With just rama special?
#h1-discussion
peak carbon
hardy spear
eh
hardy spear
really?
twin thistle
i mean
peak carbon
Yes :(
twin thistle
jolted goes hard
peak carbon
My highest cleared is 16 with nem
hardy spear
ive done 50 on hestia that was awful
hardy spear
zeus attack
aphro special
hardy spear
pressure points?
peak carbon
I love going doom on gauntlets
peak carbon
pressure points?
Crit%
latent moon
Then do merciful end
peak carbon
Then do merciful end
This is super hard
latent moon
Better for doom
hardy spear
do you have max mirror?
latent moon
Otherwise use Zeus
peak carbon
yeah i know what it is but why specifically that
For the 5 specials in a row
peak carbon
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1028112977100017666/1136428551629983754/i...
For demeter or just the whole game
hardy spear
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1028112977100017666/1136428551629983754/i...
seek help
twin thistle
pressure points is mostly a hunter mark enabler
hardy spear
what is that reddit pact
twin thistle
The crit marker thing?
yep
peak carbon
Eye sea
hardy spear
im not doing htis
do an actual 32 heat one
stone rune
no
stone rune
give me a sub satan seed and ill make it work
peak carbon
How do you even input seeds
stone rune
save file
pure karma
How are you posting screens?
hardy spear
as a link embed
pure karma
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1028112977100017666/1136428551629983754/i...
Doesnt look like a link?
hardy spear
embed
pure karma
so just copy the link?
pure karma
any uploading sites recs?
hardy spear
uh i just post it in a private server normally
hardy spear
next time could you send the full uncropped screenshot
it's nice to see the full build, heat and mirror etc
stone rune
Twin Shot
Shattered Shackle
Caustic Lunge
hardy spear
wat
stone rune
nice cp2
stone rune
nice acorn aspho
hardy spear
maybe athena for dash
pure karma
yeah didnt think about it
hardy spear
also cp2 is a deceptively difficult pact
pure karma
fast weapon though
hardy spear
often one of the very last to be taken in high heat
latent moon
fast weapon though
Not when it's special only
winged valve
with tight deadlines, time is running while you choose a boon right, but not when you pause to the menu?
latent moon
Time pasues during boon menus
hardy spear
it adds so much hp to bosses especially and slows you down tremendously, it's much better to have td3 instead
pure karma
Not when it's special only
You saying Rama attack is faster?
winged valve
oh really
I feel like I've seen people always put on the pause menu when boon selection comes up
latent moon
You saying Rama attack is faster?
Yes because that actually does more damage
And can clear rooms in a few shots
Rama has cleared like I think 60 heat lmao it wasn't special only
hardy spear
with tight deadlines, time is running while you choose a boon right, but not whe...
it does not run during the boon selection screen
winged valve
I should start using tight deadlines then, probably
latent moon
I feel like I've seen people always put on the pause menu when boon selection co...
They pause before making like door selections
Choices really
winged valve
yeah, I was looking at my past runs, unfortunately the game mostly seems to track best times
but probably TD1 is free even for me
I'm a pretty slow player
latent moon
In the records room that has run times
hardy spear
how long does it take you to beat the game rn
pure karma
I can;t go TD 3
winged valve
the records room just shows best though does it not?
pure karma
5 minutes is too low for me
winged valve
hmm I'll double check thanks
latent moon
There's 2 thingies
hardy spear
5 minutes is too low for me
because you have cp2 and dc2
latent moon
One is like uh
winged valve
how long does it take you to beat the game rn
my last runs have mostly been around 25 minutes I think
winged valve
i guess the only one I'd really be worried about is styx actually, if you get screwed and have to go down all 5 paths
mint coral
Yeah styx will always be an issue
winged valve
ah right the issue was I couldn't see the per biome times
mint coral
But idk just be lucky
winged valve
like, 9 minutes for styx, for me (being slow) would actually be really tight if I had to do 5 paths, I think
latent moon
Time carries over
winged valve
ohhhhhh
latent moon
So you'll probably have more than that
hardy spear
my last runs have mostly been around 25 minutes I think
you can definetly get that down to below 20 minutes by mostly not sitting around and letting the timer run probably
winged valve
you can definetly get that down to below 20 minutes by mostly not sitting around...
yeah for sure, I've just been chilling
mint coral
Learning that time carries over is huge
winged valve
yes, that was a big discovery
hardy spear
ah did the other run end
winged valve
it's funny when you're at low heat trying to decide which is the most free thing hah
pure karma
ah did the other run end
Funny story
hardy spear
it's funny when you're at low heat trying to decide which is the most free thing...
thats good practice
winged valve
I've been focused on EM because I actually want to learn the new boss fights
latent moon
omg daedalus I want special
I don't think rama can have any other special hammers lmao
It can only get relentless
Iirc
pure karma
I stood in the lava pool to acticate stubborn defiance
hardy spear
pure karma
see the previous screen and see the problem
mint coral
No sd?
hardy spear
oh ive done that in a 50 heat run before
winged valve
though honestly, on most weapons EM2 is free, but on fists I find it pretty annoying
ate so much lava damage
pure karma
I don't think rama can have any other special hammers lmao
IT can get the +4 special shots
latent moon
Yeah like I said just relentless
hardy spear
though honestly, on most weapons EM2 is free, but on fists I find it pretty anno...
what heat are you working at currently?
pure karma
forgot the name sorry
winged valve
what heat are you working at currently?
