#h1-discussion

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stone rune
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i’m not that good at achilles

latent moon
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bruh

jagged hamlet
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jazz "I suck at the game" enjoyer

latent moon
stone rune
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the only mechanical improvement i’ve made in the like months i’ve played it is not holding mouse1 for too long after the dash strikes

latent moon
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yeah and we're just gonna ignore the sub7 part huh

stone rune
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i mean it’s just a sub7

latent moon
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you do realize a small portion of the people who play the game has a sub10 right

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and way fewer of them has a sub7

stone rune
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get one

jagged hamlet
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A me with a broken Eris seed can barely squeak the 8 min mark LOL

latent moon
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the people who have a sub7 in this game are in speedcord or maybe here

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and not everyone joins the discord

stone rune
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do the things i told u in the vod review

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sub7 instantly

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and also learn ur megs

latent moon
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also by extension you're just calling almost everyone garbage at the game by saying "it's just a sub7" lmao

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which frankly is not a great thing

jagged hamlet
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Agreed. I physically like can't play that quickly

stone rune
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do u have bombers

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u just gotta learn the area u have to click

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it’s very lenient

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but there’s no tell for it

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it’s kinda just like a spot

latent moon
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if you're playing a shield you can scuff it somewhat decently and get decent results sometimes

stone rune
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oh

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i do like

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50-70

latent moon
stone rune
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i do not go outside

latent moon
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(this strat is unreliable)

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but it is kinda funny

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timestamped

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it's pretty funny tho ngl

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i saw i think ocke do it as recovery

jagged hamlet
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Outside is indeed really nice. I miss it dearly

latent moon
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and i just thought "yeah this sounds like something i can do" and proceeded to do it every time and fail half the time

stone rune
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i did go camping for my birthday

latent moon
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but yeah jazz you gotta stop calling yourself "garbage" at the game

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your achievements aren't something the majority of the player base aims to get

jagged hamlet
stone rune
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i do that

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but i also play a lot of hades

latent moon
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tbf i could make time to play more hades but i just mentally cannot play hades for more than 2 runs a session

stone rune
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hades is the only game i have played more than 30 hours of in this entire year i think

jagged hamlet
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You're right. It gets pretty dull pretty quickly and precludes me getting to other good seeds sooner

latent moon
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tbf the seed eventually splits off

stone rune
latent moon
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but yeah you should just do more seeds

stone rune
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all of my sessions are 30m to 2 hours

latent moon
stone rune
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i just do like

latent moon
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it's just that i mentally cannot do more lmao

stone rune
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4 to 6 sessions a day

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in between assignments

jagged hamlet
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Esp with schoool wow

stone rune
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i do

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it’s online and on college schedule

jagged hamlet
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jazz is genius student 😮

stone rune
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8 to 1:30 on m/w 9:45 to 1;30 on t/r

latent moon
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college schedule gives you a good chunk of free time if you plan good

stone rune
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3 classes m/w 2 t/r

latent moon
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my tuesdays and fridays are straight up free days

stone rune
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i also do not plan good

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i play much less hades on friday because that’s the day everything is due

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i used to hit 80 during summer

latent moon
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7 hours a day, 5 sessions a day

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tbh it's like not impossible lmao

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i could probably get close if i had enough mental fortitude for hades

jagged hamlet
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Dems SpaceX hours

latent moon
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i mean it's across 5 sessions

stone rune
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but yeah every friday i have like a long calc 3 assignment and like 3 physics things and an essay and whatever

latent moon
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so like 2 or 3 runs at a time?

stone rune
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that i hadn’t worked on all week

latent moon
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eh

stone rune
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because i was playing hades

latent moon
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it's a lot more leniency

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oh now that's an issue

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rta time go crazy

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but yeah jazz do your hw

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yeah i have lmao

stone rune
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i wish that run i went to mcdonald’s in the middle of was the sub6

stone rune
latent moon
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stop cramming it on friday smh

jagged hamlet
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jazz is probably one of those kiddos that just gets everything ASAP

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shakes fist at jazz

latent moon
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what year are you in jazz btw lmao

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for college

stone rune
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i’m a sophomore in high school

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but the school has college schedule

latent moon
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oh i thought you were in college lmao

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wack

jagged hamlet
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YOU'RE IN HIGH SCHOOL and can still play that much

latent moon
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yeah this is starting to make sense lmao

jagged hamlet
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No wonder you're so fast

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Literal. Baby.

latent moon
stone rune
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im not moving to reno for this school so i do the online version

latent moon
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but yeah literal baby

jagged hamlet
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Babies everywhere help

latent moon
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no clue

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haven't talked to her much

stone rune
latent moon
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but i do remember her saying she was a minor when she was doing all 50s

stone rune
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massive losers

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can’t even walk good

latent moon
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that's what dashing is for

stone rune
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i can walk perfectly

jagged hamlet
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Oh my gosh I'm integer multiples of jazz's age help

stone rune
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take that babies

latent moon
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jazz go to sleep

jagged hamlet
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jazz take a nap

stone rune
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it’s literally 10

latent moon
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exactly

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i unironically have to sleep soon even tho it's also 10 here because i have to wake up at 5 lmao

jagged hamlet
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Goodness

stone rune
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i have to wake up at 7

latent moon
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shush i'm getting 150 bucks

stone rune
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i used to have to wake up at 5:30

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that was crazy

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i don’t get why they had the bus get to the stop so early

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only for us to get to school 30 min early

latent moon
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bus prob had other routes

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and other schools

jagged hamlet
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Fewer bus fewer route less money!

stone rune
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there were a total of 3 people on when we got on

latent moon
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oh festive

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yeah idk what's going on here

stone rune
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but yeah school started at 7:20 and the bus arrived at the stop at 6:08

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and we got to school by like

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6:50

latent moon
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god 7:20 is egregiously early

stone rune
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but the stop they assigned me was like

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2 miles walk away

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so i had to be driven

latent moon
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bruh lmao

stone rune
jagged hamlet
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That's a solid bike commute

stone rune
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i can’t go back to that district tho

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they think i’m a senior rn

latent moon
jagged hamlet
latent moon
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or like later at least

stone rune
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idk man ccsd is a little loopy

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they also made the cutoff august 8

