also i might be wrong but the crit is also green if you have artemis' attack
#h1-discussion
latent moon
drowsy linden
bruh i hate zeus block bug
just casually ended my heat 40 run and made me take a lot of extra damage in other biomes
latent moon
splitting bolt moment
drowsy linden
time to never take splitting again
latent moon
i mean if you pick up splitting bolt just kill them faster lmao
drowsy linden
this is em4
latent moon
kill them faster lmao
drowsy linden
on life support because sneaks and than decided to be funny
latent moon
i mean splitting is still a good pick up you just have to be more mindful of leaving the shield out
drowsy linden
my whole strategy is blocking
spam dash/block/charge
and also died to beams at the bottom of the map while pots are everywhere, guess i just gotta be better
wary iron
If I have ME in Tartarus (no divine dash yet) would it make sense to sell Athena special to increases the chance to increase the rarity of doom if I potentially get Eurydice?
latent moon
what's the current doom rarity
also it's worth keeping anyways since you can dash strike and dupper in the same dash
to proc ME
also if you pick up some random cast, the next athena boon is guaranteed to have her dash
or a replacement lmao
but you're more likely to get the dash
wary iron
Common doom
latent moon
Why do you keep running with common doom lmfao
I'd just keep the special for the funny tech thing
wary iron
Well, level 11 common doom
latent moon
latent moon
I had 5 attempts today and 4 of them were common doom one rare
Are you on pride
But yeah you're missing out on like 50 damage
latent moon
Lvl 10 common doom is literally level 3 epic doom lmfao
Taking rare is fine but I'd never take common
wary iron
So just die and restart the run if I only get common?
latent moon
Yeah lol
Or take a different aspect and use those rarities for a different build lmao
wary iron
Yeah, thank you
formal orbit
I only see people seriously use legacy for beowulf
wary iron
I only see people seriously use legacy for beowulf
That’s why i still had it in
nimble wren
The fishes never appearing in the caos zone aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
drowsy linden
I only see people seriously use legacy for beowulf
hunting blades for me
ive done 2-3 runs, 0 hunting blades
formal orbit
You don’t need hunting blades for achilles
mental mirage
Can you run triple A games with 8 gb of ram?
I have a good pc but it only got 8 gb of ram
So I’m curious
stone rune
what does that have to do with hades
tiny dust
hey y'all, just picked up the game again after about 3 years of not playing. Just got the Subborn Roots duo boon, which I don't think existed back then. But it's not doing anything. I'm not getting any regen in any of these rooms. Is there a known issue, or am I missing something?
drowsy linden
hey y'all, just picked up the game again after about 3 years of not playing. Ju...
you need to not have death defiances
tiny dust
you need to not have death defiances
oh i'm blind, it says "if", thought it was replacing my death defiances
ty
drowsy linden
there are about 3 boons which require you to be lacking:
stubborn roots
positive outlook(less damage taken below 40% health)
afterparty(less than the specified amount of health)
np
stiff obsidian
positive outlook gaming on sd
stiff obsidian
would you rather flurry cast > bad news or hyper delivery for a cast build
latent moon
flurry cast doesn't go into bad news
flurry cast goes into auto reload or whatever that one is
stiff obsidian
ill probably get neither so 
latent moon
sounds about right
autumn rose
i would've thought rush delivery would be the legendary
if i
knew it wasn't
but then u cud give the cast stuff to the artemis legendary
brisk trail
sometimes I have so good of a build going into em4 dad and I feel like he's like: "yup, me stronk...WAIT WHY DO I HEAR BOSS MUSIC"
undone tundra
how bad of an idea would it be to go a full dodge build
frozen tinsel
rose roost
pretty sure haelian tried that before
mint coral
It works assuming you just get your build naturally
Or at least high ebough dodge that the lack of dps won't hurt you
undone tundra
yeahhh
rose roost
if you get Ares/Athena u can try to get ME
or u get Zeus and go from there
Dio attk is cope but prolly can work
mint coral
Can also trade some dodge from hermes for rush delivery instead
rose roost
why
mint coral
How
rose roost
eshot doesn't get cast bonuses
mint coral
Did you not use aphro's keepsake
rose roost
should've taken aphro from start
undone tundra
fair
got epic (and common) cast dmg% from chaos so imm chilling generally
oh, got zeus legendary
upper wolf
ok JS2 CP2 is pretty brutal
I'm having a hard time dealing with the 5 minutes deadline in tartarus
... mainly because I tunnel vision into having a build that requires like 5 boons and 2 hammers and epic hermes and 3 pattys and
rose roost
stone rune
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1130367855154708480/1173665490229534830...
yea
rose roost
oop
stone rune
camel good
rose roost
it's just funny that unmodded is faster than modded lol
stone rune
yeah that time is insane
rose roost
sub 8 at 50 heat is insane
stone rune
nobody has rlly gone and tried to beat it
rose roost
stone rune
now look at 32 and 40 :croven:
stone rune
yeah its not verified yet
rose roost
ic
latent moon
it's just funny that unmodded is faster than modded lol
I think thats the same for anyheat rama too lmao
rose roost
damn 19days??
