h1-discussion

[rustic pelican]

I always have v-sync off anyways

it creates noticeable input delay

[granite ether]

Ye plenty of games hard cap frame rates for whatever reason

[rustic pelican]

any ideas on why vulkan just stops my wireless controller from working on my desktop computer?

I don't have that issue on my steamdeck

(albeit a different controller)

[lavish sorrel]

I play the game at 15 regularly because bad hardware, I agree it actually feels somewhat comfy

I do need to say that it only feels like a slideshow if the framerate is dropped through occasional but sudden lagspikes as opposed to generally low framerate with normally distributed frames.

[stiff obsidian]

15 fps?

[lavish sorrel]

Yes

[stiff obsidian]

wow

🫡

[lavish sorrel]

[tardy aurora]

whats the highest lv boon you can have before hades

[mint hatch]

As in if there's a hardcoded limit or what's the highest level that's been reached by someone so far?

[tardy aurora]

if you got a really high amount of poms, and dumped into 1 boon

[mint hatch]

Idk that would depend on how many bits are used to represent a boon's level

But realistically even if every room was a pom you still wouldn't reach that limit

[tardy aurora]

not the limit but how high u can go

[opaque fable]

is there any way to manipulate seeing more chaos boons other than by buying the thing from charon's well

[tardy aurora]

like whats the damage peak with 1 weapon, 1 boon

[tardy aurora]

tried keepsake?

[opaque fable]

doesn't it only make you take less damage while going in?

and more rares

[tardy aurora]

no dmg

and ur right so idk

[opaque fable]

trying to play stygian soul with dem start

[mint hatch]

That's really hard to calculate but someone on reddit said 95 assuming perfect rng so i'll go with that.

Chaos is the reason I steer away from cast builds

[opaque fable]

mirage shot doesn't work with crystal beam right

[mint coral]

It does

[mint hatch]

It does

[opaque fable]

does it just spawn a 2nd crystal with 30% damage

[mint coral]

The only thing it doesn't work is thunder flare (beo) and that's more bc of a dumb reason

[mint coral]

2nd laser iirc?

Been a while

[mint coral]

(the cast itself has 0 cast dmg, it just summons a lightning bolt)

[mint hatch]

Wouldn't that make the second beam deal full damage too?

I remember crystal beam being stupid strong but not that strong

[mint coral]

Like I said I don't remember if it just a 2nd laser (but with reduced dmg) or a 2nd crystal in the same place

[opaque fable]

honestly i'm not playing super seriously rn

[mint coral]

Also crystal beam "good"

[opaque fable]

just memeing around for giga high rolls

forcing crystal clarity

[mint coral]

(as aside, if you want mirage being broken, use beo)

[mint hatch]

Make sure to aim for artemis legendary too

[opaque fable]

yeah i learned yesterday that each stone reloads on its own timer

it doesn't load sequentially

made stygian soul a lot better

[mint coral]

Fully loaded on cast builds is a myth

[opaque fable]

just hit

[mint hatch]

What?

[opaque fable]

level 7 crystal beam out of tartarus

do people not say "hit" when they get what they want?

[mint hatch]

dunno

[mint coral]

Big crystal

[mint hatch]

wdym?

[mint coral]

Joke on how it always shows up on random builds but refuses to appear for cast builds

Specially true on the non lodging casts

Cuz no exit wounds to use as pre requisite

[mint coral]

If you wanna high roll a lot more I hope you get glaciar glare soon

Pomming that is super funny

[mint hatch]

I hate it when you have a lodging cast with stygian soul and you get Bad news from hermes

Greater recall and bad news? Now those are myths

[mint coral]

I've seen bad news a lot more cuz using hermes keepsake also opens the legendary

Greater recall though

[mint hatch]

Even though it has more unlock paths

But I much prefer it since it's not just a number boost

Feels like a legendary

[opaque fable]

wow this is both a real lucky and unlucky run

no chaos for extra casts but i just hit bad news

bad news is just 50% damage for non lodging right

[mint coral]

Is bugged so its 50% global dmg but for the sake of your build yeah

[opaque fable]

this is so scuffed lmao

[mint coral]

Bad charon well luck too I assume?

[opaque fable]

i hit a few cast wells which was nice

[mint coral]

Using hourglass might be the play at this point lmao

[opaque fable]

i see a prometheus stone in elysium exit that might be the play

i always hit fullly loaded dw

[mint coral]

Do you have rerolls left? (Assuming you have the duo already)

[opaque fable]

no rr

[mint coral]

Rolling on wells is fun when possible

[opaque fable]

this is heat 5 so i can probably just beat dad by playing safer anyways

my beams are doing 60 a tick this is so dumb

[opaque fable]

i'm just better

too skilled at this game

got another promethus stone from well too

[last veldt]

Nice. Easy game...

Hourglass in Styx always curses me to get no wells before the sack.

Though I've taken a late attack boost from Patroclus into Dad a few times with it.

[mint coral]

Hourglass doesn't affect patty items?

[stiff obsidian]

it doesnt yea

[opaque fable]

who needs chaos luck when you have well luck

[mint coral]

Even without the charon wells you already hit fully loaded lmao

[opaque fable]

the most recent stone came from fateful twist too

99% of gamblers quit before they win big

[last veldt]

Huh, maybe I misread then. I thought I'd got to Dad with attack boost still in effect.

[opaque fable]

er, does bull rush not refresh itself when you charge with it still active?

[mint coral]

Hm?

[opaque fable]

or is this an interacting with trippy shot

cuz i have 3 stones and when i go to cast my 2nd volley my 2nd and 3rd aren't empowered despite using bull rush between volleys

[lavish sorrel]

"No ruthless reflex"

People abbreviate that to "rolls" since "rr" is already taken

[opaque fable]

alright lets see what em4 is about

surely it will be fine

[mint coral]

Have fun

[opaque fable]

the fact that even going up to 32 heat doesn't even consider this makes me slightly concerned but it's fine

[mint coral]

I'll wait for post fight to explain a bit but yeah, just keep your hp above 0 👍

[opaque fable]

first try lets go

[mint coral]

Gg

The tl;dr for em4 is that it snowballs hard with all your pacts

And well is just considerably harder

And his summons can rekt you hard

[opaque fable]

yea cerberus caught me completely off guard

[mint coral]

Also a massive time sink vs normal dad

[opaque fable]

the fact that he has a healing move was uh

a bit wild

[mint coral]

The healing is fun if you have the dmg to out dps him

[opaque fable]

is there any way to stop him or are you stuck blasting him until he gives up

[mint coral]

For dog the best you can do is go to bottom right corner and pause buffer

[mint coral]

