite has already had as of the present
i guess a hades crossover really isn't that unimaginable
covert hare
Even among us got a collab
tepid light
i mean among us is unsurprising given the sheer viral popularity that game had at one point
covert hare
i mean among us is unsurprising given the sheer viral popularity that game had a...
Yeah but considering it is a small game
tepid light
Yeah but considering it is a small game
my point still stands
i'm just waiting for the LoL x Fortnite crossover
covert hare
Hades x fortnite when
Zagreus and meg skin 🙏🏻
covert hare
i'm just waiting for the LoL x Fortnite crossover
Dude that already happened
tepid light
oh right, the Arcane crossover
I somehow forgot that happened
Ok but gimme my Garen Fortnite skin
covert hare
Zagreus and meg skin 🙏🏻
And dusa as a backpack
steep condor
when i'm bored i drum with my fingers. just did that while playing, accidentally hit a button and wasted a companion summon in tartarus while waiting for enemies to appear🥲
upper wolf
it's an intimidation tactic, dw
lavish sorrel
opaque fable
controller moment?
lavish sorrel
TRUE kbm supremacy
opaque fable
people say bow is better on controller but i don't see it
dash strike backwards while aiming forwards feels like a myth
steep condor
i can't even imagine playing on keyboard, controller feels natural when that's what you learn the game on
(though i haven't played anything on keyboard in years, so...)
opaque fable
tbh i'm opposite
probably because i didn't own a console that used the standard controller for most my life
first one was the switch
first and only one
latent moon
the nice part about hades is that both kbm and controller both perform really well
they both have their advnatages and disadvantages but they're not like a big deal lmao
the only like trend of kbm being better than controller is like 64 heat clears lmao
steep condor
ie one person did it on kbm and zero people did it on controller?
opaque fable
did the chinese guy do it on kbm as well?
latent moon
ie one person did it on kbm and zero people did it on controller?
there's been 2 unmodded clears, both kbm
another player did it modded and is also kbm
latent moon
did the chinese guy do it on kbm as well?
yes
in his video you can see the keyboard button thingy lmao
idrk if the people attempting it modded atm are kbm or not actually
but bai and mysterra are the best zeus players in the world and they use kbm lmao
opaque fable
maybe zeus is just easier to use on kbm 
lavish sorrel
the thing is with kbm is that aiming is a pain in the ass
wdym just put cursor on the enemy and win
I suck at that job but I'd be worse on controller, believe you me
latent moon
the 62 modded rama was controller
the 62 unmodded was also controller
therefore bow is better on controller
latent moon
I suck at that job but I'd be worse on controller, believe you me
ngl i found aiming a lot easier on controller than kbm lmao
lavish sorrel
~~therefore bow is better on controller~~
honestly yeah I think I could agree for bow
latent moon
on switch it was really easy, ps5 controller a bit harder since the buttons are farther away
i still can't use hera on it tho since i cant find a good button to put the cast on that wont feel weird
lavish sorrel
I should ask nitro what he uses for hera
apparently he uses a "bumper"
I don't use controllers so I don't know what that means
latent moon
it's the button above the trigger
lavish sorrel
latent moon
that didnt help did it lmao
lavish sorrel
it does
latent moon
oh good lmao
lavish sorrel
oh good lmao
(I just about know that at the top of the controller there are two sets of buttons, one the button, the other the trigger. they also usually have 2 dpads and 2 joysticks. that's about all I know)
so telling me bumper = button definitely helped
opaque fable
maybe i'm weird but i didn't find bow to be very fun to use on controller
maybe it's just cuz i'm not used to the control scheme
maybe i just spam like mid-low heat runs until i get practiced
latent moon
Is your thumb over the dash and attack button so you can roll it over?
main glen
winter plaza
Is your thumb over the dash and attack button so you can roll it over?
i put my index on attack and thumb on dash
kind of weird
rustic vale
i put my index on attack and thumb on dash
what the
You’re talking about controller?
strong ridge
claw gamer
winter plaza
You’re talking about controller?
yeah
i used to play a lot of fighting games so claw became customary to me
rustic vale
I literally just have my thumb on dash and it rolls up to attack
strong ridge
be well claire the first claw gamer i have known
rustic vale
Smooth and simple
winter plaza
i occasionally do that when my hands hurt
winter plaza
be well claire the first claw gamer i have known
claw is supreme
i will have arthritis by 30
strong ridge
not in the comfort category
rustic vale
I can’t imagine bow dstrikes being comfy
covert hare
Congrats to hades for being put in the “ indispensable games “ on the Nintendo switch shop
winter plaza
I can’t imagine bow dstrikes being comfy
you get used to it
strong ridge
un should buy everyone on earf hades
winter plaza
what breaks my fingers most times and what causes my switch to standard thumb over both buttons is sword
bow is fine though
as are the other weapons
rustic vale
what breaks my fingers most times and what causes my switch to standard thumb ov...
I can’t see how fists would be any different
winter plaza
I can’t see how fists would be any different
just hold and dash when necessary
mint coral
where does than drop reward here again
I'm assuming here but just double checking
also I mis clicked and missed mirage lmao
latent moon
amazing
i think it's uh
on the right island
in the middle?
i think this room depends on the gold plate thingies at the entrance but idk
mint coral
nah I guessed right
latent moon
very nice
mint coral
but resetting cuz also no rd and shame
mint coral
the worst part about mirage was the greedy rolling lol
covert hare
ah crap
i maxed all the keepsakes
now i have to actually think which one to use
instead of
" ill use whichever is not maxed yet "
drowsy linden
god/purse->god/tooth->god/tooth/acorn/hourglass(this one is build dependent)->acorn