around 5 or so depending on weapon
probably like 4-7
hardy spear
right
pure karma
I have zues trinket... shold I atempt a normal rama run? I removed CP2 and DC completely
winged valve
I mean yeah, TD1 is definitely easier than EM2, it's just wanting to learn EM2 mostly
and get used to it
mint coral
https://tenor.com/view/haelian-mistake-hades-egg-gif-19288124
if I had a nickel for each time hades has a joke around egg I'd have 2 nickels
pure karma
perfect shot with rama attack is insane iirc
hardy spear
probably like 4-7
yeah just try avoid calisthenics programs, lasting consequences, routine inspection and approval process for now ( i might be missing some)
winged valve
I actually don't like perfect shot on rama
on rama for me at least I have to fire early so many times
often don't have time to charge up
hardy spear
yeah thats normal
winged valve
my last rama run I got double shot and point blank shot and just shot enemies up close
and it worked way better than when I tried to play it like other bows
pure karma
so point blank or perfect shot
winged valve
yeah just try avoid calisthenics programs, lasting consequences, routine inspect...
Oh really? I did lasting consequences 1 quite a lot
point blank because you're not going to have time to charge to perfect, very often
pure karma
isnt perfect shot the same damage?
winged valve
on e.g. Hera it's easy to fire perfect shots every time
stone rune
point blank
ocaml said perfect
hardy spear
really?
latent moon
I actually don't like perfect shot on rama
for less experienced players on rama, point blank is better since we still dont really know the right distance and whatnot for optimal spacing
for more experienced, perfect is better
raw herald
both good
stone rune
think so
winged valve
for less experienced players on rama, point blank is better since we still dont ...
yeah, I can believe that
latent moon
he's always gonna get the perfect shot off lmao
hardy spear
built different
winged valve
If you're really good and know how to position
raw herald
Amb likes point blank I think
winged valve
for me, my rama runs got way better as soon as I realized it's better to release early and dodge than keep goign for perfect
latent moon
yeah that's the idea
raw herald
Timothy lincecum likes chain?
stone rune
chain???
latent moon
but kinda based
hardy spear
any repulse enjoyers
stone rune
repulse best rama hammer
raw herald
Maybe that’s just for anyheat
pure karma
yeah no way, I suck at doing perfect shots, even with perfect shot lol
winged valve
hah
royal widget
conc volley best rama hammer
winged valve
what helps me on hera is just always doing the dash and getting into a rythm
latent moon
conc volley best rama hammer
that's unironically good tho
stone rune
conc volley best rama hammer
it's pretty good i heard
latent moon
iirc
winged valve
Otherwise you have to remember the differnt timing
latent moon
idk who has the clip but it's pretty insane
stone rune
it's like luci i assume
mint coral
beam bow best bow
royal widget
i can never remember the difference between +arrows and +damage
mint coral
conc is dmg, relentless is arrows
royal widget
now I cant play it
me with eris
winged valve
oh, random question about lucifer; does the beam damage keep ramping up if you don't let go of teh button, but switch targets, e.g. this often happens while dashing if you dont' release attack
latent moon
if you dont let go it keeps ramping up
pure karma
good idea
winged valve
nice
winged valve
probably need different keybinds for lucifer, currently it's really awkward holding fire and dashing
hardy spear
im gonna try rama arte special only 32 heat tomorrow i havent been feeling enough lately
stone rune
do 32 heat sub6
pure karma
oh
hardy spear
pure karma
I am gonna do that right now actually
royal widget
free
pure karma
never play arty rama special
hardy spear
32 heat is the highest heat ive done on every weapon other than gun
latent moon
oh that reminds me that i need to upload my 40 heat run so i can submit it lmao
pure karma
epic arty flourish LETS GO
royal widget
i have 40 beo
9 sword
32 else
pure karma
YES BEOWULF UNLOCKED
hardy spear
oh youre earlier on in the game than i thought
pure karma
yes this save is new
pure karma
previous one was not hell mode
hardy spear
i cba to play from the beginning again just to have pl
late gust
Hades 64 heat cleared I think it's time for Super giant to crank up the heat
winged valve
YES BEOWULF UNLOCKED
nice. It's honestly a super fun weapon and it doesn't need to be max level
mint coral
now that hades has been cleared surely we get hades 2 news
peak carbon
now that hades has been cleared surely we get hades 2 news
Sometime this year I hope
pure karma
I feel like Hades 2 early access will come at like 2025
peak carbon
The footage in the trailer looked amazing but also very clearly unfinished im9
mint coral
yeah I don't mind the lack of news, just joking
fading locust
same
mint coral
lernie tax moment
pure karma
Weird, you should be fine with lava
fading locust
my dash everywhere playstyle hates asphodel
mint coral
time to develop the "dash everywhere but lava" playstyle
fading locust
will try soon. no promises though
pure karma
Witches and EM2 Hydra are my worst nightmare
fading locust
witches.....
stone rune
jesus christ so many rats]
mint coral
witches on hell mode are fun
pure karma
witches on hell mode are fun
Maybe hell mode is the reason I can;t get past 32 heat
twin thistle
you can download a reg maxed save from the hades speedrun.com page
mint coral
Maybe hell mode is the reason I can;t get past 32 heat
use the cheat code called beo
pure karma
I just unlocked it, and it;s midnight here. Tomorrow will give it a shot
pure karma
you finished a whole run in 6 minutes?
mint coral
pretty sure she's speedrunning 32 heat
stone rune
yea
mint coral
stone rune
You finished a run in 6 minutes?
anybody can
pure karma
not me
twin thistle
just get the rooms and the boons
sudden patrol
what are some fun builds? they dont gotta be super strong, just enjoyable to play
royal widget
what are some fun builds? they dont gotta be super strong, just enjoyable to pla...
chiron
peak carbon
my dash everywhere playstyle hates asphodel
Me too
fading locust
chiron is very fun
stone rune
have u tried hera
peak carbon
what are some fun builds? they dont gotta be super strong, just enjoyable to pla...
