#h1-discussion

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plush ferry
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does sweet nectar work on eurydice poms?

stone rune
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eris buff is global

plush ferry
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yea seems that way

stone rune
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is it rare

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lvl1

plush ferry
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rare lv1

stone rune
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yep

plush ferry
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the 152 was from wall damage

stone rune
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nah that’s right

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2 dashes

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42*1.75*2

plush ferry
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but now it's doing 144 at level 3

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ohhhh okay

formal citrus
plush ferry
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from family favorite right?

formal citrus
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Yee

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What're pom slices? That's a no on nectar poms?

latent moon
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the 50 coin thingy from charons shop

plush ferry
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pom slices are 50 obol items in the charon shop that pom a random boon

drowsy linden
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why must lucifer be worse than normal rail

stone rune
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it's not

drowsy linden
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impossible
i guess im just bad with it, im too used to the "hit enemies to stun" thing

stone rune
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thats not on other rails either

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except hestia

drowsy linden
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my whole life has been a lie

stone rune
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was just informed by reddit that delta chamber is objectively bad and only applicable at very low levels

latent moon
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lmfao

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delta chamber iframes kinda good at high heat

stone rune
vale moss
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i mean not objectively bad but there are better options*

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i wouldn’t know i pretty much exclusively play hestia on the rail

latent moon
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it's probably the best attack hammer on eris

stone rune
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i mean

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it’s definitely th best attack hammer

latent moon
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and technically zag rail if you ignore spread fire lmao

stone rune
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given its competition is like

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piercing fire

latent moon
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well hestia exists

stone rune
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and flurry fire

latent moon
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and luci doesnt want eternal chamber

vale moss
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i actually found out today that delta chamber doesn’t stop you from reloading

stone rune
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yea

vale moss
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i was forced to take it in a 52 heat run

stone rune
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u can’t brick on hammer on hestia

vale moss
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was so upset until i realized it’s actually fine

stone rune
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in my 54 i got spread fire second lol

vale moss
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honestly forget if that’s a good or bad thing

stone rune
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it does nothing on hestia

vale moss
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came back to running like a week ago

vale moss
drowsy linden
spare tiger
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so is Karl Jobst late to the party or was Max Heat a recent thing?

drowsy linden
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i was about to ask that question here

stone rune
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start of august

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he got research from angel and cgull and haelian and stuff tho

spare tiger
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fair enough

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crazy that it's clear now

plush ferry
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im so glad i finally spent the blood on Chaos aspect shield, it's probably in my top 3 aspects now

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along with eris and hera

stone rune
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like the chaos aspect of the shield

plush ferry
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yes

stone rune
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well

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nowhere to go but up

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🗿

plush ferry
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the chaos aspect of the shield of chaos

stone rune
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it’s like

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4th worst in the game

plush ferry
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okay?

stone rune
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but also

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if u like it

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go 4 it

plush ferry
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if i cared about speedrun times i would simply try for aspect leaderboards

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i just like the shotgun blast

stone rune
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have u tried hestia

drowsy linden
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zeus shield so cool

plush ferry
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hestia is a rifle not a shotgun

stone rune
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it’s a shotgun if u use it like 1

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all the rails r melee weapons

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u even pump it to reload

drowsy linden
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ive forgotten what its like to use normal shield and spear
strangely enough, ive got like 50-75 runs, 2 are fists.

plush ferry
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hestia used to be my favorite but i play keyboard and it's hard for me to reload while moving fluidly

stone rune
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on hestia u never do like

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wasd waddle sort of move

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during attacking

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it all comes from dashes

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but yea it’s a little weird on kbm

plush ferry
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i know i mean its hard to reload while also moving in a direction or dashing when I want to theres always microstutters

stone rune
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i have rotation figured out without special

plush ferry
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i could probably just rebind it to one of my extra mouse buttons

stone rune
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but whenever i try to@implent special i usually screw something up

coarse tapir
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What are the aspect rankings?

stone rune
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beowulf is the best

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gilgamesh is the worst

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chaos arthur chiron and to a degree talos and maybe hades are also down there

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hera achilles hestia eris rama are all up there

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for heat all the other shields are good

royal widget
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does ice wine work differently from base without beo/hera

stone rune
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?

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like on non beo hera

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yes

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it’s a lot better

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pops out super fast

royal widget
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oh weird

bright sentinel
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I considered rebinding it to mouse

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One of my side buttons

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Which would probably feel way more natural and free my movement

inland charm
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if you think about it, the whole hades game is basically sisyphus

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fight, go outside, check garden, die, repeat.

royal widget
upper wolf
white path
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When I look at malphon's aspects, it says my fastest time is 20:00:00
When I go to my records, it says my fastest time for malphon is 20:00:09
???