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this year

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instead of oct 1

jagged hamlet
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Going somewhat back on topic though, I seriously can't get kewl speedrun times. I stand in corners to direct spawns, try to kill as efficiently as possible, reset until I get many free rooms and 2-sack, try to build (need to work on pomming more efficiently and purging), and my absolute best time is like 8:00.47

latent moon
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the only part here is just like enemy rng

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and also like

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are you sure it's as efficient as possible lmao

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are you optimizing shield throws, casts, cshots, etc

jagged hamlet
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I'm trying my darnest to group up and line up

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I guess I could try making another VOD when my illness lets up a bit

latent moon
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getting a vod review from people in speedcord will def help

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they'll optimize stuff a whole lot for you lmao

stone rune
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there’s always improvements to make

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usually a lot

latent moon
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yeah some stuff you can't control, like room, enemy, and boon rng

jagged hamlet
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I suspect my inputs are a bit slow and spazzy at times, and that's where I'm losing significant time

latent moon
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but you can definitely make the most of it by clean gameplay

jagged hamlet
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I might literally just be physically limited though. Am pretty sick

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Meanwhile jazz is like "7 mins garbaaaaaage" LOL

latent moon
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lmfao

stone rune
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ur playing unm tho

jagged hamlet
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True. Always seem to get a barge or a bull or a Tony

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Plus FO1 over FO2 is probably costing me around 30s

latent moon
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oh yeah take fo2

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that would've given you a sub8 lol

jagged hamlet
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Y'know what? I'm faster than Darren Korb, and I think that's pretty kewl

latent moon
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lmfao maybe he improved his time

jagged hamlet
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I'm honestly pretty chuffed with sub 10s 😄

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Maybe! thanthink

jagged hamlet
latent moon
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yeah there's a lot of stuff to improve lmao

jagged hamlet
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For sure for sure

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Just need to steal some youthful energy

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Then we'll be in business

jagged hamlet
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Wheeew. Hundreds of runs in Hades, yet listening to the OST by itself for the first time (via FLAC!): goosebumps

jagged hamlet
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Egad Mr. Korb sounds even more dulcet in FLAC

stiff obsidian
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Archers summon suck balls

upper wolf
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gigarchers. Archads. idk

halcyon girder
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FINALLY I BEATED 32 heat I thought I was gonna die early cuz I was using the last aspect of the sword

stone rune
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gg

stone rune
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i died in dad to one that did 53 damage

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when my sd was 51

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in speedrun

halcyon girder
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Now to get that statue

upper wolf
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Arg, had a great beo run but died on heroes because my computer suddenly decided to go into powerpoint mode

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I really need to clean it up

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The amount of dust is probably mindboggling zagsad

runic jungle
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Can't believe I've been sleeping on the spear for as long as I have lol.
Hades spear is so fun
It's basically just spin attack all day everyday.
I want to try out different aspects of the fists next

stone rune
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try achilles

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its basically hades but good

runic jungle
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I tried that one didn't like it nearly as much as I'm liking hades

upper wolf
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you shouldn't spam spins on hades

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the debuff doesn't work for subsequent spins

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only specials and basic strikes

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yeah, hades spin is technically a bit buffed by having a larger AOE but like

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150% damage is pretty good y'know

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might as well use it

stiff obsidian
torn phoenix
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Achilles spear has to be my favourite aspect

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so much fun

leaden belfry
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what are some good mods

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for Hades

stone rune
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speedrun modpack

latent moon
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Olympus extra has 3 new gods it adds

mint coral
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Oh it got a 3rd one?

knotty glacier
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but tbh i found it kinda mid

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i only like apollo's aid, its imbalanced

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it just burns through bosses hp

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arty's duo with apollo's aid + athena's starting god gauge % worked rly well for the temple

mint coral
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Apollo's kit looks funny from the few screenshots I've seen

leaden belfry
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whats speedrun mkdlacj

runic jungle
mint coral
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Gods offer the 4 core boons at the start/first hammer of your choice/fountain indicator/first boon isn't affected by ap2

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And styx sack is always at 2nd tunnel to name a few

latent moon
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Idk if they have it for the new one yet

leaden belfry
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Okay doaky

stone rune
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man

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achilles sucks

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who even plays this thing

leaden belfry
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achilles us the best

stone rune
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it took like

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4+ rotations to phase in p1

runic jungle
knotty glacier
rose jacinth
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I finally beat Hades!

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And Hades (but 1 heat)

knotty glacier
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congrats, which weap do you prefer

stone rune
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runcontrol is out

mint coral
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Oh woah

crystal star
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It says unknown

mint coral
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Speedrun server

ionic hemlock
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This

unborn skiff
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hi guys

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its a emergency

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i was looking for "Dusa" card on steam to do badge but its unavailable on markert, how is it possible?

rigid lynx
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I'm trying to sync my switch save files with my epic game files, but I have more progress on my switch. Will syncing to epic overwrite my current data? Making me nervous as to which one it will overwrite

void vigil
unborn skiff
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when i clicked on “see the offers” idk how is it in english it tells me no result

rose jacinth
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me when gods decide to give me every boon except the one I want/need

runic jungle
drowsy linden
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does skelly tooth count as a dd for ares and athena boons

rose jacinth
drowsy linden
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:widecharon3:

rose jacinth
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I did a demeter run and spent like 4 minutes on asterius alone because I never got the thing that makes chill do damage at max stacks lol

drowsy linden
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art legendary in a nutshell

rose jacinth
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also having ten arrows on aspect of chiron makes demeter pretty silly lol

stone rune
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you have 8

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or 12 with relentless

rose jacinth
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yeah but mine isn’t leveled all the way so…

stone rune
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oh

rose jacinth
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only ten for now

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(with relentless)

drowsy linden
rose jacinth
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what’s the most repetitive weapon to play and why is it coronacht?

drowsy linden
rose jacinth
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oh right the shield exists

mint coral
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Repetitive in what sense anyways

rose jacinth
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i mean every time I play coronacht I end up playing one of like three builds with slightly different miscellaneous boons that provide little to nothing to the build

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probably a me problem though tbh

runic jungle
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I've actually grown to like it lol
If used correctly it can do decent enough damage against mobs and the fury sisters.
And even hyrda

frosty bluff
mint coral
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Arte/dem/ares then pos for you?

