yeah i know
#h1-discussion
rose trench
ah but whatever it's not a big deal anyways
jovial forum
anyway
ill see you soon
rose trench
yeah cool
jovial forum
do you ever get something from the hammer and then instantly regret it 😐
worst choice of my life
rose trench
mostly only when I test things I don't know about
jovial forum
gahh
rustic vale
I bet I can guess which hammer it is based off the weapon
rose trench
gun
rustic vale
Triple shot is one of the best bow hammers
mint coral
bow is a melee aspect anyways
high island
Triple Shot and Twin Shot literally the best bow hammers. 
mint coral
tho at least if you dont like triple just keep shooting from afar
treat the other 2 arrows as a bonus
but also triple dmg good
rose trench
time to actually test and see how good this build is anyways
gotta level up my zeus keepsake anyways
forgot to switch out to family favorite lol but uh I think I got lucky with a chaos boon so I'm not quitting this run
also hey second boon was an epic static discharge nice
wintry moat
is there a speedrun leaderboard for some of the more OP / popular duo boons / builds?
I wanna see the fastest merciful end run ever
rustic vale
Well
mint coral
sort by aspect and look at dem fists wr ig
rustic vale
is it even ME
P sure
It’d either be ME or some crit build/smair and I’m leaning towards ME
rose trench
oh jeez I now have 2 chaos boons that both increase my special damage
stone rune
unm nem is ME
jovial forum
oh jeez I now have 2 chaos boons that both increase my special damage
i never use special :(
stone rune
well it depends what weapon/aspect you're on
mint coral
at least on modded leaderboard is crit nem lmao
rustic vale
i never use special :(
It really depends on the aspect you use for whether special is used
mint coral
by :croven:
rustic vale
by :croven:
Every aspect is just hera but kind of different
stone rune
every aspect is hestia but worse
raw herald
Beo
stone rune
=worse hestia
raw herald
My beo has been quicker than hesty for a year and a half
stone rune
well that's just strange
jovial forum
is it normal to get tired after like 8 runs in a row
stone rune
yeah
stone rune
play again tomorrow
jovial forum
what the hell
mint coral
endurance through the pain 
rose trench
ok now my special should deal about 4x the base damage
latent moon
is it normal to get tired after like 8 runs in a row
It's almost as if you've been playing the same game for like a couple hours straight
Get up and stretch or get food or something idk or just stop playing until tomorrow
stone rune
i remember one night
i ground hestia for like 6 hours
and by the end my rotation was noticeably worse
dont think i made it out of tart either
rose trench
i ground hestia for like 6 hours
you're the first person who says grind in past tense terms of in a video game as ground lol (not a bad thing btw)
jovial forum
endurance through the pain <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
yeah!
mint coral
wait no
stone rune
jovial forum
mint coral
commit rest 🔫
high island
yeah modded is crit
I suspect Merciful End Nemesis will have some difficulty keeping up with crits + Hunter's Mark in ideal conditions. And Heart Rend means you'll benefit even more from any Strike/Lunge and Well items.
latent moon
you're the first person who says grind in past tense terms of in a video game as...
Me and the boys ground a bunch of resources in Minecraft the other day
jovial forum
zagreus never sleeps! i wont!
high island
Although it's probably still close.
jovial forum
THAN PLEASE OCME SEE ME SO I CAN STOP!!
rose trench
zagreus never sleeps! i wont!
why does he have a bed though
latent moon
He's slept like once or twice hasn't he
jovial forum
cus hes a prince and he can do what he wants
stone rune
I suspect Merciful End Nemesis will have some difficulty keeping up with crits +...
it had lightning flourish
cursed build
blade dash too
raw herald
Modded wr rn is borderline fds
high island
In the course of the game
Which spans over decades.
stone rune
calm zenith
Blade dash is blessed
high island
Oh yeah that one.
stone rune
red rd
high island
Red Delivery gud.
calm zenith
I will always love it because my first win was gilga blade dash
rose trench
damn ended up using 2 death defiance on lernie, kinda sloppy ngl
calm zenith
I think I got an epic RD
high island
No Lady Aphrodite boons bad.
That's why it's slower than Hera. Croven should have started Eternal Rose.
jovial forum
:3
raw herald
Thunder flourish lowkey insane value here
stone rune
needs more storm lightning
rose trench
Hopefully I find that one depressed guy sitting alone for a death defiance replenish
mint coral
patty will never appear when you need him
stone rune
patty will never appear when you need him
tell that to that time i had a 124 tart exit to losing all my dds in lernie to patty refill
to 630
high island
High rarity Thunder Flourish is good on sword anyway, just doesn't open up Heart Rend or Merciful End, so you don't see it as much.
stone rune
needs more divine strike
jovial forum
patty will never appear when you need him
wait who
OH
fr
( why do you call him that )
mint coral
name too large
jovial forum
patroclus ??