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nooo I like my 20:00:00
And I will not be able to get that again

wispy sinew
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Is aspect of rama good?

mint coral
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Is amazing

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Just takes a bit of time to get used to

wispy sinew
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Is it better than hera? Also is any the hidden aspects not good?

mint coral
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Gilga is quite bouldy

white path
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I personally don't like lucifer

mint coral
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But if you just want wins then they all work

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Arthur-gilga are the worst ones if you think of high heat-zoom

wispy sinew
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@white path is that the gun or sword?

mint coral
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Gun

white path
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gun

mint coral
white path
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Wait how is gilgamesh for going fast. It gives you more dashes

mint coral
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And it can also be quite fast

mint coral
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And unlike dem fists you don't have burst dmg to help before ME

wispy sinew
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Ok so if I'm on low heat use hera high heat rama?

mint coral
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You can use both at low heat

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But at that point pick whichever is more fun to you

wispy sinew
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Ok got you. I bought hera hearing it's good but I still getting used to bow. I just don't understand it tbh

mint coral
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Hera allows for burst dmg with your cast

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And with it's best cast (aphro's) you also delete the only downside of it, that being the short range

latent moon
wispy sinew
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Cuz other than that it's so slow

latent moon
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You always dash strike with bows anyways

white path
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But if you want to do something funny, get demeter cast instead. Then aphrodite's duo boon

mint coral
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At least do that with talos bouldy

wispy sinew
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I will get all them just what one to do first

latent moon
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Hidden rail I guess

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It's a bit weird but not bad

white path
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I like fist more

mint coral
wispy sinew
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Ok thanks also what is everyone's favorite weapon? Or what weapon did you use to beat the game first time

mint coral
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Fav weapon is prob rama or zeus shield

stone rune
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HESTIA 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪

mint coral
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First weapon was talos bouldy

stone rune
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mine was nem

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but i didnt use the aspect bonus

wispy sinew
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My first time beating was with the shield I was so pumped zues summon saved me though

white path
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Guan Yu by far.
Used it for my first 8, and my only 16 and 32 heat clears

wispy sinew
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That's the first one that I could unlock just wasn't sure if should buy it

mint coral
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It's basically glass cannon hestia

plush ferry
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first time i beat the game i was either on fists or rail

wispy sinew
plush ferry
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you can play hestia rail and be the cannon without the glass

white path
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How does guan yu = glass cannon hestia???

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You get so much healing

latent moon
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charged skewer

white path
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oh. Never cared about that part lol

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Spin to win

latent moon
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it's the best way to play guan yu lmao

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built in explosive launcher

white path
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If I tried that I would not have been able to clear 32 heat

latent moon
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it's actually pretty easy lmao

mint coral
latent moon
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charged skewer gets rid of the shot delay on the special

white path
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nah, spin attack was easy

latent moon
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charged skewer guan yu is used for hitless runs

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because it plays basically the same as hestia

white path
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step 1:
anything until you get a hammer in room 1
Step 2: give up that run. change to guan yu. Hope it gives you quick spin.
step 3: if not, start step 1 again lol

stone rune
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quick spin bouldy

latent moon
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the funny part is that you can do the exact same thing but get charged skewer instead lmao

white path
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I also did that when I wanted zag sword money damage

plush ferry
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honestly 2 out of 7 hits or whatever isn't even bad if you're waiting for a hammer

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just pick quick spin or charged depending on which it gives you

white path
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hm. I'll try that next

untold crown
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charged skewer guan yu is the best

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throw artemis on special and boomboomboom

white path
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Doesn't aphrodite give the most damage?

untold crown
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aphrodite would be fine too yeah

stone rune
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aph is more consistent

white path
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For some unknown reason.

untold crown
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i had lv.6 heroic aphrodite charged skewer once

mint coral
untold crown
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but i like crits

white path
plush ferry
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surely crits are bigger deeps?

stone rune
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it depends on how much external additive you have

pastel monolith
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ive never crunched the numbers but all i know is never underestimate crits

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crits are 3x damage and if u have any base crit nvm pressure points or hunters mark.. it can be big dps

stone rune
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plush ferry
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how does deadly flourish level 1 common only come out to 96%

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it should be 1.4 x 1.6, no?

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coming out to 124%

stone rune
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1.4*1.4

plush ferry
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20% crit rate, x3 damage per crit, would lead to a modifier of 1.6 i think

stone rune
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no

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heres how i think about it

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imagine you have 100 1 damage hits

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with a 20% crit chance

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so you get 20 crits for 3 damage each

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there are 80 non crit hits

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for 80 total

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and 20 3 damage crits

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for 60

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so 140

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crit % is a multiplicative that averages out to a 2 times the crit chance %

plush ferry
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ic

midnight apex
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i just realized for my almost 300 hours on hades ive been playing with v-sync on the entire time, is that bad? just curious to how much v-sync affects a game like hades

jagged hamlet
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Almost 140 runs, and Megeara still won't pay me any attention 😭

stone crane
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Is there still a speedrunning server for Hades?

stone rune
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yes

stone crane
brisk trail
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60 is good 144 optimal for better reaction time

stone rune
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the game is easier on lower fps

brisk trail
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?

stone rune
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enemes move faster with higher fps

brisk trail
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😱

crystal star
brisk trail
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Any proof

brisk trail
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Im used to this speed

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Too easy i sleep gn

vale moss
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first win was actually with zag shield though

plush ferry
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i like eris demeter zagbow zeus chaos arthur

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hera also cool but im mad at it rn because i died to FO1 hades on last hit

stone rune
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idk

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it makes power couple meg annoying tho

crystal star
wispy sinew
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@crystal star not sure if I usef chiron yet would have to look but I like the others you mentioned

stone rune
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chiron is certainly one of the aspects in the game

crystal star
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Its not that bad

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I like the hangover build

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Sea storm is cool too

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Heart rend sometimes

royal widget
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sea storm only good one

hardy spear
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just do it on supersoaker or something and you wont be locked into an animation for 4 years

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chiron tests me

rustic thicket
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on nemesis the way to go is heart rend and double edge right??

latent moon
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that's one of them yeah