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Idk how you rank them

stone rune
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wherever arty goes aph goes

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dem goes under pos because pos has uses in heat

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u can clear out pots with it and go away from dad

mint coral
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How much dmg its actually doing

stone rune
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it has 40 dps

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both fine

mint coral
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Zag spear

stone rune
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Grue

runic jungle
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Meh I prefer his call over Athena and Artemis call
I find it fun to use 🤷‍♂️

mint coral
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Athena-pos calls share the middle spot for me

runic jungle
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It does fine enough for me

ionic hemlock
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Was doing 40 heat and chaos spoke about expecting my death when I died

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I never knew chaos did that

coral kite
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Yo uhh the first time I realised I could give ||hades nectar I did but then I couldn’t talk to him after ||am I missing out on important dialogue?

jagged hamlet
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No. Sometimes gifting cancels out speech

runic jungle
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First time using the apollo mod and I freaking love his voice sm lol.
I wished I knew about mods sooner there's some really good ones for hades that would have been a game changer earlier

coral kite
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Whenbzag is in styx and says could check the passageways before I go and I’ve found the sack is that a hint that I should check the other passageways?

jagged hamlet
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Not really. Just stating possibilities

sick mortar
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question

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been trying to do a boonless run but everytime in styx

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i clear the boon rooms first, go into the other 2/3 tunnels

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and zero selling fountain

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its been this way for.... 4 attempts already

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is this normal?

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is there some way to increase the odds of it spawning? like putting the sell boon per level punishment on?

formal orbit
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just don't go into boon tunnel

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used Fated Authority if needed

formal orbit
sick mortar
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huh. i heard the "right" way was to do boon tunnels first so yhou can sell them later if the bag's in tunnel 3-5

formal orbit
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instead of gambling like that, just use fated authority

upper wolf
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something like 54% for a 2sack iirc ?

silver drum
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So while Charon kicked my ass at first

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He seems like one of the easiest bosses

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Once you know to dodge into his wide swings instead of going away

silver drum
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Then I start doing the hard ones

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Because this way there's a chance of a final chamber in one of them being cancelled

formal orbit
silver drum
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Dad has 2-3 phases

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Well technically so does shop man

formal orbit
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have you try extreme measure lernie

silver drum
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Yea

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Lernie has got to be the easiest boss

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I never died to him ever

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I have no idea what hynos even says if you die to him

formal orbit
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at low heat yeah, he's a pain in high heat

silver drum
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Oh I don't think I ever went higher heat than uhh 15-20

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Most of my high heat is just from max extreme measures

formal orbit
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stick with what you comfortable but charon is never easy

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especially with Force Overtime

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die to him is very common

silver drum
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What did that do again?

formal orbit
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make everything go fast

silver drum
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Oh never tried that

formal orbit
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FO2 with asterius em3 charge is eye opening

silver drum
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Shield it ig

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All I got

formal orbit
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playing with shield trivialize a lot of attack

void vigil
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i tried playing beowulf yesterday. it felt like a different game. i only used it once or twice, and havent used shield in at least 150 completed runs. i barely won lol, used every death defiance and had very little hp left

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skill issue if i may say so myself

last veldt
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Beo is my go to high heat weapon. Just avoid the casts which don't work well with it.

stiff obsidian
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funny explosion square

mint coral
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Nice square

upper wolf
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hades.png

upper wolf
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Tiny vermin is pretty harsh, but all others are easier than the common rooms

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Styx common rooms be like

runic jungle
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It's funny bc tiny vermin isn't even that bad
It's those annoying asf bigger rats
My biggest issue with the last stretch of the game is getting the poison cured quick enough lol.
Hades really should do something about the rat problem ngl

upper wolf
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He does something

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He sends zag

mint coral
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And they just come back anyways

upper wolf
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Imagine After your 100th run Styx is just empty lol

tepid light
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Gonna play Hades again, gimme a random aspect

upper wolf
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NGL I'm not even sure people would complain

tepid light
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Anything except Guan Yu

upper wolf
tepid light
autumn rose
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If god mode was used on a escape attempt does it mention it anywhere

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Like in the records

tepid light
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Well that went poorly

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I'm rusty af

raw herald
tepid light
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Gimme another aspect

raw herald
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Arthur

tepid light
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Gotcha

tepid light
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Almost got dad, but got too anxious

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Arthur as fun as always though

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Gimme another aspect

formal orbit
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gilga

tepid light
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Sure why not

tepid light
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One word: ow

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AND ANOTHA ONE

mint coral
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Just do an all aspects run at this rate

tepid light
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I switch aspects every run anyway

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It's how I keep the game fresh for myself

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Now gimme another aspect

hardy spear
tepid light
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Oh boy, haven't run a zag aspect in a hot minute

inner tinsel
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Hey all, absolute noob Q here from someone with a few hundred hours in the game.. can anyone suggest why I literally haven't seen Orpheus once in my new game (hell mode), after 27 attempts/13 escapes? I started my first file when the game was new so I don't remember but isn't he sometimes in that chair right from the start, or is there some simple condition required first which I've neglected? I did just buy the list of prophecies recently as I forgot how useful it actually is (rewards), so I dunno if I'm missing something with the contractor but I can't think of what it is

mint coral
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Did you buy the work order that releases him?

knotty glacier
inner tinsel
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Oh okay cool. I'll just chill and wait for him then, thanks

knotty glacier
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well as stated above its a contractor thing after you speak with dad

mint coral
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Remember that Hades has Orpheus sealed/imprisoned at the start

inner tinsel
mint coral
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Ypu probably advanced the story too quick so the dialogue is focusing on that

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And the dialogue related to Orpheus is being pushed back

inner tinsel
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Ah okay gotcha. I think that's it yeah, you're right

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I first escaped on 9 and I'm on a streak of like 14 now so yeah

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Triggering too much story first. Thanks!

mint coral
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Yeah that's gonna delay lots of dialogues lol

inner tinsel
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lol yeah for sure. nothing to worry about then. patience is key yet again. tyvm

rose ibex
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guys

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how does skelly tooth work with stubborn defiance

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(idk if I said the right name for the second one but its the opposite of death defiance

mint coral
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Skelly's defiance will always go last no matter what

rose ibex
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oh so if I lose stubborn but dont lose skelly it still goes to the next room?

