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#h1-discussion
stone rune
upbeat walrus
oh awesome
upbeat walrus
So like
What are some good cast builds
usually people use cast aspects
but if not
you can try hunting blades
or a crystal beam run
Demeter cast + Demeter Artemis duo
grand osprey
Yeah you kinda need the Artemis duo boon for crystal beam to work
Otherwise it's too slow
Tried it once, didn't get the duo
What are cast aspects that aren't locked
I have bad memory
stone rune
So like
What are some good cast builds
hera
crush shot
that’s it
just pom it
achilles hunting blades
upbeat walrus
what’s interactive chaos do?
grand osprey
Yeah crush shot is like the one cast I use pretty regularly
Might try that
stone rune
only really good on hera
upbeat walrus
actually there’s a lot of stuff I don’t know here so I’ll just look it up
stone rune
crush shot just doesn’t have the range
it can be ok on achilles with blown kiss
but hera gives it range
upbeat walrus
is vorime’d the all 4 boons thing?
stone rune
yea
grand osprey
Yeah I just like crush shot for the extra debuff
And weak is pretty good
upbeat walrus
and if I rename the mods folder that’s here to something else it will run vanilla?
stone rune
name comes from a gdq where vorime rolled twice and didn’t get the right core
stone rune
and if I rename the mods folder that’s here to something else it will run vanill...
and run modimporter
upbeat walrus
so I don’t gotta do anything but click?
stone rune
yeah it goes 5-25 in hell
upbeat walrus
double click
after I double click how long do I wait?
stone rune
should just run a command thing
grand osprey
How many escape attempts did it take you to beat dad?
stone rune
23
grand osprey
Damn I was fast then
13
grand osprey
I beat dad on my first time getting to him
Somehow managed to shield block enough of his attacks to stay alive
stone rune
yea shield is shield
grand osprey
I wonder what build I had that made it better than the next 7 runs
I gotta check tomorrow
upbeat walrus
the former wr holder took 50
I took 70 
tho tbf I killed myself a decent amount of times to advance story :p
grand osprey
I only killed myself once
Now zag says something negative about that run whenever I pass it in the logs
All the characters having new dialogue for dying super early was really funny
Hey so like are Erebus gates worth it
Last run I the rewards I got from then basically saved the run but idk if they're worth it in general
stone rune
Hey so like are Erebus gates worth it
Last run I the rewards I got from then bas...
sometimes
high heat double hearts are good
if they're a god you desperately need sure
double coin sucks
grand osprey
Yeah that double heart carried the run
I got double coin early which was meh
But the double pom in aspho made my damage output not-terrible and probably saved the run
Somehow I didn't mess up even when the flame wheels showed up
modern yarrow
I’m going for a Demeter and Artemis cast build, what should my other 2 gods be?
stone rune
ares for hunting blades
modern yarrow
Poseidon for mirage shot, Zeus is good in general
Thx
modern yarrow
ares for hunting blades<:dusa:522248771409543188>
Oops…
stone rune
if you're doing crystal clarity probably arty atk dem cast tdash zeus call
assuming achilles
modern yarrow
Yep
raw herald
Yeah that’s what I’d do
sharp stone
So the Chthonic Companions are sentient to some degree, but how sentient??
Are they living beings or are they just magical beanie babies created by Nyx??
agile basin
So the Chthonic Companions are sentient to some degree, but how sentient??
wait, what
when is that implied?
sharp stone
wait, what
when is that implied?
In the codex entries
With ||Battie flying or Mort lording over small creatures||
agile basin
oooh right!
first time I read that I understand as kind of "tales" created for their owners
but they could just be sentient, a lil more than the weapons that zag uses
sharp stone
first time I read that I understand as kind of "tales" created for their owners
Like tags on beanie babies!!!
agile basin
Like tags on beanie babies!!!
I dont know what that means 
sharp stone
You're not familiar with beanie babies or the tags that come with their backstories
agile basin
I looked up on google images and I think I get it
I was not familiar with none of that actually
golden crystal
Okay this is the second time I got a chaos defiance and it didn’t check off the list of prophecies
Wtf
Should I go to the tech support chat or is there something I can do about that
slow mortar
is there a prophecy for getting all unique aspect hammers?
latent moon
yeah there should be
sharp stone
Woke up from a nightmare where Hades had in-game purchases that required real money
stone rune
it’s already a gacha game
just one more step
only 4.99 to get a 2sack next 200 runs
latent moon
me when i spend $500 in hades to get marginally better odds
stone rune
9.99 for 34 skip
sharp stone
just one more step
Microtransactions.
Gods, that's so messed up.
Purchasing a Death Defiance for $2.99 USD in the well of charon
tall holly
buy premium for 14.99 USD/mo. for yellow mirror functions
grand osprey
so i tried that hera bow + crush shot build and the first boon i got is epic crush shot
this is already ridiculously strong
grand osprey
why did i waste a death defiance on dad phase 1 then beat phase 2 in like 20 seconds no-hit
torn phoenix
What is the highest heat anyone has completed?
gray apex
What is the highest heat anyone has completed?
64
sharp stone
What is the highest heat anyone has completed?