Breaking the urn that has a green beam on top should stop it but I usually just keep doing dmg

[mint coral]

(I think this is only true for fo2 super dad) sometimes he will re appear while cerb is still going on so pause buffer helps this

[opaque fable]

i think i didn't get hit by it? i couldn't really tell

(didn't help that i don't have any companion calls yet so idk the attack pattern)

[mint coral]

Is rare to get hit by dog/rocks but is super punishing if you do get caught on it

Phase 1 is basically the hardest of super dad thanks to summons

Acorn gets squished by B.balls or sneaks

[opaque fable]

no doubt about that, for sure

even on reg dad the adds are extra annoying

they have obscene amount of armor

[mint coral]

Sneaks are the most pain in the ass when playing rama

Have fun trying to charge a shot

[opaque fable]

does phase 3 have new moves or is it just the darkness

[mint coral]

Just darkness

[opaque fable]

i was busy keeping distance and trying to not die

[mint coral]

A niche with doomstone summon is that you can use the entity limit

If he summons it first just get enough crystals on field before the 2nd set of summons and nothing will appear

Gameplay aside

Did you enjoy the music

[opaque fable]

was banger

i can't imagine playing this with extra speed or more damage

spins dealing 40 is already bad enough

[mint coral]

Or extra health

[opaque fable]

oh boy yeah

genuinely think if i had +15% hp pact i would lose

[mint coral]

So yeah super dad just snowballs hard from the pact and so people don't touch it till like 55+ heat lmao

I did 45 super dad and had less difficulty on normal dad 50

[opaque fable]

i'm glad i got to experience it though

[mint coral]

I still use em4 for fun runs though

It is a fun fight normally

[opaque fable]

oh heck i didn't even consider the 3rd phase requiring more time

[mint coral]

I think angel lost a 64 heat run once cuz of time

Dad did darkness at the last second

[opaque fable]

that's so brutal

speaking of darkness, can dad actually hit you while he's invis

[mint coral]

Nah

He's completely gone

[mint coral]

https://youtu.be/RysqXyj-tk4?t=1936

[devout terrace]

[opaque fable]

oh huh, td running out doesn't autokill you?

[devout terrace]

no

you just lose 5 hp every second

[mint coral]

Omg micro internet celebrity angel

👋

[devout terrace]

hi idkmanassomeone

(thats you on twitch right)

[mint coral]

I think I lost that account but yeah it was me lmao

Or I changed the name

[plucky turtle]

Hi

What is the best bow build?

Its been very hard for me to choose which one is the best aspect for it as well as the best boons to prio

[opaque fable]

hera crush shot is very powerful

rama likewise

[plucky turtle]

How bout chairon

[mint coral]

Somehow that's the best tipo I've seen of chiron

[plucky turtle]

Lol

[mint coral]

Chiron is the worst of the bow aspects sadly

Hera/rama on top for speed/high heat respectively

Zag bow is vibing

[plucky turtle]

Zag is actually good?

Damn

[mint coral]

Solid enough

[plucky turtle]

I hated it lol

[opaque fable]

it deals damage

which is nice

[mint coral]

Are you dash striking?

[void vigil]

Bow my beloved

[plucky turtle]

Mostly

[mint coral]

Then is probably more preference at that point

[plucky turtle]

Is rama worth it

[mint coral]

Zag bow is basically a rhythm game once you get the timing for dash strike powershots

Rama is super fun/really strong

[plucky turtle]

But the special is not too good

For zag

I feel like

Yeh

[mint coral]

That's why you don't use it

Or at most to clear a bunch of projectiles

[plucky turtle]

Exactly

[opaque fable]

yeah you just keep dash striking

[mint coral]

Rama uses both stuff (people do special only runs ) but its main draw is the attack too

Is also slower so it may won't be a favorite of you

[stiff obsidian]

people do zagbow special only runs too

we just have to find them

[plucky turtle]

Ive seen a lot of people going like chiron being the best an all

For homing

[opaque fable]

it's also turbo slow and dies to trying to kill 2 units at the same time

[plucky turtle]

So rama or hera?

I hate to reload

So ill just go rama

[void vigil]

All the Chiron hate it got me my first EM4 clear

Tbf that was pre-nerf

I don’t play Rama much but Hera is super strong if you get the right cast

[plucky turtle]

Exactly

[mint coral]

Most people use it for their first clears

[plucky turtle]

U need wine guy to give u his cast

[mint coral]

But you asked for best so you aren't catching me recommending chiron

[opaque fable]

trippy hera is not cooking

[mint coral]

Also nah

Hera best cast is aphro's

[opaque fable]

you just turbo force crush shot

i've legit never tried hera with any other cast

[mint coral]

Phalanx is fun just don't miss

Or your casts go flying

[plucky turtle]

I hate to like actually go to pick up bloodstones

[mint coral]

And trippy hera still has mirage shot bug which is smth

[plucky turtle]

Lop

[mint coral]

(sadly not pom bug somehow)

[plucky turtle]

Ill go hera for now

Ill grind for rama later

[ashen rapids]

Love hera,good bow

[jagged hamlet]

I did not know Angel is ant-sized! Neat! Though it must make playing Hades quite difficult

[polar latch]

hang on i need to forge a bond with dusa to complete aphrodite's favor?

[jagged hamlet]

Need forged bonds with romantic characters for Aphro, yes

[tardy aurora]

how do i advance the achiles and patroclus story? patroclus isnt saying anything directly to me, achilles is saying other things, nyx hasnt given the permission i need to get the voiding option

[upper wolf]

have you finished sysiphus and orpheus ?

if so, then it's just RNG. Keep talking to achilles.

oh, and be sure to check the codex entry for patroclus

[latent moon]

It's very beginner friendly lol

You have to play at a farther range and it's just easy

[polar latch]

hnn
thank god i don't need bonds with both meg AND than at least

[unkempt parrot]

how do you unlock secret stashes?

[drowsy linden]

zag cast

[drowsy linden]

gift ambrosia to specific charcters

for a slight hint:
||none are olympians||
for specific characters:
||, meg, than, achilles, skelly, and dusa||

[polar latch]

tiny vermin can only appear in a random encounter chamber, right?