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cool

mint coral
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Death defiance/Chaos defiance boon/etc

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And yup

rose ibex
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cause I think I need it for the 32 heat on elysium

mint coral
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You can do the same with athena boons

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Acorn (Eurydice's keepsake) is better than tooth

rose ibex
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for elysium?

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it makes sense now that i think of it

mint coral
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Now you'll have a defiance from athena and next room stubborn is back

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Can get 2 DDs from athena doing this

coral kite
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||Ok so uhhh I wanna piss Theseus off with the yarn
I beat the game already several times but I haven’t had the feast
If I buy the yarn now (I’m in the staircase from asphodel going into Elysium now) will it successfully taunt him?||

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Spoilers! In my question

mint coral
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Just that you have it when fighting Theseus

sly marlin
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just got the ending, what else can I do now?

mint coral
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Work on the epilogue/finish any other character relationship/start playing for bounties/speedrun

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Or take a break and come back for a run or 2 later

sly marlin
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Epilogue?

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Oh I have this game rented from my library lul

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So I only have limited time to play

mint coral
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Having Persephone come back home is the credits

sly marlin
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Shouldn't you spoiler that btw?

mint coral
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After that you can have an epilogue finishing up some stuff for that

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This channel doesn't

wary iron
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This isn’t for new players

mint coral
sly marlin
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Oh mb

mint coral
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Lol

sly marlin
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Didn't notice i was in the wrong channel

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Lol

mint coral
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Works better this way

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Not really so new

sly marlin
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I have 23 runs so idk

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Don't know how much content this game has lol

mint coral
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At least story wise

coral kite
mint coral
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I suggest going for other character plots (think Orpheus/achilles/Sysiphus)

mint coral
sly marlin
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Alright

mint coral
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Ypu could carry it from tart and it'll count

coral kite
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Like tons

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Especially with like characters and weapons and runs and stuff it’s a lot of content

sly marlin
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What

wary iron
sly marlin
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Bro I hate this bot

mint coral
coral kite
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Honestly I’m just playin the game having fun

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Waiting for Meg to show up in the house so I can feed her nectar

sly marlin
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How much nectar do I need to give before I can give ambrosia?

mint coral
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5 I think?

sly marlin
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I have more ambrosia than nectar lol

coral kite
mint coral
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Check the codex yo see if you reach the locked heart

wary iron
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Depends I think, just give them whenever you can and finish off with ambrosia

mint coral
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After that you need to do a favor for them to open that lock and then gift ambrosia

coral kite
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I’m unlucky with the npcs showing up

sly marlin
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Also, someone told me I needed to reach the true ending to give hades nectar, but I can't. Do I need to do another run (havent done any since I reached that)

mint coral
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Yeah need more runs

coral kite
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After my like third time beating him

mint coral
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Credits is the requisite but the lock requires an extra convo

sly marlin
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Swag okay thanks

upper wolf
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ok, trying charon in tartarus on 32 heat because you have just flurry slash and epic swift attack is not enough

tepid light
latent moon
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It's also just not a great combo to begin with lmao

short glen
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How do strong drink and the pact punishment that reduces healing interact? My gut instinct tells me it doesn't affect it's auto full heal until max level where it ceases to heal at all like the rest of the healing sources.

upper wolf
upper wolf
latent moon
upper wolf
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you still get the damage bonus though, so it's still a damn good boon

short glen
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strong drink is hilarious when you get it super super early. Guaranteed +12% minimum with an epic level if you get it during tart. I'm sure you already knew that but it's super funny when that happens

latent moon
#

Also purgable and unpommable so it's honestly not a bad pick lmao

short glen
#

dio has lots of fun boons, it's just a shame his core boons pair incredibly poorly with each other. Cause the hangover damage replaces itself in that scenario, you know?

stone rune
#

it’s 20 min

#

epic 5% each

#

rare 4 common 3

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in any decent run it’ll be more

#

cause you got the skips

tepid light
#

Similar question, does Last Stand affect Lucky Tooth

stone rune
#

it will refill the slot with a dd

#

the dd goes away if you unequip the tooth

tepid light
#

Even if you've already lost some DD's?

#

I'm talking about the healing amount

#

Or does it replace lucky tooth no matter what

formal orbit
#

you can't fill the skelly slot

#

because you can only refill 1 DD each time

#

it go away when you leave the chamber which you lose it in

tepid light
#

Perhaps I should have been more specific in my initial question

formal orbit
#

oh, I read that wrong

tepid light
#

Does the increase to DD healing from Last Stand increase the hp given back from Lucky Tooth

formal orbit
#

haven't tried it yet

formal orbit
runic jungle
#

Okay I take back what I said about zag sword
This weapon is so ass lol.
Do the other aspects for the sword make it at least a Lil better?

wary iron
#

Yea

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Quite a bit

formal orbit
#

nemesis is the best of sword maybe?

upper wolf
#

nemesis is great, poseidon is fun ig and arthur is fun if you're not on high heat/speedrunning

#

I think nemesis is agreed as the best one yeah

#

but honestly sword overall is a bit meh

formal orbit
#

funny bonk build flurry + cursed slash on zag sword

#

swift strike for maximum bonking

upper wolf
#

yes

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it's fun

#

though I like divine strike and replace cursed with breaching wave

#

actually the one and only video I recorded of the game was when I had this combo

runic jungle
#

I feel a little silly for trying hades spear before giving achilles spear a chance bc wow
This is prolly my best run of this game ever lol
I definitely prefer Achilles to hades now.
And the extra dialog during thesus battle is lowkey funny

latent moon
#

Hades spear kinda just not great lmao

runic jungle
#

I think I just liked the spin buff with it 😂

jagged hamlet
#

Ain't nothing cuter than Artemis pretending to rummage through a big bag of blessings

stray shard
#

What's a good hades inspired cat name

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Girl

jagged hamlet
#

Oh that's good. Sounds exactly like what Hades would name a cat

latent moon
#

Tar tar sauce, short for Tartarus

jagged hamlet
#

"Girl."