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nemesis is pretty flexible

stone rune
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nem has rlly flexibile build path

latent moon
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i'd say starting aphrodite and building into heart rend is more consistent damage if you can't guarantee double edge

rustic thicket
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aphro on special or primary

royal widget
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attack

stone rune
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most consistent without dedge if you get the build up is ME

rustic thicket
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hmm cool cool

stone rune
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only take aph atk at rarity

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if it doesnt have rarity take specail

rustic thicket
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hmm cool cool

stone rune
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and do arty attack

crystal star
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You have way more crit chances on attack

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Especially if you get Dedge

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You arent using the special for dmg anyways

stone rune
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arty is comparatively less if you already have other crit chance

royal widget
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wouldn't you rather the base attack deal more damage

latent moon
stone rune
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however i still like arty

crystal star
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So get arty

royal widget
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i play modded and go aph attack
i don't see the issue

stone rune
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because with dedge it really guarantees you get a crit in with 2 dedge dash strikes

crystal star
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Frfr

stone rune
royal widget
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hmm

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I'll try it

crystal star
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I still like arty though for the crit chance

rustic thicket
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dayum dodge build is fairly decent

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I prefer more dps but this was much better than I excepted

latent moon
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plume zag fists?

rustic thicket
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yeah

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with ruthless reflex

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fairly decent

mint coral
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Just get the boons

rustic thicket
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i wish there was an axe weapon

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or hammer

latent moon
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world splitter sword lmao

rustic thicket
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true

latent moon
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just dont dash strike

stone rune
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zagshield attack buid

latent moon
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zag shield pulv blow

stone rune
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explosive shot min charge rama

rustic thicket
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what's a build for rama's primary

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i've tried zeus on special

stone rune
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A beefy % attack, Aphro is very good (ideally not common), or you can go for Artemis because crits, any high rarity % attack can do except Poseidon (avoid that one), for the Special you want flat damage, it's not hard to come by, usually not worth forcing tho, Ares Dio Zeus are the main ones, you can go for Demeter and try to get Killing freeze, it can work pretty well, for the Dash there arent many options because most of them are either anti-synergy or just dont do anything, Artemis however is probably the best in slot dash, because Rama relies on dash strikes and getting dash strike damage is just good, Athena is a good one too because deflecting is nice, another important thing for Rama is hammers, ideally you want Triple Shot or Twin Shot for your first hammer, if not offered you can go for Perfect or Point Blank, and for the second hammer you usually want Perfect or Point Blank (assuming Triple or Twin first) but the order can be the other way here, if you get Perfect Shot as first hammer then it's fine too, hammers to avoid are Sniper shot (blocks Twins shot) and also doesnt do anything, and Repulse shot, Explosive is a bit of an odd one, it's nice in some scenarios but hard to play, Chain shot is okay, wont do much in bosses. Rama is difficult and needs practice but it's really good when it comes to heat especially, it's a good idea to watch vods of people who are good at it and try to implement their movement and decision making in your runs

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Thanks MiKE

rustic thicket
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so I built it right more or less, except the practice part 😂

stone rune
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yea rama is hard

rustic thicket
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the run with zeus special was fine

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i completed that but I failed with aphro on primary

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oh well

stone rune
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the biggest thing about rama is recognising when to release a shot early

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since the charge takes so long it's not always possible to get off a full powershot

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because the enemies are shockingly trying to make you get deaded

latent moon
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it's just that there's a better way to use rama

rustic thicket
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zeus is kinda boring, even though I do like his builds

stone rune
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i like the zeus animations

rustic thicket
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i think my most used might be dio & aphro

stone rune
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i mean

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its just like

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a little bit of damage

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why not pos

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if u started shackle u want dash

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if u started dash u want shoals/beaver

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get dash then

latent moon
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i think on every aspect you benefit from poseidon somewhere lmao

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it's probably less important on hera but it's still useful

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i guess on ME builds it's not that useful but CoD funny

stone rune
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mirage

latent moon
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true but i wouldn't make it a priority at all

stone rune
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u like need it to do damage

latent moon
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depending on the heat level i'd probably take whatever else instead unless it's for fodder

stone rune
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oh heat

latent moon
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yeah you dont really do passion beo for speed lmao

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you can but like why

stone rune
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it was first beo sub6

latent moon
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yeah but no one does that nowadays

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it's doable and obviously possible but there's no need to unless you just feel like doing it for fun

royal widget
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Why

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is it just small

stone rune
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yea and opens duos with arty and pos

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and doesnt go through walls

latent moon
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harder to get mirage with

stone rune
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and if your cshot goes into a wall the flare doesnt work

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idk i take poms

latent moon
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rarity is better than a pom for aphro atk right?

stone rune
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lvl1 dash bad

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gomble is fine

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nectar is fine

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why did you take tooth

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yes

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you should have taken zeus

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or arty

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idk

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u can wait for the heads to go on the thing

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do u have any ap

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i mean

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cant hurt ig?

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but its a litlte unlikely to brick

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worst case is like flurry cursed

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chop isnt that bad and dash nova is uhh pretty annoying

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gg

latent moon
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Oops all discord

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Download more gigs

stone rune
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yea

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call

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doesnt open dd tho

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roll for replace dusa

latent moon
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How many rolls do you have left

stone rune
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do u have both hermes

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yea u do

native blade
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take clean kill

stone rune
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idk its fine to roll

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but clean kill not worst thing ever

latent moon
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i'd save 1 so UC doesn't cuck you

stone rune
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roll

latent moon
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oh def roll

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10 vs 12

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does it matter that much lmao

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that's normal

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dont roll again btw

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take mirage

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it'll sell for a lot too lmao

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how much coin do you have

stone rune
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u got sprint right

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and u have mirage

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coin for styx hermes is extremely funny

latent moon
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yeah that's what i'd do unironically

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because like

stone rune
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or dashes

latent moon
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there's no reason not to at this point right

stone rune
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beaver would be nice

latent moon
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pos isn't gonna give you anything other than beaver and hydro might

latent moon
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well

stone rune
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yea ig

latent moon
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it's always nice

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but it shines best for speed

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styx is generally never a problem except for some of the minibosses

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actually pos for fodder might've been good here lmao

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depends i guess

stone rune
latent moon
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you'd put mirage back into the pool

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athena vs shop?