Builds wise, lucifer w zeus atk ares special and triple bomb
formal citrus
QUINTISENTIAL FUN*
*in witches' circle and against EM thesius
peak carbon
why ares special
Doom fun!
I wasn't basing it off strength just fun
Oh, another fun build is achilles spear and artemis/ares duo boon :)
formal citrus
Achilles with the arti demeter duo is also fun
whole comet
Hades 64 heat cleared I think it's time for Super giant to crank up the heat
yeah, Heat 64 looks so easy. We look forward to see they raise the challenge to Heat 128 for Hades 2 
stone rune
i think someones done 128 heat
royal widget
Which pacts were buffed?
formal citrus
TD 6, you have -1 minute a zone
mint coral
Which pacts were buffed?
I'm guessing that was during EA pact of punishment
forget it, I think confused it with something else
stone rune
no it was a mod i think
that let u just put a lot of points in
like dc or something
mint coral
yeah I remember that but I don't know why I was thinking of EA pact
prob the giant numbers in the modifiers
lol, while searching for whatever I was thinking of
keen pike
does anyone know if for the harsh conditions prophecy you have to clear with that condition or just do a run with it applied
mint coral
does anyone know if for the harsh conditions prophecy you have to clear with tha...
clear with it
stone rune
keen pike
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/787779476888354816/1136470864775368824/im...
id cry
brisk trail
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/787779476888354816/1136470864775368824/im...
misery
latent moon
approval process is making me want to rage quit
Try a build that only needs like 2 boons lmao
royal widget
what boons buff "after-call" status
mint coral
Billowing strength and second wind are the only ones that activate after call
Unless you mean other thing
hasty owl
angel1c cleared 64 ubmodded unseeded
my mind is actually blown
the skill that must take goddamn
latent moon
she only needed 20 minutes for the right rng, i reckon you could do the same lmao
hasty owl
i absolutely could not
latent moon
i mean she's always been justified to do that lmao
mint coral
Now it hits different
orchid raft
Imagine getting hit by "skill issue" from someone who completed 64 heat
orchid raft
I mean we have the issue im just memeimg something i saw on a irrelivamt channel
The best i could do was 32 heat with Chiron Hangover special build but that was a long time ago
stone rune
if you can do 32 with chiron you can do 50 with a good aspect
signal aspen
orchid raft
if you can do 32 with chiron you can do 50 with a good aspect
Chiron IS a good aspect imo
stone rune
in the sense of being one of the top 23 aspects in the game, definitely
orchid raft
Actually its my favorite aspect maybe im just good at alternating dash attack dash special and free aiming
orchid raft
in the sense of being one of the top 23 aspects in the game, definitely
Does Guan Yu don't count?
mint coral
Jazz do you remember how many runs are needed for the loading times to increase
orchid raft
Then that is the 24th aspect that is seeming so bad its not counted?
stone rune
gilgamesh
stone rune
Jazz do you remember how many runs are needed for the loading times to increase
i think it's like really noticeable in the thousands
but i believe it might still affect your rta in the hundreds
for better effect ask in speedcord
mint coral
At some point it also can eat your inputs at doors or I just gaslighted myself into thinking that
stone rune
i just reset my file before every session
orchid raft
I have like maybe 143 runs on one file I don't have amy other files its been awhile
stone rune
but yeah chiron is the 2nd worst aspect in the game
tropic agate
What's the worst aspect?
stone rune
gilgamesh
orchid raft
I don't see how when i just hit my boy Dionysus up and he gives a special boon just like that
tropic agate
I may be an unconventional player because I like gilgamesh
young moth
I think hades spear is worse than gilg
mint coral
Liking gilga is fine
signal aspen
hades doesnt make you take more damage
orchid raft
Y'all make me want to play more Hades
mint coral
But it really is a 
aspect
young moth
hades doesnt make you take more damage
Yeah but it makes you play spear🤢🤮
signal aspen
gilgamesh makes you play fists which is worse
twin thistle
hades is fine just get the hammers frfr
orchid raft
gilgamesh makes you play fists which is worse
Slow* fists
stone rune
I don't see how when i just hit my boy Dionysus up and he gives a special boon j...
well the issue is that you have to actually kill the enemies
which is the major part where chiron has issues
is the part where it has to actually deal the damage to the enemy
young moth
gilgamesh makes you play fists which is worse
Tbf I like fists because they’re fast, and gilg is the opposite
twin thistle
id still rather do chiron 50 than sword 
signal aspen
Slow* fists
no just fists in general
tropic agate
What is the best aspect?
orchid raft
no just fists in general
I mean suee they have no range
stone rune
What is the best aspect?