stone rune
last verification round was 16 days ago
stone rune
rose roost
that is such a huge imbalance lol
stone rune
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1130367855154708480/1173667392946184192...
its crazy that the wr has a 41s styx
stone rune
i feel like its a little slow just for a normal run
like if u have a 445 ely exit
ur expecting to look at like
525 dad entrance
raw herald
yea
stone rune
and 41 is a little bit longer
but also
imagine if it was like a good styx
like 29 or something
stone rune
have u tried not getting a rat room
raw herald
ye
raw herald
didnt work 😦
latent moon
that is such a huge imbalance lol
Beo bug good
Also rama very hard lmao
Beo works great on both kbm and controller, Hera is generally better on controller too
Achilles is also very difficult
Mechanically
rose roost
still insane how it's the first sub 5
latent moon
185in kinda insane
loud shell
So my computer broke recently and I don't have the money to get a new one at the moment but then I'm told netflix mobile is gonna get it for free and I'm exited to compleatly start over again! Also I do wonder how dash atks will work
void vigil
dashing and attacking straight away, basically
it sometimes looks different so its easy to tell
undone tundra
hades mobile? 💀
void vigil
really showing myth: gods of asgard the what-for
wary iron
I cant believe how many keys I wasted because of my controller drift
stray shard
final plover
damn that felt good just jumped from heat 5 to heat 20 with sword and beat it on first try. trying to learn td3 and ls4 gonna be a grind for heat 32 tho
upper wolf
LC4 you mean ?
LC4 is easy, just use stubborn
td3 is... easy-ish
You need to learn how to not waste time, but once you do it's mostly irrelevant
Anyway, congrats on your clear ! You'll see it gets easier and easier
crimson rivet
heard hades is coming to mobile but only for ios 😭
also i heard u could play it thru netflix or smth?? idk if that part's true tho
latent moon
i mean it hasn't come out yet lmao
drowsy linden
damn that felt good just jumped from heat 5 to heat 20 with sword and beat it on...
hey, thats similar to me
i jumped from 10 to 32 on shield(and suffered a bit) because climbing heat 1 by 1 was just too slow
stone rune
sub5 grinding is insane
i just reset a 4:30 ely exit
back in february i would have killed a man for one shot at a 4:30 ely exit
and then gotten a 7:30 or something but
gilded geyser
how on earth is that even possible lol
stone rune
?
gilded geyser
do you just need to get like a few perfect boons that combine for massive damage and then a ridiculous amount of shops/exclamation mark rooms to run through
gilded geyser
damb
stone rune
just need decent boons and decent skips
lunar condor
Just got a notification from Netflix about Hades. Really gave me heart attack thinking they made a Hades show lol
latent moon
that's pretty easy
"oh yeah a 4:30 exit is pretty easy"
"i'm so garbage i got a 5:02"
latent moon
damb
dw a 4:30 ely exit is not an easy thing to do no matter what jazz says
if you know good build paths and get decent boon rng at the right times, then the biggest factor is just room rng
enemies rng and non-combats mainly
stone rune
well its like
430 ely exit is pace for usually high 53x to low-mid 54x
and there are like a quadrillion of those
i have 12 540-545 alone
latent moon
that doesn't speak for the rest of the community
also like
"a quadrillion of those" is mostly made up of like 3 people isn't it
stone rune
but i have no 538 or 539s apparently
latent moon
on the sheet ocke and kirrby make up a bunch of them afaik
stone rune
its like
latent moon
the sheet is mostly 20 people
stone rune
there are 296 runs from 540 to 545
stone rune
its like
ocke
kirrby
zyru
nnevic
vorime
cgull
yeezy and croven are in there
im in there
latent moon
you're just naming all the people who got 20 sub6s lmao
but i'm still not wrong
getting a 4:30 ely exit is not easy
latent moon
yeah after a couple hundred hours
and that's assuming they know what the meta is and even care about that
echo lily
How to get meg companian
latent moon
give meg nectar and ambrosia
oak lily
I mean once you pour enough into any roguelike it can feel that way after a while
final plover
LC4 is easy, just use stubborn
gotta unlock stubborn still 😄 I'm getting very little darkness atm since all my runs have been new bounties so far
stiff obsidian
Why do people play more speed than heat
final plover
Any tips for best companion to use for high heats or overall? atm I got battie maxed and been using that but wondering if theres someone better I should prioritize unlocking
stone rune
Any tips for best companion to use for high heats or overall? atm I got battie m...