13 before I got to the mini arc ||where Dusa gets fired|| so I abandoned the save file and started a new one
main talon
so i tried that hera bow + crush shot build and the first boon i got is epic cru...
sounds right
pastel monolith
64?? isnt that the max heat?
i thought the most anyone ever completed unmodded was like 60
elder nebula
So i've noticed that the boons and daedalus hammers aren't entirely random and seem to be predetermined. So is there any like way to get a good combination of daedalus other than just repeatedly killing yourself.
pastel monolith
nope its random after the first room
so if you get a hammer u like in the first room.. keep playing till u get 2nd hammer in elysium.. if its not the one u want.. give up and start again.. first room will be the same and 2nd one will be different
elder nebula
Damn. cause like with exagryph it's basically pointless if you don't get the two special hammers or a good combo of attacks.
pastel monolith
its a bit complicated..if you give up and start again its the same "seed" so first room is always the same but the way you play chNges the rng
so technically if you do everything EXACTLY the same.. it will be the same
but its impossible lol
thats how ppl do "routed seed runs"
they use mods that show the rng numbers and save states to manipulate the rng and find out exactly how to get ideal rooms and boons etc
formal citrus
what build for that
Zeus zeus explosive return I believe
raw herald
what build for that
Zeus shield with thunder flourish
formal citrus
Throw dash strike bull rush repeat
raw herald
https://youtu.be/fOJ_qJhcGEk routed clear
The modded clear is on bilibili
pastel monolith
still impressive but to me doesnt rly count as doing 64 heat
my favorite routed run ive seen was by vorime .. insane speed run using move speed buffs and rush delivery.. its on youtube and also haelian did a reaction video for it explaining more whats going on too and how impressive it is
raw herald
Nobody’s done it unmodded without a route
latent moon
There's still the modded seeded 64 by the Chinese players
ionic hemlock
64 heat is hell mode only right
pastel monolith
whats highest unmodded heat tho? i think it's 60 but im not sure
latent moon
62 Zeus shield
latent moon
64 heat is hell mode only right
Yes
gray apex
whats highest unmodded heat tho? i think it's 60 but im not sure
Well the route is unmodded
pastel monolith
choosing a seed is still a mod
unless the they just kept doing give up over and over without any mods.. but doubt it haha
gray apex
"legit play"
raw herald
to me unmodded means you didnt modify the game files in any way
latent moon
me and the boys getting shafted in styx on a game winning run
pastel monolith
what would be a better word then besides unmodded meaning like
honest no cheating no tricks no save scumming etc.. just legitimate normal play through the way the game was meant to be played
sour fog
usually you'd just say unrouted/unseeded
latent moon
Unmodded unseeded unrouted yeah
Bajs 64 was unmodded routed
The 64 was modded seeded
spring rain
is it possible to find satyr like in the first room you try
or nah
I always find it in the second room go to
mint coral
is it possible to find satyr like in the first room you try
Nope
As you noticed only from 2nd tunnel and onwards
spring rain
lameeee
pastel monolith
its something like 60% chance each room afte the first and 100% on the 5th if u havent found it yet
pastel monolith
its almost always the second or third
spring rain
its always there I die
pastel monolith
got dammit I hate the final boss so much
ah hes not so bad
key is learn to time the dash when he does his spin attack.. the rest is pretty easy.. also the lasers in phase 2 can do a lot of damage but they are easy to avoid
either hide behind a pillar or just go super close to him
spring rain
no its not easy :)
pastel monolith
dont recomend going close if ur new
grand osprey
if you suck at dodging Ddash + greatest reflex is an amazing combo for survivability
pastel monolith
wait till u see his final form with extreme measures lol
grand osprey
and yeah, over time you do leart how to avoid all of dad's attacks
mint coral
Fists moment
spring rain
I'm gonna turn on god mode again this game is impossible
pastel monolith
its easy for me to say its not bad bc ive fought him like 1000 times lol
grand osprey
wait till u see his final form with extreme measures lol
i literally just beat him at EM4
he's definitely much harder but also much more fun
worth the challange imo
pastel monolith
em4 still gets me most of the time
grand osprey
yeah i play on low heat i don't want every moment of my run to be stressful
pastel monolith
my casual runs are like 23 to 25 heat
grand osprey
might try 16 heat for my 50th run
pastel monolith
ive had a lot of practice though
grand osprey
i have not as you can see
pastel monolith
and i still lose at em4
grand osprey
i only tried EM4 twice so far and both times with no extra modifiers
pastel monolith
there is no escape
ive unlocked everything so unless im going for a new PB or something it doesnt bother me to lose at the last boss
grand osprey
i still have a lot to unlock
pastel monolith
its just practice lol
grand osprey
i mean i'm not even at 50 runs yet it's not even remotely possible to have everything unlocked at this point
pastel monolith
i would encourage you to avoid god mod.. if u plan to keep playing hades.. you will eventually get better and stronger
pastel monolith
i mean i'm not even at 50 runs yet it's not even remotely possible to have every...
i didnt beat hades till my 51st run on my first file
grand osprey
the longer i talk with people here the more i realize my first win being on run 13 is kinda insane
pastel monolith
it really is
i watch a lot of new players on twitch and even with help from chat.. most ppls first win is like 20-30 runs
theres no shame in god mode though.. especially if u just wana get thru it and finish the story or if u just suck.. especially if ur disabled or something
stone rune
might try 16 heat for my 50th run
hl1 em2 bp2 mm uc td2
pastel monolith
god mode is perfectly acceptable for any reason
grand osprey
hl1 em2 bp2 mm uc td2
i like your funny words Hades man
pastel monolith
but if ur like me.. i would never put on god mode.. i just love hades so much i grind it out till i got good lol
but i dont really like most games so if i find a game i like.. such as hades.. i play it forever
grand osprey
but if ur like me.. i would never put on god mode.. i just love hades so much i ...