calm zenith
That's his name
toxic trellis
Only Achilles would call him Patty
calm zenith
Its 9 letters
calm zenith
Patty cake
hexed smelt
Nicknames can be for fun too y'know
stone rune
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1028112977100017666/1084998168342704228/image.png https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1028112977100017666/1084998091347869876/image.png
stone rune
common nickname moment
mint coral
i also still dont remember the name of the dude who hangs out with
jovial forum
i also still dont remember the name of the dude who hangs out with <:bouldy:5233...
sisyphus
hes a bastard
mint coral
like i know it but im 100% misspelling it
stone rune
hes a bastard
shackle:
jovial forum
he deserves it!
toxic trellis
calm zenith
Why he has the best boons, best gifts, best summon
stone rune
what
jovial forum
also ok so
stone rune
he deserves it!
he literally gives it to you
jovial forum
i know
anyway
why does bouldy have 2 eyes from the hands of sisyphus
but
what the hell is his nose
stone rune
used to be bowling ball for guy with two fingers
mint coral
dont question
calm zenith
It's his thumb
I never considered him molding bouldy like clay
Is bouldy a liquid?
mint coral
welcome to the house of hades!
jovial forum
hes so cute
stone rune
Is bouldy a liquid?
i mean like
the grand canyon or whatever was from water
sisyphus has been doing that thing for a good few thousand years probably
mint coral
also what rarity is rare crop
rose trench
tidal dash, demeter special, zeus attack, pressure points, mark and support fire
stone rune
oh you're not hitting anything
rose trench
oh you're not hitting anything
also a few hermes boons
mint coral
rare crop cant hit those
stone rune
is this eris
rose trench
nah demeter
mint coral
i love some soup
mint coral
im bad with it but it should be fine?
rose trench
is tdash fine on fists
Well I got rupture on it so uh yeah I guess it worked out
mint coral
things come to worst you still can just dash only it
stone rune
dont you push your enemies away
jovial forum
giggles
stone rune
dear god that's some fds
mint coral
shades are fun
high island
should I take it
Take it for prophecy, sure.
stone rune
fun fact
epic rare crop actually has priority to appear but only if you have only 1 boon
high island
is tdash fine on fists
Ehhh... It prevents you from landing Dash-Uppers unless you dash them into a wall pretty much.
stone rune
have you gotten to c30
jovial forum
what
stone rune
chamber 30
high island
It's still Tidal Dash, though.
jovial forum
??
radiant vale
i love cows
stone rune
yeah
stone rune
that should be the earliest place where you have a chance of seeing than
jovial forum
hes just NOT SHOWING UP
stone rune
if you've seen alecto and tis
jovial forum
HOW DO I GET THEM
stone rune
rng
stone rune
spaghettios
jovial forum
id rather die
stone rune
something wrong with you
rose trench
oh btw how is swift strike calculated in game
this feels way faster than just a simple 30% attack speed increase
mint coral
i dont take swift strike enough to know
rose trench
it feels like a machine gun but for the arms rn lol
calm zenith
I had a swift flourish hades explosive skewer run the other day
Thing shot faster than a bow
calm zenith
So I just set up my weak with spin, sets up the debuff and heart rend
rustic vale
this feels way faster than just a simple 30% attack speed increase
It speeds up both the animation speed and the intervals inbetween attacks
rose trench
cold fusion seems interesting perhaps I should take it
rose trench
It speeds up both the animation speed and the intervals inbetween attacks
oh so thats why
calm zenith
Cold fusion isnt good usually
rose trench
so its a 1.3*1.3 times attack speed buff in reality
rustic vale
cold fusion seems interesting perhaps I should take it
Mainly useful when your source of lightning isn’t something you’re hitting with often
mint coral
cold fusion more like em3 begone
calm zenith
Yeah
rustic vale
so its a 1.3*1.3 times attack speed buff in reality
I think it’s more of a 1.3/.7
rose trench
Mainly useful when your source of lightning isn’t something you’re hitting with ...
right.....
rustic vale
But I may have it wrong
rose trench
I guess I'll pass
mint coral
prophecy always a nice thing
rustic vale
So like Revenge boons
Or zap dash or lightning reflexes
latent moon
Cold fusion is largely useless when lightning tends to be your main source of damage most of the time
high island
so its a 1.3*1.3 times attack speed buff in reality
No, it's 1.3x precisely.
calm zenith
Otherwise it's still just ok
rose trench
But I may have it wrong
k either way its still a lot faster than the number would seem to suggest
rustic vale
No, it's 1.3x precisely. <:tizomg:456913427588317184>
The heroic swift strike zag sword w/ flurry slash clip seems to be counter to that
stone rune
flurry doesn't have a delay
rustic vale
There is no way that is only 40% more
stone rune
There is no way that is only 40% more
wasn't it level 10
calm zenith
Tbh my favorite fists now might be Talos
rustic vale
wasn't it level 10
rustic vale
stone rune
idk if this would
but if you still have codex mod installed
see if pom makes it +1
but also
40% is a big number
high island
There is no way that is only 40% more
Perhaps you're underestimating 40% attack speed.