meg
meg is all you ever need
stiff obsidian
Yes
stone rune
nothing comes remotely close
stone rune
Why do people play more speed than heat
more fun
stiff obsidian
Is it
stiff obsidian
The recognizability only comes because people play speed in the first place
final plover
ah kk so I picked a perfect one to max first
stone rune
speed has like
a lot more numbers to get
heat is an integer between 50 and 60 for 99% of people
stiff obsidian
Maybe
stone rune
if you screw up speed
you lose
some amount of time
if u screw up heat ur dead
and wasted the last 15 min of ur life
stiff obsidian
Speed is just the same build over and over
stone rune
not rlly
stiff obsidian
In heat ur forced into whatever u get
stiff obsidian
Much more praying for rng in speed
stone rune
heat goes from 0 rng to 100 rng real quick
stiff obsidian
In heat u just need like 2 main boons and 1 hammer and win
stiff obsidian
🤔🤔🤔
latent moon
i mean both are difficult for different reasons lmao
and both are enjoyable for different reasons
and fun is pretty subjective
stiff obsidian
Yea but there's a clear trend of more speed than heat
latent moon
like angel finds heat more fun than speedrunning because she finds speedrunning pretty dull
latent moon
Yea but there's a clear trend of more speed than heat
speed is just easier
stone rune
because more people think speed is fun than heat
it’s more accessible to start out in
latent moon
with speed you can have a crap build but good rng and get your goal and be done with it and not push any more
stone rune
you get a nice progression of pbs
latent moon
kinda same for heat but heat is more frustrating
because you dont finish the run if you dont do good at heat
stone rune
rather than heat which is a very limited number of notches
stiff obsidian
I guess heat is very time consuming
latent moon
it's a lot more time consuming and in my experience more frustrating
stiff obsidian
rather than heat which is a very limited number of notches
That's actually why I like it better lmao
More clearly defined goals
final plover
so on the wiki it says
" 7 hearts with one of the following: Megaera, Thanatos, Dusa, or Achilles
7 hearts with another of those, or with Skelly or Sisyphus
4 hearts with Hades"
to be able to use companions against hades and I have 7 hearts with meg, skelly and 5 with hades and last run I still wasnt able to summon anything against hades, is there anything else I need to do?
stiff obsidian
Those are huge jumps
latent moon
so on the wiki it says
" 7 hearts with one of the following: Megaera, Thanat...
no, just have meg's companion and sisyphyus or skelly's companion unlocked and whatever else was in there
stone rune
it’s just skill
stiff obsidian
And how many people have a sub6
stone rune
a lot
stiff obsidian
Yea lol
glacial storm
I wonder how I can get Zagreus’ voice actor to say uwu in zag’s voice
latent moon
i dont even think my run is on the sheet actually lmao
stone rune
it is
stiff obsidian
so on the wiki it says
" 7 hearts with one of the following: Megaera, Thanat...
He will grant u permission at home when u talk to him but u have to ask others for how
latent moon
i swear it was there at some point
i've never requested it to be added or was like "sheet" in any of my messages
stone rune
well rn there are 59 people on the sheet
latent moon
i mean the question was speedrunning as a whole not specifically the community
stone rune
well like
latent moon
more people go for sub10 than like past 32
stone rune
the community is just
all the people who play speed
there are very few people who have sub6d without being in the discord
latent moon
there's probably a good chunk of people out there with sub10s that dont interact with the discord at all
latent moon
there are very few people who have sub6d without being in the discord
i didn't say sub6 i said sub10
stone rune
oh if we’re talking sub10
latent moon
which is like the benchmark for speedrunning
stone rune
yeah that’s like 100000 people
latent moon
exactly
if you dont care for speed then sub10 is a pretty good goal
and like
the average player probably gets like a 12-15 min run
and they maybe get 32 heat
but more people are willing to sub10 than like go past 32 heat
stiff obsidian
I think 32 before sub15
latent moon
i guess technically 32 heat is the benchmark for high heat
but more people are willing to push their times down rather than increase heat
mostly because they found 32 heat incredibly difficult and dont want to go higher than that
stiff obsidian
I guess there is the reasoning that since you play speed at low heat it's 'easier'
open crater
Bruh, I literally can't play more than one run at a time, my hand hurts too much to do more 😫
Sucks coz I really enjoy playing
void vigil
I get pretty tired after only one run so I feel you
it’s a rare occasion when I play two runs in a row bc I just don’t have the energy for it
latent moon
I guess there is the reasoning that since you play speed at low heat it's 'easie...
yeah definitely lmao
it's a lower entry bar
you can kinda just take whatever build you like the most and get pretty decent results with it
void vigil
I would like to speedrun but the amount of minute things to learn is a lot
latent moon
also big mood on not being able to play more than 1 or 2 runs in one sitting lmao i dont have the mental fortitude for more than 3
latent moon
I would like to speedrun but the amount of minute things to learn is a lot
i mean it mostly depends on how low of a time you want to get
void vigil
like knowing the layouts so well that you end up closest to the exit when you finish combat is beyond me lol
stone rune
just learn megs and from there it’s all practice
latent moon
if you have a good build, mirror, and pact then sub10 is pretty achievable
oh yeah megs i guess
jagged hamlet
Just be bad like jazz and you too can sub 6 a million times over!
latent moon
like knowing the layouts so well that you end up closest to the exit when you fi...