yeah same
why use god mode when athena boons exist
unfortunately i do not have a screenshot of the end of my first successful run
pastel monolith
i watched a guy on twitch who was disabled and he did a lot of controls with some kinda device in his mouth
even he didnt use god mode
just sayin...
grand osprey
Hades is so well balanced everyone finds it fun no matter how long it takes to break past each wall
stone rune
yea despite having plyaed a good few hours now ive never gamer raged at hades
back when i mainly played multiplayer fps games i got pissed at the games basically every day
hades is just fun
pastel monolith
yeah even when get scammed by a 5 sack or something its like o well. better luck next time shrug
im not much of a gamer rage guy anyway tho
latent moon
i like your funny words Hades man
those are pact abbreviations, pinned in #h1-high-heat-strategies
pastel monolith
i remember as a kid one of my friends who was and still is 10000x better than me at games.. he would occasionally get so mad that he smash his controller and break it
like bro it's just a game.. also now u have a broken controller..
grand osprey
yeah with Hades it's basically impossible to ragequit
i basically never rage when playing any single-player game tbh
but then i play one round of CS:GO or something and i gotta stop because of anger
pastel monolith
but i cant judge lol hes legit .. hes so much better at games than everyone else i know
grand osprey
unless i play with friends FPS games are unbearable
stone rune
thats why basically every game ive played in the past year or two has been singleplayer
grand osprey
the pause button is an underrated feature
stone rune
although now i think about it ive probably gamer raged the hardest at singleplayer games
pastel monolith
even just if my cat is yelling at me or somethin
grand osprey
ironically the singleplayer game that made me rage the most is also probably my favourite
hollow knight
but as any singleplayer game i just took a break, came back a few hours (or days) later and 9 times out of 10 beat whatever i was struggling with pretty fast
latent moon
if only that worked with celeste :(
pastel monolith
in the last 10 years or so the games i actualy played are mostly single player.
hades
stardew
celeste
tunic
terraria
goldeneye 007
mario maker
fight night champion
ori 1 and 2
.. idk im sure im forgetting something but the list is small and mostly single player
grand osprey
if only that worked with celeste :(
farewell was absolute torture
stone rune
ive played like
pastel monolith
couldnt get into hollow knight
same, i know i will love hollow knight when i finally get into it
latent moon
farewell was absolute torture
i'm still stuck there lmao
i used a multiplayer mod with my friend to get through all except the last room on farewell, but im still stuck on some random level on my own save
pastel monolith
i have not pased the farewell
i did the b sides for sure and i think most of the c sides
grand osprey
the last room of farewell was designed by a sadist i swear
and i thought 8C was bad...
pastel monolith
maybe i did all the c sides i dont remember now.. i went thru a celeste phase
great game
like hades, and mario maker.. i love the quick responsive controls
grand osprey
honestly i couldn't rank all my favourite games
there are so many good ones
pastel monolith
how u get better by actually playing better and being faster with the buttons and the reflexes and practice
grand osprey
i know what my top 5 is but not the order
grand osprey
how u get better by actually playing better and being faster with the buttons a...
yeah feeling yourself get better at games is great
pastel monolith
i know what my top 5 is but not the order
top 5 are usualy tied for 1st
all time id say hades might be my #1 all time favorite tho
grand osprey
I'm new to hades but it rocketed up there in like 2 days
pastel monolith
its just so good.. and it got me excited about gaming in a way i havent felt in years
stone rune
hades is my 2nd
pastel monolith
my top 5 games are probably (no particular order)
hades
mario maker
super mario world
stardew valley
chrono trigger
stone rune
idk ive just got half life and then hades
pastel monolith
wheres half life 3 tho
stone rune
probably cruelty squad 3rd
grand osprey
Mine are (in no particular order)
Hollow knight
Hades
Outer wilds
Celeste
Minecraft (+ a crapton of mods)
pastel monolith
solid list
i just got brand new xbox controllers so im enjoying hades properly again
learn from my mistakes.. never buy used or "refurbished" controllers.. they all suck
get brand new ones from game stop.. get the 10 dollar 1 year warranty.. replace em once a year for another 10 bucks
i tried to get refurbished ones .. 0/4 worked properly
native blade
If you have two requirements for a boon does it make the chance of it spawning better?
stone rune
no
native blade
Thx, how u doin btw?
stone rune
good hbu
raw herald
That’s a lotta damage
grand osprey
does slicing shot always gain 2 damage every level after the first?
i somehow managed to not get a single boon in all of asphodel
sharp stone
I am so glad that there isn't a "bond broken" feature
latent moon
i somehow managed to not get a single boon in all of asphodel
That's kinda surprising considering miniboss tends to always be offered
carmine cloak
Is it true that to max Hypnos you have to die to different enemies and hazards?
sour fog
it's a quest for Hypnos but you don't have to do it
to get max approval
if we're talking about the autograph for him
it has no rewards or anything
so unless you want to see the dialogue there isn't a reason to do it
grand osprey
so, i got beowulf
i again ask for your good builds
stone rune
start flood flare
see if u cant get artemis in tart
if not force her in aspho
take deadly strike if you can but deadly flourish works too
run god's legacy
in mirror
roll hermes for rush delivery
first hermes should be hyper sprint
second rush delivery
grand osprey
gotta reset mirror again, i'm still not maxed
stone rune
and the general goal is to pom the flare a lot and get mirage shot duo
grand osprey
got it
stone rune
if you see the charged shot hammer take it
grand osprey
screw it, doing EM4 right away
ahhhh mirage shot just didn't show up
used all my rerolls too
stone rune
hermes
2nd hammer on beo doesnt matter
unless its cshot
fero guard is kinda something
grand osprey
got through elysium, still no mirage shot
terse crypt
Funny when i say "this run won't get me anywhere" gets hit twice against the heroes and decimates em
drowsy linden
hooray i beat hades
||~~found out about phase 2 for the first time and got annihilated becasue i had around 10 health ~~||
brisk trail
hooray i beat hades
||~~found out about phase 2 for the first time and got annih...
