#h1-discussion

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zinc atlas
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I also bought access to the administration but there is nothing important

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I always talk to nyx when I can

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I talk to everyone actually

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Is it so unlikely?

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Because I haven't gotten it for like

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10 times

wind robin
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look it up on the wiki

latent moon
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I think even with full hearts there's still some dialogue with those two? I could be misremembering tho

abstract torrent
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I just got a legendary boon while still in tartarus lmao

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ares

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3 perfect luck ares boons in tartarus

abstract torrent
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why is elysium harder than styx

latent moon
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Endless bluemen moment

abstract torrent
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also I picked up two ares and two artemis boons after meeting the requirements for their duo boon and didnt get it lol

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or it was 3 ares and 1 artemis, but I think it was two of each

latent moon
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It do be like that sometimes

abstract torrent
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ye

abstract torrent
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or whatever theyre called

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chariots

proud oasis
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Great wheels

abstract torrent
gray apex
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Correct

abstract torrent
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dont really understand why they made it that way tbh

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especially if you have the sniper hammer

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Charged Shot thats what its called

gray apex
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They thought it would be too op

abstract torrent
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fair Beowulf is already amazing lol

latent moon
gray apex
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That is sarcasm for what is worth

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Slicing Flare might be the worst flare for beowulf

abstract torrent
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oh right the duration

grizzled current
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At what point does Stygius Poseidon fall off?

abstract torrent
grizzled current
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Like what heat does it start being actually difficult

latent moon
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Maybe 45

gray apex
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Would say around 50

abstract torrent
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I've killed Meg with 3 rushes with slicing flare

grizzled current
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I struggle to clear with every other weapon

latent moon
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Just build ME on it

grizzled current
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But with Stygius I can clear fine with record times

gray apex
latent moon
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I'd argue icy is worse

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But yeah both suck

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Slicing flare is damage over time rather than the burst it wants

gray apex
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And the thing that makes Beo stand out is insane burst damage. When you pair it with Slicing Flare you just remove the burst.

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And the damage

latent moon
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Also it takes longer to get your casts back

latent moon
grizzled current
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Zagreus trespasses on a farm, stepping on a farming tool which strikes him in the head fatally.

latent moon
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So like

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Not terrible damage imo but it's how the damage is dealt

grizzled current
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At least he didn't get eaten by a bear this time

gray apex
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Well yea the numbers might be high on the tooltip

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If you look at icy flare for instance

latent moon
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We don't look at that

gray apex
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The numbers are low on the tooltip but in practice they're insanely high

abstract torrent
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hmm does Poseidons legendary Second Wave work with Flood Flare?

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its not listed as a requirement

gray apex
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Ngl im not even sure

latent moon
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I think it does but it's pretty pointless

abstract torrent
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fair

gray apex
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The boon you're aiming for with Flood is Mirage Shot

latent moon
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The knockback is so little and they'd be dead anyways

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Ideally at least

upper wolf
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I feel like everyone makes that mistake at first

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NGL I like that dash is not a requirement, ME is strong enough as it is

mint coral
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It was a requirement before yeah

grizzled current
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Merciful end?

sour fog
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athena ares duo

abstract torrent
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what is my luck today lmao

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I've gotten a legendary in tartarus twice

tropic agate
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I've gotten three because of persuasion

grizzled current
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I've noticed sometimes I can reroll all I want and I get the same things, is there a way to tell when I can roll for a god instead?

latent moon
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miniboss doors are guaranteed to be boons so you can reroll those

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otherwise there's no guarantee that you'll reroll into a god

grizzled current
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If the door has a god already will it always roll into other gods?

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6 Athena boons and not a single duo/legendary this run. Rip

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But I do have an extra cast and 57% cast damage from Chaos, so should be fine

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No fish :/

latent moon
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it's just that miniboss doors will always offer a god, so no matter how many times you reroll, it'll always be a god

grizzled current
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Okay 👍

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"The snake greets zagreus with its fangs"

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Love these snippets lol

crystal star
grizzled current
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Yeah

crystal star
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If you dont get the right boons you cant get legos or duos

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Are you sure?

grizzled current
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100% sure lol

crystal star
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The boon will be highlighted green in the codex

grizzled current
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Yeah I know

crystal star
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You are using the codex right?

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Oh

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L

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Miniboss rooms will only roll into gods

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Besides that, the only way to guarantee anything with rolls

grizzled current
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Had Poseidon aid, didn't get mirage shot. Had heartbreak flourish, didn't get heart rent. Had support fire and exit wounds, didn't get fully loaded

crystal star
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Is if its a blue laurel it can only be replaced with other blue laurel items

grizzled current
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Bad luck I guess

crystal star
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If its gold it can only be replaced with gold laurel items

grizzled current
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And I had every single Artemis boon under the sun

crystal star
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Im 75 percent sure on that

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Try gods legacy

grizzled current
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I was

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Been using it forever for the duo boon prophecy

crystal star
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Massive L

grizzled current
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Can't reroll Charon or the ! Rooms

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Don't understand lol. I have 5 coins

buoyant harbor
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You also cannot reroll bosses for obvious reasons.

grizzled current
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Shucks, wanted to skip lernie this time around.

grizzled current
buoyant harbor
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It's generally recommended to take the other side of the mirror on that one, so you can actually reroll the boons you're shown.

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Unless you're specifically farming resources

grizzled current
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Like just now I had Athena, don't want her so I rolled it off and it switched between obol-centaur-obol.