ngl you dont exactly need that for sub10
thing is, the idea of having to do that already puts you at a pretty decent advantage since you can kinda try for that if you think you can
but you dont have to
i didn't learn the layouts or whatever and i still dont know them that wel lmao
standing in any corner will do the trick, even if it's by the entrance
the lower you go the more strict you have to be but like i said it just depends on what your speedrunning goal is
void vigil
yeah I see that
void vigil
Maybe I’m just too lazy to do fast runs again bc it’s intense and my average IGT nowadays is 20+ mins
stone rune
decision making
latent moon
fair lmao
latent moon
it’s all practice till about sub6
i feel like spawn manips are kidna important starting sub7
latent moon
maybe sub8 but it's more loose on that end
latent moon
same
latent moon
but also like the idea of standing in any corner kinda goes a long way lmao
might not be the right corner but it did something lol
but also given enough rng you can kinda get away with not manipping for sub7
latent moon
given enough rng, you can kinda get away with a lot of stuff lmao
tepid light
man, y'all are fast af
latent moon
even if you dont have the technical skill to consistently pull it off
stone rune
u can sub530 while sucking lol
latent moon
like i sure as hell dont have the technical skill to usb6 consistently but i have one somehow lmao
latent moon
i almost get sub530 lmao
which kinda reinforces the "given enough rng" thingy
sub1 aspho goes kinda hard
and i think it was a pretty average ely-dad for a sub6
kinda just made up the time from a 2 min tart
latent moon
man, y'all are fast af
what speedrunning does to a mf
stone rune
u can get away with sub6 just from a 140 120 140 11x
like none of the splits need to be good
they just need to be passable
stone rune
hmmmm
latent moon
if you have a crap biome something else has gotta make up for it
tepid light
what speedrunning does to a mf
i bet you guys can't beat my sub 40
latent moon
40 min run?
tepid light
yeah, i'm a regular speed demon
latent moon
dont tempt me into a 50 heat td0 run to hit that timer
tepid light
do it u wont
tepid light
take em4 like a man
latent moon
might have to take ri and cp2
tepid light
fists or nothing
tepid light
you can use shield but it has to be chaos or zag
tepid light
no beowulf under any circumstance, makes things too easy
tepid light
it's not like you can just ask for charged shot and get it
stone rune
it's not like you can just ask for charged shot and get it
worked for me
tepid light
worked for me
stone rune
sounds like u need to get a better hammer dealer
tepid light
sounds like u need to get a better hammer dealer
i'll hammer ur face
latent moon
no beowulf under any circumstance, makes things too easy
dc2 doesn't make things easy for beo on the other hand
latent moon
and flare iframe bug doesnt make em4 easy
latent moon
just do hestia
50 heat td0?
stone rune
sure
latent moon
on anyheat hestia i get wacked around too much in dad fight
stone rune
or eris or something
latent moon
idk i need to take 6 heat from something from my normal 50 pact
7 actually because no pl
em4 ri cp2 i guess
actually my math is bad hold on
stone rune
just turn on hell mode in modpack
latent moon
but i wanna do it on my unmodded save
void vigil
Free heat (until you hug dad wrong and he lasers you for over half your health)
latent moon
i dont have a hell mode save
lmao true
alright gang ri2 or ap2 lmao
gotta be ri2
to be fair
this is basically just my cursed chaos pact
stone rune
nice cp2 em4
latent moon
but on SD
stone rune
id just do ap2 cp0 js2
latent moon
so realistically
tepid light
nice cp2 em4
hey it's what i always run anyway
latent moon
i need to git gud at dad fight
and not get ran over by like
spreader seeker witches in aspho
tepid light
that forced overtime 3 gonna take some getting used to though
tepid light
oh whoops
latent moon
oh i should do the 99 heat mod for this instead lmao
tepid light
i can't math either
autumn rose
if u think about it
forced overtime 2 is just regular speed but everyone has the heroic hermes speed bonuses
woah..
devout terrace
heady monolith
Guys how to get the epilogue? 83 escape attempts and somehow I'm not there yet
mint coral
Do you have the queen's plan prophecy yet
heady monolith
It says grow closer to olympians but all of them are on the locked heart
Don't know when it'll unlock
mint coral
There it is
heady monolith
Aphro comes when thanatos becomes gay that i know
But he isn't letting me give anymore gifts
mint coral
A few of them have their unlock told by prophecies
Ares is the 10k kills quest
heady monolith
Idk about artemis ares dio demeter
mint coral
Pos is catching 18 fish then talk to him again with a fish on hand
Demeter counts at the lock
heady monolith
A few of them have their unlock told by prophecies
Ares is the 10k kills quest
I already finished that
mint coral
Her favor is the epilogue
heady monolith
Oh
mint coral
Hermes is talk to him with 3* plume
heady monolith
I mentioned the ones i haven't finished
mint coral
10 ambrosia across all characters
heady monolith
Oh
Pretty sure i already did that seeing how expensive snake one was
Forgot her name
mint coral
Dusa
heady monolith
Yeah
mint coral
And yeah she alone covers the 10 ambrosia
Due to how the dialogue system works it may take some runs for the locks to unlock after the favor
heady monolith
I've yet to unlock hypnos heart for some reason
mint coral
Could just suicide reset and use ares/dio keepsake
mint coral
I've yet to unlock hypnos heart for some reason
Oh you aren't gonna like this one
It mainly requires conversations with Than
heady monolith
I kinda wanna wrap up the game since I'm at 41/49 achievements and haven't played the game for 2 weeks
I'd say after 83 escape attempts and more than 30 wins it's beginning to get stale
mint coral
And as you still have the lock there's a big chance most of the lock dialogue is prioritized before hypnos quest dialogue
heady monolith
Wanted to climb to 32heat legtimately but at that pace it's gonna take a couple of years
mint coral
I'd say after 83 escape attempts and more than 30 wins it's beginning to get sta...