[jagged hamlet]

Yes, though I think it's only at the end of skull doors in Styx

[polar latch]

yeah that's what the skull doors are

random encounter chambers at the end

or, at the start, if you're not at styx

[jagged hamlet]

Oh. I wasn't sure what you'd meant by "random encounter chamber"

[polar latch]

i have been trying to get this dialogue for DAYS bc i wanna hear him giggling. god help me i did NOT encounter a single tiny vermin yet
https://64.media.tumblr.com/eb2787b088273345b36746bb53cd8739/4d8237fe2fec3d28-e3/s1280x1920/121bb2138d0aeadd1a0095df2c0b7db5737364cf.jpg

[unkempt parrot]

I wanted aphrodite ):<

[opaque fable]

i think i should stop starting demeter if i want ice wine

[void vigil]

which tumblr post is this from? i dont remember ever seeing this in game, but i could be wrong

[lethal stone]

guys if i have a keepsake that guarantees a gods boon and it shows up together with one of the 3 guys of each region, if i choose that will the gods boon appear again next

[void vigil]

it looks somehow different than the games writing but maybe im misremembering something

[lethal stone]

@void vigil do u know bro

[polar latch]

multiple
https://hadesgamedialogue.tumblr.com/post/652843670010216448/hypnos-advice-tiny-king-verminsaw
https://dailyhypnos.tumblr.com/post/680423728670294016/crawler-also-tiny-vermin

but the caption on the second one is wrong, crawler gives a different dialogue

[lethal stone]

@polar latch do u?:D

[polar latch]

do i what? :0

[lethal stone]

know about this

[polar latch]

in my experience, the god's boon is not guaranteed to appear after

[lethal stone]

really?

damn

[void vigil]

oh yeah i did not remember this one

but i find it pretty easy to die to the little rat guys

[polar latch]

that's the problem, crawler won't do

you need to die to the tiny vermin boss

and i can't get that boss

it just won't spawn

[void vigil]

oh i thought you already got tiny vermin and was trying to die to crawlers LOL

[void vigil]

that's a good thing

but well, it can be behind any boss door in styx, so keep at it

[polar latch]

i've been doing it for 2 days

it sucks that it's at styx, too

[void vigil]

true, its a long way to go just to die

but do it for hypnos sake....

[polar latch]

what if i just search the voice line in the game files instead...?

[void vigil]

there are a lot of voice lines in the game, but if you want to you could ask in the modding server #self-promotion message

[unkempt parrot]

I hate the witches circle with every bone in my body

[polar latch]

hmm... if i delete a single subtitle language, will that hurt the game? will the game fail to run?

probably

[lavish sorrel]

It eventually becomes easy once you get one specific companion and learn how to use it

Considering you probably don't want to get spoiled on stuff since I saw the discussion above I will say no more about it

[polar latch]

thanks!

[rustic vale]

Everytime I use Battie I’m reminded idk how to use it properly

“Oh I’ll just absolutely destroy Theseus and Asterius” hits Theseus

[void vigil]

i havent used any companion other than shady for so long.. the resource director grind

well, since i refunded my mirror for it, it is now the mirror grind

[rustic vale]

I was on the resource director grind but then I just decided I would rather push heat and speed

[lavish sorrel]

How do some not get bored of grinding the ranks

So much darkness

[stiff obsidian]

real and based

[rustic vale]

I finally got my 40 heat win after switching ap1 off my pact

[stiff obsidian]

do 45

[void vigil]

hey, dont talk bad about my 100+ runs grinding poseidon keepsake, chaos and shady runs

[rustic vale]

More sensible than just throwing myself straight at 50

But I think I may also want to get my spear to 32 and the rest of my weapons to 40

[lavish sorrel]

idk that sounds like boredom²

[lavish sorrel]

Yes doing 45 first is near-required

[void vigil]

it is

but i was determined to complete it

[stiff obsidian]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1088591737309638746/1190749780247322634/Screen_Capture_31-12-23_1.35.09_AM.mp4?ex=65a2ef26&is=65907a26&hm=586eff62f4671e0c70280fc490975d161641a8ec231cad4736cfa816d1294d8e&

literally me rn

[rustic vale]

Your fault for having stubborn roots opem

[stiff obsidian]

true

i wasnt expecting to get more athena/ares boons they usually evade me when i want them

[void vigil]

i laughed out loud at those first rerolls sorry LOL

[jagged hamlet]

||dor might be a psychopath ||

[void vigil]

what!! its very funny

[latent moon]

lmfao ap moment

https://imgur.com/pFBSztd

[void vigil]

😭 😭 😭

[stiff obsidian]

ive had that happen but with replaces

x3

[unkempt parrot]

how do I get more titan blood?

[drowsy linden]

beat the game, a method will appear soon

you can also trade

[unkempt parrot]

;-;

trade with whome

[drowsy linden]

wretched broker

at the house

in the lounge

[unkempt parrot]

thanks

[opaque fable]

omg chibi mom!!!

[drifting elbow]

just got the most amazingly stupid run
hunting blades + vicious cycle + rush delivery + hyper sprint + mirage shot + splitting headache because why not

[ionic hemlock]

Since we’re near the end of 2024, what’s the biggest accomplishment you’ve made in hades this year?

mine would be a first sub 10

[latent moon]

getting a sub6 and making it into two haelian vids lmao

[mint coral]

Getting a sub 7

[latent moon]

technically 3 actually

[stiff obsidian]

57 heat

hopefully 58

[stiff obsidian]

lol i just got artemis midboss -> artemis fountain -> zeus midshop -> zeus combat and now i have rod + epic jolted in tart

[latent moon]

dont die

[stiff obsidian]

sorry

[latent moon]

nice

[stiff obsidian]

i ahve been playing for 12 hours straight

[drowsy linden]

heat 45getting chaos theme

[stiff obsidian]

maybe its time to take the L and stop

[lavish sorrel]

[karmic mason]

Fighting ||Charon|| feels like goddamn dark souls
I put so many hits on that cretin and he does 48 damage PER HIT in Tartarus

Doesn't help that I was running the chaos shield which I legitimately can't stand because it feels like the added shields do jack all

[drowsy linden]

50*

[karmic mason]

It was 48 for me ig

[drowsy linden]

also yes chaos shield is garbage

[karmic mason]

But still what in the hell

[drowsy linden]

probably had bronze skin

[karmic mason]

How much health does that bastard have

[covert hare]

actually dont say it

[karmic mason]

[drowsy linden]

not a whole lot, it should feel like a regular dad fight

he's actually fine after a while

[karmic mason]

100% no
I think I took out a third of his health with three death defiances

The chaos aspect sucks ass ig

Like
Wow it's bad

[drowsy linden]

thats just the basic rogue experience

[karmic mason]

Bro I play Noita I'm familiar with the agony loop

win
feel nothing
lose
night ruined

[drowsy linden]

dont worry theres worse than ||charon|| in terms of damage

[karmic mason]

It's not the damage, I can deal with massively heavy hitters. Hades already hits like a freight train
It felt like I was whittling his health down with a butter knife while he was using a great axe