beo
tropic agate
Hmm see I dislike the shield entirely
signal aspen
well the issue is that you have to actually kill the enemies
chiron styx without poseidon
young moth
Hmm see I dislike the shield entirely
Really? It’s my favorite
orchid raft
Hmm see I dislike the shield entirely
I feel this, shield and gun is just not my palet
stone rune
Hmm see I dislike the shield entirely
ok
it has the best damage output in the game tho
young moth
Yeah Fr beo mirage shot is ridiculous
twin thistle
beo is the delete everything on screen button
tropic agate
Yeah fists, sword and bow are my cup of tea
twin thistle
until youre forced to pick ri
orchid raft
beo is the delete everything on screen button
I see
tropic agate
I need to try beo with mirage shot
orchid raft
I need to try any aspect besides Chiron
stone rune
yeah you'd have a better experience
twin thistle
beo is also the most literally broken aspect because its bugged in like 20 different ways
tropic agate
Well with this information in my mind I will say good night
orchid raft
yeah you'd have a better experience
I mean Low Tol Heart Rend and Art Dio duo boon with just makes life sooo much easier with Chiron
You proc it once on an enemy and watch them die
stone rune
well that's 3 duo boons to have below average dps
meanwhile you have beo with 1 or eris, hestia, hera with 0
signal aspen
tbh arti special with concentrated volley and some special damage is better
stone rune
also stubborn roots
it was my fault yea
i ate like 4 hits in p1p1 to anyheat brain lol
latent moon
I mean Low Tol Heart Rend and Art Dio duo boon with just makes life sooo much ea...
Just get 3 duos and the aspect is good lmao
orchid raft
I mean i see boss health go down like 30% in 1 tic with the 3 duo boons i mentioned
latent moon
I'd argue curse of nausea is more useful than splitting headache tho
signal aspen
I mean i see boss health go down like 30% in 1 tic with the 3 duo boons i mentio...
it does not do that lmao
orchid raft
Just get 3 duos and the aspect is good lmao
Idk maybe i just had god tier luck at the time
stone rune
ive seen boss health go down 50% in one volley
latent moon
The issue is getting 3 duo boons consistently lmao
Also Chiron doesn't have the dps for that lol
stone rune
yea
mint coral
There is also the issue of your dmg before you get all those duos
And that you don't have AoE
latent moon
It's pretty difficult for a standard speedrunning Beowulf build to instaphase phase 2 hades
Well not difficult I guess but like
orchid raft
Sooo what you are saying is im playing the game wrong but im still wining
latent moon
Doesn't happen that often
I mean it's not wrong
It's just that it could be better lol
orchid raft
Ah
latent moon
There's not really a wrong way to play the game unless you like take bad pacts/mirrors and then complain about why it doesn't work
mint coral
Big "td is so hard" into having js/cp/dc energy
orchid raft
I picked up Hades once and felt myself getting much better only took 17 tries for the 1st clear but im by no means the best i just think im better than average, the shop keeper told me it too 35 tries to beat it once
latent moon
Shop keeper?
orchid raft
Gamestop employee
latent moon
Oh lmao
orchid raft
Must be ill informed if im not actually that good
latent moon
Tbf first clear generally isn't a good benchmark for skill in the game lol
young moth
I picked up Hades once and felt myself getting much better only took 17 tries fo...
It took me like 60
signal aspen
bro calling the 17 yo at the gamestop a shopkeeper
orchid raft
They were not 17 yo
signal aspen
oh really
orchid raft
Yes really
signal aspen
😱
latent moon
Must be ill informed if im not actually that good
"better than average" would be like sub10 and 32+ heat clear or something lmao
because most players just don't go for those goals
Good chunk do but most don't
orchid raft
"better than average" would be like sub10 and 32+ heat clear or something lmao
Im not a speed runner buuut... I might be able to do higher heat if i was motivated to do so somehow
stone rune
dont need to be a speedrunner for sub10
mint coral
Heat fun (don't look past 45 heat)
orchid raft
For all i know i am capable of doing so but im not doing so since im too preoccupied with other games
signal aspen
dont need to be a speedrunner for sub10
yeah i wasnt even trying to speedrun but i got a sub 4
stone rune
i was playing blindfolded once and i got a 2:47
orchid raft
Heat fun (don't look past 45 heat)
I did think about doing a Heat 40 once
stone rune
unmodded but 5 sack
latent moon
Im not a speed runner buuut... I might be able to do higher heat if i was motiva...
Fair lmao
32+ heat clear is still above average
latent moon
It'd make you a good speedrunner if you clear it tho tbh lmao
latent moon
theres some point between 40 and 50 where it goes from easy to hard
Like 45 prob since that's when you're like "wtf do I take all the easy stuff is gone"
orchid raft
Maybe if i did 32 heat with all aspects than id be more confident in my abilities
Or at least all weapon types
That's gotta be a story for sometime in the future
Actually no F that im going back to grind Hades later when i wake up
Ive been playing all these casual games for fun and not challenging myself to a real game my senses must be dulled by now
That's all the reason to go back to Hades lets go 
formal citrus
Sea storm on beo special is very satisfying to use
void vigil
yeah I remember that but I don't know why I was thinking of EA pact
https://youtu.be/Piau7vj0o3I
The most “popular” number to run before the pact rework was 120, I think that was a skelly statue, but the max was 200
I can’t find if 200 heat has been cleared, at least not recorded
stone rune
https://youtu.be/Piau7vj0o3I
The most “popular” number to run before the pact re...
food reward out of erebus??
barbs of the master huntress is golden
void vigil
I think food reward might still be possible? Someone explained it once but I don’t remember
https://youtu.be/YNu4FLtYelo ok I think this is the highest that has been cleared
I couldn’t find 200
latent moon
I think food reward might still be possible? Someone explained it once but I don...
it's like at the start of a save in a 3 door exit in aspho or something
you haven't been introduced to nectar yet so the rewards are like darkness, gems, or food
or something like that i think
stone rune
I think food reward might still be possible? Someone explained it once but I don...
it is but it’s really hard to get
you need blue laurel 3exit in aspho on ff i beliebe
royal widget
https://youtu.be/YNu4FLtYelo ok I think this is the highest that has been cleare...
that's a shock
the weird dashes and skelly
also what's going on with dc2
void vigil
still python
wait guys did 64 heat unmodded just get beaten
stone rune
Nyaanyaa's Guan Yu Guide
Generally on Guan Yu, the hammers you want are Charged Skewer > Quick Spin > Massive Spin > Serrated Point. Breaching Skewer and Serpent Wing also alright. And Breaching Skewer becomes top priority for the second hammer if you have Charged Skewer already.