Good job!
tiny mica
Yeah redacted is annoying like that
||final phase of extreme measures is killing me tho||
I literally just cant on Champions with em
drowsy linden
hooray i beat hades
||~~found out about phase 2 for the first time and got annih...
yeah i have a lot more gitting gud to do as in actually paying attention and trying to dodge, and then ill be able to not use varatha
sour fog
my first clear was also spear, but after some time it became my least liked weapon
tiny mica
After i unlocked the last aspect i hated it
Rail and fists are my favourite
I can clear sub-20 with the right build
brisk trail
Spear was the first weapon i cleared a run with for me too
Spear is like the easiest to me
Achilles aspect
drowsy linden
the range while still having damage and speed
brisk trail
W opinion
stone rune
not rlly an opinion
tiny mica
imo rail has the best special
tiny mica
Especially if u get the daedalus hammer
stone rune
without either rocket cluster or hazard though it kinda sucks
tiny mica
The daedalus hammer upgrade where u can spawn like 7 bonbs at once is ligerally broken
terse crypt
I like fists a lot
tiny mica
U can beat a run so quickly
drowsy linden
without either rocket cluster or hazard though it kinda sucks
triple bomb?
tiny mica
I like fists a lot
Yeah u get up in their face then fist them
stone rune
the cooldowns are annoying
tiny mica
So fun to play with
stone rune
it's so hard to use on hestia
tiny mica
the cooldowns are annoying
Yeah
stone rune
would rather have hazard
stone rune
U can beat a run so quickly
brisk trail
I like fists a lot
oooh magnetic
stone rune
only good fists aspect is dem
terse crypt
I use dem
tiny mica
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/771815559410876446/1079295804419874918/...
Sheeeeeesh
brisk trail
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/771815559410876446/1079295804419874918/...
whoa
tiny mica
only good fists aspect is dem
Is that the one where u can ur special 5 times in a row
stone rune
yea
stone rune
talos sucks and zagfists does nothing and gilga is the worst aspect in the game
stone rune
What boon do u usually get wjth it
ME
tiny mica
talos sucks and zagfists does nothing and gilga is the worst aspect in the game
Zagfists + lambent plume
stone rune
ive been playing splash start though
tiny mica
= cant touch this
tiny mica
ive been playing splash start though
Splash start?
stone rune
tidal dash start
terse crypt
Are melee attacks deflectable?
brisk trail
tidal dash start
oooh
tiny mica
Oh
tiny mica
Are melee attacks deflectable?
Yes
brisk trail
Are melee attacks deflectable?
i think so yes
terse crypt
tidal dash start
I start with athena eitherdash or std attaack
stone rune
stone rune
I start with athena eitherdash or std attaack
on fists?
terse crypt
yes
tiny mica
tidal dash start
Wouldnt that just keep knocking away enemies tho?
stone rune
athena attack on fists sucks
stone rune
Wouldnt that just keep knocking away enemies tho?
just time it right
brisk trail
I start with athena eitherdash or std attaack
dash better
stone rune
athena attack on fists sucks
an epic athena attack is an 80% boost
that's like
a whole 7 damage
terse crypt
i started playing yesterday lol, i pick attack when dash is not available
tiny mica
I start with athena eitherdash or std attaack
std attack 💀
tiny mica
Damn
tiny mica
It’s so weird like your right but you still deal damage so quickly
For me anyways
Because of the amount of hits u get
stone rune
damage and quickly is relative
tiny mica
Well compared to the shield
stone rune
terse crypt
So if i get like Athena Std, Special and Cast , i should pick?
stone rune
special
stone rune
Oh this is with the cast loading aspect
yea
brisk trail
Bow or shield? Which one is better? (i actually have no idea about technical stuff)
stone rune
depends
brisk trail
I'm listening
stone rune
if you mean shield that isnt beo or zeus, bow
if you mean beo, shield
if you mean zeus, shield
brisk trail
So if I don't get Zeus bow is better
stone rune
hera is rlly good
stone rune
however it also depends on context
terse crypt
Which hammer upgrade do i take
- Robust when Std, Spec
- Std has more range and 10% damage
- Special becomes kick with 40 damage twice
stone rune
hera is better than zeus for heat
probably long knuckle
rush kick is fake
and the sturdy is also fake
long knuckle just gives u safety
the best hammers for fists are from best to less best breaching cross, explosive upper/kinetic launcher, long knuckle
eupper vs kinetic is generally preference
eupper is like better in more scenarios
but i pick kinetic because its fun
tiny mica
This guy probably has more than 3 hours in hades
stone rune
latent moon
hera is better than zeus for heat
doesn't hera die at high heat
latent moon
that makes sense lmao
stone rune
you should try splash start dem
latent moon
i should just not play fists
stone rune
its like good
latent moon
i kinda wanna get good at achilles
stone rune
ive pulled out like 3 low 7s
stone rune
achilles hard
latent moon
i mean yeah
that's why i wanna play it more
it's like the only other speedrunning aspect that doesn't need a controller to feel good
stone rune
i mean
theres a lot of those
nem
achilles
beo
dem
eris
hestia
the only one that actually sucks huge ass to play kbm is hera
latent moon
i dont like kbm rail that much even with auto aim tbh
latent moon
nem and dem kinda not fun imo
stone rune
nem is fun
latent moon
melee kinda cringe
stone rune
deME isnt fun but splash start is
spring rain
nemo aspect?