rustic vale
Perhaps you're underestimating 40% attack speed. <:tizomg:456913427588317184>
I’ve used flurry with zag and common swift strike
The jump can’t be that much and only a difference of 30%
stone rune
yes it can
calm zenith
It can and is
stone rune
300% difference there
jovial forum
every moment that im not playing hades i am wishing i was playing hades
" take a break " and do WHAT
high island
Well, just don't put the game over your own health.
raw herald
I thought swift flourish reduces attack cooldown instead of granting attack speed
jovial forum
Well, just don't put the game over your own health. <:dusa:522248771409543188>
HADES IS MY HEALTH
stone rune
doesnt swift strike make standing bow charge faster
jovial forum
if my boyfriend doesnt propose with a laurel im not marrying him
rose trench
https://imgur.com/a/bk8r721 I guess this is the end for me
I learnt a lot of things this run though so I'm still very happy with it
rustic vale
Not necessarily
Just reduce his hp to 0 while keeping yours above 0
You have infinite time so you can play it safe
rose trench
yeah, too late for that now
mint coral
doesnt swift strike make standing bow charge faster
ye
rose trench
just switched to family favorite, probably gonna try this same build again
was a lot of fun
high island
just switched to family favorite, probably gonna try this same build again
Most important is swapping from Olympian Favor to Dark Foresight.
rose trench
Most important is swapping from Olympian Favor to Dark Foresight.
wait why
high island
Dark Foresight is broken in all the good ways.
rose trench
welp, better respec
I've got 35 keys anyways
I start off with one less fated persuasion but thats not a big deal
rustic vale
dark foresight maxed is way more value then one more roll imo
rose trench
yep well it is maxed out
high island
I start off with one less fated persuasion but thats not a big deal
You could literally just have Chthonic Vitatility, DDs, Greater Reflex, and Dark Foresight maxed and nothing else and it'd be stronger than your previous mirror.
rose trench
You could literally just have Chthonic Vitatility, DDs, Greater Reflex, and Dark...
oh nah i maxed out all the purple upgrades before I did rolls
high island
I am just saying that just those three with Dark Foresight maxed is already stronger than your previous config.
rose trench
also dark foresight family favorite and god's legacy
rose trench
I am just saying that just those three with Dark Foresight maxed is already stro...
yep
Rerolls can be bought back easily enough anyways
high island
Usually Gods' Pride is a bit better than Gods' Legacy.
rose trench
just beat hades a bajillion times on the same heat
high island
You can find two great mirror guides pinned in #h1-for-new-players btw.
rose trench
k
stone rune
ok
what the hell is with these unarmored witches
did i turn on js3 or soemthing
omg
numbskulls
did i do something wrong to be punished with this
latent moon
Yes
jovial forum
numbskulls
i love numbskulls :(
stone rune
i love numbskulls :(
i love armored numbskulls that are all spawned when you enter the room and are pleasantly clumped together for my flaring pleasure
jovial forum
crunchy noises
stone rune
i do not like individually spawning numbskulls in giant rooms which each take an attack to kill
stone rune
i do not like individually spawning numbskulls in giant rooms which each take an...
enter c12: 122
enter c13: 156
elder quarry
I just killed ||hades || without taking any damage. Only lost acorn.
Hera bow so op
I also had smoldering air with Zeus aid
Wait do I even need spoiler tags here
rustic vale
Wait do I even need spoiler tags here
Nope
latent moon
hera moment
elder quarry
I literally only have runs completed with bow
I’m up to heat 8
How do I unlock the fourth aspect on bow btw?
mint coral
How do I unlock the fourth aspect on bow btw?
check #h1-story-discussion pins
elder quarry
Thanks
dusky topaz
Hello everyone- does anyone know of hades roleplay servers, or if that’s done in this server at all? Thanks (:
native blade
Hello everyone- does anyone know of hades roleplay servers, or if that’s done in...
I don’t think there is one actually, you could make one.
radiant vale
using arthuh sword is annoying fr
the 200 damage is good but like
you're so damn slow
dusky topaz
I don’t think there is one actually, you could make one.
Omg… maybe I will
NOOOOO I didn’t know 😭
I got told to watch my language
dusky topaz
using arthuh sword is annoying fr
What I tried to say is, I like the aspect on the sword that dislodges cast from foes, that is NASTY with Artemis’ true shot. So nasty
native blade
What I tried to say is, I like the aspect on the sword that dislodges cast from ...
I love Poseidon Aspect users, there's not alot of them.
I wanna see them play some time.
dusky topaz
Brooo I should stream, that’s the only aspect I use with Stygius
Aspect of Chiron is my go to for Coronacht
I’m a Zagreus Aspect for Varatha, Aegis and Exagryph. I don’t like any of the others
radiant vale
What I tried to say is, I like the aspect on the sword that dislodges cast from ...