[drowsy linden]

thats just chaos shield

you werent doing anything wrong besides use chaos shield

[covert hare]

atomic bomb vs coughing baby

[karmic mason]

I went into the run with the chaos aspect thinking "man I should stop relying on Zeus aspect"

Back to Zeus

[drowsy linden]

chaos shield is fine if you get the charged shot hammer and spam it

basically on zag and chaos shield, you never special

[stone rune]

well that is the damage

you dont have enough damage

[karmic mason]

I kept throwing the multiple shields thinking "this'll do more damage" and then I just started attacking him outright and neither one did any more damage lmao

[stone rune]

https://youtu.be/_a_n1mV7J1o?si=M-8z4JClmX387pJx&t=915 this is good damage

[karmic mason]

a) what in the goddamn
b) why the constant pausing

[stone rune]

positioning

[drowsy linden]

1. hidden shield
2. pause buffering is cool

[karmic mason]

how do you do that aspect like that it sucks I can't stand it lmao

[stone rune]

beowulf

sucks?

[karmic mason]

for me

[stiff obsidian]

It does

[drowsy linden]

step 1:
get cast
step 2: get mirage shot
step 3: profit

[karmic mason]

skill issue apparently but I legitimately can't figure it out whatsoever

[stone rune]

[karmic mason]

It doesn't abide by any rule of the game I've learned so far

[stone rune]

its the best aspect in the game

[drowsy linden]

beowulf is actually a fairly balanced/bad aspect if you dont use bugs/charged shot

[stone rune]

not rlly

its still very good on just passion flare

[karmic mason]

wait hold on
is the aspect good because of merits or because of cheese

[stone rune]

what differencr does it make

just get mirage

its a good aspect anyways

people still used it before knowing cshot was good or that mirage was bugged

[drowsy linden]

mirage shot has a glitch where the mirage doesnt get less damage
so its just double damage

[stone rune]

its a different build but its not bad

[karmic mason]

what's mirage shot again

[drowsy linden]

additionally, trippy flare gets double damage from poms(so first pom gets you to 220 damage instead of 160)

[stone rune]

it can clear 60 heat

[stone rune]

arty pos duo

[karmic mason]

so let's just say that it's high skill ceiling and leave it at that because I have no idea what the hell you dudes see talking about lol

I prefer to hit the button and do damage lol

[stone rune]

it’s pretty easy to use

[karmic mason]

Zeus aspect good 👍

[stone rune]

zeus is good too

[drowsy linden]

zeus is actually more complex than beo to use imo

[stone rune]

but definitely much harder to use

[karmic mason]

Counterpoint: nuh uh
I can't use it without getting my skull bashed in

[stiff obsidian]

I like ur counterpoint

[drowsy linden]

for beo, you do this:
pres cast 3 times
dash strike(or standing even though its worse)
charge
release

congrats, you have now decimated the underworld

[stone rune]

dont press 3 times every time

thats a path to frustration

just learn ur breakpoints or cycle them 2/1

[last veldt]

Or grab an extra and go 2/2.

[drowsy linden]

no i must load 3 casts on trippy mirage beo even for an unarmored cloned numbskull

[karmic mason]

Waaaaaaait Charon and Hypnos are brothers?

Greece lore?

[covert hare]

greece lore is so complicated

the only reason everyone arent brothers is because they have different mothers

but their father is always zeus

[drowsy linden]

the titans:

[karmic mason]

Is Artemis' Aid ever worth it? Seems like one of the worst ones to me

[rustic vale]

it's definitely not the best call

[karmic mason]

Ares and Aphrodite share the S tier in my eyes

Ares obvs but Aphrodite's greater call is a fantastic way to end a boss fight early

[drowsy linden]

fun fact:
it doesnt do much damage

[stone rune]

HMmmmmmmmmmmmm

[drowsy linden]

ares is really bad later on because you cant attack, so it actually decreases your damage

[stone rune]

how is ares obvious at all

[karmic mason]

Legitimately lies

[stone rune]

ares is literally the worst call in the game

[drowsy linden]

aphrodite is just bad
USE ZOOS

[stone rune]

bar none

[karmic mason]

Huh

[stone rune]

i would much rather have no call than ares

[karmic mason]

HUH

WHAT

[stone rune]

ares just lowers your damage output

for 0 reason

[karmic mason]

Are you bsing me

[stone rune]

no?

[karmic mason]

Dude what

[stone rune]

calls go zeus = dio > athena > aph = pos > arty > dem > ares

and ares is way at the bottom

[karmic mason]

ZEUS FIRST????

Zeus leaves you WIDE open

[stone rune]

do you actually know anything about calls

like have you ever used them

[karmic mason]

Yeah???

[stone rune]

dawg

[karmic mason]

Ares is great fym

[drowsy linden]

aphrodite is mainly bad because you HAVE to use the greater call, which is only for bosses/really weak runs
zeus and dio are generally the best calls since they deal insane damage and can be used at 25% without sacrificing much

[stone rune]

you'll understand when you're older

[karmic mason]

I only ever really use greater calls tbh

[stone rune]

oh

well there's your issue

lol

[karmic mason]

No really? Most non-greater calls kinda suck

[stone rune]

you use calls wrong therefore your idea of what calls are good is wrong

[drowsy linden]

use 25% for rooms/minibosses

[stone rune]

and bosses

[karmic mason]

I exclusively use them on bosses

[stiff obsidian]

Once I used ares call and I almost killed a thug it was awesome

[stone rune]

ok buddy

[stone rune]

LOL

[drowsy linden]

for dad and heroes, greater call is actually something

[covert hare]

wait ares is bad? i love using his call

[stone rune]

it locks you out of dealing any damage

in exchange for pitiful damage

[karmic mason]

ain't pitiful tho

[stone rune]

yes it is

[drowsy linden]

hmmmm

[stiff obsidian]

It is definitely pitiful lmao

[karmic mason]

Unless your bar for good damage is that baeowulf vid from earlier

Because I have no goddamn clue how you do that

[true oak]

I'd take ares if i had vicious cycle maybe

[stone rune]

vicious scam

[drowsy linden]

scam cycle is epic

[stiff obsidian]

I'd take ares call if I'm on ap2 and have no rolls

[true oak]

i think the safety is something at least even if it's slower than zeus

[karmic mason]

I legitimately feel like you guys are bsing those boons are great

[stone rune]

man

[drowsy linden]

i used greater call, almost killed a rat in styx, it was awesome

[stone rune]

when everyone in chat is telling you it sucks

and you{re not on reddit

it probably sucks

[karmic mason]

When my experience is otherwise tho lol

[drowsy linden]

jazz is a former world record holder(i think)
false side gets ap2'd and thats about it(and also does heat 50 ig)

[stone rune]

well your experience is only using greater calls

calls are much stronger in small calls

[drowsy linden]

and i reset my mirror for chaos theme

[karmic mason]

Who's jazz

[drowsy linden]

vetbaitednv

[stone rune]

not former

[karmic mason]

oh

[stone rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1028112977100017666/1190795127371874465/image.png?ex=65a31962&is=6590a462&hm=f5f484db3eab316954f2569059a3a2fb8aaba5370aabb036e301767c2be26a28&

since im given the opportunity im legally required to brag

[karmic mason]

Modded 🤨

whatchu doin boi?