stone rune
ive figured outt
i can start with the same keepsake and mirror for nearly every single thing
latent moon
eternal rose kinda cringe
main talon
I would disagree but I realise I have no argument only that I like bone hourglass
latent moon
hourglass is based
spring rain
I like the one that you get from cerberus
my runs are like
Athena
Aries
lucky tooth
or sometimes
Cerberus item
Athena
lucky tooth
stone rune
my runs are like
conch shell
adamant arrowhead
bone hourglass
sigil of the dead
or sometimes
conch shell
bone hourglass
sigil of the dead
spring rain
I always use lucky tooth for the final boss
cause I always die 2 times
is like set in stone "gotta die twice before killing hades"
every run
latent moon
I always use lucky tooth for the final boss
eurydice's acorn is better for dad fight
you should try that if you're dying a lot
acorn negates more damage than what you get from tooth
assuming you dont get hit by adds
formal citrus
Frickenlasers
spring rain
eurydice's acorn is better for dad fight
I don't even know what it does tbh
stone rune
i think i must have like committed war crimes in a past life for this god forlorn rng rn
main talon
what boon do you get with conch shell usually jazz
stone rune
tdash or flood flare
latent moon
I don't even know what it does tbh
negates 5 hites in a boss fight
latent moon
minimum damage you take from dad is 20, which is just his cast and skull wave
if you take 5 hits from that, it's already 100 and it's the same as tooth
if you get hit by a swing it's 40
latent moon
tbh I get hit more than 5 times so its not very useful for me
that's why it's useful lmao
stone rune
do you think i could sub7 a 231
latent moon
since you get hit more than 5 times, negating 5 of those hits is very strong
stone rune
i have a great build
formal citrus
if you take 5 hits from that, it's already 100 and it's the same as tooth
Tbf, damage doesn't carry over to tooth hp
So more than 100 in that wau
latent moon
also @formal citrus only ichors hypermodded by k33p0ut
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/857268448039927858/1120119038970970202/speedpain.mp4
from what we were talking about in #h1-for-new-players lmao
spring rain
also <@282599283499204610> only ichors hypermodded by k33p0ut
https://cdn.disco...
what am I watching
formal citrus
Oh it affects dash length? Lol
formal citrus
Yeye
stone rune
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1028112977100017666/1129911490246365242/image.png what do i do
formal citrus
How do you buy 15 ichors?
stone rune
roll wells
latent moon
hypermodded makes it so you can only buy ichors from wells or something like that idk i've never played it
stone rune
theres a version for it
latent moon
or you can make it that way
stone rune
normally its just normal wells'
formal citrus
So not modding
latent moon
stone rune
the tinge of erebus stuff
latent moon
this was his victory screen
stone rune
not looking good
ive already played too much of the video game
and in typical aspho fashion my midshop has disappeared
and i didnt hit rd
lmao
terse crypt
|| Getting to hades every run, dies as soon as the second bar appears ||
I think i may have to be more careful with my fighting so i reach to him with some revives
terse crypt
dio ares or zeus
demeter good on fists std?
latent moon
(what does std here mean)
stone rune
attack
terse crypt
My game is in spanish, they call them Standard attack, Special attack, Throwable, and Dash
stone rune
yea generally it's just attack and special
terse crypt
zeus on fists feels amazing
latent moon
yeah you're gonna get a lot more damage out of that than like any % lmao
try and find static discharge and pom that as much as possible
terse crypt
pom?
stone rune
increase level
hard garden
Are you supposed to be able to shoot the cast into places such that the crystal is unobtainable because it's behind an invisible wall? It's always annoying when that happens.
hard garden
Yeah, but it's just dumb that you can't pick it up so you're essentially down a cast until the end of that encounter, IMO.
stone rune
you can shoot it over into uncollectable areas like the middle of the bridge room
or in the lake in dad
hard garden
Yeah, that's what I meant by invisible walls: areas you can't access in order to collect it on account of there being a wall blocking you from it.
latent moon
Don't aim there then lmao
stone rune
only really a risk of that on like hera
hard garden
Don't aim there then lmao
Mistakes happen 🤷
stone rune
and mistakes also can get punished
latent moon
So it's fine
hard garden
Yeah, but that just comes across like a bug to me, IMO.
latent moon
If it's happening like even once every other run then work on the aim
hard garden
Oh, no, it's like once every 5-10 runs, probably.
latent moon
Yeah, but that just comes across like a bug to me, IMO.