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And it's been my experience that it keeps repeating no matter how many times I roll it

twin thistle
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authority doesnt really help much for farming since you cant reroll gold laurel rooms into resources. you want persuasion anyways to reroll chaos or poseidon for darkness increasing boons

grizzled current
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Game bugged out on the barge of death, one of my casts went missing

stiff obsidian
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what is stun

crystal star
stiff obsidian
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yes

crystal star
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Stinky poo poo

twin thistle
stiff obsidian
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that counts as stun?

twin thistle
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yeah

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ig theres also stuff like dad pots

stiff obsidian
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so sturdy provides stun immunity

twin thistle
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actually maybe unshakable refers to just dad pots idk i never take it

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pretty sure dad pots still stun you from sturdy like hypersprint but youll ignore interruptions from getting hit

stiff obsidian
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only good for selling then

short glen
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I heard someone got an unseeded 64 or something recently?

hardy spear
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yeah

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angel1c

short glen
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Impressive

meager shuttle
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Yea

mint coral
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Still a banger thumbnail

stiff obsidian
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where can i find the hp of all enemies

tropic agate
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I have only erebus left in codex

royal widget
stiff obsidian
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found it on the wiki alreay

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dy

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ive asked this before but do yarns stack

royal widget
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idts

tropic agate
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Nope they don't

royal widget
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as in

tropic agate
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They go for individual boons

royal widget
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only one wil be used up

stiff obsidian
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that makes sense

stone rune
lean ember
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im not sure where this belongs so im gonna ask here, what did supergiant use to make the visual effects for hades

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like for the attacks and boon animations and stuff

stiff obsidian
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thanks

lean ember
grizzled current
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Imagine underworld customs took a random boon

stone rune
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7.87

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damn

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every time i think im set for a cracked lernie fight it's like

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24

stiff obsidian
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do damage reducers work on the tight deadline dmg ticks

latent moon
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No

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Or well it shouldn't

stiff obsidian
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yes i learnt that the hard way

latent moon
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No point in thinking about it tbh lmao

stiff obsidian
stoic lagoon
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tell me why i beat hades and i return to the house and hear orpheus singing the most beautiful enchanting haunting song to ever bless my ears

grizzled current
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Welcome to Hades

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I had one keepsake not unlocked, it was Sisyphus.

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Took me way too long to figure that out lol

stone rune
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thats a good one

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beam bow 2 stronk

mint coral
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beam bow gaming? dusa

stone rune
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i gave up mid ely because it's so annoying

royal widget
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is there a recording anywhere

stone rune
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go play it

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jank as hell

pliant crane
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having to restart hades save file sucks

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switched platforms i played it on

stone rune
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are u going onto pc

pliant crane
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well i switched from gamepass > steam and havent played in months because it got removed off gamepass

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almost beat hades for the first time on this save file

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i have only 1 death defiance and i forgot there was a second phase

uneven cloak
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Bought all the themes related to boss drops

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I can finally stop using Obols on House currencies!

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Except darkness and gems on pools maybe but at least those dont tally up to 1000/1200 obols not going into improving the run

twin thistle
tepid plover
obsidian linden
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Hey

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Coming back from days of dadss kicking

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Another how to start question

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Spear

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Hammer first room

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Achille spear give me Massive Spin, Breaking Skewer and Flaring Spin

mint coral
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Massive spin for the memes, otherwise that's a ron selection of hammers

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I would just press give up and see what the other weapons have for the hammer

obsidian linden
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Yeah
I wanted my Flurry Jab so much

mint coral
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Can also take breaching skewer and hope the 2nd hammer has flurry

obsidian linden
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My Zeus Chainsaw

obsidian linden
obsidian linden
mint coral
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Bow has the most consistent hammers but idk, maybe zag rail for spread fire?

obsidian linden
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Twin Shot sound cool

mint coral
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Or shield for charged shot beo

obsidian linden
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I'm not doing any more Beo

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Too much setup

mint coral
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Sword for double edge too

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Idk just check anything and grab what seems more fun than your spear hammers lol

obsidian linden
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The triple attack ?

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That good !?!

mint coral
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-6 bullets, rail has a short range but bullets do 40 dmg

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Zag rail best for it bc of the extra bullets

obsidian linden
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How, that thing

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I never use it

mint coral
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Is fun

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Without zag rail is really weird bc of how often you need to reload

obsidian linden
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Aphrodite or another god ?

mint coral
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Arti if you don't wanna play ME

obsidian linden
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ME ?

mint coral
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Merciful end

obsidian linden
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Yeah, I'm still not into that

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Sorry gods of war

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I'm going to sleep
Coming back later

plain trail
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How does Bad News (Legendary Hermes Boon) work with Slicing Shot?

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Does it boost all damage the blade deals?