[stone rune]

im not speedrunning unmodded bro

[drowsy linden]

modded is only rng

[karmic mason]

what?

[stone rune]

if you want im 6th on the unmodded boards

but unmodded as a category is worthless

[karmic mason]

Okay now I respect it

[stone rune]

i have less than 5 hours unmodded speedrunning

because its miserable

[karmic mason]

Why tho

[opaque fable]

what mods are used for speedrunning?

[void vigil]

Everyone’s experience is different and not everyone is optimising for damage, heat and speed - while the meta in the game is very defined by now please still be mindful that not everyone plays that way. Also just be nice. That’s all :)

[stone rune]

oh boy! time for unmodded session! who's ready to reset for 3/13 chance every 5 minutes?

[karmic mason]

You reset?

[stone rune]

dawg

[opaque fable]

i mean if you don't hit you just toss the run anyways

[stiff obsidian]

If you are speedrunning u got to lmao

[stone rune]

oh yeah lemme just keep a 4 min out of aspho run or something

[drowsy linden]

"modded" generally refers to speedrun modpack, which does the following:
removes thanatos
removes asterius miniboss
removes barge
guarantees sack in second tunnel
gives 4 boon choices when offered
guarantees first hammer and boon choice

[stone rune]

of course u reset

[karmic mason]

Feels like speedrunning kinda kills the rougelite part of rougelite

[stone rune]

to get good pace and boons

if the time out of asphodel is literally more than the goal time already theres no reason to keep playing

[drowsy linden]

tldr just removes runkillers with a bit of rng

[karmic mason]

removed asterius miniboss
Best fight in the game removed, speedrunning confirmed subpar

[drowsy linden]

the shield is annoying

[stone rune]

i love asterius midboss! i love 1exit thats not chaos eligible and a significantly longer fight!!!

[latent moon]

for the times you see at the top of the leaderboard, you unironically have to reset for at least an hour for a usable tartarus

[stone rune]

eh not rlly

you can get a sub130 in maybe half an hour if you want to

[latent moon]

i mean

[stone rune]

out of tart

[karmic mason]

wait
wait wait wait wait
Confirms sack in second tunnel???
Literally removing the rougelite from the rougelite wtf

[rustic vale]

I mean speedrun modpack is a seperate category of speedrunning

aside from that

[stone rune]

its speedrunning dude

[latent moon]

you might get cucked out of 1st boon and hammer easily
and even if you do get both, there's no guaranteeing a good tart

[rustic vale]

nothing

[stone rune]

why would you not remove the coinflip at the end of the run

[latent moon]

i love it when wr pace is decided by a coin flip

also like

[stone rune]

that decides whether or not you get to have a good pace

[latent moon]

it's modded for a reason

and on a separate leaderboard

[rustic vale]

The whole idea of the modpack is reducing rng so it’s mainly skill

[latent moon]

if you have a problem with the speedrunning modpack then just dont play modded

but still respect the achievements made

because not everyone is willing to grind it for that long and hard

[karmic mason]

Okay when you put it like that I guess it makes sense

[stiff obsidian]

In conclusion,

Ares call sucks

[karmic mason]

NUH UH

[opaque fable]

it's mega bad

[stone rune]

lemme just pull out my ares call for a total of like 120 damage

[opaque fable]

actual negative synergy

[latent moon]

ares call is only used for invincibility, not damage lmao

[stone rune]

i once used ares call in a tis fight and literally died because of it

the iframes ended at a bad time

[drowsy linden]

eh ares call is good if youre not using the big damage builds

[stiff obsidian]

Same

[karmic mason]

Ares greater call, sit in Hades's hitbox, chill for a few seconds
Simple as

[stone rune]

ares call kills (you)

[rustic vale]

❌

[drowsy linden]

or scam cycle, even though ive only used it once

[opaque fable]

you could do this with athena and actually do damage instead of not doing damage

[stone rune]

you have successfully kited for 4 seconds while dealing like a total of 1000 damage

when you could have dealt like 4000 already

[karmic mason]

My bar for calls is their ability to kill bosses

[rustic vale]

And so like

[stone rune]

someone retrieve the 1000 damage zeus call crit

[karmic mason]

Okay maybe you can I can't

[rustic vale]

Zeus and dionysus minicalls should be at the top of your list

[stiff obsidian]

Even dem. Call should be doing as much DMG as ares while also applying chill

[opaque fable]

we love free damage buttons

[drowsy linden]

zeus casually killing the entirety of lernie's last phase:

[karmic mason]

That's Aphrodite's greater call tho

[opaque fable]

[karmic mason]

You spend the fight building call and then obliterate him

[rustic vale]

aphrodites greater call is use 4* the call meter for 1/2 the damage

[drowsy linden]

im afraid you dont understand
i meant including the 6 miniheads

[void vigil]

I know y’all have been in this server for a while and played the game for hundreds of hours but if a new member comes around and doesn’t play exclusively how you do, please be nice about it

[karmic mason]

I don't think there's any malice here I'm legitimately just on a different page

[karmic mason]

[opaque fable]

i'll be real idk if i like aphro greater call

much rather mash lesser for cc

[void vigil]

I like it I get funny voicelines for it

[karmic mason]

I love listening to what Hades says when I greater call

"Aphrodite!"

