#h1-discussion

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stone rune
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well

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i guess they are

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but like

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you can clear with anything

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dodging is more important

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learning attack patterns

wary charm
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Is privileged status better than the green version?

stone rune
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no

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99% of the time

wary charm
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Ok thanks

stone rune
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family favorites is better

sleek robin
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Hmm

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I’ve never used it

wary charm
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I have chaos and zeus shield

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I need 5 for beowulf

stone rune
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don't use chaos though

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it sucks

wary charm
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What do i evolve

stone rune
wary charm
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With the 2 blood i have rn

stone rune
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the pins

wary charm
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ok

sleek robin
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Ppl can say hestia is good but i hate it

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And i just hate rail in general

stone rune
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well hestia is bad at low blood

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but that's like you and only you

wary charm
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What are you talking about

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Im talking about shields

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Rail sucks

sleek robin
wary charm
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Its only good for eris speedruners

stone rune
stone rune
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every aspect is good

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how did this get through

sleek robin
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Chaos

stone rune
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ok

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yeah

sleek robin
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Chiron ?

stone rune
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every rail aspect i meant

sleek robin
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U just said they were bad

stone rune
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zagrail is good

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eris is good

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hestia is good

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luci is good

wary charm
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i got charged shot too

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Damn that thing is good

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Incredbly good

latent moon
stone rune
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oh well yeah that's immediate win

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they don't call it aspect of cshot for nothing

sleek robin
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I prefer Playing chiron than any of the rail

stone rune
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well that's you

wary charm
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what should i make go up on my first heat run

sleek robin
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That’s me

wary charm
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upgraded safery?

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Safety

stone rune
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no

wary charm
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I need 1 heat

stone rune
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do extreme measures 1

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that image has everything

sleek robin
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Forced overtime is good too

stone rune
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FO is way too hard at low heat

wary charm
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alright

sleek robin
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Like that he can learn

sleek robin
stone rune
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don't do it for your first x heat

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you'll know if you want to practice it later

wary charm
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Im going with extreme measures

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Imma do it on 4

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Doesnt seen that hard

latent moon
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you cant do em4 yet

sleek robin
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Especially with extreme mesure

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All boss are faster

royal widget
wary charm
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is calisteny program easy or hard

royal widget
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hard

stone rune
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it is bad

wary charm
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ok

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Imma just do measures

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And finish the game again

latent moon
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i wouldn't necessarily say "hard" at this point, but it's just bad to take

wary charm
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Cause zeus shield is broken

sleek robin
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I don’t do it personally

sleek robin
wary charm
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Got charged shot first hammer gg

sleek robin
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Tho a lil hard to play

wary charm
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another easy win

sleek robin
wary charm
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now im going to chaos

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Watch him give me beowulf speech first tey

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Try

sleek robin
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Nice

wary charm
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Nevermind chaos hates me

sleek robin
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Someone knows a guan yu build ?

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Rng

wary charm
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then you kill hades

sleek robin
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I don’t work like that

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I like doing efficient things

latent moon
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it's mostly just special spam

sleek robin
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We use special ?

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Oh

latent moon
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yeah that's the best part of guan yu

sleek robin
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I see

stone rune
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guan yu standing strike sucks

latent moon
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special -> 2x dash strikes -> repeat for optimal dps

stone rune
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and dash strike is fine but you could just use achilles for that

sleek robin
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Yea

stone rune
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the most interesting part of gy is special

sleek robin
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Any atk boons ?

stone rune
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just like some kind of %

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maybe arty

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opens heart rend i guess

wary charm
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is the artemis call good?

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the other boons are special and cast

latent moon
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oh zeus shield i'd take call

sleek robin
latent moon
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lmfao

stone rune
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idk

latent moon
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TRUE

stone rune
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opens DR

wary charm
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What boon for zeus shield is good

stone rune
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zeus special

royal widget
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is PP required for deadly reversal/heart rend most of the time

stone rune
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why would it be

latent moon
# wary charm What boon for zeus shield is good

zeus: thunder flourish + static discharge. pour poms into static discharge. explosive return is best hammer, but can also take cshot and/or sudden rush. can also go with the smair strategy, take aphrodite atk and zeus/dio call if you want

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i typed this out recently so i just copy pasted

sleek robin
wary charm
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Idk whats static discharge

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Never got it

royal widget
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jolted

stone rune
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you can do double strike as well

latent moon
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oh yeah i forgot to mention to get every supporting zeus boon possible lol

stone rune
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high voltage :croven:

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open orange

royal widget
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STORM LIGHTTING

sleek robin
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?