Charged Skewer shortens the startup of Guan Yu's Special a whole lot and lets you hold your Special for up to triple base damage.
You'll want Heartbreak Flourish or Deadly Flourish ideally, anyway, for the high % damage. Guan Yu's Special has 45 base damage, piercing, and wide AOE. Anything with % damage is good on Attack except Tempest Strike is unorthodox and requires fully leaning into Poseidon to make it work (though it can be effective and fun).
For optimal DPS, you're either doing Special > Dash-Strike x2 or Cast > Dash-Strike x2 with Guan Yu. Cast for single-target, Special when you can hit multiple enemies with it (or if you have Charged Skewer). And just your Special and reposition if it's enough to one-shot things (which it often is if you have Charged Skewer).
There are two ways to charge the spin: from a normal Attack and from a Dash-Attack. 99% of the time you want to charge from a Dash-Attack. And there are three ways to release a spin: let go of Attack, Dash, and Dash-Attack. Letting go of Attack is the safest method and how you want to release it most of the time. It's also usually the best method for keeping the spin on your enemy. Releasing with a dash gives you i-frames and a lot more range for the spin, but it travels faster. You mainly use that to quickly escape a situation or to throw your spin at very far-away enemies. And releasing with a Dash-Attack gives you the extra range that a Dash gives but without any of the i-frames, but the benefit is that you can immediately charge a new spin. This method is the most aggressive and best for DPS, and it can keep you within the Deflect spin if you happen to use Divine Strike.
obsidian linden
ok
already have Epic Heartbreak Flourish lv.2
...
I died...
of joycon drift casualty
in a cleared room...
first time getting that
chilly jasper
silliest weapon?
gray apex
wait guys did 64 heat unmodded just get beaten
Yea
stone rune
silliest weapon?
beo
stone rune
it’s literally so silly?
- cshot base damage reverts on flare replace and crop
- tinyflare
- mirage bug
- iframe flare pop bug
empirical silliness
grand osprey
i died to hades on 32 heat....
i swear the extra attack speed is a bigger boost for him that EM4
that super fast sweep is so hard to dodge
i mean i did screw up the build by forgetting that Ddash can't give you ME but still
twin thistle
melee is generally a lot tougher
cyan jolt
royal widget
with the 30% buff it sure is
versed zinc
sand summit
mint coral
*she
but yeah Angel is awesome
agile basin
THE goddess of Hades 
royal warren
**Nyaanyaa's Guan Yu Guide**
Generally on Guan Yu, the hammers you want are Char...
Source link maybe?
formal citrus
Do mini boss rooms increase the odds of duos and legendaries?
How do mini boss and expensive styx boon increase rarity compared to keepsakes/chaos/yarn/nectar
agile basin
I think they do
because mini boss rooms have "big rewards"
formal citrus
I know the last two don't stack with each other, but that's it.
Are they also a 20% chanxe to be rare or better?
latent moon
Do mini boss rooms increase the odds of duos and legendaries?
They actually decrease lmao
12% to 10%
They increase epic and rare chances tho
formal citrus
They actually decrease lmao
Those numbers are both without legacy?
Other than that and mirror are there any other rarity increases th at don't duo and leg odds?
gray apex
Yea those are base odds
formal citrus
My instinct was always to reroll mini bosses for those. Slight mistake it seems
latent moon
It's pretty marginal difference tbf
But also at least it'll give you something to blame lmao
willow mural
eyyyy someone finally beat Hades
hexed smelt
Guys look at this
latent moon
A ton of articles have been written about this lmao
raw herald
IGN article damn
thorny shoal
If I had a nickel for everytime a community I was a part of had an ign article, I'd have two nickels
upbeat walrus
It gets "solved" coincide? I think not!
I can’t believe you didn’t get credited in the completion video. it’s outrageous
chrome heath
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1028112977100017666/1136584843975733248...
KARL JOBST????
Ok we big
opaque parrot
Has anyone seen Angels new run of 64 heat unseeded unmodded?
chrome heath
I was about to
formal citrus
Has anyone seen Angels new run of 64 heat unseeded unmodded?
It's been about 50% of the convo here since it happened lol
opaque parrot
I can imagine, it’s absolutely wild!
Also, just 7 days after Harlian posted his video stating that it could probably never be done. The amount of dedication is inspiring.
mint coral
I love Haelian's reaction when Angel appeared in his chat with the news lol
latent moon
Is there a clip of that lmao
mint coral
Is there a clip of that lmao
#523766637757726722 message
Chat had swears so not posting here
dusky narwhal
now hades 2 needs 128 heat atleast
opaque parrot
Oh god no
winged valve
How is Delta chamber on eris
raw herald
It’s very comfy to use
winged valve
Interesting
My alternatives are cluster and hazard
Neither of which I like on eris
mint coral
Is this first or 2nd hammer
mint coral
Might as well go for clockets
winged valve
Clockets?