latent moon
#

Or that

jagged hamlet
#

Second choice is Alecto because

stray shard
#

No the cat is a girl

#

😭

jagged hamlet
#

GIRL.

stray shard
#

I landed on nyx

#

Thanks 😭

jagged hamlet
#

Yer gosh dern welcome 👍

wary iron
#

I was about to make a joke, then realised it was German now I’m sad…

jagged hamlet
#

Congrats on cat, by the way!

wary iron
#

Yeah

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And good luck

stray shard
#

And i was like "give me"

#

So i took it home and IT'S MINE NOW!!!!

wary iron
#

I’m pretty sure there are some risks to that

stray shard
#

Unless it decides to leave

#

I didn't bring it inside

stray shard
wary iron
#

Alright, you should check it tho, if you wanna keep it

stray shard
#

I say it cuz idk it's gender yet 🙏

#

It's a wittle baby

stray shard
#

I decided on nyx if it's girl and orpheus if it's boy

wary iron
#

Good

jagged hamlet
#

Good sibilant names for cat. Should get its attention ezpz

#

pspspspsps

runic jungle
#

Doing a zues shield run currently.
Im kinda conerced about the hades boss with the shield weapon in general bc I feel like a ranged weapon is just better for that boss in particular

#

Also quick question bc I've been curious about this
In house of stx or whatever it's called, sometimes there's a glow on the chamber
Does the glow indicate where the sack for cerbeus sack might be?

mint coral
#

no

jagged hamlet
#

Glow = mini boss and better boon or item

mint coral
#

only rule is that it won't be on the first tunnel you enter

jagged hamlet
#

Zeus shield is a ranged weapon

mint coral
#

also yeah, while ranged weapons are way safer

#

you are using a shield

#

throw special out (if possible so it stays on dad) and recall if necessary

#

can do that while blocking

runic jungle
mint coral
#

zeus shield is all about the special

jagged hamlet
#

What the special is amaaaazing, esp with Zeus on it

runic jungle
mint coral
#

you either aim it well or use recall and dodge the shield while it pursues you

runic jungle
#

Ye the special does have its benefits when paired w zues lightning but I think my main beef with it is that the return feels so slow.

jagged hamlet
#

Shield's slow speed is a feature. More hits as it travels through enemies

mint coral
#

on return it goes faster tho?

#

can also dash towards it to catch it earlier

#

or bullrush, same thing

short glen
#

god I wish I had the aiming ability needed for FO2 bow to not be a nightmare

#

Also like. The ability to understand how to time dash shot power strikes.

leaden belfry
#

its basically a yo yo

jagged hamlet
#

Dash charge pew dash charge pew

short glen
#

I do practice but I have no idea if it's working or not is the problem

#

There's supposed to be some visual flash but the entire weapon is also glowing from the charge effect and the dash is like. Half a second and I can't tell if it's the CORRECT flash during the dash.

stone rune
#

sounds way different on power shot

short glen
#

I didn't even know the power shot HAD a sound. Gotta love the auditory processing disorder

stone rune
#

i have capd

#

its weird

runic jungle
#

Achilles spear feels like way too much fun lol.
Ite prolly not as strong on high heat right?
I think I actually like it even more than the rail

jagged hamlet
#

Do you play Archilles as melee or caster?

runic jungle
#

Melee mostly

stone rune
#

you can get 50 clear with it without too much trouble

upper wolf
#

Damn ME is so strong. RD too. Actually the game is a fair bit easier once you get a good build going, I should try some EM4 to put more difficulty into the end of the run when I'm broken and not the beginning

#

(I'm doing some 32 heat, so not incredibly hard)

lament estuary
#

It's been a while since I played this game so I restarted with a new save and going after bad boons for the prophecy has made me remember just how utterly terrible and worthless the "X status to enemies when you take damage" boons are

jagged hamlet
grand lotus
#

revenge runs are so fun

jagged hamlet
#

Go full Oldboy

latent moon
#

Heavens vengeance is pretty strong lmao

jagged hamlet
#

And so is Doom!

runic jungle
#

Finally seen the credits.
The song is a banger wth
Lil sad I couldn't romance than in time though
Couldn't unlock the heart that jerk stopped spawning lol.

jagged hamlet
#

It took me until my 140th run to unlock Meg's favor!

latent moon
#

You have plenty of time to romance him

runic jungle
#

Yeah I know I just wished I managed to do more before I reached credits lol

#

Like I didn't even get the spear hidden aspect unlocked yet.
Though to get that I think I need to work on the bond w Achilles and get him to say some word via convo?

mint coral
#

bond doesn't matter for it

coral kite
#

Honestly I don’t like cast much

#

Maybe because I’m so used to hitting enemies with cast to get the bonus

#

I usually do that to the boss

#

But I really enjoyed the ares and Dionysus casts

stoic beacon
#

will ambrosia delight help with getting legendaries

mint coral
#

no

#

you want refreshing nectar for that

stoic beacon
#

oh yeah

#

i meant refreshing

#

does that help?

mint coral
#

yup

#

+10% chance

stoic beacon
#

sweet

#

thank you!

jagged hamlet
#

Do we know the base chances for each rarity tier?

runic jungle
#

So I just found out that you get to fight Meg and her sisters together after reaching credits and I think that's massive bs ngl
Am not ready for all 3 of then at once lol

jagged hamlet
#

Sisters go pew pew pew

mint coral
#

that's not after credits

#

you just turned em1 on

stoic beacon
#

yea lol

mint coral
#

oh nvm

#

I think I misread

jagged hamlet
#

To be clear, the supporting sisters mostly just pew pew at you

stoic beacon
#

em1 feels free to me

runic jungle
jagged hamlet
#

Even when you're blinded while Alecto beyblades bounce about?

#

No ragrets!