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Oh I read it better

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Yeah it's very good

sour fog
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Bad News is actually apparently bugged in that it boosts all damage to targets without cast in them, not just cast damage

mint coral
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Common hyper delivery in the form of a legendary

stiff obsidian
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does hypersprint rd bonus activate while dashing or only after

mint coral
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While dashing

stiff obsidian
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nice

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just got my first 5-6 second heroes

raw herald
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Beowulf moment

stiff obsidian
desert jewel
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guys !!! I got Guan yu does that means I can unlock any last weapon aspect now ?

mint coral
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Yes

winged valve
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there's still some extra dialogue for each one, which you may or may not have already done

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it took me a bunch of runs after guan yu was unlocked to be able to unlock some of them

desert jewel
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alright thanks

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I randomly got guan yu without trying to get it

winged valve
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yeah, i mean it's pretty common to have that happen, each unlock is just a couple of conversations with specific people, often you need ot have a specific weapon equipped during the encounter

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it's pretty easy to do randomly but also you could miss it, especially since these things dont' trigger reliably

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can always look on the wiki to double check how to unlock specific ones

grave sage
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What is "Big shopping trip, Too" title for

mint coral
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Visited all midshops I think?

grave sage
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Trying to get second wave for the prophecy but I'm getting literally everything but second wave, even bad news showed up

gray apex
grave sage
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For some reason poseidon just stops showing up after tartarus

gray apex
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That’s just rng

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Try filling up your god pool asap

vagrant sundial
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does anyone have a link to the hades speedrunning discord? the one on speedrun.com dosent work for some reason

latent moon
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also when you join let them know that it's broken there lmao

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they should be able to fix it

vagrant sundial
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alright cool thank you!

slim leaf
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did 2 achievements

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Im 47/49

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latent moon
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Or you miss aspho midshop because bad rooms

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Or accidentally skip it because you saw Hermes and picked it immediately without looking at the other door because you thought it was too early for midshop to appear even tho you took a chaos gate

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Def not speaking from experience

stone rune
latent moon
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It's okay I got Rd out of it

stone rune
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or you bought an ix in tart

latent moon
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It was Ely lmao

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So it was kinda cringe but oh well

grizzled current
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Shops/boon purging stations are always a set spawn?

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Is it based off a certain Amount of rooms you've cleared?

gray apex
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Purging wells require you to have atleast 3 purgable boons

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Wells of Charon have no requirment if I'm not mistaken

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You should get 1 per biome but I think you can skip it

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So it's not like a guarantee

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I remember it vaguely but not sure where I saw the info so I cant double check it

grizzled current
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I played 3 rounds, two with spear and one with Stygius/poseidon aspect. Lost all 3. Got upset that I suck at the game at bad boon luck and got off

twin thistle
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do you use god keepsakes for tart/aspho

grizzled current
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Yep

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Got cast and seeking arrow then didn't see a third boon from her until Styx and had to choose between dislodge and fully loaded

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Out of three chaos gates only one gave me bonus cast dmg, every other option sucked.

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Didn't help that I started with a hammer instead of a boon

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Maybe the game is telling me to get good instead of relying on getting 5 Artemis boons in tartarus

twin thistle
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prob would be easier going for a lightning phalanx build instead of trying to get to so much artemis, should also be better for room clear and your attack can be useful if you get jolted on top of zeus attack

loud sigil
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bouldy hello peebles I love Hades. shadeohboy 💕

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once I went to my friends house and did a victory run with Hermes' gift and he got mad :3

loud sigil
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nah, nvm

mint coral
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lmao first time I had theseus block Meg

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oops

mint coral
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60 max hp with 1 dd into ely with achilles

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I'm 100% dying bouldy

latent moon
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Just don't die

mint coral
latent moon
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Easy

grave sage
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Is poseidon chiron special good?

royal widget
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Best one imo

stone rune
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in the grand scheme of chiron it's one of the better ones

bright sentinel
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game just made me choose between euridyce, poseidon aphro duo room, and chaos gate

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when i'm using hera bow

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man.

stone rune
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probably just chaos

mint coral
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trial can't offer anything good really

stone rune
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yeah trial sucks

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unless you have deadly strike and could get tempest flourish ig

bright sentinel
obsidian linden
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I still don't believe Charged Volley is bad

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Like, I'm blind or something

royal widget
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LMAO

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i now know i'm unable to savescum the anvil

latent moon
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rama and chiron can't get charged volley

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hera, the bulk of your damage is the cast

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zag bow, just crit lmao

upper wolf
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zag bow has the highest DPS if you just crit everytime 4Head

stiff obsidian
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does swift strike charge bow faster

obsidian linden
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My best Hades ever was on that

stone rune
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so it’s useless

stiff obsidian
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guh

obsidian linden
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And I didn't know about rush delivery at that time

stone rune
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or like

stiff obsidian
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my best hades run was with beo

stone rune
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a normal zagbow or hera build

obsidian linden
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Only reach the strat 2 time

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Beo is fun when setup

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Not before

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Zeus x Zeus is 10 times easyier

latent moon
latent moon
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front half for sure, after that idk how well it'd scale compared to hera

stone rune
latent moon
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i mean yeah but also hera is already one bursting as well

stone rune
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yea

latent moon
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both are already one shotting tart and aspho, ely is kinda sus

royal widget
peak dune
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for some reason i cant figure out how to get rib (the skelly companion)
i completed the favor a while ago and recently started playing the game again but i dont have rib? i dont remember whether I gave ambrosia to skelly but i think i did
the companion should be placed in one of the slots under all the keepsakes right?

upper wolf
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yeah

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you probably forgot to give him ambrosia

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that would be my guess

peak dune
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it isn't giving me the option to give him ambrosia tho

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OH wait

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im dumb it does LMAO

echo phoenix
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Woah, he's just as petty as me!

stiff obsidian
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why are my hera casts landing behind the enemy

stone rune
stiff obsidian
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i see

stone rune
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you have to undershoot

stiff obsidian
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im using flurry

stone rune
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oh

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yeah don’t take blown kiss on flurry

stiff obsidian
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exclusive access + yarn stack for heroic?

royal widget
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Nope

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i wish

stiff obsidian
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aw

tepid plover
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that was quite the amount of enemies

sour fog
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lmao

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that must've been painful

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skulls?

tepid plover
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nah, jury summons 3 plus 41% enemies from chaos sick_monke

sour fog
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oy

winged trail
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I just decided to mess with the idea of making my own fun little run ending death thing.
I wanna make an edit of one of the run endings in Hades. I'd just call it "Bizarre".