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the best case for athena rn is cast replace into miniboss athena to cheese a DD

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shop has a 50/50 chance to offer a duo god you want right

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no

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i'd probably take shop

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how many times you want to roll is up to you lmao

stone rune
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you know

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i have played no hours of hades today

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this must be some form of child abuse i should have done at least 4 hours of 40 heat already

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instead ive done 4 hours for each physics problem

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idk

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this problem is more annoying than the calc 2 stuff from last year

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well i figured it out now

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u have no athena core right

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did u sell crush shot

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did u sell mirage

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do u have money for hermes

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is money on door

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oh

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idk

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not most impactful chopicce

chilly jasper
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how bad is chaos shield

royal widget
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it just deals zero damage

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sure it's a shield and thus can block and get cshot

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but it doesn't offer anything good

chilly jasper
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ah

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so i wanna do a new save file, and basically beat tartarus with every weapon so i get 6 titan blood.

what weapon would be best to put it in so i can be op

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not zeus sheild tho

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hera bow maybe?

royal widget
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hestia or nemesis

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eris is good too

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hera doesn't need blood to perform well

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but is still good to get

bright sentinel
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Literally flawless rng so far on a hera run

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Aphro attack and cast, Zeus' aid, smoldering air, chaos cast dmg buff, snow burst

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Everything besides snow burst is Epic rarity

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Insane lucky

royal widget
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well she said 6 blood
that's like 100 base right

upper wolf
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Scaling on hestia kinda sucks yeah

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Not sure how you would change it though

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I guess you could just play it like normal rail with just an empowered shot here and there

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If you don't have it maxed you're still on low heat

royal widget
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what does heart rend nem take into ely

stone rune
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zeus or hourglass or something

royal widget
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smair sounds good

latent moon
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it's workable

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100 is minimum to get hestia going imo

slim kelp
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did the epilogue and did a 8 heat run , got boread uninstalled after having all characters hearts unlocked

brisk trail
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U will install it again dw

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Roguelikes moment

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Roguelikes moment

noble vine
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do i need to have the gun equipped to unlock its hidden aspect?

gray apex
vale moss
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what mods should I be installing for speedrunning (i want all core boons offered + ability to set first hammer)

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don't have time to play completely random seed all day
that's a lie i do have time i just dont want to

gray apex
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It's available in the speedrunning discord and resources tab on speedrun.com

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You can join the speedrunning discord through the link pinned in #self-promotion

crystal star
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Are the percent buffs from artemis aph dem etc random

gray apex
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For instance Epic aphro attack is between 90% and 100%

crystal star
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Ok thanks

stone rune
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?

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do you do an extra standing strike

bright sentinel
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is 55s kill on hades decent for base zag spear

hardy spear
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depends what overall run time youre going for

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but definitely not bad

latent moon
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some of my beo dad fights take about that long lmao

drowsy linden
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why is my hellfire exploding right when it lands

possible reasons:
triple bomb
thunder flourish
dem+dio duo
feast

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note: this is consistent

signal aspen
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its thunder flourish

drowsy linden
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someone please suggest a song for me to get
i already have bloodless and god of the dead

royal widget
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last words

drowsy linden
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i have obtained another non beo aspect
only fists and beo remain, and ive only used fists twice

untold crown
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olympusextra updated but I can't get to my PC atm. just curious if anyone's played with it and what hera's boons are

mint coral
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in the blood instrumental so goated

drowsy linden
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i have yet to get beo
i feel like ill get at least 10 heat on shield before it

plush ferry
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I JUST ANVILED INTO CLOCKETS

harsh willow
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Started a new save file, haven't played for probably 1 or 2 years !!

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Immediately fell back in love with it

grave sage
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Do they recycle the death quotes after escaping?

raw herald
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yep

grave sage
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I think my save file has an aversion to zeus boons

crystal star
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Anyone have a build that I might not have tried yet

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A real one though

upper wolf
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Zapfist?

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Oh, full attack damage talos

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Kinda needs either heavy knuckle or concentrated fist though

bright sentinel
noble vine
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how do i complete end to torment? i did everything except for the nyx and meg convos but they just dont pop

drowsy linden
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what would be good with rama
ive got exclusive access as my third boon

crystal star
#

U have dio already

#

And go for aph attack

#

Or ares

drowsy linden
#

i have dio special and pos attack

formal citrus
#

Arti or aphro are the recommended attacks

#

Want big damage going to everyone

#

Rama attack base damage is solid

royal widget
#

is tdash or hunter dash better on Nem

stone rune
#

tdash generally

#

but hdash is good too

#

not good enough to start with or anything but on like shackle start its a viable arty pick over attack

crystal star
drowsy linden
bright sentinel
#

+186% dash strike damage from chaos, +75% damage from shackle
such a weird hestia run so far