#

Besides, you get extra dialogue!

stoic beacon
#

sometimes it uses a death defy up but im usually able to get it back

#

im also still

#

very low heat though

#

so

runic jungle
#

Okay I overestimated how difficult the battle was gonna be lol.
Granted it is low heat so maybe they're more annoying when high heat

mint coral
#

em1-2 are recommended to start anyways

#

although for em2, how often do you step on lava

jagged hamlet
#

100% of the time

stoic beacon
plain skiff
#

Good evening, So I was a hardcore HAdes fan when it got released, then an update happend and it ruined the game for me
but
i recently (last week-2 weeks) decided to try it again
and its working fine
who woulda thought
and im addicted again
just one more run
ive maanged to beat hades twice now...first time after 200 runs (although this is combined with my original save as i didnt start a new one)
i use KBM
i think i used controller when i first started the game

#

@mint coral i followed your advice

lament estuary
#

do separate sources of dodge chance stack with each other?

stone rune
#

yes

lament estuary
#

nice

coral kite
stone rune
#

someone asked about rama speedrun tips

#

pain

tepid light
#

Me: gets cluster bomb offered on eris
Also me: misclicks from excitement and selects hazard bomb instead

#

absolute pain

stone rune
#

i feel like at his level of popularity and influence he should be more careful about not throwing around bad advice

tepid light
#

his point regarding fiery vs shadow seems to be logical

stone rune
#

using shadow instead of fiery in a speedrun on rama

#

no top runners use it

#

fiery is better

tepid light
#

i don't see why

#

the logic seems solid

stone rune
#

it’s not

#

fiery lets you pick enemies off on spawn and increases damage to all enemies if you tag all except one

#

the 5:26 is fiery

#

timothy’s sub5 rerun of that run is fiery

#

all of grizz’s runs are fiery

#

fiery is better

tepid light
#

your argument is that "fiery is better because everyone uses it"
but haelian's argument is that rama special, which does very little damage in of itself, wastes the fiery bonus damage, which seems fair

i'm curious as to why his argument is flawed from a mechanical/logical perspective

stone rune
#

it’s because shadow is too hard to proc

#

and fiery bonus is too good

#

shadow is only relevant on occasion in rooms and in heroes/dad on occasion

#

because you don’t need shadow for furies and it doesn’t even work on lernie

tepid light
stone rune
#

while fiery means that if you tag all enemies except one in a wave all enemies will take 1.05x your raw attack damage

#

it’s not minimal

#

it is very significant

#

it also lets you pick enemies off on spawn

tepid light
#

in the specific case of rama special, i mean

stone rune
#

it matters for some breakpoints

tepid light
#

which just factually doesn't do a lot of damage by itself

stone rune
#

in tart

#

but that’s not the main use of rama

#

fiery i mean

#

not rama

#

the main use is for fiery on attack damage

tepid light
#

but isn't the usual process with rama to special first then attack

stone rune
#

on some enemies

#

you don’t specia every enemy

#

you pick some off on spawn

#

with fiery you will often avoid specialing some enemies

#

in order to increase shared suffering damage on all enemies

#

as well as for example

#

with fiery it is a lot easier to hit the breakpoint of one dstrike power shot killing a lernie head

#

if you special you can’t precharge

#

fiery is just better

tepid light
#

mmm

#

yeah i see what you mean

#

though i do also see where haelian was coming from

stone rune
#

there is also the difficulty of even hitting backstabs

#

on rama actually landing your dash strike power shots without getting hit stunned out of them is hard enough

#

there’s also the fact haelian didn’t mention starting zeus special

#

which is like

#

fundamental to rama speedrunning

#

and also perfect is better than point blank

#

i just feel like he’s gotta be more mindful of not coming out here with bad advice

latent moon
#

it's not bad

#

it's fine

#

shadow for speed works

stone rune
#

fiery is better though

#

and he was telling someone to switch

latent moon
#

yeah it is better but it doesnt really matter

tepid light
#

which one does he himself use

latent moon
#

until you get to like sub8/9 or whatever

stone rune
#

i don’t think he runs rama

#

i don’t think he really runs

latent moon
#

also like it's reddit

#

it doesnt really matter that much

stone rune
#

it’s the principle of the thing

tepid light
#

i mean it being reddit isn't an excuse to be dumb

#

in general

latent moon
#

he wasn't intentionally being dumb lmao

#

it's not like his line of reasoning is flawed

stone rune
#

that’s the thing about hades tho

#

and also just life

tepid light
#

honestly i don't think he was being dumb either

#

i could have phrased that better

stone rune
#

reasoning can be completely fine and logical and the result can be completely wrong

#

because the weight of things has to be considered

tepid light
latent moon
#

the weight is not getting a lower time on rama isnt it lmao

stone rune
#

like

#

the weight of how good extra shadow on specialed enemies is vs the weight of how good fiery is on undamaged ones

latent moon
#

eh the rama runner was probably aiming for a sub10

#

shadow is doable for sub10

stone rune
#

it was like

#

13:30

latent moon
#

yeah shadow is fine

#

they'll get it eventually

#

it's not like egregiously wrong lmao

#

shadow vs fiery honestly isnt that big of a deal for rama unless you want to really crank the times lower

stone rune
#

i just don’t see the pt in choosing a generally not negligibly worse option

#

when they were on the good one to start with

latent moon
#

well through haelian's line of reasoning it makes sense to take shadow over fiery

#

and like if you see something you think is wrong, you're gonna point that out

#

which is what he did

#

and like people make mistakes lmao

#

wasn't intentional and not really that harmful either

#

yeah shadow is worse but also like eh

tepid light
#

no no as we all know, a mistake on reddit is punishable by death

latent moon
#

it's not like it's ruthless vs greater reflex lmfao

#

yeah fiery will help get the sub10 sooner but oh well

#

we'll see what they choose

stone rune
#

what probably makes more difference in the time tho is starting zeus

#

they had arty special? for some reason

latent moon
#

yeah that's the bigger thing lmao

#

they prob started with the attack

#

and just picked up arty special because they already got the dash or whatever idk

tepid light
#

artemis special on rama

#

that sounds uhhh

latent moon
#

you get a lot of crit sounds surprisingly

jagged hamlet
#

One out of five rama specials being crits probably doesn't bring it up to Zeus levels of damage unfortunately

latent moon
#

yeah but it's funny

jagged hamlet
#

True. That's much more important than going fast

tepid light
#

DAD BEATEN

#

FINALLY

#

SHAKING OFF THE RUST

tepid light
#

Dad beaten again

#

Athena and Artemis is quickly becoming my favorite combo

upper wolf
#

It's very good yeah

#

Deadly reversal makes me happy

short glen
#

Imagine if any effect that increased total dashes increased gilga dash in increments of 3 mini dashes like the conversion for the weapon itself