BIZARRE

"After defeating his lord father, yet again, Prince Zagreus continued on, only to be struck by a rather eccentric vampire. After a long-fought battle, the Prince found himself suddenly crushed to death by a bizarre vehicle."
"Wha?!"
(cue the death tone as Zagreus returns to the House)
"... Road roller?"

pure karma
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Cruel Thrust affects dash strike?

formal citrus
pure karma
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It is literally a thrust though wth

formal citrus
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It's just a gentle shove with sword

winged trail
pure karma
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everything is a jojo reference

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Breathing is a jojo reference because of Hamon

winged trail
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I had another idea involving a painted tunnel that Zagreus slams into face-first.

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All while chasing an annoying bird.

pure karma
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You can kinda do that with the bull though

winged trail
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The painted tunnel? With the bull?

pure karma
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He is charing at you and you dash over a column and he just charshes into it

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it is hilarious

winged trail
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I was trying to make a fakeout ending that references Looney Tunes.

pure karma
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I know

sour fog
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that's a real ending

proud oasis
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Alright I have defeated hades with aspect of Arthur on 16 heat, only 34 heat to go

latent moon
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Are you planning to do 50 heat on Arthur

proud oasis
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Someone told me Arthur sucks and then that if Arthur is so good I should beat 50 heat with it

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And I really like Arthur so I guess now I have to do that

latent moon
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Oh lmao

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I mean it's not impossible to do it on 50 heat

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Just a lot more difficult lmao

proud oasis
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I knoooww

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I’m still on like 8 heat bounty with 16 heat lmao

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I tried out the heavy bow and I don’t really like it

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Ehh I probably just have to get used to it

proud oasis
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Noooo my worst enemy

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Acronyms that I don’t understand

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No really what’s dc and td3

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Looking up dc hades doesn’t really help

latent moon
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they're abbrevations for the pacts

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dc is damage control, td is tight deadline, etc

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it's just the first letters of each word on the pact

proud oasis
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Ah, thank you

latent moon
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hl is hard labor, lc is lasting consequences, etc

proud oasis
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I see

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On my 16 heat run I put on the thing that gives armored enemies buffs and went into a room full of numbskulls with the damage control buff

latent moon
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it do be like that sometimes

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also here's this if you want to take a look

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Dad fight was quite scary after 20 minutes on timer, especially the last laser you see on thumbnail. Double Edge and Chaos were some solid offensive picks and Athena on the defensive pick. I did not take 2nd hammer on purpose: it would be unfortunate if I get either cursed slash or dash nova.

EM4 encounter guide: https://docs.google.com/documen...

▶ Play video
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wr heat for arthur

proud oasis
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Oh wow

latent moon
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yeah arthur do be kinda hard

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get some good rng

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for 50 it's very highly recommended to have a hell mode save btw

proud oasis
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I do not have that

latent moon
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are you on pc?

proud oasis
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I am not

latent moon
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ah rip

proud oasis
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Why would being on hell mode help

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Hell mode sounds hard

latent moon
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well

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it's 50 heat

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also the 1 heat from personal liability actually is super important

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because otherwise you have to take 1 heat somewhere else and at that point there aren't good options

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and personal liability isn't that big of a deal 98% of the time

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at 50 you're already maxing out the pacts that it forces you to turn on

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hl1, lc1, js1, cp1, and pl
cp1 is the one you dont want to max, but if you dont use a hell mode save you have to max it

proud oasis
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Aww switching saves is somewhat inconvenient

latent moon
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yeah but cp2 on arthur will kinda shaft you lol

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you'll run out of time

proud oasis
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What if I didn’t do td

latent moon
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it'll be a lot harder

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you'll have to take ap2 and/or some levels of ri

proud oasis
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2-3 levels of ri doesn’t sound that bad

upper wolf
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isn't RI3 where you lose stubborn defiance ?

latent moon
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ri3 you lose your second dash

proud oasis
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No just yeah that

upper wolf
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oh yeah

latent moon
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so that is very bad

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especially on arthur

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no td but ap2

proud oasis
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Oh god what is that ui

latent moon
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with td3 it's 48

proud oasis
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I see

latent moon
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it's just convenient for pacts on the go

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i dont want to open the game lmao

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unironically it's easier to take td

proud oasis
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Fair

upper wolf
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why is arthur's dash strike hitbox so janky

latent moon
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yeah it feels like it should be farther that it looks lmao

upper wolf
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I guess swing 2 & 3 of the standing attack stole all the hitbox

proud oasis
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Alright

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Forgot I can’t send pictures

latent moon
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if you dont want to take td3 you can be ab it cursed and do td2

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and ri2

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has to be hell mode tho

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otherwise you can take cp2

latent moon
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but also uh

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ap2 ri2 isn't fun

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arthur isn't fun but we'll ignore that

proud oasis
latent moon
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lmao

proud oasis
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I will now do 50 heat run and die in first room

latent moon
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i mean arthur is fun/fine at middle heats and like casual play