#

keep running into aphrodite but never getting a good rarity attack

#

should've just grabbed it at Rare lol

upbeat shard
#

anyone wanna read me and a friends wattpad we'd REALLY appreciate it!
dm me for link

rose roost
#

wha-

void vigil
bright sentinel
#

just got a 21s theseus/minotaur kill

#

i'm rolling with a lambent plume + fists + zeus + hermes movespeed dmg bonus build

latent moon
#

that's basically your shackle

bright sentinel
grave sage
#

I suddenly love guan yu special

upper wolf
#

that's the prefered way to play it for most people xD

#

especially with charging launcher, or whatever the hammer is called

vale moss
#

charged skewer

grizzled current
#

Trying a shackle no god boon run with Stygius

#

||so of course it's the first time I get to fight Charon||

#

Does having a chaos boon take shackle bonus away?

mint coral
#

No

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It has to be on the actual slots to the left

#

And as aside, if you want the dialogue for no boons, you only need to have 0 boons that can be sold, ao any unpurgable is fine

grizzled current
#

So chaos would be fine?

#

Damn I've skipped 3 lmao. Too late noow

#

What do I do now? I need the Satyr sack, and every single tunnel has a boon.

#

I tried rolling the boon off but it just switched between boons.

mint coral
#

Are you using authority?

grizzled current
#

Yeah

mint coral
#

Try entering one and rolling inside

grizzled current
#

I did, the one without the skull at the bottom even

#

And it just switched between dem, Artemis, ares and Poseidon

mint coral
#

Both dem and poseidon have unpurgable boons

#

@grizzled current pray next tunnel has purging pool

#

How many auth rolls you have left

grizzled current
#

None

#

Next three are Aphrodite, Artemis and Hermes

mint coral
#

Still no sack?

grizzled current
#

Doesn't Aphrodite have unpurgable?

#

Yeah I got a sack in the Demeter room

mint coral
#

Aphro doesn't have unpurgable

grizzled current
#

Nice

#

I'm just going to finish, Don't want to wreck my win streak

#

Better luck next time

mint coral
#

Yeah can't save that no boon run

grizzled current
#

stuck with different league from Aphrodite and dem dash.

#

At least I still have the shackle bonus damage

drowsy linden
#

are there any hidden things related to catching legendary fish?
ive caught at least 15 rares and 0 legendaries

stone rune
#

Nyaanyaa's Fishing Guide
There can only be three fake bobs, so the fourth bob is always real if the first three were fake. Fake bobs have an interval of 2-5 seconds while the real bob has an interval of 1-2 seconds. So if it takes more than 2 seconds, it should be a fake bob. Meaning you should look for the real bob within a short time after you start fishing or within a short time after a previous bob.

Personally, I just look for the white flash above the bobber and ignore the bobber itself. Some players have said they have better success when putting their thumb on the bobber to not get distracted by that, so maybe you could give that a try.

A Perfect Catch means catching a fish within 340ms. Perfect Catches are 50/50 on being a legendary or rare fish. Any other catch is 50/50 on being a rare or common fish.

drowsy linden
#

nvm i caught 1 stonewhal

#

im just wondering if my luck is abyssmal or if there's anything else thats preventing me from catching legendaries, because 1 in 15 fish is slightly off of 1 in 2 fish

stone rune
#

are u doing perfect catch

drowsy linden
drowsy linden
#

i have now obtained every single hidden aspect besides beo, which just so happens to be the one i want the most

jagged hamlet
#

I've had streaks of catching the rare (as opposed to legendary) fish despite Perfect Catch. 50:50 ratio can be brutal sometimes

drowsy linden
#

finally, the streak ended with a tart fish
all it took was catching it in like 0.1 seconds

hardy spear
drowsy linden
#

im not sure if all of those were actually perfects(a couple chlams mightve snuck in), but i definitely got at least 10 rares

stone rune
#

it is time to return to anyheat before i go insane

#

for a few weeks

#

if i see one more crossed out mirage i think that might push me over the edge there

#

also slightly related to other developments

hollow timber
#

egg

desert tundra
#

totally not because of my name or anything

stone rune
#

how do you kill the enemies though

latent moon
#

shackle

#

and copius dash strikes

latent moon
#

easy

desert tundra
#

also arthur attacks do lotta dmg

latent moon
#

funnily enough

#

it's a lot faster to spam dash strikes lmao

#

actualy that's prob only with double edge

#

but i never liked arthur's big swings lmao

stone rune
desert tundra
#

I just like big bonks

#

heavy weapons/characters in games have always been my favorite

latent moon
#

some of the heavy weapons in the game are good

#

arthur is generally not considered one of them lmao

plush ferry
#

so I got the epilogue... is it time to go for a fresh file?

stone rune
#

its rlly hard

#

cgull said its about as hard as

#

a little over 50 heat on a bad aspect

plush ferry
#

oh not going for a fresh file win just restarting lmao

latent moon
#

you could if you wanted to

#

most people just play the same file

#

new builds, new personal records, etc

hollow timber
#

egg

bright sentinel
#

what's a fun weapon for a hammer start

latent moon
#

depends what your options are

#

guan yu charged skewer is fun

#

beo with cshot

#

nemesis with double edge

#

zag bow or rama with twin shot

#

luci triple bomb

plush ferry
#

i like delta chamber or rocket bomb on one of the rail aspects

latent moon
#

oh spread fire zag rail

plush ferry
#

spread fire zag rail pog

#

shotgun gaming

bright sentinel
#

just because i never do it

#

+64% special damage vs. +98% damage against undamaged foes is a pretty hard choice