#

Me when I use greater reflex and get epic level greatest reflex and have 15 mini dashes

sinful topaz
#

When Chaos shortens the dash range, does it also decrease the amount of i-frames?

tepid light
#

Aaaand third time

#

Chiron with Aphrodite attack and Ares special

#

Good stuff

#

Arthur with Aphrodite attack and shadow slash

#

Big numbers

#

The game is spoiling me today

formal orbit
#

how good is explosive shot with rama, I got to elysium and got ap2 explosive

#

died at hero

#

already have twin

raw herald
#

Massive damage at a cost

#

You basically never want to fire a power shot ever again

stiff obsidian
#

does charming hades deactivate pots as well

tepid light
#

Dad down with 3hp

#

Not even close

knotty glacier
sinful topaz
# stiff obsidian does charming hades deactivate pots as well

From the run I just had with Aphro legendary, these are some interesting notes:

  • Pots don't disappear
  • The laser attack stops.
  • On EM4, ||he stops healing from the pots, though there's a significant wind down animation||
  • Again on EM4, ||getting charm mid-spin is annoying because he'll just instantly spin again with little to no warning after charm runs out||
mint coral
#

Both charm/sigil of the dad can make the last part happen

#

It makes enemies repeat their last pattern

stiff obsidian
#

I literally only get hit by pots

#

But that's enough to lose

autumn rose
#

i hate approval process

tepid light
#

I can get chaos aspect to work

#

But it is beyond man's ability to make it not feel awkward

#

This has been a PSA

wary iron
#

I was thinking, would the Demeter sprint help break the pots, or would the range be so little that you still get damage?

autumn rose
#

dont use demeters dash

wary iron
#

I take that as a no

autumn rose
#

you could

tepid light
raw herald
#

It’s just pretty awkward to use

autumn rose
#

it sucks

raw herald
#

Tidal dash is probably best for breaking them

autumn rose
#

u can break them with melees and dash away

#

just that dash is rly bad

#

not necessarily for this purpose

#

just in general

tepid light
#

I use things like demeter dash sometimes just to break the monotony of using athena/poseidon dash every run

#

Though sometimes I forget that I don't have athena dash, run straight into a cloud of projectiles, and eat big damage because of it

wary iron
#

Yeah I just play with hs (idfk why) and try not to risk it I either use my cast, or the bows special when not locked, just wondered if there were other safe methods

tepid light
#

The best ways to break pots depends more on your weapon/aspect than your dash

wary iron
#

I usually go with bow or fists, depending I use cast or special, both takes me out of the fight for some time tho, and I’m terrible enough to always get hit when I do that, so I tried new ways, guess there’s no easy way around it

tepid light
#

Easiest way is with rail special imo

wary iron
#

Yeah

#

I Never tried a rail clear tbh, I should

tepid light
#

esp if you have triple bomb or cluster bomb

#

or even hazard bomb

#

though that last one has its own caveats

tepid light
#

it is if you're trying to build around its gimmick

#

the multiple shield throw

runic jungle
#

Adamant rail + Zeus lightning attack combined is so cracked and I love it lol.
Add delta chamber the mix and its over

tepid light
#

I also gave spread fire an actual chance for the first time

#

It's actually not bad

#

Works nicely with eris because you're getting close to enemies anyway to stand in the special aoe

mint coral
#

How can you play 6 bullets rail ron

#

Zag rail spread fire is fun tho

tepid light
#

A whole lot of back-and-forth running

rose roost
#

which attk is better for zag bow, aphro or arti?

#

also what's best attk for zag rail with spread fire?

latent moon
#

I think if you don't get twin shot, Aphrodite is generally more consistent

latent moon
#

Otherwise like Aphrodite

#

If melee, then ME

rose roost
#

ME too boring blegh

#

I'll try both aphro and arti 👍

runic jungle
#

Do you gain anything from beating the Charon boss?
Wondering if it's worth the attempt.

rose roost
#

gives u a card that reduces the cost of buyable items

#

It's not really worth it most of the time

latent moon
#

it's worth it if you beat him in tartarus and kinda aspho

#

in elysium it's kinda eh

#

but the fight will be easier in elysium

#

tartarus fight kinda hard when you have like 2 boons lmao

mint coral
#

Only reason for ely fight is the prophecy tbh

latent moon
#

yeah pretty much

upper wolf
#

it also gives 300 obols to beat him

#

since you take 300 to trigger the fight

leaden belfry
#

why is he just leaving money out

upper wolf
#

why do people leave tasty worms at the end of a fishing line

mint coral
#

Is just his most recent earnings

leaden belfry
mint coral
#

Nah

leaden belfry
#

isnt Charons income basically the tax

#

for dead people

#

He is revenue for Hades

#

So Hades basically relies on him to fund everythifn

#

But then why does Hades even need a monetry system

#

Dudes a god

#

and they are all dead

#

???

#

What ks the economy in Hades

#

Because the dead have no real needs

mint coral
#

Don't think they even have one lol

#

You either deal in contracts so your lover is in a fancy place or you are stuck doing office job

runic jungle
#

I still wonder wth Charon even does with the money
Like does he just spend earnings to get more boons in like an endless cycle?

mint coral
#

I always assumed he just likes money

#

Granted I know nothing of greek myth so if anyone knows, be my guest.

short glen
#

It's actually quite complicated

#

See, Hades in ancient Greece eventually began being called Plouton, who became conflated often with Ploutos, a wealth god. That's apparently how that connection happened. So says my googling at least

#

Why Charon wants money though, that I don't know

short glen
#

...hang on. Isn't that how Hades Persephone is in lore

mint coral
#

Yup

short glen
#

I wonder if that was intentional or a coincidence

leaden belfry
#

Like why does sissphuys give me coins

#

unless

#

money is purely for entertainment

#

sissyphus bets against himself

#

Hades economy is 100% gambling based

#

The shades gamble on every choice Zagerus makes

#

The hero fight is a massive gambling event

#

boss fights

#

cos they are bored

mint coral
#

Ely being an event like that def makes sense lol

rose roost
#

some things are just there for gameplay reasons

runic jungle
#

For everyone else who unlocked hidden aspects.
How long did it take you guys for Achilles to say the phrase needed for the spear aspect if you remember.