Try to find another challenge tbh
Epilogue is kinda an rng feast for some characters
Wait how many gods you have maxed again? Or is everyone at lock
heady monolith
How to unlock the shield aspect
heady monolith
Wait how many gods you have maxed again? Or is everyone at lock
Everyone i haven't mentioned is done
mint coral
So that's 3 gods (zeus/pos/athena) + dem
Could legit just reset runs until ares and dio unlock theirs
heady monolith
Add hypnos to them and that's all of them +2 more hearts for than who no longer wants ambrosia
Ah... Forgot i have to max all keepsakes
That might take a while...
mint coral
Than is just keep talking to him
heady monolith
I'll show u my inventory and u be the judge
mint coral
Which is kinda a pain considering how he spawns lmao
heady monolith
Ever since i bought him a chair i don't think he showed up
mint coral
It'll happen soon™
mint coral
Just carry the keepsakes through all 5 styx tunnels
heady monolith
Oooo
mint coral
If you commit to Than's you could do it in like a run or two
mint coral
Good news for you
heady monolith
?
mint coral
You don't need to romance him
heady monolith
How else will i break the aprho lock
heady monolith
Ooo
nimble wren
He doesn't talk to me in encounters
Who
mint coral
Meg also has those 2 options
heady monolith
The "i like you no homo" approach
heady monolith
Meg also has those 2 options
Cant rmb ngl
I don't appreciate being whipped can i get the option again
mint coral
I don't appreciate being whipped can i get the option again
Nope
nimble wren
Thanatos? To talk to him you need to make more kills than him. There is an achievement too for making more than 15 kills than him
mint coral
Anyways for epilogue I suggest avoiding aphro lol unless you find Than and he decides to open the lock finally
mint coral
Thanatos? To talk to him you need to make more kills than him. There is an achie...
If it was just that we wouldn't get infinite posts about Than's qiest ngl
Is also the pain of him not showing up at the house or shen he does he could also be talking to someone else
Or he talks and is not his quest related dialogue 
stiff obsidian
is there something about having c1 chaos gate always with a key on the door?
rose roost
uhhh not really
I've had darkness and gods
never really pay attention to that tbh
also I wish egg made chaos gate a guaranteed spawn
like ixion
brisk trail
do I need to do something for dire snakestone
I never got to fight it
I can't complete the prophecy thing
rose roost
it's one of the mini-boss encounters in aspho
mint coral
Is that power couple
rose roost
yea
mint coral
Thought it was the styx crystal
rose roost
the laser ones are brimstones right?
mint coral
Not sure
rose roost
dire snake stone is aspho one
huh the styx one is also mentioned as snake stone in wiki
brisk trail
brimstone -> pink laser
voidstone -> blue invincible
snakestone -> green multilaser
rose roost
hmm yeah
sour fog
doomstone -> miniboss
rose roost
the mini boss in styx is just megagrogon
sour fog
a lot of different stones
rose roost
the mini boss in styx is just megagrogon
and head stimper aka power couple
sour fog
dire snake stone is aspho one
No dire snakestone is styx, the one where it does lasers in all directions
the purple one
mint coral
No dire snakestone is styx, the one where it does lasers in all directions
Yay I was right
rose roost
that one has the big brimstone
no that is void stone( you're talking the one with mm right?)
so many stones
mint coral
Are brimstone the small ones in tart then
rose roost
yea
mint coral
Hades 2: now with even more stones
ionic hemlock
Aspho has power couple, barge and witches
mint coral
Circle is fine lol
grand lotus
circle isnt hard its just annoying
mint coral
But for the answer is basically any tha speedrun modpack removes + anthony
grand lotus
at least for me
grand lotus
asterius is fine i hate the stupid butterfly ball
grand lotus
i mean when it comes to companions im very clearly biased lmfao
mint coral
Even with antos you still should break armor no
grand lotus
sorta
unless u time it super well + luck tho pat just hits one of the floating eyeball guys which is annoying
mint coral
Makes sense
nimble wren
The giant butterfly ball is cancer.