I never tried it.
native blade
I’m a Zagreus Aspect for Varatha, Aegis and Exagryph. I don’t like any of the ot...
Damn, based.
stone rune
I’m a Zagreus Aspect for Varatha, Aegis and Exagryph. I don’t like any of the ot...
HESTIA💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪
radiant vale
hest is good, but
i don't care
i dont want to reload my gun for big damage
i just wanna hold for fun
rose trench
well i guess the game decided i should have 4 random god's boons all in tartarus
lets see what cursed monstrosity it creates
native blade
lets see what cursed monstrosity it creates
Nice.
void vigil
this kind of message is not appropriate for the server according to rule 2, please avoid mentioning this kind of thing in the future and be more mindful of your messages
radiant vale
this kind of message is not appropriate for the server according to rule 2, plea...
aww
latent moon
I love Poseidon Aspect users, there's not alot of them.
pos aspect is when you want to play sword without using sword lmao
native blade
pos aspect is when you want to play sword without using sword lmao
Lel.
slim geyser
I love Poseidon Aspect users, there's not alot of them.
eye emoji
sudden mauve
radiant vale
https://tenor.com/view/zagreus-hades-gif-20895332
what was that
bro did the hair swipe
and then it cam beack
god hair
radiant vale
His hair is caked with blood
his hair has no blood in there
in the trailer at least
calm zenith
He constantly falls into a river of blood and never showers. For millions of years.
radiant vale
He constantly falls into a river of blood and never showers. For millions of yea...
maybe it's slightly cleaner blood
also every time he dies
he respawns
but not his filth
calm zenith
Yeah its the Platonic ideal of blood
radiant vale
so he actually gets cleaned before bathed with blood
and then blood just falls off for whatever reason
unrealistic
calm zenith
He should be filthy
Bad game
Plot hole
Hades is supposed to be a roguelite about doing other stuff than just fighting and you can't even shower what is this it's so unrealistic
radiant vale
Hades is supposed to be a roguelite about doing other stuff than just fighting a...
omg ye!1!!!
also should i get gilgameshu on my main
calm zenith
If you like fists sure. It scales better with dash boons. You can do dash boon centric builds. Easiest is tidal dash.
Basically just try to get a rare or epic one and pom it a lot and avoid other boons that dont boost its dmg, so you dont waste poms
Go down the Poseidon boon line and maybe get the Legendary for fun
Get Zeus attack for Sea Storm lol
Dont even need maim. It's a dash boon build.
Upside: hammers dont matter
You should also take less dmg
radiant vale
If you like fists sure. It scales better with dash boons. You can do dash boon c...
nice
finally: is guan y worth it
outer sapphire
finally: is guan y worth it
Worth it only if you max it.
sudden mauve
radiant vale
https://tenor.com/view/zagreus-hades-gif-22678367
unrealistic
it does not look this cool ingame
sudden mauve
true
potent heart
hey everyone!!
brisk trail
hey everyone!!
hiya
potent heart
does anyone else not really pay attention to builds or what works with what etc. and they just sort of pick whatever seems the best/most fun? i play all my games like that and i always wonder if I'm missing out on something by not being more strategic lol
brisk trail
does anyone else not really pay attention to builds or what works with what etc....
are u pre first hades kill or post?
potent heart
post, I've cleared 4 runs so far (30 something ish in total)
I'm mostly asking this just out of curiosity
I'm not having many difficulties with the game YET but the higher heat does frighten me 😅
brisk trail
nice but u do have to learn how to build if u want to do ||high heat||
potent heart
yeah i figured as much hahaha it all just sometimes seems a bit too overwhelming, but maybe if i just take it slow and try stuff out it'll start making more sense
brisk trail
yeah i figured as much hahaha it all just sometimes seems a bit too overwhelming...
yeah
btw fists combine quite well with ice lady
cold stacks go brrrrrr
solar vault
I always try to play most of a game before going online
potent heart
btw fists combine quite well with ice lady
ohh haha ok I'll keep that in mind 😁
actually 2/4 of the runs I've cleared i did so with the fists
which is weird cause they're not really my fave
brisk trail
in my current run i have her on attack and dash with the 10 stack damage thing
potent heart
but so far I've only been picking whichever weapon gives meore darkness+gems hahaha
brisk trail
but so far I've only been picking whichever weapon gives meore darkness+gems hah...
good
potent heart
I always try to play most of a game before going online
yeah that seems the best way to do it honestly, just experience it for yourself without any outside input
brisk trail
i realy wonder how powerful the hidden aspect from the fist is
potent heart
oh yeah, how do I uncover those hidden aspects? is it just through story progression or
solar vault
i realy wonder how powerful the hidden aspect from the fist is
it can be fun but general consensus is it's not great
there's a guide about hidden aspects pinned in story discussion but you'll get there just by plying
potent heart
ohhh okay cool, thanks!
high island
does anyone else not really pay attention to builds or what works with what etc....