mint coral
Cluster + rocket
winged valve
That's a pretty long shot though isn't it
mint coral
Yeah but is the best hammer combo you can get
winged valve
I mean it'll be like 1/4 or something like that
mint coral
400 base dmg at point blank
mint coral
If anything is way easier to keep eris buff up
formal citrus
I guess the targetting is "be on top of them and fire" which isn't the most comfortable
but yeah, can use it from far away to hit them and also have a safe space to keep the buff up, esp if your damage is mostly coming from elsewhere which it likely can be
obsidian linden
Finaly
Finally made Beowulf broken
Epic Flood Flare lv. 3
Mirage Shot
- 64 damage cast from Chaos
- 2 Cast from Chaos
Epic Rush Delivery from Hyper Sprint
mint coral
Lmao gg
obsidian linden
First time using Mirage Shot
First time using Epic Rush Delivery
Insane power but will never beat the charged special of the bow with Heartbreak Flourish
Never felt so sorry for Hades
mint coral
Sure
obsidian linden
Seriously, that was easy mode
First time I was sure I would have beat EM4
Now, new day, new questions
Everyone have tell me that Arthur suck
And that other aspect are ok but only with DEdge
mint coral
Arthur is fine assuming you aren't going for speedruns/high heat past like 40
obsidian linden
DEdge is hard to use and Arthur is still great when you're not speedruning
obsidian linden
Arthur is fine assuming you aren't going for speedruns/high heat past like 40
Thanks
So, how to use the sword
obsidian linden
I've come to realise that I have all my weapon at 9 to 11 except sword
mint coral
If you want sword wins but don't wanna actually play sword use poseidon sword
obsidian linden
Sword have only 2 escape on my save
obsidian linden
Practice dash strikes
So it's really get gud...
winged valve
if you want to get your sword to higher heat, poseidon is also, IMHO, a very easy option
it's very safe
obsidian linden
No, I want to play sword like a sword
winged valve
yeah, poseidon is not that
obsidian linden
(but poseidon was my last escape lmao)
winged valve
one of the main tricks with arthur which I'm still getting used to is that you can dash in between strikes and it continues the combo
you really want to do that a lot, and mostly avoid dash striking except against very weak enemies, because you really want to get those 2nd/3rd combo hits out
obsidian linden
Sword look mid everywhere if not for dedge and Arthur
obsidian linden
one of the main tricks with arthur which I'm still getting used to is that you c...
I already do that
winged valve
nemesis is supposed to be the best sword, I guess in highly skilled hands, for me I just haven't done well with it
latent moon
Crits kinda strong
obsidian linden
you really want to do that a lot, and mostly avoid dash striking except against ...
Or spaw kill with the 3rd hit
obsidian linden
nemesis is supposed to be the best sword, I guess in highly skilled hands, for m...
I want to use that with Artemis
latent moon
If you do optimal sword damage rotation then nemesis (and swords in general) feel a lot better/stronger
winged valve
Yeah but is the best hammer combo you can get
btw thanks for the suggestion. I actually did end up getting this combo, and it's just disgusting
mint coral
Dash strikes are good with arthur for what is worth
obsidian linden
Having crit a lot of time must be fun
latent moon
Dash strikes are good with arthur for what is worth
Arthur speed is only dash strikes lmao
mint coral
Dash strikes are good with arthur for what is worth
And surprise surprise this is even more true with dedge
mint coral
btw thanks for the suggestion. I actually *did* end up getting this combo, and i...
Nice
winged valve
it's like a mini beowulf blast
I had artemis on special too which actually worked out pretty well
obsidian linden
So let's try
Easy setup/starting for blade please
(not poseidon)
Which blade, which keepsake
(don't ask compagnon, I don't have any)
All the blade, except Arthur, are max blood
And first Boon of the seed is Demeter with Epic Attack and an Erebus Gates
upbeat walrus
do you guys think you could escape Tartarus on 64 Heat?
tropic agate
No
hollow granite
cool cool
latent moon
A bunch of articles got written about it
hollow granite
lmao what
latent moon
Ign tweet and insta post
Kinda perfect timing because it was a week after haelian did a video about the odds of it ever happening
hollow granite
devs pls make 64 heat in hades II actually hard 🥱
hollow granite
Kinda perfect timing because it was a week after haelian did a video about the o...
I SAW IT
winged valve
So just so I understand angel beat the game modded but unseeded?
latent moon
Lmfao yeah this was too easy it only took 3 years
gray apex
unmodded
latent moon
She beat it unmodded
hollow granite
ayy
latent moon
She did both lmao
winged valve
Just plain vanilla?
gray apex
yes
winged valve
That's crazy
winged valve
So she doesn't know what boons she'll get and so on even for the first couple rooms etc
Damn
Insane
latent moon
She had to reset for only 20 minutes to get a run going lmao
winged valve
That's still probably way less time than I would have guessed
latent moon
Oh yeah def
hollow granite
dream luck
latent moon
Statistically speaking it's supposed to take like 85 hours or something?
To even get a run started iirc
hollow granite
idr
latent moon
But yaknow
winged valve
Well modding gives you some nice stuff right but still if she did it twice in a short period, unseeded it shows that you don't need that much luck
latent moon
Just get the boons™️
hollow granite
anyway congrats to that person
latent moon
Well modding gives you some nice stuff right but still if she did it twice in a ...