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Splitting bolt if you get the chance

latent moon
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@stone rune what aspect is consistent for unmodded that isn't hera lol

wary charm
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I killed charon

stone rune
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well

wary charm
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Died 3 times but killed him

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Worth

stone rune
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hestia is pretty consistent so long as you're not going for sub...6?

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because you can do fine with first hammer ricochet piercing whatever

latent moon
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true

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oh dear lord my fastest time on rail is 13 minutes lmao

stone rune
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rama is probably pretty consistent

latent moon
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if i'm good at rama yeah

mint coral
latent moon
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idk if i'm gonna get a sub10 rama without twin shot lol

stone rune
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i mean

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perfect shot kinda budget twin if u stArty

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i mean

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if you arty into aspho

latent moon
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ayo c1 hammer lemme just save scum this to see if i can get a good hammer on a different aspect

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no rocket bomb, but there is delta

stone rune
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lmfao

silver mica
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delta?

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is that burst fire

stone rune
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lmfao

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eris time

latent moon
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no cshot :(

stone rune
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delta zagrail dusa

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see if flurry jab

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or dedge

latent moon
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i was gonna see if twin exists

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on zag and rama

stone rune
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oh u havent checked>

sleek robin
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Holy cow

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Guan yu lvl 1 is horrible

stone rune
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idk

sleek robin
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30hp thick skin

stone rune
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it's fine

latent moon
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perfect charged and chain bouldy

stone rune
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on low heat

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perfect time

sleek robin
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I’m on constant 7 cuz i keep extreme mesure lvl 1 and FO 2

stone rune
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yeah that counts

sleek robin
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Minimum

stone rune
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it's fine on speed pact

latent moon
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TWIN ON RAMA WOOOOO

stone rune
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nice

wary charm
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For zeus shield

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Destructive or minotaur rush

sleek robin
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Other than hermes what boon u get if not heartbreak flourish

wary charm
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the other hammer is ferocious guard

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I need to change my language to english so i can tell what i got better

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How do i do it

stone rune
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destructive?

stone rune
wary charm
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400% armor damage

stone rune
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what is destructive

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oh

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breaching

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yeah that

wary charm
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Mine is portuguese

latent moon
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bruh i got vorimed

stone rune
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i think minotaur rush makes your charge slower

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LMFAO

wary charm
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It says destrutiva

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aka destructive

royal widget
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which weapons have a breaching hammer

wary charm
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nah it just gives the shield a perfect shot like bow

sleek robin
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Destructive is when u get back ur shield from special

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Right

stone rune
royal widget
sleek robin
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Yea so that’s what he got

stone rune
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no it's breaching

sleek robin
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He should’ve take that

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Oh

sleek robin
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Nothing else

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Not even another boon from her?

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A duo ?

royal widget
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or you could try ME but i remember you hate that

sleek robin
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I wna play smth else than that indeed

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But it’s skow

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Slow*

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Why ME

royal widget
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charged skewer basically wins the game

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so

sleek robin
latent moon
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2:31 tart leave is sub10-able right

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right

royal widget
latent moon
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rama

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unmodded

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my only free room was chaos lol

royal widget
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probably

sleek robin
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Rama is slow

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How

stone rune
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idk it's rama it's fine

royal widget
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hits like a truck

stone rune
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praying for your neurons

latent moon
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i did get all the core gods already so that's cool

sleek robin
latent moon
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aphro atk, zeus special, pos cast, arty dash

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no jolted tho

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taking conch shell into aspho for breaking wave is such a weird idea tho lmao

sleek robin
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I imagine playing high confidance and guan yu lvl with the thing that reduce your heal in the pact

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How evil

royal widget
sleek robin
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Not lvl 1tho

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(Jk)

latent moon
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entering lernie at 4:04 bouldy

royal widget
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that's like me with beo

latent moon
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leaving aspho 4:55 lmfao god that was horrible

sleek robin
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Slow weapond casually being the fastest