Paying attention to builds and picking what's best are basically the same thing.
potent heart
Paying attention to builds and picking what's best are basically the same thing....
hahaha i want to believe that, but I think that sometimes my definition of what's "best" isnt that... objective 😂
high island
Well, that just means there's more to learn still and experiment with.
brisk trail
there is also god mode if ur stuck and want to progress the story (i dont sugest u do though)
i only found out about it after 90+ runs
potent heart
oh yeah I've been playing on it 😅 I love video games but i can't stand super challenging stuff, like when a game just makes me frustrated
so I usually always play games on easy mode, if there is one hahaha
and i mean even with 50% on god mode i still find myself struggling sometimes
so i don't feel like I'm missing out on the suffering 😂
high island
When I started playing back in early access, we were basically inventing the meta as we went. Nowadays is very different. Newer players with guidance from vets can get much stronger builds more consistently than we did back then.
high island
oh yeah I've been playing on it 😅 I love video games but i can't stand super ch...
m the opposite pretty much. I start new games on the highest difficulty a lot of the time lol.
potent heart
m the opposite pretty much. I start new games on the highest difficulty a lot of...
my ex was the same 😂 he played fallout on the highest difficulty, and would get so angry every time he died and i just could not understand the point of that 😅
but hey i mean we all play how we wanna, that's the point of games basically
radiant vale
my ex was the same 😂 he played fallout on the highest difficulty, and would get...
well some people like a challenge
there's a reason some people choose Doom Eternal and some people choose Cookie Clicker
it's preference
potent heart
yeah for sure! as long as no ones bashing others for their choice it's all good
outer sapphire
there's a reason some people choose Doom Eternal and some people choose Cookie C...
Yeah I know. The former wants their fingers intact and the latter doesn't. 😏
potent heart
priorities 😂
radiant vale
Yeah I know. The former wants their fingers intact and the latter doesn't. 😏
Well it's a trade off
Fingers for Brains
or Brains for Fingers
cuz doom eternal is like a blitz strategy game in an incredibly fast shooter
and cookie clicker requires you to set cps records
potent heart
yeah different strokes for different folks
most other games like Hades I'd never even touch, but for some reason this one just pulled me in and now i cannot escape
...no pun intended
😁
radiant vale
...no pun intended
not a pun
hades the game is not hell
escaping is, however, a ZAGREUS REFERENCE
radiant vale
most other games like Hades I'd never even touch, but for some reason this one j...
you should pirate and play Dead Cells
pretty good game too
hades better though
potent heart
yeah I've heard about it
why do you suggest pirating it?
not that I'm opposed to it lol
just wondering
radiant vale
why do you suggest pirating it?
no monye
potent heart
hahaha yeah that is understandable
radiant vale
hahaha yeah that is understandable
lol thanks
similarly
i spent around 7 hours
finding and pirating other games
wait
i should not be saying this in the hades server
potent heart
hahaha yeah idk how other people feel about pirating
i love supporting game devs (as long as they're good lol) but sometimes games are just way too expensive
so I usually just wait for sales
storm vine
Same steam sale just do that to people increase the price of games but have incredible sales
high island
Promoting software piracy violates Discord Community Guidelines and can result in your account getting banned from Discord. 
limber ether
I mean I highly doubt anyone's getting banned for it
but also you don't have to be rich, you just have to not steal lmao
(not saying I don't pirate stuff)
potent heart
Lest I risk actually getting banned I will not comment further on this 🤐😂
high island
Good thing software is the only thing I don’t pirate
That also applies to music piracy and all that, naturally.
rustic vale
raw herald
Yes
raw herald
Flood flare +lots of poms + mirage shot
stone rune
slicing flare
radiant vale
Flood flare +lots of poms + mirage shot
no idea what the hell that is but ok
raw herald
Flood flare is poseidons cast
radiant vale
Flood flare is poseidons cast
oh
stone rune
raw herald
Mirage shot is poseidon Artemis duo
radiant vale
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1H7EOP28oyu6t8KrBEfnrN-dQc6H_ssvAyYz3C1O2JOI/...
finally, jazz not straight up hating on beo for 3 messages straight
raw herald
Alternatively you could go aphrodites cast + snow burst from Beowulf
stone rune
just use hestia
radiant vale
there it is
stone rune
Alternatively you could go aphrodites cast + snow burst from Beowulf
new snurst god
raw herald
You always want loads of poms on your cast since it scales so well with them
radiant vale
You always want loads of poms on your cast since it scales so well with them
okeh
@stone rune you were right beo is slow af
so clunky
radiant vale
i think you're doing it wrong
dash+castcharge?
whenever i charge i gotta stand still for like
3 seconds?