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but when you try to push for heat or speed, it falls off

proud oasis
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I have lost 64 health in the first room

latent moon
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and it's mostly because of the slow wind ups

latent moon
proud oasis
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I died

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Twice

latent moon
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Nice

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Are you using stubborn defiance lc4

proud oasis
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What

latent moon
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Actually it just occurred to me that you haven't done 32 heat yet lmao

proud oasis
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I have uh

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Lc 1

latent moon
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Oh you're doing a cursed 50 pact

proud oasis
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What is cursed

latent moon
#

I recommend reading my guide pinned in #h1-high-heat-strategies for a 32 pact since that's probably your next reasonable goal lmao

latent moon
proud oasis
#

Noted

latent moon
#

Lc4 is basically required past 32

proud oasis
#

But I like healing

signal aspen
#

use guan yu

latent moon
#

Read the guide and it'll explain how to "heal"

#

Or use guan yu

proud oasis
#

No >:((( Arthur gaming

signal aspen
#

use cursed slash

proud oasis
#

First room dadelus did not give me cursed slash

#

Yay Erebus hate this will surely be a good idea

#

Gate

#

Ok I died for real this time

#

32 heat it is

#

Just to be clear, Pom flower is the play here right

pure karma
proud oasis
#

?

proud oasis
#

Keepsakes

#

Should I use a different one

signal aspen
#

are you starting pom flower?

proud oasis
#

Yeah?

signal aspen
#

thats bad

proud oasis
#

Ok

signal aspen
#

start a god keepsake

#

probably like aphro since you are using arthur

#

get her attack

proud oasis
#

They are all at level one

signal aspen
#

thats fine

pure karma
proud oasis
#

Someone told me to get cursed slash to counteract lc4

sour fog
#

not on arthur surely

pure karma
#

lmao what

#

2 hp per hit, you hit once every 3 years and you lose 60% of your hp, which is the whole point of arthur.

latent moon
proud oasis
#

Ok I’m doing a 32 heat run based entirely on my own opinion

pure karma
#

Slow but huge hp pool

latent moon
pure karma
proud oasis
#

Where is it

#

It’s not in pins

latent moon
proud oasis
#

i found it

#

sorry

pure karma
#

Do you have Beowulf @proud oasis

proud oasis
#

n9o

#

i have uh

#

the bow trhe spear and the stabby stick

#

i mean sword

#

arthur is mah favourite

pure karma
#

Arthur is cool yeah but it doesnt work as well the higher you go in heat

#

Especially with FO2 and DC2

mint coral
latent moon
#

Don't take dc2 on Arthur bouldy

pure karma
proud oasis
#

ill look at the stratagy guide if i ever dont make it past tartarus in a run

latent moon
#

The 57 doesn't take it iirc

#

And he's shooting for 50

#

No reason to take dc2

#

Dc literally cripples Arthur effectiveny

pure karma
#

I meeant eh higher you go

latent moon
#

Same way hestia does

pure karma
#

if you are going as hiugh as possible

latent moon
#

57 is wr

proud oasis
#

ok i lost 2 death defiances

#

time to look at that guide

pure karma
#

switch tostubborn

proud oasis
#

no like in the same room

#

i am not good at this game

#

oh god hte guide is in darkmode

stiff obsidian
#

chill affect move speed or atk speed too?

#

that cracked

latent moon
#

Easier to read and color code too

proud oasis
#

i turned it on its fine

hardy spear
#

man i cannot get a sub 9 on fists

stone rune
#

do zap

hardy spear
#

what do i put on the dash

stone rune
#

tdash

#

its zap

hardy spear
#

had a zap fists rin that got 9:15 the other day with like lv6 jolted

stone rune
#

lvl6 jolted is not a build

hardy spear
#

among other things

stone rune
#

for zap it just feels bad without rd

hardy spear
#

but not a good dash

#

or rd

stone rune
#

or at least dashes

hardy spear
#

was going for smair but didnt get it after like 5 boons

#

after having the pre reqs

#

trying to get ME up and running is pain

crystal star
twin thistle
#

just dont get infinite naked witches

stone rune
#

get vod review

#

it’s not

#

bombers missed meg is 6-7s timeloss

#

max

#

how you gonna miss doomstone meg

#

sneak meg is super free tho

#

i guess it could be bad if you miss and don’t have hammer

#

and then

#

are you dash striking

#

you should standing strike

#

dash strike can knock it out

latent moon
#

What times are you shooting for

stone rune
#

basically every seed ever invented is a 215 tart exit theres gonna be places for you to optimize your play for sure

#

you play pc right

latent moon
#

That's what vod reviews are for lmao

stone rune
#

get a vod review

latent moon
#

Or like

#

Bang your head on the wall more

#

It'll happen eventually

stone rune
#

the sub6 method

latent moon
#

Exactly

mint coral
#

Just don't play the biome is the answer

stone rune
#

idk man

#

how did you get midshop into chaos

latent moon
#

Sounds like unarmored witches and numbskulls

stone rune
#

you can always just reset the obscene rooms

#

if i see unarmored numbskull xtrap i reset

mint coral
#

Xtrap room is so sad

stone rune
#

the bad one

#

but not the long or square one

#

it has a trap in the middle

#

long gaps on either side

#

circle around

#

yea

#

99% of the time you can tell

#

just get a vod review

compact sundial
#

brothers, I am getting desperate. I cannot, for the life of me, ever get the Defiance boon from Chaos. it just doesn't spawn. I have done every tactic, am I missing something very obvious?