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S*

latent moon
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rama isn't the slowest lol

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i think chiron is the slowest aspect on the leaderboard

sleek robin
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I wrote

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Slow weapons

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Being

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The fastest

latent moon
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oh lmao

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well hera exists

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but yeah

sleek robin
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Yea

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Hera is pretty fast

latent moon
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omg i forgot bull man miniboss was a thing

stone rune
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rama slow dusa

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so real

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LMFAO

latent moon
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oh god no guaranteed 2 sack and i'm already on such bad pace

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i'm going back to modded

sleek robin
latent moon
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aight that was a fast bullman fight but also pain

wary charm
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Do i get rare double activation or lighting stopper

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Zeus shield

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Zeus special

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Eletrificatiin

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Eletrification

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demeter cast

sleek robin
wary charm
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Yes

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For me its double activation

sleek robin
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And what is lighting stopper

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..

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Jolted

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?

wary charm
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your cast makes lightning fall onto the groumd

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Every 1 second

sleek robin
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On zoos you don’t use cast

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So double strike

wary charm
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Ok

sleek robin
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What is electrification ?

wary charm
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60 damage

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When u use lightning

sleek robin
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?

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Jolted

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?

wary charm
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Yes bro

sleek robin
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Well that was an important boon too

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If u can get it

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Take it

wary charm
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I have it already

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I listed the ones i have not the ones i got

sleek robin
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¿

rustic vale
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Static discharge is #1 zeus supporting boon

sleek robin
rustic vale
wary charm
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Yes

rustic vale
sleek robin
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Well next time go for jolted first

wary charm
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I have jolted discharge

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And double stirke

sleek robin
wary charm
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Goddamn

sleek robin
wary charm
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YES

sleek robin
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If you can get splitting bolt

wary charm
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Is it a duo boon

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How to get it

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Legendary?

sleek robin
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U got pretty much the boons u want for zoos aspect

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Legendary

wary charm
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Goddsmn

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How do i get legendarys

latent moon
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TINY VERMIN

wary charm
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I never got onee

latent moon
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i hate this game

sleek robin
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I think it unlocks with the 2 boons we talked about

wary charm
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Ok

sleek robin
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I’m not sure

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But for some gods

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U unlock it’s lengendary by having 2 out of 3 specific boons

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Idk if it’s the same for all

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I think

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Hermes and chaos are different

royal moon
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does anyone know if there is an external app or something that you can have that keeps track of all the completions, like the admin chambers?

sleek robin
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OOF

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Just got only +8 max health from hearts

wary charm
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Do i go hammer or zeus boon

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Hammer obviously right?

sleek robin
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Idk

royal moon
sleek robin
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Depends

wary charm
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Alright i went hammer

royal moon
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at least personally i would because its something specific to the weapon

sleek robin
wary charm
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Got explosive return

rustic vale
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Depends on which weapon and which hammer it is

sleek robin
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Nice

wary charm
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That guy said its the best one for zeus shield

rustic vale
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Yeah

sleek robin
rustic vale
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It is

sleek robin
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Indeed

rustic vale
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but if it was like second hammer on sword I might just skip it

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Since sword has 4 hammers that harm you

stone rune
sleek robin
rustic vale
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zeus on zeus it’d be fine

sleek robin
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To ?

rustic vale
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I was just explaining why you might not always take second hammer

sleek robin
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Yea

rustic vale
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Or if you see a chaos gate

sleek robin
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But if i didn’t got static or double strike i would go for zoos instead of hammer

wary charm
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zeus call skys vengeance or lightning atack

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thunder

rustic vale
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you’d take chaos because you can see hammer again and are practically guaranteed too

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Zeus call

wary charm
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Ok

sleek robin
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Hmm

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You have no attacks ?

rustic vale
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Shields want +% attack or ares if you’re building ME

sleek robin
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I would personally go for aphro

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Open smair

rustic vale
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preferably here it’d be aphro because big +%, weak, and it opens smouldering air

sleek robin
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Indeed

latent moon
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@stone rune for first hestia hammer, hazard or ricochet fire lmao