Piss off, boy

[drowsy linden]

aphrodite greater call is fine(at least its free damage and easy to use), but minicall is simply beyond what i can handle

[karmic mason]

In fairness I just don't minicall half the time

[rustic vale]

If I have aphro aid I’m using minicall

It’s saving me a hit

[latent moon]

lmao a lot of us have been here for a while and we learned what's hard meta and what's not, and since the game doesn't get updated there's not really much of discovering new things at this point in the game

[karmic mason]

I forget the god guage is there until boss fights happen

[latent moon]

like 97% of what's meta atm will stay meta

[drowsy linden]

they help a LOT for almost every elysium room

[opaque fable]

literally just mash the call button when it's about to proc

[drowsy linden]

instantly kills 1-2 shades

[latent moon]

there's only been 1 recent development really, and that was 60 heat guan yu on a spin build

[rustic vale]

Whens the next Hades patch that makes flursed optimal sword gaming

[covert hare]

man i like using ares call, why do i always play the opposite

[karmic mason]

Legitimately
How

[latent moon]

got it, we will remove the sword

[karmic mason]

Like actually how the hell

[drowsy linden]

zeus/dio call, as mentioned before

[stiff obsidian]

eris ares atk 😩

[karmic mason]

wait what

[rustic vale]

Have you never used zeus or dio’s minicalls?

[stiff obsidian]

i must make it meta

[karmic mason]

oh you mean either or not combo call lmao

[covert hare]

well atleast i ignored arty call

[opaque fable]

you put poms into that or what

[rustic vale]

Either

they both do great damage

[latent moon]

zeus call needs supporting zeus boons to deal good damage, mainly static discharge and double strike
dio call just needs poms for massive damage

[rustic vale]

Can confirm

[latent moon]

those calls will generally pretty easily kill any ely enemy, including the chariots

[rustic vale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/795659377755422742/1088599008890597477/output.png?ex=65973954&is=6584c454&hm=36336442537c5c03799bac7bd506ced6ea5cbdd14d843da179e82953b4257343&

[opaque fable]

wow that's crazy

[drowsy linden]

dio does like 15 per tick
each stack ticks for 8 times
8x15=120 damage
120x5(because 5 stacks)=600

big damage, and this is just common pomless

[latent moon]

every other call doesn't really have much damage except like poseidon call with rip current

[covert hare]

athena call deals damage? i thought it just made you invincible

[latent moon]

technically it does

[karmic mason]

Imma level
I don't know what damage is anyway

[latent moon]

since like

you can still attack while invinciblie

[karmic mason]

I have no barometer for damage

[latent moon]

that's fair tbh

[opaque fable]

athena does do damage by letting you ooga booga on offense

[rustic vale]

The thing that makes enemy hp go down

[karmic mason]

Because enemies don't have damage numbers over their heads

[latent moon]

did you turn it off

[drowsy linden]

zeus shield
enemeis do have damage numbers

[latent moon]

i'm pretty sure that's a setting you can toggle

[covert hare]

they have

[opaque fable]

just remember

[karmic mason]

IS IT!!!!!!

[rustic vale]

Have you turned off the damage numbers in the settings?

[opaque fable]

bro has been playing hard mode this whole time

[karmic mason]

no no no nonononoon

[latent moon]

im like

fairly certain?

[rustic vale]

On certain builds I kind of need to turn off damage numbers because my switch won’t handle it

[latent moon]

i might be confusing it with a different game

[karmic mason]

not the number of damage you do I mean health bar number

[latent moon]

but like

[ashen rapids]

Guess hes talking about enemy health bar

[latent moon]

oh health bar number

[karmic mason]

Like 34/100

[ashen rapids]

not the damage bar

[latent moon]

yeah that's not a thing

[rustic vale]

Oh no you can’t see enemy hp

[karmic mason]

I have no idea how much health things have so

[rustic vale]

Doesn’t really matter because you can see how much damage you yourseld do

[opaque fable]

just remember

[latent moon]

there's a document somewhere but also that kinda doesnt really matter too much lmao

[karmic mason]

"this call does 50 damage"
Okay cool bud means nothing to me lmao

[rustic vale]

and you can also see zeus and dio call rip through enemy hp

[latent moon]

a lot of it is kinda vibes based tbf

yeah mainly that

[karmic mason]

I just have no barometer for what is or isn't high damage lol

I know Aphrodite is a lot of damage

[opaque fable]

i think it's mostly experience

[rustic vale]

Watch a few speedruns 😈

[latent moon]

yeah definitely mostly experience

[drowsy linden]

for reference, hades first phase has 17k health
dio minicall(common unpommed, meaning its really weak) does 600

[karmic mason]

Legitimately won't help me in the slightest because they're pressing more buttons per second than a court stenographer lmfao

[rustic vale]

Buttons per second doesn’t really matter, it gives you a feel for what is good damage

[stiff obsidian]

its about the boons not the buttons

[karmic mason]

How much does the average Elysium enemy have

[drowsy linden]

actually not much button pressing
you should see my sword and achilles runs where i dont get the right duos

[ashen rapids]

u can see what they are going for or doing tho

[rustic vale]

And then you can actually see what they build

[drowsy linden]

like 1-1.5k

splitters have like 200-250

[rustic vale]

And also get mechanical skill from watching what they do

[karmic mason]

splitters can die I hate them so much

splitters and the Asphodel witches

[drowsy linden]

just have deflect
they die to their own balls

[latent moon]

for you at this point in the game, the biggest thing you should pick up from speedrunners is how to build properly

[opaque fable]

good builds carry bad players (like me)

[karmic mason]

tbh I don't care
What I want right now is to learn to play lyre

[latent moon]

the mechanical stuff is less important unless it's like dash striking on bow and cast management on castpects

[karmic mason]

Like I really wanna play the lyre

I wanna duet with Orpheus

[drowsy linden]

for that, spam the button and talk to orpheus

[latent moon]

hit the button 210 times then you'll learn it

[ashen rapids]

oh lol

[karmic mason]

TWO HUNDRED AND TEN

[latent moon]

210 is a legit number btw

[drowsy linden]

with talks with orphy in between*

[rustic vale]

Have fun doing that 210 times

[karmic mason]

it's so slow once Zag starts playing real chords tho hahhhhhhhhhh

[ashen rapids]

i dont remember touching it that much

[drowsy linden]

it is 210

[karmic mason]

because it was sweetly serenading your ears :)

[latent moon]

it's straight up 210

[rustic vale]

You don’t remember doing what to the lyre?