stone rune
#

not bad

compact sundial
#

😦

#

thanks

stone rune
#

just take favor/yarn/nectar

#

legacy

#

and get 2 chaos

#

roll down the second one

#

2 chaos is the hard part

#

otherwise it’s just like a way easier way of rolling down for a legendary

compact sundial
#

I've seen people say it still spawns no matter what defiance you stat with, this is right?

stone rune
#

yes

compact sundial
#

thanks

#

only way I can get 2 chaos is with buying the thing from well of charon

latent moon
#

If your focus is tart then a couple would be fine probably

#

Like 2 or 3 max

stone rune
#

stick 4 tarts together

#

a run has 4 biomes

latent moon
#

Tart simulator fr

stone rune
#

i could do like live review

#

heard they used to do that

#

in ye olden days

royal widget
#

Is chaos defiance better than Athena when you're on SD?

stone rune
#

they’re the same

signal aspen
#

i mean its like the same thing except with athena you dont have +60% more enemies for 4 rooms

royal widget
#

oh

#

so it doesn't recharge

mint coral
#

Is still a death defiance yeah

compact sundial
#

wtf I literally just got it. I've been trying for a week.

#

Only took 1 chaos boon

stone rune
#

gg

compact sundial
#

gg brothers 🫡

wide void
#

i just got a legendary chaos boon???
those are in the game???????

#

you can get MORE death defiances???????

stone rune
#

from chaos yea

#

and refills from well and athena

#

and can get extra dd from athena and chaos on sd

light gull
#

whats a fun build with unupgraded hera bow

stone rune
#

crush shot

#

pom it a lot

#

that’s it

light gull
#

this is fun

stone rune
#

yep

light gull
#

i tried it with dios cast cuz i thought that more damage would be good but crush shot feels way better

mint coral
#

Wait for beowulf if you wannna see fun dio cast

light gull
uneven cloak
#

After fishing for so long, I've finally realized a pattern when it bobs or when it catches

#

when it takes forever to do the catch, it's a bob

#

then it resets back to 0

#

until it goes to the 4th which is guaranteed or is an earlier catch

proud oasis
#

i decided to try the thunder sheild thingy

#

its very fun

latent moon
#

zeus^2 kinda good

proud oasis
#

this thing does a positively silly amount of damage per second

#

also helps that i got double strike and zeus's legendary boon

oak lily
#

I tried the Zeus aspect & Poseidon's shield, not half bad against normal mobs

latent moon
#

static discharge also kinda good if you get that

oak lily
#

Gives some decent AOE knockback if you angle it right

latent moon
#

pos attack is certainly a choice

#

the base attack already has enough knockback lol

oak lily
#

i meant Poseidon's special lol

latent moon
#

oh

#

that's not much better lmao

#

not doing a lot of damage

oak lily
#

Eh i like it, knockback on wheels

latent moon
#

you're using a shield
just block the flamewheels lmao

oak lily
#

i havent beaten a run what do i know

latent moon
#

try zeus special on zeus shield

proud oasis
#

it is very silly

latent moon
#

get static discharge and pom that a lot

proud oasis
#

and goofy

latent moon
#

very strong

proud oasis
#

everyone i see becomes dead

latent moon
#

one of the most consistent builds in the game

#

and you still maintain high dps

oak lily
#

I cant find a weapon i like that i find pretty fun

proud oasis
#

although i will say

latent moon
#

if you build the aspects right then it can be pretty fun

proud oasis
#

it doesnt feel like anything else does much damage at all

oak lily
#

Like i sort of enjoy the bow, but dear god it feels very ineffective if you don't go for the charge shots

#

and also not better since i'm playin on controller lol

latent moon
#

wdym by "charge shots"

proud oasis
#

i like aspect of arthur

latent moon
#

power shots?

proud oasis
#

yeah

latent moon
#

you're supposed to power shot

#

dash strike into the power shot

proud oasis
#

yeah but timing is hard

latent moon
#

it'll charge faster

proud oasis
#

its like incineroars side special

latent moon
proud oasis
#

oh yeah i forgot he was there

latent moon
oak lily
#

Not on my PS4 controller it doesn't

latent moon
#

are you dash striking for your power shots

oak lily
#

Maybe its drifting and i never noticed

proud oasis
#

GOOD GRAVY

#

I JUST NOTICED

latent moon
#

might be drift

proud oasis
#

APHRODITE IS NOT WEARING ANY CLOTHES

oak lily
#

no i cant dash strike worth a damn with the bow or gatling gun

latent moon
#

i straight up did 1 run on controller (switch joycons) after like 400 hours of kbm and it was hella smooth and a lot better

latent moon
proud oasis
#

man i thought she was like wearing a pink lace or smthing i never plaid any attention

latent moon
#

the shot charges much faster

#

zag also holds the bow differently

oak lily
#

That and i think my buttons are getting stuck a bit on my controller

latent moon
#

ah

#

that's a bit rough

oak lily
#

I try not to mash on it but god i think my poor PS4 controllers are on the deathbed

proud oasis
#

rest in peices

latent moon
#

lmao unfortunate

rustic thicket
#

dodge is capped right??