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ik hazard is good for heat but what about normal speed

rustic vale
sleek robin
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I always get an attack on zoos shield zoos build

stone rune
latent moon
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third option is delta lol

stone rune
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i think i'd take ricochet?

latent moon
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fair enough

stone rune
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hazard is nice too

sleek robin
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What does it do

stone rune
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i just don't like the drop time and ricochet is amazing for room clear as well

sleek robin
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Well on hestia it would be rly nice even tho not the best

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Cuz it kills 2 foes at once with a charged shot

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If near

wary charm
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I GOT SPLITING BOLT

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FINALLY

sleek robin
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Nice

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Where are you rn

wary charm
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elisium

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I also got assistance fire

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10 extra damage every hit

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So good

sleek robin
stone rune
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seeking fire

sleek robin
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Ooh

stone rune
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wait

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isn't this zeus

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yeah idk

latent moon
stone rune
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what's in the well

latent moon
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nothing good

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Purse

stone rune
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damn can't even purse

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that's tricky

latent moon
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MOM POM

stone rune
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what's that atk at?

latent moon
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66

stone rune
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oh tbh i'd sell and shackle that's not meeting breakpoints

latent moon
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fun

sleek robin
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Jazz

stone rune
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well

latent moon
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+0 gold 😎

stone rune
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you're not meeting them anyways

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so lol

sleek robin
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Doubble strike with better rarity or static discharge common

latent moon
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jolted

stone rune
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jotled

sleek robin
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Even if it’s purple

stone rune
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double stsrike rarity isn't that important because it's bugged to be super high regardless

sleek robin
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I see

sleek robin
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D*

stone rune
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discharge

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special pom falls off rlly fast jolted poms are really good

sleek robin
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I see

latent moon
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common jolted needs a lot of poms lol

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granted it has good pom scaling, but still

sleek robin
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What would you do

empty swallow
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Poseidon 61.16% (74 votes)
Zeus 38.84% (47 votes)

sleek robin
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Tisiphone is the youngest right ?

latent moon
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bruh i got tiny vermined again

sleek robin
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Or got hit in no hit run

stone rune
sleek robin
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The traduction didn’t help

sleek robin
stone rune
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like

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dead kinda

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empty

sleek robin
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I tought it was because she was young

sleek robin
stone rune
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she's like a dead body

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withered corpse

sleek robin
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She is a chtonic god

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So not dead

stone rune
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that's not what she is

sleek robin
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U sure

stone rune
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but that's what her body resembles

sleek robin
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Ooh

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Well yea

latent moon
sleek robin
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I see

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Can you get smair before getting a call

latent moon
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no

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you need a call to get offered smair

sleek robin
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Can u get him with like dio call ?

stone rune
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old meta would have been even more broken lol

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back when dad call was 25%

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ye olden days

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only fables in my mind

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because i was not htere

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thank god for that

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too much eris

latent moon
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so like aphrodite atk, zeus special, and dio call will open smair

sleek robin
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I see tu

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Y*

wary charm
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Killed hades for the second time

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On a chaos portal for beowulf troll run

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I cant believe this

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When i actually try to make good builds like zeus with splitting bolt i die

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and i do a troll run and win

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250 darkness for a fish damn

wary charm
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Killed hades for the third time in a foll

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Roll

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Shield is ridiculously broken

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even the base one

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I got charged shot and hades basically didnt do anything

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my ares atack was doing 250 damage

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and my shot was doing 250 too

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Basically 500 damage a shot

mint coral
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Charged shot moment

wary charm
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its so broken bro

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i thought it sucked before actually trying it

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But its ridiculously broken

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It even pierces shields like wtf

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6 more until persephone actually likes me

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crazy how im doing all this while i didnt even buy the game

stone rune
latent moon
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granted it could be like steam library sharing

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but also yeah the immediate assumption is pirating lmao

wary charm
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ye exCtly

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My friend has like 122 games

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I had to wait for him to finish persona 3 portable before he let me play btw

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He has 90 hours ingame

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i use his library when hes not online

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he never finished hades cause he thinks the game is mid

latent moon
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tbf some people dont like roguelikes

wary charm
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he finished dead cells twice

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And he has like 240 hours on risk of rain

latent moon
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oh lmao nvm

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not his taste i suppose

wary charm
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Ye ig

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He told me i dont need to kill hades 10 times to actually finish the game