jagged hamlet
#

I think I had it within a few dozen runs

#

Unlike Meg's favor grr

runic jungle
#

Oh boy
I really hope he let's me unlock them soon bc I really want lucifer aspect already lol
I finally gotten the hang of things though so I'm glad

#

Might actually try Charon boss fight again.
I just need to work on dodging his oar swings bc that's what be getting me

zealous ridge
#

Hey I was wondering does anyone know where to get a DUSA plushie from the video game? Or anything to decorate your room with.

cloud tartan
#

etsys your best bet for that i think

latent moon
#

there's a bunch of stuff on the fangamer website

#

shirts, hoodies, figurines, some posters iirc

#

plushies

zealous ridge
#

Thank you! I'm trying to do a room makeover! I love the witcher too so I'm putting some of that stuff in my room

jagged hamlet
#

Whoa their nendroids are by Good Smile. That's quality!

thorn anvil
#

Hey have you guys ever heard of this cool game called Hades

latent moon
#

i have not

#

do tell more

jagged hamlet
#

I heard that you can pet a dog in Hades!

knotty glacier
#

5 different runs on beo, so many poseidon/artemis and not once did i see mirage shot. fresh savefile sucks

thorn anvil
thorny bolt
#

So is thanatos' spawn truly random or is there a way to make him spawn more often? I've been trying to romance this man for ages now

jagged hamlet
#

Random

mint coral
thorny bolt
#

Having mort won't stop him from spawning tho right?

stone rune
#

no

sonic hollow
mint coral
#

:CharonWide3:

drowsy linden
#

:widecharon3:

old dawn
#

same kinda vibe

drowsy linden
#

how do i unlock god/hell modebouldy

jagged hamlet
#

You go into the menu, then you select God Mode. Hell Mode can only be activated while creating a new save

drowsy linden
#

somehow ive never noticed

#

heat 64 time

thorn anvil
#

Yall ever fall in love with the story/characters of a game so much that you kinda don't want the actual gameplay? Thats me with this game rn.

drowsy linden
#

:widecharon3:

thorn anvil
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also I love that one of the infernal arms is just a gun

latent moon
latent moon
thorn anvil
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|:

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it's a gun

latent moon
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yeah they had those back then

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for sure

thorn anvil
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ikr

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If the god you worship can't make a gun then is it a god worth worshipping?

drowsy linden
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it even dates all the way back to the start of humanity

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god created adam, and went "here, take this"

latent moon
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yeah sounds about right

thorn anvil
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adam couldn't shoot eve before she made the biggest mistake of human history

drowsy linden
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no, satan shot adam before he could shoot eve

thorn anvil
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now im imagining a snake with an AK shooting a guy to protect a girl eating a tomato

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But seriously the rail of adamantite is just a gun
It looks like a gun
It works like a gun
It probably tastes like a gun
it's a gun

drowsy linden
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its renamed to be more kid friendly

thorn anvil
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yeah

jagged hamlet
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Meanwhile, kids running around with pistols and rifles and mortars in Bastion

thorn anvil
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I probably shouldn't be making my first ever real discussion about the game about guns...

mint coral
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Rail is funny but I love the codex description of the fists more

drowsy linden
thorn anvil
drowsy linden
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dusa:

latent moon
drowsy linden
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because its part of greek mythology and they ran out of creative liberty passes

thorn anvil
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Hot take: we should be able to make a relationship with bouldy in the game

drowsy linden
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you can already form one

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infinite heartsfriendly

thorn anvil
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wait fr-

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YEAAAA

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Side note: my first ever "relationship" was with skelly i think theres something wrong with me-

jagged hamlet
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Boyo.

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Did you know that both Zagreus and Skelly are Darren Korb?

thorn anvil
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what does that mean (im not that experienced with greek mythology stuff sorry lol)

jagged hamlet
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They share a voice actor! He also happens to be the singing voice of Orpheus and the music director for like every SG game

thorn anvil
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OOHHHH

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sweet

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so zag is just a narcissist and a schizophrenic!

jagged hamlet
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And a talented musician to boot!

thorn anvil
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also i love that there are like 20k ppl here, but i've seen like 10 ppl chatting the entire time i've been in this server

drowsy linden
latent moon
jagged hamlet
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I blame jazz for scaring them all

latent moon
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vaguely true

drowsy linden
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:widecharon3:

stone rune
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i can’t do that anymore

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my free nitro expired

mint coral
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Rip

thorn anvil
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Just get a new discord acc every time your free nitro expires (:

thorn anvil
sonic hollow
stone rune
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they had some promo

sonic hollow
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Ah, damn

stone rune
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i clicked the button and it said 1 month trial

sonic hollow
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Was it basic, or was it the whole package?

stone rune
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full

sonic hollow
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Oh damn

runic jungle
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I have like zero awareness lol
Zag kept repeating that he should check on the garden and idek where it was so I ignored the line
Looked it up just now and turns out it's literally next to his roomheyred

lament estuary
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Do the "elite rooms" have better chances to get higher boon rarities or something?

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cause those rooms give more of the permanent items if you beat them

thorn anvil
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your talking about the rooms with special encounters, like the huge soul catcher in elysium, right?

lament estuary
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just like, the rooms with the little skull thing on them

thorn anvil
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yeah those

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yea boons there have better chances of being rare or better

latent moon
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miniboss rooms have a better chance at seeing rare and epic boons

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it decreases legendary and duo odds by 2% tho lmao

thorn anvil
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wait what-

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WHY WOULD IT DO THAT????

drowsy linden
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gaem desaign

latent moon
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unless you're min-maxing boon building

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but like it doesnt matter too much

thorn anvil
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eh fair

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still i feel like those rooms should just be like- direct upgrades to the normal rooms

latent moon
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i mean they are

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kinda

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rare and epic rarity boost

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by a pretty significant margin iirc

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+---------------+------+
| Legendary/Duo | 10% |
+---------------+------+
| Epic | 25% |
+---------------+------+
| Rare | 90% |
+---------------+------+
| Common | 100% |
+---------------+------+

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well the formatting got a bit scuffed lmao