latent moon
#

tbf at some point you're probably gonna have to buy a new one

latent moon
rustic thicket
#

as in u can't get 100% dodge chance

oak lily
#

Maybe its when i hold down the button in some games like Mega Man, where you have to hold it down for charge shots

latent moon
rustic thicket
#

I know numerically u can

latent moon
#

dodge is additive

#

but it won't be permanent

rustic thicket
#

yeah

#

cool

latent moon
#

you'd have to have like second wind and/or ruthless reflex

#

and high greater evasion rarity

oak lily
#

I'd play on my keyboard but i wonder how i have room for a mousepad on this desk

latent moon
#

play on the floor lmao

rustic thicket
#

i think bow might be my fav aspect

proud oasis
#

sometimes i turn the mouse sensitivity up and just put it on my thigh

oak lily
#

i can't play on the floor with a desktop

#

Not unless i wanna strap my monitor to the ceiling

rustic thicket
#

all of them except for zag's bow are super fun

#

i haven't maxed his out yet

proud oasis
#

chrions bow is silly when you get the uh the thing you know the one

latent moon
#

zag bow is a bit bland but it's somewhat strong

stone rune
#

zagbow is fun

#

chiron on the other hand

proud oasis
#

dadelus hammer +4 special shots

stone rune
#

true abomination

latent moon
#

that's not the good hammer lol

#

the good one is concentrated volley

oak lily
#

I'm not sure what aspect with the sword is good

latent moon
#

nemesis

stone rune
#

nemesis

proud oasis
#

i will die for arthur

stone rune
#

can’t stand arthur

latent moon
#

big crit chance is big

proud oasis
#

hgkladsalkd

stone rune
#

poor damage poor speed poor safety

proud oasis
#

w h a t

rustic thicket
#

chiron is lit

latent moon
#

jazz is a hardcore speed addict so she's a bit biased lmao

stone rune
#

locks you in place

#

takes ages

latent moon
#

my brother in christ

stone rune
#

doesn’t even deal good damage for it

proud oasis
#

you can dash

latent moon
#

dash between the strikes

oak lily
#

I like the Achilles aspect on the spear

proud oasis
#

also it does the big number

stone rune
#

i’m talking dash strikes

oak lily
#

Getting a insta dash is nice

proud oasis
#

i like the big number

stone rune
#

the dash strike is so long

latent moon
#

skill issue

proud oasis
#

you can dash inbetween the combo strikes

#

and it keeps the combo

stone rune
#

yea but the combo sucks

latent moon
#

jazz is a speed addict she doesn't use the combo

#

she only dash strikes with it because it's faster

oak lily
#

I like toying with the bosses a bit, only to hit triangle and instant transmission to another part of the arena

proud oasis
#

oh

stone rune
#

it’s literally rod carry aspect

proud oasis
#

what

#

rod of discord?

stone rune
#

lightning rod

proud oasis
#

i am terrariabrained

oak lily
#

Not sure what aspect i have unlocked on the gauntlets

#

I think just Demeter's

stone rune
#

demeter is best

#

others all kinda suck

#

talos and gilga both mega clunky

#

and zagfists boost pretty useless

proud oasis
#

zagreus beats the heck out of you asmr

stone rune
#

because each punch does nothing

proud oasis
#

honestly i like taking the zagreus spear and boosting the heck out of its special

stone rune
#

i had one funny run on zagspear

proud oasis
#

i had two

oak lily
#

i haven't touched this game in a month or 2

proud oasis
#

both had crit special, explosive special, and charged special

oak lily
#

I'm tempted to boot up a fresh file and see how far i get on my first run

stone rune
#

got the build and nothing else

#

and also calc risk

#

i’m not sure that even does anything

#

but see green take green

proud oasis
#

i belive it makes the enemies projectiles slower

#

like holy ground

#

but everywhere

#

and also no dr

#

also i think its worse

#

a lot worse

stone rune
#

so it’s like holy ground in not being very good residentzag

proud oasis
#

i will beat the milk out of a cow

#

with gloves on

stone rune
#

ok bubbo

proud oasis
#

ok dank zeus run is over

#

i died

#

due to uh

#

skill issue

stone rune
#

have u tried not getting hit

proud oasis
#

oh

#

oops

#

right

#

oh hey

#

i just got eternally friendzoned by dusa

#

at least i get 10 ambrosia now

proud oasis
#

no

#

that makes my health low

royal widget
#

L

proud oasis
meager shuttle
primal tree
#

not sure if this is the place to ask, is there a hades art book?

uneven cloak
#

I'd rather play GY than take Cursed Sword hammer

stone rune
primal tree
desert jewel
#

omg lol I got the last aspect of bow in first try

upper wolf
#

it's an awesome aspect

uneven cloak
#

Finally finished buying all the furnitures!

#

Time for interior decorating!

#

I'm gonna undo as much furniture as possible and do this slowly....the entire night.

stiff obsidian
#

are trials generally faster or slower than regular rooms

raw herald
#

slower

stiff obsidian
#

ok

uneven cloak
#

more dangerous as well because double god boons is just too good

#

My run almost ended during Aphrodite's rage

#

combined with FO perked Chariots

uneven cloak
#

Ok...