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But im playing until i unlock every hidden aspect and persephone in the house

latent moon
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credits, steam achievements, a single clear

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i guess

wary charm
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Nah steam achivements is too much

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actually let me see

rustic vale
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Steam achievements aren’t much for Hades

latent moon
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hades steam achievements aren't that difficult, mainly just time consuming

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maxing all keepsakes can take a while

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so does max bonds with every character

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if that is an achievement, idr

wary charm
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completinh elisium with extreme measures is crazy

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i have dificult with it on normal

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Imagine with the bomb launcher and the spinning asterius

latent moon
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it's not too bad once you learn it tbh

wary charm
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Also what are the skelly prizes?

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Never got one

latent moon
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on the bottom of the courtyard, right before where you exit

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i'm pretty sure that interaction unlocks once you get a clear and unlock heat? i'm not entirely sure tho

wary charm
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i want to do the music and muse achivement

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but it takes so long

latent moon
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i didn't know the prizes were a thing until i accidentally interacted with the prizes before i left the courtyard lol

wary charm
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i still dont know where that is

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I dont know whats a courtyard

latent moon
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where the weapons and skelly are

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that's called the courtyard

wary charm
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how do i get to the epilogue

latent moon
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max bond with 6/9 gods, demeter just has to go up to the locked heart

wary charm
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damn thats hard

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I didnt even gift aphrodite yet

latent moon
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just play the game more lol

wary charm
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and the wine god

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I have 20 hours on the game

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What do you mean play more

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In playing since i came back from school

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And its 21:25

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15*

latent moon
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play the game, get more clears, progress story, gift more, etc

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the only way you're gonna get any progress towards anything in the game is to just play more anyways

wary charm
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The only characters i care about are orpheus and megaera

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Thats the problem

latent moon
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well that's a you problem lmao

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if you want max bonds, then gift other people

wary charm
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exactly

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i want beowulf shield

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I have 6 titan blood

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i bought all shield aspects and used 2 blood to evolve zeus shield

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That counts to 5

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i already have guan yu ready to be unlocked

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Do i have to unlock guan yu to get the others?

latent moon
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it's dialogue rng

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you're not guaranteed to get it once you get the reqs

latent moon
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well

wary charm
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its cause i got guan yu first try

latent moon
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you need to like have it revealed, but you dont need to spend titan blood

wary charm
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But i found 5 chaos portals and all he spoke about were olimpian gods

latent moon
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yeah he's not guaranteed to talk about the hidden aspect

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there's either more important dialogue with higher priority or just didn't get the rng

wary charm
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Also if you pirate a game most of them dont even save your progress

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so theres no way to pirate hades

latent moon
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also i might be wrong on this, but he only gives the revealing line the first time you talk with him?

wary charm
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only if you finish the entire game in a day

wary charm
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They only speak for the first time ig

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The rest is straight to the optiond

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Options

latent moon
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that's also true

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so that would make sense lol

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a common strategy for other hidden aspects is to take their keepsake, get their boon in chamber 1, and die after picking up the boon lol

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unfortunately you cant do that for beowulf and a few others

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but for future reference that is something you can do

wary charm
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There should be an achivement where you have to beat hades with bo health upgrades night mirror upgrades or anything related to making you stronger tbh

latent moon
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that's been done before

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it isn't an achievement because the devs wanted the achievements to be easy lol

wary charm
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in fresh saves yes

latent moon
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fresh file has been done, so has boonless, so has mirrorless, and also boonless mirrorless together

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and boonless, mirrorless, and fresh file all together

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that last one is modded so that you fight hades in chamber 2

wary charm
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alright i understand damn 💀

latent moon
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lol

stone rune
stone rune
wary charm
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I tried downloading the binding of isaac once

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I left the game and it deleted my ssve

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Save

stone rune
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on you

wary charm
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Then i never pirated again

mint coral
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Is super dad an achievement?

stone rune
stone rune
mint coral
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That would be a fun one to know the stats

stone rune
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i mean

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10 heat em4 kinda free

wary charm
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7 titan blood now and idk what to do with it

latent moon
wary charm
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Imma start killing myself when the run is trash

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i started one and until asfodel the best thing i got was a rare zeus dash

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Im going to get aspect of lucifer

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Looks fun

limber ether
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I can't seem to find it but can I filter speedrun.com by hell mode?

stone rune
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you can filter fresh file by hell mode

limber ether
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how much slower does hell mode make speedrunning?