I mean kinda but also it seems like a fair bug if you ask me
stone rune
yea ive played 450 hours at this point and used cast a lot and ive probably latted in non hera situations less than 5 times
are you on controller or kbm
terse crypt
where are the screenshots loaded?
hard garden
kbm. Part of the issue may be that I generally use the cast as support rather than as primary damage since, at least at my stage of the game, it's generally better as such.
stone rune
well if you're not on a cast build it's either to lodge for boiling blood or to take out like a brimstone
hard garden
Yeah, it's for lodge for the extra damage most of the time.
hard garden
Uhhh... I'm assuming that's where the cast curves a tiny bit toward enemies? Yeah, that's on.
terse crypt
Ares + athena busted
hard garden
Ah, yeah. That’s on. Doesn’t do very much, but yes.
stone rune
i guess you could use stygian soul
hard garden
I was wondering, how does that interact with the Hermes boons affecting casts?
stone rune
you get different hermes based on stygian or infernal
hard garden
Oh, noted.
stone rune
auto reload vs quick reload and the other one thats useless
i forget what it is
oh
flurry csat
hard garden
Flurry cast has been nice in the few instances where I’ve needed casts as damage.
hard garden
I am not familiar enough to understand these terms. 
hard garden
I’m curious, does hermes eventually scale better as you upgrade stuff? At the moment his boons generally aren’t super helpful, though a few are nice.
hard garden
Okay, so it must scale better then. At the moment, he’s the worst set of boons.
hard garden
Or maybe not. Evidently there’s a disagreement.
stone rune
i guess that means it scales with ur pers level
hard garden
I meant scaling in terms of weapon upgrading with Titan blood, sorry.
hard garden
My weapons have basically no blood in them atm since I only have 40 hours in the game, so Hermes is largely useless. I was wondering if that changes as I invested. 😛
latent moon
Hera quick reload probably
stone rune
o yea
latent moon
Rd would scale for aspects that improve overall damage per level too
Like hestia and Achilles
latent moon
Technically yeah but also you're still gonna want Rd lmao
stone rune
well yea
latent moon
But like overall
latent moon
What you want from hermes doesn't really change no matter what stage in the game you are
Unless it's high heat I guess and you put quick recovery and side hustle at a higher pedestal lmao
hard garden
Of the useful ones I’ve found from Hermes, it seems to just be hustle, swift strike/flourish, flurry cast, and quick favor.
stone rune
swift strike and flourish arent useful
flurry cast is only useful in like 1 minute scenario
and quick favor exists only to make ur hermes worse
hard garden
I guess it must change as you upgrade weapons, then. Those have been useful to me.
hard garden
Those are the least useful ones… what matters is DPS, not movement. At least so far.
stone rune
lol
latent moon
I guess it must change as you upgrade weapons, then. Those have been useful to m...
It changes when you realize that there's better options lmao
stone rune
none of the options u listed give remotely as much dps as rd
hard garden
It changes when you realize that there's better options lmao
Like not getting Hermes
latent moon
Those are the least useful ones… what matters is DPS, not movement. At least so ...
Greatest reflex translates to more dps because you get more dash strikes
Hyper sprint is a prereq for rush delivery, which is a global damage boost
stone rune
or more tdashes
latent moon
Or yeah more tdashes which is a lot more damage
stone rune
yea
latent moon
Helps a lot for survivability at higher heats and speed if you're trying to get under tight deadline as well
hard garden
In terms of DPS, he’s pretty negligible. Unless rd stacks multiplicatively unlike other things.
stone rune
why would stacking multiplicatively matter
latent moon
Movement speed is multiplicative
stone rune
a 50 to 100% damage boost is massive
latent moon
So technically Rd scales multiplicative
stone rune
and yea mult scaling with ichors
latent moon
Also yeah it doesn't really matter
hard garden
a 50 to 100% damage boost is massive
Because that’s less than other multipliers you can get.
latent moon
Also considering pom drop off
stone rune
Because that’s less than other multipliers you can get.
you can't get a multiplier on tdash
hard garden
tdash?
latent moon
Tidal dash
stone rune
or zeus/dio/ares damage
latent moon
Fattest dash in the game
stone rune
cast damage only has 2 sources of additive that arent global
both of which are pretty elusive
hard garden
Oh, I don’t even consider dashes as damage since they only do like 10.
stone rune
🗿
latent moon
Tidal dash is like base 50 or something idk
stone rune
49 at epic
hard garden
Which is still leagues worse than weapons.
stone rune
25
hard garden
Yes, but you’ll be ending your runs with +700% or so damage.
latent moon
Not really
stone rune
you're not ending runs with 700% additive
hard garden
That’s what I’ve done so far.
stone rune
on hestia 350 is massive
latent moon
That's straight up from chaos then not god boons
stone rune
yea
latent moon
And if you're getting that much from chaos then that'll make a lot of things broken
hard garden
Couple +100% enchantments, aphro gives 150-200%, then another 1-200 from chaos.
latent moon
Aphro giving that much is heroic
stone rune
yeah heroic high level
latent moon
Which isn't consistent
hard garden
Nah, aphro gives more damage on her boons for some weird reason.
stone rune
on spec it's epic
latent moon
She does a lot but not that much
hard garden
So if you level it up with a Pom or two, it’s good.
stone rune
epic aph is 100
latent moon
2 poms isn't getting to 200
stone rune
160 on spec
hard garden
Hence why I specified a range.
latent moon
2 poms isn't 150 yeah
stone rune
and attack/spec poms fall off fast
hard garden
But usually I end up with like 3-4 poms. But I also don’t run speed pacts yet, so I guess that has some impact.