#

it seems that even I do not want to add EVERY furrniture and sculpture

#

2 fireplaces looks overkill

#

so are 2 fountains

#

and west hall is incredibly busy with Heracles/Fountain added

#

Damn, the columns are irreversible

#

since the Jeweled columns are basically a perma upgrade from the default

#

oh damn, I'm forced to keep the batcage because thats how you see the overall aerial view

formal citrus
uneven cloak
#

they're checkmarks

#

and the other choices are Olympian or the overdesigned Skeleton-embossed ones

#

so basically the jeweled ones are like perma upgrades to the default

#

i even looked at a picture to see what it prev looked like

#

and it's just jewelled shaped but everything's duller and 100% stone

#

another irreversibles are the expanded kitchen and the fireplace in the lounge

#

i get why the fireplace is permanent. Before it was a wall with Cerberus scratches. Removing the scratches still made it look like a placeholder

stiff obsidian
#

how much do you need to max resource director

mint coral
#

325k darkness iirc?

stiff obsidian
#

goddamn

mint coral
#

And like 10 at most of the other resources

stiff obsidian
#

im ggoing to pretend it doesnt exist

uneven cloak
#

I don't need to go far for those titles

#

but i will try to get all the clear screens

stiff obsidian
#

i need to catch some fish and eat some onions

uneven cloak
#

Final bedchamber layout

#

Opted out of 4 things.
Dio's poster didn't even fit the space. It was pasted to the 2 columns

#

The rug really felt off since you mostly pass through. Also it really clashed with the 2 matching carpets already present

#

It was either the Harp or the Board game. And lets just say the board game uses the space better while the harp is blocking the shelves.

#

And the weights looked like unnecessary mess.

#

Time for the actual halls now.

sharp stone
#

why do i have a sudden hankering for Hades-themed fruit gummies

sharp stone
#

it was either that or mountain dew

stiff obsidian
#

how early can u get 2nd hammer

upper wolf
#

elysium

#

it's pretty common to have it in the very first room of elysium

stone rune
stiff obsidian
#

alr

uneven cloak
#

Finally done with interior decorating.
Last ever decision I have to do is just clear screen theme choices.

mint coral
#

Get dyno'd

timid basalt
mint coral
#

Oh just noticed they got muted dusa

#

Dyno got them

uneven cloak
#

is the link working?

mint coral
#

Nope

uneven cloak
#

Me stupid haha. I merged 2 links in one go

#

Either way, that's my final House layout.

#

Time to sleep.

timid basalt
#

Thanks for sharing your final pic!

pliant crane
#

cluster rockets is so stupid

#

just killed hades in 20 secs LOL

stone rune
#

20_

#

that would be wr

pliant crane
#

probably took abt a minute or two

stone rune
#

o

#

30 is more reasonable

#

you can get a sub30 dad on eris but its rlly hard

pliant crane
#

dunno it was just super fast

stone rune
#

@whole comet can u do an ff clear on 10 frames per second

white path
#

I forgot that the card warps me out again :(

slim leaf
#

I just did the Epilogue 10 minutes ago, im so happy

rustic thicket
#

is cshot good with beowulf

#

??

stone rune
#

yes

#

best hammer

rustic thicket
#

👍

meager shuttle
#

Whaaaa
Just got Hermes legendary in Charons shop right before fighting the Furies!

stone rune
#

plume?

wide void
#

ive been trying to get the artemis keepsake (its the last god keepsake i dont have) but they havent shown up at all in the last like 20 runs what the hell

hardy spear
#

just unlucky i guess

#

unless youre using the "give up" after every run instead of dying

wide void
hardy spear
#

yeah thats just rng

stone rune
#

dont take every god you see

#

keep your pool unfilled

hardy spear
#

you can normally have a maximum of 4 gods in your "pool" apart from hermes and chaos (aside from some edge cases)

rustic thicket
#

how's pulvering blow with beowulf

stone rune
rustic thicket
#

XD

stone rune
#

your sources of damage are the cast and cshot

tropic agate
#

I'm getting better

royal widget
#

oh no

tropic agate
#

A sub13 today

#

That had potential for a sub12

stone rune
#

GG

final pond
#

WJY IS IT SO STRETCHED .

tropic agate
#

Only 19 seconds stopping it from sub 12

#

With the spear

#

Maybe it's the fact I started running it with heat to make fights faster

whole comet
#

does that mean super slow?

stone rune
#

no]

#

super laggy

whole comet
#

that's not exactly something i'm willing to do XD

#

i mean

stone rune
#

np

#

its like

whole comet
#

does the game even let u change frame rate to 10?

stone rune
#

you would have to do it on ur computer

#

people in speedcord were trying to

#

someone did 20 frames per second

whole comet
#

if it's an option in game, then i could try

#

but i dun see it

stone rune
#

would have to do by computer

whole comet
#

out of curiousity, why's the point of that?

stone rune
#

challenge

whole comet
stone rune
#

someone came in talking about refresh rate

#

and someone said "any refresh rate works"

#

and they were like "10 fps?"

whole comet
#

i'll stick with my current goal, clear hell mode with all weapons as fresh file as possible lol

stone rune
#

gg

whole comet
#

though i might have to retry poseidon boon only

#

the win i got with duo boon, start to nag me a bit

sudden patrol
#

holy crap lmao i just got low tolerance on the room just before the tartarus boss

#

and with aphro attack dio spec on chiron, no less

whole comet
#

588 hrs here

sudden patrol
#

after turning off 40% FO it feels like a weight off my shoulders lmao

#

what a feeling

latent moon
#

sometimes you just gotta do those cursed 32 heat pacts

uneven cloak
#

Because FO2 is the devil incarnate in the guise of Armored perked Chariots

#

Cant imagine how annoying Theseus EM3 is with it

twin thistle
#

more like asterius

#

hes the one that actually actively charges you

stone rune