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I'm trying to work out if I'm really slow or just slightly slow

stone rune
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well

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cp1 is bad

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js1 is bad

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otherwise it doesn’t matter

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idk

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if you get the juice on an aspect like beo cp1 might be fine

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js1 is just annoying and can’t be solved with juice

wary charm
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guys

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what is good for aspect of lucifer

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i saw it decending from the sky into flames

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now i need a build

stone rune
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artemis special

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poseidon dash

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explode the hellfire with dash or atk

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find static discharge from zeus

wary charm
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what if i dont want to explode hellfire with dash or atk

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and instead let it explode from time

calm zenith
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That will take an hour

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But if you want, I guess you could do Zeus special

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When an enemy gets close to the hellfire a bolt will come down and activate it

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It just doesnt synergize well besides that at all

wary charm
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i never explode the atack

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cause i forget to use it

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the laser just does so much damage

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it seems like time loss to explode balls

calm zenith
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Not really

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Laser doesnt do much damage

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Hellfire does

wary charm
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do i take igneus eden 50% faster shot

calm zenith
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Unless you get really specific hammers and boons

wary charm
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and 15 range

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or piercing shot

calm zenith
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Idk I dont use rail much

wary charm
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or triple bomb

calm zenith
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Piercing

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Triple

wary charm
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???

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which one

calm zenith
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Triple is one/the best Lucifer hammer iirc

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It will show you why hellfire is good

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Just spam it out with Aphro special or something

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Anything with % dmg

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Higher is better

wary charm
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alright

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problem is

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i got the thing

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the demeter special

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and its common

calm zenith
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That's fine tbh

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You could sell it

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Inbetween areas

wary charm
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ye for sure

calm zenith
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You'll probably pick up something better in aspodel

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Even use a keepsake if you want

stone rune
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take arty into aspho

calm zenith
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What attack do you have

wary charm
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zeus

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i got it cause i forgot to change zeus acessory

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keepsake

calm zenith
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Where are you?

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Sounds like elysium

wary charm
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asfodel

calm zenith
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Okay

wary charm
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just killed the girl

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megare

calm zenith
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Take Artemis into Elysium

wary charm
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what keepsake to i equip

calm zenith
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Arrowhead

wary charm
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to asfodel?

calm zenith
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Yes

wary charm
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im at asfodel rn

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ok

calm zenith
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Are you inbetween?

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Right before Asphodel?

wary charm
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yes

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i sold demeter special

calm zenith
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Good

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Even a common Artemis special will be much better

wary charm
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i have epic pression points btw

calm zenith
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Not super important but a nice boost

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Mark is good

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Put poms on that until it adds up to around 100%

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You can probably get it this run

wary charm
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not mark

calm zenith
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But it's not super important either because you arent doing a bow like run

wary charm
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its the 4% all hits crit chance

calm zenith
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I know

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I'm saying mark is more important

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Pressure points is good though

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For your attack even

wary charm
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do i go for hermes or artemis

calm zenith
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Artemis

wary charm
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ok

calm zenith
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Hermes will appear again most likely and you should see if Eurydice is there anyway

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Hermes boons have super low rarity

wary charm
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didnt get special

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i got heroic basic atack

calm zenith
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Thats fine

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Okay

wary charm
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and assistance fire

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the little arrows

calm zenith
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Yeah thats solid for your build

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You might get her on a boss or shop

wary charm
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assistance fire or the atack?

calm zenith
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Idk honestly

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Fire

wary charm
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ok

calm zenith
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You have Zeus attack which is better

wary charm
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yes

calm zenith
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You will get lots of little arrows

wary charm
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got a poseidon and zeus

calm zenith
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The issue is you might get q legendary now

wary charm
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both boss rooms

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zeus right?

calm zenith
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Yeah

wary charm
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ok

calm zenith
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Take static discharge

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The status effect

wary charm
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what if he gives me splitting bolt

calm zenith
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Take it

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It does a lot of dmg on rail

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Normal Zeus chain lightning does like 13 damage common

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Splitting bolt is 40

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Can even boost it. It applies Jolted.

wary charm
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ok

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got it rare

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thanks for helping btw

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this chat helps me alot to do thing

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in general

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got to elisium

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do i take another keepsake now?