it's annoying af
stone rune
why are you standing still for 3 seconds
radiant vale
why are you standing still for 3 seconds
because I was holding leftclick
to charge
as it said
stone rune
do min charge
radiant vale
do min charge
that requires actual skill
stone rune
no it doesnt
radiant vale
no it doesnt
like minimal skill (that i do not have)
i play on godmode with 70% res 50% of the time
what do you expect
radiant vale
Flood flare is poseidons cast
do i use trippy shot
does that work as well
cuz sheer damage
stone rune
you can easily do more than that
brisk trail
Can i say that my favorite god of all is Ares ?
brisk trail
EXCUSE YOU
rustic falcon
ares is kinda psychopathic
radiant vale
God of Dealing no damage unless you get a duo
god of dealing yes damage actually
doom sucks
blade shot stacking doesn't
stone rune
you need either merciful end or hunting blades
brisk trail
Plus with the good stuff is perfect
radiant vale
Plus with the good stuff is perfect
tbh doom sucks i like bladerift spam only
rustic falcon
aspect of gilgamesh gives a free doom effect with special and dam
brisk trail
aspect of gilgamesh gives a free doom effect with special and dam
exactly
radiant vale
aspect of gilgamesh gives a free doom effect with special and dam
aspect of gilgamesh is also slow
stone rune
it gives a free HL2.5 to your enemies
radiant vale
however the 400 is worth it probably
stone rune
however the 400 is worth it probably
nope
radiant vale
if you so cowardly run in, dash strikes, and run out
raw herald
i did 400 per trippy once
That’s literally like 3 poms on Beowulf lol
radiant vale
making a slow weapon somehow slower than it should be
stone rune
dash strikes dealing 20 damage each:
radiant vale
dash strikes dealing 20 damage each:
funny!1!!
rustic falcon
is it just me or does gilga dash feel like they have shorter range
rustic falcon
dam
radiant vale
is it just me or does gilga dash feel like they have shorter range
it is just you... and everyone else, and the game too
high island
Gilgamesh is easily a contender for worst aspect in the game. 
radiant vale
hi nyanyaa
radiant vale
Gilgamesh is easily a contender for worst aspect in the game. <:tizozzz:45691342...
whaat about guanyu
rustic falcon
Gilgamesh is easily a contender for worst aspect in the game. <:tizozzz:45691342...
sad
radiant vale
severely underdeserved for that guy
stone rune
guan yu is good
rustic falcon
whaat about guanyu
I don't mind max level guanyu it is really nice
radiant vale
guan yu is good
ok but like it's underwhelming
stone rune
it does good damage with good aoe
rustic falcon
level 1 guanyu tho now that sucks
rustic falcon
shield is fun.
radiant vale
shield is fun.
hey d'you suppose melinoe can use zag aspects in the next game
rustic falcon
I am not sure i am not even sure if the setting is in hell cuz the environment looked different
I mean they can come back for sure
and they can add more stuff
radiant vale
I am not sure i am not even sure if the setting is in hell cuz the environment l...
they come from the same household
pretty sure they've seen each other at some point
idk man
maybe melinoe will go "i see my broda" and then some aspect reveals itself
rustic vale
whaat about guanyu
Not nearly
stone rune
rama special shoots 3 arrows right
stone rune
3
if you hit an enemy with 1 or 2 arrows with dc2 does it still apply shared suffering
latent moon
Yeah I think so
stone rune
i wonder
if it shot 2 arrows
could you make a case for taking dc2 in speedruns to do fiery + shared suffering damage
no that's silly
manic vine
Sitting here on this arty boon, doing a Merciful End run with Fists, Demeter aspect.
Do I get True Shot, Clean Kill or Support Fire?
stone rune
support fire
manic vine
Was thinking that
manic vine
Kinetic Launcher or Explosive Upper?
stone rune
first or second hammer
manic vine
2nd
stone rune
what was your first
manic vine
Breaching Cross
royal widget
Gilgamesh is easily a contender for worst aspect in the game. <:tizozzz:45691342...
zag sword
stone rune
Breaching Cross
both are good
i'd take kinetic launcher because it's fun, explosive upper might be better
let me see
i think either works
yeah they're about the same
manic vine
So it's down to which is more fun
manic vine
I think this is what settles it
royal widget
if i have zeus attack creating 10 damage on hit, and take cyclops jerky, does the lightning damage also get buffed by it?
manic vine
Do specials apply to the damage area in Explosive Upper?
stone rune
Do specials apply to the damage area in Explosive Upper?
wdym
manic vine
The boons
stone rune
well yeah
latent moon
Do I get True Shot, Clean Kill or Support Fire?