[ashen rapids]

just touched it every time i went to a run

[karmic mason]

poke the guitar it makes sound

[karmic mason]

what does that say about how much you play lmao

[drowsy linden]

i just string it a couple times a run
if you really want to grind it, i think exiting the room resets cooldown, but your game has to load at lightning speed for it to be worth it

[ashen rapids]

TOUCH ( 😦 )

[rustic vale]

I was doing 1 play per run till I found that way too slow

[opaque fable]

wow my crystal clarity run this morning had a 40 second dad

i'm kind of impressed

[karmic mason]

I'm gonna be Orpheus's new muse
Just you watch mfs

[latent moon]

how tf

what kind of cast damage do you have there lmfao

[drowsy linden]

probably just godly chaos rng

[latent moon]

yeah no kidding

[opaque fable]

5 casts stygian with clarity and mirage

[ashen rapids]

dunno really,sometimes when i was afk in my room i played it while eating noddle 20 times or more

[latent moon]

5 casts explains a lot lmao

[opaque fable]

hermes leg too

[latent moon]

oh god yeah

[ashen rapids]

maybe like banana said its 210

[latent moon]

that's uh

[opaque fable]

how do you upload videos

[latent moon]

90 minimum additive or something

[drowsy linden]

embeds

[opaque fable]

you get to watch me play like an absolute ape but it doesn't matter

[drowsy linden]

or links

[karmic mason]

I love the chaos boon that gives +gems and darkness
I got 497 darkness at once with that

[latent moon]

was it achilles?

[karmic mason]

I think from the lernie fight?

[opaque fable]

how do i do this

[latent moon]

send to a different server/dm or whatever and copy the link

[karmic mason]

Post something in a personal server and then copy the link

[opaque fable]

okie

[drowsy linden]

upload it to something like youtube, then put the link in here

[latent moon]

not message link, the other link

or youtube

[drowsy linden]

for images, this works

[stiff obsidian]

media link

[latent moon]

i dont think i have a good dad kill recorded maybe i should farm one

[karmic mason]

everyone in here like "chaos damage rng" bro I use chaos for gems and darkness
I am playing a different game

[opaque fable]

fun fact

5 casts

[latent moon]

oh nvm i have a 28.99 dad kill

[opaque fable]

0 chaos casts

[karmic mason]

Hermes type beat

[drowsy linden]

oh prometheus

[opaque fable]

i just hit arte leg and 2 stones

[latent moon]

i mean if you need resources then that's fine lmao

[ashen rapids]

what was ur build?

[drowsy linden]

any braids?

[latent moon]

but also extra cast and/or cast damage kinda good

[drowsy linden]

"beowulf"

[stiff obsidian]

i use chaos for extension into c14 hermes to sell for UC i am playing another gametoo

[ashen rapids]

oh no

[opaque fable]

ok that doesn't work

[drowsy linden]

rip

[opaque fable]

i'll just upload to yt rq

[karmic mason]

Okay now I know I'm playing a different game because I need all three death defiances to kill John Hades

[latent moon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/839538570738139146/1190800845776883743/image.png?ex=65a31eb5&is=6590a9b5&hm=41a34d6b0c9d4f5c5960d6f7044c582bd414a5de39b65dfa5c4e5997b50f9e50&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1191&height=670

[karmic mason]

nah not all three that's not correct
I need at least two

[latent moon]

4 ichors and rd

and braid

[karmic mason]

One is a 50/50 on if I can win

[drowsy linden]

just get better

[karmic mason]

[ashen rapids]

thank u

[drowsy linden]

then youll need 0 hp to kill dad

[gray apex]

Gud build

[stiff obsidian]

🥺

[karmic mason]

Hades is just spoiled kid simulator

[latent moon]

yeah pretty much

[drowsy linden]

rip common rd

[latent moon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zzj0hdacdXY

video link if you want

not the most impressive one out there but it's still good lmao

[gray apex]

Shameless plug

[ashen rapids]

oh thanks,will watch

[latent moon]

tbf i forgot i even had a good dad kill

[gray apex]

Real gamers farm em4 kills

[latent moon]

oh maybe i should do that

that sounds fun

dio beo time

[gray apex]

Get sub1

[opaque fable]

wait am i stupid

ok no it was a 1 min dad

i just can't read my video player

[latent moon]

sounds like a pain in the ass for sub1 em4 dad fight

but i shall try at some point tonight

once i get a good build i might just save state the dad fight and cheese it from there

[gray apex]

If it’s any heat it’s not that bad

[latent moon]

i mean yeah

but the bigger isssue is like

getting the build

and i'm not good at dad fight

[karmic mason]

I'm gonna go back and beat the tar out of ||Charon|| because I hate him rn

[latent moon]

my dad fights without em4 is like consistently ~40 sec

[gray apex]

On beo?

[stone rune]

i feel like its more like 33-35 if the build is kinda bad

[latent moon]

yeah

my average out of 27 runs is 43 sec

[rustic vale]

Not me being unable to send my vids to my phone from my switch rn

For no reason

“Unable to connect to network”

My data is disabled and there is literally no more ways to trouble shoot it past that

[latent moon]

oh there's a lot of stinkers in that 27 streak

[gray apex]

For a streak makes sense ig

[latent moon]

discounting the stinkers tho seems like 35-40

so im not completely wrong lmao

[gray apex]

If you don’t get a build it’s pain

What is heroes average

[opaque fable]

i think the funnier part of the run i had was the 12 second vermin

[rustic vale]

it would be so funny if the Hades team left Apollo out for Hades 2 just for everyone who asked why he wasn’t in the first

[opaque fable]

entire hp bad went down

[latent moon]

i'd have to go through the videos individually and i somehow dont have vids for runs 24-27

the sheet doesnt track heroes kills

but i'd say on average maybe 10 secs max? maybe a few stinkers but discounting those max 10 sounds about right

[gray apex]

10s is quite good

[latent moon]

that's assuming with build

i just know my dad fights aren't that great in general

[gray apex]

Understandable

[latent moon]

a lot of the time it's not enough juice for 2 volleys and i need 3 tbf

other times it's kinda like bad positioning and bad timings

sometimes darkness but i doubt that's the overlying problem

[gray apex]

On the streak or just in general?

[latent moon]

i think in general

[gray apex]

3 volleys is pain territory

[latent moon]

tbf i haven't played beo in a long time but i know i'm def not that clean

[gray apex]

Yea those are tough to do on the spot

[latent moon]

and i dont really like hard reset for good damage or whatever

[opaque fable]

#h1-victory-boasting message here for anyone who wants to watch an ape play cast builds

[latent moon]

generally speaking if i get mirage before lernie i just play out the rest of the run

even if like ely sucks lmao

because ely and dad practice is something

[gray apex]

Yea fair it’s good practice

[rustic vale]

I’m just trying to send myself the clip of me 20s Alecto

[gray apex]

Styx practice also important

[latent moon]

and i dont have the mental fortitude to play more than 2 or 3 runs in a sitting and i just want to play the game lmao

[rustic vale]

When I started the fight at 4.39.97 or smthing and ended the fight at 4:59:57

[gray apex]

You have to go into your tryhard era

[latent moon]

i already have 1 sub6 that's good enough for me lmao

if anything i want unmodded 50 heat

[stone rune]

heroes can go either way

[gray apex]

19 more

[rustic vale]

Ok but how many sub3s?