Asterius it's actually easy, and even gives you an advantage against Teseus, because Asterius will have less health
mint coral
Asterius is just a massive time loss vs B.Ball for me
Which is why I just removed him
nimble wren
The ball depends from the boons, but Asterius is always good to deal with
mint coral
I guess if your build is bad then yeah
But even an average build can deal with eyes fine imo
And also big difference on B
Ball with summons vs no summon
nimble wren
Aren't the eyes infinite? I did try to kill only the eyes, but they kept spawning
grand lotus
for me the biggest problem with the eyes is just running around and making sure they dont spawn while also trying to kill the ball
mint coral
You have to juggle between dmg to B.ball and the eyes yeah
Depending in the weapon that the eye goes to I just let them
Specially on high heat where I might wanna pop stubborn defiance
grand lotus
eh
sour fog
for me megagorgon is the most annoying
grand lotus
tbh powercouple is kinda fun
sour fog
I hate it
sour fog
on MM especially
grand lotus
unless u have mm, then its less fun
mint coral
Similar question
Most annoying miniboss but with MM
grand lotus
probably the barge or the witch circle
elysium only has 2 minibosses right
i feel like im forgetting ond
sour fog
what does MM do to witch circle even?
grand lotus
i forgor
mint coral
Some projectiles can't be destroyed by your weapon
sour fog
oh yeah
grand lotus
oh real
uncut meteor
so how many escapes do you guys have left?
sour fog
eh, imo circle is pretty much same then
mint coral
I can just nuke the crystal and be done
uncut meteor
im going for drunk bow rn, and have 8 escapes left
mint coral
Vs having to deal with the auto scroller
sour fog
what do you mean escapes left
grand lotus
so how many escapes do you guys have left?
until the epilogue?
uncut meteor
yeah
grand lotus
i finished the game lol
uncut meteor
im still finishing it
grand lotus
87 escapes 🙏🙏
uncut meteor
BRO
mint coral
I think 500+ escapes works for me
uncut meteor
i envy you, i had 40 escapes for my first murder
uncut meteor
also, are there any games that are similliar to hades greek mythology wise?
raw herald
hades 2
upper wolf
circle is fine with the meg strat or deflect
wait
discord, you idiot, you didn't go to the last message
rose roost
for some reason I only successfully meg'd witches only once and game said never again
I have to wait for a while then dash to the 3 witches and meg
nimble wren
Probably the witch circle is what I dislike as 2nd, but with 1 boon from Athena becomes very easy
rose roost
I wonder if there's a witches and bombers savestate for beo that I could practice
sour fog
do bolt boons apply to scintillating feast as well? like double strike for example
raw herald
Yeah
sour fog
ok thanks
gilded geyser
wtf hitting yourself with the zeus shield when recalling it triggers the artemis arrow boon lol
not when you're not recalling it tho lol
mint coral
I'm assuming explosive return
gilded geyser
nope
gilded geyser
u can't hit urself with ur own weapon tho
it doesn't do damage but seems to trigger it
osihgodihg idk how to screen record lol
i forget the name of it but my only hammer is the one that makes your special hitting enemies increaes attack damage
stone rune
its called the one that sucks
gilded geyser
yeaaaa
anyone know an easy to set up screen recorder 👀
or if windows has it like
built in
i mean i'm sure someone has noticed it in the past before :p still pretty cool tho
sour fog
both amd and nvidia have software for your GPU that should be able to record
void vigil
shieldbug 2
sour fog
for nvidia it's called gforce experience I think? for AMD it's adrenaline software
gilded geyser
o do i have to launch the game from the geforce experience thing to record or
wait hades lets u save i can quit and relaunch lolol
o dam i can't even upload it here :/
gilded geyser
well this worked at least lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LoylHYyuW4
standing doing nothing at the beginning is bc obs was being stinky and then stopped being stinky when i assumed it would keep doing so
oh wtf there's my clicking too lol i didn't know microphone was on
stiff obsidian
Lol wgat
latent moon
I'm pretty sure that's not possible if you don't have ichors lmao
Doesn't the disk move faster than your walking pace
gilded geyser
i didn't think soooo
cause sometimes i recall the shield and need to run towards it because i run away too fast
buttt i might have ichor lemme check
oh i have 2 lol
guess u rite
latent moon
cause sometimes i recall the shield and need to run towards it because i run awa...
Run or dash lol because you can definitely out dash the disk but not out walk it
gilded geyser
ya that's probably it cause im like always dashing almost :p
stone rune
is a 4sack actually 3 min
if a normal styx is 40
then double that would be 1:20
and then add a normal room is probably 30s
idek
undone tundra
is a 4sack actually 3 min
consider: im bad
stone rune
gg
raw herald
You’re just not the best in the world
(This is what jazz is comparing to)
undone tundra
id say im bad for the servers standard, looking at some people here :p
raw herald
Not at all
latent moon
The vast majority of players aren't speedrunners or high heaters lol
Jazz quite literally holds multiple records lol
old island
apparently theseus can die and leave his spear on the battlefield??
latent moon
Some of the more active people tend to be speedrunners or high heaters because they just play the game a lot more
old island
lmao
latent moon
Yeah
stone rune
apparently theseus can die and leave his spear on the battlefield??
dad can too
old island
dad can too
fun
latent mango
so Haelian just completed a blindfolded run... it was impressive
placid zenith
apparently theseus can die and leave his spear on the battlefield??