If you already have merciful end, take true shot
Deadly reversal is great with ME
manic vine
.
manic vine
Lol
stone rune
well support fire still good
latent moon
Yeah
manic vine
Chances are I'll find her again
latent moon
Support fire is fine but also criting on doom procs kinda good
stone rune
just get lvl98 pp
latent moon
True
latent moon
Well it's fine because you wouldn't have gotten the duo anyways lmao
Unless you saw athena
Then whoops
manic vine
Athena's there
manic vine
I'll just slap aphro on cast and call it quits.
latent moon
Lmao sure
manic vine
I grabbed Herme's legendary SPECIFICALLY FOR TRUE SHOT
I'm sad but what can I do about it
latent moon
Rip
manic vine
Well I'm bored so I'm gonna max out my heat and see how bad that is
rose trench
well support fire still good
support fire is always good
latent moon
It's aight
rose trench
the lower base damage your attacks deal the better it gets
especially on fists or rail because their base damage is really low
daring folio
after gifting Meg and getting her compqnion, what does gifting her do?
rose trench
after gifting Meg and getting her compqnion, what does gifting her do?
build up relationship also more dialogue
daring folio
so is there basically any point in gifting ambriosia to her?
rose trench
so is there basically any point in gifting ambriosia to her?
from a gameplay perspective no from a story perspective yes
rustic vale
Story
latent moon
especially on fists or rail because their base damage is really low
That's fair, wouldn't take it on rail unless it's luci tho
daring folio
okay ty
latent moon
Messing up fiery presence can suck
stone rune
it’s on hit for special and atk
latent moon
Only if they're full hp isn't it
latent moon
Well yeah
stone rune
oh can it go to others
stone rune
i thtought itd default to whoever you hit
latent moon
I'm pretty sure it can go to others
stone rune
prob can
stone rune
well i thought it would default to them and if they died then itd go somewhere else
rose trench
Messing up fiery presence can suck
i've never actually used fiery presence before
stone rune
it is good
latent moon
well i thought it would default to them and if they died then itd go somewhere e...
Yeah probably
Would mess up hestia a lot I would assume
stone rune
it’s seeking fire tier bonus
latent moon
i've never actually used fiery presence before
Fiery is used most of the time over shadow
stone rune
and opens something from arty doesnt it
latent moon
Fully loaded lmao
rose trench
Fiery is used most of the time over shadow
yeah I think I can see why now
stone rune
Fully loaded lmao
is this from the olympus extra mod or something
latent moon
Yes
rose trench
there are Hades mods?
latent moon
yeah I think I can see why now
Well it's mostly because trying to get backstabs is too much of a pain to fish for
And the first hit for many weapons matters a lot
rose trench
Well it's mostly because trying to get backstabs is too much of a pain to fish f...
also you can't really backstab on a status effect too right?
rose trench
yeah so it seems less useful than you'd think initially
rustic vale
also you can't really backstab on a status effect too right?
Only attacks, some specials (some specials can’t), and casts if you get parting shot
rose trench
ok I'll swap it out then
rustic vale
Fiery presence is better because killing regular enemies in less hits consistently >>> semiconsistent boss dps boost
jovial forum
i love going afk in zag's room while my profile is than themed
rose trench
Fiery presence is better because killing regular enemies in less hits consistent...
its a 75% damage boost right?
jovial forum
like yes im in his room 🫣
rustic vale
its a 75% damage boost right?
+75% additive damage yeah
On the first attack or special that hits them
rose trench
aren't all the damage boosts in hades additive?
rustic vale
All save for crits
and in the same vien, a base damage boost isn’t additive with all the regular damage boosts
rose trench
you can't really get any base damage boosts other than from hammers though right?
calm zenith
That's solid
jovial forum
aight
calm zenith
Styx you mean?
calm zenith
Have you gotten through it?
calm zenith
Yeah
jovial forum
damn butterflies got me BEAT
jovial forum
i know
just wanna complain
is the 20% darkness actually good
cause i havent noticed a difference
rustic vale
is the 20% darkness actually good
It’s… fine
jovial forum
😐
rustic vale
If you’re grinding specifically darkness/gemstones it’s better to just use the weapon you’re best with
jovial forum
wonderful! thank youu~
rustic vale
Unless you’re about the same amount of good with every weapon
jovial forum
im not
rustic vale
As the speed of your clear and ability to consistently kill bosses for darkness is going a lot further
jovial forum
:3 i love this game
rustic vale
then the +20% boost on a weapon you aren’t as good on
Also you can get way more of a boost from poseidon or chaos
rustic vale
yup
calm zenith
You can get a like 65% darkness boost and it applies to obols too
Which is really nice
rustic vale
You’ll become one
jovial forum
i love chaos's character.
calm zenith
They get better with better rarity and more niche builds
jovial forum
mm thanks
rustic vale
No
calm zenith
+1 cast stone is amazing
rustic vale
Chaos is always good
jovial forum
im gonna run <3 @ me if im needed
rustic vale
It doesn’t matter what build it is, you’d practically always want chaos when you see them
calm zenith
I'm just saying 90% special dmg is amazing
rustic vale
Especially because it’s a free room
jovial forum
It doesn’t matter what build it is, you’d practically always want chaos when you...