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nah i dont have a special yet

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i just noticed

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i didnt get my revives back

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my god i lost this run

royal widget
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you might find a ! door

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jsut try

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take skelly keepsake jus in case

calm zenith
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Yeah take skelly. Maybe you will yet Patroclus.

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Its okay to run out of dds in Elysium

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It isnt guaranteed ofc

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But you also may be able to buy a DD

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Chaos offers them as legendaries

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Athena offers them

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But it only works on death defiance if you are missing 1

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Or more ofc

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It just gives a bonus defiance with stubborn defiance iirc

wary charm
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I DID DIE

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but i won a run after

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i just got beowulf btw

calm zenith
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Nice

wary charm
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whats a good build for it

calm zenith
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Flood shot and deadly strike, aim for Mirage Shot

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It just Trippy shot and pom it lots

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Both are glitched to do bonus dmg

wary charm
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flood shoot and trippy shot?

calm zenith
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All casts become aoe flares on Beowulf

wary charm
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how do i get two casts

calm zenith
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Either or

wary charm
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which is better tho

calm zenith
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With trippy you dont need a duo

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Both are really good

wary charm
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hm

calm zenith
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Just do flood

wary charm
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alright

calm zenith
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There is also a trick you can do for extra dmg

wary charm
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so i start with poseidon keepsake?

calm zenith
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Yeah

wary charm
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and whats the combination for mirage shot

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and whats deadly strike

calm zenith
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Only activate your cast while in a bull rush

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Artemis attack

wary charm
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my game is in portuguese

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i dont know how to change the language

calm zenith
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You just need flood shot and Artemis attack

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Okay

wary charm
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u know how to?

calm zenith
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Not atm. Settings probably.

wary charm
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ok

calm zenith
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When you only cast during a bull rush, you can get double the boosted bull rushes

wary charm
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i dont understand

calm zenith
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What happens is you charge up attack, then release, hit cast when you are at enemies, then your next charge will be boosted.

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Beowulf boosts your attack when you load a cast

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There is a glitch where you can boost your attack twice as often

wary charm
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what do i pome with beowul

calm zenith
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Cast

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Artemis attack doesnt need any really

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Then Mark maybe

wary charm
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ok

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mark of what

calm zenith
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And get the charged shot hammer

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Hunters mark

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Artemis critical boon

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When an enemy has the mark they take more crits

wary charm
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ok

calm zenith
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Do you know what the charged shot hammer is?

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It makes your charged attack ranged

wary charm
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ofc i know

calm zenith
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Okay

wary charm
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finished the game 3 times in a row cause of it

calm zenith
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That's the best hammer yeah

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Second best is the one that does dmg to armor

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There isnt really a good 2nd best

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Anything will work but armor is usually higher than health

wary charm
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got a hammer

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now i pray its cs

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it is

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this shield is broken bro damn

calm zenith
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Nice

wary charm
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what do i get for special?

stone rune
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nothing

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you press special 0 times

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maybe 1 or 2 in tart

calm zenith
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Yeah just aim for attack dmg, cast dmg, bonus casts/mirage shot

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You can buy cast dmg and casts from the well

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Basically always worth it

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Same with attack jerky

stone rune
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don't buy jerky if it brings you under 150

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it's a relatively minimal boost given you have +100% from empowered rush

wary charm
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got mirage shot

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does it give me 6 casts basically?

stone rune
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well no

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because you can't split like you can with 6 casts

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but it gives you double damage

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multiplicative

wary charm
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crazy

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got hunters mark

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rare

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what do i use for elisium

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keepsake

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imma use cerberus necklace

wary charm
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bought a stone

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bought a gift got another stone

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5 casts

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i dont know what hidden aspect to get now

#

gilgamesh arthur or guan yu

royal widget
#

gy

wary charm
#

ok

stone rune
#

guan yu

wary charm
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thanks

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the m1 is slow goddamn

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alright

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now tell me builds

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like i always ask for

royal widget
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charged skewer

wary charm
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hammer?