latent moon
You'd put like 2 into the attack and the rest into tdash
Tdash is a lot stronger than yoh give it credit for
hard garden
Maybe so. I’ll have to try it out again. I just don’t see it winding up with the DPS of weapons.
latent moon
A good chunk of aspects start tdash because of the damage
For speedrunning
Some don't start it but force it later
Also has shaols scaling and Styx deletion via breaking wave
hard garden
I guess. But like I said, I’m not running the speed pact yet. That’s one of the last pacts I’ll run since I absolutely hate time constraints.
hard garden
Getting flashbacks from Isaac, now. At least this game is player controlled instead of RNG.
hard garden
Game time vs real time? I take it that’s something unlocked later?
stone rune
speedrun modpack
hard garden
Gotcha. Nothing I have to worry about then. Never had any interest in speedruns.
stone rune
https://youtu.be/TNzQIlU-ZtI?t=1015 heres tdash doing 191 per
hard garden
Man, I’d kill for a buy 10 option on keys…
spring rain
https://youtu.be/TNzQIlU-ZtI?t=1015 heres tdash doing 191 per
what the
LET HIM BREATHE
MY GOD
upbeat walrus
Man, I’d kill for a buy 10 option on keys…
^^^
sharp stone
Hey, what breed is cerberus
main talon
Good boy breed
agile basin
Hey, what breed is cerberus
Dog(s)
mint coral
What wep is this, chiron?
spring rain
Zeus aspect and I have charged shot
spring rain
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
uuuuh okay uuuh is there any other good hammer upgrade I could get?
stone rune
on zeus just explosive return
spring rain
tbh I'm not even using my special
spring rain
yeah I'm just spamming charged shot
stone rune
the only damage you actually have on attack is the cshot
which is good
but you can still put out the special while you're cshotting
spring rain
I got the hammer upgrade!
spring rain
https://ibb.co/FXRcW9s ONLY ONE MORE W FOR 10 WINS
mint coral
Olympian favor gaming
spring rain
Btw I had athena's defence buff and also the love lady's defence buff
it was awesoem
Bro the sad singer whom I've forgotten the name
he's like SHRRREEEDING in there
bro's going crazy on that
brisk trail
Would someone mind explaining the ||Arthur aspect?||
wait should I mark that as spoiler?
just in case tho
mint coral
Spoilers are allowed here
stone rune
Would someone mind explaining the ||Arthur aspect?|| <:zagsad:101280527551170155...
obtaining it?
brisk trail
No, like what does it do
stone rune
changes your attacks to be heavier and slower
and your dash strike
gives you more health and when you special puts down a thingy
terse crypt
Where are the screenshots saved?
sour fog
if you mean the ingame screenshots done through F11 then it's Documents/Saved Games/Hades/Screenshots
latent turtle
HEY how do I get this game to stop opening this server every time I launch it
latent moon
Deleting discord would probably work
latent turtle
good idea!
void vigil
HEY how do I get this game to stop opening this server every time I launch it
if its a genuine problem you are having, you could ask in #h1-tech-support how to solve it
terse crypt
the fact that i can get consistently to floor 4 and then die to the final boss is annoying
calm glacier
need help getting last 2 keep sakes. Don't know who to gift to
stone rune
have u beaten the game
stone rune
far left is shackle from sisyphus
||far right is either mom pom from persephone or dad call from dad||
brisk trail
the bottom row, far left and far right ones.
Hades and Persephone?
calm glacier
okedoke, ty
stone rune
brisk trail
okedoke, ty
Hades is not going to give it to ya the first time I think
OH HOW DO I GET THE COMPANION
calm glacier
|| do i need to finish it 10 times first? ||
brisk trail
|| do i need to finish it 10 times first? ||
Not sure, I got it after I did though
stone rune
|| do i need to finish it 10 times first? ||
yea
errant trout
Can I ask modding questions here?
errant trout
I don't think I'm deep enough in the matter to join that 🙈 but thanks! I installed my very first mod today (speedrun modpack) to the steam deck and everything worked out, but I was wondering if there is a way to only apply the modpack to one save. Currently, it affects all saves and I was hoping that I could keep an unmodded one.
Thought maybe some of you have experience with stuff like that :)
stone rune
idts
idk about steam deck but generally it's easy to swap between modded and unmodded
stone rune
have two folders
one labelled ModsPack or something witht he mods
one labelled ModsUnm or something that's empty
rename which one you want to use to Mods, run modimporter
errant trout
ahh, clever! Thanks, that should work on steam deck as well
latent moon
Basically rename the mods folder to something else then run modimporter
Really easy surprisingly lmao
errant trout
👍 gonna do it like this then, thanks for the advice!
stone rune
Basically rename the mods folder to something else then run modimporter
if you dont keep an empty folder you have to delete the unmodded folder every time
cause it makes an empty Mods folder anyways
rough bolt
stone rune
flurry jab gg
raw herald
nice
errant trout
many more to come :)
calm glacier
i have a question. Any buffs you get, lets say the butterfly keepsake you gain lets say 20% extra damage, will that damage dissappear if you unequipt the keepsake in a later chamber? Another example for this question is the wine god's boon where drinking a fountain restores all health AND gain extra damage (rare is 4% per fountain). If you purge the boon, will you keep the damage you had stacked up until that point from any fountains used?
formal citrus
i have a question. Any buffs you get, lets say the butterfly keepsake you gain l...