Well you're ignoring thousands of hours lmao
She was 1 sec away from clearing modded 64 like last year or something
latent moon
The two runs were days apart weren't they
11 days
winged valve
Okay. My point is if it's 11 days apart, then statistically that means the estimate on how lucky the runs were is less
latent moon
Yeah it's not like "this has to be true"
winged valve
Sure, I'm not saying they're not correct
raw herald
You’ll get a proper attempt every 85 hours on average
latent moon
Sometimes it takes 20 minutes lmao
winged valve
Yes, thank you, I know how probability works
latent moon
If she tried to do it again it'd prob take that 85 hours lmao
winged valve
Depending how much she played in that time period it might not even be that far off
The crazy thing is to be so good that your chance of converting that once-in-85-hours run is very high
latent moon
Yeah lmao
formal citrus
The sad pause for the dio call sell in there lol
latent moon
"maen"
autumn rose
Can quick reload drop when u have slicing shot
And can flurry cast drop when u have hera
mint coral
Can quick reload drop when u have slicing shot
No and no
autumn rose
I hate this game
mint coral
I almost say yes to the first but realized is not flurry lol
autumn rose
Im jus tryna get greater recall out here :(
formal citrus
nvm silly questiom
autumn rose
Yeah but
formal citrus
or beams
mint coral
I mean if you want the legendary just for the prophecy plume is actually gaming lol
autumn rose
Nah I have the prophecy
crystal star
Ill be dead before I get them
Longggg dead
??
Helloooo
Where did everyone go
The moment I said something
Damn
autumn rose
I'm tryna make a blade rift build with at least:
mirage shot, hunting blades, vicous cycle, fully loaded, greater recall, engulfing vortex, a cast damage increase from charon and chaos and an extra cast from charon and chaos for hades boss
mint coral
Might as well get their entire kit
mint coral
Helloooo
The real answer is that idk
The trigger is supposed to be getting all work orders
But I don't remember everything
crystal star
WHAT
autumn rose
two vortex boons you're not getting
ive got 3 every attempt lol
autumn rose
that's not the problem
autumn rose
hermes..
mint coral
3 gods builds my beloved
autumn rose
i had a build with 5 duos today
winged valve
that's a lot of boons
my last hunting blades build, I got the duo, and the ares legendary, not sure what else I got. Not too much else.
Didn't need it regardless
gray apex
64 heat got beaten today??
It's almost a day ago but yea
whole comet
Wouldn’t get pass that the guy decides to tackle heat 64 unseeded/unmod because of Haelian video
stiff obsidian
i didnt know turning off attack at cursor gives you full autoaim
main talon
whole comet
Or, Haelian wanna provoke the community to beat it lol
coral viper
formal citrus
Wouldn’t get pass that the guy decides to tackle heat 64 unseeded/unmod because ...
The video was because she beat modded unseeded 11 days before beating unmodded unseeded
gritty hemlock
Wouldn't cursed slash or draining cutter be viable for 64 heat because then you have a way to heal?
stone rune
no
because they both suck
cursed slash doesnt apply to dash strikes
so it's basically useless
gritty hemlock
I guess you would be pretty vulnerble with cursed slash
stone rune
and draining cutter is laborious and takes time
twin thistle
also youd just get oneshot
stone rune
yea
twin thistle
sword also relies heavily on dedge for dps
gritty hemlock
Yeah makes sense
What about aspect of Arthur? The projectile slowdown and damage resist seems good for no-hit. Maybe it's too slow tho?
twin thistle
arthur is way too slow
stone rune
yeah it just has no dps
twin thistle
the best next bet to zeus is cshot zag shield
gritty hemlock
Hmm ok
I think dps feels fine with Arthur, since I'm doing almost 1k per hit sometimes, but I guess it would be bad with blue hearts
stone rune
if arthur was viable hestia would be significantly better
gritty hemlock
What makes them comparable?
stone rune
both have slowish hits with high base damage
hestia just does it way better
has more rangew
twin thistle
arthur swings really slow and isnt anywhere near aspects like beo or eris in terms of dps
twin thistle
hestia doesnt need to be up in enemies faces
gritty hemlock
Yeah I guess that's fair
stone rune
but anyways arthur doesnt have the damage or the safety
the DR aura and extra health might let you take like 1 extra hit or something
gritty hemlock
What about something like aspect of poseidon with crush shot? Doesn't that have pretty good damage?
stone rune
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1028112977100017666/1136742240232951899/image.png we were this close to greatness
twin thistle
lol no
stone rune
What about something like aspect of poseidon with crush shot? Doesn't that have ...
no
thats pretty awful damage and is also super close range
latent moon
Cast weapons die on routine inspection 3
stone rune
also that
gritty hemlock
Cast weapons die on routine inspection 3
Ohh yeah forgot about that xD
latent moon
Also Arthur dies because of damage control
twin thistle
and everything but a shield dies there unless funny greatest reflex resets
latent moon
The only other viable aspects that theoretically can do it are rama and zag shield
gray apex
rama gud
winged valve
Hestia doesn't have the safety of aura tho
Hestia also does 150 from the first hit
winged valve
With Arthur you get the big damage only on the second and third hits of a combo
latent moon
Hestia also does 150 from the first hit
Also dies to damage control
A lot of the good aspects die because of the pact lmao
Beowulf and hestia mainly
winged valve
Yeah I was just comparing Arthur and hestia generally rather than 64 heat wise
stone rune
winged valve
Yeah all cast weapons
twin thistle
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/771815559410876446/1016875658296688680/...
nice zag rail
latent moon
Whatever the 62 (60?) run had lmao
winged valve
So is eris the most likely weapon after zag shield to get a 64
gritty hemlock
Beowulf and hestia mainly
I'm guessing beowulf is mainly because of routine inspection?
winged valve
Cluster rockets isn't even that rare, right off the bat
winged valve
I'm guessing beowulf is mainly because of routine inspection?