*them
jovial forum
its ok :)
rustic vale
but yes, chaos is always value, practically speaking there are a few subjective times where you wouldn’t take him over the room options
jovial forum
nothing is sadder than hearing than's keepsake lose power 😭
stone rune
chaos you might not take on like ME builds
rustic vale
yeah I mean the flat damage soup builds can’t use him as well but even then it’s a free room
jovial forum
i hope than likes fish :3
stone rune
even on beo if you get a c2 chaos with hammer start you still wont be cshotting thugs
rustic vale
So hammers, hermes, story rooms, maybe specific gods to get crucial boons like static discharge, midshops
rustic vale
Which build is it?
rustic vale
…
jovial forum
whatever im feelin
rustic vale
What do you have
stone rune
probably pom
jovial forum
okie
rustic vale
pom
jovial forum
pom pom!! yippe
stone rune
ares sucks most of the time when you don't have a lot of god keepsakes
because both of his builds pretty much entirely revolve around a duo
rustic vale
ares isn’t doing much outside of ME, hunting blades and if you natural him on hangover builds
rustic vale
zap dash
jovial forum
okie
rustic vale
because both of his builds pretty much entirely revolve around a duo
All 3
stone rune
with zap dash you should take another zeus if you see him again unless you want the other reward
because static discharge is big
what weapon are you using
jovial forum
static discharge, double strike, or thunder flourish
stone rune
static discharge
jovial forum
okk
jovial forum
what weapon are you using
aegis
rustic vale
Aphrodite ideally
stone rune
what's the other % god that isn't the othe rone
rustic vale
Athena and dem otherwise
jovial forum
i havent met dem yet
jovial forum
oki
stone rune
take that room and then take their attack
rustic vale
Artemis isn’t too great on things that aren’t nem or zag bow
jovial forum
thanks
rustic vale
Poseidon is synergy with the shields innate knockback
stone rune
and you can get pulv blow or dashing wallop
rustic vale
Generally you don’t take poseidon for his attack or special because of the knockback but since shield has innate knockback you could double down
stone rune
low % though
rustic vale
Wallslam damage is affected somewhat by velocity iirc
stone rune
if you have to it's fine but the others are preferable
jovial forum
this static discharge puttin in WORK
stone rune
jolted is cracked
rustic vale
static discharge is the best zeus support boon
stone rune
fine if you need it
rustic vale
eventually that becomes obols
jovial forum
okay
stone rune
coin is better once you stop needing it so direly
jovial forum
yeahh later on
rustic vale
hp is only really if you need it ig
jovial forum
around 60
jovial forum
50-70
stone rune
oh that's not bad
stone rune
do you have all your dds
jovial forum
but i cant tell if its rng or if it ACTUALLY lowers everytime u pick it
jovial forum
do you have all your dds
my what
stone rune
death defiances
rustic vale
but i cant tell if its rng or if it ACTUALLY lowers everytime u pick it
It doesn’t lower each time
jovial forum
It doesn’t lower each time
ok
jovial forum
death defiances
i odn know
stone rune
but i cant tell if its rng or if it ACTUALLY lowers everytime u pick it
rng spread
jovial forum
i gotta
stone rune
i odn know
they max at 3
rustic vale
I take it every so often now because I still got like 167k darkness to go for unseen one
jovial forum
😵💫
rustic vale
Your main objective rn is getting 3 death defiances then
stone rune
how much even is unseen one
royal widget
oh is that the final rank
rustic vale
how much even is unseen one
Like 12.5k by itself
stone rune
total
rustic vale
But in total getting there is like 365k?
stone rune
the mirror priority should be like
royal widget
thick skin is important
stone rune
2nd dash is the biggest one
jovial forum
ok im gonna finish tartarus
stone rune
like 2nd dash is huge
stone rune
yeah
jovial forum
literal insanity
jovial forum
😨 did sisyphus just flirt with me
stone rune
do you have the green mirror yet
jovial forum
i doNT KNOW
stone rune
like can you flip them
stone rune
cool
jovial forum
can we go back to this tho what the hell
jovial forum
😨 did sisyphus just flirt with me
bro just
" thats it 😏 let it all out "
?? EXCUSE ME?
go back to ur boulder you NASTY
why does sis act so nice
did hell humble him
stone rune
because he's nice
jovial forum
opens the story book
points
NO THE HELL HE IS NOT
stone rune
5th or 6th best keepsake
rustic vale
Sisyphus is based af
rustic vale
5th or 6th best keepsake
1st
rustic vale
HE LOCKED THANATOS IN A BOX??
Yeah
stone rune
HE LOCKED THANATOS IN A BOX??
skill issue
jovial forum
:(
rustic vale
Than came because it was sisyphus time to die, sisyphus kidnapped than instead, people stopped dying, big issue
rustic vale
he isn’t
woeful trout
Chad Sisyphus
jovial forum
im gonna scream
stone rune
Than came because it was sisyphus time to die, sisyphus kidnapped than instead, ...
no big deal
rustic vale
He just decided to kidnap death so he would die