Yes you have to keep butterfly equipped
stone rune
and you have to keep strong drink
calm glacier
:/ thats annoying, but makes sense
thanks
:)
what would be the best chamber to use the butterfly then?
stone rune
never
stone rune
yep
calm glacier
so its like really not worth it then
stone rune
yea
calm glacier
F
formal citrus
F
If you were going to use it, any build where you can avoidance pretty often and use damage sources that are otherwise hard to % buff. Like lightning, hang over, big dash damages, doom, casts sorta.
calm glacier
Dunno what those are :(
formal citrus
Hoarding slash!
calm glacier
Also i'm sad, i lost my streak. Had 5 wins. Didn't get the boons i wanted
formal citrus
Heat?
stone rune
yea
formal citrus
C shot seems more conducive to safety but I'm getting you have td3 so idk
stone rune
stone rune
C shot seems more conducive to safety but I'm getting you have td3 so idk
cshot is less safe and better damage
stone rune
8
formal citrus
the things people do to avoid em4 why is cshot less safe?
stone rune
you lose iframes on bull rush
stone rune
~~the things people do to avoid em4~~ why is cshot less safe?
i'm not playing monodash em4
just got a 2 enemy erebus ???
formal citrus
Yeye, was just making a joke about if that wasn't the intentional gimmick
Doing rerolls?
stone rune
if i get keys i can roll
or else it's just miserable
i would have lost on a hermes screen i just got
haste evasion sprint
terse crypt
Finally got fated persuasion , now athena won't do me dirty (she will)
spring rain
I finished the game finally
10 w`s
the ending was cool
very wholesome according to my husband
whom`s I spoiled the entire ending
still python
guys i lost all my progress
wasnt that far in but like
how do i beat the game while being incredibly weak
im planning on investing into hestia
manic drift
Hey all is there mods for hades? If so, is there a mod that let's you loop? Like In other rogue like games.
It's a bummer that you can't continue past hades and get a god run going. It is a game about God's after all 😩
stone rune
can always just get a god run in one run
there are mods
most prevalent is speedrun modpack
worthy panther
Idk if this is legal but
Is it just me or does Hades make everyone who plays it realize they’re bisexual
latent moon
That's pretty normal from what I've heard
tender solstice
Is it just me or does Hades make everyone who plays it realize they’re bisexual
the celeste effect
tepid light
undone condor
I love Ares' design it makes him so much more than just big dumb angy war god and I really like that
uneven cloak
regarding fishing spots
can you only get 1 fish per region if you didn't include stuff like charon buffs?
grand osprey
wait how did i die from tight deadline
my game was paused????
there goes my 26 win streak i guess
worthy panther
there goes my 26 win streak i guess
Wait what
Can’t you only beat Hades 9 times then the game ends or am I tripping
grand osprey
well that's when the ending of the game happens but you can still keep playing
its not even the end of the story
spring rain
I just now noticed that charon ain't a skeleton
worthy panther
there's still endgame progression of story
I was told when you beat the game you beat the game and that’s it
worthy panther
Neat
uneven cloak
but the game won't
worthy panther
but the game won't
Does it really take hundreds of hours to 100% hades
spring rain
No?
He does have a skull face under his big hat, but https://ibb.co/hKP097X
that arm is not a skeleton arm
AT ALL
latent moon
Does it really take hundreds of hours to 100% hades
You can 100% the game in less than 100 if you don't do the resource director
worthy panther
You can 100% the game in less than 100 if you don't do the resource director
The what
latent moon
Have you cleared 10 times yet
worthy panther
Haven’t even cleared once 💀
latent moon
Ah
latent moon
Should probably stick to #h1-for-new-players to avoid spoilers lmao
worthy panther
Or does it take a lot of progress to kill him
worthy panther
Should probably stick to <#725021347968712724> to avoid spoilers lmao
If you haven’t killed hades you count as a new player? Jeez there really is a lot in this game
uneven cloak
go to #h1-for-new-players if you haven't even cleared it once
every other channel will spoil you
grand osprey
is there any way to reroll the seed for a run other than dying on purpose
spring rain
https://ibb.co/tJZC5wQ I hate this game
Oh lame I don't get to water the crops myself
guys whats a erebus gate
grand osprey
guys whats a erebus gate
enter, beat up enemies without getting hit, get reward
uneven cloak
Guan Yu Spin deflect build is pretty fun
formal citrus
That's a bug I need to try out
stone rune
Guan Yu Spin deflect build is pretty fun
have u played with charged skewer
uneven cloak
not yet. But it's a really risky weapon
HP cap is incredibly low and the lifesteal ain't all that strong
stone rune
HP cap is incredibly low and the lifesteal ain't all that strong
yea generally u don’t use the spin
stone rune
so long as you can get charged skewer the strongest part of it is the special
stone rune
Beowulf build?
flood flare deadly strike (or deadly flourish, not worth rolling over) mirage shot
pom flood flare
try to get hyper sprint and rush delivery from hermes
try to get grasp and shot bonuses from chaos
try to get charged shot hammer
standard mirror, infernal soul and gods legacy
fiery presence
fated persuasion
dark foresight
family favorites
uneven cloak
ok I think I love Beowulf out of most weapons I've tried
I do like the added defensive option and slower battles of the shield
and Beowulf adds cast-types for it
stone rune
I do like the added defensive option and slower battles of the shield
beo has the 2nd fastest fights in the game
fastest with not superb enemies
but when there are just 4 mega chunky dudes hera will kill them faster
uneven cloak
got charged shot. Basically turns it now into a fat af Crush Eris shot