#

i might just do the +64%

bright sentinel
# stone rune special

sweet surrender vs sweet nectar
i'm towards the end of elysium so i'm thinking pom might not have a chance to be as useful

stone rune
#

do u have a flat damage dash

#

or call

#

and what’s your aphrodite core

#

and what’s ss rarity

bright sentinel
#

Epic aphro special
poseidon call
divine dash lol

stone rune
#

id probably still pick sweet nectar but with

#

oh

#

yeah sweet nectar

bright sentinel
#

special is already lv8

stone rune
#

but like with tidal dash zeus call or something the global would be good

stone rune
#

at the very least like 16

wispy sinew
#

Keep acorn on or switch to collar for Styx?

latent moon
#

acorn

#

there's very little reason to use collar in styx

#

going into styx you should only be taking acorn; spearpoint if you struggle with poison a lot
dad call for extra burst dps if safety isn't an issue
skull earring on high heat with SD because you need the dps to make time and can play consistently enough to avoid hits

#

but like 99% of the time you take acorn

wispy sinew
#

I ended up using it I like the extra health on revive but those are my main 2 after switch out god. I will try dps one

latent moon
#

both of them are highly situational and wouldn't recommend generally

wispy sinew
#

Got you I use acor,collar,and whatever boon build I'm doing I will upgrade all them at somepoint

latent moon
#

I wouldn't bother with collar

#

As a defensive keepsake it's pretty underwhelming and outclassed

stiff obsidian
#

does anyone have a short clip of sword attack rotation

crystal star
#

Then special, then repeat

stiff obsidian
#

that doesnt look like a clip

crystal star
#

😁

stone rune
#

collar ok if u have all 3 dd

stiff obsidian
#

oh i found something on yt already

#

but thanks anyway

wispy sinew
#

@stone rune yea I had all 3 that's why I was going back an forth

smoky willow
#

Yo

stone rune
high orbit
#

guysss that's my first hour playing hades i thought its a hard game and it needs a lot of thinking and big brain

#

but its a simple game

#

so far i love it so much

stone rune
#

it can be either

high orbit
#

i got 2 waepons so far the first sword and a bow
i like the bow i got it a upgrade that reduce the range but it shoots 2 arrows

#

thats so nice

void vigil
#

the server has a no-swearing rule, so I have to delete it, sorry !

hollow timber
#

EGGGGG

hollow timber
void vigil
#

if it is not auto filtered by the bot youre good

#

we are not reading and filtering any messages by hand, but that one was a voice message

upper wolf
#

blood and darkness is the superior swear anyway

stone rune
#

those are metroidvanias

#

etg is also a roguelite

#

if u want that

#

but like

#

hades is not really too similar to any other roguelite

#

hollow knight is definitely not like hades

#

you seem to be looking for metroidvanias

#

messenger is good

#

blasphemous seems good

#

bloodstained

sweet peak
#

Any info about Hades II?

stone rune
#

no

sweet peak
#

Ok(

plush ferry
#

there is an animated trailer from 8 months ago if you want to spend some time picking it apart

high orbit
#

i think shield of chaos is the weakest waepon?

stone rune
#

no

high orbit
#

ive just unlocked it and it seems worse than the first sword lol

stone rune
#

u can block

high orbit
#

which key

stone rune
#

hold attack

upper wolf
#

chaos shield is the weakest weapon is you try to use special

#

otherwise idk, probably gilgamesh ?

stone rune
#

well gilga is definitively the worst

high orbit
#

damn holding the attack is kinda nice on it

#

doing combo with spaces

stiff obsidian
#

i remember reading on reddit that chaos is the ultimate op shield aspect when i just started the game so i went super into it

stone rune
#

lol

high orbit
#

is the yellow shield on the enemy is it called armor?

latent moon
#

yeah

high orbit
#

been playing that game for 2 hours and yet didnt face any boss lol

#

when will i face a boss

stone rune
#

have you been dying

high orbit
#

yes

#

like 5 times

stone rune
#

my suggestion is to not die instead

upper wolf
#

remember to always listen to hypnos ! He has great advice to help you

stiff obsidian
#

how does parting shot work exactly?

stone rune
#

cast backstabs and all backstabs get an extra 35% bonus

high orbit
#

i just faced Megaera

#

damn shes so nice

signal aspen
#

and cast backstabs deal 35% more damage

#

its a bug

#

it says backstab but deals no extra damage

stone rune
#

oh

#

🗿

signal aspen
#

like shadow slash

stiff obsidian
#

so the bonus backstab is only for the cast

signal aspen
#

yeah

royal widget
#

bruh

wispy sinew
#

Does addled shot stack with crystal beam?

stone rune
#

yes

wispy sinew
#

Ok thanks man

crystal star
#

New channel pog

stiff obsidian
#

am assuming that used to be a role for winners

#

??

stone rune
#

no it’s a role for getting pinged for the monthly challenge

#

which nyaanyaa maintained

#

who is now banned

stiff obsidian
royal widget
#

WHAT

#

i thouht they left on their own

stone rune
#

no

#

at least afaik

plush ferry
#

how did they get banne

stone rune
#

its comploicated

stiff obsidian
#

i noticed i lose most of my health to the summons/get distracted by them

#

which is why i lose a lot of hades fights

narrow wadi
#

We thinkin Hades II EA gonna come before or after March?

crystal star
hardy spear
#

just use the discord search function and look for "nyaa" or something if you care enough

grizzled current
#

It didn't explain it

#

But it gave a bit of context

stone rune
#

cant rlly explain it, i guess im biased but like nyaanyaa is the entire reason i still play this game on the level i do

#

?