[latent moon]

god no

[stone rune]

i have some 4 second heroes and i also have like an 18 second heroes

[latent moon]

more than you

[rustic vale]

Also you should have at least 24 sub6’s

[stone rune]

i have 4

[rustic vale]

1 for each aspect

Sub6 w/ chaos or chiron

[stone rune]

the chiron sub6 seed was a low 4 on beo

[gray apex]

Rama?

[jagged hamlet]

Delicious Ares call!

Sorry I'm very late

[latent moon]

I did modded 50 rama already

I don't wanna do ri lmao

Or ap2

[gray apex]

So what I’m understanding is

It’s beo

[rustic vale]

How long do the bubbles take to drop?

[latent moon]

yeah ofc

when i was doing attempts a while ago, i made it to styx then died in the 4th tunnel

so that was fun

[marsh merlin]

you should give me a build to try and a set of stuff from the pact for my 7 heat run (demeter fists)

[stone rune]

merciful end

em1 fo2

[ashen rapids]

so i watched this now

does this works like hera bow

with ur cast?

never used beowulf thats why im curious

[drowsy linden]

somewhat

beo is very different from hera while being very similar

[ashen rapids]

nah the cast part

like u charge cast and use with attack

[marsh merlin]

shouldnt be that bad i do ME a lot anyway

[drowsy linden]

the main difference is the casts
hera is just basic casts, beo is a "flare", which is like trippy shot but without delay

and then beo has a LOT more bugs

[ashen rapids]

Ohhh

sorry hera bow im going beo now

lol

[stone rune]

yes

[drowsy linden]

also beo doesnt lodge

[stone rune]

u load casts and they pop out with bull rush

in ape

aoe

[latent moon]

Beo is if Hera had more aoe and bugs

[ashen rapids]

Thank u guys

didn't know it

[upper wolf]

beo be kinda ape tbh. You just go unga bunga on the enemies and they explode

[latent moon]

If you get charged shot then it's just better hera

[ashen rapids]

Ohhh

[drowsy linden]

not if youre using aim assist

(like me)

[ashen rapids]

aim assist?

[drowsy linden]

settings option that makes zag attack an enemy if its close to where he's facing

[covert hare]

bruh im so mad, i already lost the progress of two runs because my pc keeps shutting off at 30% battery

[winter plaza]

might be an internal issue

[ashen rapids]

Nah i don't have that

[covert hare]

it doesnt even give a warning of the pc shutting off or something

[ashen rapids]

with plug on?

[drowsy linden]

its mainly if you dont want to use mouse and ONLY keyboard
it works until youre on shield or gy

[stone rune]

i was looking for dads to post in response to the thing above but i cant find anything

[winter plaza]

could be an issue with overheating cpu or something of the sort

[stone rune]

i guess a 24 will do maybe

[covert hare]

no

[latent moon]

Bruh lmao ofc that'd do

[stone rune]

i thought i had a 23

[latent moon]

Anything below 25 would do for peak beo

Oh fair enough

[ashen rapids]

i use both so im used to that way

[ashen rapids]

how u can play a game without a plug on

it is not good for ur laptop

if it is a laptop?

[stone rune]

apparently my best one is 24.65

i suck

[covert hare]

yes but what do you mean plug

i thought you mean using it while charging

[ashen rapids]

yeah that's what i mean

[stone rune]

no i have a 23.41

i cant find it

[ashen rapids]

without charging ur pc doesn't get the fps it needs to run a game smoothly

do u have fan control?

[stone rune]

cant find the video so heres the screenshot

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/787779451865399368/1174801159316324372/image.png?ex=65a048d7&is=658dd3d7&hm=42c83f7c8db031fa258e3a20f55d60e1d7656c7476053eb640c899afeb9f3a75&

bad time

but whatever

[covert hare]

idk

[ashen rapids]

i use that theme too lol

[covert hare]

but what does that have to do with the fact that it turns off when reaching 30% battery

[ashen rapids]

could be any possibility

the battery

[winter plaza]

overheating can turn off your laptop

[ashen rapids]

overheating

without charging u play game that makes ur pc overheat

[winter plaza]

that's usually the main cause

[ashen rapids]

Yeah agreed

[drowsy linden]

having a bad pc

(like my old one)

[winter plaza]

how long have you had it?

[ashen rapids]

i love my laptop ngl

[covert hare]

years

[winter plaza]

needa smack some new thermal paste on that or something

might wanna get the fan checked out

cuz

it's probably the issue

[ashen rapids]

Could be dust and thermal paste problem like claire said

[covert hare]

how weird because its not hot whenever i check

[winter plaza]

if it's been owned for years, ye

[winter plaza]

definitely a fan issue then

if it isn't hot at all and is still turning off, the heat is getting trapped inside

meaning it's basically burning your components

meaning it's killing your battery

my guess is dust and thermal paste needs replacing

[ashen rapids]

if u re not doing something heavy u can use laptop without charging but like being on rendering programs or gaming u have to use the laptop with charging

[covert hare]

man its not even my pc what im gonna do

[winter plaza]

im not an expert on laptops so whatever sara is saying is probably true

[ashen rapids]

Im not a expert too but had a few laptops

[winter plaza]

i usually work on pcs so

common issue is heat sinks when it comes to stuff like that

[ashen rapids]

im just an architect

i use rendering programs

mostly games

[covert hare]

i cant ask for help because my brother would kill me

[ashen rapids]

Someone aside u uses the pc?

[covert hare]

my brother

[ashen rapids]

Does that happens when he uses the laptop

[covert hare]

no because he doesnt play games at all

[ashen rapids]

so it happens only when u play games

def a heating or fan problem

and playing without charging

[winter plaza]

probably overheating the cpu

guess it isn't used to running higher end things

[ashen rapids]

hades isn't that heavy game tho

[winter plaza]

they said it was old so

[ashen rapids]

he plays without plug on

[winter plaza]

gotta charge it ig

power surge that mf

[covert hare]

not THAT old

[winter plaza]

get zeus boon and power it up

[ashen rapids]

If the problem keeps happening while u charging and playing with the laptop

could be thermal paste and dust

[covert hare]

i thought it was common sense that if battery full you unplug

[ashen rapids]

while gaming?

nope

while gaming and using rendering programs u have to use it with charging on

to use it at best performance

[covert hare]

mandatory?

[ashen rapids]

i mean yeah

u want a lagging game?

[covert hare]

it does not lag

its just the turning off problem

[ashen rapids]

thermal paste and dust problem then

one time check it while its on 30% battery

if it still turns off while charging at that battery level

than thats the problem,if not