royal widget
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yep

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free win

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with aph atk

stone rune
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special?

wary charm
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alr

royal widget
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same thing

stone rune
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aph atk = aph special

#

real

wary charm
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do i get cast dash or atack from dionise

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special atack

stone rune
#

uh

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i guess cast

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you don't want any of those

wary charm
#

ok

wary charm
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whats charged skewer in portuguese?

short thunder
#

bois its been 100%

wary charm
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is it 200% base damage

latent moon
#

uh

#

kinda

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also minimum range reduced

stone rune
#

yeah

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200% increased base damage

wary charm
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tensioned lance

#

alright ok

stone rune
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lmfao

#

well

wary charm
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its called lanca tensionada for me

stone rune
#

lance in a lot of romance languages means spear in english

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lanza in spanish i think

wary charm
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its lança

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lance in portuguese

stone rune
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i only vaguely speak spanish

wary charm
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i got zeus epic atack on gy btw

stone rune
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it was technically my first language

wary charm
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why is charged skewer so good exactly?

#

and whats the best special for it

stone rune
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NEW UNMODDED WORLD RECORD LOL

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LOL

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LOL

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504

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DRK

wary charm
#

cool

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now answer my question

stone rune
#

@latent moon did you see this

stone rune
#

did you see it

#

this is so funny

wary charm
#

ye what about the special

stone rune
stone rune
wary charm
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not that bro

#

what special boon is good for it

stone rune
#

aphrodite

#

poseidon

#

both good

wary charm
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ok

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and atack?

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dash

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everything

stone rune
#

attack whatever

#

dash whatever

wary charm
#

ok

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so i only use flying serpent and special atack?

latent moon
wary charm
#

guan yu seems really unfun to play tbh

stone rune
stone rune
wary charm
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then how am i supposed to heal

#

i have no hp bro

stone rune
#

uh

#

don't

stone rune
wary charm
#

so i just accept death?

latent moon
#

just don't get hit lol

wary charm
#

im not good at dodging

stone rune
#

idk

#

get hit less

#

you have 3 death defiances

wary charm
#

and a tooth

#

guan yu sucks tbh

flat finch
#

tried to do a boonless run and ended with 1 due to bad sack luck in styx :(

#

guan yu is based

wary charm
#

no wonder why every tier list i see its either the lowest tier or even below with its own tier

flat finch
#

but i can understand why you dont like it

stone rune
flat finch
#

its not particularly forgiving

stone rune
#

guan yu is a great aspect

#

are you looking at like tier lists from people who suck or something

wary charm
#

i dont know

#

mostly speedrunners

latent moon
wary charm
#

and a dude who has like 467k darkness

latent moon
#

who's this dude

flat finch
#

holy moly i opened the game and forgot i set the unseen ones as the house of hades music and i got jumpscared

#

gave me a massive jolt

#

@stone rune got a question since you seem to be very knowledgable

#

whats the best sword aspect

stone rune
#

nemesis

flat finch
#

i see

#

thats my favorite one so thats nice

latent moon
#

a lot of people also like arthur as well

flat finch
#

i feel like arthur is good too

#

ye

stone rune
#

and they're all wrong

latent moon
#

lmao

flat finch
#

poseidon seems fun but not as good

stone rune
#

poseidon is not a sword

flat finch
#

oh wait

stone rune
#

it's fake

latent moon
#

it's not bad, but also achilles exists

flat finch
#

you actually made me think i was wrong

#

wow

latent moon
# flat finch oh wait

no it is a sword, it's just the aspect you choose when you dont want to play sword

flat finch
#

you made me think i was mistaking it for a spear

#

gg

latent moon
#

sword without playing sword

flat finch
#

its cool tho

wary charm
#

i dont like guan yu

#

speedruners and no hitters love it

#

and im not any of these

stone rune
#

no

#

most people who know the build are fond of it

flat finch
#

look you dont have to like it thats fine

#

at least you tried it

#

every weapon in this game can kill people

#

also eris seems like the most lame aspect i still havent even tried it am i sleeping on it or is it good once upgraded?

stone rune
#

eris is very good

flat finch
#

ive never heard anyone talk about it