#

idk theres nobody else who wrote like 10 guides for this server

#

well that's you

#

applying what you've been told and what you've read is for me a large part of playing

#

taking advice

#

etc

#

like i learned new manip spots from the vod review i got so i do those now

royal widget
#

choosing where enemies spawn

wispy sinew
#

Oh ok

stone rune
#

you go to specific spots in between waves

#

to make enemies spawn closer together

wispy sinew
#

I will start doing this I didn't know was a thing

royal widget
#

LOL

stone rune
#

you don't really need to do it unless you're going for low times

#

in casual play it doesnt really do anything

wispy sinew
#

When I hundred percent game I'm going for speed run but yea got you

royal widget
#

better to start when you just have full aspect/miror upgrades

wispy sinew
#

I got 50% of mirror done working on other 50% after got while for aspects though

vale moss
#

now im curious because the last time i was in this server (lurking and then left) they were still here

plush ferry
#

all this tea and none of it is being served smh my head

royal widget
#

Enough. Drop the topic of Nyaanyaa Mewmew and move on.

drowsy linden
#

time to bet:
will i get beo before heat 12 shield(heat 7 right now, just got the dialogue for restoring sigil)

spare tartan
#

I hate those rats

#

Bruh

void vigil
#

Late to this but even if she was banned from the server, talking badly about her seems pretty mean and unnecessary to me. so please refrain

spare tartan
#

Anyone else who just abuses their control when they play

stone rune
#

?

spare tartan
#

I be mashing B and Y the whole time im playing

#

No thought no strategy

#

Just big number make brain happy

stone rune
#

i did that a long time ago

#

ye olden days

raw path
#

Yeah I've bound my dash to RB while using the spear and I'm pretty sure my LB is getting jealous now

spare tartan
#

Lmao

#

I dont even use my bumpers

stone rune
#

im on kbm lol

spare tartan
#

Just the triggers occasionally if i have a great call

spare tartan
raw path
#

Yeah I'm on Xbox

#

I've got an idea for a ||Chaos curse and|| boon, if you guys wanna hear me out

raw path
stone rune
#

u dont need to spoil in this channel

raw path
#

👍

#

Shattered: Mirror of Night talents are disabled for 3, 5, 6 encounters
Empowerment: (Legendary?) Damage buffs provided by leveling up boons compound instead of add.

royal widget
#

💀

upper wolf
#

kitchen's on fire I'm pretty sure

#

Routine Inspection is pretty much the worse pact

#

especially the late levels

#

and multiplicative boosts are the best way to break the game in half x)

#

Just look at how powerful crits and base damage are

jagged hamlet
#

RI only deletes the boons you want bleh bleh

upper wolf
#

I think you're mixing up routine inspection and approval process

jagged hamlet
#

Oh oop

upper wolf
#

RI is about removing mirror bonus

latent moon
#

ri removes the boons you want to see by removing boons altogether lmao

upper wolf
#

fair enough zaglol

signal bronze
#

can i do the 210 lyre plays in one go?

#

i already got the voice line from orpheous

#

and its sounding better now

#

idk if i can just do it all now or if i should do a bit every run

#

it takes so long

mint coral
#

There's more than 1 line iirc but yeah

signal bronze
#

i got 2

#

i thought there was only 1

#

maybe 3

#

also how many hours does it take to buy everything from the contractor

#

tempted to download mods

#

some of them are nice

#

its a pain to manage them

#

cba

obsidian linden
#

hello

#

help me choose my new run again

#

first room hammer

#

all bow's choices sucks

#

Beowulf didn't give me projectile shot

#

what should I take?

upbeat walrus
#

speedrun modpack is nice

#

not annoying imo

signal bronze
stone rune
#

dont use vortex

signal bronze
#

ive used mods without vortex but my friends tell me its the best and i should use it but i hate it

upbeat walrus
stone rune
#

you dont need vortex for hades

#

just go by file it's easy

#

let me find instructions

signal bronze
#

i can manage

stone rune
#

well

signal bronze
#

i was just lazy at that time

stone rune
#

instructiosn should be in the modpack download

signal bronze
#

ya

vale moss
#

speedrun mod pack is great can confirm

latent moon
#

oh that looks fun

#

nice aim

vale moss
stone rune
#

i was tired of getting vorimed/ap1d out of tdash

#

so i said might as well do shackle start

latent moon
#

oh that's unmodded

#

since when did you play unmodded

stone rune
#

we were talking about heat

#

and ir ealised

#

im pretty sure the only heat run unmodded ive ever done was thirty two

latent moon
#

oh lmao

stone rune
#

cant do two three four keys cause i have them rebound for routed lol

stone rune
#

uhh

#

i think that was modded

stone rune
#

oh wait

#

i did 33

#

boonless mirrorless

#

that was unmodded

#

so thats my max unmodded heat

#

LOL

hardy spear
#

ive got 50 heat unmodded ( a grave mistake)

stone rune
#

i tried 54 unmodded a little

#

and then got bull midboss

#

its just too much of a time dedication

#

reset for 1/4 attack

#

and then like

#

idk

#

play the game

#

too boring

#

i prefer reset for 1/100 in anyheat

#

because clearly thats engaging and fun

vale moss
#

ive done 50 unmodded like once

#

it was lame

hardy spear
#

attempted or completed?