Well, you lose your mirror on high heat so you lose casts
You'll only start with 1 cast
gritty hemlock
Yeah then you need to get extra
winged valve
That's pretty devastating for Beowulf and even worse for hera
stone rune
can 2nd hermes actually appear in aspho endshop
winged valve
Yeah you could get extra but it's just a huge weakening
winged valve
You'll just always be way weaker than you would have been otherwise
latent moon
You'd only realistically only get 1 extra from chaos
twin thistle
beo is also hurt too much by lack of poms, all the bugs, and dc
latent moon
And yeah
winged valve
If you have one cast eris looks way better than beo
gritty hemlock
beo is also hurt too much by lack of poms, all the bugs, and dc
Which bugs?
Haven't used beowult that much
twin thistle
you have no dash i frames while casts are going off
gritty hemlock
Oh lol
twin thistle
also funny stuff can screw up flare size and block is consistent™
twin thistle
though its mostly the iframe one
stone rune
just had sub1 aspho off 154 tart
formal citrus
Demeter and chaos start? Y'all know what that memes
old plover
I was in the wrong chat earlier, someone has beaten 64 heat, unseeded, unmodded
so cool
I hope the devs check it out, so dank.
old plover
also dawg did it with m&k which is nuts to me.
stone rune
it was litearlly perfectly fine till unarmored sword 34
nevermind not doable
i actually hate ely
201
worst biome ever invented
crystal star
also dawg did it with m&k which is nuts to me.
What is m and k
old plover
@crystal star Mouse and Keyboard
stone rune
most heat players are on kbm
old plover
I can't do it
I'm still practicing 32 heat runs, haven't gotten there yet but this is legendary
I'm so happy for this guy
I guess there is still a chance that it is fake but I think people are looking into it.
young moth
i actually hate ely
Common Elysium L, I hate that place
old plover
@crystal star good to know, legend either way
formal citrus
Demeter and chaos start? Y'all know what that memes
Why have more than one cast when you can just make it last twice as long. Also, I accidentally opened up cold embrace too, whoops
pure karma
I picked kinetic launcher with dem fists... did I just ruin the aspect?
mint coral
Kinetic dem is based
stone rune
it's good
royal warren
Speaking of which... looking for advice on canceling Dash-Attack into Special on Twin Fists. A guide says you can do it by pressing all those buttons quickly. I can sometimes do it with Kinetic Launcher, and very rarely without. How to do it consistently?
vague nexus
Who is the hottest character on Hades in your opinion guys?
pure karma
Hydra. Literally lives in lava
stone rune
Speaking of which... looking for advice on canceling Dash-Attack into Special on...
it's just dash attack and then release attack quickly tehn special
ill make a vid
royal warren
Release after dash huh? Lemme try...
Ideally I'd like to keep that button clamped down with some scotch tape...
formal citrus
I think I basically roll dash-attack-special
vague nexus
Hydra. Literally lives in lava
extremely based, agree
royal warren
Hmm... I was pressing Special a lot sooner, hoping for an actual cancel into a near-simultaneous activation, and I also thought it works sometimes
winged valve
Speaking of which... looking for advice on canceling Dash-Attack into Special on...
fwiw I just literally hit dash and attack at the same time. I don't even try to hit dash then attack.
If I try to dash then attack, I get a dash attack but I never get the special
This is a nice move once you've charged giga cutter. Giga cutter actually does more damage on dash special than special
royal warren
Anyway thanks for the demo, now I understand the timing, need to practice more
If only this was possible without releasing attack
stone rune
it only rlly has one application though
formal citrus
it only rlly has one application though
That sounds like playing without DC talk
latent moon
Hmm... I was pressing Special a _lot_ sooner, hoping for an actual cancel into a...
yeah it's like timed mashing lmao
still fast but not as fast as you think
formal solstice
should i take positive outlook over dio aid?
im at styx and dont have a call yet
but aid is only common
and positive outlook is epic
stone rune
no
dio call is really good
if you can buy a styx pom and pom it do it
it's one of the two best dps calls in the game
don't wait for full greater call
just use it whenever you get one bar
grizzled current
Escaped for the third time finally
First two were with Adamant Rail, Hazard bomb both times made it easy.
Third time was with the shield. Got Poseidon boon that knocked enemies back when I attacked, rupture boon and bonus wall slam damage.
formal citrus
Aight. So crystal clarity blocked by cold embrace count: 1
5 chaos screens without cast
winged valve
yeah...
stygian not for the faint of heart
also: dio call + smoldering air is just about 100% uptime
crystal star
won't work with low tol sadly
Why?
mint coral
minor call is 5 stacks, doesn't last enough to get to 8 stacks
crystal star
Oh
Oh shoot
I was thinking of different boon
Whats the one that makes you do more damage when you have 3 ppl effected by hangover
winged valve
what's not fun with smair tbh
I saw that poseidon's call has a boon that extends duration
mint coral
Artemis call
winged valve
I wonder how close you can get to invulnerability
crystal star
I saw that poseidon's call has a boon that extends duration
?
mint coral
Whats the one that makes you do more damage when you have 3 ppl effected by hang...
Bad influence I think?
mint coral
I saw that poseidon's call has a boon that extends duration
Rip current my beloved
crystal star
Heah
winged valve
can rip current be pommed
crystal star
Yeha
winged valve
I'm guessing no
crystal star
Hehahahrhsbfnaks
winged valve
hmm
crystal star
My eyes
winged valve
ah damn but the amount per pom is tiny
crystal star
Its like discord light mode
winged valve
2.6 + 1.2, and that's with epic and 11 poms (!)
3.8 seconds
granted, with smair, that's nearly 80% invulnerability still
mint coral
No, 2.6 is with poms
winged valve
and in practical terms basically invulnerable
crystal star
That’s crazy
mint coral
Base rip current is like 1.4