so can hades lol
gilded geyser
so Haelian just completed a blindfolded run... it was impressive
woahhh dam
i saw part of that before i had to go to class
i thought asphodel would be impossible lol
latent mango
woahhh dam
he lucked out and got sure footing pretty early on, once aspho was done, it was all smooth sailing
crystal star
Wassup gang
drowsy linden
so Haelian just completed a blindfolded run... it was impressive
well afk dad has been done, im kinda surprised it was this late
how exactly does zeus bug affect blocking, as in the impact
crystal star
Because
obsidian linden
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVn-xU6EJwI
no one talk about that ?
drowsy linden
afk run when
void vigil
i saw someone mention it earlier
jagged hamlet
Should've searched "Haelian" and "blindfold"!
drowsy linden
posting this here because #h1-builds-and-combat is dead:
i have an epic lightning strike(now level 2) and a triple bomb, which gods to take and what to do
stone rune
arty
wait
is this luci
or lucin't
if it's luci then arty
if it's lucin't then pos
drowsy linden
luci
drowsy linden
so keep attack or try for heart rend and later on get smair from zoos
this is pride btw
drowsy linden
ty, may your next run be blessed by the mirage shot
drowsy linden
rocket works witheris, right?
stone rune
yes
wispy sinew
How many hrs does everyone have on the game?
stone rune
i have like 1200
wispy sinew
@stone rune ok with you having 1200 what would you say is for still getting to know the game?
signal aspen
yeah shes still learning how to play this game
wispy sinew
@signal aspen who is she?
signal aspen
jazz
wispy sinew
I think you mis read what I was tryna say or I said terribly
I was asking him cuz 1200 alot what amount of hrs is still getting to know the game
I didn't mean that low hrs cuz definitely alot lol
stone rune
<@752689126448300033> ok with you having 1200 what would you say is for still ge...
i am still learning a lot of stuff
drowsy linden
i dash and then special, or try to engage and get hit
although this is ely, so its fine since ive got 10 minutes and 2 chambers completed
stone rune
i think i was comfortable with the basic stuff agter like 400
wispy sinew
Jesus man what u got left to learn 😆
stone rune
i suck at heat
and at speed for any aspect rhat isnt beo
i have 50 at like
6 aspects
beo achilles zagspear eris hestia rama
yea thats it
oh and zeus
wispy sinew
Well Damm man that's crazy most would think having in the thousands you know alot on the game
drowsy linden
dem or pos for eris clockets
stone rune
Well Damm man that's crazy most would think having in the thousands you know alo...
theres a lot to learn
drowsy linden
none
drowsy linden
already filled the pool with ares and zoos
stone rune
zeus special 
wispy sinew
dem or pos for eris clockets
What is a clocket?
drowsy linden
bugged so cluster bomb doesnt actually give the -30% damage, as if the combo needed the bug
stone rune
so it does 400 base damage up close
drowsy linden
the point of the build is that you have 5 rockets that each deal 80 damage, resulting in 400 damage. the intended damage is 250(still a lot), but funny 🐛
wispy sinew
It's been a minute since I played last cuz I completed the story fully and maxed relationships only thing I havnt completed was all heat and weapons
drowsy linden
100% when
wispy sinew
@drowsy linden yea I picked that up I'm liking it but damn it's hard 😆
drowsy linden
i saw 30% and autocorrected to thirty
wispy sinew
Idk if it's just me but that game is harder than hades
latent moon
dead cells ramps difficulty harder than hades imo
latent moon
dead cells is less forgiving in general compared to hades but i also have not cleared 1 bc and stopped playing for like 8 months or something lmao
stone rune
the base difficulty of hades is really easy once you have a reasonably filled mirror
but the high end is super hard
its a nice gradient that u can pick any number from
wispy sinew
dead cells ramps difficulty harder than hades imo
It's definitely hard but when I got to first boss almost got him first try now I can't get close cuz the drops not favoring me
latent moon
oh yeah dead cells doesn't have meta game upgrades does it
i think it kinda does but nowhere near the strength in hades
latent moon
dead cells enforces the idea of not getting hit more than hades earlier
stone rune
what do you think zag base power would be
like
not just 0 mirror or anything
i feel like theyd still give him the double dash for instance
but theres weird stuff that i dont think would work as a non meta progression thing
well the game would just be worse
latent moon
what do you think zag base power would be
earlier hermes and higher base damage stuff probably
and like they'd probably find a way to make stuff like fiery presence and dark foresight be items to pick up in runs or something
wispy sinew
I'm not sure but hades was my first game like this unless we guna count risk of rain too I think that counts but I put that game down quick cuz not used to it at time.