vale moss
#

completed

#

lucky ass zeus run

#

splitting bolts and unhealthy fixation in the same room, and smoldering air

#

also charged shot

hardy spear
#

nice

hardy spear
#

legacy is a scam

vale moss
#

it's good if you're going for a specific duo ig

hardy spear
#

just be lucky instead

vale moss
#

but
i wasn't going for any duos

drowsy linden
#

won 35-1 against than, i feel like a dissappointment

jagged hamlet
#

I have a confession to make: I kinda enjoy the Zagreus aspect of the rail

stone rune
#

it’s fun

#

bad eris is boring but spread fire fun

jagged hamlet
#

I've yet to try it with spread fire. I've mostly just been enjoying having lots of pew pews

stiff obsidian
#

can you charge call while using it?

stone rune
#

no

#

well

#

i know you can’t charge it such that the charge will be used

#

during the same call

#

idk if u can build a reserve for your next call but i’d also assume not

stiff obsidian
#

i could swear it was charging while i was using greater call

dark coyote
#

I reached the surface for the first time

#

Idk if this counts as a spoiler or not so imma

#

||and I got Lord Hades down to half HP on my first try
I was stuck and Theseus or whatever and Minos for a long time||

#

Then I never reached it again so far lol

#

Also hello everyone, I am new here

#

Oh and I once lost all my rewards by beating up to the second boss with a weapon that I haven't reached that far with
By clicking the surrender button in the menu
I thought it would send me home
It sent me to the main menu 😭 I should've just let some monster kill me
I didn't want to continue the run

#

||how do I get past the bull and the champion, I am getting better at fighting them but I still end up blowing both revives and the skelly revive there every time||

knotty glacier
knotty glacier
stiff obsidian
#

how much dmg reduction is arthur special

#

?

#

from*

knotty glacier
#

Minimum 20% without upgrades

#

Maximum 40%

stiff obsidian
#

max

#

nice

knotty glacier
#

Goes well with Aphro attack or dash

stiff obsidian
#

doesnt damage reduction stack multiplicatively?

knotty glacier
#

Yes

#

But still

#

Aphro has high % attack boost

#

And if you get her legendary that's 15% chance of charming the foe on every attack

stiff obsidian
#

yea she cracked

dark coyote
#

I'll keep that in mind, ty

stiff obsidian
stone crane
stiff obsidian
#

45

stone crane
#

Rip

#

At least it's in Tartarus

stiff obsidian
stiff obsidian
#

i actually took that run to styx but got shafted by a 5 sack

stiff obsidian
#

so many ping

#

@brisk trail

#

@brisk trail what aspect is that

#

i havent

#

oh

#

i cant dash strike well so i just use arthur

wicked aspen
#

I'm baffled but I respect it

stiff obsidian
#

idk man it works

#

for some reason its one of my fastest

wicked aspen
#

Reject dash, return to big stab

stiff obsidian
#

the larger range and wide arc make it more comfortable

#

if that makes sense

#

with the other swords i keep getting standing strikes in when i try to dash strike

#

maybe i should force myself to use it

stone rune
#

yea

#

sure

#

kill them

#

press right mouse

#

have ddash

#

go over gaps

#

cast

#

dash across gap

#

or through a wall

#

or something

mint coral
#

dash atk too

wispy sinew
#

For me to get megs companion ehat do I got to do next? She was in my room and the relationship things went up an unlocked. Just give her ambrose?

mint coral
#

yes

wispy sinew
#

Ok an to get aurther aspect what do I do? Nyx isn't saying anything just keep repeating?

#

What prerequisite

#

Yea

#

Ok

upper wolf
#

can't think of a single flamewheel room with nowhere to get them to crash and die

sharp stone
#

Hades game actor au

bright sentinel
#

As opposed to wrong mouse

latent moon
#

Yeah that makes sense

grizzled current
#

Hoarding slash op though

#

I saw that someone beat 64 unmodded unseeded, but can they do it with hoarding slash

raw herald
#

no

stone rune
#

people could do routed with flurry cursed though

vale moss
#

i use a cheated file for my runs lmao

grizzled current
#

I have all the aspects and I don't remember how

vale moss
#

i got most of them normally

grizzled current
#

I remember ||chaos, Achilles and Asterius all having lines for unlocking aspects||

vale moss
#

but never arthur or luci

vale moss
#

and yeah i think gilga is killing asterius no?

#

like in miniboss chamber

stone crane
#

Well it's obvious what that spoiler is cause the name is so short 😂

vale moss
#

i told my friend to get hestia first

#

trying to breed a new generation of hestia lovers

#

not really i just said it was fun and he saw me running with it and liked it

grizzled current
#

But I don't remember who unlocked what except for ||Asterius unlocking the aspect of Gilgamesh||

plush ferry
#

nyx - sword
achilles - spear
chaos - shield
artemis - bow
asterius (midboss) - fists
zeus - gun

vale moss
#

which sword does she comment on

plush ferry
#

have to unlock achilles first before others appear

vale moss
#

a or n?

grizzled current
#

I get spoilers might be okay but when I played through, I didn't like reading people talking about unlocking ||companions or aspects because I wanted to figure it all out myself||

plush ferry
#

you can pick up aspect of nemesis as soon as you unlock spending titan blood

drowsy linden
#

how many times do i have to see ||chaos after restoring the sigil before they go back to normal dialogue||

#

im still waiting for the day i get beo

grizzled current
vale moss
grizzled current
#

||Or Nyx is there with Chaos and tells me to GTFO||

vale moss
#

damn