stone rune
oh yeah item pickups
i think it would be easier but for new players stuff is still hard
have you seen random people on twitch
latent moon
it might be similar to ravenswatch in terms of like upgrades except you'll be offered god boons and items instead of boons and blue laurels
drowsy linden
oh yeah dead cells doesn't have meta game upgrades does it
it has:
- FAR more unforgiving, as at higher levels youre essentially forced to either do hitless or use an unexplained mechanic thats hard to use(basically quick recovery)
- it has some metaprogression: shop rerolls, shop categories, the ability to sell(99% of your money), flasks(very important, its like if zag could bottle fountains), starting gold(cringe), forge(favor/pride but infinitely better), double forge upgrade(good for low level forge)
latent moon
oh yeah i remember that yeah
latent moon
i do especially remember it enforcing the idea of hitless a lot earlier tho
wispy sinew
I personally like it that and the dlc looks awesome not getting just yet tho @stone rune
latent moon
0bc is like, hey free healing at the end of the biome and you can store a healing potion or something
1bc is like, every other biome you get healing lmao
stone rune
hades would be so much worse if it tried to make you do hitless
cause the enemies aren't designed to always be 100% fair
latent moon
there's healing mid biomes and whatnot but it's a pretty drastic jump imo
stone rune
its possible to get hit when its not ur fault
latent moon
bp moment
drowsy linden
0bc is like, hey free healing at the end of the biome and you can store a healin...
every other biome you get a full heal and full flask charge
the flasks go like this:
0:1 fountain each biome
1: 1 fountain every other biome, in between is 1 flask
2: all flasks
3: 1 flask after each boss
4: no flasks
5: no flasks again
latent moon
yeah big pain
drowsy linden
you can have up to 4 flasks at a time
stone rune
i would just not need to heal
drowsy linden
each heals 60% health
wispy sinew
You guys got a favorite weapon in dead cells?
latent moon
i do remember beating 0bc in like 3-5 runs or something and i thought "oh this isn't too bad" and then i'm getting shafted at 1bc lmfao
drowsy linden
You guys got a favorite weapon in dead cells?
heavy crossbow
latent moon
You guys got a favorite weapon in dead cells?
haven't played in ages but i do remember liking the giant double bladed sword
wispy sinew
Dude yes need to beat it
latent moon
i haven't played celeste in ages either because farewell is balls
stone rune
i beat 8a and thats as far as i went
drowsy linden
i do remember beating 0bc in like 3-5 runs or something and i thought "oh this i...
dont worry, you have yet to experience true pain in the qats dlc
they add 2 bosses back to back, and the first one is harder than the second
wispy sinew
i bought most of the dlcs iirc lmao
Are all them worth it? I wana get castlevania one but not sure on others
drowsy linden
first boss of queen dlc is so funny
they give you a reward for beating the boss in under 5 minutes
drowsy linden
Are all them worth it? I wana get castlevania one but not sure on others
fatal falls 💯
latent moon
Are all them worth it? I wana get castlevania one but not sure on others
ngl i dont even know what the dlcs are i just bought them and started playing
so idk if the areas i go into are dlc or not
stone rune
?
drowsy linden
So definitely worth getting all?
theyre all good imo
but if you want complete gameplay value and not just more dead cells content, get other games(this is true for pretty much every dlc in existence)
wispy sinew
Ok what should I play after dead cell?
drowsy linden
yes(hollow knight)
wispy sinew
I played a little of that while go gotta beat it will do next
weary gorge
Is there any hope of hades on android? I HATE EXCLUSIVITY 😭
stone rune
probably not
dawn night
anyone know the best people to give nectar to?
stone rune
you want to get keepsakes from the gods, charon, eurydice first
if you see a god you haven't given nectar to yet in a run just give them one
yea
weary gorge
ios and android are 2 ENTIRELY different OS. It's impossible to convert cause the versions are not the same at all
dawn night
u can pirate switch games onto pc....
weary gorge
u can pirate switch games onto pc....
That's an emulator also there are NO ios emulators
dawn night
oh
weary gorge
Do tell which ones u know that work
astral quest
Zeus for multi hitting enemies
astral quest
Artemis, Zeus, and Hammers are my favorite boons
stone rune
hmmmm
stone rune
stiff obsidian
any spedrunner
stone rune
any spedrunner
no
stiff obsidian
oh
stone rune
u cant speedrun this game, it is too rng. its basiclaly just rolling the lottery tbh, i dont see why anyone pretends that their brand new pb has anything to do with skill. ive seen some people play with cheats on but ur literlaly just hacking atp with a completely different version of the game. all these “speedrunners” are just glorified slots players
stiff obsidian
stone rune
its literally a roguelike ur defeating the whole purpose.
stone rune
no
on achilles just reset on bad hermes
but like
u have a call and no rolls
if u want to, take a big coin or something
stiff obsidian
on achilles just reset on bad hermes
for sub8 anything should work
stiff obsidian
i should give up on all aspect sub8 its way too hard
stiff obsidian
if i can barely do achilles
stone rune
the mildly difficult ones are just the real stinkers
stiff obsidian
how am i doing literally anything else
latent moon
if i can barely do achilles
achilles is kinda hard tbf
stiff obsidian
yea but barely
latent moon
should be a pretty good sub8, esp with splitting
stone rune
well ur build sucks
stiff obsidian
i mean it took a lot of tries
latent moon
might be close yeah but doable
stone rune
thats to he expecged
latent moon
sell dying lament maybe lmao
stone rune
the time isnt gonna be perfect if ur build is trash
latent moon
or keep it to deal with rat rooms slighty better lmao
stone rune
keep dying lament 100%